Dressing Bench Grinder Wheels with Diamond Dresser

A lesson on how to safely dress the wheels on your bench grinder.
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[@ClownWhisper]

I had a metal shop teacher that people used to make fun of because he was a great big lumbering guy and he was kind of self-deprecating sort of fellow he would make songs out of everything so people would remember he taught all manner of metal working and he really changed my life. I as a child I was very defeated sort of fellow I never thought that I could do anything good I don't know how I got that way because my father always tried to uplift me and help me but I just didn't have a good time with things. One day my teacher came over to the brazing station where I spent a lot of time cuz I like doing projects over there and there was nobody around I think it was before class even started and he said to me I have never had a student that could braze as good as you Jeff and it's stuck with me the rest of my life it changed my life and it turned everything around for me. It is amazing what a person in a position of authority can do to uplift a child in the blink of an eye like that. He is the reason why in my present state of disability that I work with metal again because I learned to love working with metal and he told me that I could be good at it and I could be good at whatever I tried and I applied that belief in everything in my life and was successful not always but many times throughout my life and I'll never forget the man

[@mrpete222]

That is a wonderful story. Very uplifting

[@ClownWhisper]

@@mrpete222 sorry for the disjointed nature of which I wrote that I have to use voice recognition which does not always work out well. I have a neurological condition that causes this to be a necessity. I probably have told you this before but my memory isn't all that great these days And after rereading it I realize I never gave the gentleman his due his name was Mr Marx . He was a great teacher and a wonderful man and he changed my life I sure he changed other people's lives as well he was well liked despite some of the more abrasive members of our student body giving him a hard time for being a little bit Goofy. I think his goofy nature was what made him so well liked to most of us again he would make songs out of everything like to just to use a little bit of solder to solder an object he wrote a soldersong that went (just a little bit of solder is all you need not a lot just a little not a lot just a little...) and he would run around singing that while we were working. He did that with so many different aspects of applying techniques and it made it kind of fun to me but I think he did it so it would stick in our minds. I actually started thinking of him recently when I saw one of your casting videos because he was really into aluminum casting and that was his favorite time of year when it was time to teach aluminum casting to everyone I think he made excuses to do extra projects all the time LOL we had a pretty nice setup if we're doing that kind of stuff I wish I had just one of everything that I needed to do casting now I simply cannot afford that stuff anymore. It's taking me seven years to be able to afford everything I need for gear cutting because of disability and an event that has happened to me that caused me to lose my life savings a person stole the house for me but that's another terrible story that I won't go into I have rambled on way too long thank you for appreciating my story.

[@phillipbryant5976]

@@ClownWhisper Thank you for passing your experience along! Your positivity helps everyone you come in contact with!

[@craigsudman4556]

Excellent stuff Lyle, a well-dressed wheel is spiffy to say the least. I'm pretty sure that the band ZZ Top got the idea for the lyrics from having a sharp dressed wheel. Great video thumbs up.

[@4speed3pedals]

Mr. Pete. Horror Freight now sells a cyclonic dust collector for use before a vacuum. I had a terrible time with some designs that some KZbinrs posted and even had flames coming out of a vacuum motor. The unit they sell is very effective, comes with everything necessary other than a 5 gallon plastic bucket. I have been using a similar one for 5 years on my bead blaster and I get absolutely no dust into my vacuum, still on the same filter and it looks great. Everything is deposited into the 5 gal. bucket. The part number is 57194 and it sells for $39.99. A vacuum replacement will cost a lot higher.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you, I never heard of such a device

[@mechaform]

“Every girl’s crazy ‘bout a sharp dressed wheel.” Z.Z.Tubalcain

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@anthonysiracuse]

😅

[@stevemarschman3202]

Happy you emphasize safety. 44 years ago, when I was learning to sharpen HSS tool bits, I would hook my index fingers under the grinder tool rest. To this day I have a triangle-shaped scar where my finger touched the wheel and got "sucked" in. Painful lesson learned! 😂😂😂

[@mrpete222]

Ouch

[@bestfriendhank1424]

I used to grind down deer antlers and wood pieces to make arrows on my dad’s grinder when I was wee lad.

