Draymond Is Right About Wiggins

[@BigPurp9]

The funny thing is people thinking Jimmy would be bitter about how well Wigs is doing now, when in reality he’s probably proud of him finally putting his gifts to good use

[@emmanuelnatividad7130]

Yeah jimmy see how gifted wiggins in defense but since jimmy not a championship caliber like draymond theyl feel salty about it. If towns and wiggs got the defense intensity with butler minnesota could be a dynasty.

[@biorgoanylchem]

@@emmanuelnatividad7130 Jimmy ain’t feeling salty, timberwolves management sucks. Infact butler hates his brother Nick Wiggins not Andrew, how people got this confused is beyond me edit: he hated nick wiggins contract not nick himself lol

[@emmanuelnatividad7130]

@@biorgoanylchem i think beyond brother of wiggins , jimmy also has a history pushing the young guys to get better ex: herro and rduncan. In minnesota wiggins and towns is a oneway player they cant defend anyone .after butler what happen they didnt get back to playoffs not after they get bevs a defensive minded guard came along.

[@greyklopstock7155]

Heck, Jimmy was one of the guys along with thibs who vouched for wiggs when we traded for him. Jimmy told Draymond Wiggins was a dawg, and he was right. Now Wiggins is a champion. Love the work he put in, and so happy for his future with us

[@blackwidowsm]

Well said all buckets is applying his gifts with effort. He be proud at this end result.

[@madrain3941]

Not "Potential" NBA Champ anymore, He is officially an NBA Champion!

[@Sillysillylittleman]

Also played a massive part in that by stepping in for finals MVPs bad game. He can stare at that championship ring and say to himself "I did that!"

[@sratnatozmrde]

@@Sillysillylittleman the best thing is that everyone on GSW team can say that. From Looney, GPII to Wiggins

[@ryangonzalez5174]

The amount of space Andrew gets with Steph and Klay on the floor has allowed him to really shine. You can see it on how he moves off the ball. Lets not take for granted the stability that the warriors have. The GM's to the owners to the coaching staff... the core is very much invested and all in on their players. Good for him!

[@haliloudiaby4945]

Lol. And defensively then ? Warriors won because of Wiggins. 2 weights 2 measures

[@xposebandwagons7777]

@@haliloudiaby4945 yea definitely he’s put on the work both sides stats say he’s few to get his own without curry gravity when curry not on the floor unlike the rest of team that struggles without curry gravity

[@Moe7133]

This is the same shit with KD! Steph just draws way too much defense on him after half court and gives KD room to be the ELITE offensive scorer he wanted to be. Look at where he is at now and he got his ass owned by Boston Celtic Defense. No one to draw that defense and he's shit now. LOL!

[@haliloudiaby4945]

xpose bandwagons 777 completely agreed with you bro

[@haliloudiaby4945]

Moe7133 I Hope you’re not talking about Wiggins though ? By the way KD was literally the best players when he was at warriors even though curry was drawn to much players . Facts

[@davidcalo3084]

Player Profile: "Jimmy loves him" GM of Warriors: "We'll take him"

[@thorfinnthegoatmc]

the only metric that matters lol

[@jon4good929]

Thibbs also said they'd love him

[@GetintheCAH]

When this man's team used to get their asses whooped regularly, Wiggins didn't cry or bitch and moan, he remained consistent. When people called him a bust & made memes about him & KAT after Jimmy Buckets left, Wiggins remained professional & still consistent. Now that he's on a new team, he remains consistent & has only gotten better. Notice something? HE *REMAINED CONSISTENT* throughout it all. Ben Simmons should take notes

[@t4d0W]

Yeah. He's consistently best in a third/fourth option role. Not the one the Wolves tried to build him up as and failed miserably because their font office is shit for recognizing talent and how to utilize it properly.

[@GetintheCAH]

BludAardvark spot on

[@WtJah]

You need him in that Kawhi Leonard role. Put a good team defense around him. And tell him to score when needed and defend at all times. Wolves has the complete opposite mindset. Bad team defense, he had to score all the time and defend when he felt like it

[@alexsmith6322]

If you say consistency and Wiggins in the same sentence, it’s pretty obvious you’ve never watched Andrew Wiggins in your life. I mean this dude wasn’t even on the floor closing games vs Memphis in the second round cuz he was playing that badly. Then was key in a matchup against the clerics. That’s up and down, that’s the opposite of consistency, and that is who Andrew Wiggins is and always has been

[@teepan2388]

He is far from consistent.... usually has a good start then fades for a month or two then have a mix of good and bad games to finish. Look what happened to him when Curry got injured. He disappeared. He is a great role player but fades when he has to be the main option. That's his problem and was called a bust bc he was the #1 pick.

[@emsan3684]

He's a number 1 pick for a reason. GS really found a gem in wiggins ☺️

[@blissful_hate2657]

Def shouldn't have gon 1st but a lottery pick fs

[@KongBeats_]

Thanks for the trade, D.Lo

[@dionmiller7693]

Kerr a good ass coach

[@juanofturin9763]

FACTS ! 2-way Wiggs !!!

