Drinker's Chasers - Indiana Jones 5 Savaged By Critics

[@JackMadness91]

It’s ironic that Pheobe’s character drones on about how Indie desecrates cultures, when that’s exactly what she’s doing with his character.

[@chasehedges6775]

👍👍👍👍

[@thiscorrosion900]

How does he desecrate cultures?

[@adamweishaupt2846]

@@thiscorrosion900 He's a white man so he desecrates their cultures by merely existing.

[@elijahtiemens5532]

How is that ironic? Desecration is the point. They believe that Indiana Jones SHOULD be desecrated. They believe his identity is illegitimate and founded in evil oppression of identities they view as legitimate.

[@scottmcmahon86]

How do you make that out, idiot, it was James Mangold who wrote the script and directed the film... You know, a white bloke... He also wrote and directed Logan, Le Mans 66 and Walk The Line.. I bet you loved those, eh...?

[@TheWarmachine375]

Phoebe Waller-Bridge: "NOTICE ME!" Everyone: "Who are you again?"

[@chasehedges6775]

Thanos: “I don’t even know who you are.”

[@zacharymcmillan2788]

Nevah hoide o' ya pal,sorry.

[@kathleenhensley5951]

I had never honestly heard of her... now, I regret ever hearing of her. She came off as smug and annoying on the trailer.

[@Raycheetah]

PeWB: Feminist usurper of vintage culture. ='[.]'=

[@liquidemotionzz3232]

Roman Reigns : "Aknowledge me" Me: ZzzzzZzzzzZz

[@bbspresents3856]

This is a movie no one wanted made for a demographic that has never cared. No real person has ever said “I can’t watch Indiana Jones because I’m not represented in its lore”. Everyone loses, especially Lucas Film.

[@crazyralph6386]

Which really begs the question, did KK push this through as her parting “FU” gift to Lucasfilm fans who absolutely detests her? She really does come across as spiteful and vindictive enough to do it?

[@mobiusraptor7]

Exactly. I'm not white but that didn't stop me from relating to white characters. Heck, I even relate to some female characters despite being male. To say you can't relate to someone cause they don't look like you is the most discriminatory phrase ever.

[@Snowqueenelsaofficial992]

@@mobiusraptor7 same here I'm not white but i still related to Elsa from Frozen and loved everything about her including the famous let it go song

[@randymoses3972]

​@@mobiusraptor7 I'm white, and I think Benjamin Sisko is the best Star Trek Captain. Prince is my favorite musical artist.

[@donny2967]

I think it's a whole money laundering scheme. No way such shit movies can be made and draw $1B in revenue. It's much more complicated than you think.

[@michaelhill6451]

"Disney ruined a franchise by turning a beloved male protagonist into a withered weak old man, replacing him with a younger female protagonist who is superior to him in every way?...That's surprising!" - No One Ever

[@chasehedges6775]

It’s the terrible trend of dishonoring the past to destroy the future

[@mrgreenboy644]

I wouldn't mind the male character -> female successor thing if it was actually well done. Make sure there's notable respect and chemistry between the two. Show that they both have their strengths, the youthful energy being juxtaposed with elderly wisdom. Even though she has her own new spin on things as a new character instead of a replacement, make sure she still highly values her older mentor. The problem isn't that the idea is bad, it's that the execution is the worst it can possibly be.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@mrgreenboy644👍👍👍👍

[@chasehedges6775]

@@mrgreenboy644 Exactly, man. If it was well-done, I’d have no problem with it.

[@eyespy3001]

I don’t think Disney turned Harrison Ford into an old man. Time did.

[@katzuma7641]

“The bathroom break I took whilst the movie was running was more exhilarating”

[@doberski6855]

Movie runs for 2 hours and 34 minutes. You may want to see a doctor if you were stuck in the bathroom that long! Unless you had a hip flask or a partner in the stall, or both!🤣

[@katzuma7641]

@@doberski6855 I never said that the bathroom break was the length of the movie lol It was only about half of the movie

[@Vario69]

Fapfapfapfap

[@GaudiaCertaminisGaming]

You should have done it in front of the screen. You’d probably have got a standing ovation.

[@Ozzystrayroo]

The movie-going version of buying milk and a pack of cigarettes

[@dw5523]

How hard would it have been to bring in Harrison Ford and Karen Allen, have the classic classroom scene followed by Indy coming home to a loving wife and a quaint home. He sits down at his desk with a scotch and picks up a little bit of memorabilia from his extensive travels and it fades to a flashback of a much younger man obtaining or interacting with said memorabilia? Boom, instant hit and well done honoring the source material, character, and original actor while managing to pass the baton to a new actor to take up the mantle. And I'm just an idiot who comments on KZbin.

[@kathleenhensley5951]

Oh, yes. I would have watched that.

[@robertodell9193]

You are now officially a better writer than anyone at Disney/Lucasfilm. Congratulations! BTW, you don't mind if I steal that idea, do you?

[@HerculesBallsInc]

The answer is obvious. They COULD very easily have left Indiana as a respected achetype. But they didn't WANT to. What they wanted to do was disrespect and demean him in every way. They had his students ignore him, they had his wife divorce him, and they had an upstart insult and outdo him every couple seconds. They wanted people to think that Indiana Jones was always a loser, thief, and liar, unlike a modern-day GIRLBOSS.

[@jsb1944]

The problem with that is it would reinforce masculinity, family values, married heterosexual relationships and respect the audience and history of the character/franchise lore. None of these things spread "teh mehssegggge"

[@randomdude189]

It would’ve been easier for Harrison Ford to say no.

[@otherbarry19]

Part of the appeal was watching the line draw across the map as Indy caught trains and steamers to reach remote and exotic places in a world that was much bigger back then.

