The funny thing is people thinking Jimmy would be bitter about how well Wigs is doing now, when in reality he’s probably proud of him finally putting his gifts to good use
@emmanuelnatividad71302 жыл бұрын
Yeah jimmy see how gifted wiggins in defense but since jimmy not a championship caliber like draymond theyl feel salty about it. If towns and wiggs got the defense intensity with butler minnesota could be a dynasty.
@biorgoanylchem2 жыл бұрын
@@emmanuelnatividad7130 Jimmy ain’t feeling salty, timberwolves management sucks. Infact butler hates his brother Nick Wiggins not Andrew, how people got this confused is beyond me edit: he hated nick wiggins contract not nick himself lol
@emmanuelnatividad71302 жыл бұрын
@@biorgoanylchem i think beyond brother of wiggins , jimmy also has a history pushing the young guys to get better ex: herro and rduncan. In minnesota wiggins and towns is a oneway player they cant defend anyone .after butler what happen they didnt get back to playoffs not after they get bevs a defensive minded guard came along.
@greyklopstock71552 жыл бұрын
Heck, Jimmy was one of the guys along with thibs who vouched for wiggs when we traded for him. Jimmy told Draymond Wiggins was a dawg, and he was right. Now Wiggins is a champion. Love the work he put in, and so happy for his future with us
@blackwidowsm2 жыл бұрын
Well said all buckets is applying his gifts with effort. He be proud at this end result.
@madrain39412 жыл бұрын
Not "Potential" NBA Champ anymore, He is officially an NBA Champion!
@Sillysillylittleman2 жыл бұрын
Also played a massive part in that by stepping in for finals MVPs bad game. He can stare at that championship ring and say to himself "I did that!"
@sratnatozmrde2 жыл бұрын
@@Sillysillylittleman the best thing is that everyone on GSW team can say that. From Looney, GPII to Wiggins
@ryangonzalez51742 жыл бұрын
The amount of space Andrew gets with Steph and Klay on the floor has allowed him to really shine. You can see it on how he moves off the ball. Lets not take for granted the stability that the warriors have. The GM's to the owners to the coaching staff... the core is very much invested and all in on their players. Good for him!
@haliloudiaby49452 жыл бұрын
Lol. And defensively then ? Warriors won because of Wiggins. 2 weights 2 measures
@xposebandwagons77772 жыл бұрын
@@haliloudiaby4945 yea definitely he’s put on the work both sides stats say he’s few to get his own without curry gravity when curry not on the floor unlike the rest of team that struggles without curry gravity
@Moe71332 жыл бұрын
This is the same shit with KD! Steph just draws way too much defense on him after half court and gives KD room to be the ELITE offensive scorer he wanted to be. Look at where he is at now and he got his ass owned by Boston Celtic Defense. No one to draw that defense and he's shit now. LOL!
@haliloudiaby49452 жыл бұрын
xpose bandwagons 777 completely agreed with you bro
@haliloudiaby49452 жыл бұрын
Moe7133 I Hope you’re not talking about Wiggins though ? By the way KD was literally the best players when he was at warriors even though curry was drawn to much players . Facts
@davidcalo30842 жыл бұрын
Player Profile: "Jimmy loves him" GM of Warriors: "We'll take him"
@thorfinnthegoatmc2 жыл бұрын
the only metric that matters lol
@jon4good9292 жыл бұрын
Thibbs also said they'd love him
@GetintheCAH2 жыл бұрын
When this man's team used to get their asses whooped regularly, Wiggins didn't cry or bitch and moan, he remained consistent. When people called him a bust & made memes about him & KAT after Jimmy Buckets left, Wiggins remained professional & still consistent. Now that he's on a new team, he remains consistent & has only gotten better. Notice something? HE *REMAINED CONSISTENT* throughout it all. Ben Simmons should take notes
@t4d0W2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. He's consistently best in a third/fourth option role. Not the one the Wolves tried to build him up as and failed miserably because their font office is shit for recognizing talent and how to utilize it properly.
@GetintheCAH2 жыл бұрын
BludAardvark spot on
@WtJah2 жыл бұрын
You need him in that Kawhi Leonard role. Put a good team defense around him. And tell him to score when needed and defend at all times. Wolves has the complete opposite mindset. Bad team defense, he had to score all the time and defend when he felt like it
@alexsmith63222 жыл бұрын
If you say consistency and Wiggins in the same sentence, it’s pretty obvious you’ve never watched Andrew Wiggins in your life. I mean this dude wasn’t even on the floor closing games vs Memphis in the second round cuz he was playing that badly. Then was key in a matchup against the clerics. That’s up and down, that’s the opposite of consistency, and that is who Andrew Wiggins is and always has been
@teepan23882 жыл бұрын
He is far from consistent.... usually has a good start then fades for a month or two then have a mix of good and bad games to finish. Look what happened to him when Curry got injured. He disappeared. He is a great role player but fades when he has to be the main option. That's his problem and was called a bust bc he was the #1 pick.
@emsan36842 жыл бұрын
He's a number 1 pick for a reason. GS really found a gem in wiggins ☺️
@blissful_hate26572 жыл бұрын
Def shouldn't have gon 1st but a lottery pick fs
@KongBeats_2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the trade, D.Lo
@dionmiller76932 жыл бұрын
Kerr a good ass coach
@juanofturin97632 жыл бұрын
FACTS ! 2-way Wiggs !!!
