Drinker's Chasers - Netflix Tomb Raider: ANOTHER Flop For Modern Audiences

[@silverscorpio24]

Ironic how, in an effort to empower women, they took a powerful woman and made her a whiny broken man.

[@JaimeTanner-b2i]

I actually mistook her for a man at first.

[@rozu7772]

"Empowering" women was a lie they used to get into positions of power and gain support. Instead of trying to fulfill that idea, they're now trying to "empower" smaller, more specific groups. They just want to empower themselves and keep themselves in power by trying to force everyone to conform to their beliefs. No one is allowed to be more beautiful or interesting than the hacks pushing this garbage. Such things are a threat to their fragile egos.

[@sillypuppy5940]

I'm not sure how empowering women includes having hardly anyone paying attention to them.

[@salguodrolyat2594]

That is as powerful as a female can become in these woke characterisations.🤣

[@heathh7700]

Funny how these writers don't want to portray women as sexual objects, then write their sexual orientation as their only personality trait

[@matthewmosier8439]

They objectify them.. just to other women.

[@Faxie83]

She's gay btw

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

No whats funny is society claims the problem is toxic male gaze while fully embracing onlyfans as a viable career or side hustle for women. Our society is a walking contradiction

[@M00NKYMAN3R]

They've made it sexual without being sexual. Kind of ironic

[@Scoonertuna]

They're just recontextualizing them into a different category now.

[@thebear7086]

“Let’s buy a really popular IP….and change it!” The worst idea that infects every studio these days. Fire these writers!

[@Molly-ey6lq]

It's only a bad idea depending on your perspective. If your perspective is to make a successful show, gain viewers, and make money, then yes it's a bad idea. But if your goal is to tear down western civilization and systematically steal then smash every single thing your ideological opponents find joy in, they're actually being remarkably efficient and effective.

[@a_lost_one]

It's pure narcissism. "We can do it better!" No, you can't, not when you don't understand what makes them great in the first place.

[@cristela4034]

Yeah, change everything that made it popular and then wonder why people don't like it anymore.

[@Knight_Kin]

LMAO yes, let's buy an IP with a beautiful character that many people like, and turn her into a goon whom most people can't stand.

[@nathaingalt8623]

I would argue that they should fire the muppets hiring "these writers". Everyone crapping on "young people" when it's old farts doing the hiring, firing, and creative direction!

[@rhedosaurus2251]

I find it ironic how when we are talking about how Netflix is desexualizing Lara Croft, Angelina Jolie said two years ago that the live action version she played-which was the best non video game depiction of her-wasn't sexy enough. Go figure.

[@ashcarrier6606]

I provisionally agree with Angelina Jolie. She clearly thinks she could've been sexier. I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

[@Hadouken9000]

Angelina Jolie filmed some nude scenes for the first Tomb Raider movie, but they were cut because the studio wanted the PG-13 rating so it could be more family friendly. She was upset about it because Tomb Raider obviously had sex appeal for teen and young adult men, so she felt that the movie should too.

[@Knight_Kin]

@@ashcarrier6606 No scene with her coming out of the Croft Manner pool, dripping wet with skin tight swimsuit. Something which even the video games had. Any less is just not taking advantage of the strengths of the character.

[@ashcarrier6606]

@@Hadouken9000 For the life of me, as a kid in the 1980s, I can't remember the ticket seller at the theater turning me away from a R rated film. Never happened.

[@thisisnotachannel]

​@@ashcarrier6606Same here... in the 1980's, anyway. I didn't turn 17 until 1997, so I got turned away numerous times throughout the early and mid 1990's.

[@jonbaxter2254]

Wonder how soon it'll be before we're gaslit again? "STFU Chud, Lara was never attractive! And she was never made fr you, she always looked like a rugby player..."

[@45100]

My bet is one week. (But I'd say I'm too optimistic)

[@Knight_Kin]

She has the sweat stains and broad shoulders of an NFL Nose Tackle.

[@EridianX]

Do people actually not think the character is attractive? The fuck is wrong with you guys? I gotta question shit if you think they "look like a rugby player" when they are just built like a normal athletic woman with some minor curves to her figure. Like the fuck you looking for in women, do you think jessica rabbit is the average or something?

[@BenjiBoi696]

I for one was extremely attracted to the triangle tits

[@Phoenix0F8]

"It's not for you" and "It's your fault that this is failing!!!" are no longer even a venn diagram but pretty much just one circle at this point

[@chance_ondriezek99]

Who needs Phoebe Waller-Bridge to ruin Tomb Raider, when Netflix is already doing it?

[@chasehedges6775]

Netflix is sooooo hit and miss, tbh.

[@chasehedges6775]

She already ruined Solo(2018) by being the worst character in the whole movie.

[@Knight_Kin]

Phoebe Wall-Chin. You could land an airplane on that thing.

[@Knight_Kin]

@@chasehedges6775 I only know who it is because she helped ruin the latest Indy movie. What a sad way to end that character.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@Knight_Kin It’s a good thing I never saw Indian Jones 5

[@Robwithakick]

The irony is it’s an animated series. They can do absolutely ANYTHING. There’s literally no limits. No constraints. There’s no need to make it a melodramatic soap opera.

