Drinker's Chasers - Ahsoka Episode 5: Memberberries and Key Jangling

The more we look into Ahsoka Episode 5, the more of a hollow shell it becomes. Star Wars isn't going to be saved by this show, that's for sure.

[@PappyGunn]

The only Star Wars scene that put me in tears is how they killed and disposed of Solo. Empaled, thrown down a precipice (so no body can be buried), his legacy dragged in the mud and forgotten 5 minutes later. A symbol of what Disney did to the franchise.

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

And he comes back as a Force ghost even though he was never a Jedi.

[@speedycerviche2380]

According to disney rules. He is still alive.

[@looinrims]

Then his body is exploded

[@looinrims]

@@speedycerviche2380that’s what happened to captain phasma

[@Mark_Knight]

I am so Glad the GHOST OF ANAKIN(LUKES DADDY) came back to give positive affirmation to Asoka, INSTEAD of HIS OWN SON drinking green titty milk and wanting to diee!!!!

[@chasehedges6775]

Hayden Christensen, Ray Stevenson, the child actress playing Young Ashoka and the child actor playing Jacen kid are the real victims of this show, along with the viewers

[@conradojavier7547]

What's next?, make Adult Jacen a Green-Haired Ben Solo played by Adam Driver.

[@brandonm4550]

The fact Ray Stevensons isn't even in this show is a travesty. He's had like 10 minutes of screen time in 5 episodes.

[@josephmccartney5951]

Yah the child actress that played little Ashoka was so much better then adult Ashoka. She actually showed emotion and some kind of will to act

[@Sidera17]

Young Ahsoka felt like it was the first time she was actually Ahsoka.

[@firstlast9846]

*I hate how Andor has been getting shit on* since this show came out.. I’m sorry - but Dave Filoni’s “Glup Shitto” writing can not touch anything from Andor

[@alphacause]

Disney's incarnation of Star Wars uses nostalgia the way an abusive partner uses elaborate apologies as a way to keep their lover in an abusive relationship.

[@willer3399]

💯🔥

[@firstlast9846]

Worst part is the fans eat it up, “This episode was a 10/10” “Why?” “It had anakin.. and Ahsoka, references to CW-“ “So.. what about good writing and doing something new with Star Wars?” “But.. it had callbacks”

[@Mac-eo4bc]

It's honestly the SW"s equivalent to " BUT HE MADE GRADUATION!!" Bro, this franchise is too far gone to be saved without a complete reversal of the last 12 years and taken from Disney. Along with some new good stories.

[@coolfrog3552]

@@Mac-eo4bc Ya but Ye was completely right

[@spider-spectre]

Exactly, we get abused, hit, and kicked in the balls then we get a cookie and they get mad if we dont accept that as an apology.

[@steveouk90126]

Always fascinating to see the "This _saves_ Star Wars!" from the people who previously claimed that Star Wars is unspoiled before _this_ moment.

[@SpookyMarine]

I also see people making stupid theories about if Luke is going to help. Like do these people not remember the sequel trilogy or something? No matter what happens it ends in shit anyway, and Luke isn’t going to succeed in whatever happens

[@mojebi3804]

@@SpookyMarine what sequel trilogy?

[@alexc8873]

​@@DontReadMyProfilePicture.104😂 Well Done!

[@mrouncervideos2905]

They haters. Especially the thick glasses nerd

[@senseishu937]

Those people are the ones saying that the sequels sucked what are you talking about?

[@doctormeatball7618]

"I member Star Wars!" It went from a joke to a mantra. We live in a parody dimension, boys.

[@chasehedges6775]

We live in the worst timeline

[@firstlast9846]

*Imagine* being a normal fan - having only watched the prequels and OG trilogy.. then all of a sudden you watch this and all of sudden Anakin had an apprentice he’d never mentioned? This franchise has basically left the casuals behind 💀

[@speedycerviche2380]

Its a parody of itself. There is zero creativity. Filoni is a hack.

[@TheMaleRei]

@@firstlast9846 Worse, when the Disney Fans say - "You need to watch 28 hours of Rebels, and 62 hours of Clone Wars in order to get it! Come on, bro! Get with it, bro!" You know the best way to continue the Ashoka and Feloni Fangirls storyline(s)? Books and comics. Far less costly that way. Instead we have TV series which is thousands upon thousands of times more expensive than any book series will ever be.

[@phonepunk7888]

At one point Anakin almost literally says "Remember the Clone Wars?" to Ahsoka. I'm like, yeah I heard of that in a movie called STAR WARS that came out in 1977. They acting like this is some deep lore looool.

[@kaareholck7359]

The dog reacted when Drinker waved the gun around. Took it a good minute, before it decided things were safe

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

He got excited because he thought they were about to go hunting

[@huntz0r]

The first time I became acutely aware of a certain type of modern storytelling was 10 years ago, when Dexter and Breaking Bad were both airing their final episodes. It was one hell of an object lesson to contrast the two shows in real time. Breaking Bad's plot develops according to who the characters are as people, and naturally unfolding consequences of characters' previous choices and actions on themselves and the people around them. While Dexter's plot seemed to develop according to people in the writer's room yelling out random idea sentences that start with the words "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if..." This is the approach that is making current Star Wars and Marvel and tons of other properties. "Hey wouldn't it be cool if we brought back Hayden as Anakin?" Nothing to do with whether the story needs this to happen, it's just a cool thing we want to see, so throw something together to half way justify doing it and then do it. Our culture has had its sense- and meaning-making apparatus rotted away by social media and Tik Tok, so that it no longer desires sensible and meaningful narrative, it just craves short bursts of dopamine. A cheap thrill that is quickly forgotten because it's time to move on to NEXT PRODUCT is exactly what the people in charge of these properties are trying to create. It isn't that they are incompetent storytellers (although they probably are that, too), rather they aren't even trying to tell a story in the first place. They are doing Tik Tok storytelling, or in other words, stimulation. And there is an audience of people who desperately want this stimulation. It's meaningless, and a waste of time, and unhealthy and ultimately is part of the unraveling of society. I don't know how we stop it, except by continuing to write good stories and put them out in the world.

[@MichaSennin]

Great Comment, well written!

[@dontbeasadsoulja]

Amen.

[@KaijaKFanpages]

Yeah right! Watching 5 seasons of Breaking Bad is like watching the paint dry. Except you still might be in a positive mindset after watching the paint dry.

[@CATAZTR0PHE]

Wise words.