@von47742 жыл бұрын
He’s a good role player. All star voting was a joke. Lol. Any time a #1 is the 3rd or 4th option on offense that is considered a major let down. He a great role player though. Can really help a team as the 3rd or 4th guy
@testostyrone332 жыл бұрын
He may not have completely played up to his potential, but by no stretch of the imagination should he have ever been considered a damn "bust". He was averaging 22ppg before he was traded to GS. And in several seasons prior he averaged over 20ppg; almost 25ppg in one of those seasons. He fell victim to a bad culture and BS media narratives. He was a damn good player before he got to GS, and it was on full display throughout the playoffs.
@windybreeze41432 жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying this for ages, the NBA media makes and breaks stars with weird narratives. Sure he wasn’t winning, but dude was still putting up great numbers comparing to some players who were making Allstar teams. They come up with a narrative and they run with it.
@gregorywesley74562 жыл бұрын
Very well said, Testes Tyrone and Windy Breeze, I agree 100% with you both!!!!!! As a Cavs fan, I was totally against the Love/Wiggins trade for many reasons. I thought sending him to Minnesota, without allowing him to play one game was an organizational blunder!!!!
@tribalypredisposed2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, nobody wants to blame the coach or organization, but Wiggins was not the reason the T-Wolves went from 11th in defense before he was drafted to 30th in defense his rookie year, that was the coach. Wiggins was not the reason the T-Wolves were 28th, 27th, and 27th the following years either, that was the coach. That those coaches made a man who is clearly at least a first team all NBA level defender look like he was a really bad defender should tell everyone just how incredibly bad they were at their jobs.
@voreandweirdanimations40752 жыл бұрын
@@gregorywesley7456 I agree, I thought Wiggins would have been good with Kyrie. I just didn't understand that trade, and figured it was some Lebron ish or something??
@BH-852 жыл бұрын
@@tribalypredisposed or could it be Wiggins didnt prioritize defense when he was there? Could it be going to the warriors and being around leaders like Green made him focus on defense. Dont matter who your coach is defense is about effort. A bad coach cant make you look bad on man to man defense. That's the player. People always looking to point fingers. How about the player take responsibility for his actions.
@theempruhstable36012 жыл бұрын
Never was a GSW fan at all... But I can’t deny a Ball Club that has ALWAYS put that Championship as the Main Focus and EVERY DAMN BODY FALLS IN TO THAT GOAL. I wanted GSW to win for Wiggins cause I seen him being bounced around and forced to be THE MAN when he probably wasn’t comfortable yet in such roll. He was VERY PIVOTAL in GSW wins. When the Core wasn’t scoring during these games that Boy stepped up and did his damn thing throughout. I’m Glad NO-ONE can say a damn thing about his game EVER AGAIN. He got what some greats never achieved and that’s a CHIP! 👍🏿💪🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 Salute Andrew Wiggins 🙌🏿💥
@jaymakeinit2 жыл бұрын
Very well said ! It was crazy watching him score on every player in the lineup including Bigs
@vastucson2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Now he IS part of that championship core. That’s why the Warriors are so good. They build champions.
@jaymakeinit2 жыл бұрын
@@vastucson they build them 💯 people not giving them enough credit when KD was there are looking dumb now. Nobody wins championships based on 1 player it’s a collective effort
@Newportnews982 жыл бұрын
@@jaymakeinit bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain
@drogonr93182 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@trentmas92102 жыл бұрын
So proud of Wiggins rn. 1st All-Star appearance now 2022 NBA Champion in same season!!
@panosts61782 жыл бұрын
I love player empowerment just for this reason. You may be one of the best prospects in the world, having all the tools to succeed but if your situation is bad you will never realise your true potential. As a Miami Heat fan I cannot tell you how many good players we've had that were considered busts by other teams or went undrafted. Teams like the Warriors, Spurs and Raptors are just like that as well. GP2 was passed around like a blunt and now he's got Steph Curry begging the front office to keep him, that's how good the dubs are . Wiggins is not Jordan but was treated as if he was by a failing franchise that desperately needed a superstar. The Warriors made him focus on developing his game and didn't put him under the pressure of being a number 1 option. He's now a great shooter, great defender and insane slasher. He even made the all star team, and IMO he could be a perennial all-star for the foreseeable future.
@xCrimtane2 жыл бұрын
So sad seeing great prospects get, no offence, be drafted by organizations that have no idea what they’re doing (magic)
@panosts61782 жыл бұрын
@@xCrimtane for real. Some other teams include the Pistons, the Knicks, the Jazz and of course the f*cking KINGS. Thank God they let my boy Tyrese go
@benji39002 жыл бұрын
@@panosts6178 imagine what Cousins could have been....
@michigansportsfan8652 жыл бұрын
As a Timberwolves fan he’s right the only good players we’ve developed the past 10 years are KAT AND Anthony Edwards I’m glad he’s doing good in golden state I met him in 2019 at a game real humble dude I hope he gets a ring
@yahiaali40592 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don’t even think kat has reached his potential if he was drafted by another team he would be a top 5 player in the league honestly edwards is still early in his career give him like 5 years till you see how he is
@nikosuarilla55622 жыл бұрын
@@yahiaali4059 Kat coming out of the bench if he's in a good team
@yahiaali40592 жыл бұрын
@@nikosuarilla5562 you don’t think kat is all star level player?