[@HybridSnake]

Nailed it on the Bond bit. We don't really care about his humanity/depth. We just like his cool factor and ordeals he overcomes. The Power Fantasy. That was what got me to start watching Bond. He was just this larger than life icon/figure. I didn't need to know his backstory or personal traumas. I watched GoldenEye and I just thought "I get it" I understood why the movies and char stood the test of time.

[@robchuk4136]

Exactly. Same with Indiana Jones. And Lara- having been inspired by both these characters - was supposed to be the female version of the same kind of archetype.

[@writerpatrick]

Bond was the epitome of the playboy lifestyle. Take that away and he's no longer Bond.

[@jancikjosef3916]

Personal trauma or trouble can be done well. Uncharted 4 has amazing subplot about Nathan's marriage being affected by his thirst for adventure. But that works only because it was small and helped in making the story more interesting. As a whole i don't need to know everything about a character, especially in action adventure.

[@wesker100000000]

That's why I never liked Craig's bond ( too human, lost the mystery, not really suave and dull, to me. I miss the larger than life James bond from Connery, Moore, Brosnan ).

[@TheNotoriousMrDee]

I was 100% in, watching Bond tear St. Petersburg apart in a tank. Nobody wants to watch him fall in love lol

[@awesomehpt8938]

They haven’t made a proper on screen depiction of Lara Croft since the Angeline Jolie version.

[@docsavage8640]

Those movies were shit though

[@IReallyBluett]

Disagree. They were big, round, firm and there were 2 of them.

[@kingvejita8827]

@@docsavage8640 thats Like ur opinion

[@chasehedges6775]

@@docsavage8640 Loved the first 2001 Angelina movie. It was good. 🙂

[@Knight_Kin]

@@docsavage8640 They were subpar overall, but nothing on the order of magnitude of what they do to her these days. At least it was still Lara, even if not great movies. That was back in the early 2000s when video game movie adaptations were still struggling to figure out how to do it. Now they don't even try, just do something totally different and it bombs.

[@blatherskite3009]

In my experience, based on girlfriends around that time, women loved the classic Tomb Raider games as much as us men. They loved Lara's no-nonsense attitude and confidence. I recall one gf being ecstatic at a bit in one of the games where Lara discovers some ancient throne room and can't resist trying the throne for size. She thought it was a lovely character moment, and said she knew before it happened that Lara would do that, because that's exactly what the character _would_ do. If people "just know" how a fictional character is going to react to a given situation, that's when you know you've created a proper character - no matter how few words she speaks, or how thinly-sketched her backstory is; she's a character. And this Netflix Lara is not the same character. There's not even a feeling that she could ever grow to become that character.

[@meme-tw8ul]

I fell asleep twice Just in episode1.

[@JaimeTanner-b2i]

She can't grow into that character. That is the point, to annihilate Lara Croft. Not because they hate her, though they do, but because you love her and they hate you and want to hurt you. That is the crux of the whole woke culture. They want to hurt us by destroying the things we love.

[@cyborgchicken3502]

It's like they're trying to turn these characters into the types of men and women you'd find in a chick flick

[@bionicleanime]

Netflix has become a dumping ground for failed adaptations of beloved IP's. They deserve to lose money.

[@docsavage8640]

Every dollar Netflix loses an angel gets his wings

[@maxmach4361]

Which is very sad, they won't be able to pay off Egypt 2bn.

[@gerald9815]

reminded me on how they woke-ified castlevania.

[@fobinc]

Not yet, Arcane season 2 about to release. Don't you put that evil on me before that ends.

[@billyboy4801]

They have plenty of bangers but I can't support after the whole shipshow with Cuties.

[@SuperHitman55]

I know they weren't the best, but I really liked the Angelina Jolie films. Yep, both of them. They were fun and she absolutely suited Lara Croft

[@jayboy2kay7]

Absolutely on point about emasculating male characters OF ANY KIND in EVERYTHING, it’s sooo overdone now and tbh, it must really piss off black dudes AND gay dudes? Like everything else in modern entertainment, they try and course correct, and end up making the worst stereotypes imaginable.

[@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533]

yeah as a gay dude its all really stupid. ive never cared about "representation". just write good stories and characters and stop trying to push propaganda. while some of the gay characters they make i find funny its a mockery and a caricature of how most of us really are. the type of gay dudes they portray are usually the ones i try to stay away from!

[@krofgninut5984]

I think society is being artificially set up to backlash against a marginal section of society, releasing their pent up rage on them instead of the people at the top who deserve it.

[@RanMouri82]

​@@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533 I also suspect those are the type of guys the showrunners surround themselves with.

[@jasonotto9126]

​@@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533I love Spiderman. He was relatable when younger and soooo much more nowadays as a struggling single dad. I'm Asian Australian. Was he? No. We don't care about them not.looking like us as most people aren't narcissists. Also can't stand what they do with black characters and also straight up erasing redheads 😂🥲

[@shimmianNS]

​@bluelunarmonkeytarot8533 agreed in every way -- I've never given half a rat's ass about "representation" -- and I loathe that they act so self-righteous and progressive to portray all gay men as over the top caricatures like Billy in Agatha; that isn't us; please don't pretend that's us

[@fyanrd4144]

As a black man…. And a long time Critical Drinker Subscriber…. You guys made an excellent point @ 04:55 ! You guys hit the nail on the head!🫡. This is getting sad… yet par for the course. SMH RIP…. Laura Croft🙏🏾