[@Ruylopez778]

"Nothing to do with whether the story needs this to happen, it's just a cool thing we want to see, so throw something together to half way justify doing it and then do it." You mean the padawan of Anakin, facing a crisis of conscience, having just been confronted and mocked by a fallen Jedi that knew what happened to Anakin, and accused her of following in Vader's footsteps, while struggling with her own responsibilities as a mentor, on the verge of another war, much like her time as a child soldier fighting alongside her mentor Anakin? It's not like this show is a continuation of the character we saw in TCW and Rebels, where she fought alongside Anakin, left him, and fought him, or that she recently met a Jedi youngling who survived Order 66, with a deep attachment, and Anakin's son.... Christ on a bike, how do so many people attack this show as being 'bad writing' without even thinking for split second about who the characters are, their motivations or any of the themes of Star Wars? "A cheap thrill that is quickly forgotten because it's time to move on to NEXT PRODUCT is exactly what the people in charge of these properties are trying to create" You mean like spending 2008-2023 developing the character of Ahsoka through TCW and her relationship with Anakin (and his relationship with Obi-Wan) and the clones, and then her disillusionment before joining forces with a band of rebels to stop the Empire, and trying to prevent another war with the New Republic? It's not like we saw Ahsoka die in TCW Mortis arc and get brought back to life via the life force of a god, or get pulled into the World Between Worlds, that makes her death and rebirth almost inevitable, or the fact that Star Wars has always used the tropes and conventions of myth and the Hero's Journey, is it? It's like someone explained Star Wars to you over the phone and have no idea what's been happening canonically since 2008. If you want to talk about 'culture being rotted away' it's the disease of this kind of hyperbolic opinion and generalisation being confused with a genuine argument. Your comment is both lazy and without any credible support, and yet equally cynical viewers that come here to be reassured that their opinion and frustration is 'fact' are desperate to agree.

[@edwindejesus73]

Happy to see Hayden getting more love, hes been a highlight in this show and Kenobi. He did great merging his own performance and the clone wars version of Anakin. Also young Ahsoka was really good.

[@firstlast9846]

tbh I wanna see him in new roles.. not sitting on the bench waiting for Disney to call him up for a 5 minute cameo 🤷🏾‍♂️ Anakin’s story is done - it’s nice to see him - but we honestly need to move on from the prequels and OG trilogy.. great as they are - it’s killing Star Wars to be so stuck in the past with old characters.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

⁠​⁠@@firstlast9846The problem is most of the fanbase wants these cameos and callbacks more than new stories. Just look at the viewership of Kenobi compared with the viewership of Andor. One was a masterpiece and the other was an embarrassing mess. And the numbers showed they would rather have a mess than a masterpiece as long as they can have their memberberries.

[@brooke9446]

I really liked the young Ahsoka actress’s performance and the CW scenes. I don’t blame Rosario for her performance, but the younger actress definitely outshined Dawson in this. It’s too bad those flashback scenes belong in a better show.

[@MrAsmontero]

​@@Lobsterwithinternetit wasn't really about the callback and cameo. It about Ahsoka's journey and her guilt. I think this whole video misses the point.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@MrAsmontero And those are called Callbacks, especially when they bring in 1/2 to 3/4 of the cast of two separate animated shows in a show about one character. And do you think this show would have the numbers it has if it was all new characters?

[@IBTU]

Disney: Completely out of ideas

[@chasehedges6775]

MODERN Disney is out of ideas

[@alexdeghost2729]

This character arc for Ahsoka has been built up for YEARS

[@TheMaleRei]

@@alexdeghost2729 It was clearly made for you. I pray you enjoy it for what it is.

[@billsutherby]

​@alexdeghost2729 And it's resulted in nothing of consequence. "Do you want to live or die?" "I want to live" "OK. Off ya go!" Wow. Thrilling character building... So much drama and insight...

[@spider-spectre]

We live in a timeline where Space Balls was more true to the source material than Disney SW.

[@TheoJay615]

I heard that there were Memberberries so I tuned in to the first half of episode 5. It was nice to see Hayden, but Memberberries alone will NOT be enough to make me watch a show. The flaw with relying on fan service is that it just reminds people that there are BETTER things to watch/rewatch.

[@alexdeghost2729]

Congrats! You missed the point.

[@samjohnstonemusic6328]

@@alexdeghost2729????

[@MarvinHartmann452]

If you pay for Disney +, you are one of the reasons why we can't have nice things.

[@w29n22b27]

Exactly!

[@Kino_pup]

⁠@@MarvinHartmann452I agree. I don’t pay for it. A while back after some stupid thing I watched, I told my in laws that they can just cancel it because idc about Disney anymore. They said it just came included in the package deal and aren’t really paying for it. So f$ck me.. I just don’t watch now.

[@praiza1481]

I have two more grudges against this episodes, aside from everything mentionned here : 1. The Force does enable to look into "the past", or rather memories attached to places or objects. We saw that with Cal Kestis from Fallen Order. The Force does allow you to communicate with animals, we saw that with Cal Kestis as well and especially with Ezra. So there used to be peculiar powers which only certain people could use. Cal could sense memories, Ezra was really really good at communicating with living beings, and so their narrative was built upon those particularities. Now when it comes to Ahsoka she can just do whatever she wants! Now she can just rewind into the past and see what happened to Sabine, she can communicate with the space whales, and none of that was introduced before, despite how useful it is. It's just lazy writing. 2. Hayden was a joy to look upon, especially during fight scenes. You can see the training he put into it. His strikes are precise and brutal, his movements swift, his pirouettes fast. He emanates martial mastery. Rosario Dawson on the other hand seems awkward and sluggish. Did she refuse to put any work into the choreography, or was it intentionnal from the show runner? Either way, she looks lame in any fight scene, especially when comparing to her animated counterpart

[@Uzarran]

In Rosario's defense, it's unlikely Disney would have invested that much time and effort to train up the rest of the cast to Hayden's level of skill. She's probably doing her best with the limited instructions she's been given.

[@RambleOn07]

Tbf, Rosario Dawson is a 44 year old woman without an athletics background. It kind of makes sense that she moves like it.

[@bethanyh1637]

Stupid Ahsoka should just Force Healed that clone trooper, instead of just getting all mopey about it.

[@praiza1481]

@@RambleOn07 And that's why stunt doubles exist

[@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564]

​@@RambleOn07why the fuck hire her then? Lucas hired Christopher Lee and Ian McDarmid but they had doubles.... Also Ewan McGregor is in his 50's and does a better job

[@Eazy-ERyder]

I have immensely enjoyed these last couple of episodes. Hayden did great and so did Thrawn in his entrance. It will DEFINITELY be remembered.

[@larosha1]

Enjoy. I gave up on Disney Star Wars and am happy with watching and reading pre-Disney stuff. If you haven’t already check out the EU Thrawn books

[@Hollyclown]

Another episode of memberberries that people will only talk about for a week.

[@ephraimwinslow]

It's genuinely amazing how flash in the pan modern IPs are. How many people still care about Twilight? Or the Hunger Games? (I'm pretty sure the honest answer would be a negative integer.)

[@brandonm4550]

10 minutes of a 50 minute episode are all anyone is talking about and even then they have zero clue as to what happened or if any of it had some meaning. The fact they're trying to figure out meaning in something Filioni wrote is hilarious in itself.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

@@ephraimwinslow People seem to be very excited about the Hunger Games prequel that's coming out...And Twilight is immortilized by the memes.

