Dress Shirt Collars Ranked Casual to Formal - Club, Point, Wing and between | Shirt Collars 101

[@Fflovver]

The king has returned

[@scottd.3382]

Excellent job, Jon (as always). Great to see you here!

[@brandonbandstra226]

Such an enjoyable presentation. Thank you for making a video where you don't yell at the camera like other fashion youtubers

[@The_Kavalier]

That's my thing!

[@eldavis3084]

Le Kavalier is here!

[@chrisduda]

Learned something new today. Good to see you are back.

[@eddieb.klighton9398]

I really appreciate your videos. It helps me a lot with my own sense of style

[@zoolookers]

I strongly disagree with you on the Club Collar. It was designed by highly educated and upper-class society. You putting the botton down collar above it almost scares me tbh

[@jacklachlangill8935]

But it was designed by highly educated and upper-class society for casual occasions

[@JesusPedroParada]

For playing Polo no?

[@xcmvp2007]

Thanks John. About to start getting into custom dress clothes. This helps me pick out the collar. Maybe a video on lengths could be helpful. Pants break length, rise on pants, top button placement on dress shirts, collar size, etc.

[@The_Kavalier]

Great idea Cordell! Will add to the list

[@josephsmith2634]

Glad to see you back again!

[@stevensoffer7568]

Hi Jon. Great to have you back in my KZbin recommendations. What are your favorite brands for spread collars?

[@The_Kavalier]

I've focused so much on MTM brands anymore it would just be someone like Oliver Wicks, Ratio, or Woodies

[@bencruz7906]

Dude thank you!!! For your website I appreciate your help it makes it a lot easier

[@javierdiazsantana]

When i think of a shirt collar i always imagine a 1970's Brooks leather jacket, huge pointed collars with snaps so the wind on the bike won't shake it around. Mr. Terry Mitchell has a couple of nice vids on those, mustard yellow ones if you are interested. I have always liked this kinda 1970's collar styles, very wide, shirt open and the collar above the jacket, but i do also recognize it looks very cheesy nowadays. Maybe pull it off with a denim on denim (I like to wear that even thou it's not adviced) of the same color and a nice contrasting plaid shirt, or stuff like that. I do now own several of this collars, and i thank you for the explanation on them. I had worn cutaway collars with a navy suit and black brogue shoes, pretty nice combo. Paisley tie as well in burgundy / purple, pretty darn good look. I like either the button down or forward point collars a lot since they're kind of in the middle between casual and formal, to me a light blue shirt with button down looks pretty nice as a casual staple, kinda brings together the outfit. Match some nice suede brogues and DAMN! I had also forgotten i have a wing collar shirt, pops gave it to me along a couple of bowties in burgundy. Great look for concerts (I am a cellist and guitarist) I actually also like this type of collar a lot for a leather jacket. Does a great job for protecting against rain, (Provided, the jacket is waxed or oiled so it is protected against moisture) I don't like them that much for cold wind since the large flaps of leather freeze out with it and for that, i like better either a shierling lined jacket or a band collar one, but for rain, a double rider jacket or a moto vintage is the best garment there is for me, the double rider has a single flaw for me which is having a hole in the chest area where cold can go into the body whilst the center zipper ones usually get damaged in the zipper area, the front pockets are hard to reach if they're cut straight and not angled, and make kind of a boner - look since good leather is rigid off the rack, hence i like the double rider / biker / Perfecto thing more, just a matter of using a good layer underneath like plaid and having the jacket fitted and the main zipper go all the way up so it protects the body in the best way possible. Greetings

[@adams3724]

About the wing collars, I've been so far reading that wearing ties with them is outrageous. But I think that it looks really good. It was worn for example by Neville Chamberlain, Tomáš Garrigue Masaryk or Ólafur Thors.

[@ikechianyanwu8993]

I think clothing communicating is an interesting idea. I wonder if clothing can really communicate power, however. for instance, I read the pin collar as communicating precision, attention to detail, and realizing that the small things add up. many powerful people do not exhibit these qualities, however. Limitless' story proves it through the final antagonist's demise

[@dirpapa]

i know this is defying usual conventions and some may look down on this, but personally when putting together outfits, club collar is much more formal, and i would put in between spread collar and tab collar.

[@davidcraggs3770]

I like the forward point collar and the pin collar shirts. However, there is nothing wrong or out of place to wear these styles fully buttoned up without a tie. In the UK a lot of guys including myself sport that look. It’s called the “Invisible Tie” look, a style worn by Ryan Gosling. I wear it all the time, but never go “Open Neck” .

[@vidster7]

Spread is my go to

[@JoeNewman-c4c]

I think a cutaway collar looks great without a tie under a nice suit jacket

[@spencerlee7852]

Wing collars are also good for ascot cravats, and wearing them with a necktie makes you look like an early 20th-century butler. There's also a collar even more formal than the wing collar for white tie called the imperial collar. You can see them in Downton Abbey and they're basically a wing collar without the wings/flaps, so they are super stiff and tall and uncomfortable.

[@SeeMeFlee]

Wow nice stuff! Love the website I was looking for something like that

[@aLavenderLady]

Ahh but what about a standing collar? I know that they are absolutely never worn nowadays but I feel like it would have been a cool honorable mention

[@abrarabid1740]

I was searching this kind of videos finally i got it. Nice explanation. 👍🇧🇩

[@nikkilovesrocks]

Those Cut Away collars would look nice with a tie that has a different fabric between the blade & the tail. Why are all ties solid fabric? The in lining would look nice around the neck (the tail) while contrast to the blade fabric. Do you know what I mean???

