Dreaded Job - Welding a REPAIR KIT onto the Rear Trailing Arm of a Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit PART 43

[@pherman8852]

I don’t know if Mrs. Vince watches these, but my wife does. She informed me that if I ever did this she would kill me. Great job Vince, you are truly a blessing sir!

[@Pwills]

I was always taught when welding that if it sounds like frying bacon then you are welding and if it smells like frying bacon then you are on fire. Lol🤣😂🤣

[@HavingFunRepairs]

Huge testament of perseverance. Your dad sounds like he's a great encouragement to you.

[@Mymatevince]

He does occasionally have wise words😂

[@ProMasterTheGamer52]

​@@Mymatevince When part 44 coming

[@davidsmith-ih2kk]

My dad would sympathise with you Vince, 50 years ago when we first came to Western Australia my dad was working on the then new fuel tankers at Port Beach, in the broiling West Australian sun weld a seam xray it, weld another xray it, sometimes it was over 40 centigrade. Of course I didn't appreciate his effort in doing this, only now do I see it for what it was a gruelling torturous job. A great video as usual Vince love the Rolls videos.

[@BrianSmith-ow9gy]

Vince, you need a slide under. A sort of tea tray with wheels or castors.

[@markwhitfield5412]

Welcome to the world of welding, been doing it for 44 years, neck ache, back ache burns in the head burns in the fingers, burns in the ears, burns where the sun don't shine, and various trips to the eye department at the hospital, arc eyes, grinding grit stuck in the eye, I've now got a slight rusty looking eye, mistaken arc eye for a bit of crap in my eye, it's all good fun.

[@zzmike]

Definitely ultra scary, Vince. Hard to watch at times. But your grit and unwillingness to "not prevail" is greatly to your credit. I definitely got the heeby-jeebies through the internet watching you maneuver that spring out and back in! I am looking forward to seeing the Rolls back on the road. I've watched every RR video and enjoyed them all! ----Mike (in Texas, USA)

[@DG-mi2mc]

They sell aerosol cans ''anti spatter spray'', if you spray that in your nozzle it will make a huge difference! Great video as always Vince!

[@fatbelly2438]

the anit-spatter spray now is rubbish water based..not like in the old days it was silicon based.. i ended up just using old oil just sprayed onto the metal and tip..

[@DG-mi2mc]

@@fatbelly2438 That is possible! It has been almost 10 years ago that i used it so yeah 😄

[@brendonelton]

Anti Spatter is thinned down vegetable oil.

[@Drew-Dastardly]

Anti spatter looked to me like dishsoap and water.

[@-Scraggyanne-]

It's amazing to see how far you have come with this. The welding looks great, the damp weather can affect welding. and the Rolls Royce is coming together nicely. I hope that it passes the MOT. ❤

[@BrandalfTheGray]

I'm glad you were able to get it all welded up, and I hope it passes the MOT, good luck. You can hear the frustration in your voice in this one, which I definitely understand. Somedays, it just feels like it's not our day. I have a hard time accepting that sometimes. BUT, out of all the MMV videos you post, the Rolls videos are the ones I look forward to. Keep up the great work Vince!

[@leybraith3561]

Neck/Head support when lying down in tight spaces - When working in spaces where I need to lift my head slightly off the ground for long periods I have two solutions. 1. grab an old traffic cone, stuff something soft inside, lay it down on its side and poke it under your neck. moving head or cone gives 'comfortable' variable height support. 2. A pump up blood pressure arm cuff under you head. Squeeze the air pump bulb / release pressure for height adjust. Wrap in old woolen jumper sleeve to avoid punctures and embers. if something nasty happens (insert sound effect here), you get less skull trauma than from using a solid object like a brick..

[@Phiyedough]

There were some useful suggestions in the comments of the last video for ways to do the job in a safer way, so I was surprised to see you refitting the spring the same way as you removed it.

[@PlanetRuncorn]

Vince : you can also view or download a MOT Testers Guide, and you could Possible do your own MOT inspection before you take it to the Proper one, you will have all the reference material and see exectaely what they are looking for before you take it to a proper one .

