Avi Loeb + Eric Weinstein: NASA into UAPs, Galileo Project update, and Government Competence (234)

[@DrBrianKeating]

Let me know if you want to see more videos like this. And Please join my mailing list for twice monthly emails about the hottest topics in science, technology, engineering and math. Just click here 👉 briankeating.com/list 📝

[@pinocleen]

The 3 horseman of astrocalypse.

[@joemarchi1]

I do.

[@instantlight3013]

Way more videos like this. Do some collabs with Curt Jaimungal also.

[@waynerobertson511]

TBH. Not really. I haven't seen any evidence that couldn't be explained by mundane things like birds, reflections, aircraft etc.. I am definitely for investigating any unexplained sightings. But, to claim Government cover-up of random events seems a bit far for me. These events have been 'seen' from around 80 years ago. Now, we have Billions more cameras in public hands, and they are of much higher resolution. Surely, we would have something definitive by now? I want to find alien life too. But, I would rather we were using the James Webb Telescope, looking at Mars, or in the (probable) oceans of Europa or Encaladus.

[@Big.Ron1]

Thank you for this. I enjoyed this.

[@JohnMichaelGodier]

One of the most fascinating discussions I've seen in a long while.

[@ChewyLoo]

Hey Uncle John

[@ME4503]

Love your shows John 👍

[@tcarr349]

JMG Good to see you! Yes very fascinating indeed! I love Brians work. I love the honesty. I love the confrontation. I don’t know what was in Eric’s cup but it kicked in at time code 1:13! I love Eric but I also love even more how Brian called him out! This is a perfect example how you can disagree and yet through mutual respect still remain professional and friends.

[@MrCriminalchris]

Love your content, keep up the good work! Kudos!

[@PeterGibbonns]

@@tcarr349 Because he already doesn’t know billionaires? Lol

[@zeldaguy32]

"Rather than safe spaces, Nietzsche would have advocated for 'dangerous spaces'; areas designed solely for intellectual sparring which no belief or opinion is immune to criticism or attack. The function of dangerous spaces would not be to offend or humiliate another person. Their function would be to provide a space for individuals to partake in a battle of ideas to discover the truth."~Academy of Ideas. Thank you for safeguarding this dangerous and difficult space in an age and culture dead-set on denigrating curiosity, free thought, and open inquiry.

[@vickielawson3114]

Sounds like that would be more like “Safe For Debate” spaces. That would be a welcome addition to colleges and universities, indeed.

[@anonony9081]

We used to call that school lol...where they'd make you debate and you couldn't choose your stance, you had to argue for whatever the teacher assigned to you

[@animationandnews9610]

Outstanding assessment!

[@mattjack3983]

@@anonony9081 EXACTLY! It's been a long time since I was in school, but thats how I remember it.

[@Gavin-hg2kk]

Ok and ...,

[@Fallahh]

“I don’t like being lied to,” What an opening statement, sums up the whole discourse of the situation.

[@crazydave911]

AMEN!

[@MCsCreations]

I always hated being lied to as well. It's really infuriating.

[@peterplotts1238]

You have no doubt already heard this, but they have advanced from lying to us to demanding that we at least feign belief in their lies and, when called upon, to recite them.

[@missycar]

​@@MCsCreationsI concur. When enough lies are told and believed they are the worst kind of weapons.

[@missycar]

They had me at honesty . Science is true whether you believe it or not.

[@theduppykillah]

Love this tag team. Eric is a bulldog and Avi the “straight man” ….how can we NOT discover what this phenomenon is with this level of intellect driving the investigation. Avi is 100% correct, we need our own, unclassified data.

[@TheChadavis33]

Haha, good cop, bad cop. Those UAPs don’t stand a chance

[@DJJonPattrsn22]

It's always great to hear from Eric Weinstein! I wish there was more from him available on a more regular basis.

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thanks. Stay tuned for more with eric and Avi

[@georgedres7914]

Brilliant scientist but worlds apart in terms of my politics

[@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube]

​@@georgedres7914, how would you characterize his politics? Cheers

[@IAmWithinEverything]

Weinstein has his own KZbin with his wife. Darkhorse something?

[@rambletonne]

". . . trying to murder ideas in their incohate infancy is antithetical to science . . . " Dr Eric Weinstein, 2022. Thank you gentlemen, wonderful conversation. More power to all of you.

[@kevinbull9284]

'inchoate'.

[@MaxCareyPlus]

I agree, although tautology ("inchoate infancy") for the sake of sounding intellectually superior is also antithetical to clear science communication... 👀

[@timeWaster76]

Irony pure irony

[@jediknight73]

great comment

[@quemoiettoi]

From Avi Loeb of the Galileo project: …”We must therefore use evidence and childhood curiosity, not our adulthood ego, as the flashlight that would free us from the darkness of our ignorance…” here’s something that accompanies that sentiment … and I love this : “Man is most nearly himself when he achieves the seriousness of a child at play.” - Heraclitus

[@znostreet-7142]

and Christo Ropollo is dismissed for the fact that he uses only flashlights to signal the ufos and sees them all the time

[@romper4444]

Damn that's good!

[@daveb.127]

I'm with Eric on this one and almost every other podcast he does. Seems like everyone is asking and committing to the wrong questions. Love the chat!

