Drinker's Chasers - They Knew Agatha Would Fail All Along

[@heskymarky]

Remember: it's not made for you, so if you don't like it, don't watch it. Also, if it fails, it's your fault.

[@antonackermann9620]

I'm... surprisingly fine with that.

[@luelee6168]

Typical modern women behavior.

[@skxlter5747]

It's made for gay teens and middle aged single moms

[@ghrosenb]

@@skxlter5747 Bingo! You know, the typical American superhero audience.

[@archibalddefloofen8978]

Also if you don't like it your an ist

[@Tim_the_Enchanter]

It was apathy all along.

[@AscendantStoic]

Ziiing 😅

[@DarthUmbra]

And I killed Star Wars too. HaHaHa!

[@AlexCoombes123]

Eyyyy, you made a funny!

[@CompanionRohaa]

Nice.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@AscendantStoic 💯

[@pinball8701]

I liked the part where the middle-aged women ate pizza and talked about foundation brushes. Now that's superhero entertainment.

[@wesleythomas7125]

ClownfishTV says we get to see her 🍑, so...

[@GeoffryGifari]

didn't watch the show... this was actually in it?

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Our timeline should have ended when Aubrey Plaza turned 30. Maybe it did, and now we are living in a world that has moved on.

[@ChanceX74]

@@GeoffryGifari I took it as a rip on TikTok content. They're talking about watching a TikTok video for clues. One party asks the other if they learned anything. The other says "I learned you're using the wrong foundation brush." You know, because every woman in every TT video is doing their makeup while they record. Either they boys missed the joke or didn't want to get it because they're looking for anything they can to comment negatively on. I got the joke and found it amusing.

[@Albtraumgirl]

@@ChanceX74ha I don’t even use a brush I use my Hands 🙌 😂

[@mangofett927]

I feel like the ONLY reason this show exists is because there was some executive that caught on to the winking meme from Wandavision and said "aha! Thing is popular! Quick! Make a show about thing!"

[@FalconR200]

the real agatha was the gay acolyte witches all along

[@chasehedges6775]

THIS💯💯💯

[@CountStoczkowski]

"And put tons of women in it and make them gay!!!!"

[@dxg999]

What, they're making yet another Fantastic Four movie?

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

It is a political artificat to keep the conflict going among people on social media. Safe to say, these type of shows are being successful so far, as long as KZbinrs are taking the bait and feeding their fire.

[@AppleInk]

Man, that interviewer who asked if the show was gay, singlehandedly killed the show before we even had the chance to sh!t on it. Good job lol.

[@tkps]

Another KZbinr I like started attacking these guys saying they don't watch what they criticise when they do. He said they only reported the actors answers when we just heard them say, not for the first time, the intervewer pushed the question but also said the actors readily agreed which they did. The other guy said the actors had no choice when there's always choice. US access media splashed the actors answers all over their headlines so who's to blame? If actors were better trained, they'd deflect & still give a good answer. Or maybe they do agree.

[@davidgantenbein9362]

@@tkpsIt was an official marketing event, if Disney didn’t want that question to be asked, that guy would have been removed fast. If the actors didn’t want to answer that question, they would have ignored that one guy. If the media wasn’t paid by Disney, they wouldn’t have glorified everything Disney. So yeah, there were no bad accidents in any of this.

[@daviddiggens8841]

The actors just had to say the show was for everyone but nope Can't keep their politics out of it

[@Moonmonkian]

Lumpy Space Princess.

[@sanktheboat]

I want to believe that Aubrey Plaza is still playing April Ludgate, and gave that answer just to troll everybody.

[@alexandresobreiramartins9461]

It's made for the writers, AZ. They just make it for themselves. And if it doesn't make the money back, it's not the writers' problem, because they suffer no consequences.

[@kevinsampson8099]

Exactly right. The people who make this stuff don't give a damn whether it makes money or loses money, they get paid either way. It's all about them building clout within their own identity groups. What Marvel (and Disney) needs to do is start hiring writers on contingency and paying them only a percentage of the gross.

[@GeoffryGifari]

no consequences? that's assuming they're gonna keep getting hired for the foreseeable future, right?