[@chasehedges6775]

Yeah, that was always the best part of OG Indiana Jones movies

[@poocrayon4588]

They also forget sexy broads help sell these movies. I mean show a poster featuring Marion or Willie and it instantly gets boys attention. Waller-Bridge? No. And that's totally ignoring everything else wrong with her.

[@Natgunner]

Was that fast travel Barry? It most certainly was other Barry.

[@ST-vw6yj]

I saw the detailed plot spoilers today and they really managed to meet every bad expectation we had, thanks Disney.

[@Ichika1UP]

What they manged to ruin?

[@kaizokujimbei143]

@@Ichika1UP Were you born 14 minutes ago?

[@teamistress197]

I won't bother to see it when it releases in the UK. I don't want to see a much loved franchise being desecrated like this. Indy deserved better than this.

[@susanalderson8267]

@@Ichika1UP EVERYTHING they touch turns to shiite.

[@Ozzystrayroo]

Hollywood these days....when audience bad expectations became standards.

[@incurableromantic4006]

The moment they brought in Waller-Bridge - you kinda knew how it was going to go. She'd be the main star, she'd be obnoxious, arrogant and entitled. She'd endlessly upstage and berate him: while he'd bumble around looking foolish and helpless, and needing her to rescue him again and again.

[@deathsdoor07]

Remember that clip from the trailer where they're on the plane and she tells him she's there to save him?

[@Ozzystrayroo]

Where in the feminist landfill of the world did they dig her up?

[@SirBlackReeds]

She's like the star of Forspoken.

[@Aralaas]

@@SirBlackReeds "I ruin franchises. Yeah, ok, that's something I do now."

[@spectralnighttravel]

That's Lucasfilm. Look at Luke Skywalker, the Mandalorian, and now Indiana Jones.

[@glados4765]

I really really want to know who is protecting Kathleen Kennedy. What blackmail does she have in a safety deposit box on Disney execs?

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

Epstein's client list? A semen stained dress.. of a 8 year old? Both?

[@scottf5791]

All the big wigs in Hollywood

[@DakaloMooi_05]

Her vagina is protecting her

[@cedrebleu7181]

You may consider she is doing exactly what she was paid for....

[@xTheGregx]

Probably stuff with children

[@tehy123]

Mild conspiracy: usually these films get press attention and backlash (for sucking) and then the studio paints it as all sexism / racism, leading the mainstream press to suck off the movie. However, by showing it early before this process occurred, they allowed the press to write what they actually thought, which resulted in them getting the reviews they actually deserved.

[@Heike--]

The process you describe is called "fan baiting" and it is a newly developed great way to wave off bad reviews for deliberately sucky work.

[@M167A1]

​@@Heike-- spot on

[@boggeddown778]

That's not a conspiracy.

[@Gazmus]

They invented reporter baiting! All those god damned dirty sexist, ageist maybe racist reporters...of course they couldn't enjoy such a woke film.

[@SouthernCali-f1n]

Where's the conspiracy? You didn't pose anything outlandish

[@carlrood4457]

The whole point of Indiana Jones is he's an homage to the adventure serials of the 30's and 40's. That's the time period the character belongs in. It's also why the Brendan Frasier Mummy movie worked. It was going for the same sort of feel and the era and setting is important to that.

[@davidgantenbein9362]

Brendan Fraser‘s first Mummy movie was imo the closest we got to an Indiana Jones movie after Last Crusade. Definitely on point with the whole pulp adventure feeling. Would love to have more early 20th century adventure movies.

[@blkjedi]

Those movies are so much fun and enjoying to watch. Hollywoods needs another flick like the original Indiana Jones trilogy and Frasiers movies. Basically ongoing action, etc with a good enough story to keep folks captivated,

[@Erasureeraser]

It's hilarious how Disney has so much confident with this movie to the point that they're premiering it early at the Cannes Film Festival only to have the movie being destroyed by the critics a month before it's actual release😂😂😂

[@StimParavane]

I know. Such arrogance.

[@alonsomunoz4096]

@@StimParavane Sheer something something...?

[@ErikDeMann]

@@StimParavane Such arrogance, such disconnect from the reality of their customer base.

[@salomaonplanetsaturn]

Another proof that top creative managers at Lucasfilm are out of touch. They don't have a clue what audience want to see.

[@ErikDeMann]

@@salomaonplanetsaturn They are the entertainment version of Bud Light's management, since both worship at the altar of 'progressive' woke-ism and gender ideology.

[@darksidemachining]

Recalling the Drinker’s thoughts of Sean Connery in The Last Crusade where the story could have been about Indiana trying to keep up with his hard core worldly father-a James Bond type. Though always looking at his son as still the small boy finally realizing he is a man and can hold his own. They should have told that story with Indiana trying to teach a youngster how to survive and keep an open mind. And the youngster finally realizing the old man still has what it takes to get the job done and deserves the respect for decades of adventure and saving the world from fascism.

[@robertodell9193]

You are now officially a better writer than anyone at Disney/Lucasfilm. Congratulations!

[@erroneous6947]

You put more effort into this than the writers did.

[@hebanker3372]

Isn't that more or less the story of Indy and his son in the fourth movie?

[@peteryoung5147]

Nah, that would assume the younger person actually has something to learn

[@leestevenson1236]

👏👏👏

[@TheWarmachine375]

Indiana Jones show ended at The Last Crusader. Change my mind.

[@chasehedges6775]

It ended there for me, too.

[@mitchconner4057]

The Last Crusader? Must have missed that one

[@chasehedges6775]

Indy, his dad, Sallah, and Brody riding off into the sunset will always be the perfect ending.