[@Hermetic7]

I agree with you. There is a significant aspect of science that has become religion-like…far more based on belief than on first principles. And much of it has become beholden to corporate interests, entrapped in money pits while legitimate curiosity has been thrown out the window and instead they go around trying to obliterate everyone else so they can get more money, rather than behave as actual scientists. As a researcher, my experience has been that so many of the so-called “experts” are either entrapped in beliefs, or, in some more minor cases, are partially “in on it” and are trying to disuade others from finding out because there are vested interests in keeping some of the secrets that are there. These are too numerous to elucidate in a KZbin comment, but a significant example would be that there is physics that is known that could actually make significant changes to our civilization but is being held back rather than being shared fully. This has actually been admited by a small number of physicists who have worked on very high security projects.

[@TherealTenmanI]

I just watched a vid with him on Jesse Michels channel. Physics of UFOs. Poor Eric couldn't process that a guy with a full schedule working on homeland security wasn't shallow enough to make himself a public international target by getting rich. Eric is correct in regards to nukes and physics but didn't think the same way regarding ESP by government agencies. In the words of Eric himself, wake the eff up. Its time to grow up and take these things seriously. Im always fascinated by how smart people are so stupid sometimes. Its rare with Eric thankfully.

[@powerpanda9837]

Yes THANK YOU ALL for talking about this. This is the conversation I've been waiting for from real, unbiased scientists.

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thanks so much! *What was your favorite takeaway from this conversation?* _Please join my mailing list to get _*_FREE_*_ notes & resources from this show! Click_ 👉 briankeating.com/mailing_list.php

[@1911Earthling]

Watch his video from prager university. He is not so scientific at all. Don’t trust this guy.

[@JulianCarson-iy1md]

Radical or fringe science is unbiased.

[@scott-qk8sm]

I've seen one of these objects from about 500 feet away while working in Alaska; and I agree it certainly wasn't swamp gas or a bird or ballon. It's very encouraging to finally see such smart individuals taking this seriously and striving to publicly find answers for us. I eagerly await their discoveries

[@governordog]

What did it look like

[@_nebulousthoughts]

Do you know what all the types weather balloons and high altitude science platforms look like? No trying to call you out but if I saw a genuine ufo finding out what it was would consume my life.

[@chrissylazar]

I had a UFO/UAP 75 to 100 feet over my head in February 2022. Cool, huh?

[@TheShootist]

well, in any case, you saw something you didn't recognize.

[@notme5744]

I can chime in on something I saw once... I walked into my bedroom about 3-4am to go to bed, and saw a kind of expanding light (I don't remember the colour) out the window. It looked sort of like a firework in how a small point of light expands outwards. In fact I thought it was a firework so I went to the window to watch a free firework show. There was a small white light that would grow in size (or intensity) and then dim back down to either a small light or nothing (I can't recall). It would keep pulsing like that but each time it would pulse it would be a different colour (white, red, blue, yellow, green, maybe others). I didn't notice if there was a pattern to the colour changes. It was moving across the sky, fairly low down, in various directions back and forth, and it was completely silent, at least I couldn't hear anything from where I was. It seemed about half a mile away, maybe a bit more. I watched it for about 5 minutes before it either moved or disappeared. I did film it on an HD digital camcorder but unfortunately nothing showed up when I watched the tape back. That's the problem with filming relatively small lights in a black sky, nothing really shows up. I might try uploading it to my PC and playing around with the footage to see if I could see anything, but that never occurred to me before now.

[@RAZORREVOLUTION1]

I really liked this interview. I love Eric's ability to communicate so eloquently. I love Avi's honesty, passion, and intelligence. I like these guys a lot.

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thanks it’s nice to get positive feedback

[@frankwillow-rogersjr.3253]

I hear you 'RAZOR...TION'; but [Brian Keating] reminds me to consider the 'stage-factor' of Discussions put forth by two other brilliant minds: Krauss and Dawson: Do-We-NEED-A-Moderator? (Do Moderators get-in-the-way) of the flow of Discussion--by those Absolutely Extraordinary minds-at-work?/!

[@bimmjim]

@RAZORREVOLUTION1 .. You got a star. .. I see no wisdom here.

[@AG-ig8uf]

Too bad both of these guys left science realm and moved into business of selling books, podcasts etc. Follow the money, whole UAP hysteria has nothing to do with science, but with unscrupulous money making. There are much more plausible explanations for virtually every UAP incident from Oumuamua to "TicTocs" , not involving aliens, but ironically UFO cultist are most close minded group, despite blaming others with that sin. Sadly people like Loeb and Weintein use their past scientific credentials to peddle pseudo-scientific gobbledygook, and Brian Keating facilitates it to gain clicks and views.

[@cargeek8419]

I don't understand why Eric Weinstein is so mad about "debunking". Is it just the word "debunk" that he's against? Or is he in favour of taking every UAP claim at face value and not to analyze it for any alternate explanation? In another chat, he was harsh on Mick West without explaining what was wrong with Mick's analysis of various UAP videos. Eric, you're a scientist. Isn't it a scientists job to critically examine everything?

[@smeer001]

It's good to see that Eric was open-minded enough to change his mind and see that UAPs are worthy of serious scientific investigation. I still can't understand why most mainstream scientists don't.

[@luke4pres]

Big facts Steve

[@PeterGibbonns]

He’s been taking UAP seriously for the past year or more my dude.

[@smeer001]

@@PeterGibbonns -good to see.