@michigansportsfan8652 жыл бұрын
@@yahiaali4059 true I think KAT would get more regonition if he played for another team good point
@dubbyu42862 жыл бұрын
I doubt the Timberwolves developed KAT and ANT
@patrickvalimento97442 жыл бұрын
That's the reason I feel bad for some great players coming out of college. They're still kids, so they still need someone who can teach them, unlucky for some of them, they can't find someone like that on the team who drafted them, and wiggins is a good example of that . I mean there are players who can figure it out by themselves only, but not all of them can do that
@juliansearcie17582 жыл бұрын
that my man is an excellent point .
@benji39002 жыл бұрын
Imagine DeMarcus Cousins if he'd been drafted by a competent team and hadn't gotten hurt..... Or any young guy the Kings have drafted recently.
@meatballsub75362 жыл бұрын
Boo Hoo, cry me a river 😭, these “kids” playing a kids game for Christ sake making millions of dollars a year
@urbaindelva78692 жыл бұрын
I knew that Wiggins would be the best version of himself as a Warrior soon as that trade went down. Can't say enough about how amazing he's been for them.
@erwinhouser77042 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kevin Durant. Good luck winning a Championship.
@crazyvoice122 жыл бұрын
I mean just look at Javale Mcgee. His career completely changed after going to the warriors
@ThePoushal2 жыл бұрын
2 rings right?
@smapili2 жыл бұрын
3 rings lol
@notkray84682 жыл бұрын
You're right he was a running joke to a good ass center for the GSW
@HooodClassicsTV2 жыл бұрын
In his draft class of players like Lavine, Jokic, Embiid, Julius Randle, Smart, Dinwiddie and others Andrew Wiggins leads them all in total points. He isn’t the “best” player of all of them but he is definitely NOT a “bust”.
@litradity74512 жыл бұрын
see wiggins geniue smile is so heartwarming
@baterd882 жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying this for years. I remember asking a high school friend of mine what he thought of Wiggins in 2017 (I went to HS in MN). He said “get rid of that bum” and I’m like “No get rid of your bum ass team” all they do is chew up young prospects. What a TRASH organization! Good luck ARod.
@TheKidler772 жыл бұрын
I was a fan of him when he started out in Minnesota. I'm really happy for him now that he is making strides for all the world to see. Let this be a lesson to the TWolves organization and hope that they don't squander KAT and Edwards
@Code08662 жыл бұрын
they’ve already squandered KAT i feel like
@beef25032 жыл бұрын
they wasted KATs full potential! all of these comments are timberwolves fans trying to cope that the organization sucks!
@kelvinmorris19912 жыл бұрын
I’ve been a fan since he was at Kansas
@Cooe.2 жыл бұрын
... They will/already are. You're in for a world of hurt if you expect the dogshit Wolves organization to change ANYTIME soon. You need to get over your severe Stockholm Syndrome. Find a team to root for whose foundational organization isn't a complete trainwreck.
@basedoz57452 жыл бұрын
It’s funny they could develop LaVine, the rawest player in Andrew Wiggins own draft class, they could develop 2 other number 1 picks, they let him play with KG, they let him play with Jimmy Butler. But somehow it’s the Wolves fault that he tries harder now? Give me a break. Wiggins didn’t care playing for a small market team simple as that.
@judybash93932 жыл бұрын
We just won the damn league title with immense contribution from his side... 😜
@nickolitto40212 жыл бұрын
Love seeing wiggins turn into a star in golden state
@gershomtan58792 жыл бұрын
People were calling him maple Jordan, in reality he's Scottie Pippen reincarnated.
@Nicholson123452 жыл бұрын
Scottie can't score
@blackspine3432 жыл бұрын
LOL he is neither. Pathetic.
@sabrifilms1982 жыл бұрын
Scottie isn’t dead 💀
@saffachurchie64022 жыл бұрын
@@Nicholson12345 dont talk about basketball again.
@saffachurchie64022 жыл бұрын
@@sabrifilms198 this is funny af lol
@unbiasOrbit2 жыл бұрын
Andrew Wiggins is an NBA Champion!
@pocholotorres54722 жыл бұрын
As a Twolves fan since the early 2000s, tell me something that I don't know haha! I completely agree. The mere act of KG's refusal to have his jersey retired serves as a "stamp of approval" that the organization doesn't deserve to be celebrated and is to blame for all its shortcomings: 1. They had KG for all of his prime years and only reached the WCF once in 03-04. Tbf tho, the WC was kinda stacked, w/c is also proof of KG's greatness but he still needed help in Spree and Sam. Right after he left, he won a chip. 2. They kad KLove and Rubio, both of championship pedigree, but have no winning season to show for during their time together in Minnesota. 3. They had Wiggins and KAT, plus LaVine, Jimmy Butler, and Drose, but only made the playoffs once as an 8th seed. 4. And just recently, KAT, DLo, and Ant choking in the playoffs against the Grizzlies, again as an 8th seed. If anything, there is hope for the current roster. But until Glen Taylor is completely out of the picture, I have no expectations and am always ready for disappointment haha!
@biorgoanylchem2 жыл бұрын
By now Kat should be able to lead his team to more than first round, management is in a pitiful state.
@i3_132 жыл бұрын
I think they will improve this coming season.
@kerito19932 жыл бұрын
Don't forget... they passed up on Steph during 2009 draft not just once, but twice.
@beef25032 жыл бұрын
@@kerito1993 and even if they selected him, they would still find a way to ruin him! like KAT, Anthony Edwards, Kevin Love, Andrew Wiggins and so on!
