Before I get to my next analysis, I made this short silly video where I poke fun at some exaggerated Dream SMP Characters. Please don't take it too seriously! Should I make a part 2 about other Dream SMP apologists? If this video gets a lot of likes I will! Also If you enjoy it please like and subscribe as I'd truly appreciate it. :)
@puppens1013 жыл бұрын
It was a really good video, ty for making it! 💜
@user-vr1kt6oc2m3 жыл бұрын
It was a really good video, ty for making it! 💜
@ingsocredacted86543 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think part 2 would be cool
@Voxet13 жыл бұрын
Jschlatt apologists when
@gremlinfifty23083 жыл бұрын
Not accurate technoblade apologists dont apologize were too elitist for that
@wonderouscrow3 жыл бұрын
as a Techno Apologist i must say, *Never before I have been so offended by something I 100% agree with*
@froggers89453 жыл бұрын
hmmmmmmmmm now where have i seen this beforeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@savvyrodriguez94183 жыл бұрын
SAAAAAME
@kassiaactuallydraws93613 жыл бұрын
SAME
@infiniterandomstuff52033 жыл бұрын
Same here
@louzo51753 жыл бұрын
S a n e
@merraso23803 жыл бұрын
“You like this character? They’ve done bad things!” Tommy, Philza, and Wilbur fans: writes a 5 page essay about why they were justified Techno fans: “it’s part of the charm” Dream fans: “BUT LOOK HOW SAD HE IS” shows clip of teletubby throwing a tantrum
@scrawls3 жыл бұрын
everyone on the server >>>>>> dream jk dream is cool too just wanna make fun of him loool
@vincentvalashu3 жыл бұрын
How can you really blame the life of the party for bringing the fireworks? Look at his chat during the 'sad' times, they were pumped, no tears and everyone was having a party! Are you an enemy of fun?!
@varia23543 жыл бұрын
Alternatively Wilbur fans: "Did you get the point of Alivebur?"
@-0m3rcy0-83 жыл бұрын
YEAH! You tryna ruin the fun?
@kaiathon3 жыл бұрын
"it's part of the charm" Hell yea it is BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD BABEEE
@ingsocredacted86543 жыл бұрын
Schlatt apologists: Schlatt won fair and square and didn't even cheat, whenever he needed someone they betrayed him, sure he violently executed tubbo, destroyed national landmarks, and was a raging drunk, but democracy chose him, all tommy did was do a violent insurrection, how horrible of him. Wilbur Apologists: Wilbur was an honest guy, he didn't deserve anything to happen to him, he started l'manburg for freedom and to resist oppression, not to do bad things like deal drugs. He lost his election he tried to rig and had to fight back against the horrible democractically elected leader jschlatt. but by that time it was too late so he made the hero's sacrifice and destroyed l'manburg once and for all.
@scrawls3 жыл бұрын
Ooh, maybe i should make a part 2? This is good
@nugget41393 жыл бұрын
Ooo he should make a part two with this in it
@ingsocredacted86543 жыл бұрын
@@scrawls A part 2 would be cool, wilbur schlatt eret sapnap and maybe ranboo would be who I'd put in that video, but that's just my idea.
@darcys8423 жыл бұрын
@@scrawls ranboo fundy and nicki
@ingsocredacted86543 жыл бұрын
@@scrawls I also did one for sapnap. sapnap apologists: Sapnap was just trying to be entertaining, they were only animals after all, and sapnap ended up losing his eiffel tower which is worth far more than some fox and a cow, fundy and tommy were the real bad guys, going to war over some useless animals
@cosmo84463 жыл бұрын
The Teletubby thing got me laughing so hard, maybe more than it should xD
@scrawls3 жыл бұрын
Nice! I strive to make people laugh! Glad you enjoyed :D
@azrael_morningstar3 жыл бұрын
Bill cipher
@phari48203 жыл бұрын
Me as a Tommy apologist: *Never before I have been so offended by something I 100% agree with*
@peg74393 жыл бұрын
Me as a Techno apologist: *_Fucking hell same here_*
@BayleafUpHigh3 жыл бұрын
Me as an everybody ,mentioned in this video excluding the child apologist Me 3
@celesital53113 жыл бұрын
Same 😂
@Sky-uuyeyyue3 жыл бұрын
BAGAHAHA- I'm a tommyinnit apologist but I'm not offended but this is really funny lol-
@fizzyghost33893 жыл бұрын
Me as a Techno apologist: Screw you Tommy apologists. Blood for the blood god, show no remorse.
@jandalf81283 жыл бұрын
ph1lza apologists be like: DADZA
@muya41983 жыл бұрын
YES
@jilliantenan74853 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@Saralinwashere3 жыл бұрын
YES
@jilliantenan74853 жыл бұрын
Plus I'd argue the others legit turning on him, going crazy etc would kinda..ya know make him WANT to send the message he did. He values people over what he considers objects, building etc.
@itzgalatic3 жыл бұрын
Philza = horrible dad in dsmp Philza apologist: But he had to Sure...
@inamelzvoice3 жыл бұрын
Me as an author, fascinated by the fact that almost every Dream SMP characters are really bad people, but because they are presented as complex and charismatic, can grow an incredible amount of fans to defend them, showing how the human nature can accept everything as long as they can justify it xD (And even more incredible is the fact that irl, the players behind the characters seems like a bunch of incredibly nice people!)