[@SterileNeutrino]

Romanian Vee in "Why Everyone Hates Dove Commercial": _So you have these individuals that are bitter about this thing. And they want to fight against reality. Now they can't really fight against reality. But they can fight and force other people to tell them what they want to hear. So even though you're not as good as [?], as long as everyone lies to you, as long as everyone tells you that you are, you're going to believe that sh*t. And this is why they actually trying to accomplish. Now how do they accomplish this? Well in the American Academia you have a couple of hags, usually ages around 60 and 65, surrounded by catpiss, who gorge themselves out of the taxpayer money - indirectly through student loans - and they thought that, okay people don't like to see images of dead kittens. It's something that most people generally don't want in their life. Like it's disturbing right? Like you don't want to see dead kittens. Like why would you want to see that? But if we actually manage to get everyone to see pictures of dead kittens - in commercials, in movies, in TV shows, in cartoons, when you go and you watch a baseball - you get to see a picture of a dead kitten then, eventually, it becomes normalized. And people will start liking to see pictures of dead kittens. This is the ideology, right? And instead of that kittens, apply everything else you want. Morbidly obese people. People that are disfigured, like like - it doesn't really matter, right. LGBT people. Like you can insert and swap everything you want. But the reality is that the ideology itself isn't working. It just doesn't work that way. When you start showing people stuff they don't want to see, like pictures of that dead kitten, they just tune out. They just don't care. And that's when they get really angry. They get really angry not because they care about the product, right. They don't care if Dove loses sales over this. They don't care if Concord doesn't sell. They don't care if Forespoken has its Studio going bankrupt. They don't give a sh*t about that. What they care is that people are rejecting the message. And they view themselves as authoritative. They view themselves as smart enough, because if their message isn't working that means that the Academia made a mistake. But the Academia cannot possibly make mistakes. They genuinely think that the Academia is the only place where humans can get knowledge from. And it has to be infallible. So if the Academia says that "if we show people pictures they don't want to see and then people will like it", when it turns out that's not the case, then they will never think that "okay maybe the premise was wrong". They will think "no maybe we're not doing it enough" and this actually happened in communism._

[@douglasstrother6584]

Him and other KZbinrs from the former East Bloc countries have particularly sensitive bullshit meters. "We lived through this: same shit, different wrapper."

[@radimnechut519]

@@douglasstrother6584 Apart from K. Kisin. But yeah, Vee really puts it well and can contextualize it historically and geographically so that you can see the problem more clearly.

[@bladedicedragon]

Don’t forget Hollywood’s obsession with turning redheads black, especially comic book characters

[@reaperbot5226]

The majority of people who do Lara Croft cosplay often tend to use the older model with more feminine figures over the newer model with more masculine figures.

[@namishusband818]

OG Lara ftw.

[@EridianX]

Define masculine. What do you think that means? Do you actually think a twig woman with big tits and ass can climb ruins and shit and fight like lara croft does? No. The new renditions of her character are what a person that can climb a mountain and whoop your ass would look like. Like a normal female athlete.

[@Xayl42]

Well yeah...because most woman also have more tits then new lara

[@RedRoman87]

It's because Lara Croft cosplayers are woman. It's difficult for a woman to play a (broken) manly Lara Croft. There are not many crossplayers as of yet. Oddly enough I think I have seen some of the perverts crossplaying as some other sexy girls.

[@DB.KOOPER]

Thats because thats the only real Lara Croft. This modern itteration isn't her.

[@Herr_Affe]

1:57 "I don't know why they did it." Yes, you do. We all know that franchises of old need to be sacrificed on the altar of progress.

[@itsaKindaMagik]

"pRoGrEss"

[@kingcosworth2643]

Yep, sacrificed to the God of climate and women

[@ravenshrike]

Thing is, she's not allowed to like treasure hunting as that's nasty colonialist thinking. Which means all her motivation to go on her adventures has to either be saving the world or personal trauma.

[@Naptosis]

I like to wind up the activists by saying "you say 'coloniser' like it's a bad thing". 😆

[@don.keebles]

That's like making an anti-war Master Chief. It just completely destroys the character's whole purpose.

[@stevenwalker7835]

The whole gay black correlation Kat Williams spoke about this on the infamous club shay shay episode where Hollywood had a weird obsession with putting prominent black comedians & actors in dresses these industries seem to always have dark & creepy secrets

[@zenksren8206]

aka humiliation rituals

[@vernonhampton5863]

​@@zenksren8206 fka buck-breaking.

[@robchuk4136]

This is the change that bothers me most because Zip wasnt some macho dude he needed changing. He was one of the first "Black nerds" I can remember from a game. I related. Thought that's what they wanted.

[@vernonhampton5863]

@@robchuk4136 I hate that terms blerd and black nerd. Nerd is nerd, period.

[@kingcosworth2643]

Dave Chapelle has a story from the Chapelle show days where they tried stuffing him in a dress and he wouldn't have a bar of it and it created quite the fight.

[@kobblestonemc]

The Templars are the enemies again? Christ, can we not?

[@БогданБогданов-в8в]

Might as well just do an Assassin's Creed crossover while they're at it.

[@hariman7727]

The knights Templar are almost a safer Target than Nazis nowadays, according to Hollywood.

[@hellacoorinna9995]

No Original thought in their heads.