@biorgoanylchem2 жыл бұрын
@@beef2503 You from future? Wtf hap to Edwards? Did he go win a ring somewhere else? Some of us have some hope for wolves with Aed man 😳
@fitgamerdaddy74072 жыл бұрын
When we traded for Wiggins and sent off dlo. I knew right there and then. Once healthy. 🏆!
im gonna put Houston to Bad-Terrible for spoiling James Harden
@nicolasconforti26042 жыл бұрын
@@archiemiras3073 2 rings in the '90s, quite consistently a decent to good franchise.
@jimmybones21712 жыл бұрын
How is raptors a great organization?
@sanjinvojnovic54262 жыл бұрын
Hornets terrible
@ceufrscio7072 жыл бұрын
Thank you Wiggins, Warriors! 💙💛
@mydogspet2 жыл бұрын
I think Wigs can become the take over superstar now that he's growing in confidence. I see game 5 Wigs becoming the new normal, God willing, and he stays healthy. This year he learned from the best offensive and defensive players in the world. Next year he can be scary good.
@Avermra2 жыл бұрын
He can, but i dont think he cares about that that much he is now the #2 guy on warriors but the big three will always soak up the spotlight for him, which i think work ib his favor
@Giorgos-ee5kn2 жыл бұрын
Draymond likes him very much because if GSW wins the chip, then will get proved that they didnt need KD or sth bec Wiggins filled the gap in the roster in post KD era
@yahiaali40592 жыл бұрын
Draymond In this finals has been pretty average sometimes a liability he’s lucky Wiggins stepping up on both sides of the ball the way he is
@tridra57142 жыл бұрын
They did need KD back then if they didn't find him as valuable as he was they wouldn't have signed him but they sign him. If you mean as though they still had a chance to win a chip without kd then in that case I personally feel as though they wouldn't be able to beat LeBron but that is why we hated kd and the warriors back then because they went 73-9 and still opted to sign a top 3 guy in the league
@yahiaali40592 жыл бұрын
@@tridra5714 there is still no guarantees lebron could match what he did in 2016 again even without kd cuz draymond did get suspended that’s when the series went left for them but there in the finals again without him so do they really need kd or does kd need them?
@tridra57142 жыл бұрын
@@yahiaali4059 first they don't NEED KD but having him would be a plus. And I agree there is no guarantee that Bron would win but I feel as though Kyrie would get better as he did and the warriors would not be able to replicate the 70 win season as the longer the same core stays competitive the more teams build their rosters to beat those teams and the better they are at game planning against those teams. GSW could win but I'm not sure whether they will. GSW was great but not unbeatable but after they got KD I'm not sure there is a team in history that could beat that team
@whatismyname2182 жыл бұрын
They needed KD to defeat Bron anyone who argues against that doesnt know squat ab the NBA cuz we all know they dont need KD against an inexperienced Boston squad
@kckatie2 жыл бұрын
If you haven't figured it out by now - NO - it is not the players. Or at least very rarely. Some organizations are just black holes for talent.
@brucewilliams65262 жыл бұрын
Yes, you're right. Just look at the New York Knicks! But I'm still a fan. The organization is crap though!
@benji39002 жыл бұрын
It's 50/50. In a crap organization there's no way a player is going to be able straighten things out on his own. However, there are top tier talents that throw it all away, even in the best organizations.
@cbrown9402 жыл бұрын
Wiggins did everything Steph didn't, and Steph was dominant in what he does.
@jiweixia78442 жыл бұрын
Champion pieces assembled
@9InchHandle2 жыл бұрын
Draymond is semi right. Wiggins was talented but he wasn't #1 or #2. He works in GSW because he was #3/#4. Less pressure for him and he can play his way.
@fridaynightplans_2 жыл бұрын
True. It's how Curry and Klay suck the defense for him. I don't think he can handle the pressure when he is the first option and the two is not around.
@Kharl192 жыл бұрын
he's no.2 now lol. Former and current NBA players had already claimed
@KiyanPocket2 жыл бұрын
@@Kharl19 To me, Poole looks more like the number 2 option for the Warriors, I'd say Klay or Wiggins would be 3rd option.
@Kharl192 жыл бұрын
@@KiyanPocket 😂😂😂
@KiyanPocket2 жыл бұрын
@@Kharl19 😂😂😂 ... what are we laughing at?
@whatyousaywhatihear98582 жыл бұрын
Wiggins can ball. Last year he showed what he could be. This year in the playoffs he put everyone on notice.
@MajinErick2 жыл бұрын
I remember Wiggins as a Jayhawk making 17 ppg. He's very consistent, but being on a team of shooters, he's able to drive more like he was in college.
@thomasfriesejr.91982 жыл бұрын
As a Wolves fan, I can confirm Draymond is correct. They have always been dysfunctional. The current squad seems to be on the right track, but we're all just waiting for it to fall apart again like it always does. Ant might be the guy who finally changes things, though. He's so much fun to root for, and Bev is teaching him to be pro.
@loos152 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on that. It's like anytime something goes well with our MN team, something even more terrible is around the corner. Like the KG days when we lost 4 first round picks.
@kouleeofficial2 жыл бұрын
Wiggins came into the Wolves being the first option and the number 1 guy expected to lead the wolves. He didn’t deliver in that standard, but going to GSW, he wasn’t expected to lead the team, he was more of a role player. He had Steph, Klay, and Green who were leading the team and he just had to play his part, and he played it exceptionally, when Steph was hurt that season, Wiggins couldn’t deliver also but no one was really upset because his role going to the warriors was never to be the number one option to lead the warriors to the championship.