[@von4774]

He’s a good role player. All star voting was a joke. Lol. Any time a #1 is the 3rd or 4th option on offense that is considered a major let down. He a great role player though. Can really help a team as the 3rd or 4th guy

[@testostyrone33]

He may not have completely played up to his potential, but by no stretch of the imagination should he have ever been considered a damn "bust". He was averaging 22ppg before he was traded to GS. And in several seasons prior he averaged over 20ppg; almost 25ppg in one of those seasons. He fell victim to a bad culture and BS media narratives. He was a damn good player before he got to GS, and it was on full display throughout the playoffs.

[@windybreeze4143]

I’ve been saying this for ages, the NBA media makes and breaks stars with weird narratives. Sure he wasn’t winning, but dude was still putting up great numbers comparing to some players who were making Allstar teams. They come up with a narrative and they run with it.

[@gregorywesley7456]

Very well said, Testes Tyrone and Windy Breeze, I agree 100% with you both!!!!!! As a Cavs fan, I was totally against the Love/Wiggins trade for many reasons. I thought sending him to Minnesota, without allowing him to play one game was an organizational blunder!!!!

[@tribalypredisposed]

Yeah, nobody wants to blame the coach or organization, but Wiggins was not the reason the T-Wolves went from 11th in defense before he was drafted to 30th in defense his rookie year, that was the coach. Wiggins was not the reason the T-Wolves were 28th, 27th, and 27th the following years either, that was the coach. That those coaches made a man who is clearly at least a first team all NBA level defender look like he was a really bad defender should tell everyone just how incredibly bad they were at their jobs.

[@voreandweirdanimations4075]

@@gregorywesley7456 I agree, I thought Wiggins would have been good with Kyrie. I just didn't understand that trade, and figured it was some Lebron ish or something??

[@BH-85]

@@tribalypredisposed or could it be Wiggins didnt prioritize defense when he was there? Could it be going to the warriors and being around leaders like Green made him focus on defense. Dont matter who your coach is defense is about effort. A bad coach cant make you look bad on man to man defense. That's the player. People always looking to point fingers. How about the player take responsibility for his actions.

[@theempruhstable3601]

Never was a GSW fan at all... But I can’t deny a Ball Club that has ALWAYS put that Championship as the Main Focus and EVERY DAMN BODY FALLS IN TO THAT GOAL. I wanted GSW to win for Wiggins cause I seen him being bounced around and forced to be THE MAN when he probably wasn’t comfortable yet in such roll. He was VERY PIVOTAL in GSW wins. When the Core wasn’t scoring during these games that Boy stepped up and did his damn thing throughout. I’m Glad NO-ONE can say a damn thing about his game EVER AGAIN. He got what some greats never achieved and that’s a CHIP! 👍🏿💪🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 Salute Andrew Wiggins 🙌🏿💥

[@jaymakeinit]

Very well said ! It was crazy watching him score on every player in the lineup including Bigs

[@vastucson]

Yes! Now he IS part of that championship core. That’s why the Warriors are so good. They build champions.

[@jaymakeinit]

@@vastucson they build them 💯 people not giving them enough credit when KD was there are looking dumb now. Nobody wins championships based on 1 player it’s a collective effort

[@Newportnews98]

@@jaymakeinit bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain

[@drogonr9318]

Well said.

[@trentmas9210]

So proud of Wiggins rn. 1st All-Star appearance now 2022 NBA Champion in same season!!

[@panosts6178]

I love player empowerment just for this reason. You may be one of the best prospects in the world, having all the tools to succeed but if your situation is bad you will never realise your true potential. As a Miami Heat fan I cannot tell you how many good players we've had that were considered busts by other teams or went undrafted. Teams like the Warriors, Spurs and Raptors are just like that as well. GP2 was passed around like a blunt and now he's got Steph Curry begging the front office to keep him, that's how good the dubs are . Wiggins is not Jordan but was treated as if he was by a failing franchise that desperately needed a superstar. The Warriors made him focus on developing his game and didn't put him under the pressure of being a number 1 option. He's now a great shooter, great defender and insane slasher. He even made the all star team, and IMO he could be a perennial all-star for the foreseeable future.

[@xCrimtane]

So sad seeing great prospects get, no offence, be drafted by organizations that have no idea what they’re doing (magic)

[@panosts6178]

@@xCrimtane for real. Some other teams include the Pistons, the Knicks, the Jazz and of course the f*cking KINGS. Thank God they let my boy Tyrese go

[@benji3900]

@@panosts6178 imagine what Cousins could have been....

[@michigansportsfan865]

As a Timberwolves fan he’s right the only good players we’ve developed the past 10 years are KAT AND Anthony Edwards I’m glad he’s doing good in golden state I met him in 2019 at a game real humble dude I hope he gets a ring

[@yahiaali4059]

Honestly I don’t even think kat has reached his potential if he was drafted by another team he would be a top 5 player in the league honestly edwards is still early in his career give him like 5 years till you see how he is

[@nikosuarilla5562]

@@yahiaali4059 Kat coming out of the bench if he's in a good team

[@yahiaali4059]

@@nikosuarilla5562 you don’t think kat is all star level player?

