Sly 2 Alpha Differences [Part 1]

[@Charles-e4x]

I noticed in the final game, after you bug Dimitri's office, Dimitri had dialogue referring to a helicopter as his "eyes in the sky". I was a little confused as to what he was referring to, but it turns out, it was leftover dialogue from the Alpha here. Very interesting.

[@ordelian7795]

The loot inside the buildings makes the layout of the interiors make more sense. I remember finding all those hidden areas and found them empty without purpose.

[@Rakkki]

@zKapeh no tää

[@bortsa5154]

zKapeh no eipä kauheesti yllätä no koska sly

[@rubenrubio6875]

Murray's eyes in the alpha still haunt me to this day.

[@hamstergamesinc7258]

Same And sly's eyes too

[@kaztheunbreakable]

murray off a bean lmao

[@ColdBaltBlue]

Forget his eyes, his voice!

[@rubenrubio6875]

@@ColdBaltBlue Yeah, his voice too. XD

[@gelato101]

22:33 Fun fact, this different dialogue lasted long enough to get a proper recording, it was still in the demo that was included with Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal

[@ultra-vivi]

26:59 I noticed one of the green barrels is leaking. So my thinking is originally they would be broken during the fight and begin flooding the floor with that hazardous water, forcing sly and Dimitri to take the fight upstairs. Also explains how Dimitri kinda magically ends up on the second floor after you beat him.

[@FastTheSonic]

10:08 In this room in the final game, you can still explore the indoor balcony, and even use a door, and I always thought to myself "What's this doing here? Why can I go here?" And now I finally know why. Loot.

[@kdog3k]

Bentley's original health bar is still in the final game in episode 2. I always wondered why it was stylised so differently.

[@2diefor]

I noticed that too, maybe they forgot

[@jjnet123]

It's also the health bar on the sly 2 demo on ratchet and clank 3's disc.

[@Abomdosnow]

22:29 It's like an Internet parody, especially with Murray's voice, lol.

[@lucareinikainen2637]

I dont know why but this is very fascinating, its so cool to see this alpha footage

[@lunaticlemon2997]

interesting that i never thought they would have sly 2 models in the same style of sly 1. it just goes to show that the development evolved greatly since the alpha version. I didn't even know this existed til now. Wish stuff like this caught more attention. Especially since it's crucial because it is something we have never seen before. In fact I didn't even know an alpha build or prototypes existed, I always thought gaming companies just threw their stuff away like Japanese developers had done in the past. Real interesting stuff.

[@SlyCooperReloadCoded]

270 dollars put to good use, I'd say.

[@otakunthevegan4206]

A god damn hero to the fanbase and community I'd say.

[@UndertakerU2ber]

@SlyCooperReloadCoded Hopefully he makes the money back (and more) with KZbin ad revenue.

[@GouStoulos]

@@UndertakerU2ber I was not involved in this release. It was SlyCooperReloadCoded, Thatawesomecat and madmarsrocks.

[@TheMaan2008]

Wait, what did/do you mean??

[@SlyCooperReloadCoded]

@@TheMaan2008 I chipped in 270 dollars to buy the disc that contained this build of the game.

[@FridiNaTor]

There were things to steal on the ledges? That explains why in the final game it just feels like a pointless easter egg kind of thing.

[@theeviscerator9357]

What easter egg?

[@FireJace]

I always wondered why there was an upstairs section at the end of "Breaking & Entering." Thanks for clearing that up, Gou!

[@SlyCooperReloadCoded]

For anyone waiting for Part 2, it was getting close to completion, but then Sony Vegas did what it's known for doing and corrupted the project file. That's the only reason for the delay that I'm aware of.

[@GouStoulos]

Yeap that's the main reason. There's more stuff going on but that's the main reason. It's about 50% done right now so hopefully it's gonna be done soon

[@loganpaschedag8829]

The helicopter was a neat little thing to have. They should’ve kept it in as a an emergency exit ticket almost. But still interesting stuff here since I grown up with this franchise so this gives me a lot of nostalgia ❤️🤘🍕

[@weshansen7892]

Not sure if the files go used, but on the final release there are audio clips of Dimitri mentioning his chopper

[@zay7341]

to be honest i really liked the first pause menu 4:33

[@hiphop4148]

I love Sly 2 man. Awesome job posting the alpha version to this game. I enjoyed watching this a lot. I hope you have more upcoming sly 1, 2 and 3 videos coming soon. 🙂

[@optccaptain]

4:32 Carmelita killed me XD Thanks for sharing this video!

[@MiaKhalifa19474]

The amount of editing in this video is tip tier! Sad i came latw tk the party

[@level98bearhuntingarmor]

Cool to see that there's more to this game than I thought when I played it a long time ago

[@deathless2554]

16:00 Murray's voice lmao

[@directorjustin]

Ayyyy, Bentley, forget about it!

[@oergpoerg4658]

4:34 Huh, I remember the instruction manual talking about maps, which do not appear in the game. Guess they were cut late in the development. I wonder if they were completed at all.

[@kawaiibrarian]

I remember reading somewhere that SuckerPunch productions was originally planning to not rehire Chris Murphy (voice of Murray) because they wanted a much more heroic voice for the hippo (hence why he has a different voice here).

[@t.v.rockwell4504]

That was true, but Sucker Punch weren't too happy with any of the guys that tried to replace Chris, so Chris got the job back.