[@Br4dSp34d]

@@БогданБогданов-в8в she can fight an undead version of the black samurai and then come together to take down the rich white guys who are the TRUE enemy

[@salguodrolyat2594]

Convenient villains being mostly white middle aged men.🤣

[@Mulletmanalive]

They may claim to be trying to make it “universally appealing” but they’re also trying to boil the frog with unattractive women, which my marketing training indicates are even less tolerable to women as they are to men. Anyone adult in the room should be pointing this out.

[@The_child-catcher]

The funny thing is original Laura IS universally appealing. This sad, angry, muscle woman appeals to pretty much just the people that made the show.

[@hariman7727]

The fun fact about those boiled frog experiments is how they had to lobotomize the frogs to keep them from jumping out of the pot. It was only frogs that had the self-preservation center of their brain killed that didn't jump out of the pot.

[@shrikeofterven6006]

Nah, they are not doing this for any women. This is all about making the men who claim to be women happy by making "women" characters blocky and chunky and lantern-jawed and ugly.

[@incurableromantic4006]

Why am I not in the slightest surprised that Lara is now a plain, baggy-clothed lesbian. 🙄

[@IStealButterdToast]

Because it’s the automatic thing they do every time they acquire a new IP

[@hawkeye5955]

It's already got a chick in it. They just had to make it lame and gay.

[@EridianX]

"plain" lol. My dude, have you ever SEEN an actual woman? The vast majority of women do not look like super models with massive tits and asses wearing skimpy clothes all day. Even the most tame rendition of lara croft in games and shows still looks like an easy 8 out of 10 compared to the average.

[@elemomnialpha]

Because you have the rare ability of "pattern recognition"

[@howaboutsomesoyfood]

she's even more homely looking than in the reboot games.

[@RanMouri82]

I'm a female and prefer classic Lara Croft. I only rented the games from Blockbuster a few times, but it was simple fun playing as her going on adventures.

[@DavidLehmann-yd5ur]

She was never gay. Why do it now. Why do they keep doing this?

[@freakangel0170]

For the 'MODERN AUDIENCE' which is about as real as climate change!!!

[@hariman7727]

It's a power move. The people pushing this sort of ideology want there to be no place for anyone who disagrees to escape or even be heard as disagreeing.

[@NoidoDev]

Everyone paying for these streaming services, or not caring where their savings are ending up, enables them.

[@somechinesedude5466]

​lara feel more on the bi & butchy Pretty sure she ain't flirting much either, since most men in OG TR was either support character or villain

[@MarkOakleyComics]

It's just bitter vandalism. Savages throwing bricks through stained glass windows out of spite.

[@SpiffingNZ]

Someone needs to add "Of *course* she's a Lesbian" to TVTropes.

[@psyopticprodigy2427]

How long till at least one of these writers realize that maybe, just maybe, this modern audience they are chasing doesn't exist.

[@Knight_Kin]

They won't come to that realization without the failure of their projects. They're making this stuff for themselves with no regard on it's broader appeal.

[@freakangel0170]

They don't care as it's not their money that's getting wasted. The only time they will care is when companies they work for re-size staff or go bankrupt/bust....and that's starting to happen everywhere as we're seeing.

[@anaussie213]

It exists on reddit, but they don't play games, they just post nonsense.

[@AmericanAdvancement]

@@Knight_KinThat will never persuade them. If anything, the failure will be interpreted as having failed because they didn’t push the message hard enough. They are religious zealots who will never be convinced that they are in the wrong and it will take the entire industry to implode before any hope of change can be achieved.

[@rozu7772]

We were all supposed to submit to their whims and become the "modern audience", that's why these hacks harass everyone and blame everyone else for their garbage failing.

[@charmingpeasant9834]

The showrunner in her interviews talked about the show in a way that made it pretty clear she didnt intend to make it for male Tomb Raider fans at all, all she talked about were women and girls. And there seem to be same kind of women in charge of writing the next TR game too.

[@Very-old-man]

Fine with me. Never liked Tomb Raider but my sisters loved it. I’m sure they will have fun

[@itsaKindaMagik]

it made for the college rainbow dye haired tourists

[@Very-old-man]

@@itsaKindaMagik Judging by your other comments/ your channel description of course this is what you think 🤣. I bet you haven’t even watched it.

[@teknoaxe]

When the Tom Raider franchise adopts the cartoon style of the legend of Korra, then you know the show is fukd.

[@crawlingboy]

I despise Korra for what it did to avatar but it still has better animation then this garbage

[@HERITAGE12]

Classic Lara is EVERYTHING these idiots hate. literal royaly, she's Lady Croft with all the wealth privilage and status that brings and THATS what makes her work as an archetype because THAT character can fly anywhere in the world at anytime to do adventuring. bring her down to OUR level? and she's too broke to afford any weapons, has to wait weeks on end for a Visa to get anywhere, and has an afternoon shift at Tescos to do. they literally DONT get it. and thats before you get to the hate of the system she's embodies. putting "progressives" - and lets be honest were talking commies - in charge of Lara was NEVER Gonna work.

[@Kemot300]

The voice actress (Hayley Atwell) looks much closer to the game Lara Croft than the Lara Croft they drawn for the show

[@cristela4034]

They nailed the voice, and botched everything else.

[@chasehedges6775]

Feel bad for Hayley Atwell deserves better. She’s a good actress.