@scrawls3 жыл бұрын
Dream SMP characters are all morally gray in my opinion which makes them very fascinating. Even people like Dream or Schlatt have reasoning behind their actions that could be possibly justified. It just depends on who you watch and follow the perspective of. :) (And yes, its funny that even with their messed up actions, they’re all great people irl)
@inamelzvoice3 жыл бұрын
Morally grey is kind of a tricky thing, because everybody can use reasoning to justify the most horrible action you can think of, because nobody want to accept that they are the villain of their own story (I mean, I will not list the most used exemples of the human history, but I guess you all know the multiple references I can make). The only exception is, we can accept to be the villain in the eyes of the people we hate, sure, but not in our own eyes. And it's normal, it's what make us human, and we all do this on a daily basic with really little things, like telling white lies because we don't want to hurt someone, or insulting someone after they hurt our feelings. But since Dream SMP is set in a virtual univers, the little things are way out of proportion and we have on a regular basis murder, arson and torture just to name a few... So yeah, at that point, it's really difficult for me to say that it's just gray, even if I know it's in a virtual univers where big things like that have in fact little impact compare to the same crime done in the real world xD I guess that's why it's easier to pick a side and defend it in Dream SMP, because we all know that in the end, it's only a video game, and that the people behind it are nice anyway. If the same story would have been set in a realistic TV show with problematic actors, I'm not sure people would have reacted the same way... well, at least I hope so... (Oh, and sorry for my shitty grammar, yes I'm an author, but english is not my first langage, so yeah ^^')
@millyhearts3 жыл бұрын
@@scrawls Exactly!
@obsession_expert62452 жыл бұрын
@@inamelzvoice I agree so much. Technicly all of them or most opf them are really bad people for what they've done if you apply it to real life, but since its in minecraft its easier to justify it based on intention
@DrMako-jo6bf3 жыл бұрын
• New character joins • Everyone: anarchist or government? • New character reveals theirselves as Thanos • Tommy: oh fuk • Thanos: Freedom
@phari48203 жыл бұрын
New character joins: Hello everyone, I'm sure I'll have a great time her- Everyone: Ok, are you getting insane, depressed and traumatized or becoming an anarchist?
@CandyThePuppy3 жыл бұрын
XDDDDD
@matthewsokolowski843 жыл бұрын
@@phari4820 me: I'll go insane
@millyhearts3 жыл бұрын
@@phari4820 Niki and Ranboo: why not both?
@karamii91473 жыл бұрын
everyone else: arguing if tommy or techno was right woke: me following both point of views and being in absolute distraught when their relation was throw out of the window, yeah they made their own hiccups but holy hell their character's relation is so complicated that it's over looked (sincerely, from a wilbur apologist)
@kunilsen25193 жыл бұрын
True tho lmao
@melamoonclover92133 жыл бұрын
Wilbur apologists pogggg
@coledesj3 жыл бұрын
FR !! i support both tommy and techno's train of thought, and i was fuckin sad as hell when their alliance went to shit. cuz in reality, they're both wrong and right in different ways, but really neither of them are the villain.
@millyhearts3 жыл бұрын
Yeah! :D I can’t help being a Tommy apologist but I like and respect Techno too
@debkalpapal26823 жыл бұрын
Ph1Lza fricked a fridge Gave birth to: Wilbur Tommy Adopted: Tubbo Ranboo Technoblade Wilbur fricked a fridge Gave birth to Fundy Techno and Ph1LzA hate Fundy,Tommy,Tubbo and Ranboo dont care Wilbur is a psycho
@pinkbarrette3 жыл бұрын
MY favourite character couldn’t POSSIBLY have any flaws! Everything is black and white and plots can’t have any nuance whatsoever.
@captainfiri76193 жыл бұрын
Zuko on your profile picture speaks louder for the irony in your comment than irony itself
@mr.trident13633 жыл бұрын
FINALLY, someone gets it! Why won't everyone just understand that I am never wrong and that everything I love is the only thing any rational person could EVER love and that anyone who disagrees just doesn't understand smh
@AmateurBluwu3 жыл бұрын
Okay, but if they wanted me to think Techno did anything wrong they're shit at writing because he literally hasn't. I haven't seen much of the Egg, but being creepy isn't a crime, Dream is auth so basically pure evil, and Tommy is that lesson about those who fight monsters for the 1502nd time
@nerasomnia3 жыл бұрын
@@AmateurBluwu Just saying, but Techno massacred innocent people at the festival. He was stressed out, but the audience were totally innocent. I wouldn’t say that was very “good” of him to do. I don’t hate him. He’s a character who has done some bad and some good. Even so, it’s ignorant to say he hasn’t done anything wrong.
@AmateurBluwu3 жыл бұрын
@internet trash Techno isn't my favorite character, but the world of the DreamSMP is too small, all the governments are too awful for his anarchism to be grey at all; that is, even in the scenario in which he wants all governments gone, which clearly isn't the case. Techno is Nuianced, he disliked Manburg because it sucked ass and tried to kill him, that's more than justified.