[@mrjsv4935]

Well done :) Definetely not an easy job, not a lot of space there and even the weather made it more difficult, but you still did it. I've probably mentioned already in the past, that I've experienced rear coil spring failure in my 1990 Mazda 323 sedan, happened sometime in the early 2000's. While driving. It broke right when the suspension was compressed on bumpy road (winter time) and made loud bang noise, probably most of the noise was spring hitting the strut tower top plate with enormous force, I could even feel some vibrations at the driver's seat. The car was 1990 Mazda 323 with McPherson struts front and back (spring and shock absorber in one unit). The spring snapped at the top coil, so there was not very big distance for the rest of the spring to hit strut tower top plate, but still made such a big bang. There indeed is quite a force loaded in them.

[@sp523]

Great Job Vince! I would never even ever try to tackle this job by myself. We do not have MOT inspections in the US so I wish you the best when you take the Rolls to get your MOT done!

[@Lefistou]

Between the ominous threat of the spring and the camera angles, I haven’t been this scared since The Blair Witch Project 😂 great job as usual Vince

[@Mymatevince]

😂

[@paulrchapman1]

Wanted to give you a manly hug, partly relief (as I was hating seeing that bunched up spring) that you are unhurt, but also in admiration of your staying power. I too have a Spirit which needed a spring pocket welded. I just paid the £600 part and labour charge. If you can do this, you can do anything.

[@gilly51449]

I used to be a MOT tester and did loads of mig welding years ago when car's really used to rot and to be honest with you I found the gasless welders close to useless, we had one for outside repairs/on site, I bought my own hobby welder for home , I've found you get a better weld with 0.6mm wire and I use Co2 pub bottles with mine as it's cheaper than argon mix , for reference mine's a Clarke 100E from machine mart

[@TheSkaldenmettrunk]

What a crazy big job! I'm glad the spring didn't hurt you. Nice work. Forgot to say that I really hope you pass the MOT with it.

[@fosterb247]

I felt your pain Vince - As we used to say "You D.I.Y and you might D.I.E" Such a tricky thing to undertake and get right. Luvin' the series and best of luck with your local MOT visit 🤓

[@wisher21uk]

Vince you’re doing so well, you’ve taken to working on the car like a duck to water “penetration, helmet, and head” I hope there’s enough there for the KZbin algorithm 😂 Keep up the excellent work Vince 😊

[@ratgreen]

In a twisted way I'm kind of glad someone else out there has gone through the insane struggle of doing lots of welding under a car on the floor on their back. I completely resonate with the hatred for having no space to do anything, holding the welding gun above your head, cant turn your head without hitting it, unable to see what I'm doing because its dark, and then getting nozzles blocked or wire sticks out, or splatter down your sleeve or in your ear hole, stomach muscles aching, neck muscles aching. (check my welding video). I was using a spray can on its side as a pillow to save me holding my head up so much lol. It actually got so bad I modded my welding mask to have LED strip lights on it, powered by an 18650. So I can see what I'm welding hands free, with no obstructions.

[@DrRestoration]

Loving how quick you are getting these videos out Vince! Always fun following you on your endeavors!

[@benc8386]

With that kind of weld the strength comes from the fillet rather than it going all the way through. So just a bit of heat and slight bumpiness on the back is what you want. But to repeat my comment on the last video that wire is not supposed to be used for multiple passes. Really you should take the arm off and do a nice TIG or MIG weld on the bench. I think you did absolutely the best job you could have in the circumstances and with the equipment. Will probably hold but I doubt it's as strong as the base metal.

[@Marcel1984nl]

Well done Vince, if I did this myself I wouldn't like to fix this and then add that warm weather, but you've done it well. Hope you pass the car inspection with this fix. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the video!

[@geoffowen7627]

Great vid Vince, it's not always about the job itself, it's watching you overcome the obstacles too, everything went against you at times, but you got it done. Nice work, hope it's lasting and the mot people approve it. To be honest it would be dull if everything went smoothly every time, showing the rough with the smooth is reality and I appreciate seeing that. Enjoying the series as a whole, keep up the good work sir. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@Ryanlhe]

Hey Vince you should look in to tig welding I feel like you would love it and you have a bunch more patience then most people and if you have something dirty you can always stick weld it with the same machine

[@dianeramakers3368]

Well done. For the first time I felt quite scared while watching this video.. By the way, I noticed something that my dad, who was a teacher at a technical school definately would tell you to take off. That’s your ring on your finger.