[@michigansportsfan865]

@@yahiaali4059 true I think KAT would get more regonition if he played for another team good point

[@dubbyu4286]

I doubt the Timberwolves developed KAT and ANT

[@patrickvalimento9744]

That's the reason I feel bad for some great players coming out of college. They're still kids, so they still need someone who can teach them, unlucky for some of them, they can't find someone like that on the team who drafted them, and wiggins is a good example of that . I mean there are players who can figure it out by themselves only, but not all of them can do that

[@juliansearcie1758]

that my man is an excellent point .

[@benji3900]

Imagine DeMarcus Cousins if he'd been drafted by a competent team and hadn't gotten hurt..... Or any young guy the Kings have drafted recently.

[@meatballsub7536]

Boo Hoo, cry me a river 😭, these “kids” playing a kids game for Christ sake making millions of dollars a year

[@urbaindelva7869]

I knew that Wiggins would be the best version of himself as a Warrior soon as that trade went down. Can't say enough about how amazing he's been for them.

[@erwinhouser7704]

Thank you Kevin Durant. Good luck winning a Championship.

[@crazyvoice12]

I mean just look at Javale Mcgee. His career completely changed after going to the warriors

[@ThePoushal]

2 rings right?

[@smapili]

3 rings lol

[@notkray8468]

You're right he was a running joke to a good ass center for the GSW

[@HooodClassicsTV]

In his draft class of players like Lavine, Jokic, Embiid, Julius Randle, Smart, Dinwiddie and others Andrew Wiggins leads them all in total points. He isn’t the “best” player of all of them but he is definitely NOT a “bust”.

[@litradity7451]

see wiggins geniue smile is so heartwarming

[@baterd88]

I’ve been saying this for years. I remember asking a high school friend of mine what he thought of Wiggins in 2017 (I went to HS in MN). He said “get rid of that bum” and I’m like “No get rid of your bum ass team” all they do is chew up young prospects. What a TRASH organization! Good luck ARod.

[@TheKidler77]

I was a fan of him when he started out in Minnesota. I'm really happy for him now that he is making strides for all the world to see. Let this be a lesson to the TWolves organization and hope that they don't squander KAT and Edwards

[@Code0866]

they’ve already squandered KAT i feel like

[@beef2503]

they wasted KATs full potential! all of these comments are timberwolves fans trying to cope that the organization sucks!

[@kelvinmorris1991]

I’ve been a fan since he was at Kansas

[@Cooe.]

... They will/already are. You're in for a world of hurt if you expect the dogshit Wolves organization to change ANYTIME soon. You need to get over your severe Stockholm Syndrome. Find a team to root for whose foundational organization isn't a complete trainwreck.

[@basedoz5745]

It’s funny they could develop LaVine, the rawest player in Andrew Wiggins own draft class, they could develop 2 other number 1 picks, they let him play with KG, they let him play with Jimmy Butler. But somehow it’s the Wolves fault that he tries harder now? Give me a break. Wiggins didn’t care playing for a small market team simple as that.

[@judybash9393]

We just won the damn league title with immense contribution from his side... 😜

[@nickolitto4021]

Love seeing wiggins turn into a star in golden state

[@gershomtan5879]

People were calling him maple Jordan, in reality he's Scottie Pippen reincarnated.

[@Nicholson12345]

Scottie can't score

[@blackspine343]

LOL he is neither. Pathetic.

[@sabrifilms198]

Scottie isn’t dead 💀

[@saffachurchie6402]

@@Nicholson12345 dont talk about basketball again.

[@saffachurchie6402]

@@sabrifilms198 this is funny af lol

[@unbiasOrbit]

Andrew Wiggins is an NBA Champion!

[@pocholotorres5472]

As a Twolves fan since the early 2000s, tell me something that I don't know haha! I completely agree. The mere act of KG's refusal to have his jersey retired serves as a "stamp of approval" that the organization doesn't deserve to be celebrated and is to blame for all its shortcomings: 1. They had KG for all of his prime years and only reached the WCF once in 03-04. Tbf tho, the WC was kinda stacked, w/c is also proof of KG's greatness but he still needed help in Spree and Sam. Right after he left, he won a chip. 2. They kad KLove and Rubio, both of championship pedigree, but have no winning season to show for during their time together in Minnesota. 3. They had Wiggins and KAT, plus LaVine, Jimmy Butler, and Drose, but only made the playoffs once as an 8th seed. 4. And just recently, KAT, DLo, and Ant choking in the playoffs against the Grizzlies, again as an 8th seed. If anything, there is hope for the current roster. But until Glen Taylor is completely out of the picture, I have no expectations and am always ready for disappointment haha!

[@biorgoanylchem]

By now Kat should be able to lead his team to more than first round, management is in a pitiful state.

[@i3_13]

I think they will improve this coming season.

[@kerito1993]

Don't forget... they passed up on Steph during 2009 draft not just once, but twice.

[@beef2503]

@@kerito1993 and even if they selected him, they would still find a way to ruin him! like KAT, Anthony Edwards, Kevin Love, Andrew Wiggins and so on!

[@biorgoanylchem]

@@beef2503 You from future? Wtf hap to Edwards? Did he go win a ring somewhere else? Some of us have some hope for wolves with Aed man 😳

[@fitgamerdaddy7407]

When we traded for Wiggins and sent off dlo. I knew right there and then. Once healthy. 🏆!