[@johnlee8231]

Good timing I need to make a wheel dresser. Looking forward to the next one

[@tpobrienjr]

I like the safety poster about luck! My father was an ophthalmologist in S Texas, and the nearby Celanese plant asked him for suggestions on eye safety. His recommendation was for everyone who entered the plant grounds must wear safety glasses, even the office personnel. They took the recommendation and reduced the eye injury accidents by a lot. That was about 1947.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍👍

[@lesmaybury793]

Excellent advise and timely as well. I need to make a new dresser so will look forward to the next video. Cheers Mr. Pete.

[@adam19890911]

Wow almost 800th tips and counting. I bet you don't realize how many people you teached practical skills. You should be up there in the technical hall of fame with Withwort, Ford or Davinci.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@brianhostak3961]

Always great information !! Thank you Mr. Pete !!

[@123232ism]

Loved it Mr. Pete.

[@mikeskupniewitz8057]

a thought just dawned on me.... thinking of dust explosions, like grain or sawdust... why isn't that a concern with a shopvac that's been used for sucking up other things... random thought... thanks for the video, gave me some more ideas of tools to make... looking forward tot he next video(s)!

[@SeanBZA]

Yes it is, that is why it is a good idea to clean it out regularly, or at least after you have been using it to suck up stuff. I wash my one regularly, mostly because I often used it in machinery, and thus it got full of old grease, swarf and other junk, so it would get a montly strip down and wash with engine degreaser, including washing the suction hose as well. Soaked in there for a half hour, then drained out, and filled partly with fresh liquid, and then run back and forth to get it agitated and scrub all the grease out, then rinse, another cycle in clean liquid, then a rinse and hang up overnight to dry on a convenient bracket. Same for the drum and fabric filter, no bags used, and every so often a strip of the motor to clean the HEPS filter on top, and put it at the bottom with a new HEPA filter on the top.

[@savage22bolt32]

It's really good to hear you cover those safety issues.

[@cravenmoorehead5636]

I have 2 of those old block grinders and they are awesome. Thanks buddy I needed this video.

[@dermotkelly2289]

Good video Pete. All of your videos are always well described and thought out. Yes grinding is not very enjoyable but it has to be done. I will wait for the next one about making the wheel dresser holder. Thank you.

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Great demo and I think you covered all the safety. thank you for sharing.

[@mrpete222]

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[@kerrygleeson4409]

Always great advice thanks for sharing Mr Pete 🦘👍

[@bucky3181]

Great video! Very helpful! Thanks, Mr. Pete.

[@karm65]

I put an inch or two of water in the bottom of my vacume buckit it extinguished the sparks and traps supper fine wheel dust that might make it through a filter. it doesn't seem to hurt anything.

[@mrpete222]

Good idea

[@donsengine3158]

The grinder.. so overlooked in the shop, yet we interact it with constantly. Good Job on this one Mr Pete.. Don

[@jfl-mw8rp]

Mr Pete! I have the exact same craftsman grinder. Even sounds the same! Had it over 40 years now. Great video thx!

[@elsdp-4560]

Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.

[@johnquinn3899]

Great info. Thanks Mr Pete.

[@MrPossumeyes]

Thanks, Mr Pete.

[@christurley391]

Thanks for the video.

[@dannyl2598]

Thank you Mr Pete.

[@johnquinn3899]

Great info Mr Pete - thanks

[@mattthescrapwhisperer]

Looking forward to the video on making the dressing tool.

[@angelramos-2005]

Very good video,Mrpete.Thank you.

[@pbc1951]

22:02 .... I love grinding !! it makes my welding look better !! lol Great Video Mr. Pete !!