[@grimikins498]

There's a reason no one knows there names and there called mainstream scientists 🤣

[@robk5865]

It's frustrating hearing about navy vessels being "swarmed" off the west coast in the news...you would think dedicated instrumentation would have been involved from then on out. Military ships are very protective of the area they occupy anyways and contacts like this would have raised more than a few arm hairs, no? How many navy personnel would have witnessed this? Dozens? Hundreds? I witnessed Adam Schiff questioning military officials about pilot encounters with UAP's. He acted like it was his first time hearing about it. Absolutely nothing of any substance came up. Big surprise.

[@DarknessYT2010]

So happy we have brilliant men like Avi finally proactively working on this topic .

[@warner631]

Not sure how relevant this is, but watching Dr. Loeb's smile fade and watching him get to after scientists for not pursuing evidence was magical. I have always loved what I have seen of him, but seeing him get really serious and seeing what really makes a normally happy and smiling man get bothered was really eye opening for me. I also love essentially everything Eric has to say

[@theyoungbalkan]

The UFO/UAP phenomenon is slowly but Surely becoming a scientific field. I love that. Thank you professor Keating for hosting this discussion.

[@dariofromthefuture3075]

When Dr Steven Greer’s research is added to the mix - it’s a whole new world

[@steec6713]

@@dariofromthefuture3075 dudes a charlatan, but I kind of agree we are moving correctly

[@dariofromthefuture3075]

@@steec6713 what makes you say that? I find him to be the only guy that makes any sense - and he has 63 interviews with top secret poeple on his youtube channel that 'show his work' so to speak.

[@theyoungbalkan]

@@steec6713 The space is full of such people ( i don't know anything about the person mentioned here ). That is exactly why more people like Avi, Eric and Brian should work on this or help other Scientist feel secure enough to do so for real.

[@apesheet55]

@@dariofromthefuture3075 Greer’s work documenting black ops projects based on REAL whistleblowers and insiders (not fake x-CIA) is incredible and paradigm moving. If he had stuck to that he’d be much more immune to attacks by the TTSA gang. But they will never acknowledge his good work that builds a foundation to the proof of the deep state’s breakaway civilization that will soon be surfacing

[@aquamarine9568]

This was one of the most interesting conversations I have listened too in a long time. I am familiar with and love Professor Loeb’s ideas and philosophies. An introduction to Eric Weinstein’s ideas has been super interesting too. Thanks Brian for hosting this wonderful experience.

[@DrBrianKeating]

My pleasure. Have a great weekend!

[@aquamarine9568]

@@DrBrianKeating Thank you. You too.

[@RATLEEA10]

Q, What did the boys and girls see at Ariel School? Q, What did the boys and girls see at Westall School? these boys and girls are still alive have any of you interviewed or talked to them? i have seen one of these craft very close up and very personal 50ft bathed in plasma we lost 2 hours in the space of 5 minuets. you can look all you want out there and yes you may get lucky and find one of the home worlds but take it from me they are here already! nasa (small N) knows this already and is playing the game that`s been asked of them, Tim Lee UK

[@megamillionfreak]

@@RATLEEA10 Someone should get Jeremy Corbell to chase each and every one of the kids from at least the African school case down and make a massive documentary about it.

[@Joel-pn3de]

@@megamillionfreak I agree

[@caligulite]

This conversation made me feel less anxious and more optimistic in an increasingly stressful world. Thank you

[@eurethnic]

If you are feeling anxious and stressed, I highly recommend coming off social media and ignoring the so-called news. KZbin is fine as long as you don't watch the news on it.

[@alexuwo]

Turn the news off. The world is doing better than the news is telling you. They only push fear.

[@romper4444]

It also made me feel like I'm not crazy

[@rebeccabarrows4484]

Thanks!

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thanks so much! *What was your favorite takeaway from this conversation?* _Please join my mailing list to get _*_FREE_*_ notes & resources from this show! Click_ 👉 briankeating.com/mailing_list.php

[@_lysimache4832]

Even if I'm still in Gen-Ed classes, I wrote a small research paper about technosignature detection for my SCI100 course. These talks make me excited for the future, and I really hope I can investigate UAP without stigma. Thank you for indeed serving as role models to reference and listen to in my education and research.

[@De-Mystifying]

It's absolutely fascinating to me that the problems faced by modern astrophysics' compatibility with UAP phenomenon mirror the issues faced by the archaeology establishment. Thank you for holding this conversation.

[@romanholder6556]

Interesting point

[@tobiaspascher9884]

What are those issues ? Sry not fully getting your point 😅🥴

[@De-Mystifying]

@@tobiaspascher9884 Archaeology has been in crisis since the 80s. Probably the biggest problem you can easily inevestigate is the issue of the YDIH; the younger dryas impact hypothesis. This theory is the basis of the idea that an ancient civilization built some megalithic sites across the globe and was wiped out around 10,000-17,000 years ago by a global catastrophe that would have put some parts of N America under 600 feet of fast moving water and the Giza plateau under 200 feet. Official archeology has (and typically continues to) refute this idea, even though it logically explains many problems with dating (the convoluted history of dating of the Sphinx quarry comes to mind.) The issue is that the YDIH was proposed decades ago before there was substantial evidence and anyone who discussed the idea was professionally discredited... Since then geology and human mitochondrial DNA testing has proven that the YDIH is not only valid but that this event is one of the main drivers of our recent evolution.