[@alexdeghost2729]

This will last a long time because its was more than memberberries. It's a chapter of Ahsoka's life that has been built up for years. Leave Star Wars and NEVER come back until you stop riding the short bus.

[@alexdeghost2729]

I know the meaning cuz it's quite clear. You'd honestly have to be a low IQ typical bimbo not to understand the lesson 😂@@brandonm4550

[@coda7994]

I havent watched a second of this show, but I'm enjoying these reviews thoroughly

[@chasehedges6775]

The reviews are better than the show

[@alphacause]

The only silver lining of any of Marvel or Star Wars shows that Disney has released lately is that we get to see the likes of Drinker, Nerdrotic, Disparu, Baggage Claim, HeelvsBabyFace and others dissect and lampoon them.

[@alexdeghost2729]

I'd watch the show. The Drinker is pretty dead wrong about this one lol

[@DarkStryder360]

It's a pretty good show. I don't understand the blind hatred toward Disney. Most people DON'T remember the clone wars, because we didn't watch the animated show.

[@coda7994]

@@alexdeghost2729 I can't if I wanted to, I got rid of Disney +

[@jasonwrathorn9281]

Part of the issue with the Force is that many of these powers existed in the EU, but they were possessed by disparate groups with their own unique traditions.... Some characters learned to use other techniques, but it wasn't a thing you just did at need when the plot demanded. It took time and training.... one of many things that Disney/Lucasfilm can't be bothered to do anymore!

[@jamesmccallum6770]

Here tells her son not to wonder far as it may not be safe, then she flys off and leaves him there alone 🤯

[@she-venom9842]

She doesn't even show any emotions just like other modern female characters

[@pritikinaa]

She's a terrible general and a terrbile mom.

[@phonepunk7888]

Yes! I noticed this the first time I watched too. The timing was very bad, it felt like only a scene or two apart.

[@OoohZoom]

She also took her son to a warzone

[@Funinightmare]

"Ohhh my gawwwd We finally got Anakin and Ahsoka fight!" We already got that in Rebels. Ahsoka facing the real non ghost Darth Vader on Malachor felt way more like a character development and confrontation than this, written by the same guy no less

[@Anayoth]

Dave Filoni was always a hack who piggybacked off of Lucas.

[@VladtheInhaler]

Idc about them fighting, but I was super happy to see Hayden get the chance to do his best Vader without the suit.

[@marcmarc1967]

I'm gonna say there were many more hands involved in Rebels, and more talented and passionate ones at that. There had to be. The show was just too good. I think Dave gave a rough outline, and better people took over.

[@Funinightmare]

@@VladtheInhaler Actually, I still don't like how it was done but one thing I can say, Finally Anakin Skywalker with a red lightsaber. So at least that. But truth be told, the force awakens had concept art of an Anakin force ghost that was part Anakin and part Vader, I kept hoping this would get picked up and actually used, but this never took up the opportunity to do that. Oh well

[@Funinightmare]

@@marcmarc1967 Couldn't have said it better myself mate. The worst critic is yourself and goes to show that it's important to listen to your co workers. Actors, writers, visual effects artists, cameramen even the guy who makes your coffee could have a good insight that you were blind to. Dave Filoni seems to have forgotten that he wouldn't be were he is without the guidance of a wise mentor.

[@floweralligator]

Man, if only baggage claim and rags was on this panel! Would be 10/10 :) love yalls

[@Declopse]

And Robot head

[@jwroot]

I really want to know what Baggage Claim thinks of Ahsoka. It's got a lot of female empowerment.

[@jamesrussell2051]

The Critical Doggo has the best reaction to all of it. Its my same reaction when people talk about Star Wars.

[@2012sonora]

I think the problem is that the writers want certian beats and certain moments, but don't do anything to set them up or earn them. It's like some weird scrapbook of emotional moments from better stories

[@phonepunk7888]

Yes, it really feels like they are just leaning on the work done by others. I guess you shouldn't be surprised by this, Filoni's entire career is based on playing in George's sandbox. The whole Anakin/Ahsoka thing felt like they were trying to seem deep about some kind of internal struggle, a struggle not once mentioned or hinted at in the previous 4 episodes of the show. The very first Star Wars released begins in the middle of the action and nobody was confused about who Darth Vader was or who these rebels were or any of it. Because George knew what he was doing. This is just bad writing.

[@RambleOn07]

Female storytelling. It's just about "hitting" those emotional moments, it has zero interest in anything else.

[@Super_Ammo]

Good analogy.

[@yuin3320]

I don't know about others but I struggle with this a lot in my own writings. Its the reason I haven't tried publishing anything. I eventually get to a point where I look back and realize I've been pushing too much towards certain events, dynamics or even just imagery, and it just seems unnatural and it's not letting characters breathe enough of their own life. Then the break in momentum of trying to figure out how to fix it, just kills my ability to keep writing a story. I wish these writers had at least some of that restraint.

[@yuin3320]

​@@RambleOn07What the hell does that say about Zack Snyder?

[@leonardodavi2695]

4:15 "WTF even was Anakin in this? is he a Force ghost? is he a memory? is he an imaginary friend? is he a fragment of, like, Anakin's conciousness trapped in the world between worlds?" It will be whatever the writer will need it to be by the end, regardless of how stupid it is. Until then he is all of it at the same time. It's what we call Schrodinger's cameo.

[@gzz8551]

NEVERMIND ALL THAT.... ITS HAYDEN!!!!! (Remember, that shit actor from the prequels??)

[@AlphaAurora]

I love the part where Hayden Christenson had too fluid of a motion, and too fast of an attack, so he slowed down and had to struggle against Adult Ahsoka. Strangely enough, Star Wars fans are like the Andor prison. They got flavour in their nutrient-paste-food and think the sludge is great.

[@mattrasp1615]

Imo Anakin is not going for the jugular despite the dark side appearance. Kinda defeats the whole purpose

[@AlphaAurora]

@@mattrasp1615 Great point.....if the Dark Side doesn't kill, then what will? IIRC, that was a whole piece of the Sith philosophy too.

[@chasecreamer727]

Anakin was testing Ahsoka and wasn’t intending to kill her.

[@AlphaAurora]

@@chasecreamer727 Which was why he went dark side mode activate? I guess Anakin going to Vader is a light switch that he controls now. Or something.

[@vonpredator]

Current starwars D+ fans are happy with sludge… and the go over the moon if a couple of flecks of Oregano are dropped in. That in effect ruins it for the rest of us.

[@chasehedges6775]

Soooo true.

[@assassinscreedwalkthroughs7314]

The average viewership is about 2 million. They are definitely a vocal minority

[@MrAsmontero]

I disagree. I didn't enojoyed obi wan, book of bobba fett or mandalorian season 3, but I'm enjoying Ahsoka a lot (even though I've never seen clone wars or rebels).