[@alro2434]

Hi, Thanks! Never had the $$ or dedicated space for a real one, so its been a 1/2in threaded adapter/arbor, worn out to them but good to me grinding & wire wheels & 1/3hp motor since 3rd grade in the late 50's, and moved up to a dual shaft dryer motor to stop constantly switching between wire & grinding wheels 40 years ago. Sometimes lower speed & less power helps out when wire brushing carbon off exhaust valves also took off a little of my flesh!

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Excellent advise thanks for sharing

[@warrenlee3113]

A very helpful video, I need to take better care of my grinder wheels

[@michelecrown2426]

Good information. Brings me back many years to one day at work. I just finished dressing a radius on a narrow wheel. Gave the carriage hand wheel a big spin to rapid the dresser back. Forgot to tip the dresser back before doing that which exploded the grinding wheel. I was very lucky not to have been struck by rocketing shrapnel. Another wasn’t so lucky, he got a broken arm.

[@mrpete222]

Wow

[@bcwrangler]

Seems like a great project for all those bench grinders sitting in shops everywhere

[@pyromedichd1]

I'm looking forward to the build of the dresser.

[@evil16v1]

I have the 1/3 hp version of the vintage craftsman grinder you have there. Looks identical. Good grinder. I had a 1/2 hp cheapy. The 1/3 hp out performed the cheapy.

[@gyrogearloose1345]

Thanks very much for this Mr Pete. And especially for the safety reminders. As usual, this video full of useful information. Wishing you all the best!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@fermentedwaste1730]

Great video mr. Pete. I’ve learned and continue to learn a tremendous amount from your videos. Thanks!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@brucetuckey7909]

Good morning Mr. Pete, I see you have your nose to the grindstone. Now if they just grind coffee.

[@cleophusA]

Another quality production from "Pete-Co!" Purveyors of fine industrial instruction for all ages!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks lol

[@aktrapper6126]

Having a nice clean and dressed stone makes using a bench grinder a whole lot more enjoyable. Not that I enjoy bench grinders but as far as they go clean and dressed is best.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@CrazyRach]

This guy is a legend mr Pete we love you

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@kitmaira]

Looking forward to part 2

[@llapmsp]

Another great video, well presented and narrated. Thanks for sharing.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@CraigLYoung]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@rustyshackleford928]

Thanks Mr. Pete! I am looking forward to your #799 so I can make one!

[@mrpete222]

Next Saturday

[@geckoproductions4128]

Great video Mr. Pete, and timely for me. I found a really nice, like new 1/2 HP Baldor 7" grinder at an estate sale for $200 (selling online for about $1300) so after YEARS in my shop with cheap grinders, I finally got a good one. I did not know most of the info about grinders you presented in your video, so it was very helpful. It amazes me sometimes how much I think I know about mundane topics and really don't.. Thanks again for the excellent lesson on grinders.

[@ExtantFrodo2]

Now look up and view a few grinder accident videos to really get an appreciation for the dangers involved.

[@garbo8962]

Years ago worked in a 65 man maintenance shop and most of the grinders were Baldor. Bullet proof . One was a big 5 HP Bald or grinder. Even with two worn wheels thing would continue rotating for 5 minutes.

[@bearsrodshop7067]

Very informative Lyle, Will have to make that angled fixture one day👍👍

[@robertsherman5428]

I’m so blessed mr P I’ve got that old Delta inherited from my father in law she needed some love like re wiring adding plexus glass side wheel guards new wire wheel and stone

[@mrpete222]

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[@richardbrobeck2384]

nice Video I have Black & Decker from like 1960s little workhorse !

[@paulhunt598]

Once again Mr. Pete takes a subject most of us should well understand and fills in essential gaps with valuable information.. He does it in an informative manner that doesn't offend the individual who thinks he doesn't need the instruction. I have been using bench grinders for nearly 60 years and I picked up tips from this video that will improve my practice. Keep up this series! I have begun using a Baldor cupped wheel tooling grinder that allows both OD and side wheel grinding. The T slot tables are large and have protractor angle adjustment. Reversing motor allows grinding on the near and far fide of the wheels. My hope is this machine will facilitate my tool sharpening learning curve. I purchased a trunk load of tooling this week including poorly hand sharpened Morse taper drills up to nearly 2" I would enjoy pointers on hand sharpening these drills taking advantage of the Baldor tooling grinder. I have never mastered off hand drill sharpening and generally just replace anything under 1/2" nominal.