[@bangduy6711]

agree . dlo is not fit as wiggins

[@nicolasconforti2604]

Great organizations: •Warriors •Spurs •Celtics •Heat •Raptors Good organizations: •Nuggets •Jazz •Rockets •Grizzlies •Thunder •Mavericks •Clippers Inconsistent organizations: •Hawks (borderline good) •Bulls •Cavaliers •Pacers •Lakers •Bucks •76ers •Suns •Trailblazers •Wizards Bad organizations: •Nets •Hornets •Pelicans •Knicks Terrible organizations: •Pistons •Timberwolves •Magic •Kings

[@archiemiras3073]

im gonna put Houston to Bad-Terrible for spoiling James Harden

[@nicolasconforti2604]

@@archiemiras3073 2 rings in the '90s, quite consistently a decent to good franchise.

[@jimmybones2171]

How is raptors a great organization?

[@sanjinvojnovic5426]

Hornets terrible

[@ceufrscio707]

Thank you Wiggins, Warriors! 💙💛

[@mydogspet]

I think Wigs can become the take over superstar now that he's growing in confidence. I see game 5 Wigs becoming the new normal, God willing, and he stays healthy. This year he learned from the best offensive and defensive players in the world. Next year he can be scary good.

[@Avermra]

He can, but i dont think he cares about that that much he is now the #2 guy on warriors but the big three will always soak up the spotlight for him, which i think work ib his favor

[@Giorgos-ee5kn]

Draymond likes him very much because if GSW wins the chip, then will get proved that they didnt need KD or sth bec Wiggins filled the gap in the roster in post KD era

[@yahiaali4059]

Draymond In this finals has been pretty average sometimes a liability he’s lucky Wiggins stepping up on both sides of the ball the way he is

[@tridra5714]

They did need KD back then if they didn't find him as valuable as he was they wouldn't have signed him but they sign him. If you mean as though they still had a chance to win a chip without kd then in that case I personally feel as though they wouldn't be able to beat LeBron but that is why we hated kd and the warriors back then because they went 73-9 and still opted to sign a top 3 guy in the league

[@yahiaali4059]

@@tridra5714 there is still no guarantees lebron could match what he did in 2016 again even without kd cuz draymond did get suspended that’s when the series went left for them but there in the finals again without him so do they really need kd or does kd need them?

[@tridra5714]

@@yahiaali4059 first they don't NEED KD but having him would be a plus. And I agree there is no guarantee that Bron would win but I feel as though Kyrie would get better as he did and the warriors would not be able to replicate the 70 win season as the longer the same core stays competitive the more teams build their rosters to beat those teams and the better they are at game planning against those teams. GSW could win but I'm not sure whether they will. GSW was great but not unbeatable but after they got KD I'm not sure there is a team in history that could beat that team

[@whatismyname218]

They needed KD to defeat Bron anyone who argues against that doesnt know squat ab the NBA cuz we all know they dont need KD against an inexperienced Boston squad

[@kckatie]

If you haven't figured it out by now - NO - it is not the players. Or at least very rarely. Some organizations are just black holes for talent.

[@brucewilliams6526]

Yes, you're right. Just look at the New York Knicks! But I'm still a fan. The organization is crap though!

[@benji3900]

It's 50/50. In a crap organization there's no way a player is going to be able straighten things out on his own. However, there are top tier talents that throw it all away, even in the best organizations.

[@cbrown940]

Wiggins did everything Steph didn't, and Steph was dominant in what he does.

[@jiweixia7844]

Champion pieces assembled

[@9InchHandle]

Draymond is semi right. Wiggins was talented but he wasn't #1 or #2. He works in GSW because he was #3/#4. Less pressure for him and he can play his way.

[@fridaynightplans_]

True. It's how Curry and Klay suck the defense for him. I don't think he can handle the pressure when he is the first option and the two is not around.

[@Kharl19]

he's no.2 now lol. Former and current NBA players had already claimed

[@KiyanPocket]

@@Kharl19 To me, Poole looks more like the number 2 option for the Warriors, I'd say Klay or Wiggins would be 3rd option.

[@Kharl19]

@@KiyanPocket 😂😂😂

[@KiyanPocket]

@@Kharl19 😂😂😂 ... what are we laughing at?

[@whatyousaywhatihear9858]

Wiggins can ball. Last year he showed what he could be. This year in the playoffs he put everyone on notice.

[@MajinErick]

I remember Wiggins as a Jayhawk making 17 ppg. He's very consistent, but being on a team of shooters, he's able to drive more like he was in college.

[@thomasfriesejr.9198]

As a Wolves fan, I can confirm Draymond is correct. They have always been dysfunctional. The current squad seems to be on the right track, but we're all just waiting for it to fall apart again like it always does. Ant might be the guy who finally changes things, though. He's so much fun to root for, and Bev is teaching him to be pro.

[@loos15]

I'm with you on that. It's like anytime something goes well with our MN team, something even more terrible is around the corner. Like the KG days when we lost 4 first round picks.