[@vonpredator]

@@MrAsmontero Cool! Did you enjoy Andor? I did… I’m just not feeling the story of Ahsoka. Saw and enjoyed clone wars didn’t see rebels…. The characters Sabin and Hera are so insufferable and take ridiculous actions…. It just pulls me out of the story. Shame…. Well, we’ll see where the story takes us…

[@MrAsmontero]

@@vonpredator I did enjoyed Andor a lot. It took me a couple of episodes to get into it. But after finishing it, I watched it a couple of times more!

[@emperorsean1]

I always wanted hayden christensen to come back as a force ghost to train luke and guide him but of course Disney denied us that.

[@DisapprovingPigeon]

The Clone Wars will always be memorable, this show will be forgotten after a month or so. The quality difference is insane, probably because Lucas had a large part in creating the Clone Wars show.

[@awesomeerr8765]

You can tell Hayden wants to be faster in fight scenes but rosario cant keep up.

[@juliebartlett4222]

Dude's a legend.

[@Nickalzz]

Yeah it’s painful to watch. She moves like a slug 🐌.

[@morgoth_edits]

just a reminder: it takes this show fifty minutes to teach a 40 year old ahsoka a lesson that she already ducking learned in ONE scene from ONE episode of clone wars when she was like, 14. great job, guys.

[@RealFreedomMG]

But Anakin hadn't fallen at that point in the story her fear of loss has been something she has been going through since the Clone Wars the same with Anakin but this is the first time she is now in the position Anakin was when he was training her.

[@texasbeast239]

You can't re-teach old dogs old tricks.

[@toegrit]

Anakin hadn't turned yet. She hadn't been stabbed in the back by the Order at that point either. Quite a bit happened since that point, including her learning Anakin turned evil and slaughtered Jedi. There's legit criticism of the show but most I see are fucking dumb made by idiots who don't even know or understand SW lore. The funnier criticisms are those that apply directly to the original and prequel trilogies.

[@tipsyt1909]

Then you didn’t understand the lesson in this episode

[@drugaddicter]

@typsit1999 I didn't understand either. Could you explain?

[@theviewer1423]

when she got pushed off the cliff she really was a soaker

[@spiceweasel8972]

“People die when they are killed.” - Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker. I think…

[@MichaelAChristian1]

"The jedi turned AGAINST ME! DON'T YOU TURN AGAINST ME!".

[@xipheonj]

Right at the end you had to stab my brain with the idea of an original trilogy remake. Now I'm picturing Jane Skywalker who grew up on Tatooine and taught herself the force. She runs into the broken Old Ben who she rescues from Tusken Raiders so he gifts her her own lightsaber as thanks. He tells her about the rebels so she challenges Helen Solo to a game which she obviously wins and secures passage off the planet. They then rescue Prince Louie, an empty headed weak manlet that thanks Jane and constantly tells her how amazing she is. She then joins the rebels and destroys the death star on her first shot. C-3PO is unchanged, he's already a weak willed servant so he can keep his male voice.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

So cool to see Chato on the stream. That dude is awesome!

[@scottmiles824]

The irony of how Hayden was given so much hate when the prequels came out and considered the thing that ruined Star Wars and now he’s the one out of all the actors Disney brought back that got given the best material

[@juliebartlett4222]

Not gonna lie: I was one of the haters. I know better now, being older and more scarred.

[@JC-zj2is]

Not a knock on Rosario Dawson who is older and probably doesn’t have great agility and coordination… but you can tell Hayden and Ewan took the role seriously by how intense they trained their saber choreography! Haydens “bladework” in a short scene is better than anything i saw in the Sequel trilogy.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

Seeing people praising that show like it's best thing ever because they threw some nostalgia in it makes me think that the star wars fandom deserves what they get.

[@TheMaleRei]

The Disney Wars fandom does receive exactly what they deserve from Disney.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

​@@TheMaleReiAgree.

[@CarlWheatley-wi2cl]

As someone who first watched the original in 1980 and has seen and read much of the EU content, including all of clone wars and rebels, I can't be asked to watch any more (and I made it through ALL of Bobba Fett). It's a show aimed at those imprisoned in Star Wars nostalgia, just a thing that feeds on itself.

[@senseishu937]

I'm sorry for your loss in the boba Fett show 😂

[@8ligh7]

The audience really likes to consoom those member berries even when they are covered in shit. Cool to see Hayden back in action though. You could totally see the difference in skill level of someone who put in the work for the duels in the prequels vs Disney SW. I just wish that if they were going to have Hayden return as Anakin, that he would be in a show that's considerably better written than something like Kenobi or Ahsoka. The whole thing just feels like such a waste of potential.

[@katerinasamajova4048]

This. I couldn't care less for Disney content, I just watched Hayden's parts in episode 5 and didn't care for the rest. Praising Feloni's brilliance would be a big, big stretch, it was all Hayden and his awesomeness people are finally seeing. But the nostalgia baiting in these series is just bloody obvious, and ridiculous.

[@defeqel6537]

It's funny how Hayden got all that flak for the poor dialogue of the prequels, but is way above anything in Disney SW in terms of acting / passion

[@jlev1028]

​@@defeqel6537That's because they had him act like Matt Lucas.

[@bordocofrivia2896]

Anyone who cried at this table scraps worth of shameless nostalgia needs to see a therapist, because being immature to the point where you are a child in an adults' body, bawling over corporate produced, low quality television is NOT healthy.

[@paramjoshi7264]

Somehow Anakin returns

[@ethanhunstiger4868]

To be fair, I could see a trained force user holding their breath for hours through some kind of meditative trance. Context matters though.

[@nilesrodriguez4343]

Whats interesting to me is the member berries are apparently working. I've only been seeing people talk positively about this episode until now.

[@alexdeghost2729]

Thats cuz the episode is more than memberberries you bimbo XD

[@arscente3279]

Because these member berries are actually done well and serve a purpose.

[@nilesrodriguez4343]

@@arscente3279 Is Star Wars saved now?

[@arscente3279]

@@nilesrodriguez4343 Not necessarily, but why does one show have to save a whole franchise? That has to be done through a streak of consistently good projects at this point. The fan service here didn’t feel shallow nor was it irrelevant. It ties this show in to years of storytelling from Clone Wars and Rebels that develops the main character. Ahsoka actually worked towards this point and earned it unlike Rey, who meets every legacy character and is handed everything.

[@Calactic]

That's the entire point

[@LimblessAnt]

The reason she has to have teleported I would say is: 1. Yeah she would have drowned otherwise, she was there for several hours 2. She fell into the water by the rocks with waves crashing into them, so she would have been demolished on the rocks and thats that 3. Similarly, she probably couldnt have gotten out to that point in the ocean (apparently past the horizon from the cliff since the kid couldn't see the ships rescue her) since she fell at the point where the water shouldve just pushed her against the land

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Sabine survived a lightsaber stab like a teapot burn, you think Filoni cares?