[@mrpete222]

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[@transmitterguy478]

Mr. Pete, do a video on grinding wheel grits and which wheels you use on what metals. Great video as always!

[@dustinbates2044]

Another great video sir!!! I always learn useful information that will come in handy.. Keep them coming👍

[@mrpete222]

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[@rcurry8531]

Thank you👍👍👍

[@ypaulbrown]

Always wonderful information Mr. Pete,,,,,cheers from Florida, Paul

[@mrpete222]

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[@kevinyonke6773]

Thank you for another great video. It will make the honey do list less painful today

[@mrpete222]

lol

[@stxrynn]

Thanks Professor Pete! I have a new project to make! I even learned something new. I have a couple of those monster wheeled type dressers. And they sure do move material and make a mess. I have a few of the diamond dresser parts so, I'm gonna take good notes on the Lisle and the Lyle types when they come out!

[@mrpete222]

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[@jonbush9533]

@@mrpete222 Professor Pete.... I like that... very fitting!!!

[@saifcathum3423]

I like the vintage safety posters at the beginning of you videos. I wear glasses to see that have large impact resistant lenses. Saved me countless times, even when least expected.

[@mrpete222]

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[@brianburke7440]

When I get new glasses I always get two pairs. One with side shields and one without. I then have one for driving and around the house, the other for shop work.

[@SeanBZA]

Wheel dresser is great for those new to you grinders with otherwise good stones, but abused. Hog off the material fast to get it close to true, and then change to the finer methods to finish off. Yes I did get the diamond point, very cheap new, was IIRC around $5 for a 1/2 carat industrial diamond in a hard steel shaft, and it has come in very handy to dress wheels, as it only removes the bare minimum of material. I do have a few grinders, the one I use the most is wall mounted on a rubber sheet for vibration, and then the other is just currently in storage, with the small one I got in a job lot also having a buff instead of the one wheel. Comes in useful, especially as I dressed it a lot to get the wheel true and lower the vibration, but it is mostly used to polish rather than grinding, unless it is something quick. Did add the shields to it, the ones it came with were mostly missing, and were clear styrene anyway, so put in some acrylic that was both larger and thicker. Cracked wheels break them in two, and use them as a way to sharpen mower blades and other garden tools, which saves somebody using the grinder for this, just have a half wheel by the garden tools, and a quick few swipes as you are getting them out makes sure you have a nice sharp edge for use, plus you can easily sharpen them in use.

[@ExtantFrodo2]

Better to break the wheels than risk them getting used on a machine or (after you die) getting sold to someone who doesn't know better.

[@frankdoner8402]

Favorite teacher, your the Hombre

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@garthbutton699]

I am interested in the next video where you make a wheel dresser,thanks for all your efforts🤗😎🤗😎

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

Thanks for the instructive video. Didn't get how that angled cut, in the holder, was used. Remains to find a grinding diamond....

[@georgecurtis6463]

Yes, those craftsman grinders with the adjustable speed are great. I have an 8in one. And yes, they come with every safety item that is needed. Yours is missing a lot. And the holder is for those clunky wheel dressing tool.

[@onestopfabshop3224]

This is perfect timing. I need to get a nib and make a nice wheel dresser. My friend recently passed away and his wife asked me to come over and help go through things. She told me I could take anything I wanted and he had a ton of all kinds of tools. There's an older surface grinder I still have to go pick up. I also got a Black and Decker drill bit sharpener. They call it industrial in the research I've done but I feel it's more medium grade. Nonetheless, it works so so well. It also has a diamond nib dresser but unfortunately the diamond is gone from the nib. There's a spot on the back of the machine with a clip to store the nib. Thanks for the video, looking forward to the next one. Take care.