[@weshansen7892]

@@t.v.rockwell4504 thank god, his sly 2 voice was really good. Unfortunately it got downgraded in 3 and onward

[@dreel37]

@@weshansen7892 Did he have a different VC in sly 3?

[@kawaiibrarian]

@@dreel37 Nope, Chris Murphy still voices Murray in Sly 3.

[@ultra-vivi]

@@weshansen7892 it’s sad but I feel it’s mostly a failure of the writers penning him into a corner of “destruction is cool!”, unfortunately they made him rather childish and simplistic even though he had a lot of growth in Sly 2 that kind of got reverted.

[@St_Rizla]

I noticed the interior of the nightclub disco has a big window with the river flowing against it, it doesn't match the outside of the map in the final game but now I know why

[@Flashguy4826]

15:08 Damn, man, my dude just BOOKED it! Eat your heart out, Sonic The Hedgehog! XD

[@crisismoon880]

I freaking love this

[@gojira5157]

tbh i wish they kept in the flying glitch. Would've made for fun speed run tech

[@scottjefferson4048]

such a menacing thumbnail...

[@reptilian5212]

Love this game with all my heart brody

[@DragonRushHurricaneTrackers]

24:40 At that point, we’re basically playing Call of Duty instead of Sly Cooper

[@Artist626]

6:40 explains so much... in the remastered version during the final Paris mission when you bring down the peacock sign and have to defend the truck from goons I noticd if you spammed the circle button sly would just keep flying up instead of down (why j spammed the circle button couldn't tell ya). I thought it was a bug or glitch cool to see it was an original mechanic that was scrapped and somehow must have made its way into the game in just that one moment in the remastered version my gusse by mistake. Regardless neat to know there was intention behind that in early demos.

[@Daywalker1233]

Sly in the alpha Paris intro kinda sounded like Tobey Maguire.

[@kacperciesowski3344]

@Gou 3d Coin counter was reused in Sly 4

[@csharp3884]

I was thinking the same thing lol

[@ZekeBrewer]

At least in Alpha you could replay jobs 😂

[@WhosMediic]

2:50 the door animation?

[@saucetown222]

I kind of like the old health better more

[@CidSilverWing]

Lovely stuff :3

[@MahoganyVinceArchive]

Is this being played on an emulator or on actual hardware? Is there any external software needed to access the demo menu to start the game? If not, is this build open to people who are willing to give it a go on real PS2 hardware? I want to see if those textures are also corrupted on real hardware, or if the health bar occasionally glitches in the same manner

[@GouStoulos]

This footage is from an emulator. You can download a debug enabled patched version of the iso on hiddenpalace. Pretty sure I linked it in the description. I have run it on my Ps2 though. The texture looks like that there too. The health bar glitching is cause by pcsx2

[@Thomasfan89]

I'd like to know. How did you get this? how are you playing this? and how can I play it/install it? It's blown my mind.

[@DeadFace342]

Where can i get alpha version? Or is it even possible? as a big sly 2 fan it would be awesome to just play around in this!

[@DavideOnekenobi]

I think that a lot of those style choices were better than the ones on the original game 🤔

[@themanicfiddler1152]

The damage increase from enemies did return in the third game, at least to an extent.

[@dadyos]

I like how Bentley sounds like how he does in sly 1

[@BIGwillTHEGAME]

Thanks

[@ColonelLige]

Carmalita looked a lot better in the pause menu in alpha.

[@2flyinthezone]

this video is underrated

[@dannyjr374]

The cutscene artstyle followed more sly 1s artstyle cool

[@QueSeraSeraaaa]

Glad they cut the helicopter from the final game, that looked pointless just for entering a courtyard, thing that is done better in the final version. Strangely, the rats had a pink beret in my demo, i don’t think it was the alpha, the few missions in it were from the final version.

[@DanceGavinDanceIsBae]

So the original Neyla was THICC, huh?

[@sambesiili4698]

10:32 So that's why i can get there...

[@sergentpoid5764]

Mmm is there any way to have it for free online?

[@SlyJak2]

Part 2 when?

[@GouStoulos]

Soon. Hopefully.

[@Azrael-Legna]

Sly's voice in this sounds kinda sinister. I don't know if that's the right word, but I hope you get what I mean.

[@MonstrMash123458943]

is the sly modding discord down

[@SepmikGaming1]

is this public? how do i get it?

[@adrianmania173]

📲🦝YTLBNH😱

[@Archibald1705]

Cool

[@melissacrittenden2078]

Imagine they put the prototype In the ps3 shop

[@claudiapawlak3971]

How did you get a hold of this?

[@GouStoulos]

A couple of friends bought it from a private seller. The .iso is public, so anyone can play it.

[@claudiapawlak3971]

@@GouStoulos Incredible - thank you so so SO much for uploading this!

[@melissacrittenden2078]

OK what emulator did you use and also can you make a tutorial

[@melissacrittenden2078]

Or they put it for sale

[@gotigilles1]

NTSC dot not exist the french version of ps2 , only PAL have french version too bad for me i wanna play french version to my ps2 Region NTSC :\

[@The_D_ray]

I would kinda appreciate all that loot. In the release version it's really hard and boring to "grind" money. If they add all of that loot, it could have been way better for me.

[@Shrev64]

your english is the very terrible and good your video very nice though

[@smack3347]

lmfao what

[@Shrev64]

@@smack3347 very good

[@smack3347]

Shrev64 luv u 😍

[@Shrev64]

@@smack3347 mutually tyvm :)

[@Shrev64]

@Nut Shack234 damn