Sly 3 Alpha - Venice 1st Mission(Beta Octavio, guards and more)

From the Sly 3 Jampack Holiday 2005 demo disc. Can be accessed via memory editing. This demo was build 6 months before the game's release.
No, i did not add the text to speech voices. That's what Sucker Punch used before they got voice actors.
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[@solidoptimus0129]

This feels like a weird dream I'd get.

[@oergpoerg4658]

This is really interesting, especially because it differs notably from the final game. I reckon the Hazard Room was added late in the development since the waypoint tutorial was present here.

[@GamePrime99]

The unused music is amazing!

[@Jurmyus]

GamePrime it's another version of the used one, and ikr XD

[@mann-nova9392]

This entire mission is basically just a shitpost

[@Slysonic]

You mean to tell me there is a mission where you have to find Murray.... At pizza joints. Technology was amazing in 2005.

[@armorx9638]

@Nut Shack234 Because using technology to find Murray at pizza joints in Venice, who is known to love fast food. It sounds incredibly dumb and lame. It would have made a good joke in the game, but it would also insult Bentley's character as a genious.

[@armorx9638]

@Nut Shack234 That I do not understand, probably not enough time or last minute changes.

[@Orion9411]

It's a good thing they redesigned Octavio and the enemies. They're less goofy-looking and more intimidating in the final game.

[@twoeyedmike3529]

i've ALWAYS wanted to see footage of the beta version of Sly 3. Excellent stuff!

[@OtisLePoOtis]

6:07 is legit some of the funniest shot i have ever seen

[@frostycane5134]

Not gonna lie while the deliver and way the line is written is hilarious, having this situation pop up so early in game could have been cool to see. Murray jumps into action in the final game because his friends where in a violent situation So to see him say no here is strange

[@SlyCooperReloadCoded]

Notice how there are 4 locks on the Ferris Wheel's control box. You smash it open in the final game, but I bet you had to get keys originally.

[@GouStoulos]

Yeah most likely

[@acebi_ly9246]

which is stupid by the way ! It's obviously the same lock then the 100 others in the games. How is this one breakable and not the others ?

[@j3rmuuu495]

Yeah

[@gnisten6]

This is so cool. Also the text-to-speech voices are.. ehh.. art at its finest

[@Slysonic]

The finest voice acting i have ever seen.

[@godarik8984]

Gnist it’s so fucking funny lol!!!!

[@blooper2088]

The mere fact they used text to speech voices makes me want a mod of these games that simply replaces the voice acting with Text To Speech voices

[@firsttimehere_]

These beta videos are dream of Cooperfans

[@k3nsh1nxx]

Yes

[@Slysonic]

"Murray, we need your help here!" "No, I'm not going to help you with violence" *walks away* Top 10 ways to get rejected in 10 seconds.

[@Atteflomid]

Couldn't stop laughing

[@jaborsey_joseph]

*XD*

[@MisterJohnDoe]

This made me laugh in a very stupid way.

[@koikarppa]

Top 10 anime betrayals

[@brandondiaz2925]

That's harsh yo

[@RemoChristian]

Murray be like "I don't always focus on the eternal questions of life, but when I do, I eat pizza."

[@johngabrielsson6740]

Ikr

[@j3rmuuu495]

Remo suaki näkee tääl:)

[@GamerFavor]

Remo perkele, anna Sly 4 läpipeluu meille!

[@moi-ww7rt]

Tee youtubee jotai striimii slysta tai änäristä

[@jqyhlmnp]

I love videos like this. Finding the broken part of a fantastic final product is always fascinating

[@5persondude]

6:07 thats a moment that belongs in an old Garry's Mod video lol

[@loganpaschedag8829]

It is so funny having text-to-speach voices but no mouth movements 😂

[@kawaiibrarian]

This seems like an early tutorial level before the hazard room was created, not to mention, they revamped the entire first mission so that Sly instead goes to the police station to search for Murray's whereabouts.

[@theeggen]

Me and the boys rigging a ferris wheel

[@Brian7965]

Having the jester enemies' hats jingle when you hit them was a nice touch!