[@chasehedges6775]

Star Wars ended after ROTJ in 1983 and Revenge Of The Sith in 2005. The Lucas era was the best Star Wars Era

[@Neon002121]

@@chasehedges6775Amen brother.

[@tomcustis9272]

Kathleen’s female characters always have an arc. They have to realise they were perfect the whole time.

[@ErikDayne]

Which isn’t empowering to women, that’s pandering. It’s actually insulting because they’re basically saying these women don’t have any specific qualities that we can realistically appreciate, they’re just perfect, borderline supernatural beings that we should worship.

[@Vaquix000]

@@ErikDayne Reminds me of how they made an awesome female protagonist in disney's' mulan, then made a pathetic version of her in the useless remake. One had to learn how to fight and tried her best, just like a male protagonist, with goofy funny moments - the remake version is born perfect so doesn't need to learn anything, with no funny moments because women aren't allowed to be funny or have goofy moments apparently, if it's a goofy moment it's the guy doing something stupid and the "cool awesome" woman making fun of them for it.

[@mkm7251]

Kennedy’s women have character arcs so vast and complex that if you stepped back and looked at them, they all would essentially look like this > .

[@TheWarmachine375]

Kathleen Kennedy must have the Ultimate Job Security to not get fired from Disney even after all her Self Insert movies bombed harder than the USA did to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[@213thAIB]

Probably has dirt on people. She knows where the bodies are buried, figuratively, and literally.

[@bigal3055]

She's got some pics of a Disney exec railing a young Asian boy saved on her phone. It's the only reasonable explanation.

[@poocrayon4588]

@@213thAIB Probably was doing all kinds of "favours" for Lucas and Speilberg back in the day and they put in a good word

[@alwaysangry2232]

@@213thAIB still why doenst she have a accident like epstein did?

[@LadyVictoria.]

@@alwaysangry2232 Dead man's switch...

[@kyleboddy5711]

Johnny English reborn was able to pull off the aging hero genre very well. They show the youthful henchman able to jump around and tackle with ease while Johnny rides an elevator to the ground floor. He has a training montage to let the audience know he's doing still strong.

[@MirrorMonolith]

The Johnny English lipstick scene remains one of the greatest moments in cinema

[@frankgesuele6298]

Also had Gillian Anderson as a brunette 😀

[@DarthSideous63]

The reason that first three Indiana Jones movies were great is that George Lucas and Steven Spielberg respected the time period of the 1930's. George was a big movie serial fan which inspired Star Wars and Indiana Jones.

[@tollan23]

When is Disney going to realise that they have to can Kennedy? Surely they're long past that point by now?

[@nahtesalinas1917]

She's there for life. Evil never dies.

[@AshCosgrove]

I don't think it would matter. They'd find someone equally insufferable to replace her. At this point, I've stopped caring and am hoping they keep her. It's far more entertaining to watch her burn it all down while she's saying that everything's fine.

[@tollan23]

@@AshCosgrove She'll retire, laughing on her pile of cash while Disney's ashes smoulder.

[@michaelkrull3331]

She has the pee tape.

[@TheTamilmaghan]

At this point..I want both Killer Kennedy & Dismay go down together in flames

[@EarlMcManus2005]

Indiana Jones ended with The Last Crusade.

[@rhyslightning3037]

You’d think with the title “the LAST crusade” people would be able to figure that out but sadly if it means making money they will milk that cow till its dryer than the Sahara desert

[@obi-wanshinobi2353]

@@rhyslightning3037 the last crusade had to do with the knight not Indy

[@rhyslightning3037]

@@obi-wanshinobi2353 yh but dont ya think that sounds like the end of a story arc?

[@EyeInTheSky982]

I completely agree with Mauler, when he said ppl develop a new appreciation for the previous stuff. When STD came out, I developed a new appreciation for Star Trek 5; and when the Disney Star Wars movies were released, I developed a new love for the Prequel trilogy.

[@chasehedges6775]

I love Revenge Of The Sith more and more compared to the ST and other Disney garbage. It’s still the best of the prequels and the OT is still fantastic

[@chasehedges6775]

Ppl develop a new appreciation for the previous stuff NAILED IT. Absolutely spot on

[@chasehedges6775]

Mando S3 makes wish it ended after S2

[@EyeInTheSky982]

@@chasehedges6775 I always liked Revenge Of The Sith; I thought it was the best one of the Prequels. That being said, when the Disney ST trilogy came out; and I may be pushing the envelope a bit, I found the Prequels to be on-par with the OT. 🤔🤔

[@chasehedges6775]

@@EyeInTheSky982 👍👍

[@steprockmedia]

Marion didn't have to SAY she's beautiful and daring. We could tell.

[@anayasalvador9976]

With Marion they didn’t have to make Indy a bumbling idiot to make Marion a strong female character

[@colincopland3665]

@EL JAY It’s psychological projection of the new batch of Hollywood film writers who are not bringing eclectic experiences other than writing into their stories. Just consider how the old school writers got into screenwriting after having careers in other fields- think of the phrase “tinker, tailor, soldier, spy”- and you might get a notion of the variety of experiences they were drawing from.

[@MVPMVE]

​@@colincopland3665 Nah, it's just a lack of imagination. Some of the best stories also come from average people living typical experiences but have a rich inner world and a talent for storytelling. It's why there are so many terrible remakes and sequels: there's nobody imaginative enough to make something original or even just creative enough to reimagine an established property beyond self-inserts and virtue signaling.