[@awilson5684]

​@chasehedges6775 the only thing that I've seen her bad at is doing an American accent.

[@Knight_Kin]

Hayley Atwell has a gorgeous figure. It's almost criminal how she looks like Lara but the animation does not. the voice actress is stunning compared to the frump she plays. Even in the soldier's uniform in Captain American movies, she comes off as authentically feminine. She's only 42, she still could pull it off.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@awilson5684 I bet she could do a decent job at being American tho. Lot of British actors nail it.

[@Grubnar]

There is this scene, i can't remember what it is from, two men are having breakfast, one looks down into his bawl and asks "What IS this?" and the other responds, "I think it is porridge." The first guy then asks "How do you f*ck-up porridge?" That is how I feel now. How do you F*ck-up Lara Croft??? It seems like it should be very simple and easy to do right!

[@Knight_Kin]

T&A and Guns, it couldn't be simpler.

[@lucymiau5700]

There was a kind of a Lara Croft Show aired from 1999 to 2002, called "Relic Hunter".

[@Neil.02]

It’s funny how they claim to care about « inclusivity and representation » yet aren’t bothered with excluding attractive women and other demographics they don’t like. "Anyone more attractive or interesting than i am is OFFENSIVE because is said so!"

[@supercasualgamer513]

4:54 - 5:40 That's exactly right 💯 I've been talking about it with the people around me and it's been picking up steam within the community. This has to stop. It's disrespectful, disingenuous, and reductive. Tysm for speaking on this 🙏

[@MMLynnmarie]

It almost seems like buck breaking black men and I don't like it. I would LOVE to see masculine black men who aren't villains. I'm LOVE to see black women who aren't ghetto comical relief. Just old.

[@supercasualgamer513]

@@MMLynnmarie so true. This yet another attempt to break us They can't stand our strength 🖤

[@franciscorafaelmontielpale7854]

For Hollywood being solely focused on making "girlbosses", they love to turn cgaracters like Lara Croft into a clomplete weakling... At this point is just like Ark, its all a self-insert power fantasy being done by the same person, because the similarities with the shows is just copy and paste when it comes to the Protagonists.

[@Molly-ey6lq]

Look up the term "satanic inversion". That explains why do what they do

[@jahquanfoster6974]

"They love Black people just not the strong independent thinking ones" Damn that summed it up perfectly.

[@chrisbj5251]

Netflix is literally doing the: "Put a chick on it and making lame and gay!" Thing.

[@dadocta5168]

I hope viewership for this show is piss so they axe it immediately following Resident Evil, Cowboy Bebop and Scavenger's Reign. (That last one was HBO Max but still awful).

[@Knight_Kin]

It will not get good ratings, that we can all but guarantee. It only could appeal to Tomb Raider fans, but they made it so those very fans will hate the show. It's another slop show they'll dump and move on.

[@xinfr4z893]

Zip was firstly introduced in Chronicles in the VCI (Von Croy Industries) chapter of the game. And he offered assistance to Lara, since she was breaking in a high security building by giving insight about traps, enemies and puzzles. He was that kind of annoying but at the same time playful guy.

[@kc9937]

The Gundam Series wasn't as disrespected as Tomb Raider, but the golden era of Netflix is long gone.

[@dbf1dware]

At about 8:00, Drinker comments (with regard to Phoebe Waller B), "they're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole." My thought was, "they're trying to fit a peg into a hole that hates pegs."

[@guardian08527]

Netflix: She's a Lesbian Internet: Of course she is, we didn't expect anything less from you.

[@JohnnyJustice777]

Whats next? Donkey Kong identifies as female?

[@itsaKindaMagik]

it is netflix the same company that took the Menedez bros true crime story and turned into fanfic smut misrepresenting the brothers as "into eachother" just to cater to drooling fangirls

[@secondchance6603]

@@JohnnyJustice777 Where's Finding Nemo's Gender, Peter Pansexual and Ralph Breaks Toxic Masculinity?

[@wrath231]

"Thats a man, man!" Austin Powers.

[@DogeZzzz]

Can we go back to the time when Lara Croft was just a rich sociopath that would just kill anyone and anything to get what she wanted It's kinda funny that by trying to make Lara Croft a nice person, they ended up removing all the personality that she used to have and now she is just "woman"

[@Knight_Kin]

That's why the lezzy blue-haired whale hogs should never have power in anything. I can't think of a single movie or game franchise they don't ruin these days. One word: J E A L O U S Y

[@Forrestwing]

THIS🙏🏻

[@isaackane4931]

I remember in an old game magazine I saw as a kid, maybe Gamepro not sure, and it had a sexy pinup of Lara lying naked beneath bedsheets for an article talking about the series. It really is such a stark contrast compared to the olden days when companies actively wanted to show off how sexy their female characters were. To now where you're a horrible sexist bigot if you dare think a woman shouldn't be as mannish as possible. At least the indie space isn't afraid to show that women are indeed women.

[@vwlssnvwls3262]

I played the first three games on release, and the first reboot game. I loved those games, the character, the stories, and I love the Angelina movies. This cartoon, and what some of the newer games are doing is just sad, because they are killing the character and replacing her with the most generic, pathetic character ever.

[@thePsiMatrix]

That last bit reminds me of Syndrome from The Incredibles: "When everyone's Super; no-one will be!"