[@hazel-ou7ui]

Tbh this is way better than the hazard room levels

[@swivelskittle3926]

This is super interesting to see, thanks for doin stuff like this, gives me a better understanding of sucker punches thought process and why they changed things

[@bodysoap3838]

WHERE HAS THIS BEEN MY WHOLE LIFE

[@jesseking1403]

6:09 No, I'm not going to help you with violence.

[@FraughtPie56499]

Octavio looks ehhhhhh......... His goons look like clowns....... Everything looks ehh......... Are we going to ignore the fact Murray said "not until till the brown water ran pure"?

[@SlyJak2]

Wow, I was actually hoping that Sly would go inside one of the pizza places... heheh This looks awesome, can't wait for more!

[@Foas]

lmfao some of the lines in this proto

[@DDTPZX]

BROWN water.

[@Jurmyus]

Shadow You ikr. What happened to "the blackwater ran pure" XD

[@jaborsey_joseph]

Wait, Brown Water....oh no.

[@rikustorm13]

Tbh they should've kept the Venice episode to where it has 2 parts, before Carnivale and during Carnivale

[@kierra3825]

lmaoooo octavio looked HORRIBLE. so glad they changed his look 😭😭

[@FlaminBurrito101]

I can see sly 2 animations. I guess they had the sly 2 engine and kept adding stuff to it. Made me smile a bit just being able to notice.

[@frostycane5134]

Honestly making the tutorial take place in Venice instead of a the hazard room was a better idea

[@artgurusauce]

Something about the text-to-speech just... **Chef's kiss** Perfection~

[@Myself-yf5do]

Why did they change the cat guards? They were better the way they started out.

[@evelynfarrell7355]

i won’t lie, i preferred the thiefnet from sly 2 over sly 3. i felt like the items in sky 3 were worth less too and it took forever to get coins. i also liked the idea of the trading etc. i also prefer the chickens and cats in this, portrayed as fools it’s funny! the music is cool too. i love sly 3 now too anyways so no hate!

[@brofistbro]

I don't know why, but I end up loving beta content as much as the final product. So much respect for beta.

[@hitkid96fan]

Do you think you can look into the validity of LSoundtracker's video that claims to be the beta version of the Venice fight theme? It doesn't seem to be in this video but somehow that exists.

[@GouStoulos]

It's definitely not in the demo disc that i used. It's probably an even older version

[@brandondiaz2925]

The dude narrating is not so bad he's doing a great job

[@thatisalongtitle3962]

Voice today: ok Voice before : Masterpiece

[@SmallPopcorn01]

Interesting how part of the beta intro music became the danger music for that world

[@samanthakuznik5007]

Look at the top left. The eyes are different on his logo.

[@Gnomiumm]

"No, I'm not going to help you with violence"

[@rikustorm13]

Oh shit, I thought you added Microsoft Sam lmfao

[@SlyCooper1920]

Holy crap I even sound like a microsoft!

[@lukesmith720]

So the only ones who didn't change were the Cane Corso flashlight guards

[@klaud7311]

The pigeons look like ghosts in mine and the 3D mode is activated and there is some weird 3D stripes effect on the screen.

[@orangejuiceearrape]

Thanks for sharing this! Do you know if in this demo when you jump and press the square button you can keep your momentum similar to in Sly 2? That's a little detail that I always missed in Sly 3 and Thieves in Time.

[@GouStoulos]

Hello. No, you cant. It acts just like in the final game.

[@bradythomas234]

I love how it's the same text to speech voice from the old dekuscrubby luigi sucks videos

[@arttugaming2861]

Im big sly fan and this is firts time i see this. Guys lets hope we get sly 5 to ps5

[@ajaakola2]

this looks better than most of the steam games people make thesedays lol

[@cashbrady4074]

i like how they had some stuff in check but removed stuff and changed missions

[@neilbowes7214]

This actually would've been a better first mission to start off with! It would've helped get your bearings around the first level of the game as well as make more sense lore-wise. It could've had Sly looking around for Murray and failing, so Bentley resorts to sneaking into Police HQ to find info on him instead. This way it could also reference Sly 2 in the way that both games' first levels had two starting missions instead of one.

[@Jokuman357]

Bentley Hawking

[@crashharty]

Octavio was probably going to be a jester type character

[@samushunter242]

Interesting how turnbuckle launch is still in the game Does it work still ?