[@anonony9081]

@@tobiaspascher9884 along with the answer you already received another parallel is that the more we learn the more we realize how wrong we've been and how little we know. Human civilization just keeps getting pushed back further and further and there's a real possibility now that there have been advanced human civilizations on this planet that were completely wiped out and lost to time in a way that would leave essentially no record

[@pinuuturner7777]

It's everywhere, Luke a virus.

[@stephendevine4341]

These are the sorts of conversations that normally only happen in private. Thank you to all three of you. Avi did get a little worked up at a few points but the frustration of all was clear. Great episode.

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thanks for sharing!

[@aminomar4002]

Eric's level of thinking is the best among all others you have hosted.

[@johngore1923]

AVI IS THE MAN. IM so glad these men are looking at this.

[@AngeloXification]

I'm so glad serious discourse around this subject is being had. Reality is far richer than what we experience.

[@primalresistance]

And this my friends, is how real progress is made on the issue. Intellectual, engaging, problem-solving conversation.

[@gboo9490]

I'm with Eric.There is just to many credible witnesses who came forward risking everything while gaining nothing but maybe answers.

[@treeflip7]

That’s not scientific evidence. That’s just, like, your opinion.

[@TimothyOBrien6]

Thanks Brian for bringing these two together. It would be great to see Eric in conversation with Jacques Vallee.

[@Smartion]

Now that’s a very good shout 👌🙏🏼

[@kringle02]

Thank God we have y’all in this world .

[@reconn3cted276]

Eric Weinstein is amazing. Didnt really know much about him but i agree with many of his takes

[@DrBrianKeating]

Lots of Eric content on my channel. Thanks Have a great weekend!

[@adamwiseman5831]

Eric gives me a lot of hope for science. So many great points. Top-level thinker.

[@coreyworthingtonii9230]

He’s got the right mind for being POTUS

[@adamwiseman5831]

No no who would sell us out to corporations and billionaires. They would murder him like JFK.

[@paulden3158]

@@coreyworthingtonii9230 is he going to run?

[@coreyworthingtonii9230]

@@paulden3158 Not that I’ve heard, but we can live in hope.

[@jerrywatt6813]

The cartel that is government would never let that happen he would have it figured out in a year but he's got my vote I could Wright him in ha ha

[@julianatrapkova1736]

I have to admit that Weinstein is one rare gem in the scientific realm that I truly appreciate . His logical approach combined with intellectual criticism is brilliant

[@stri8ted]

Delightful conversation. Avi is really a joy to listen to, his enthusiasm is contagious. Going to check out his book.

[@DrBrianKeating]

Glad you enjoyed it! Please join my mailing list; click here 👉 briankeating.com/list 📝 for more

[@dakid3429]

If one was inspired by Mr. Loeb. I urge you to catch a few minutes of an 'interview', 'discussion' with Michael Shermer on Skeptic. Pretend you don't know of Loeb's past credentials. Listen and watch. Draw your own conclusion. However, once again Dr Keating provided an interesting, provocative topic and guests. Go Brian!

[@marcoleone8189]

Eric Weinstein articulated some points extremely well. Subjects that people do not want to talk about, which obviously inhibits what we can understand and explore. If external forces promote incuriosity by punishing people who question the mainstream narrative we obviously inhibit the desire for the truth.

[@ruthiematteson6827]

Good point. It also challenges many to defy the status quo and pursue their search for the answer to the question that has been deemed "fiction" by a relatively small percentage of the population... who coincidentally rely on the funding from others in the very same group of people.

[@ruthiematteson6827]

One more thing... Avi Loeb stands to be the name everyone reads about in textbooks as the one responsible for ending the stagnation of our progress in understanding the physics that we have yet to discover... because scientists have been too preoccupied with their reputation and funding to even attempt to gather data from these seemingly physics defying objects.

[@williamjmccartan8879]

Thank you Eric, Avi, and Brian for letting us follow along, keeping scientific rigor, and not letting merit become a thing of the past, To think that seti people are not willing to share or investigate these experiences is distressing.

[@mreconomics1125]

I didnt get to that bit yet, What did they say about seti?

[@williamjmccartan8879]

@@mreconomics1125 I'm not sure at what point your into the interview, but I believe it's somewhere on the other side of the halfway point

[@ronalddecker8498]

SETI is trying to stay relevant and they don’t want the UFO (ufologist) stigma attached to their study. It is not the fault of the SETI scientists, it is the damage caused by the taboo of the subject of UFOs. To be fair, the public evidence is extremely flimsy. I have no idea about the classified evidence, so i won’t comment on it. But what i will comment on is the millions of dollars the US government has spent infiltrating ufology groups! Really messing with people’s lives up to and including driving US citizens to suicide. I think this is in part what Eric was trying to bring up. This is what is really the interesting part of the ufo phenomenon. And why does the scientific community lack curiosity about this? I think it is Crimestop from 1984.

[@williamjmccartan8879]

@@ronalddecker8498 I understand your points, as a citizen of the world I always thought that SETI would be up front and want to share the knowledge with the wider scientific community, that was the thinking of a younger more naive and hopeful individual. I'm not much of a conspiracy guy, because normally I can find enough information to make an informed decision one way or another, it's like looking behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz.

[@royanders945]

Awesome discussion, I am completely behind the principal of everything Eric and Avi said.

[@markslist1542]

Finally, truth talk on a topic long overdue for honest analysis.