[@LimblessAnt]

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p Just hoping he put a itty bit of thought into it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he put out a tweet saying she didn't teleport and refuses to elaborate

[@neocomp92]

There was a time when writers were skillful to transform meta into plausible in-universe explanations as to why something occurs in story. You're not supposed to make the audience see the puppeteer's hands. Now people are gullible enough to maintain suspension of disbelief even though the magic was revealed and explained to them.

[@user-lf9vx1qj4e]

Here is my interpretation, and unfortunately it fits within the “new” Disney Star Wars, going back to Rebels Karan’s Jedi Knight trial was facing off against the Jedi Guardians and then he was granted the rank of Jedi Knight. In Star Wars: Fallen Order, Cal faced his former master in some kind of force dream before he was granted the title Jedi Knight. My fear is this was Ahsoka’s Jedi Knight trial and now she is going to claim that “The Force” has granted her the title of Jedi Knight, or worse, Jedi Master so she can now be crammed into the new Rey movie and be Rey’s teacher and Rey can say that she was trained by Jedi Master Ahsoka. That story is convoluted enough for Disney’s Star Wars.

[@ShawnGilbert1967]

God damn that's probably exactly it...

[@whatisreddin7367]

She already passed her trial in season 5 episode 20 but decided to leave instead so nah

[@user-lf9vx1qj4e]

@@whatisreddin7367 soooooo…. She is going to claim she is a Jedi Master now. Great.

[@KrazzeeKane]

I honest-to-god never thought I would look back on the Prequels and the whole Clone Wars era with extreme fondness and a deeply heartfelt longing, but holy crap Disney has done it. Disney has truly killed all my joy, enthusiasm, and happiness with Star Wars media, and the entire brand as a whole. I am saddened to be forced into being essentially a "former" Star Wars fan, and its such a shame that this is the reality Disney has worked so hard for. Hand to god, I would happily take Lucas and his crazy, unhinged attempts back. Say what you will about the prequels and their many issues--but no one can deny that they still *feel* like actual Star Wars films. It just has that intrinsic soul of the franchise that the sequel trilogy, especially 8 and 9, severely lacked. Damn you, Disney. What a colossal waste of a titanic franchise...

[@etkruger]

People like y’all make it hard to openly enjoy stuff

[@townsjim]

There's more soul in the N64 Rouge Squadron menu system tham the entire show of Ashoka

[@Dazgul]

We learned that drowning when you're unconcious under water for hours is a choice. I feel better now

[@harryalpert8002]

i'm that old guy who was in line may 25th, 1977. nothing since the first three movies have been as exciting.

[@theDWshow]

What's extraordinary to me is the fan fervour for Anakin is based on his animated appearances, which weren't even voiced by Christensen. So he's in this weird position of reaping all this fan love for his "return" when the character the fans grew to know and love was animated, and not even him. That must feel utterly bizarre for the actor.

[@juliebartlett4222]

Many of us have learned to appreciate what we didn't understand before. He played the role exactly as he should have.

[@theDWshow]

@@juliebartlett4222that doesn't really relate to what I said at all, but if you're happy - great.

[@tsukopara2054]

I don't think it's that severe. For older zoomers, Christensen's Anakin was their Luke - he was a massively popular character, merchandise flew off the shelves, he was in every game, marketed everywhere, but that generation of children obviously wasn't writing the reviews. A lot of it is presentation, Christensen has a lot of screen presence, looks the part, and is very physically able. He also just looks really cool in the costume. It's also come out more and more over the years that Christensen was ruined in the director's chair and editing room. We've seen multiple unused takes of scenes where his performance is great, which Lucas then strips down to fit his vision, or scenes where they've clearly used a different angle than what was intended and made him look strange. He's also talked since 2005 about how he wanted to incorporate more of the military general/Han Solo rogue elements to the character, but Lucas wanted more of a wayward young man direction.

[@JonahsWail]

That’s the interpretation on Ahsoka, she’s processing a lot of stuff resulting from the fact that she was Vader’s padawan. Unfortunately the show doesn’t communicate that at all.

[@kanjiklubskywalker4951]

i liked the anakin-darth vader blink thing for what it was visually but i still recognise that ahsoka is a mindless husk of star wars and just a staring contest between everyone in this damn show

[@Rome__king]

"Palpatine was right i was wrong bring back the empire!" lmaooooo i said the same thing the moment I saw the end if rebels show LOL

[@charlesarlingtonauthor]

A story which honors this universe is soon to come. To re-establish old, and lost fantasies.

[@AtlantaGuns]

They should have made a series with Hayden and young Ahsoka would have been 10X better. That little young actor has more charisma than this entire cast combined 😂

[@dakotanichols8533]

Maybe Filoni is just high-level trolling us and plans to keep bringing Ahsoka into every project and then giving her another "Gandalf the White" moment each time in perpetuity until fans finally stop praising it like a stroke of brilliance every time. I want an "Ashoka the White" moment in every series she's a part of until she is so enlightened that she becomes the 2001 Starchild

[@jeffagain7516]

Thanks for mentioning "Grizzy" for the gang Gary! I was binging on some of his excellent vids last night in fact and yeah, his Ahsoka Vids are outstanding! :)

[@ruthlopez5806]

I just love how Felony completely forgets what they just did during Clone Wars. Morai used to be Ahsoka's companion after Anakin saved her life at Mortis, if I recall it was some representation that a deity called Ashla lived in her. I think what she saw was just a vision and it perhaps happened in a couple of seconds and that's cool and all but the lesson... i don't know, perhaps they tried to do something profound but it backfired. When she says she chooses to live, what does that mean? Is she now turning into a pacifist that refuses to fight? And if so, how does that fit into the story? In order for the galaxy to live, someone, the villains most of the time, have to die. A sacrifice must be made. Such wasted potential there

[@alexdeghost2729]

You're such a bimbo 😂 Ahsoka was on the brink of death. She has to choose to live or die. The lesson Anakin is teaching her is to stop feeling the guilt of his own fall because she's much more than that. She's felt that it was her fault he became Darth Vader since Rebels and hasn't gotten over that, which is why she's stoic and unemotional until now. This is also shown metaphorically with her guilt over the clone deaths, feeling her actions led to a legacy of death and destruction. "It is time for you to face your guilt and free yourself by choosing" - The Father.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Morai was even in Mandalorian.

[@TheMaleRei]

@@alexdeghost2729 The concept of the Father, Mother, Sister, Brother, Son, Daughter, 2nd Cousin Eight Times Removed in Star Wars - was dumb.

[@ruthlopez5806]

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p I know 😕. That's the part that gets me really frustrated. Like, this is Ahsoka' show but half of what makes the character is gone.

[@ruthlopez5806]

@@TheMaleRei don't know who the second cousin is but I liked the lore of the Mortis gods, it was a nice hint as to how powerful Anakin/Vader was.