@nugget89673 жыл бұрын
“Now that’s how you handle disagreements”
@splayairplane34183 жыл бұрын
as a schlatt apologist im very upset my demographic wasn't included
@scrawls3 жыл бұрын
Truly disgusting that some “people” would do this horrible thing
@millyhearts3 жыл бұрын
@@scrawls AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@weebalo_3 жыл бұрын
He was a democratically elected leader. Under his rule manberg prospered and took down their walls. When wilbur was president there was nothing but conflict, and when tubbo was president he failed to kill a pacifist. Schlatt apologists rise up.
@prestest3 жыл бұрын
@@weebalo_ lmanberg was the strongest it had ever been he was the only president in the history of the country to be actually voted in by people he took down ugly ass buildings to replace them with productive offices and even the spy of pogtopia who knew full well he would face consequences if caught admitted the economy was doing better, all hail the emperor
@prestest3 жыл бұрын
but even after all that you still can’t hate him because he lowered taxes and made all the water fountains Hawaiian Punch, if you don’t like low taxes and Hawaiian Punch fountains are you even a human being
@crystallxix14933 жыл бұрын
Every character can be considered not evil. All except Connoreatsplants of course. That guy's a straight up psycho puppeteer, the pure embodiment of evil. I challenge anyone to be an apologist for him.
@franklinbalani43063 жыл бұрын
He did nothing wrong
@crystallxix14933 жыл бұрын
@@franklinbalani4306 thats what he wants you to think
@alexp60133 жыл бұрын
@@franklinbalani4306 He stole Tommy's house, so that's why we are so justified in doing this
@MrcreeperDXD7773 жыл бұрын
argument against connor apologists: conar eats pants
@roseswonderland87573 жыл бұрын
I could be a good Dream apoloist if you want
@michaellammey25433 жыл бұрын
Techno apologists be like: L’Manburg wasn’t even that pog lol Source: I’m a Techno Apologist
@bugmanenjoyer3 жыл бұрын
Additional source: dude trust me
@randomwhocares43203 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@redacted57953 жыл бұрын
Same
@mr.trident13633 жыл бұрын
TECHNO GANG RISE UP
@sperenox3 жыл бұрын
@@bugmanenjoyer another source: Yeahhhhhh.....
@froggerswamp3 жыл бұрын
This video really called me out as a philza/Techno apologist,damn 😔👊
@mitsunitaiko17423 жыл бұрын
same as a Tommy apologist don't fight me pls I had enough fighting for the week XD
@azrael_morningstar3 жыл бұрын
@@mitsunitaiko1742 TOMMYMYYY BETRAYYYED TECHNOOOO. EVEN ORIGINAL WILBUR WAS WITH TECHNO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
@thecupidintraining3 жыл бұрын
i get the vibe that some people don’t realize u can like a character without agreeing with their actions lol
@c4ntt4k33 жыл бұрын
People like that are people I can't describe with words, like actually I'm not joking.
@ShilohBluecube3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah I love Dream’s character, even if he is a horrible person lmao
@millyhearts3 жыл бұрын
Mhm! :] Techno is a badass character, even though I don’t agree with his ideals or actions
@c4ntt4k33 жыл бұрын
@@millyhearts Same, I don't agree with all of techno's ideals but his character is written decently. Though his character does fall flat since unlike other people on the SMP he doesn't really roleplay even during "lore" streams
@mayyo29253 жыл бұрын
tommy is a character in which all of his fans must endure his questionable behavior if not actions lmao
@DEMO256593 жыл бұрын
BBH apologists be like : BBH is such a nice guy, and he sacrificed himself for his bestfriend to save him from the egg, sure he wanted to create an eternal war between Pogtopia and Manburg that would possibly lead to both of their destruction just because it would beneficial to his faction, is now running a cult and is willing to kill anyone that gets in a way of his plans just because he wanted to selfishly be with his best friend at the cost of everyone's safety. But I mean, who could hate this little muffin head ?
@ConnorDrawss3 жыл бұрын
I've been called out once again, damn
@alovelydeadfish3 жыл бұрын
I mean isn't that the egg influencing him
@DEMO256593 жыл бұрын
@@alovelydeadfish Yes he is partially influenced by the egg but that's not what I mean. He made the active choice of choosing the egg to be with Skeppy and also him wanting Pogtopia and Manburg to be in an eternal war was before the egg even showed up. My man was already a villain before the egg, the egg just made him act out more vilolently.
@alovelydeadfish3 жыл бұрын
@@DEMO25659 true
@froggers89453 жыл бұрын
O W O WHATS THIS
@cupidire86713 жыл бұрын
Ok fr though, extreme Techno apologists think he did nothing wrong just because anarchy is his "belief." Just because it's a belief doesn't excuse the fact that he blew up an entire country with a homeless teletubby.
@michaellammey25433 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest, I haven’t seen anyone with that mentality. It’s more that the government tried to repress that belief when he left that nation, and how L’Manburg is kind of corrupt. But you’re right, just because it’s a belief doesn’t make it an excuse. The same applies to L’Manburg for hunting down a refugee due to a complicated betrayal.
@feister28693 жыл бұрын
I don’t like that people are seeing anarchism in the dream smp as a undefeated philosophy cause it’s not
@rinisafool3 жыл бұрын
@@michaellammey2543 l’manburg under wilbur and schlatt’s rule was pretty shit, i’ll give you that. but tubbo genuinely cared about seeing the nation thrive, it was QUACKITY who wanted to hunt down techno (who at this point still had hundreds of wither skulls and weapons) in the name of justice. tubbo’s l’manburg had no interest in forcing it’s citizens to stay or do anything they didn’t want to, no oppressive government actions were taking place.