[@mrpete222]

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[@jerrywilson9730]

I liked it. Could you show how to aline the guide to the grinder shaft. Thanks

[@gvet47]

I like my 8 inch slow speed grinder for wood lathe and metal lathe tools. Norton 1 inch wide white wheels in two grades. I do have a little 6 inch for other tasks. I use them only when I am dressed!🤣

[@jmckittrick1]

You are absolutely awesome

[@mrpete222]

😄

[@gamestyleoffire]

Your the best

[@jimadams8182]

I got tired of the guys on swing shift using my grinder so i built a new table with a stand mounted on pillow block bearings. It swings back when not in use and a door with a hasp and a lock secures it back out of operating range.

[@MyLilMule]

I'm looking forward to the next video. I've never used anything other than that first one you hate so much.

[@kennethsimmons5235]

Thank You Sir........

[@jayjay6804]

A dressed wheel is preferred for hand grinding drill bits because it is less likely to overheat the steel.

[@lathammarx1458]

Excellent video Tubalcain, on the care of grinding wheels, I have used those wheel type dresser, it sits in that cradle on the top of the variable speed Craftsman you have. They make a huge mess and ridiculous noise, with sparks shooting everywhere definitely not for the faint of heart.

[@mrpete222]

True

[@irredeemabledeplorable5227]

After 50 some years, I now realize i may be "THAT guy"🤣🤣🤣

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Thanks for a well dressed video.

[@mrpete222]

😀

[@lastfeatheroffreedom9665]

Hey there Mr. Pete , really enjoying your video collection here on KZbin my friend , only thing I'm disappointed with i,is that I haven't come across your channel sooner. On the plus side I have , I am sure a large collection of new great videos to binge watch . I'm a machinist / fabricator , and you would be amazed at how little attention is given to properly tending to machine's and tools at the shops I've been employed over the last 25 year's , especially these younger guy's , not sure if you were a shop teacher at some point but I sure wish that the kids today had more access to learning how to work in shops than they have now , everything is about machines and technology , don't get me wrong I love how precise I'm able to make cuts and how clean and nice the parts come out for you , but I really think it's a mistake to not have the machinery available ,and the knowledge of how to create a part manually passed down to our future generations . Wonder how you might feel about that , perhaps a little insight in a future video from you .

[@mrpete222]

I am glad you found my channel and are enjoying my contents. Yes, I I was a shop teacher for over 40 years. And there has been a decline in the school system over the past 25 or more years in regard to the shop programs. Hopefully they will come back. Mike Rowe, the television personality, is a big proponent of vocational education. Even Trump mentioned it in several speeches

[@MegaLostOne]

I have two of the 6" and one of the 8" Craftsman grinders. The two 6" are the flat design like you have there and 1/3hp. I really like them, they don't bog down like the newer grinders do and if you take your time you can find them locally for cheap, I think I paid around $35 each for them. My 8" Craftsman is 1HP and I paid $75 for it on a local listing as well and it was like new. People under estimate how nice the Craftsman grinders are and you can get them really cheap if you take your time and look around.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@richardbrobeck2384]

I have owned a lot of craftsme n tools over the years and I have collection of them great tools !

[@fredflintstone8048]

I have a dresser like the first one you showed and set aside. I had to laugh at what you said it takes to use it. I find it a great source of anxiety to use as well. It's like trying to use a jackhammer while wearing roller skates on a rocky mountain slope. I hate the thing. I'm looking forward to the project of making one. I need to do a number of things with my grinders including making better tool rests for them.

[@mrpete222]

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[@arjanvanraaij8440]

Thank you Lyle. I am 17 minuts in the video and 1 going to make that dresser tool. by welding as I don't have a mill (jet).

[@mrpete222]

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[@debztully1339]

Yeah!

[@martingruffalump5484]

not the usual internet smart-ass - this guy really knows his stuff - i hate the horrible wheel wheel dressers too - use the box diamond one as i have to dress green carbide as well as more common varieties of wheels. 😁😁😁

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@joewhitney4097]

Good video and content. I was happy to see you address the grinding of aluminum (non-ferrous metals of any kind). Again for sharing.