[@nickg2691]

What a great, insightful conversation. I am glad there are academics out there addressing the elephant in the room regarding the recent admissions from the Pentagon.

[@thenomadrhodes]

Never heard of this Eric guy, but i love him. Avi of course never fails to be awesome. I'm so glade i get too live during this exciting time.

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thanks very much !

[@Yewbzee]

"The sky is not classified" - great point Avi, well said.

[@ronalddecker8498]

In the recent UAP congressional hearings they seriously discussed making investigating UFOs a crime. The real danger if this is allowed to happen is multifold. First the president. What subject will be next to be banned for non-sanctioned investigation? Next is define UAP? What a nebulous thing to outlaw the investigation of!! Especially when the word unidentified is named in the title? So only identified phenomena in the sky can be investigated? And third, they will use ‘national security’ as the reason investigating UAP should be criminalized. So some unidentified thing is illegal to investigate for reasons of national security but the law itself is behind a wall of security because the details were discussed in the closed door hearings, so it can’t be known by the law breaker what the law actually is as it is top secret. The sky is classified …. Or soon might be.

[@xoh_spaceboss]

Big thanks to Avi for bringing up the fact that by looking to stars we’re simply discovering a another system of nature that can’t be changed/swayed by government.

[@ne14truth]

Ask the rain forest about how much damage we can do to natural existence

[@megamillionfreak]

@@ne14truth We are Nature. Nature marches on in all its allotropic modifications without regard for dilemmas of some of its constituent parts.

[@xoh_spaceboss]

@@ne14truth Ask yourself what your doing to stop the damage to the rainforest. Casual, unsure, big mouthed bystander attitude you got right there, bud.

[@NoOne0000]

Eric has become my new living hero. There is just something about his demeanor that I find true and familiar. My previous living hero died a few years ago. Nice to maybe have found another. Thank you for giving me another opportunity to watch Eric be Eric.

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thanks very much

[@llamawizard]

Hitchens?

[@NoOne0000]

@@llamawizard nope Hawkins

[@thepiper5522]

@@NoOne0000 Hawking?

[@NoOne0000]

@@thepiper5522 yup, Stephen hawking

[@johnsmith-em2gk]

@41:24 is the start of the most important thing said during this entire podcast

[@keithremedy]

you’re talks with Eric have quickly become one of my favorite things to listen too. I finished this on my 12 mi run yesterday

[@DrBrianKeating]

dear Keith Thanks very much Thanks so much! *What was your favorite takeaway from this conversation?* _Please join my mailing list to get _*_FREE_*_ notes & resources from this show! Click_ 👉 briankeating.com/mailing_list.php

[@markwayne470]

I never cease to be amazed at Eric Weinstein's keen sense of social propriety.... Never get Discouraged ... Keep up the good work.

[@morrisdav1]

Glad to see the scientific community taking an interest.

[@williamkeys6782]

WOW! I wasn't sure I Iiked or even respected Eric Weinstein. Having said that his contribution with Avi Loeb in this podcast has impressed me to change my mind entirely. Eric and Avi are brilliant and I was a fool not to see it.

[@nelliegracelongwood5485]

Nice to see Eric again. I've heard him speak about the problem of funding for science before and I think he is right. Problem is those of us not in the field have no idea what is going on. Eric needs to go public like his brother.

[@TheHive170]

58:15, I would refer you sir to the Footage from NASA's 1991 STS-48 where you can see a UAP (above Earth) manouver to dodge something being shot at it from Earth. If they have footage like that from back then, imagine what they have now.

[@jackyoung4575]

Link me that source yung brotha ...

[@TheHive170]

@@jackyoung4575 Starts at 1:45 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZXRo6KGitV6idE

[@pedrowojciechowski8669]

Classic one

[@Alex-ip1dn]

Thank you all very much for your thoughtfulness!

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thank you too!

[@DoveSimon]

Absolutely fantastic conversation esteemed gentlemen! Finally I feel like there's a glimmer of hope for humanity. Thank you!

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thanks very much

[@RATLEEA10]

Q, What did the boys and girls see at Ariel School? Q, What did the boys and girls see at Westall School? these boys and girls are still alive have any of you interviewed or talked to them? i have seen one of these craft very close up and very personal 50ft bathed in plasma we lost 2 hours in the space of 5 minuets. you can look all you want out there and yes you may get lucky and find one of the home worlds but take it from me they are here already! nasa (small N) knows this already and is playing the game that`s been asked of them, Tim Lee UK

[@TheShootist]

@@RATLEEA10 mass hallucinations are far more common and documented than BGMs and LGM

[@ME4503]

@@TheShootist do the military send out troops and planes for mass hallucinations?

[@RATLEEA10]

@@TheShootist The children also were given messages when the Alien coerced the children to go with them and until eye contact was broken the feeling of being unable to stop it happening, very frightening for the children and alarming for a parent to watch, two of the children at Ariel School were taken out the school because it did not fit into the christian faith, the girl now an adult is still traumatized, my own encounter was very close about 50ft, a craft bathed in plasma sat in front of us while my mate and i fished, it felt like just 5 minuets but over 2 hours passed. you need to witness before you can understand and these children have had no comfort from anyone, its tragic to see and hear children tell adults i felt i was being coerced to go with them and the adult does nothing about it, but again you have to see it before you can believe it, thanks for your comment. Tim

[@OUTPOST209]

The best conversation I've seen on the internet in the longest time. Both Eric and Avi make poignant and important points. Thanks for making this conversation happen.