[@psycloneranger2279]

well done vince these days will be remembered fondly when your cruising round in your classic rolls royce

[@0ButterBall]

Congrats on making it through unscathed! The clench was real when it came to that spring

[@Mymatevince]

👍👍👍👍

[@neilsmith8313]

Without a shadow of a doubt, the most entertaining series of informative, educating (yes I said Educating Vince), interesting, sometimes agonizing, and yet rewarding KZbin videos ever. I have a suggestion for a name for Aylesbury Duck, how about Van Gogh after all it is Vincents ( Van Gogh lol)

[@springbok2300]

Love the scientific testing "let the jack down fast and a little push on the boot"

[@azmoz1321]

Quick kick of the tyres :-) who needs an MOT :-)

[@markbradley1975]

Hi Vince, that was a tough job. No one job is 100% satisfying all of the time. The main thing is you got it done and safely without any major injury or damage occurring. Keep up the great job you’re doing. If ever you fancy a trip in the Rolls south of the river (Croydon), let me know as I’d love to see the car in action.

[@Rick_Hunter___]

Hello mate from what i remember from when i learned to weld we used welding paste and doped the nozzle in to avoid the problems you get that it gets stuck. so it might be something you can try if you need to weld a lot more 😊

[@19mati67]

It's a good idea to remove a bolt from the strut, and even some bolts from the control arm, to be able to drop everything more down. Great job by the way.

[@theraptorsnest5891]

A big thumbs up for all the effort you showed in this video!!!

[@bobuilt10]

Migs don't like coils in the welding lead. Try to keep it as straight as possible by moving the welder back. Flux core wire does spatter much more than with gas. Once you've tried an argon gas mix, you'll never go back. The difference in weld quality is night and day.

[@RetroTechRepair]

Oh Vince! This reminds me why I stopped working on cars as a hobby! I felt for you all the way through. Awesome video though. Really enjoying this series. Thanks for sharing

[@ianbradshaw9704]

Hi Vince, 100% for determination, keep the vid's coming, and watch those Amps

[@ThePaulharwood]

hi vince ..... i did so much in joy part 43 lol but i do in joy all of your videos pmsl

[@stormrider01]

It’s enough I think. Looks good 👍

[@PaulDaly-bl3rk]

Keep going Vince...I'll be honest when you got this car I didn't think you had a chance, owning a Bentley Turbo R ..( same shape) I know what these are like....but you have proved me wrong everytime, I'm finding this really interesting keep up the great work

[@ruikazane5123]

Did you try flipping the electrode polarity on the welder? Is it AC or DC output? Try on scrap metal to see which way makes the least splatter and the most penetration. Flux core welds create slag, glad you figured that part with trying to weld on top of weld. Holding back the urge to "sproing" is commendable! At the very least you may now drive it to a shop and get everything proper, good luck!

[@hughplays2241]

Your video from 2016 saved my xbox thank you

[@MicroCheddars]

I personally would have used a TIG welder as it is a cleaner weld. Love the videos, fantastic watching, thank you Vince.

[@peterthebricky]

As a bricklayer I know all about waiting for the rain to stop, welding story I was working on a warehouse refurbishment on Heathrow airport some angle iron framework over the top of a doorway needed repair, " can you weld " asked the builder " a bit " I replied " I can " said my mate Eddie so the pair of us were on a mobile platform straightening and rewelding the framework Eddie as lead welder , there was a team of guys inside installing some machinery every time one of them walked near us he would squark like a bird eventually I asked him why he said " it's not me it's one of them seagulls that's shat all over your work "

[@Mymatevince]

🤣👍

[@rolf9138]

Vince! A tip from Atlanta GA, get yourself some spare cardboard to lay on under the car, makes it another easier to get in and out!

[@plasmaDave]

Having had a very near miss/glancing blow on the forehead from an escaping car spring I can agree with the cautionary advice. I had a Lexus LS400 that would every year or so bust a spring whilst driving, not great..