[@Vaquix000]

@eljay5009 Really, the women can't be very strong if they have to make the men bumbling idiots in comparison to make them look strong. If the men were strong too and they could hold their own with them, they would look much stronger. That adds badass points. What also adds badass points: Not just being born super badass and never failing ever, but instead becoming a badass through experiences. Also not being a humorless angry woman with an abrasive personality - if someone has to show they're a "badass" by being angry and rude all the time, they're not. It comes off as tryhard and childish.

[@Vaquix000]

@@colincopland3665 You don't need to have had experience in other fields to create a story... that's not how creativity works. Like MVPMVE said it's a lack of imagination. Disney doesn't want to take risks on any imaginative new work, they want to mess around with old franchises because they know they will make money even if they are garbage. And they do. People go see the new star wars movies. They talk about how much they hate them but they went to see it, and the sequels... they're also to blame. People need to stop the hate watching if they really want to stop so much garbage from getting made.

[@johnnhoj6749]

At this stage they could reboot Howard the Duck and make the original seem like a beloved cinematic classic.

[@Vaquix000]

Sadly that's actually true

[@ramblingRJ]

They should have made a film version of the "Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" TV show. Have Ford as old Indy narrating an adventure from his teens.

[@Vaquix000]

I prefer an adult, middle aged or old indy to a teen indy. teenage boys are kind of annoying, no offense to any teenage boys reading this but they probably know what I mean

[@johnboy2349]

​@@Vaquix000 the tv showbwas awesome

[@RJManette]

This sounds amazing and would have been a way to still work Harrison Ford in without having him look like he's past his prime. It makes sense old Indy would sit and reminisce on his youth.

[@Pyratemime]

If the reports that Iger told Kennedy the movie has to make $900M to ptevent her humiliation on the way out the door this could be a deliberate move on his part to ensure he gets to claim her scalp as she leaves.

[@Will_Parker]

No way would Iger sabotage one of the only movies he could rely on this year just to give him more of an excuse to fire someone he could easily replace whenever he wants.

[@Pyratemime]

@@Will_Parker if thr last decade has shown us anything at Lucasfilm it is that KK cannot just easily be replaced at the whim of anyone. Iger needs a very public very undeniable failure to not just move her on but to publicly humiliate her on the way out.

[@M167A1]

​@@Will_Parker in a sane world you would be correct. These days reality continues to surprise and disappoint.

[@John_Notmylastname]

To be fair she claimed her own scalp long ago.

[@denkerbosu3551]

​@@Pyratemime there's no way in hell Iger wants to humiliate a whaman. Dude wants to get into politics, absolutely as a Dem.

[@MDJ7713]

My favorite time of the week, when Drinker tricks me into watching a full stream by cutting it up in 3 smaller videos.

[@tezcm2846]

it suits my attention span better 😂😂😂

[@Ozzystrayroo]

Consider it as trailers lol

[@Natgunner]

I strongly think Disney is using Lucas Film as a tax write off at this point.

[@stevenesbitt3528]

Corporate suicide speed run

[@dtuk22]

Genuinely...this is tragic for what is an iconic cinematic character.

[@Knight_Kin]

Indy was raped long ago, now his corpse has been risen and deflied until it's just a pile of dust.

[@YuriBez2023]

aka. Diana Jones and the Tampon of Time.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

My favorite scene was when Indiana put on the fedora, and reflected "this hat is perfect" to which fleabag responded "it will be once it fits a woman" and then she took the hat put it on and said "now it's perfect". Indy tried to protest so she aimed a machine gun at him, pointed to her eyes and said "look at me, look at me, I'm Indiana now" and then with the hat and the machine gun went to kill all the nazis, embarrassing the all male inglorious basterds as well...

[@julianlord5366]

If I'd insisted, I could maybe have seen it last week -- but I just did not even vaguely want to. In an obviously studio-mandated interview point in the local French Riviera Press, Ford claimed that he only wanted to make this fifth one under the "condition" that he had a female "equal". Which is obvious bollox. I did attend one extremely early fan screener for a movie that the studio hated -- the actual, original Donner cut of Superman II about 9 months before they released the studio-edited version. I loved it -- it's the best version of that film I've ever seen, (despite no Marlon Brando) and I think it's lost forever. As to Indiana Jones -- the very premature death of River Phoenix, the only other actor than Ford to have nailed the character, seriously harmed that franchise.

[@rfichokeofdestiny]

I’m not so sure Harrison Ford didn’t stipulate that. He has enough money that he didn’t need to do this movie at all. Maybe he thinks he’s leaving a legacy of being on board with the latest left-wing cause before he dies.

[@rmhartman]

The entire point of both Star Wars and Indy was a revival of the old serials with clearly drawn good and bad guys. Now they are making them into what they were rebelling against: gray lines.

[@WakenerOne]

The qualities of Indiana Jones that they are portraying as negative (being out of sync with the time in which the story takes place) are precisely the qualities which made the character popular with audiences in the real world when he was introduced. And the producers don't understand that.

[@fanthonyfictions]

What bothers me about movies is that if the attitude was done by a cafe, they'd go out of business. "This cake isn't what you asked for, and if you don't like it, you're the problem."

[@SheldonAdama17]

Sounds like Indiana Jones traded his whip for the Doctor Who teddy bear.

[@TRWilley]

I was a huge IJ fan 15+ years ago - I even have a film accurate Raider's jacket and Fedora - but 4 was such a disappointment that I checked out at that point. I won't even go to the theater for this.

[@williamdistefano5698]

Kathy is completely in love with herself and probably surrounded by yes-people so I think she REALLY felt this was going to do well. 😂

[@meddlingmage23]

that's pretty much the experience of any woman

[@ErikDayne]

There’s a lot of people who are misguided, what makes this unique is how she keeps getting more chances to fail

[@williamdistefano5698]

@@ErikDayne lots of people think she knows where the bodies are buried, and maybe she does... but I think it's more who she's allied with on the board as that'd be more likely.