[@ExtantFrodo2]

You mean I shouldn't grind those lead ingots to size? Respirators? Bah! Who needs 'em?

[@ono147]

good god man!

[@ErikBongers]

I need a dresser to store my Mr. Pete T-shirts.

[@ellieprice363]

Thanks for this much needed instructions about a machine that’s often neglected and abused. It’s a good thing you covered all the safety rules so the safety police wouldn’t come and lock you up!

[@xoxo2008oxox]

Dress my wheel with a sweatshirt and a vest. Seriously, you take Mr Pete's warnings! I got too close with a sweatshirt to the wheel and lucky it wasn't worst. The vest (outerwear) also got a taste of wear and had to patch that hole. Oh! THAT dressing...

[@mrpete222]

😂

[@fiveskin2611]

I was taught to stand to one side when starting a grinder----That said , very good video Mr Pete . Thank you

[@mrpete222]

Actually, I was taught that as well. And I told the students to do that

[@junkmannoparts9696]

Hi Mr Pete good video . To me when shopping on line all the photos look a like I bought this one was a return . To me its a good grinder for the price comes with cast wheel covers instead of sheet metal and its 1 hp . JET JBG-8B, 8-Inch Bench Grinder, 1HP, 115V 1PH (577102) Its a step above the the stuff i saw a the big box stores hope this helps someone . JM

[@mrpete222]

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[@steveparker8723]

The variable speed grinders are nice for wire wheels. 3450 is too fast for them in my opinion.

[@mrpete222]

Agreed

[@jimdean7335]

Mr Pete you are a diamond in the rough…….

[@mrpete222]

😀

[@dannyarendall5233]

On the top was a cheapie wheel dresser I had one on my craftsman which I threw away

[@bobschmitz3882]

I dressed a new stone for the first time in my life (before watching this video!) with the Chinese T shaped dresser. I only had my reading glasses on, and used it very lightly, for balancing the wheel. I worked great, but the white cloud of microscopic particles (Al2O3) went everywhere and caused nasty eye irritation, and even a doctors visit. Also I had a cough for a few days. No lasting damage he said, but even after 2 weeks it has not completely cleared up. Be very careful with this very agressive dust!

[@mrpete222]

Sorry to hear that, yes, it is a nasty nasty dust. That’s why some people will not even the ground in the same room where they have their machines.

[@johncloar1692]

Mr. Pete thumbs are up thanks for the video,

[@DEtchells]

Good to know that the cheap crushed-diamond dresser I have is a reasonable option. (Now I need to make decent tool-rest setups for my two cheap grinders :-) => A question: You mentioned that your grinder date 3450 rpm, what do you think about slow-speed grinders? Are they useful in the machine shop. The argument is that they won’t heat the tool as quickly as higher-speed ones, but if you have to grind longer for the same amount of stock removal, does the total heating end up the same anyway?

[@mrpete222]

I am not totally sure but I kind of agree with you. Friction is friction

[@lsumaniac2485]

If you are selling those dressers I would love to purchase one

[@bulldawg6259]

Bubba says thank you

[@bobbyw9046]

Dressing a wheel is not my idea of fun - but like you said, it's a necessary evil. I spend 5 minutes dressing it and a half hour cleaning up! I use the Geiger Dresser and like yo , I've pretty much relegated the other styles to paperweights. I do use the one that looks like a Razor once in a blue moon, but it's not as accurate as the Geiger. I watched the first video you made about this subject years ago - but I'd bet this was a well needed subject resurrection..

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@dennybarton3256]

I like your idea better, a guy gave me a 10 " , Craftsman, radial arm saw I converted to a grinding wheel on the left side and a sanding disk on the right, I actually sit the grinder any angle I desire and put my lathe cutting tools in a vice thats square with the table and move the vice back and forth, in and out ,

[@mrpete222]

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