@connorschultz3803 жыл бұрын
@@rinisafool you know- besides the whole exile thing ignoring his own cabinet to do so. Tubbo might have thought it was the right decision, but the fact doomsday happened later just proved ever working with dream wasn't the right decision and would have never worked.
@fer_orz3 жыл бұрын
The egg apologists took me by surprise lmao
@chamitoempire16723 жыл бұрын
Oh dont worry manslaughter is perfectly fine as long as you have a lot of subscribers!
@scrawls3 жыл бұрын
destroying a nation poooooggggg
@kateisnotgreat343 жыл бұрын
I somehow managed to read manslaughter as lmanburger and I'm starting to question how tired I am lmao
@chamitoempire16723 жыл бұрын
@@kateisnotgreat34 lmanburgers sounds like a fast food chain
@kassiaactuallydraws93613 жыл бұрын
@@chamitoempire1672 Now i would eat things from there all the time if it was real
@millyhearts3 жыл бұрын
@@kassiaactuallydraws9361 same
@miquelmartinezdemorentinca17153 жыл бұрын
George apologists be like: did i miss something while i slept?
@satur9mars3 жыл бұрын
They are apoligizing that they slept through it 😃
@tsunamieaqua35602 жыл бұрын
They are apologizing that George dreams because he misses his old friendships before Tommy. Most notably his friendship with Dream 😂
@Mari-ns3ki3 жыл бұрын
Technoblade and TommyInnit apologists: 💀 🔪 🩸 🥀 💣 🌑 Dream apologists: **blob is blob**
@mofthemoth57553 жыл бұрын
Since we're talking about apologists, can I just say being a Tommy apologist, a Tubbo apologist AND a Technoblade apologist is VERY tricky but somehow I manage :/
@mydearhelix3 жыл бұрын
I'm only an apologist to people for reasons like techno and philza, more philza though lol
@kittypeanut41023 жыл бұрын
I'm a Tommy apologist.
@Animallover246783 жыл бұрын
im an apologist for everyone except c!Dream
@mofthemoth57553 жыл бұрын
@@Animallover24678 I'm sympathiser for everyone that isn't C! Dream. High five :D
@Animallover246783 жыл бұрын
@@mofthemoth5755 🙏
@kisu_19193 жыл бұрын
Dream apologists: Look how cute he looks! 💖💓💗 How can anyone that cute be evil? Dream: *I literally manipulated minors and tried to steal everybody's key item so I have full control over them and the entire server* Dream apologists: N'aww who's our favorite manipulator, you are, you are!! 💓💗💗💓
@IndigoViolet311 Жыл бұрын
As a Dream apologist... I would love to argue, but I have to agree lmao
@areldyperez8446 Жыл бұрын
* _whispering in Dream Apologist_ * he didn't though... he was missing a bunch of items and the vault confrontacion was staged...
@WixenBurr3 жыл бұрын
Lol nice. blood for the blood god skulls for the skull throne. Not an apologist XDD i just like techno the best and all the murdering is lit. Hes not a good guy, we love an antihero.
@scrawls3 жыл бұрын
:) ty
@deadchannel19433 жыл бұрын
The major difference here is that Techno actually has a few reasons to do bad stuff. Most villains have like 1 thing or just no reasons like Dream and the disks. Schlatt with no reason and Wilbur with wanting to destroy Manburg. That is something that not a lot of people actually look into. Techno is an anti-hero
@Xeno5743 жыл бұрын
@@deadchannel1943 An antagonist IS Neutral. A villian is an overall evil person.
@deadchannel19433 жыл бұрын
@@Xeno574 an antagonist is a villain. A protagonist is a hero. A villain is a villain. And an anti-hero is neutral
@Xeno5743 жыл бұрын
@@deadchannel1943 No. Antagonist is usually a person that stands in the way of the protagonist and isn't necessarily evil. But they can be. For example, Dragon Ball Super's Jiren is an antagonist. Due to the fact that he's fighting Son Goku(The protagonist) for the protection of his own universe. And Son Goku is also fighting for his universe (if you haven't watched DBS then you'll be confused and I'm not really gonna explain.) But yeah. Jiren is not evil. But since he is standing in the way of the protagonist, he is an antagonist. A villian is a man who is evil. He does not care for anything but destruction and suffering. A villian cannot be sympathized with as they do bad things. Meanwhile the actions of an antagonist can be understood and can be sympathized with. Nowadays media only really uses Antagonists and any actually evil antagonist is considered a bad final boss which is wrong. An antagonist can also be a "villian" but with good intentions and goals and their way of achieving those goals is wrong. Thus, conflict between the protagonist, who wants to protect people from the antagonist's actions, and the Antagonist who wants to do the right thing but doesn't know that the way he's trying to do that good thing is wrong begins. For example, Assassin's Creed. The conflict between the Assassins and Templars is just that. Templars want order and peace which is a good thing but to do that they want to control the whole world. The Assassins also want a good thing which is freedom and peace but Templars want control and peace. Thus, conflict between the two begins. I hope you understand. An antagonist is usually not 'evil' and if someone is evil they can be called an antagonist but they're really just a villian.