[@jaydarklighter1989]

This is the Die Hard 5 of this franchise - people all hated on Die Hard 4 (because of the pg-13 rating in that case), but once Die Hard 5 came along - the yippy ki yay mother russia one - people were like "oh maybe Live Free or Die Hard isn't that bad after all - it ain't the first 3 - but it's not as shit as we first thought"

[@chasehedges6775]

How I feel about the Hobbit movies after Rings Of Power

[@bigal3055]

There's a Die Hard 5??! I guess I must have checked out after the 4th one.

[@mala6238]

​@@bigal3055 never watch that one. It is beyond awful...

[@Hauerization]

Same thing ith the star wars prequels - suddenly people realised they actually was made with some thought and effort. You didnt have to like it - not all of it - but there were a sense of personality and meaning that the sequels utterly lacked.

[@sharkinator7819]

@@bigal3055 it’s a complete mess. Honestly, I never could figure out what was going on as I was watching it, it’s a very confusing film

[@trent797]

I just looked up the runtime for Raiders of the Lost Ark. It is 115 minutes. That is a PERFECT length for this type of film.

[@Heike--]

I miss 80s films. 88 minutes in and out, including the credits. If a movie was longer, that meant it was excellent. I blame Pulp Fiction. 2 1/2 hours and it told the story out of order, and it was a wild success. Suddenly I can't watch a movie in fewer than three hours and not one of them is the same as Pulp Fiction.

[@shadow7988]

Heck, movies, I miss when TV SHOWS weren't all hour long snooze fests packed with drama filler of dudes arguing with their wives to stall the plot.

[@chaospacemarine8330]

​@Heike-- back then writers used to know how to squeeze information in those minutes

[@Scott.Sandifer]

Bit of a tangent, but bear with me... Watching interviews, outtakes and bloopers from _Seinfeld,_ it's interesting how the cast is in awe of the older actors, such as the late great Jerry Stiller (George's father). These are young, hilarious and exceedingly talented people who regard their seasoned, experienced counterparts with the utmost admiration and respect. They see them as wise mentors from whom they have much to learn, even as the _Seinfeld_ cast was clearly at the top of their game. Part of this postmodernist tyranny we see today is the rejection of *EVERYTHING* from the past. *Nothing* can be learned from your elders. Experience is irrelevant because everything that happened before yesterday is evil. Consequently any older generation must be roundly mocked, their wisdom belittled, and their avocations destroyed. (This of course includes any franchise they may have enjoyed.) Indiana Jones simply cannot be depicted in this culture. Aside from the logistical silliness of a 70+ year old man adventuring, even thematically it would never have worked. The movie can't hate its own lead. It simply should not have been made. As far as I'm concerned, it wasn't. I am quite content in my belief that these films comprise one of the best *TRILOGIES* of all time.

[@trob1731]

So current and upcoming generations will automatically disregard anything they are told by their elders. That's why we have "Okay, Boomer." being thrown out there whenever grandpa/grandma try to tell their grandkids what's what.

[@Scott.Sandifer]

@@trob1731 There's always been a little bit of pushback against previous generations. But in the 2020's it's become some sort of psychotic renunciation. It's the difference between "Crazy ole grandpa says some weird stuff" and "We refuse to acknowledge our racist, bigoted, flag-waving grandparents." It's this new presumption of evil that's so pervasive now and so deeply disturbing.

[@Decayrate-of-Ravn-Rike]

​@@trob1731Yes. The next generation should learn from the mistakes that our elders did and be better (and be better off),than our elders. Which sadly isn't how things are going. Then young doesn't want to listen, while the old doesn't want to admit mistakes. From afar the hook-nosed individuals smirk at both of them, knowing that they behave this way because of societal foundation myths loaded with poison, myths and poison they created and fermented. Then they laugh at me, for even trying to detangle this setup. I should've just said "ok boomer". Here we are, theres enough keywords in this post so both the young and old can learn and also admit mistakes. we've all made them...

[@StefanoBorini]

I have one idea in mind. Kathleen Kennedy wants to destroy everything Lucas has made, and she knows she can do it. It's a personal feud.

[@davidsummer8631]

Doesn't Disney have to answer to shareholders many of which might not be happy with Disney getting involved with identity politics

[@rfichokeofdestiny]

Shareholders are the old way of doing business. Now it’s “stakeholders.” Which sounds like a better way of approaching things (let’s consider what customers actually want, not just chase analyst predictions). But in ESG world, the stakeholders are angry feminists and Marxists and government bureaucrats.

[@camreese]

If you look at phoebe waller bridge and daisy ridley they look exactly like kathleen kennedy when she was younger. Shes inserting herself into these movies and its plain to see

[@AliasSchmalias]

Exactly! When she watches the movies she imagines herself defeating Darth Sidious, saving Kylo Ren and humiliating Indiana Jones. She is using the movie charakters to compensate her inner insecurities.

[@DubleDubs]

I essentially said the same thing that Chris did on a Nerdrodic video. Maybe Iger is opening the door as wide as he can for KK to fail because she just makes his job harder so we'll be treated to a corporate passive aggressive back and forth until one of them leaves.

[@garrynewby1442]

Kk's contract with Disney must be like the one Arial signed in the little Mermaid. "Legal, binding and completely unbreakable" That must be the only reason she hasn't been fired

[@jimminystew]

This seems deliberate on Iger's part to me to throw KK under the bus. No way they thought they were going to get good reviews for this mess.

[@erroneous6947]

I tend to agree with that assessment.

[@nathansolo2605]

I think that spending several hundred million on a movie to get rid of Kathleen Kennedy seems awfully expensive and a waste of resources.