[@kouleeofficial]

Wiggins came into the Wolves being the first option and the number 1 guy expected to lead the wolves. He didn’t deliver in that standard, but going to GSW, he wasn’t expected to lead the team, he was more of a role player. He had Steph, Klay, and Green who were leading the team and he just had to play his part, and he played it exceptionally, when Steph was hurt that season, Wiggins couldn’t deliver also but no one was really upset because his role going to the warriors was never to be the number one option to lead the warriors to the championship.

[@kennethukoh519]

Thank you. Your assessment is not coming from hate. It's just facts. It's not about the Wolves not developing him, he just isn't a #1. He can focus on defense and score when the opportunity presents itself playing with the GSW. Leading a pack and being part of a pack is 2 different things.

[@ammarnapata2193]

HE'S AN NBA CHAMPION NOW!! LMAO

[@elliotgilmore5137]

I can say he is a key reason in our championship if you watched the games. I agree with Draymond fully and even thought before Wiggins was traded to GSW that he was good

[@mc1013]

Solid content again 😎🏀 Wiggins showing people he can still ball… gotta show some Canadian Ballers some love

[@juanio7036]

I’m super happy for Wiggins, the dude won himself a chip and went from so called bust, I never though that, to a championship

[@garethbaker7346]

Minnesota Timberwolves never knew what to do with Wiggins, it was obvious Andrew couldn't be bothered at the Wolves. He couldn't even bring himself to play defence and now he is one of the best defenders in the league.

[@Coinpease]

Yeah this is the point as a wolves fan that irks me. People can blame the front office all they want but if a player doesn't give a fuck about playing for you there's literally nothing you can do.

[@garethbaker7346]

@@Coinpease I think there is a lot about these teams we don't see as outsiders, if you take Minnesota and Sacramento they both have had some really good players come and go but never do well and it always seems to end in disfunction. Hopefully for you as a Wolves fan it is starting to turn around a bit with Edwards and Towns. No one can say they didn't play hard this season giving Ja and the Grizzlies such a close series.

[@jon4good929]

Wiggins played more defense than anyone on the Wolves. It's hard to stay motivated without help on that end. Wolves were the only team to beat them at least once every season during their previous peak years. You know damn well they knew what Wiggins could do and what he was capable of.

[@garethbaker7346]

@@jon4good929 It's a great shame they couldn't motivate players because Wiggins defence mixed with LaVine scoring would have been a good combination. But I think we can all agree Wiggins is better off now.

[@meatballsub7536]

Wiggins was a complete bust, what sucks is that if he tried like most of his Team mates did, there was a good chance of him just skinning his hype.

[@Zutakameku1]

I think you could say ..Steve Kerr doesn’t just yell at his players he teaches how to get rid of bad habits

[@lazyymaster0390]

look at wiggins, man.. so inspirational

[@kennethukoh519]

What's so inspirational? Honest question. The dude was a #1 overall pick. He always had the tool to be a really good 2 way player. He is a quiet kid and the expectations of being the #1 was to high for him. He finally joined a team where he can just focus on basketball. Win or lose, no one would blame him. Some people excel in just being part of the pack, than being the pack leader. This version on Wiggins isn't surprising. He is playing with more confidence since he isn't playing with pressure. Steph is the offensive anchor and Green is the defensive anchor, iggy provides vet leadership. Wiggins brought the same skills he has always had to a team that needed it, he just isn't pressure into being a great player as the Wolves wanted him to be.

[@at920]

Facts! The man has a championship now! He longs and will achieve greatness

[@joseyeastwood]

I am so happy for Andrew i have been following him since his high school career in happy that the world finally could see his redemption 🏀

[@Garanon5]

Hopefully this can help start changes in how some organizations approach developing new players. I can't help but wonder how many Andrew Wiggins' are out there who were written off early in their career when they actually had championship potential with the right environment and training.

[@tribalypredisposed]

Not that Wiggins has not improved since his rookie year, but it was mostly just putting him in a sound defensive and offensive scheme that made the difference, the Warriors did not "develop" Wiggins. Coaches and organizations that suck and cannot understand how to use players have no idea how to develop new players, and there are many out there. Draymond without Kerr would probably have been a role player on a team that never won a championship and out of the league years ago. Draymond was coming off the bench for Mark Jackson, and the idea of playing him at the five would have never occurred to any coach other than Kerr in a million years. Kerr did not "develop" Draymond, he just knew what he was and how he could be used well. There are many players like Poole who need to be developed, there are others who just need someone who understands their gifts and what they can bring to the court.

[@voreandweirdanimations4075]

@@tribalypredisposed interesting point.

[@vivienthompson1702]

👍👍👍

[@silvercat6425]

Wiggins Deserve everything, he earned it

[@blackspine343]

he didn't, this team would be a championship team without him.

[@Darknight1024]

@@blackspine343 stop being a hater

[@aznpanda510x]

The wolves should also thank us for Edwards. He tried out for the warrior before getting drafted and they say “ that all you got?” Which force him to try more and get into full gear.

[@meatballsub7536]

“They” It was literally just Steve Kerr, not the organization.

[@oskaradamczuk525]

And now Wiggs is NBA champ 💪🏆

[@julz19]

he's doing good because he doesn't have the pressure to be "the guy" on a team anymore.. well he is a number 1 pick, so that's why he was in that position.