@kennethukoh5192 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Your assessment is not coming from hate. It's just facts. It's not about the Wolves not developing him, he just isn't a #1. He can focus on defense and score when the opportunity presents itself playing with the GSW. Leading a pack and being part of a pack is 2 different things.
@ammarnapata21932 жыл бұрын
HE'S AN NBA CHAMPION NOW!! LMAO
@elliotgilmore51372 жыл бұрын
I can say he is a key reason in our championship if you watched the games. I agree with Draymond fully and even thought before Wiggins was traded to GSW that he was good
@mc10132 жыл бұрын
Solid content again 😎🏀 Wiggins showing people he can still ball… gotta show some Canadian Ballers some love
@juanio70362 жыл бұрын
I’m super happy for Wiggins, the dude won himself a chip and went from so called bust, I never though that, to a championship
@garethbaker73462 жыл бұрын
Minnesota Timberwolves never knew what to do with Wiggins, it was obvious Andrew couldn't be bothered at the Wolves. He couldn't even bring himself to play defence and now he is one of the best defenders in the league.
@Coinpease2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is the point as a wolves fan that irks me. People can blame the front office all they want but if a player doesn't give a fuck about playing for you there's literally nothing you can do.
@garethbaker73462 жыл бұрын
@@Coinpease I think there is a lot about these teams we don't see as outsiders, if you take Minnesota and Sacramento they both have had some really good players come and go but never do well and it always seems to end in disfunction. Hopefully for you as a Wolves fan it is starting to turn around a bit with Edwards and Towns. No one can say they didn't play hard this season giving Ja and the Grizzlies such a close series.
@jon4good9292 жыл бұрын
Wiggins played more defense than anyone on the Wolves. It's hard to stay motivated without help on that end. Wolves were the only team to beat them at least once every season during their previous peak years. You know damn well they knew what Wiggins could do and what he was capable of.
@garethbaker73462 жыл бұрын
@@jon4good929 It's a great shame they couldn't motivate players because Wiggins defence mixed with LaVine scoring would have been a good combination. But I think we can all agree Wiggins is better off now.
@meatballsub75362 жыл бұрын
Wiggins was a complete bust, what sucks is that if he tried like most of his Team mates did, there was a good chance of him just skinning his hype.
@Zutakameku12 жыл бұрын
I think you could say ..Steve Kerr doesn’t just yell at his players he teaches how to get rid of bad habits
@lazyymaster03902 жыл бұрын
look at wiggins, man.. so inspirational
@kennethukoh5192 жыл бұрын
What's so inspirational? Honest question. The dude was a #1 overall pick. He always had the tool to be a really good 2 way player. He is a quiet kid and the expectations of being the #1 was to high for him. He finally joined a team where he can just focus on basketball. Win or lose, no one would blame him. Some people excel in just being part of the pack, than being the pack leader. This version on Wiggins isn't surprising. He is playing with more confidence since he isn't playing with pressure. Steph is the offensive anchor and Green is the defensive anchor, iggy provides vet leadership. Wiggins brought the same skills he has always had to a team that needed it, he just isn't pressure into being a great player as the Wolves wanted him to be.
@at9202 жыл бұрын
Facts! The man has a championship now! He longs and will achieve greatness
@joseyeastwood2 жыл бұрын
I am so happy for Andrew i have been following him since his high school career in happy that the world finally could see his redemption 🏀
@Garanon52 жыл бұрын
Hopefully this can help start changes in how some organizations approach developing new players. I can't help but wonder how many Andrew Wiggins' are out there who were written off early in their career when they actually had championship potential with the right environment and training.
@tribalypredisposed2 жыл бұрын
Not that Wiggins has not improved since his rookie year, but it was mostly just putting him in a sound defensive and offensive scheme that made the difference, the Warriors did not "develop" Wiggins. Coaches and organizations that suck and cannot understand how to use players have no idea how to develop new players, and there are many out there. Draymond without Kerr would probably have been a role player on a team that never won a championship and out of the league years ago. Draymond was coming off the bench for Mark Jackson, and the idea of playing him at the five would have never occurred to any coach other than Kerr in a million years. Kerr did not "develop" Draymond, he just knew what he was and how he could be used well. There are many players like Poole who need to be developed, there are others who just need someone who understands their gifts and what they can bring to the court.
@voreandweirdanimations40752 жыл бұрын
@@tribalypredisposed interesting point.
@vivienthompson17022 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@silvercat64252 жыл бұрын
Wiggins Deserve everything, he earned it
@blackspine3432 жыл бұрын
he didn't, this team would be a championship team without him.
@Darknight1024 Жыл бұрын
@@blackspine343 stop being a hater
@aznpanda510x2 жыл бұрын
The wolves should also thank us for Edwards. He tried out for the warrior before getting drafted and they say “ that all you got?” Which force him to try more and get into full gear.
@meatballsub75362 жыл бұрын
“They” It was literally just Steve Kerr, not the organization.
@oskaradamczuk5252 жыл бұрын
And now Wiggs is NBA champ 💪🏆
@julz192 жыл бұрын
he's doing good because he doesn't have the pressure to be "the guy" on a team anymore.. well he is a number 1 pick, so that's why he was in that position.