[@AnthonyRizzuti]

She isn’t going anywhere, if the whole Star Wars controversies didn’t warrant her being shit-canned, it’s pretty safe to assume she’s pretty much untouchable

[@bob1986]

@@AnthonyRizzuti Maybe not. Star Wars has always been a "geek" franchise at heart while EVERYONE loves Indiana Jones so her messing that up might have gone too far. Iger's definitely at the end of his rope with her, that's for sure as he pulled the plug on the Star Wars Hotel in Florida without telling her and without her input and approval, something that had her screaming in a rage according to a fly on the wall there.

[@robirvine6970]

Fucken bullshit. Indy isn't a drop in the ocean of cash and popularity that SW is. There's about zero comparison.

[@yellowfellow7246]

Indiana Jones is a trilogy. Always was, still is, and always will be.

[@tarrylove6519]

❤

[@cappadocius9379]

The chance of me watching this film was already really thin after Crystal Skull. I will just stick with the first 3. I just ordered the first season of Young Indiana Jones dvds. Hoping they are at least fun.

[@chrispekel5709]

They range from OK to pretty good. Ancient Indy is funny, he's like 100 and doesn't act at all like Ford now haha

[@charlesjmouse]

Indiana Jones and the Diarrhoea of Dysentery: There are three Indy films and Lucasfilm stopped existing the moment the evil mouse bought it. Speaking as a Brit I apologise for Phoebe Waller-Bridge. While she was a darling of UK media I don't know a single person here who doesn't roll their eyes and sigh if her name is mentioned... that was the case - she's pretty well forgotten here but for occasional embarrassing talk show appearances.

[@Hauerization]

It might be a nitpick, but for me, the title itself told me pretty much what I had to know. If you seriously think thats an ok title, then god bless ya James Mangold.

[@danjonmills]

You mean 'The dial of destiny' doesn't get your blood pumping? Utter utter wank, title.

[@gfwinn]

Since Lucasfilm has officially killed all of their franchises I can’t wait for the announcement of a live action adaptation of Monkey Island because video game moves are totally a thing now. 🙄

[@Ozzystrayroo]

No. No. No. If that happens i will accept nothing is sacred anymore.

[@Otokichi786]

Imagine that, raiding the LucasArts game vaults for ideas! Is "The Dig" ready for a reboot on screen?

[@patrioticcat5768]

I heard the best scene is when Harrison Ford puts on his hat and says "its Jones'n time" and punches bad nazi man who is bad.

[@russ254]

punches person with normal scientific view of human biology - worse than notsees

[@matane2465]

The saddest thing about his age is that Ford is 80 years old, but in the year 1969, Indy should only be 70 since he was born in 1899. So, the character appears more aged than he should.

[@stevenbaker153]

Imagine if Indy 5 or the Last Jedi was treated more like Clint Eastwoods Unforgiven. An old gunslinger pulled into one last fight with an old foe. That is something I'd be down for

[@greenwendal5056]

Movies are just propaganda now. Same as TV shows. I never watch modern films anymore, they all suck.

[@stevenbaker153]

@@greenwendal5056 There are still some good stuff being made out there, You just have to look in other parts, not just mainstream Hollywood. For example Andor (the exception that proves the rule), Hell or High Water and Bullet Train are just a couple that really impressed me

[@VandalJace]

I work at a movie theater with 22 screens and can confirm the interest in advance tickets is very low. 32 tickets sold for our 7pm IMAX on the Thursday opening night. 3/4 of the auditorium is unsold.

[@markus1701]

Someone said it was a strategic move by Eiger against KK...

[@ItsaKindOfMagic86]

she will be a scapegoat but dont think that with her removed that the woke will stop this woke bs is widespread throughout the institutions and companies

[@Semper_Iratus]

kathleen kennedy should have just stuck with bringing coffee to the real creative people.

[@Tfaonc]

The idea of the 2010s being "back then" makes me feel old

[@chasehedges6775]

I feel old as well.

[@chasehedges6775]

The 2010s was a pretty good decade.

[@captainunderpants200]

Indiana Jones' Final Movie Idea: Indy is an elderly retired professor, recounting his memoirs to a scribe/ghostwriter - or maybe to a psychiatrist. This is the whole movie. Two men talking. Mostly Indy. Indy starts out all jovial recalling his younger days when it was all swashbuckling and getting the girl, but gradually starts talking about the darker things he's seen and done, about the people he's killed, about dealing with the trauma etc etc. And to be really gutsy, don't use flashbacks. It'd be a great character piece, and a chance to give the character the gravitas a man of Harrison Ford's stature deserves.

[@323johnnybravo]

How broke is Disney right now ?? They usually pay off IGN lol. 😂

[@docsavage8640]

Just wait for the Casablanca sequel where Rick's is an internet cafe in Seattle's thug-occupied CHAZ and the bad guys are the police and fire departments trying to rein in violence and arson.

[@zacharyhoffman9972]

I am a Gen-Xer so all of these movie franchises (Star Wars, Star Trek, Indiana Jones, Terminator, Aliens, etc.) are great memories of my youth. I imagine I speak for a lot of people my age when I say how utterly sad, frustrating and anger inducing it is to see one famous franchise after another get destroyed by the mega-corporations and talentless woke "creatives". These movie franchises along with epic literary works from Tolkien and others are golden IP. All any writer or director has to do is simply not fuck up the great things that have already been done. Just roll with the timeless narratives and heroic characters. Take the Peter Jackson approach and you could create enduring movie legacies. Nope, can't do that. These people whose collective talent and creativity couldn't power a light bulb intentionally take great stories and characters and not only bungle them, but actively destroy them. They emasculate the male characters, destroy the feminine side of the female characters, rob the humor from all the characters and dollop on loads of often poor CGI as a replacement for any form of a coherent or enjoyable story. Occasionally a movie like Dune comes along to give you hope but that seems rarer and rarer. RIP Indiana Jones, you deserved better than this.