[@meteor22]

South Park rings true yet again..."Make her gay, make her lame".

[@mr.mediocregamer9653]

Remember when Tia Carerra was in that show, "Relic Hunter?" They made sure they had some excuse to put her in her underwear for like, 15% of every episode. I miss those days. I want those days back. Not this... Not this...

[@Paulafan5]

Why make a show/movie out of a popular IP if you aren't going to be as faithful as possible? I guess you can say that out of 95% of things Hollywood does today. The Angelina Jolie movies weren't great, but when you saw the trailer you said "that's Lara Croft". The outfit, the attitude, the guns...

[@bogstandardash3751]

Several reasons: New IP is hard to get commissioned generally. LGHDTV+ media needs to attach itself to successful straight IP. Otherwise non LGHDTV+ audiences just assume it's not for them and ignore it. Their thinking is that they get more audience this way.

[@Knight_Kin]

@@bogstandardash3751 I disagree. I think the purpose of acquiring and changing the IP is political and has no bearing on it's financial success. The purpose IS to change the beloved character, that's the goal. Making money is not. Never give a lunatic 50 million dollars to blow, you will never see it again.

[@AmericanAdvancement]

⁠@@bogstandardash3751Clever. I love me my LGHDTV+ so long as it successfully bypasses any mathematical algorithms that may be improperly employed

[@TheUnsungVil]

It‘s beyond me how the studio bosses allow those talentless hacks to ruin a profitable franchise - effectively killing their revenue and bonuses in the process 🤯

[@seefoghall]

They don't care, the studios keep getting these low interest ESG/DIE loans. There is very little talent in Hollywood left, it has been infiltrated by alphabet activists obssessed with sexuality

[@JustTooDamnHonest]

Netflix lost its credibility after the Cuties incident.

[@GaudiaCertaminisGaming]

Characters can’t just be 'gay', they have to be 'seen', they have to be visibly gay, which means turning them into flamboyant 'silly Billy’ clowns

[@Autobotmatt428]

Zips look is a stereotype of the Gay Blackman. I mean that look up Bowie from total drama island 2024.

[@Solly-Tom]

I have a friend who'd be an excellent live-action Lara. She's British, Busty, and Beautiful. Also short and unathletic, but I'd put up with it to see a proper Lara.

[@marbellaotaiza801]

12:37 of course you can. The original Duck Tales was a perfect adventure TV series.

[@329link]

So I decided to play the OG games for the first time (the real OG games, not the remasters), and let me tell you, it was refreshing to see the intro for the first level where Lara confirms her guide is dead, says nothing and moves on into the tomb. No bullshit, just keep moving. Really says a lot about how differently she was portrayed back then, because this "Lara" would've probably spent a good few hours crying about that guy before moving past the doors.

[@Mr.E_Bodhako]

As soon as in the 2nd episode when Lara is collecting the 2nd red box, Lara did the same chin wipe as Indiana Jones did in his first movie to judge the weight of the gold idol to replace it with a bag of sand, for the booby trap that triggered the bolder, but Lara just did it for no reason as nothing happened. i knew this was going to be a thing. episode 5 Lara and bad guy struggle to get the artifact in a crowd of people that end up kicking it around by mistake as they try to flee... just like at the start of Indiana Jones 2 with the antidote and the diamond in the club. episode 8 has two of the puzzles/trails from Indiana Jones 3, The Name of God Puzzle... Jehovah. Professor Henry Jones: But in the Latin alphabet, "Jehovah" begins with an "I", where you can only step on certain tiles or they fall away. Then there is the Leap of Faith trail where you step out into seemingly nothingness but are able to keep on walking just like Indy did... ._.

This is the reason why I pirate all the movies I watch. Their not getting a single dime of my money.

[@chasehedges6775]

True💯💯💯. Or just wait till it’s free on streaming.

[@RCAvhstape]

I wait for reviews, then pay for the ones I will probably like. Good movies and TV deserve to get paid.

[@Knight_Kin]

Sailing the high seas but finding nothing worth taking.

[@Knight_Kin]

@@RCAvhstape I agree. That's why I bought all of Dragon Ball Super, i enjoyed it so much when I ripped it (after not watching DBZ for almost two decades) that I wanted to support the creators. I pirated one season to see if i'd like it - yep. So i purchased the whole thing. It was a sequel that felt genuinelly gounded to the previous series. It still bothers me that Toriyama passed :(

[@chasehedges6775]

@@Knight_Kin Yo Ho

[@大-g4b5]

Young Indiana Jones, whatever you think of it, at least had him going on adventures.

[@jneilson7568]

Except for the Busby Berkley homage episode which was more of a musical rom-com 😮 but plenty of stronger episodes too.

[@annjacobs7764]

It's obvious how much effort you put in!

[@katajiro8178]

3:33 - Zip was introduced in Chronicles in the Von Croy's tower missions. He was the guy on the radio.

[@frankam3443]

Lara Croft - Tomb Raider: The quest for a safe space.

[@MichaelEarnedIt-19]

Whatever is this modern audience? It’s the same thing as sports chasing the “casual fans”. I’d rather keep the traditional audience. The modern audience means nothin to me. They have a market. You can either keep it or you can lie to yourself saying theirs “more to chase.” You have your core audience isn’t that enough?

[@docsavage8640]

Even if the "modern audience existed," it has proven to be too small to support a show enough for it to make money so why would anyone keep trying to appeal to them?