[@christophergillette7167]

To me, the single biggest problem is having so many directors with so many ideas failing to tell a single story. The first two episodes felt downright absurd at times. Episode 3 was… less… absurd, but only in the context of some stuff that happened in… the cartoons. There were *aspects* of 4 that I actually loved. And (only due to me having watched said cartoons) I actually felt like I knew what’s happening in episode 5. Even her calm reaction in the world between worlds kinda worked IF you have watched all the cartoons, which you can’t demand the viewers all do. But it NEEDED a single mind directing it. All of this needed to be cohesive.

[@darrylmars]

I read a youtube comment, " I am a fan, so I will like the show whether it is good or not." That explains it.

[@kevinmccabe7263]

Watched that Grizzy video Gary mentioned, very good recommendation! Also watching that many sycophants was soul sucking, the world has fallen to the idiots.

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

Was that guy who cried on his honeymoon about the trailer in it?

[@luniz4209]

I would really enjoy seeing one of you guys doing a video essay on the topic Gary mentioned regarding "it all happens in her head" and how that doesn't mean anything - in general, not just specific to this show. I've always hated that trope/cheat of having some significant character development happening entirely within a character's mind (usually without any real world repercussions for failing)

[@beingzur1637]

Loved the part where you guys get more analytical about it around half way of the vid talking about character development and stuff, im interested in that. More of that please!

[@TheZuratos]

thanks for letting us know about grizzy, been having a great laugh

[@100hellcaretaker]

Drinker: "You could fix all of this by having Ray Stevenson (Baylan) know what she did in the Clone Wars and play on that" Previous episode showed him doing exactly that during the duel. Telling her that her legacy is death and destruction (same as Anakin) and that she literally doesn't know any other way than violence. In this episode she basically repeats what Baylan told her to Anakin; in the context of both her fighting in the Clone Wars and him becoming Vader and Ahsoka being afraid of going down the same path ("If I am everything you are..."). This show is really not that hard to analyse (one just needs to actually listen to the dialogue); but I guess it's more difficult when your opinion has already been made before even watching it and you're not paying attention. And obviously it's not just happening in her head, as Anakin references events of the OT ('I won't fight you' -> 'I've heard that before' - being the obvious reference to Luke's "I won't fight you father").

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

So she got into World between Worlds, the only door to which was destroyed in Rebels, by falling into water? Checks out...

[@Ruylopez778]

The level of snark from these channels is so desperate. If they applied the same cynicism to the OT, it's just as bad as they're claiming this is. It's funny how Drinker plays gatekeeper that people excited with this show don't have any cinematic or storytelling knowledge. Most the stuff he praises as examples of quality is 80s and 90s mainstream genre movies.

[@Ruylopez778]

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p Did you miss the part where this saga has been fairytale since 1977?

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

@@Ruylopez778 Even fairytales have established rules. Why do you think there used to be tension that heroes can lose if the Force can just do anything?

[@Ruylopez778]

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p You must have been pissed when Obi-Wan was a force ghost without explanation, or when Luke got electrocuted and survived, then.

[@TurKlack]

Ever since Failoni got his hands on Star Wars it has gradually become more and more like a magic world. With Lasersword Crystals that are sentient and test their chosen user in a life threatening quest and are hidden to anyone but their chosen user, like the Harry Potter magic wands. The Nightdipshits use actual magic that is straight up better than anything the Force can do. Worlds between Worlds, magical Apes and Doggos that are breaking the very World of Star Wars and the Force in it's entirety. And yet. failoni is supposedly a writing god. And all he touched is the best thing ever.

[@Kaweebo]

As someone who watched seven seasons of Clone Wars and four seasons of Rebels, no, none of those interpretations come from there. Ahsoka’s big thing when she learned Anakin was Vader was she felt bad she left him when she did because she felt like she may have been able to keep him from falling to the dark side. And guess what? She got over it in season 4.

[@tom-dn8md]

Here's my example of Star Wars writers. The person sits down with morning Starbucks. Needs name for bad character. Stares at coffee. Barrissta Coffee...... and Barriss Offee is born.

[@Aikurisu]

I think the biggest casualty with this Ahsoka show is how the fanbase is so desperate to defend it, despite its flaws. The storytelling in it is absolutely frakkin' terrible yet it does my soul good that it has had similar ratings to Andor, which had a far better story by comparison, despite being based around a guy with zero fandom compared to the sacred cow that is Filoni's Ahsoka. And I'm honestly perfectly fine with that. Andor stood on its own merits whereas Ahsoka is pulling every single cheap trick to win its audience over. Even worse than Mando's S2 finale.

[@Blu3-Fir3]

The fact that people fell for the nostalgia bait *again* is just sad. It's just Luke vs the robots in the Mandilorian OR Vader vs the Rebels in Rogue One. Filoni knows how to jingle keys to keep people's attention - he did it that trick several times in Clone Wars and Rebels. You'd think they'd have learned that this is only a temporary boost. It never lasts longer than a week at most until the next episode gets released. A year from now, I doubt anyone will remember this scene as good.

[@alexdeghost2729]

You're such a short bus rider :joy: THIS scene has been built up for YEARS and is an actual story being told rather than just a fan service cameo. Dingas. Get lost you scrub

[@jaymea8907]

That Vader scene in Rogue One was some epic shit tbf

[@user-xy7bh5ht1g]

Ahsoka managed to answer a 50/50 question right on the second try.

[@BBanzaj]

7:00 funny thing is, she had that "when i lead people may die" struggles back in clone wars show, in fact, not once but twice, first time she just got lectured by anakin how this is the nature of conflict and she has to live with it, second time she fucked up her command so bad that the jedi council basicly grounded her for a week. You would think that when she already had this arc twice that it would be done and dealt with for her character and it would not come up a third time... but here we are

[@afanofpeanuts7381]

The show is dope

[@billsutherby]

It's made by dopes. For dopes

[@afanofpeanuts7381]

@@billsutherby geez, im sry you feel this way. Could someone please bring me a violin?

[@Ruylopez778]

@@afanofpeanuts7381 Nah, you're not allowed to like this, because Drinker wants Star Wars to be made for fans. And any fans who like this have to be mocked and dismissed because reasons... He's got to make his hate videos for the $$$

[@RiverwestRich]

The world between worlds is the stupidest thing ever added to Star Wars.

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

Well there was also the time travel rock they found in the Lego SW Holiday Special so Rey could go back and save Luke or Yoda or something. That is totally all real by the way, but people’s hatred of Disney SW is so strong most don’t even know it happened.

[@RiverwestRich]

@@donkeysaurusrex7881 time travel rock in a Lego holiday special? And Lego also contributes to star wars lore? My dislike of Disney star wars happened when they made a terrible movie and told me if I didn't like it, I was the problem.