[@stevenesbitt3528]

Just don’t watch, works wonders

[@ItsaKindOfMagic86]

@@stevenesbitt3528 that is self serving action. It doesnt prevent, fix nor remove the stain and taint that what they are doing to cinema and culture

[@ItsaKindOfMagic86]

@@stevenesbitt3528 also "walking away and not watching" is cowardly, it is what enabled this BS in the first place because people didnt put their foot down and simple say "No, that is a bad idea, come up with something else otherwise you're fired"

[@chrisbutler1668]

I think of all the past winners of the Palme D'Or, as I imagine elderly Indy attempting to steal the trophy buried deep inside an ancient temple full of deadly booby traps, and breaking his hip as a giant boulder rolls over him.

[@SkeletalCommissar]

Indiana Jones and the dial of dissapointment

[@chasehedges6775]

Harrison Ford and The Last Paycheck, tbh

[@Om_64.]

The dial of caca

[@Drawflyswim]

I loved Harrison Ford as an 80’s kid but then I noticed in interviews that he was always a disgruntled movie star annoyed by his own success. I thought maybe he was a real artist and would start pushing himself to make movies that told poignant stories from an interesting perspective but he just made decently watchable movies. And now to end it like this? I hope it was worth the paycheck.

[@TheDreamingJune]

Even though I like that Harrison doesn't care much about celebrity lifestyle, I do wish his filmography in the last 10 years was more interesting. Aside from "Blade Runner 2049" he hasn't really done anything else worth praising. Which is a shame since when he's given really good material he can be a great actor.

[@theeternallyvigilant5855]

A more apt title would be "Indiana Jones & the Dire of Disney."

[@dmartig1]

If I was a Disney shareholder I wouldn't be thrilled with the idea of the CEO intentionally tanking a movie and potentially losing hundreds of millions of dollars so he can fire a studio head that should have been fired 5 years earlier.

[@johnnycastellanetta7183]

I've been waiting until my kids are old enough to show them Indiana Jones. You know, the ONLY THREE Indiana Jones movies.

[@shaunpenne1840]

Indiana Jones was my childhood idol, like any kid growing up in the 80's! The Last Crusade was the final Indy film as far as I'm concerned! I saw Raiders in the cinema when I was 5, Temple of Doom when I was 8 and Last Crusade at 13! I grew up with Indy. The final film at the end of the 80's, perhaps one of the greatest decades to be a kid! This travesty should never have happened. Indy should've been left as a legend of cinematic history. The Last Crusade immortalised Indy, it should have been left that way!!

[@curtisldb78]

Not the last crusade..that movie sucked had to watch it like 6 times just to say it's ok...but not the best one to end Indiana Jones on come on really

[@shaunpenne1840]

@Curtis Smith I didn't like The Last Crusade that much myself!! It didn't feel as epic, it lacked the punchiness of the first two, but it was decent enough to end with! But Crystal Skull and the soon-to-be-released "Indiana Jones and the Insult to a Legend!" Are two films I'll not be adding to my collection! I'd sooner watch Howard the Duck than the new Indy film!!🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@AA-lx6yt]

the real reason harrison ford was tearing up at the movies was cause of how shit this movie is

[@doopdoopdopdop7424]

Indiana Jones and the Dime-a-Dozen replacement.

[@BlueKey962]

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”

[@jacotacomorocco]

There are only 3 indiana jones movies

[@Partoftheratpack]

Yep

[@meddlingmage23]

Damn, from just that one line describing the movie 6:15. Now I understand why there was like no commercials. Jesus.

[@DocNo27]

Forget the Dial of Disaster - Fathom Events is re-releasing Indiana Jones: The Temple Of Doom the first week of June - go see that in a Theater instead. Would be hilarious if we could get it with more traffic than the Dial of Disaster.

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

Remember when temple of doom was considered the shit one? How times change.

[@alonsomunoz4096]

Looks like Indy 4 is more heartless than Mola Ram's stag night.

[@garym6315]

I cane across a thing online that was talking about Indy not having a gun holster in this one. I didn't really look in to it so i don't know how true or hoe intentional that is on the part of the writers, but yeah it does reflect the a change in the eras from the 1930s to the 1960s. Remember when Indy casually murdered the swrodsman who was showing off his sword swiging skills? No way would the Indy from this movie so casually kill random bad guys. At most you'll see a baddie fall from the top of a moving train or from the back if an open aeroplane, but there's bo way he will kill anyone.

[@wcw2793]

Indiana Jones ended with him riding off into the sunset with his father, Sallah, and Brody. You cannot, will not change my mind about this. It’s called The *LAST* Crusade for a reason.

[@furrymessiah]

Playing devil's advocate here: We have seen many, MANY films in the recent past that the critics hated, but audiences loved, and was reflected in wildly different RT percentiles. And that sort of review dissonance was applauded and praised by most anti-woke KZbin channels like Doomcock, Midnight's Edge, and Drinker. So personally, I won't immediately rule the film out, though I'll keep my healthy dose of cynicism intact.

[@AnimalStomper]

Suprising that Martin Mcdonagh is so creative with that drag of a missus.

[@MrX-zz2vk]

Drinker's main channel video on Indy 5 has gone fully mainstream on KZbin. 1.6M views so far in the first 24 hours and #49 on Trending. It'll be interesting to see what the RT Audience score is after it's official release. It may indeed be DOA. And that will be fine. And Disney will give Kathleen Kennedy a rousing ovation at her retirement party.