@Nandoswitharando2 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but the culture is different, the development of players is different, GSW is ten times the organization Minnesota is and that’s just the truth. It seems minuscule but just look at the amount of smiling you’ve seen from Wiggins these last couple of years, I don’t ever remember him smiling that much in Minnesota
@kennethukoh5192 жыл бұрын
@@Nandoswitharando it's easy to smile when you can just focus on basketball. Wiggs isn't the 1st or 2nd option on that team, he is playing free for the 1st time. The pressure of being the #1 overall pick is not hunting him anymore. He wasn't ready to be a pack leader, so he is comfortable just being part of a pack.
@meatballsub75362 жыл бұрын
@@kennethukoh519 aw yes, the 6 year pressure of him getting no media attention in a poverty franchise, getting payed millions of dollars playing a kids game. The man just didn’t give a shit, never tried. People always forget how he and Towns got completely exposed by butler. Man doesn’t deserve a ring, he got put in an all star team with an all star coach. And he 100% didn’t deserve that all star award, he only won it because of the media attention and people love a good comeback story. Y’all are just dick riding his feelings, the man was a bust.
@rhen46102 жыл бұрын
and now he is a champion!
@genaldgalicia58342 жыл бұрын
let's see with james wiseman if it's really the organization.
@Nowseemypoint2 жыл бұрын
And now he's an NBA champion🏆
@kylorenjr12362 жыл бұрын
GSW; Raptors; Spurs; Mavericks and Celtics are probably the most stable organization in the NBA and you can clearly see it on how well they develop their players and how well the team performs during regular and post season (with the exceptions of injuries, which is out of their control).
@justgary24712 жыл бұрын
Facts. Draymond spitting facts.
@honoriomercado87622 жыл бұрын
A great fit indeed for GSW. The Splash Brothers and even if Draymond needs rest, Wigs can play big or he could even be a 2nd duo of another Splash Brothers with Poole. Looks like the Warriors have "another generation" of players who can add championships again for the Bay Area
@beeaveragegaming34822 жыл бұрын
Timberwolves have been the same since day one, build around a big man and hope for the best. KAT is the problem and it's not intentional, you don't have to improve when nobody blames you.
@vastucson2 жыл бұрын
Well done! The Warriors brought out the champion in him. But there was never any doubt about his talent and athleticism. It’s not just about stability. The Warriors have developed a system that cultivates teamwork, selflessness, and also the joy of basketball excellence. BTW : it’s exacerbated, not exasperated.
@blrrich10512 жыл бұрын
It's just like in football, where 1st round picks are expected to do too much, when before, it was okay for someone to sit behind Montana, Farve, Alex Smith, ect.
@jikk41462 жыл бұрын
Right. The warriors organization is just so good in developing players and fitting them into their system. I bet if some young guys like Brandon Ingram come to the warriors, he'll be far more better too especially on defense.
@bassassinmaster2 жыл бұрын
I'm from MN. I can clearly say, we've had a management problem with the wolves for years. We had so much talent but some how our team is the worst every year. Bad coaching, bad scouts, bad game plans.
@lululeaes10462 жыл бұрын
Worth the trade. Thank you Wigging..
@acezspaded66572 жыл бұрын
I wonder if anyone from Minnesota reached out and congratulated him
@jullianmolina88422 жыл бұрын
If Wiggins was drafted my the warriors he’d already be an allstar years ago
@brianbenoit68832 жыл бұрын
Definitely something to be said for organizations and coaching. Look at Kobe with Phil Jackson when he was in GOAT contention and Kobe without Phil Jackson, when his attitude and lack of teamsmanship knocked him out of the top 50. Kerr brought out the best in this team just like Jackson brought out the best in Kerr's bulls.
@royfablooo28102 жыл бұрын
Wigs is the best example of just give him a good Leader and he'll be good. Add Steve Kerr, a certified HOF Coach.
@minyoung8232 жыл бұрын
Damn, so many good players came from Minn that they failed to keep - Butler, Wiggs, Zach Lavine
@danilthorstensson89022 жыл бұрын
Butler came from the Bulls
@jacobrocks72 жыл бұрын
Hope he extends with GS..great fit
@bolovrbackupchannel2 жыл бұрын
draymond Green is absolutely correct!
@MrDoit1872 жыл бұрын
always baffled me, how people always blame the players. when there are so many factors for young men and women that play a role in their devolpment in all aspects of life.
@laniedmd11262 жыл бұрын
True..but basically people can only see the players so all the blame's on them
@selanryn58492 жыл бұрын
This just makes me wonder how good KAT could potentially be with a different team.
@canadianchungus7012 жыл бұрын
I am in no mood to write a dissertation to sum up Timberwolves mistakes going back to early 2000s, but I can give you short answer - I was young, I am gonna get older but one thing that will stay constant is Timberwolves sucking season in season out
@bunsdarius92232 жыл бұрын
Garnett and Love left the Wolves and they each got a ring. And now Wiggins might get one too lol.
@canadianchungus7012 жыл бұрын
@@bunsdarius9223 Wiggins did already😊
@bunsdarius92232 жыл бұрын
@@canadianchungus701 bruh IKR. I was typing that during the 4th quarter but I didn't really want to count out the Celtics yet lol
@joenelsaracho48362 жыл бұрын
Happy for wiggins hes a champ Traded in his rookie year when lebron dont want a part of him
@DementedApe2 жыл бұрын
Wiggins locked Tatum up, I remember him air balling 3 times in one of the finals games which I never thought I would see out of Tatum
@youngliltay2 жыл бұрын
With all that being said Wiggins a perfect role player
@Dear_90002 жыл бұрын
I think Wiggs just needed a team and teammates who believes in him and challenges him to be better. Wiggs always said the team challenged him to be a better defender & rebounder because they believe that he can do it. And voila! He really did it and the rewards came pouring in. All star nod, legit 2-way player, second best player in a championship team, and a champion. damn...