@theoreogalaxy96113 жыл бұрын
In the wise words of James Acaster, never have I been so offended by something I one hundred percent agree with.
@someguy68623 жыл бұрын
God bless James Acaster
@millyhearts3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love James Acaster :D
@mioakem48793 жыл бұрын
I will just say this and nothing else Techno did nothing wrong Tommy did nothing wrong Tubbo did nothing wrong Wilbur did nothing wrong Phil did nothing wrong Ranboo did nothing wrong And that's it
@franklinbalani43063 жыл бұрын
Tommy did nothing wrong
@zairahnaz78313 жыл бұрын
Wilbur - guess blowing up a fucking country ain't bad.
@mioakem48793 жыл бұрын
@@zairahnaz7831 yes, it is not
@zairahnaz78313 жыл бұрын
@@mioakem4879 how?????????? Don't get me wrong, I love wilburs character, but blowing up a country isn't a noble/good thing.
@millyhearts3 жыл бұрын
I mean in my opinion it’s literally the exact opposite but ok.
@adelefurness40213 жыл бұрын
M, a Techno apologist; "I mean yeah he's done bad things, but it's part of his charm lmao"
@TheOrcKatari3 жыл бұрын
Blood for the blood god amirite
@xrefed3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOrcKatari yea
@secretlyditto77163 жыл бұрын
As I was watching the video and you got to the part where you said, “Technoblade did nothing wrong” I got a notification from Tommy on Twitter with no context saying, “shut up man” PFFFFFFFT
@lovebugz.9763 жыл бұрын
You can't be a techno apologist. There's nothing he needs to apologize for.
@deadchannel19433 жыл бұрын
He had so many reasons to actually destroy government
@lovebugz.9763 жыл бұрын
@@deadchannel1943 exactly
@franklinbalani43063 жыл бұрын
There are allot of things for why he's wrong actually
@lovebugz.9763 жыл бұрын
@@franklinbalani4306 that's the fucking joke sherlock, technoblade apologists don't think technoblade did wrong things, so they say he has nothing to apologize for.
@whyyukii3 жыл бұрын
@@lovebugz.976 yep
@ConnorDrawss3 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail already called me out, damn.
@mayyo29253 жыл бұрын
tbh it was just a struggle when suddenly u had to choose between being on tommys side or technos its like bruv neither of em are *right*
@radiant_dayz3 жыл бұрын
Other Ranboo apologists: He's a child and is being manipulated by Dream! Just let him not chose sides and live in peace :( he did nothing wrong! Me a Ranboo apologist: He just committed war crimes in his sleep I don't get the big deal 🙄 like smh the government is so soft ❄
@rinisafool3 жыл бұрын
SO TRUE !! sometimes he goes into a sleepwalk state and commits atrocities, let the boy live
@radiant_dayz3 жыл бұрын
@@rinisafool yes exactly! Let my man enjoy himself a bit like damn 🙄
@Mel_TheBudgie3 жыл бұрын
The egg apologists was the best part, then there's the dream apologists right after!?! Lol my lord! That makes me laugh so much! The egg apologists being creepy af, then there's the homeless Teletubbie
@lynk25723 жыл бұрын
The egg part genuinely freaked me out a bit, GOOD JOB!!
@dontlookatme63953 жыл бұрын
Whats funny about the disc part for Tommy is that a lot of Tommy apologists cant stand him obsessing over the discs anymore, including me lmao i just want to see them burn at this point This video is hilarious i cant stop laughing for some reason
@scrawls3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah thats true
@quarth93963 жыл бұрын
one thing cool about how you described techno's character, its what makes him so interesting, not because he's a good person, but because it makes sense for him to see the government as he does. what you said there is not just how tehcno's biggest fans see him, but how his character sees the smp. he's not justified for what he's done, but you can see how he would think they way he thinks because of what happened to him from his point of view you know how in the jrwi podcast that slimecicle dm'd called "convergence" he invited wilber one episode and he said that he has been a lifelong dm for years at this point? the smp starts to kind of make sense when you consider that lol
... I'm slowly getting the feeling that I'm maybe, just maybe, apologizing most characters' way of thinking. Not because I agree that what they did was necessarily right, but because I can get behind why they did it. We're at a point in the storyline where nearly everyone did something that would be considered very, very morally questionable, and depending on whose viewpoint you share, you will interpret the characters' actions differently. I think part of the charm of the Dream SMP is that you can change perspectives and get a different take on the plot. It's weird, but sometimes, you will start to sympathize with multiple characters, even although they assume completely different positions in a conflict. It comes down to seeing the humanity in them, I suppose. I think that Tommy probably shouldn't have gotten into fights that weren't necessary, shouldn't have been so rude, shouldn't have caused as much chaos and destruction as he did, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have the right to be treated with respect or to express himself or to feel betrayed. I am not saying that he shouldn't suffer the consequences of his actions simply because he is a child or because he is good-hearted, but I do agree that he's already been punished enough (especially after the emotional abuse Dream put him through), and that he is entitled to his own happiness and peace. I think that Techno probably shouldn't have spilled as much blood as he did, shouldn't have been as drastic and harsh in his pursuit of anarchy as he was, but I understand that it's hard for him to refrain from violence because of the voices, I understand why he would want L'Manburg to go down after all the pain it caused and I understand he was angered by the fact that Tubbo's regime hunted him down despite him wanting to live a peaceful life. Just because he's a powerful fighter, it doesn't mean that he cannot feel peer pressure or that he can't be heart-broken, and while that doesn't give him an excuse to blow up everyone's home or to kill people, I still hope that he finds people that genuinely care for him, simply because being objectified all the time must hurt a lot. If wanting them to be treated as fallible people with emotions means that I'm both a Tommy and Techno apologist then fine, I'll take it. You're probably right, anyways.