[@mattjargon]

Yeah this NEEDS to be an abysmal flop

[@randomusername12]

10:53 why is an F-105 thunderchief in the Korean war???

[@lucara]

With this movie, I'm not even concerned about identity politics or anything of that nature, but I just don't wanna see an 80 year old Indiana Jones. That's a horrible idea!

[@lexmyster2580]

At this point I'm more excited for your reviews then I am the film 😂.

[@soloridertv]

I just wonder how Harrison Ford feels now that all of the characters that made him famous have been destroyed.

[@ItsaKindOfMagic86]

maybe he wants them to die before he does

[@jamespfp]

2:40 -- RE: "... Becuz there's a lot of Fans out there who are gonna be pissed off if this isn't good... "; You have a talent for understatement at times, Critical Drinker! Speaking as a long-time fan of the franchise, the thing which pissed me off before I even saw it was being able to predict what "Dial of Destiny" would mean in terms of the McGuffin. The Antikythera Device is *NOT* Magic, is *NOT* Science Fiction, and *CAN* be viewed in a museum. That's a McGuffin unlike *EVERY OTHER FILM* and make no mistake, it has everything to do with *THE MESSAGE* as well as finding backhanded ways of denigrating and devaluing the accomplishments of Western Civilization on the whole. This goes to show us how creatively bankrupt Hollyweird is, considering how "Access Media" is already willing to concede it sucks and hard.

[@jamespfp]

^^ See, as I listen to the rest of this clip, it suddenly occurs to me I should check what the canonical age of Indiana Jones is in terms of the narrative. I mean to say, he had to have been born sometime in the late 1890s in order to participate in World War 1, and the Antikythera Device was found when? (A: 1901)

[@Robwithakick]

When will the epic profit loss be too great for leadership and investors to stomach?

[@rfichokeofdestiny]

When they finally grow the balls to say no to the harridans in HR that demand they “celebrate diversity.”

[@roadkillofficialaustralia]

The Dial of Disaster... is yet another of the Kathleen Kennedy's heavy handing of yet another franchise to have HER desired direction of super talented women aided by a 'side-kick' bumbling man - see The Book of Boba Fett, Obi-Wan, The Mandalorian (Season 3) and the much hated, 'Sequels'! Well, most of us can't understand how KK still has a job, let alone destroying all the Lucasfilm products so she will leave her mark, that is a given! KK's EGO is the biggest issue about how Lucasfilm has spiraled into the putrid state it is in :D

[@moejoe1181]

The dial tone of density.

[@Chet_24]

I never would have guessed that Lucasfilm under Kathleen Kennedy would have a strong female character and completely immaculate the male lead.

[@samtaholo]

*emasculate

[@petermgruhn]

[Luke Skywalker on Craggy Island] I'd pay to see that. If done well. [what they were hoping to achieve] Second week box office break even.

[@Widesight]

No one will watch this. No one. Why would anyone pay (in time or money) to watch two spoilt brats (KK and PWB) smash up all their favourite toys? I’m guessing both KK and PWB were a little unloved as children and found it difficult to play with others. I blame their parents.

[@deletebilderberg]

Only one thing wonkier than this movie. Phoebe Waller-Bridge’s left eye.

[@michaeldc951]

Phoebe gets a lot of hate for taking this role, and I agree it’s going to be terrible. But why doesn’t Harrison Ford also get hate for taking this role? He could’ve refused to help them destroy not only Indiana Jones but also Han Solo.

[@MVPMVE]

He's the original actor of two of the most iconic characters in the cultural zeitgeist. Very, very, very few actors have that kind of esteem. I can only think of Keanu Reeves with Neo and Johnny Depp with Jack Sparrow as the next closest, and they don't have two. *I get that Keanu's John Wick is popular, but we're talking cultural zeitgeist here. Perhaps John Wick is still too recent, though I don't see it coming even close to the cultural impact that was/is The Matrix.

[@michaeldc951]

@@MVPMVE I’m not sure what point you are trying to make?

[@MVPMVE]

@@michaeldc951 That his status will void any criticism. Phoebe doesn't have the clout to escape hate

[@michaeldc951]

@@MVPMVE gotcha, hopefully my response didn’t come off rude or snarky. I just wanted to confirm your point before continuing!

[@michaeldc951]

@@MVPMVE I agree that is why he hasn’t received criticism. I think that we should hold original actors more accountable for taking roles like this. For him it’s an easy paycheck and he knows that he is so beloved in the community that there won’t be any repercussions for destroying an iconic character. If fans started direscting their displeasure at the people who actually have power to change the story I think they would be more cautious in the roles that they accepted. Phoebe doesn’t have his resume and Is still trying to make a name for herself in the industry. Which even though I don’t find her particularly enjoyable I don’t hate on her for accepting a role in a major franchise

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

I still despise Crystal Skull. HOWEVER, at least I didn’t feel like my boy was being disrespected or denied the ending he deserved.

[@UncleJackOnline]

The Dire lost destiny......

[@PWingert1966]

The only Phoebe that any one wants to see is in a café talking-to her Friends.

[@michaellee8816]

Indiana Jones and the Empowered Perfect Female Lead who is better than him in every way and you WILL like her better presumably wouldn't fit on the poster.....

[@JaimesPlahn]

Clint Eastwood Was 78 in Gran Torino. Near Enough The Same Age As Harrison When He Shot This. Hard To Believe Han Solo And Indy Rolled Up and Died In The Corner While Dirty Harry Is Still Being Bad Assed.

[@dalvinechevarria2136]

South Park need to do a nother indy episode