@ger.m.a.ngiant16442 жыл бұрын
if jimmy was taking shots at anyone at the wolves, it would be KAT. The Timberwolves were at fault for trying to turn him into this high usage type player with the ball in his hands when he was not that guy.
@t4d0W2 жыл бұрын
Faxx. I think it showed up in this playoffs too. KAT legit had the match up vs the lack of size Grizz had up front and he should have been feasting with attacks to the basket and FTAs. Only had one big game where he got his and every other game he was just chucking for 3FG%. Its cute but it doesn't win playoff series especially vs a scrappy Grizz team that had one guy who wasn't afraid to attack the basket to help close out games as the series went on.
@easyread-real2 жыл бұрын
Big Kudos to GSW. They know how to run an organization and take care of their players. I wish my Trail Blazers were even close to that.
@infiniteuniverse95282 жыл бұрын
Wiggins, Jimmy Butler, Kevin Garnett and Kevin Love could never win until they escaped from Minnesota. The franchise where careers go to die.
@arzelzon11372 жыл бұрын
nice content, next why DLO and Oubre dont work. 🤷, they comment about GS that GS playing style is too tiring, always want to set screens, guess what lazy player dont belong to GS
@jirengrey41402 жыл бұрын
DLo didn't work cos Curry played like 5 games that season, they might make it work but I think he was a just substitute for Klay Thompson for that year and just a trade piece later on.
@shyadeny2 жыл бұрын
I think people often easily forget that these are literally just kids coming into the league. I don't think anyone truly even begins their journey into what most would consider "maturity," until their mid-late twenties. Until then, it's imperative to have the right leadership and mentorship around you to guide and steer you in the right way, as those make a profound impact on how one shapes out to be later on. We wouldn't expect the 18, 19, 20 year-old kid working at McDonald's, Macy's or wherever to think and behave on the same level that we would. It would only be fair for us as fans to remind ourselves that when it comes to these kids becoming pro-athletes that they're not all that different from them.
@t4d0W2 жыл бұрын
I think people forget how much an organization/fit matters as well for these guys. Some of these talents aren't just easily fit-in solutions and they provide everything else. Look at Iguodala who in the last decade was one of the Warriors most important pieces in their championship run. Former one time all-star with the Sixers who got about 20ppg and he's always been great on defense. But not until his Nuggets stint did people realize he's a playmaking option. And not until Kerr took the Warriors job did he slot into his best role yet coming off the bench in a Ginobilli like role. Where his defense and playmaking option played him in one of the best small lineups in recent years because of his versatility. Also bad teams unless they have a legit goal will stay being feeder systems that feed these talents to teams with better structure where they can find their success with them.
@xXxGlitterGirlxXx2 жыл бұрын
Big game Wiggins!
@EZALAS2 жыл бұрын
Geez...talk, talk talk. Glen Taylor was the owner of the Timberwolves in 2009 when his "braintrust" selected Ricky Rubio and Jonny Flynn ahead of Steph Curry. Double-insanity. Glen Taylor was still the owenr of Minnesota in 2014 when his GM was Rick Adelman. In 1996, Adelman was the coach of the Golden State Warriors. That year he and GM Dave Twardzik selected Todd Fuller (who?) ahead of Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash, Peja Stojakovic, and Jermaine O'Neal in the draft. Insanity. Clearly the Timberwolves had no fricking idea what they were doing. Wiggens is blessed to have landed wth the Warriors.
@stephenknutson62562 жыл бұрын
It's all about coaching and flexibility. Can you imagine the wolves with LaVine, Wiggins, Towns and Rubio. They were young, inexperienced. They were learning how to win, but they were not quiet there yet. But the wolves had a coach who wanted to win now. Who wasn't flexible enough to help each of them to develope their game further. If they had good coaching and had been kept together. They would be contending for the title every year. Wiggins play regressed after Rubio was traded, and it rather amazes me, just how detrimental to Wiggins play, that trade was.
@militiamancampbell2 жыл бұрын
Part of the issue is that these young guys get drafted to rubbish teams, teams who are rubbish because of bad structures with their sole mission in the draft to try and get a guy like Shaq who will turn your team from rubbish to gold, almost overnight. The reality is that players like that are generational and the chances of getting one of those type of players is remote, Wiggins was clearly never that guy but he excels at being the 3rd guy on a team with a good culture and systems. On that note I shed a silent tear for that poor kid who got drafted by the Kings yesterday
@waiyee44102 жыл бұрын
Key to any player’s success is - a group of players who play to make teammates better! Look around in NBA, is there another team that has that kind of players? For a team to work together for ONE GOAL, everyone in the team from top management to the person cleaning the floor has to be respectful to others. Warriors has that kind of organization. Yes, every team wants to win but to respect each other? Not many team has that chemistry and willingness to do that. That’s the difference between the Warriors and the rest of NBA. Trading Ingram with Wiggins was a clear example of it. Ingram does not have the same kind of personality as Wiggins. Warriors will have a couple more championships with the splash brothers and Poole party, of course Wiggs!
@cancel.lgbtq.68922 жыл бұрын
Both coaches & players need each other in order to succeed.