[@Nandoswitharando]

Not only that, but the culture is different, the development of players is different, GSW is ten times the organization Minnesota is and that’s just the truth. It seems minuscule but just look at the amount of smiling you’ve seen from Wiggins these last couple of years, I don’t ever remember him smiling that much in Minnesota

[@kennethukoh519]

@@Nandoswitharando it's easy to smile when you can just focus on basketball. Wiggs isn't the 1st or 2nd option on that team, he is playing free for the 1st time. The pressure of being the #1 overall pick is not hunting him anymore. He wasn't ready to be a pack leader, so he is comfortable just being part of a pack.

[@meatballsub7536]

@@kennethukoh519 aw yes, the 6 year pressure of him getting no media attention in a poverty franchise, getting payed millions of dollars playing a kids game. The man just didn’t give a shit, never tried. People always forget how he and Towns got completely exposed by butler. Man doesn’t deserve a ring, he got put in an all star team with an all star coach. And he 100% didn’t deserve that all star award, he only won it because of the media attention and people love a good comeback story. Y’all are just dick riding his feelings, the man was a bust.

[@rhen4610]

and now he is a champion!

[@genaldgalicia5834]

let's see with james wiseman if it's really the organization.

[@Nowseemypoint]

And now he's an NBA champion🏆

[@kylorenjr1236]

GSW; Raptors; Spurs; Mavericks and Celtics are probably the most stable organization in the NBA and you can clearly see it on how well they develop their players and how well the team performs during regular and post season (with the exceptions of injuries, which is out of their control).

[@justgary2471]

Facts. Draymond spitting facts.

[@honoriomercado8762]

A great fit indeed for GSW. The Splash Brothers and even if Draymond needs rest, Wigs can play big or he could even be a 2nd duo of another Splash Brothers with Poole. Looks like the Warriors have "another generation" of players who can add championships again for the Bay Area

[@beeaveragegaming3482]

Timberwolves have been the same since day one, build around a big man and hope for the best. KAT is the problem and it's not intentional, you don't have to improve when nobody blames you.

[@vastucson]

Well done! The Warriors brought out the champion in him. But there was never any doubt about his talent and athleticism. It’s not just about stability. The Warriors have developed a system that cultivates teamwork, selflessness, and also the joy of basketball excellence. BTW : it’s exacerbated, not exasperated.

[@blrrich1051]

It's just like in football, where 1st round picks are expected to do too much, when before, it was okay for someone to sit behind Montana, Farve, Alex Smith, ect.

[@jikk4146]

Right. The warriors organization is just so good in developing players and fitting them into their system. I bet if some young guys like Brandon Ingram come to the warriors, he'll be far more better too especially on defense.

[@bassassinmaster]

I'm from MN. I can clearly say, we've had a management problem with the wolves for years. We had so much talent but some how our team is the worst every year. Bad coaching, bad scouts, bad game plans.

[@lululeaes1046]

Worth the trade. Thank you Wigging..

[@acezspaded6657]

I wonder if anyone from Minnesota reached out and congratulated him

[@jullianmolina8842]

If Wiggins was drafted my the warriors he’d already be an allstar years ago

[@brianbenoit6883]

Definitely something to be said for organizations and coaching. Look at Kobe with Phil Jackson when he was in GOAT contention and Kobe without Phil Jackson, when his attitude and lack of teamsmanship knocked him out of the top 50. Kerr brought out the best in this team just like Jackson brought out the best in Kerr's bulls.

[@royfablooo2810]

Wigs is the best example of just give him a good Leader and he'll be good. Add Steve Kerr, a certified HOF Coach.

[@minyoung823]

Damn, so many good players came from Minn that they failed to keep - Butler, Wiggs, Zach Lavine

[@danilthorstensson8902]

Butler came from the Bulls

[@jacobrocks7]

Hope he extends with GS..great fit

[@bolovrbackupchannel]

draymond Green is absolutely correct!

[@MrDoit187]

always baffled me, how people always blame the players. when there are so many factors for young men and women that play a role in their devolpment in all aspects of life.

[@laniedmd1126]

True..but basically people can only see the players so all the blame's on them

[@selanryn5849]

This just makes me wonder how good KAT could potentially be with a different team.

[@canadianchungus701]

I am in no mood to write a dissertation to sum up Timberwolves mistakes going back to early 2000s, but I can give you short answer - I was young, I am gonna get older but one thing that will stay constant is Timberwolves sucking season in season out

[@bunsdarius9223]

Garnett and Love left the Wolves and they each got a ring. And now Wiggins might get one too lol.

[@canadianchungus701]

@@bunsdarius9223 Wiggins did already😊

[@bunsdarius9223]

@@canadianchungus701 bruh IKR. I was typing that during the 4th quarter but I didn't really want to count out the Celtics yet lol

[@joenelsaracho4836]

Happy for wiggins hes a champ Traded in his rookie year when lebron dont want a part of him

[@DementedApe]

Wiggins locked Tatum up, I remember him air balling 3 times in one of the finals games which I never thought I would see out of Tatum

[@youngliltay]

With all that being said Wiggins a perfect role player

[@Dear_9000]

I think Wiggs just needed a team and teammates who believes in him and challenges him to be better. Wiggs always said the team challenged him to be a better defender & rebounder because they believe that he can do it. And voila! He really did it and the rewards came pouring in. All star nod, legit 2-way player, second best player in a championship team, and a champion. damn...