[@RWin-fp5jn]

Greatly enjoyed this, thank you so much Brian ! It's great to see the interaction and mutual respect. What especially resonated with me is Eric's notion that we have a very clear government / expert enforced distinction between speculative theories. Some actively promoted while others (sometimes less speculative) are 'verboten' to discuss. Political, medical, scientific; it's everywhere. Barred narratives consistently seem: obvious, reasonable, logical, well-supported, honest, and truthfull. In contrast; supported narratives are mostly deceitful, illogic, un-supported by evidence. If we translate that to Oumuamua (barred) and atmospheric UAP's (supported), this would suggest Oumuamua is exactly what Avi thinks it is and the powers that be know it too, otherwise they wouldn't try to debunk it. I agree with Brian, that Avi's idea that there will be other Oumumua's will likely not materialize. To me it feels Oumuamua was unique. More like loosing an outgoing human related beneficial object and not an incoming alien threat. What's more; It still bothers me that all experts simply ASSUME Oumumua had an incoming trajectory, whilst we only saw it as it left Earth's vicinity. If alien tech, then why are we so sure it was 'dysfunctional debris' ? there is no reason to assume it had an incoming trajectory. No reason to explain away the sudden thrust with a unintentional light sail push. No reason for it to pass so extremely close to only Earth (within 24 million km of our 940 million long orbit). And its strange shape sounds quite familiar if you browse historic documents (inevitably often of religious origin). There was an object with 10:1 length ratio, less then 200 m long and reddish. Noah arc is described exactly like this. It may be coincidence, but there may be more then meets the eye here. Lets just not hope it is the Atrahasis variant. But if it can accelerate, it can turn around as well. I personally would welcome that because ever since 2017 things have spiraled out of control on this pale blue dot. Destiny or not, I don't like it.

[@kingpkl]

I just absolutely love avi loeb, his mission and his manner of talk. I like the cut of this guys jib and in this fascinating time of UAP he is the guy I believe in to deliver to the people!

[@gibbone1970]

great debate, I hold in great esteem Avi and Eric for their scientific merits and for saying common sense words on the uap subject that nobody want to say. Now that I know Eric is a blues guitarist too I'm so happy (I'm a physicist and a blues musician too)!

[@G-rant]

Dr. Loeb: “The sky is not classified.”

[@JCChavz]

It is over classified government sites 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@nolan412]

Just the devices that can steer it.

[@A_Wolf]

It is though, which is why we need science and technology 😁

[@nathansmith5373]

Absolutely want to see them return. I am both surprised and inspired by the fact that you can all put your ego's in your back-pockets and converse robustly in favor of something that absolutely EVERYONE ON THE PLANET wants you to solve. Lets get cracking and solve this so we can all go back to our day jobs (I cant bloody well afford to watch anymore UFO podcasts at 3am in the morning!)..Anyway a massive thanks for putting your academic principles over bullshit temporal popularity on this issue - Keating, Weinstein and Loeb. All the best from Oz.

[@coreyworthingtonii9230]

100% with you bloke. I’m an Aussie who loves this stuff and I’m happy to see this fellas not getting sucked into the bs censorship facing a lot of great thinkers today. Big up to you gentlemen!!

[@veraluciacampos3776]

Brian Keating is always a pleasant surprise with his PhD humor but Avi Loeb is amazing, he fights the giants not loosing focus nor humor! Bravo!

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thanks very much 😀

[@veraluciacampos3776]

@@DrBrianKeating thank you, very much!🙏

[@freehat2722]

I'm glad Eric joined the conversation.

[@mestanley1753]

Loeb: "It's relatively simple to understand what happened. Bill Nelson was very intrigued by UAP because as a Senator he saw some classified data that is not available to the public, and now that he became the head of NASA he said that... scientist should get engaged because he believes that this is a serious matter." The public deserves access to this data, and if not we deserve as much of an explanation to why not, as can be safely given in regards to national security.

[@darrenmarcum5866]

Much respect These are conversations worth hearing.

[@ka9dgx]

Eric's point seems quite clear to me. New ideas start out fuzzy, and sometimes in an interesting direction that might be a bit off... expecting a new idea to be perfect right out of the gate results in ZERO new ideas, as they all get prematurely optimized out of existence. There MUST be a way to give people time and space to explore basic research without the current "Hunger Games" funding model.

[@nicknorthcutt7680]

Gotta love Eric. He's so blunt and to the point about this topic. It's really what we need in order to finally get some answers. Thanks for the great podcast!

[@DrBrianKeating]

Couldn't agree more!

[@geemanbmw]

This was definitely the best episode ever. Dr Keating thank you sir.

[@DrBrianKeating]

Wow. Love to hear that

[@kimjellen4508]

Avi makes so much sense to me. But man, Weinstein is truly starting to shine ✨

[@Kollegah9997]

Eric Weinstein, you are a living LEGEND, thank you. SETI and the mainstream scientific community should take a backseat and let the adults to study this serious issue.

[@neurolancer81]

You do realize that SETI is not looking at UAPs right? They look outside the planet. They don’t have the tools for looking at stuff on planet earth.

[@human678]

@@neurolancer81 then they should broaden their area of investigation

[@neurolancer81]

@@human678 Friend, they don’t have the capability to do that. The SETI telescopes cannot look at something that close very accurately.