[@PBRatLord]

Said it a million times. They are creating the modern audience. That's why they have been targeting the younger generation for the past decade and flooding media with the message. It's all to have a generation of people raised on the message rather than good media. Normalize the obscene and bizarre while brutally shouting down anyone in the opposition as being morally bankrupt. They don't care if they lose money in the short term, they are banking on the long term investment.

[@Adelina-293]

The modern audience is real as a niche thing which doesn't warrant having IPs rewritten for it at great expense.

[@cristela4034]

The "modern audience" doesn't buy anything and have an attention span of 30 sec, that's why they only watch Tik Tok.

[@MichaelEarnedIt-19]

@@Adelina-293 That’s my whole point. The whatever is the modern audience is a joke. Because they don’t exist. In the next sentenceI was comparing the modern to the fake audience that sports are also chasing is fake. You already have a market. Stick with those whom were there from the begging and have passed it onto their kids. Then you will always have an audience.

[@MegaJani]

It's called a legend because they only know the character from hearsay.

[@Memelord2020]

If this show flopped, then how come it JUST got renewed for a second season?

[@mikimiki3355]

12:40 who remembers the show "Relic Hunter" ... the closest thing to a lara Croft TV show.

[@Gakusangi]

In an industry full of fatherless people, the only storyline they can write is the loss of a father figure. Angelina Jolie even went so far as to match her movements up with the character from the game, she moved like Lara Croft, that was great!

[@jneilson7568]

Her stunt work was really impressive too, Jolie just didn't get dizzy doing the trickier flips and spins onto moving objects. At least that's how they sold it in the making-of.

[@bearoftheinterestvevo1558]

I've seen multiple people and media outlets call this "the Tomb Raider Anime", and I must say I hate how often these really soulless bland action shows written and storyboarded in LA or Texas, and animated in a Korean animation sweatshop, get labelled as 'anime' as a marketing gimmick because otherwise adult animation in the west is exclusively the domain of shitty Family Guy or Rick and Morty clones If I wanted to watch a bad anime, I'd just watch Jujutsu Kaisen!

[@crawlingboy]

Pisses me off way too much cause they know that anime only recently has gotten mainstream and popular so they use it to get the attention of youngsters When it is just a animated series I bet they also call it anime cause the characters do not look like beans which is what every animated series from the west is nowadays

[@vernonhampton5863]

4:49 The Angry Badger nailed it. The SSAB is one of the worst new character trope.

[@TheSkepticalPanda]

The last time I was this early for an upload Drinker was still sober.

[@ShuckStalker]

My wife was looking forward to this show, but got mad at me for commenting on it's poor writing. I was checked out after the bike chase down sequence in episode one or two. Glad to hear I didn't waste my time with this series. Animation looked good at first, but damn.

[@achtungfox]

As a little girl I loved Lara. Despite the graphics, which was amazing at the time, it was her personality that shined through those limited polygons. This version is, in the words of "Kathy Kennedy" lame and gay

[@AxelYates]

13:40 right there with Mauler and Badger. Action Booba Rich Chick Loading guns was all we needed

[@gregorysmull8068]

It's called Disneyfication (referring to handling of the MCU and Star Wars.) Trying to convert a genre that is known to predominantly appeal to men appeal to more women. The women never cared to watch, and still don't, and the men are repulsed by the product.

[@TheBlackSeraph]

13:45 - I think it's more a case of very few writers know how to do character progression for female characters. The fact that there are more female writers in Hollywood doesn't seem to have changed that fact. We have a few more female tropes but considering many women in Hollywood are activists that are in denial about the existence of archetypal psychology (and the fact that it's different for men and women) among other things.

[@cpuuk]

Lara didn't shoot anyone anyone who didn't need shooting in the first place.

[@sethkaicer319]

I'm dressing as the little platoon this Halloween 🕺

[@docsavage8640]

He's still not gonna date you, bro

[@sethkaicer319]

@@docsavage8640 you're my type huckleberry

[@wishingwell12345]

Sounds like they've done to Lara exactly what was done to Dr Who - the show stopped being about the cool and crazy adventures he went on, and became a tedious soap opera about him and his companions and his FEELINGS.

[@jneilson7568]

Urrrgh it was all over when Christopher Eccleston's Doctor left, at least he had no time for the 'domestic'. Lara was the epitome of no-nonsense achievement, no wonder they had to change her.

[@R2D6_10]

We now know the modern audience is about 300 people.

[@mcblaggart8565]

Indiana Jones with the morals of Duke Nukem. VS "Put a chick in it, and make her lame and gay!"

[@JayM928]

"Representation" for others that don't represent the author is patronizing. "Look, I put in a stereotype of you! You're welcome!" "Representation" for yourself (eg Leslye Headland) is narcissistic.

[@mo_musashi_284]

Seriously these cringe writers currently are just copy and paste drones.

[@biggiecheese726]

Careful, Ya Boi Zack’s gonna go on another unhinged rant about how you haven’t even seen it or that you waited until everyone else saw it first

[@harbl99]

Oh he's broadened his target range to just insulting British people as a whole now. Go on Zack, tell us how our food is bad and that we have wonky teeth.

[@NoidoDev]

Let's just ignore him.