[@whysoserious652]

and not to mention hera kept reminding everyone that she's a general, like million times.

[@TurKlack]

The very fact that Mauler found that many different interpretation only underlines the problem of everything Failoni makes. His Story makes no sense. So the Fans come up with their own Story.

[@Sacrilege83]

There's such a thing as being too negative that you become a buzz kill. There's criticism and then there's beecoming a cheerleader to a black void like you're part of a team.

[@brandonm4550]

Can someone please tell me the deeper meaning that these Disney shill fans keep saying happened in this episode? They can't even tell you if it took place in the world between worlds, Ashoka's mind or Anakin was even Anakin.

[@alexdeghost2729]

Well it's made to be ambiguous as Lucas has often done with force lore, for one. Two, we know that was Anakin because he mentions Luke's encounter with him in ROTJ. Ahsoka: I won't fight you Anakin: I've heard that before. Here's the lesson. Ahsoka feels like she's to blame for Anakin's fall to the dark side by abandoning him (as seen in Rebels). She's fallen under the same flaws the Jedi council did in the PT as seen in the Mandalorian and this series. That's why she talks to stoically as well. Hell, one of the reasons she lost is cuz her mind was imbalanced due to Baylon taunting her about Anakin and their legacy. Anakin's lesson here is to stop blaming herself for his fall as it was his choice and not her's. This is shown metaphorically through her guilt of the clone deaths with her feeling her actions got them killed. She then tells Anakin what Baylon told her about her legacy being death and destruction. Anakin tries to tell her she's more than that but once Ahsoka doubles down and says if she's everything he is, then Baylon was right, he sees she still hasn't learned his lesson, he takes the form of Darth Vader and makes her face him. To Quote The Father from Clone Wars, "It is time for you to face your guilt and know the truth. You must now release the guilt and free yourself by choosing" - The Father "I gave you a choice. Live or die." - Anakin. Anakin basically passes on the lesson Luke taught him to her and she goes under a similar situation. Embrace her anger and lose herself (die) or reject the darkness and stay true to herself (live). Now her mind is at balance at last and she's reborn as Ahsoka the White, as fans call her. And funny enough, if u freaking actually PAY ATTENTION to the previous episodes, her relationship and lessons to Sabine are tied to this as well.

[@brandonm4550]

@@alexdeghost2729 Except none of that is in this show nor should anyone need prior knowledge of any of that when watching this show. You would never understand any of that context based on what has been shown in 5 episodes. It a leap my friend and it poor writing and story telling.

[@Ruylopez778]

@@brandonm4550 So you asked. You were given a plausible interpretation, and your response was just to dismiss it and call it poor? Do you think that's a sophisticated way to behave? I know this is a grifter channel and people want to hear cynicism and mockery, but can't you think for yourself? If you were left confused you should try watching the show again. As said above, it is intentionally ambiguous, but you don't need to have watched TCW to understand that Ahsoka felt guilty, or realise that Anakin was referencing what he learned from Luke. Even the way Ahsoka throws the lightsaber down is straight out of ROTJ.

[@brandonm4550]

@@Ruylopez778 You have to take what you're given not any of the previous material almost no one has seen or read. As with my opening statement no one can even say if that was a dream, world between worlds or was actually Anakin. If thats a dream that's not Anakin.

[@Ruylopez778]

@@alexdeghost2729 Yep, nice concise take on it. We're not only the bad, and we're all part of a legacy, with something worthwhile to pass on. Mythology 101, and fits both characters to have that discussion. I think Ahsoka also needed to hear that she isn't only a warrior, that there's more to being a Jedi, (like Luke and Qui-Gon) than what they were twisted into during the Clone Wars. "You lack conviction" and "You're more than [a warrior]" also ties in quite nicely with Huyang's line, "Perhaps it is time to begin again?"

[@davidsummer8631]

This is Star Wars on default setting

[@BillPeschel]

Thanks for directing me to Grizzy's channel. These people are children in adult skins.

[@Adamadamadaaa]

This whole teleport theory sounds weird, because the trashbin droid found her while she was still in the world between worlds, so if she wasn't there how could the droid find her? is the droid also force sensitive? :'D

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

Haven’t you been paying attention? Everything is Force sensitive if it wants to be hard enough.

[@DeadShred9]

My only Question is where is mid 20's LUKE PRIME ???? If Thrawn is that Dangerous Luke would feel it during his Force Meditations and at least Join her crappy LS fighting Ass !!

[@TheMaleRei]

But Luke would steal the spotlight from Feloni's Waifu and Waifu Allies. Feloni would rather service KK.

[@DeadShred9]

@@TheMaleRei Finally a Educated Old School SW Fan ! Thank You

[@jamesmccallum6770]

I'm sick of lightsabres. The 8 year old me would cry to hear me say that.

[@spikefishnetwork1118]

Theory has been licking up the slop and it's sad.

[@tskwerl]

It's incredible. You go online and people are just fangasming all over this episode like it's the second coming of George Lucas. Then, finally, I get to the sensible people doing reviews, like Disparu, who mentions every single problem I had with it. Sure, I liked seeing Hayden again. I love that he's still amazing with his saber. The problem was it made her look godawful. You're absolutely right. This show is nothing but member berry stew.

[@defeqel6537]

TBF Anakin / Vader was always supposed to be pretty much the best

[@hoos3014]

It's amazing, right? Only the reviews that you agree with are correct!

[@yugiblox3274]

I proudly fangasmed. Lol y’all will diss anything Disney Star Wars even when on the rare occasion it’s good.

[@vaporwave4880]

It is incredible. Star Wars fans seem to be liking Star Wars. They're supposed to hate it like you. What's the world coming to.

[@Slightly-Acceptable-Nerd]

​@@hoos3014 That reasoning can be mutual though ... .

[@BetaRayBill32]

This episode cemented for me that Ahsoka fans really are beyond parody. I've seen multiple examples in the past few days of people seriously writing things that I thought were the punchlines to jokes. At least they provide a little entertainment.

[@vaporwave4880]

Star Wars 'fans' mocking fellow Star Wars fans for liking Star Wars. THAT is beyond parody. This the point where you really should think about moving on. You have literally talked yourself out of something you once enjoyed.

[@matthewreyes5951]

A lot of Star Wars "fans" will happy eat shit if you stamped the Star Wars logo on it. Perhaps some of us don't want to be mindless consumers, though you seem to lack the intelligence to comprehend that. I'm not saddened by you, just rightfully disgusted.