[@human678]

@@neurolancer81 hence the word broaden

[@neurolancer81]

@@human678 It is millions to billions of dollars to broaden that capability. It’s easier for other agencies which are already looking on earth to do It.

[@w3bst3r123]

I love the endeavor from Loeb, but as someone having studied the UAP/UFO phenomenon for many years, I can guarentee that it won't be as easy nor as definitive to gather and analyze the data as he posits. But great to see the attempt :)

[@MaximusAurelius1111]

Finally, one of few academics who want truth and answers from UAP's.

[@larryrich327]

Avi is a real genius, he gives off a vibe of intelligence

[@DrBrianKeating]

True

[@William393rd]

Great discussion. Kudos to Brian for giving this important topic the attention it deserves. And many thanks Avi and Eric for taking the lead in bringing the topic out of the academic dark ages.

[@DrBrianKeating]

Much appreciated!

[@Declan_Egan]

Great guests to bring together. Thanks Brian 🤟🏻

[@DrBrianKeating]

You bet

[@zekeedmondson2001]

What an amazing talk I really really enjoyed that. I'm really curious to know what changed Erick's tune. I love Erick and have followed him for years and he has really done a 180 on his views on UAP'S, UFO'S and the technology they pull into play. I feel like the curtain is opening to some really exciting and new ideas for our current reality.

[@wvufo]

This was incredible. Fiery at times. Little bit of tension there for a min because the passion is so strong. Very encouraging and promising. Brilliant minds will figure this out and here they are making history.

[@malik_alharb]

Avi and Eric are right in the nail about the scientific community's shortcomings and irrationality

[@JP-wd1yo]

i've seen one. unforgettable unshareable and kept it to myself, thought i'd die with it. but now this. never thought this conversation would occur in my life time. its more fascinating that scientist are discussing this to me than the old news phenomena itself. ironically

[@Red_AIert]

Eric Weinstein is a brilliant man but he also plays a mean harmonica and guitar. I wish we could see and hear more from him. Thanks for the podcast gentlemen. 🇺🇸✌🏽

[@thekreal8703]

So refreshing to hear Eric speak truth and truths that the dying light is currently raging against.

[@joshuarichardson6529]

It is nice to finally hear from someone who doesn't believe that reality is subject to a popular vote.

[@thekreal8703]

@@joshuarichardson6529 well put

[@gerardbiddle1808]

Thanks you all for the excellent podcast discussion. 2:00:18. Eric is a very good pragmatist and I think is on the right track. 2:02:07

[@noirtesseract2104]

I love Eric Weinstein attitude and position on the topic and Avi Loeb ‘s curiosity along with his insight. All prepped by Brian’s right questioning. I’m just happy to have witness this great dialogue on a captivating subject. U got a sub out of me.

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thanks so much. Made my day. Have a great weekend!

[@noirtesseract2104]

@@DrBrianKeatingNo ,thank you and enjoy your weekend as well.

[@TheChadavis33]

I highly recommend getting Kevin Knuth on the show. He’s one of the few physicists who has been interested in this topic for some time. His voice sometimes gets over shadowed by bigger scientists like Avi (don’t get me wrong, I love Avi). Kevin just deserves more respect and recognition for what’s he’s been doing

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thanks very much for the feedback

[@omni_0101]

Kevin Knuth is who I thought of when Eric made his University of Kentucky reference.

[@TheChadavis33]

@@omni_0101 that’s exactly what I thought. He gets relegated to the margins because he’s at the University of Albany, but he’s a fantastic theoretical physicist and is doing great stuff with UAPs

[@jayfig78]

Eric F’ing Weinstein!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 you nailed it! This will have to morph into a much bigger discussion about government manipulation of society. We might be more like China than we may realize. Scientists will have to learn geopolitics if they want a shred of understanding on what’s going on here.

[@russellfurbush7499]

Bingo 🎯

[@noxtwilight_]

Agreed. Finally! "The adults are talking!" We have to be willing to face reality and deal with the men behind the curtains who we are allowing to continue pushing society in this direction. I applaud Eric's stand firmly in his points about not answering all challenges but only the reasonable ones made in equality and ethical behavior. I stand with you. We can figure out how to achieve this.

[@sethjensen2291]

Exactly. But hopeful one step at a time here

[@Procanin]

It as been clear that the government lie and so does the msm.

[@joshualyons4121]

Great video. I can feel Eric's frustration on academia. I think people who matter are starting to form their own groups and real science will prevail over $cience. .

[@RATLEEA10]

Q, What did the boys and girls see at Ariel School? Q, What did the boys and girls see at Westall School? these boys and girls are still alive have any of you interviewed or talked to them? i have seen one of these craft very close up and very personal 50ft bathed in plasma we lost 2 hours in the space of 5 minuets. you can look all you want out there and yes you may get lucky and find one of the home worlds but take it from me they are here already! nasa (small N) knows this already and is playing the game that`s been asked of them, Tim Lee UK

[@johncassell3362]

No, the scientific community functions like he says he wants. He is just mad he doesn't get funding. it's not a big problem generally, it's just a problem for him

[@MiqelDotCom]

@@johncassell3362 Agreed. He's starting to sound like a broken record, the same overblown complaints every time. In general I agree that such things obviously happen, but it's no different in any other area of academia. When you have to deal with humans you have to deal with ego games and such. The problem seems to be with his self-image as a persecuted super genius.