[@commotiocordis1037]

@@GeoffryGifari I would say that's precisely there assumption, yes. And thing is... they aren't wrong, this has been going on and getting worse for how long? You keep hearing that things are changing the tide is turning, but I don't see it. So DEI has a bad rap, okay, we'll call it ESG, when that gets a bad rap, we'll call it BRIDGE... there's no sign that chickens are coming home to roost. Consequently, if I was one of these writers? I'd also just assume that "yeah, sure, this gravy train isn't stopping any time soon!"

[@scottball2796]

Actually its your fault (collectively our fault) for being bigots and not wanting to watch something that 'wasnt made for you' anyway 😂. Its like a murderer asking 'why dont you like me stabbing you? I've put effort into this so you have to enjoy it!'

[@Mereologist]

@@GeoffryGifari If it fails, they'll talk about how victimized they were by the audience and how they never really got a chance with those horrible people out there.

[@natholloway9147]

I don't think they care if they make a profit. I think they are looking at this as "We invested $150 million into the alphabet community." They're ticking a box for their blackrock investors.

[@ahabduennschitz7670]

this!

[@luelee6168]

Right? Because so long as they make no profit they can write this sh*t off on their taxes and the State will give them credit.

[@55Andy555]

Yup, it's all ESG.

[@MJKeenan30]

Yeah. Az nailed it and CD sounds a bit naive in this one.

[@AdeleKakwandi]

Bingo! They made a show about middle aged gay wotches, they didn't care about having an audience they cared about their ESG score and the dividends they would get from that

[@Lithilic]

The entire point of acquiring Marvel was for Disney to grab the young male demographic that they weren't getting with their family friendly Disney princess movies. But instead of catering to and cultivating that audience, they proceeded to dilute the appeal of the brand to the demographic it was strongest in, ruining its unique value proposition for them. This is like marketing 101 level stuff to understand, does everyone just fail up in these large entertainment companies?

[@SAsaiyajin]

Ironically, Disney actually targeted boys as well with Aladdin, Lion King, Hercules and Tarzan. Hence the Kingdom Hearts series and many other merchandise. The problem was more so 3D animation being more cheaper and the last few animated movies with male protagonists werent as succesfull financially. Also Pokémon had a massive influence, not just for anime but for kids to be more invested into a IP which went deeper than just the typical fantasy or super hero.

[@thagomizer8485]

To answer your last question: yes. But only if you have the right connections.

[@sooperd00p]

No it wasn't. The scene in every MCU movie where the lead male actor "accidentally" takes his shirt off is for a heterosexual 18 year old captain of the lacrosse team? Are you sure it was always designed for men? I mean the male hero beats up bad guy....but this are movies for women and 3 year olds.

[@ghrosenb]

@Lilithic Bingo! The corporate culture has undermined the corporate strategy, to the point of nearly destroying it. It will be an amazing business case study someday.

[@ghrosenb]

@@sooperd00p Yeah, that scene you're thinking of? It was for teenage boys who were living vicariously through the hero, imagining someday they could have that sort of strength and appeal. It was fine for gay men to enjoy it differently but hijacking the whole brand is wrong.

[@Elderflowerpunch]

I'm a middle aged woman and I would never watch this garbage. Gonna watch Deadpool and Wolverine again.

[@takuid]

Deadpool and Wolverine bankrolls this shite. as long as you realize that watch whatever you like..

[@nealgrimes4382]

@@takuid Not with my money it doesn't.

[@takuid]

@@nealgrimes4382nor mine

[@daysofboyhood]

They're insulting middle aged women and gay people by thinking they'll go for this dross.

[@alien777]

😂😂😂😂

[@chance_ondriezek99]

It’s almost like marketing it as “the gayest show ever” doesn’t appeal to anyone aside from wine moms.

[@DrTeeth66]

I don't even see that as marketing - It's just an excuse to dismiss all criticism as homophobic and demonize critics as hateful. It's not really working anymore though. lol

[@parapoliticos52]

I dont know...some girl on girl action scenes always make a show more interesting. The fight scene was the best part of the 1 st episode. Although it felt incomplete. Think of kill bill Beatrix fight with Vernita Green but with a different climax.

[@christopher9152]

@@parapoliticos52 Middle aged women do not make for good "girl on girl" action.

[@ShadowRulah]

​@@williampotter3369That's the point. When they talk about "expanding their audience" they mean making supshoes. shows for people who don't watch superhero shows.