[@tripod13mc]

Bout to check out the site, that is awesome!!

[@AlbertMeza]

Always informative videos, thanks!

[@jaammuay4323]

Thanks, good info about collars. Is Forward point collar ok for Business casual dress shirts.

[@scrappymark]

Personally love the extreme spread/ cutaway on a dress shirt

[@The_Kavalier]

me too! So modern and slick when pulled off well

[@gordonmiller1]

Thanks! Learned a lot!

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Button down and spread collars are the ones I like.

[@36424567254]

agree. I hate most pointed collars (which apparently american people love) because the collar point doesn't even come close to tucking into the jacket, making the shirt look disproportionate and somehow wrong. Still, I only like button downs which have a generous roll. Spread are the easiest to get right I find (and more versatile if you wear ties often, which I don't).

[@36424567254]

You missed one rare, but imo most beatiful casual style: the "one-piece" collar. Check out e.g. Yeossal which has one of the most beatiful rendition (which they call "swallow collar")

[@theunityofknowledge2887]

Please do a sock round up from cheap to expensive - not dress socks, just regular socks. Ones to wear in the summer, running, etc. Sick of socks falling apart.

[@The_Kavalier]

In the works already 😎

[@36424567254]

Recently I actually started wearing (fairly cheap) dress socks as everyday socks, because I like the longer length and breathability of 100% cotton lisle socks. I wear them for everything but sports now. Who knows how much they will last though.

[@kevinwilson3337]

@@The_Kavalier I miss the express 1mx. Their the best

[@undecidedgenius]

Is there anyway for you to do a review of Tweedmaker or Bdtailormade (I am pretty sure they are both the same). I can not find a review by anyone that was not Tweedmaker support or anyone that I feel is being honest.

[@MBisFrenchy]

This is very handy!

[@AntPDC]

"Spread collars are not for tuxedo's"? This is incorrect. Spread collars v semi-spread (among turndown collars) are considered the more formal of the two for classic Black Tie.The spread version is more formal because its tips are hidden under the jacket lapels - be they peaked or shawl, or, God forbid, notched.

[@iwantcheesypuffs]

As someone who generally wears jeans and some form of camo shirt with redwing boots 90% of the time I really needed this. I don't own a white shirt and need this intel for some events I am invited too. Do you also have videos on shoes and suits? Thanks for the video!

[@James_Tharp]

Try the channel gentleman’s gazette

[@djgieffe]

You need to learn more about collars and dress shirts. Cheers from italy. 👋🏼

[@pieroroccaysj]

@thekavalier no matter what options I choose for the dress shirt guide, I cannot get Hockerty to populate. FYI.

[@FRD-HDD]

In The Netherlands I see the cutaway collar being advertised as a casual style, is this a faux-pas?

[@ПавелФомин-и1ж]

The return of the king

[@nimaiiikun]

where would you place a popover shirt in the formality scale, say one with a button down collar?

[@baburao103]

You didn't cover the One-piece collar or the Cooper Collar. Really vintage and distinct. yet not screaming out loud.

[@zakaria_chana]

Hi Kav will you do a giveaway of some white sneakers? I wear size 12 just like you :)

[@theunityofknowledge2887]

Is there any way for fans of the show to support your work?

[@nicktavell1900]

Is it still ok to wear a shirt with pin holes without the collar bar

[@wheres_bears1378]

Can a penny collar shirt be worn un buttoned with dark jeans?

[@ShihabscholarsschoolChittagong]

What's your collar name?

[@TheJTMcDaniel]

Wing collars are really only acceptable for white tie if they're detachable. It isn't practical to starch an attached collar to the proper degree of stiffness. Wing collars with black tie make you look like a waiter, particularly with an attached wing collar, an appearance supported by the fact that the majority of these shirts are sold by restaurant supply stores. It should probably also be noted that any bow tie worn with a wing collar needs to be sized and not adjustable, since the entire neck band is visible.

[@Javi_C]

Very informative! 😀

[@JD-ov3qo]

out of curiosity, what is your opinion on the house of Bijan? I've heard about it but am not sure what it actually is.

[@The_Kavalier]

It's a luxury clothing & fragrance brand. All very expensive but if that's worth it to you then go for it

[@NemoTheGlover]

What's a grandad collar shirt?

[@lsshvs8415]

The club collar is much more formal.

[@cadillaccasper]

Spear point collar?

[@viceverse11]

Prefer the club to the cutaway.

[@zimmerromer2501]

Do you guys know the name of the oxford shirt he's wearing?

[@The_Kavalier]

The blue one in the video is from Everlane!

[@steverocksyo]

4:47 lol TK

[@The_Kavalier]

Circa 2013!

[@carltrotter7622]

I wonder if you own any detachable starch collars (wing)

[@The_Kavalier]

No, just some MTM wing collar shirts for my limited black tie needs

[@carltrotter7622]

@@The_Kavalier if you ever want to go the stiff route, I'd recommend Darcy clothings washable shirt and collars. They are great for black and white tie.

[@1kennylo]

💯

[@ZipSeam]

Damn I'm half a foot shorter and have the same neck :/

[@dentistry-made-simple]

What? No Mafia collar? Kidding...don't whack me!

[@SIMKINYX]

I HATE cutaway! It is SO ugly!!!