[@johncassell3362]

@@MiqelDotCom it's sad. I don't like that he doesn't get the respect he deserves. Also, I don't like people who harber pathological resentment

[@bradbryant3810]

Brian - Thank you ( I am a lifelong MENSA person) This is one of the most important videos posted ANYWHERE! Thank you for choosing these 2 men! Don't stop what you've begun. You will realize, increasingly, that this may be what you were born for. There is NO more important subject! It IS real, and we HAVE been lied-to for 70+ years, It is imperative that our BEST scientists - and NOT just flunkies who can keep quiet - are put to work on this! I have been hoping that a few top-tier scientists would come out INDEPENDENTLY! Kudos to you great scientists now in the vanguard!

[@billwalsh2717]

This was an amazing conversation with some very passionate scientists. I wish my children would be able to attend your classroom. Your the side of education every parent wishes their children be apart of. Ty

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thanks very much bill

[@Yewbzee]

A fantastic and fascinating discussion. I've got to say a big thanks to all 3 of you legends. Only with the drive and courage from hugely respected personalities like you will we get to the bottom of this UAP mystery. Thank you once again.

[@R1chbloke12]

Really enjoyed this conversation, Dr Keating, looking forward to this trio in future. Especially when more quantitative and supporting qualitative (eg. credible observers on said instruments) data are available for debate re. UAPs, which controversially, includes phenomenon verging on, and going into, "the woo". Challenging times!

[@walkerdale6602]

Thank you all. Your discussion makes me wonder what other areas we are blind to due to reputational fight or flight. Hopefully just by discussing this topic and the investigation of this topic will crack open the door in the minds of young scientists.

[@edriley2703]

Gentlemen, as a multi event Experiencer, I can honestly say to you all - be prepared to toss your textbooks and research papers into the perverbial fires of eternal ignorance. There's a reason this topic has been so concealed, convoluted, and conspirital. It's beyond our cubed space and spatial mind aerobics. I'm here to say - be child-like, be open, be innocent. It's nothing like you can imagine. Thank you for your service to science but put it all past you like it has never happened. Because, you'll soon realize - it hasn't.

[@linaleon5734]

Kudos to these gentlemen for speaking up against the political, journalist, and other elements of society holding back progress in the areas of UAPs. .

[@binarysuperset8816]

Excellent conversation and hope you all keep moving forward with your ideas and your platform. The immensity of this subject can not be understated.

[@zonzone6635]

Eric Weinstein is amazing, he's my most favorite modern intellectual. Great podcast, great conversation!

[@xoh_spaceboss]

Great conversation, thank you three for all you do!

[@966396631]

Such remarkably intelligent and articulate people. Very important topic being addressed here by some of the most impressive thought leaders in the world.

[@DharmaScienceRadio]

Pls have Dan Winter on. I NEED to see Dan x Eric. This is a 5 or 10 hour conversation, at least, which absolutely no one will comprehend, yet we will all benefit from having watched.

[@davemclean3899]

I do agree with Eric in that people assume alot that beings may be millions of years ahead of us but if there's a technological limit we may be closer to the limit and when nuclear weapons were detonated beings elsewhere thought they'd better keep an eye on us.

[@mechannel7046]

Love Avi! Go find them aliens, Avi! BTW, Eric Weinstein is better than expected in this talk; glad he's come around on the UFO / UAP issue. Loved what Eric said about the mindless debunkers and SETI people - spot right on!

[@gingerbill128]

Agreed people who change their opinion deserve credit , i am not convinced myself but it's ridiculous to not at least look into it seriously. My concern is if they did genuinely look into it at length and they didn't find anything interesting either way , they would just be called liars basically by lots of people and ignored , too many people would never believe their are no aliens that have contacted us or been here in some form. . Was a great episode.

[@DrBrianKeating]

Appreciate your feedback

[@mechannel7046]

@@DrBrianKeating Thank YOU, Dr. Keating, for the fascinating talk. Can you please interview Hal Puthoff, James Lacatski, Dr. Travis Taylor, and/or Dr. Kevin Knuth with Eric Weinstein?

[@megamillionfreak]

@@mechannel7046 Eric Davis, Jack Sarfatti.

[@sciencenerd8428]

BRAVO! What an incredible episode! 👏

[@RATLEEA10]

Q, What did the boys and girls see at Ariel School? Q, What did the boys and girls see at Westall School? these boys and girls are still alive have any of you interviewed or talked to them? i have seen one of these craft very close up and very personal 50ft bathed in plasma we lost 2 hours in the space of 5 minuets. you can look all you want out there and yes you may get lucky and find one of the home worlds but take it from me they are here already! nasa (small N) knows this already and is playing the game that`s been asked of them, Tim Lee UK

[@Americaisplastic36]

I’m super impressed with Eric Weinstein. He does not shy away from asking the hard questions. I was amazed to hear some of the stuff he brought up here in this interview. Usually when videos discuss some of these topics they get taken down from KZbin immediately. I applaud his courage. Great interview. I will be sharing this

[@DrBrianKeating]

Thanks very much James

[@wildcatmahone-md6me]

Mr. Weinstein can be a rude prick sometimes but he does raise good questions and has the means to find the answers.

[@chrismaggarcia8357]

Thank you Dr. Keating for having on your podcast Eric and Avi and talking about this. Very informative ❤