[@GouStoulos]

Yeap

[@samushunter242]

If you have the time you should see what leftover abilities work and which ones don’t You know if you have time

[@GouStoulos]

I actually am doing it right now. I already had checked Sly's powerups but not for Murray and Bentley. Now that i have found the required addresses i am checking what is there. Spoilers, it's mostly Sly 2 stuff. There are some Sly 3 stuff like the grapple cam.

[@samushunter242]

I wonder if the mega jump gadget from mega jump job is still working

[@GouStoulos]

It does! Gonna upload a short video showcasing all of them

[@PowerPuffBoysZ]

Is there a guide to play this and other alpha missions? I was on the modding discord and someone linked me to a collection of savestates for the alpha missions but I could not get them to load on the jam-pack 2005 holiday iso. Do they require a specific pcsx2 version? Or is there a cheat table guide for memory hacking the missions? Sorry for rambling

[@GouStoulos]

Hey. The savestates will not work with older pcsx2 versions(like 1.4). You might need to use a newer version. There will be a mission loader for that demo on the next version of my sly trainer. So playing those missions will be pretty much painless once i get enough time to finish that update.

[@PowerPuffBoysZ]

@@GouStoulos according to the pcsx2 wiki there are 2 versions of the demo disc. A mature version and a teen version. Will your trainer be version specific as I can only find the mature version

[@GouStoulos]

@@PowerPuffBoysZ Any version of the disc will be fine. Dw

[@ThePrestigiousDesertLion9497]

@@PowerPuffBoysZ do you have the save states.

[@PowerPuffBoysZ]

@@ThePrestigiousDesertLion9497 unfortunately no it was roughly a year ago i had them and since then the modding discord i got them from seems to have gone offline

[@ThePrestigiousDesertLion9497]

where do I find this version of the game with the old Octavio

[@tiljyredpanda4497]

those enemies are different, reminds me of kingdom hearts’s finale mix where the creators revisited the games change the look for some enemies and add stuff to it.

[@kaitoshion6982]

I must say, I can see why the Hazard Room was criticized. This felt better, well, when revised.

[@Kumakaree]

The text to speech is hilarious omg

[@WhosMediic]

I love theese videos!..but daim it hurts to watch u fight XD

[@GouStoulos]

Thanks! Yeah i know... Probably because this was my first time recording with the pcsx2 built in tool. Which slows the game down to 30-40% speed. I eventually got used to it, and tuned it for better quality(again, in this particular recording, it is terrible)

[@WhosMediic]

@@GouStoulos Its so satisfying to see how the game was in the earlier stage ;)

[@otomesakuragi6842]

the little guards look funny

[@the_one_and_only-vn7or]

i dont know if its just me but the voices make slys face look very derpy

[@jaborsey_joseph]

Lotta cut content for a pretty decent entry in the franchise.

[@PowerPuffBoysZ]

you still working on your trainer to play alpha missions?

[@GouStoulos]

yes. slowly but surely

[@PowerPuffBoysZ]

@@GouStoulos where, if anywhere, can i follow you? the old sly modding discord isnt around anymore

[@ethius7403]

Sly narrated by moonman

[@Kumakaree]

the brown water as in shit water

[@frostycane5134]

Maybe originally Octavio was going to pollute the water with sewage but it was changed to tar

[@Kumakaree]

@@frostycane5134 I could see that being the case

[@lopesmorrenofim]

how did you find this

[@GouStoulos]

By "poking the demo with a stick". The missions are in there, but they are not accessible without memory hacking.

[@Bgraham0189]

AUG 2O 2017

[@loganpaschedag8829]

TBH this level felt like episode 1 from sly 2 instead of Paris. It's Venice Italy 🇮🇹

[@MisterJohnDoe]

The “voice acting” makes this look like one big shitpost/bad fanfiction

[@CoopersCrazy]

Man that Octavio design is terrible I wish you'd looked up at the big Octavio sign Man they do be jinglin' tho Brown water instead of black, huh? One guess why they changed that

[@Discotheque2002]

This is terrible lol but really cool to see the progress

[@hellothere5291]

:DDD just :DDD im just sayibg that lol

[@HiHi-mc2wv]

This is fudging fake

[@kobrakai007]

How is this fake?