[@ger.m.a.ngiant1644]

if jimmy was taking shots at anyone at the wolves, it would be KAT. The Timberwolves were at fault for trying to turn him into this high usage type player with the ball in his hands when he was not that guy.

[@t4d0W]

Faxx. I think it showed up in this playoffs too. KAT legit had the match up vs the lack of size Grizz had up front and he should have been feasting with attacks to the basket and FTAs. Only had one big game where he got his and every other game he was just chucking for 3FG%. Its cute but it doesn't win playoff series especially vs a scrappy Grizz team that had one guy who wasn't afraid to attack the basket to help close out games as the series went on.

[@easyread-real]

Big Kudos to GSW. They know how to run an organization and take care of their players. I wish my Trail Blazers were even close to that.

[@infiniteuniverse9528]

Wiggins, Jimmy Butler, Kevin Garnett and Kevin Love could never win until they escaped from Minnesota. The franchise where careers go to die.

[@arzelzon1137]

nice content, next why DLO and Oubre dont work. 🤷, they comment about GS that GS playing style is too tiring, always want to set screens, guess what lazy player dont belong to GS

[@jirengrey4140]

DLo didn't work cos Curry played like 5 games that season, they might make it work but I think he was a just substitute for Klay Thompson for that year and just a trade piece later on.

[@shyadeny]

I think people often easily forget that these are literally just kids coming into the league. I don't think anyone truly even begins their journey into what most would consider "maturity," until their mid-late twenties. Until then, it's imperative to have the right leadership and mentorship around you to guide and steer you in the right way, as those make a profound impact on how one shapes out to be later on. We wouldn't expect the 18, 19, 20 year-old kid working at McDonald's, Macy's or wherever to think and behave on the same level that we would. It would only be fair for us as fans to remind ourselves that when it comes to these kids becoming pro-athletes that they're not all that different from them.

[@t4d0W]

I think people forget how much an organization/fit matters as well for these guys. Some of these talents aren't just easily fit-in solutions and they provide everything else. Look at Iguodala who in the last decade was one of the Warriors most important pieces in their championship run. Former one time all-star with the Sixers who got about 20ppg and he's always been great on defense. But not until his Nuggets stint did people realize he's a playmaking option. And not until Kerr took the Warriors job did he slot into his best role yet coming off the bench in a Ginobilli like role. Where his defense and playmaking option played him in one of the best small lineups in recent years because of his versatility. Also bad teams unless they have a legit goal will stay being feeder systems that feed these talents to teams with better structure where they can find their success with them.

[@xXxGlitterGirlxXx]

Big game Wiggins!

[@EZALAS]

Geez...talk, talk talk. Glen Taylor was the owner of the Timberwolves in 2009 when his "braintrust" selected Ricky Rubio and Jonny Flynn ahead of Steph Curry. Double-insanity. Glen Taylor was still the owenr of Minnesota in 2014 when his GM was Rick Adelman. In 1996, Adelman was the coach of the Golden State Warriors. That year he and GM Dave Twardzik selected Todd Fuller (who?) ahead of Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash, Peja Stojakovic, and Jermaine O'Neal in the draft. Insanity. Clearly the Timberwolves had no fricking idea what they were doing. Wiggens is blessed to have landed wth the Warriors.

[@stephenknutson6256]

It's all about coaching and flexibility. Can you imagine the wolves with LaVine, Wiggins, Towns and Rubio. They were young, inexperienced. They were learning how to win, but they were not quiet there yet. But the wolves had a coach who wanted to win now. Who wasn't flexible enough to help each of them to develope their game further. If they had good coaching and had been kept together. They would be contending for the title every year. Wiggins play regressed after Rubio was traded, and it rather amazes me, just how detrimental to Wiggins play, that trade was.

[@militiamancampbell]

Part of the issue is that these young guys get drafted to rubbish teams, teams who are rubbish because of bad structures with their sole mission in the draft to try and get a guy like Shaq who will turn your team from rubbish to gold, almost overnight. The reality is that players like that are generational and the chances of getting one of those type of players is remote, Wiggins was clearly never that guy but he excels at being the 3rd guy on a team with a good culture and systems. On that note I shed a silent tear for that poor kid who got drafted by the Kings yesterday

[@waiyee4410]

Key to any player’s success is - a group of players who play to make teammates better! Look around in NBA, is there another team that has that kind of players? For a team to work together for ONE GOAL, everyone in the team from top management to the person cleaning the floor has to be respectful to others. Warriors has that kind of organization. Yes, every team wants to win but to respect each other? Not many team has that chemistry and willingness to do that. That’s the difference between the Warriors and the rest of NBA. Trading Ingram with Wiggins was a clear example of it. Ingram does not have the same kind of personality as Wiggins. Warriors will have a couple more championships with the splash brothers and Poole party, of course Wiggs!

[@cancel.lgbtq.6892]

Both coaches & players need each other in order to succeed.