[@theonetheycallsix2526]

I love how one scene suddenly undos , book of boba , the last Jedi , Obiwans show and so on

[@gavinburke2572]

For Star Wars sake i hope Ashoka revisits Anakin and confirms that it was real and that he was a force ghost trying to repent for his sins as a Jedi and Sith. And that once Ashoka has saved the day in this season he warns her of the real threat they face - insert some new foreign enemy in a distant galaxy - Anakin tells her this is his mission and that he has achieved what Palpatine promised, a way to save the ones he loves. He tells Ashoka she needs to lead against this foe and gets Mandalorians and Ezra and others to help which ===== leads the new republic to devote resources to helping which===== will lead to them being weakened when the first order begins to arise. This new enemy NEEDS to be different maybe they've teamed up with Thrawn but they need to not be obsessed with the force and power but maybe in just wiping people out. Its become so convoluted like wtf do the bad guys in Star Wars even want anymore just kill people who weren't ever going to bother them anyway, blow up a planet for fun. It just doesnt track anymore it needs to be about enslaving them it needs to be worse and more evil than just having power

[@jameschouinard5648]

It’s interesting how far apart people are on this show after reading through these comments. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed ahsoka’s arc in this show so far and clearly see Anakin as fulfilling his role as the chosen one with balance in the force and as a guide. To me he’s guiding ahsoka to live (literally) and live in life and as her part as the chosen one’s legacy (bring balance to reality and not just exist without emotion and depressed). I believe her coming out as happy and in white clothes symbolizes her growth into that role. Didn’t seem that ambiguous. But, after reading though, everyone seems so upset. There are definitely flaws throughout, but the story so far has been intriguing and has vision imo. I’m looking forward to the rest of the show

[@therealxanadu7090]

Don't bother friend. This audience and content creators do not like Star Wars. Disney could sell the IP back to George tomorrow and they would still hate and complain about anything he puts out. Thats just how they are. Explaining reason is useless, they don't care to listen. Save your time and move on.

[@RMD-uw5np]

I can’t wait for the space ring to come out of hyperspace and they land on Thrawn’s planet and there is a big chair with it’s back to the screen. The chair turns around and we get a long haired, bearded,huge gutted “fat beta Thored” Thrawn. Leave it to Disney Star Wars to pull something like that

[@taylorbolduc1763]

I mean this is literally from Dave Filoni, George's successor, and probably the second best star wars we've had since Andor which is decidedly a mature adult show. So i'll take the win otherwise at this point what does "acceptable" even look like

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

Dave Filoni made 3 season of Mando (which was shit), ruined Boba Fett and Luke (again), so no, he doesn't get a pass.

[@taylorbolduc1763]

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p i mean not exactly since Book of Boba and Mando S3 were mostly written by Favreau and directed by Rodriguez or a motley crew of diversity. Creative control where it's due.

[@BetaRayBill32]

Acceptable doesn't look like the pile of excrement that this show is.

[@taylorbolduc1763]

@@BetaRayBill32 Some people just want to hate on everything i guess. Imo this is the Star Wars Picard s3, they're giving rebels fans what they want

[@MichaelAChristian1]

"THE JEDI TURNED AGAINST ME! DON'T YOU TURN AGAINST ME! YOU'VE TURNED HER AGAINST ME!!!"

[@ashwhite8610]

The irony of these guys blaming the fans for liking stuff, when they are forever criticising the makers of shows for criticising fans reactions. hypocrites

[@alexdeghost2729]

Drinker is in the character corruption arc XD

[@zachanator2011]

Yeah I'm not gonna lie I usually agree with these guys but this is first time I think they really just forcing it. Nobody is saying ahsoka is the greatest thing ever but it is objectively better than anything we've gotten in recent years. First time I ever feel like these guys are hating to hate because it's their brand

[@zachanator2011]

Damn this comment makes me sound woke AF

[@ashwhite8610]

@@zachanator2011 I just want truth. Their reaction aint it.

[@jakemakes]

@@zachanator2011 That's their point tho. It really isn't better than anything we've gotten, its just covered with a healthy coating of nostalgia. Take away the familiar characters and the story we are left with is... bad.

[@user-rm7rt3qw9h]

Fans actually enjoying the show. Drinker: "No. Enough of that!"

[@jacquelineking5783]

Fans don't have to watch the Drinker to enjoy the show.....

[@fatty7780]

So we can all agree Ahsoka is kinda like Khao ! "Khao is soft white rice in lukewarm water. It has no taste. Befitted to small babies and very old people." Credit to The Hangover part 2 !

[@Hossak]

Holy moly, Smokey sleeps deep! What a good boy :)

[@silastipton9982]

I love how they nerfed Anakin so Ashoka can have a chance to win

[@alexdeghost2729]

1, he was teaching her a lesson 2, Adult Ahsoka has been canonically stronger than ROTS Anakin since Rebels

[@TheMaleRei]

@@alexdeghost2729 The Feloni Waifu strikes again.

[@katerinasamajova4048]

2. Lol no

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

It's all in her head, so doesn't matter.

[@th3ch0z3n]

​@@alexdeghost2729Yum yum yum I LOVE eating CRAYONS AND GLUE YUM YUM YUM

[@pyrolight7568]

The duels between Ashoka and Anakin... comedy gold. The best part is people were actually blown away by them.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

They were blown away by memberberries and fanservice. Remember: These are the same people that said Andor was boring and ‘not Star Wars’.

[@Biscuits645]

Hayden actually put time and effort into lightsaber combat. Dawson however looks like she spent about 5 minutes learning. Still they aren't going to fool me with nostalgia. Easily one of the worst shows I've ever seen.

[@tallerwarrior1256]

Hayden actually carried the fight scene and leveled it up. Also the girl who played young Ahsoka killed it.

[@999999SkyGuy]

​​@@Lobsterwithinternet They're allowed to be bored by gunfights (blaster) and Andor. TLJ fans aren't too happy either with BoBF and the Mando tag-team 🙊 as I heard

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@999999SkyGuy Allowed? Who said they couldn't like anything? And who’s talking about TLJ fans? I'm talking about people who are saying this ‘saved Star Wars’.

[@jacksparrow9227]

She for whatever reason feels guilty and thinks she caused him to become Vader or thought she could have prevented him from becoming Vader if she stayed in the Jedi Order instead of leaving after being framed for murder by her friend Baris Offee who was turned to the Dark Side and was Luminara Unduli's Padawan

[@pieshka4509]

It really feels like they're making the new republic intentionally inept to justify why Leia had to form 'the resistance' to fight the first order instead of it being the army of the republic

[@edc5068]

So many facepalm moments: - Huyang records everything couldn’t that data be sent immediately to Coruscant? - Jacen’s robot find’s Ashoka, but needs Jacen to voice call Hera, instead of directly sending the coordinates to Hera or the ships looking for her - Jacen heard the light sabres somehow translated to Ashoka being close to the shore. Later they find her and fly back from far away in a cool formation from the ocean’s horizon - Ashoka wakes up as if she had a nice nap and walks outside, we find a relaxed peaceful scene of Hera watching Jacen play with the robot, as if everyone has forgotten about Sabine. - When the space whales fly out to space, they majestically cross paths with the Republic fleet, as if the sky wasn’t vast enough Everything just seems oriented around aesthetically pleasing shots, with the plot sticky taped around that.