@unsocial252 жыл бұрын
I said all these this about the team that ACTUALLY drafted him which was LEBRONs CAVS…… He traded him without even meeting enough…… Wiggins was a animal in HIGH SCHOOL……
@MrOctober44 Жыл бұрын
Minnesota should take some blame but you have to put this in perspective. He was supposed to be the guy, like Steph, a franchise player, scoring star. He's done none of those things. He's at best the fourth best player on the Warriors. He's definitely gotten better defensively. The man is 28 and has made one all star appearances. Yes, he's improved but still hasn't lived up to his potential or draft status
@thedolphe2 жыл бұрын
Man like him or not Draymond Green is a basketball savant. He is not as skilled as a lot of the players in the league but man this dude has a brilliant basketball mind. I like how he calls bullshit on the old heads and I am an old head.
@ericfranklin18022 жыл бұрын
It’s a bit of both, sure the Timberwolves organization is pretty garbage at player development, though it’s not like Wiggins truly pushed his game further than he should have just like put mentioned in the video. A better organization doesn’t necessarily mean that a player will never be the problem but it can curb some of the worst habits of a player who is good and in need of a little more to move up to great.
@t4d0W2 жыл бұрын
If anything blame the Wolves for building him up as a foundation talent when he's not that. He's not a consistent primary option which he was tasked to be with the Wolves (yet people can only say about his 'flashes' of games that he has where he legit is Maple Leaf Jordan). Hell even with the Butler era he was taking more touches than Jimmy and KAT who were fine for the secondary roles they excel at. Wolves org aren't great at talent evaluation/acquisition so they lit it be until they could finally move on from Wiggins (with a caveat of course). Wiggins with the Warriors shows that he is playing at his best with minimal expectations out of him behind legit studs in a top 10 player in Steph, a top 30 player in Klay (when healthy) and a coach/defensive scheme that is proven. So yes a better org solves the identity crisis in terms of where the player can fit with the current structure.
@doge15902 жыл бұрын
Now imagine amount of pressure and huge expectation 18yo lebron have on his shoulder.
@norestwicked61252 жыл бұрын
Was he pressured to get his "The Chosen One" tattoo?
@saulshine19692 жыл бұрын
There's a pattern and a cautionary tale that goes along with organizations like Minnesota, Sacramento, Orlando and Detroit who are constantly in the top 5 lottery picks every year. It's not the players being picked it's the organizations disfunction that has them consistently at the bottom...
@atomant8302 жыл бұрын
It takes an organization to win an NBA championship which is why the GOAT player should not be considered on championships alone. The judging of players legacies based on championships has led to players to taking control of matters by moving via demanding trades or testing free agency when contract term ends. Wiggins was traded to an organization that knows how to get the job done. I'm happy for him. Timberwolves at one time had 3 number 1 draft picks and Butler. I remember thinking they were about 3 years away from being contenders. The organization somehow messed it up.
@fturla2 жыл бұрын
Unstable organizations ruin the progress of NBA players. The group I see as ineffective at the moment are the Kings, Magic, 76ers, Knicks, and the Cavaliers. This does not mean those teams are good or bad. I mean they are lousy at training, providing learning on court experience, and maintaining player health. They are not taking those aspects of player development as seriously as other teams or if you want to be more specific, they do not have as much competence in that area
@undergrounddojokeyboardcag7012 жыл бұрын
Very few of us pointed out that the TWolves are one of the worst ran franchises in the NBA and have a terrible development team and that this was the problem with Wiggins development, or lack of. We caught shit nonstop from basically everyone, including youtubers for saying this. And my biggest issue here was never that random people on youtube wanted to argue this (although most simply repeated youtubers) it was that youtubers with tens of thousands to millions of subscribers, who took the role of basketball expert to some degree (some more than others) some how, did not understand the importance of having a consistent coaching staff was for a players development, or quality of training staff, or a FO who knew they should surround young players with vets and encourage off court relationships, etc.
@lancevandeuer2 жыл бұрын
The environment in gws is pretty cool ...they're like real bros
@charliebrown49332 жыл бұрын
i have a feeling this summer wiggs gonna have a elite mid range shot
@LonghornsLegend2 жыл бұрын
But this has always been the case. #1 picks are all expected to be saviors and dominant scorers on terrible teams with no help and it usually isn't fair. But that said, sometimes a player just isn't good. We can't blame Minnesota for Wiseman if he doesn't pan out because he's on that same good organization.
@gordonchristophertubo31642 жыл бұрын
True. This vid feels like it ignores the existence og Wiseman
@juliansearcie17582 жыл бұрын
wiseman is injured .
@jon4good9292 жыл бұрын
Wiseman had very promising stretches considering highschool and 4 college games coming in. Anyone thinking he hasn't developed is ignoring he has been injured for roughly a year.
@LonghornsLegend2 жыл бұрын
@@jon4good929 who said he wasn't? But injuries are part of what makes top picks bust, and there's only so long LaMelo can keep making all stars and Wiseman can keep missing games before people admit it. All I said was IF he doesn't pan out, it proves sometimes it can be the player when and if they don't pan out. Because if Wiseman played for the Magic, and his career had gone exactly the same to this point, what do you think most people would be calling him?
@shandaman72432 жыл бұрын
They were trying to use the same narrative with Lonzo Ball the last few years before he got to Chicago. He's a great young player who on the right team with the right people and coaches around him can flourish but you were hearing "bust" talk. Ridiculous
@ahhchoo84882 жыл бұрын
0:06 It's fact but Minnesota has helped them so much, wiser to just keep it quiet. Minnesota passed on Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. Gave them Andrew Wiggins and Jonathan Kuminga.