@pikloo46313 жыл бұрын
Yeah, now that I think about it, everybody has done something pretty bad and something pretty good. Except Ranboo. He hasn't been part of the plot long enough to screw up.
@deadchannel19433 жыл бұрын
He did cause some minor terrorism while he was asleep
@shroom94763 жыл бұрын
@@deadchannel1943 hey, if you look at the massive wars other people made, minor terrorism is nothing. think about it.
@deadchannel19433 жыл бұрын
@@shroom9476 I know, I was just saying one bad thing he did. Also, doesn’t mean that if other worse stuff happened the other not as bad stuff don’t matter.
@shroom94763 жыл бұрын
@@deadchannel1943 ... it was a joke. I guess i cant blame you for taking it seriously, it's kinda hard to joke with typring.
@deadchannel19433 жыл бұрын
@@shroom9476 the only thing you can really do is add /j but that kinda ruins it
@_HAN_663 жыл бұрын
01:02 "Tommy was exiled and... " *shows Technoblade* "i s o l a t e d" Lol
@lemonix58933 жыл бұрын
Techno apologists 🤝 Tommy apologists: Supporting crime when the criminal is funny
@samuelbott61043 жыл бұрын
I love how the The Egg apologists be like was a legitimately unsettling work of horror that would not be out of place in something like the SCP foundation and then the Dream apologists be like is just “look how sad he is :)”
@poltegeist12263 жыл бұрын
"I bet he misses gogy" 😭😭😂😂😂😂😭😭😂😂😭😭
@rainy99743 жыл бұрын
as a hardcore tommy apologist, i was *laughing.* it’s so true lmao i’ve seen essays like that but i can’t help but be one of the tommy apologists, he’s just great :’) (techno fans don’t attack me, techno is also completely justified and i like his character a lot)
@starrkatcherr3 жыл бұрын
*t e c h n o d i d n o t h i n g w r o n g* *slowly looks at the hole he made*
@stevjiro3 жыл бұрын
Me, a philza apologist: Phew! He didn’t say anything about the philza apologists, guess i’m in the clear. . . . OHHHH- He’s the dude that made a whole video on why philza is broken and justified.. Yeah, i’m subscribing. :)
@razkanaz3 жыл бұрын
I love how tommyinnit and technoblade has real arguments, while dream is just "awww he's so cute!!!!"
@dispydotjpeg3 жыл бұрын
uve either eliminated a bunch of apologists, or created a mass amount of new ones
@mrflipkin59993 жыл бұрын
I didn’t like the egg at first but then I learned to love it
The egg apoligists were previously invited to Lake Laogai
@sin93463 жыл бұрын
I'm not even an apologist I just love extremely flawed characters LMAO
@sin93463 жыл бұрын
and lets be honest EVERY character in the SMP is so morally gray, like...
@Fuzzle_Buzzle3 жыл бұрын
I feel so informed man, this was gold 👌 I'm definitely leaning towards being a Techno/Philza apologist, but not really for their actions (cause they did a lot of inexcusable bad shit) but for their beliefs. I feel the need to justify a lot of things about them because although they're destructive, they are far from evil or villainous. And yeah, poor Tommy man. He's a traumatized child. And I feel the need to stress that sometimes because so many characters wanna game-end him, and I'm like "dude he's just a kid, calm down" but at the same time, I find it extremely annoying that Tommy can shift from being a reliable comrade to a dunce lacking basic common sense. Dream just sucks. He may have been nice once, and I acknowledge that Tommy kinda ruined what Dream was trying to achieve with his SMP, but he's just a meanie head who finds pleasure in manipulating children. I also think I might be a little bit of an Eret apologist. Nobody talks about Eret except how he fucked everyone over that one time. ONE TIME. After that, he became such a lad of a character and no one pays attention to him. Sad day.
@scrawls3 жыл бұрын
Lots of facts being spit in this one comment. I also agree about Eret! Might do an analysis on him to give his character some more recognition
@Fuzzle_Buzzle3 жыл бұрын
@@scrawls YES please I beg of thee, give attention to our benevolent king 👑
@pizzac59313 жыл бұрын
I lost it at blood for the blood god. *proud techno apologist*
@MeepBeepBeep3 жыл бұрын
"Ruthless, disgusting, sad little-" Me: Pissbaby "Teletubbie" Me: That works too-
@aweirdoontheinternet85433 жыл бұрын
You forgot the “techno did nothing wrong because it was fun to watch”
@floofyboo3 жыл бұрын
Dream apologists be like : but he's hot when he curses🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
@hazelnethalen3 жыл бұрын
Tommy’s apocalyest be like : “ tommy did nothing wrong “ Also them “ tommy is brash and did bad things and also betrayed techno like 12 times “
@mysticmystery89353 жыл бұрын
the egg apologists scare me.. Yes BBH I'm talking to you-
@TiredCatto13 жыл бұрын
Me being a tommy and techno apologists: damn this accurate as hell-
@cloudiialt33103 жыл бұрын
I believe the egg is spreading Beauty over the Smp and everyone loves the egg and just don’t know it yet.