[@oodanna500]

a slow downhill ride where theyre trying to ruin every single established franchise so that eventually theres nothing BUT garbage to consume

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯. Yep, a desolate wasteland of garbage.

[@chasehedges6775]

There’s no heroes or role models to look up to anymore.

[@RCAvhstape]

Eventually there will an underground industry making good stuff. Maybe a return to 70s style films with low budgets but great writing and acting.

[@xIronKnucklex]

We need to stop asking “Why do they keep doing this?” to beloved IPs. We know why. It’s to push an ideology that isn’t embraced or held by the majority, to fundamentally change our values, beliefs, and what we view as normal across a range of issues. (Fat is beautiful and healthy, validating mental illness is compassion and progress, etc.) These companies know the modern audience is a relatively tiny subset of people that anyone with a shred of sense wouldn’t waste time, money, and resources catering to. They continue to burn hundreds of millions in their quest to push The Message across as much media as they can. People ask why these companies and studios don’t just start writing their own new characters and stories instead of ruining beloved characters and franchises by pouring modern slop all over them. The answer is that these IPs have millions of established, longtime fans, which took years to build and would take years to build for a new IP (and only if it was successful). It’s easier to push The Message onto an existing audience then to try and do it via new IPs that no one would be interested in and wouldn’t engage with based on the terrible content. People will keep consuming Star Wars, Star Trek, Dr. Who, etc. no matter how shitty they become because they’re blindly loyal, longtime fans. Makes it much easier to push propaganda on them when all they do is brainlessly consume said IP.

[@xIronKnucklex]

*than to try Won’t let me edit my comment but it’s annoying me lol.

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

Lara is now Sam Winchester from supernatural.

[@AkariC]

"Look! I hear you! I really do!" every episode ever...

[@kingvejita8827]

Hey u leave my boy alone at least he's entertaining and nice to see, cant say the same about this shit

[@WrathOfHell999]

Yeah! Both are full of soy (that Texas ranger remake was awfully gay)

[@cristela4034]

@@WrathOfHell999 Yeah, I liked Supernatural so I checked "Walker". Gave up on it after two episodes.

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

​@@AkariC Look, Dean, i get it, i do.

[@robsan52]

As a Yank i just love the collection of commonwealth accents!! Oh and yeah, i really like the chat group. Thanks guys!

[@chrisrpm8728]

The problem these days is that the writers have no sense of the pool that stories like Tomb Raider, or Star Wars are derived from - pulpy, Boys Own adventure tales and movie serials, or they’re extremely embarrassed by it. These writers grew up watching Buffy or The OC where it’s all about the relationship dramas, they have no idea about the mechanics of heroic storytelling, that’s why everything we loved as kids is now being bent out of shape because the people at the wheel have the wrong idea about what it is and what made it work in the first place. For example, look at how Ron Howard (a contemporary of Lucas) approached SOLO - it’s a fun, swashbuckling romantic adventure - because he’s familiar with the ingredients that George put into SW. Compare that to TLJ or The Acolyte - which seek to deconstruct the genre, are heavily analogous with real life, modern day issues, and characters talk to each other like it’s a therapy session - that would be perfect for Buffy, but it’s not SW. We need people writing these things that have a love for, and understanding of the genre they’re in.

[@Jonas-lj8ul]

Hollywood's obsession with chasing the mythical "modern audience" shows they've never really understood that the saying "a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush" actually isn't a dirty British expression....

[@NoidoDev]

5:10 - HEYYY... Robosexuals are not gay. The real issue with the Star Wars gynoid in Soylo was that she was also a unhinged "robot rights activist" or abolitionist, and not looking very good.

[@tylertheguy3160]

There was a show from the late 90's/early 2000's called Relic Hunter with Tia Carrere as the lead. It was basically as close to Tomb Raider as something could be without getting sued. It was a fun show.

[@kerravon4159]

Their strategy seems to be that if they wish hard enough for the mythical 'modern audience' then it will magically appear. It seems they're not wishing hard enough.

[@mandodw2341]

That quote isn’t just relatable for black people but all people “they love x or y people, just not the free, independent and thinking people”

[@chaosiscoming9184]

Hello, Jerry here, I'm a doctor, sometimes a stripper, also do dog sitting every other weekend, paint when I'm free, play football every summer, swim after I go gym everyday, also I'm captain of the neighbourhood watch, do DJ here and there, won over 50 trophies and play Fall guys. I just wanted to add my point here... we need a Tomb Raider part 2 movie. Sorry had to edit as I forgot something, I also got won best pizza this morning and got another medal.

[@emperorsean1]

The Angelina Jolie movies were great. They werent amazing but were fun. In the original games she was looking for her mother who dissapeared.

[@Zephyr503]

'I'm the Tomb Raider and you have to deal with it!'

[@jneilson7568]

Feck off, Korra...😂

[@docsavage8640]

I wonder when Hollywood will get tired of losing money.

[@chasehedges6775]

Modern 2020s Hollywood seems to enjoy destroying the past to control the future. It’s depressing and annoying

[@chindleymuffin]

When companies like BlackRock and Vanguard stop funding them basically. They are the main problem because they are obsessed with funding this Woke "forced diversity" nonsense, they fund most of the major studios like Disney & Warner Bros Discovery, they invest hundreds of millions in these studios.

[@shinobi-no-bueno]

Atwell is the perfect live action Lara. Bazoongas for days