[@unsocial25]

I said all these this about the team that ACTUALLY drafted him which was LEBRONs CAVS…… He traded him without even meeting enough…… Wiggins was a animal in HIGH SCHOOL……

[@MrOctober44]

Minnesota should take some blame but you have to put this in perspective. He was supposed to be the guy, like Steph, a franchise player, scoring star. He's done none of those things. He's at best the fourth best player on the Warriors. He's definitely gotten better defensively. The man is 28 and has made one all star appearances. Yes, he's improved but still hasn't lived up to his potential or draft status

[@thedolphe]

Man like him or not Draymond Green is a basketball savant. He is not as skilled as a lot of the players in the league but man this dude has a brilliant basketball mind. I like how he calls bullshit on the old heads and I am an old head.

[@ericfranklin1802]

It’s a bit of both, sure the Timberwolves organization is pretty garbage at player development, though it’s not like Wiggins truly pushed his game further than he should have just like put mentioned in the video. A better organization doesn’t necessarily mean that a player will never be the problem but it can curb some of the worst habits of a player who is good and in need of a little more to move up to great.

[@t4d0W]

If anything blame the Wolves for building him up as a foundation talent when he's not that. He's not a consistent primary option which he was tasked to be with the Wolves (yet people can only say about his 'flashes' of games that he has where he legit is Maple Leaf Jordan). Hell even with the Butler era he was taking more touches than Jimmy and KAT who were fine for the secondary roles they excel at. Wolves org aren't great at talent evaluation/acquisition so they lit it be until they could finally move on from Wiggins (with a caveat of course). Wiggins with the Warriors shows that he is playing at his best with minimal expectations out of him behind legit studs in a top 10 player in Steph, a top 30 player in Klay (when healthy) and a coach/defensive scheme that is proven. So yes a better org solves the identity crisis in terms of where the player can fit with the current structure.

[@doge1590]

Now imagine amount of pressure and huge expectation 18yo lebron have on his shoulder.

[@norestwicked6125]

Was he pressured to get his "The Chosen One" tattoo?

[@saulshine1969]

There's a pattern and a cautionary tale that goes along with organizations like Minnesota, Sacramento, Orlando and Detroit who are constantly in the top 5 lottery picks every year. It's not the players being picked it's the organizations disfunction that has them consistently at the bottom...

[@atomant830]

It takes an organization to win an NBA championship which is why the GOAT player should not be considered on championships alone. The judging of players legacies based on championships has led to players to taking control of matters by moving via demanding trades or testing free agency when contract term ends. Wiggins was traded to an organization that knows how to get the job done. I'm happy for him. Timberwolves at one time had 3 number 1 draft picks and Butler. I remember thinking they were about 3 years away from being contenders. The organization somehow messed it up.

[@fturla]

Unstable organizations ruin the progress of NBA players. The group I see as ineffective at the moment are the Kings, Magic, 76ers, Knicks, and the Cavaliers. This does not mean those teams are good or bad. I mean they are lousy at training, providing learning on court experience, and maintaining player health. They are not taking those aspects of player development as seriously as other teams or if you want to be more specific, they do not have as much competence in that area

[@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701]

Very few of us pointed out that the TWolves are one of the worst ran franchises in the NBA and have a terrible development team and that this was the problem with Wiggins development, or lack of. We caught shit nonstop from basically everyone, including youtubers for saying this. And my biggest issue here was never that random people on youtube wanted to argue this (although most simply repeated youtubers) it was that youtubers with tens of thousands to millions of subscribers, who took the role of basketball expert to some degree (some more than others) some how, did not understand the importance of having a consistent coaching staff was for a players development, or quality of training staff, or a FO who knew they should surround young players with vets and encourage off court relationships, etc.

[@lancevandeuer]

The environment in gws is pretty cool ...they're like real bros

[@charliebrown4933]

i have a feeling this summer wiggs gonna have a elite mid range shot

[@LonghornsLegend]

But this has always been the case. #1 picks are all expected to be saviors and dominant scorers on terrible teams with no help and it usually isn't fair. But that said, sometimes a player just isn't good. We can't blame Minnesota for Wiseman if he doesn't pan out because he's on that same good organization.

[@gordonchristophertubo3164]

True. This vid feels like it ignores the existence og Wiseman

[@juliansearcie1758]

wiseman is injured .

[@jon4good929]

Wiseman had very promising stretches considering highschool and 4 college games coming in. Anyone thinking he hasn't developed is ignoring he has been injured for roughly a year.

[@LonghornsLegend]

@@jon4good929 who said he wasn't? But injuries are part of what makes top picks bust, and there's only so long LaMelo can keep making all stars and Wiseman can keep missing games before people admit it. All I said was IF he doesn't pan out, it proves sometimes it can be the player when and if they don't pan out. Because if Wiseman played for the Magic, and his career had gone exactly the same to this point, what do you think most people would be calling him?

[@shandaman7243]

They were trying to use the same narrative with Lonzo Ball the last few years before he got to Chicago. He's a great young player who on the right team with the right people and coaches around him can flourish but you were hearing "bust" talk. Ridiculous

[@ahhchoo8488]

0:06 It's fact but Minnesota has helped them so much, wiser to just keep it quiet. Minnesota passed on Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. Gave them Andrew Wiggins and Jonathan Kuminga.