@c4ntt4k33 жыл бұрын
😀🤚
@catshark68223 жыл бұрын
I mean all the apologists except the egg ones (Frick the Egg) are right at certain points examples: Tommy is a child, Techno should have had a just trail, and Dream is now a sad boi.
@shuakeyuri_3 жыл бұрын
c!dream apologists: Ik he committed a lot of crimes but he was hot doing it... Look at him!! He is traumatizing people so hot
@crystalwaters75733 жыл бұрын
"I will turn the Geneva Convention into a checklist" is the least threatening an actual threat can be, and it has some of the most terrifying implications.
@snarls37603 жыл бұрын
Being a techno apoligist and tommy apoligist can be harder than most jobs
@nyom63783 жыл бұрын
HAHHAAH, bruuuh, the "do you want speedrun music sweetie? Do do do do". I chuckled
@giggycresent27583 жыл бұрын
me as a techno apologist: never before have i been so offend by something i 60% agree with
@TheAdvertisement3 жыл бұрын
Tommy: _Does childish things that he goes through an entire character arc where he realizes he was childish at the end._ Apologists: Look at him still to his morals how mature! :3
@johnplays76003 жыл бұрын
Tubbo apologists be like: tubbo did nothing wrong. Everyone says tubbo chose his nation over tommy, but I'd like to remind you tommy was apart of that nation. dream would've killed everyone if tubbo didn't exile tommy. Sure he created nuclear warheads, which can probably only end in someone getting hurt, but I'm sure he won't hurt anyone with them. *TUBBO THREATENS TO NUKE LAS NEVADAS* Ummm... Tubbo in a box what will he do?
@ajb42303 жыл бұрын
technoblade trueists: BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!
@Bailey_Dreamfoot3 жыл бұрын
What im taking away from this is most of the apologists are not okay
@hufflepufflez32933 жыл бұрын
*stares quietly at technoblade apologists and Tommy apologists* yes. I am both.
@JefimijaStosic3 жыл бұрын
But the fact that the Dream one was explained in 4 seconds and with that said everything, really got me XD
@justalula71513 жыл бұрын
As a Tommy apologist this is kinda funny yet true that it hurts me and as a Tubbo apologist I'mma add an argument for him. Tubbo mostly did what he saw as objectively right. When he was made president he did his very best. His mistakes can be chalked up to mostly hes always been in a position where he had to listen to a higher up and this was the first time he had to decide on his own. He was just too trusting. He did his best for the country he eveb chose L'manburg over his best friend. He didn't have a choice. They couldn't afford to fight another war. Him trying to be on good terms with Dream good on paper but would've proved to be beneficial if he didn't have any ulterior motives. Quackity was the one to suggest the execution of Technoblade and of all people Tubbo executing Techno would've been totally understandable. He did after all destroyed his country and killed him before.Tubbo didn't mean for everything to get out of hand. Most of his decisions were all good on paper (except the festival). Thats the thing he chooses seemingly objectively right choices. If you were put in his situation, you would probably do the same. (just forget your any apologist and look at it from his POV) You've been made to either kick your best friend out or have your country go into war again just as it just recovered. You've been given the chance to execute the man who destroyed your country and killed you. You strained your friendship by exiling your best friend since you had no real choice and you're barely taken seriously by your people. You're regarded as a pawn and accessory to your best friend. Also hes just a kid. (I don't know of this makes sense but its 3am and I habe to sleep now.)
@unlimitedanxiety85703 жыл бұрын
Ha. Fool. I am an ALL apologist.
@scrawls3 жыл бұрын
epic.
@shapeswitch_mood72213 жыл бұрын
Wait, this is an accurate analysis of Techno's actions, what the heck I thought it was meant to be satire-
@cynder65962 жыл бұрын
Tommy apologists: hes just a kid! Dream apologists: he did it for the server. Techno apologists: techno was very open with his ideals of blowing up lmanburg the first and second time and tommy just _had_ to go back to tubbo, the guy who exiled him. Sure most things he did weren't good for the protagonist (tommy, i assume) but i find it annoying how many times he was betrayed and villainized. Tubbo apologists: tommy was being unfair and tubbo was always left behind. Tubbo did what he had to do for the country. Let me know if you want me to write more and if the current ones are accurate enough. And yes, i am a techno and tubbo apologist. And slightly schlatt for who knows what reason lmao
@marcelathacat27393 жыл бұрын
As an Egg apologist, by the end of the era there will be nothing left. We will have no need for further human emotion. Supported and unified by the one true egg. Red. A shade of red shall overtake that which mortals call the earth. Worldly items, worldly wants, when the egg is in control there will be no need for anything. The end. The end of pain, the end of joy, the end of suffering, the end of want, the end of need, the end of war, the end of love. The apotheosis is upon us. Forget what you know, forget all you've seen, all you've felt, or heard, or done. Allow the Red to overtake you, to rule your mind. It is necessary to overcome the blitzes that mortality has caused, the glimpses of a world now lost to human emotions and mortal freedom. Forget. Succumb.