[@bobsbits5357]

hi i used a wire weld over 30 years ago there is some skill to it good to see it's coming on now at last

[@JonPadfield]

That looked gruelling Vince, nice one for finishing it. You didn't complain nearly as much as I would 😆

[@AcornElectron]

14 months on….. making progress Vincent! I’m loving that this is being saved from potentially the scrappers yard. I reckon the issue with these vids is simply the subject of repair. It’s quite niche and doesn’t grab the Nintendo/Sega/Atari/Watch crew. Maybe if more people watched these rolls repair videos they’d see how (relatively) easy it can be to fix your own car. You’ve got virtually every problem a car could have covered in this series 😂

[@jochenwuerfel]

21:48 Please don't.. I nearly died when you put in the explosion sound effect 🤣

[@chrislee1701]

I don't think you moaned too much at all, you were just being honest about the reality of a very difficult job. Well done for seeing it through to the end.

[@johnchettleburgh6055]

In hindsight, would it have been easier to remove the trailing arm and weld it on the bench?

[@IMDYT420]

Nice to see the rain in the UK, currently watching this during a storm and no power. Great video so far Vince :)

[@eskimojulie]

Nice one , well done Vince !

[@therestorementor7742]

That weld will be fine, i would not worry about it would happily drive around and feel safe 👍👍

[@imc7691]

Flux core wire always splatters a lot. You need to get some anti splatter spray. It not perfect but it does help.

[@alisterbh]

Much nicer place to be sitting while it's raining than when you started the project!

[@GNX87]

Hello Vince, you can remove the gas nozzle when using flux core wire, it gives you more room to weld at the tip.

[@K.P.Alexander]

Nice work on that. I don't know if I would have had the patience for the under-the-car bit. Also, you should grab yourself a chipping hammer for removing the weld slag (since you're using flux-core wire). It's a lot faster than just using the wire brush.

[@devttyUSB0]

Hahah. No need for apologies, i'd say! These projects come with ups and downs. As you said, this is real life.

[@Mymatevince]

Thanks Devtty 😎

[@dodgydruid]

Was thinking of you today when in Lidl's buying some anti-spatter weld spray, useful stuff indeed.

[@QPRRhino]

Well done, worth it in the end.

[@jell-oputin8036]

Yikes😬watching you do the coil made me nervous. Remember that you have family,LoL 👍🏼 Love your videos man.

[@zurnchris1002]

Use mig nozzle gel and stick the end of it in the gel. It will coat the tip and nozzle’s interior.

[@johnhansen4550]

Great! Hope the guys at MOP agree that you did a good job.

[@mrw6156]

FYI - it is the MOT test (old Govt department name when it was introduced in 1963 ish - Ministry of Transport - now Department of Transport but still called the MoT test by all). Annual test of road worthiness once the vehicle is 3 years old. Many garages can do it - its not done at government garages (like in many countries). Was introduced to get rid of the large number of 1930s vehicles still being driven in the early 60's that were disproportionately involved in accidents due to rust, wear and tear etc - the war and subsequent economic disruption played a part. Also manufacturers wanting to sell more cars - many cars from that era were lucky to last 3 years without rust or major issues.

[@gendragongfly]

The welds look okay, but it's impossible to say how good they are without checking with an ultrasound or x-ray machine. If you get the chance I'd recommend having a skilled welder go over them again. In my experience: if you don't see any deformation you're probably not adding enough heat. A skilled welder will know how to lay the welds in the correct order so that the deformation will be minimal.

[@malcolmscott9566]

You should try the anti splatter spray, its not perfect but it will help, I think its been mentioned in a few other comments.

[@canalboating]

The next Guy!!! surely you're going to be cruising around with Mrs my mate Vince for years to come after all this work 🤣

[@clarkpink1955]

Well done vince boy goodjob you did well

[@kotm3]

I was using flux core wire but then changed to gas. Got a different welder. Just because welding the renault 5 gtt is like welding paper. The roller is nice and thick. The penetration looked good to me. Your welds don’t look like pigeon poo, so all good mate! 👍💪

[@Mymatevince]

😂👍👍👍Nice one buddy

[@macefentura]

I really wished if I was as patient as Vindaloo here👍😎

[@marktriggle2259]

Very well done keep up good work we all winged about the things that go weight lol

[@jonathananderson6388]

If any of the steel gets on the contact tip, it will melt while welding and cause the wire to stick. You can sand the tip a bit till it is bare copper again and should be fine.