@PattPlays3 жыл бұрын
I love the theories that Dream is isolating safely away from the Egg.
@lorekeeper6853 жыл бұрын
I always thought, Techno is a hurricane.
@eilo_forrest29253 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that I can pick out things that I agree with in each, sometimes more than others, but some of the arguments I was just like “omg that’s not at alll trueeee” I think that I have characters that I agree with more, just because of where my stance and opinion is on the things that’s happening, but I don’t think all of them are completely in the right. Every character could have not done something, handled something better, but I will agree on the main reasoning for that. (Haha not me, dyslexic, writing a whole paragraph on a joke video, sooooo not meeeee, yaaaa 😅) (Edit: except for the second to last one and the last one, hmmmmmmm, questionable)
@kewl48933 жыл бұрын
Ranboo apologist: He protecc He attacc But most importantly *he forget*
@gray-thesilverquill3 жыл бұрын
Me, a Techno apologist: In his defense, it was pretty funny.
@bignono24393 жыл бұрын
Even though this video is tagged satire, it depicts the twitter fandom for smp perfectly. This says a lot about the society
@CreatorProductionsOriginal3 жыл бұрын
It went from 0 to 10 really quickly
@aicutora8183 жыл бұрын
Am I considered a techno apologist when I can see his flaws and mistakes but still embrace the chaos? That I happily take his side regardless of what he does just because he is my favorite. That he can burn the entire server to the ground and I would still be right beside every other voice chanting Blood for the Blood God! Honestly he could end everything and I would laugh with glee and follow him to the next battle freely. I'm not going to make apologies on his behalf. I just enjoy the Madness.
@scrawls3 жыл бұрын
No, I think based in that you’re just a Techno fan
@gayanudugampola89733 жыл бұрын
I love Technoblade as an anti villain! Woo more destruction and choas! Technoblade's done so much crime and terror that it really does fit him.
@baileythewitchofvoid87843 жыл бұрын
As a Tubbo apologist, I fear part 2
@scrawls3 жыл бұрын
Tubbo in a box, what will he do? Perhaps some war crimes?
@caisearle3 жыл бұрын
I think all of the characters have done bad things, and I think that's what makes them human. I dont think it's right to say that techno and tommy didnt wrong ever. Like they've both done terrible things but they are still great characters so its dumb to not accept their flaws and mistakes since that makes the characters who they are.
@swanstarr14413 жыл бұрын
fundy apologists: fundy was traumatized by being abandoned by his father, and an crimes he comitted under the schlatt administration was just peer pressure, can you blame a man for following orders?
@caroleisvibing3 жыл бұрын
As a part Tommy, Techno, Ranboo, and Awesamdude apologist, I HAVE SAID SO MANY OF THOSE THINGS ITS SAD- Also as I type this I get the notification that Ranboo is streaming lmao
@c4ntt4k33 жыл бұрын
Damn you're a different breed. I've never seen a techno apologist also be a Tommy apologist and vice versa
@caroleisvibing3 жыл бұрын
@@c4ntt4k3 yea- Most of the time I’m just a Techno apologist, but I say things like “Tommy is just a kid he doesn’t need to be put through this” or “Tommy’s mental health was thrown down the drain and so many people betrayed him” all the time when talking lore And then I’ll go “Well, Techno didn’t do anything wrong” and “they only treated him as an object, what he did to destroy L’Manburg freed all of them” But yea- I’m an apologist for a lot of people
@Overorigami3 жыл бұрын
Literally every Dream apologist is someone who doesnt watch the smp but saw a clip of him in prison once
@feister28693 жыл бұрын
But he sad he so cute he can’t be that bad and even if he is bad he probably changed :D
@Overorigami3 жыл бұрын
@@feister2869 :|
@feister28693 жыл бұрын
Overorigami_ what :D
@n0tpersephone3 жыл бұрын
as a tommy apologist this really called me out lmaoo
@scrawls3 жыл бұрын
sorry lol. im partially a tommy apologist as well
@tisa37bokun573 жыл бұрын
I'm a Tommy apologist and i have never been that exposed in my intire life
@mitsunitaiko17423 жыл бұрын
as a Tommy apologist, and someone who took many Technoblade apologists in the face, I can say this is pretty accurate XD
@shanawilson92483 жыл бұрын
Every character on the smp are both heroes and villains. They have their own ideology and philosophy, that contradict other peoples opinions. Each person's ideology is valid and right. But you cant be an apologist of one character without hating another. Everyone does something horrific for what they see as valid and good intentions. No one is truly innocent, not even tommy. Sure hes a child and deserves a childhood but hes manipulated other characters without even realising it. Sure phil didnt act like a farther figure to tommy but he was never his dad. Phil had no obligation to take that role for him.
@No_Longer_Demi3 жыл бұрын
As a c!Dream apologist from Twitter. We hate c!George. Lol. We have our reasons. We have talked about it. We're pretty chill people as long as you don't piss one of us off. We also have lots of beef when it comes to dsmp tiktok and Tommy apologist. We've been attack. So we hit y'all back with facts. Lol.
@dxmb_aquarius3 жыл бұрын
Me being a c!techno and c!tommy apologist: Dont lie to yourself your a c!ranboo apologist too-