[@jonathananderson6388]

For penatration, if you can see a decent amount of color change on the backside of the plate it should be sufficient.

[@Mymatevince]

Thanks Jonathan👌

[@HeikosGarage]

Did you put any paint on your work before you installed the coils back in?

[@georgekyriacou1338]

Fantastic job...must admit that at the end of the video when you are trying to bounce the car in the dark it was like a home made horror story😂

[@marshelene]

1:18 on a day like today, WHEN YOU'RE ALL ARGUMENTATIVE

[@twadugs2]

I like your confidence that your welds will last for a next guy😅😂😂😂

[@thomaslindh9971]

Well done!

[@neilwallace4597]

With mig welding as you have found out you really need good clean metal for a successful weld grind or sanding disc's are you're friends here and key to a good weld

[@melike1984]

well done mate. 👏

[@davidclark3603]

I love that car!!!!!

[@chrisprobert6]

That was funny , you nearly losing it at the start 😅 It's all fine when MOT is passed

[@torchs34]

I feel for you bud, i used to work on the floor in the freezing cold.

[@TheJensenInterceptor]

Please did you Weld the bowl to the suspension arm, We did not see this and this was incredibly important. Shims allow movement, effectively providing a moveable platform, especially if they are greased. This would be planned to reduce noise and also stop the spring grinding into the bowl. There is a good chance the springs will move on heavy bumps and road surfaces, in a horizontal plane as well as he obvious vertical plane. Sorry great entertainment, but I felt the pain all the way through and makes me feel sad and slightly stressed.

[@coolersmoke]

Just to say I admire your YT name... An Interceptor MkIII has always been my dream motor ;-)

[@johnboi8346]

Change your tips and shield on your welder gun regularly! Get your self a fold up tent and work under that!

[@roydriver8956]

Well done or should that be weld done?

[@geoffowen7627]

Suddenly Vince thinks, did I put that spring in upside down........ (Kidding) 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@CD_Player_91]

You need a magnetic led flashlight Vince 🔦

[@theatheisthammer]

Take the silver vowel off its a gassless so you dont need it. Always check the tension on the rollers

[@ovalwingnut]

You said "pen·e·tra·tion" and it made my day

[@stuartbrooks5734]

You really need to try tip dip it's a game changer it stops your welding tip blocking

[@MikeL-FL]

Gasless wire welding is always messy and splattered. I can lay down perfect welds with the MIG or TIG, but the wire welder always makes a mess. Sucks, cause that’s what I have in my garage. 😵

[@dodgydruid]

You do know that with flux core you don't actually need the gas shroud on the gun end? You can actually buy flux core ends for flux core welding and makes life a lot easier and tips last longer too.

[@marcos3ltrv6]

I wonder if the tip you are using i too smal for the wire it could be that the wire is expanding due to the heat and jamming in the tip. Also, I seem to remembering 0.6 wire for automorive use

[@GadgetUK164]

Excellent work Vince! Hopefully this will be reliable and pass the MOT on that point! As you say, its a + just based on the new cap and stuff! How you managed to weld in that space....

[@Mymatevince]

Fingers crossed Chris, thank you👍

[@razeris3519]

Soul Reaver 555 reminds me of the game I used to play for Dreamcast called Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver.

[@michaelproust7891]

That explanation by RR is right: all you have to do is adjust the technique for the broken - rusty. With that considered it is now a simple, Swing-Arm Spring- Removal :(research Datsun 510), "Rear Spring Removal", so easy... but you are way more entertaining.

[@Tim_3100]

You have so got this vince

[@rockubtzer]

Rather than buy the RR tool, you could buy threaded rod, cut it to length you need just be sure to get the hardest rod, nuts & washers offered. For added security weld two or more nuts together then weld them to the bottom of the threaded rod after it is cut to length to make it a long bolt. Grease the threads on the rod and two thick washers as well. Drop the two washers on to rod so they rest on the nuts welded to the rod then feed it up through your spring and tighten to compress it. the more bolts you weld together the less likely it will be to strip the threads on the nuts or rod. You can use a deep socket ratchet tool to avoid breaking the welds between the stack of nuts. I'd have dug a hole in Dads driveway so I could have stood in it to do all that welding! Then told him... I think you have a mole in your yard Dad.