[@SGxShadow]

@@williampotter3369 ...is the wine mom your wife? If so... wink if you need help. LOL!

[@nuyabuisness7526]

Who turned the writers into a bunch of soy drinking hacks appealing to no one? Who tried to attract in the 10% of women that would actually care by alienating 80% of their male audience? Who replaced every well written male character with a girlboss strong female that faces no challenges? It was Agatha all along.

[@othertalk3313]

More like Agatha all went wrong... or like... Agatha hits from the bong... but actually just... Agatha wears a schlong. 👩🧹👉👌

[@stephenpmurphy591]

90% of the male audience.

[@darkgreenrifleman4871]

​@@stephenpmurphy59191%

[@zirconiumdiamond1416]

And 70+% of their existing female audience. I doubt that female Marvel fans want this either. They are creating a superhero show that is meant to appeal to non-superhero fans.

[@hleeannl6905]

​@zirconiumdiamond1416 We don't. I'm not even watching this show, I could care less. I went to see Deadpool and Wolverine 3 times in the theater, that is what I want in my shows...not identity politics. Just like the shit they have done with Star Wars. Give me Mandalorian season 1 and 2, and Andor....not season 3 girl boss show and I didn't even want to watch the Acolyte. Female fans prior to Disney+, want good writing, not feminism.

[@svetlanaandrasova6086]

Calling it gay up front was them preparing for the show flopping so they can say its because of homophobia

[@a_lost_one]

Yep. Just like getting to call the audience sexist when it's an invincible and perfect girl boss lead.

[@shanedenny2871]

At this point I don’t even care anymore, call me a phobe, just done with all these idiots trying to make us feel bad for the entertainment we choose.

[@Edi-edi-Ooo]

Agatha all alone with her cats

[@alien777]

It s a bunny. 😂😂😂

[@DlcEnergy]

You know its bad when an old wise judgemental cat on the internet is saying it.

[@alien777]

@@DlcEnergy you know peopld are just hater if they do not know there facts.

[@DlcEnergy]

@@alien777 Ohh, whaaa? She ain't really a cat lady? Ohh noo... Oooohhh noooo. Noooooo... Joke ruineeed?.. Ohh nooo...

[@alien777]

@@DlcEnergy ohhh whas? He s misoganistic. Ohhh nooo you. You misoganistic uhh ohhh.

[@solsticelakshmi4639]

As a straight middle aged woman who loves the original Star Wars and grew up reading the original marvel superhero comic books…I can’t even watch reviews on recent Marvel and Star franchise shite. 🤮

[@damedeviant1388]

There’s coffee at the Depressed Female OG Star Wars club 🙋🏻‍♀️

[@ruthohare9840]

@@damedeviant1388 If there are cookies too you can count me in

[@newtpondskipper]

Ah a woman of taste and refinement. 🙂

[@iriswaldenburger2315]

ME too, minus the comics because they weren’t available in GDR. But I absolutely loved Star Wars and even more so Star Trek and I didn’t even watch ANY of the new shaite. I did enjoy episodes 1-3 as well, they weren’t perfect but not as bad as they were out to be back then. I haven’t watched any of the Disney Wars movies nor the new woke trek

[@repapeti98]

How Disney/Marvel is still not bankrupt is beyond me. Good thing that writers protested for higher wages, stuff like this is definitely worth it.

[@parapoliticos52]

cause they have the theme parks behind them. When you have tens of billions of sales in tickets you can take few billion loss per year in the cinema/streaming sector. Until it starts hurting the theme parks and the share holders pull the plug to all the Dei projects.

[@bucketmanpalemin9603]

When you have a large fortune it's easy to make a small one.

[@iivin4233]

That is a good question. I recommend you do some research as to why that is. All that I've learned tells me that it is a very complicated answer. Part of the problem is, media companies' accounting methods are designed to obscure information.

[@mexmexican8619]

Every executive in the company is onboard with the agenda. They don’t care how much they lose as long as they can corrupt and groom the kids.

[@snakedogman]

Marvel is just a tiny part of Disney. They make their money with parks and stuff like ESPN. So Marvel stuff flopping is never gonna bankrupt Disney, just like RoP flopping isn't going to bankrupt Amazon.

[@MarsVee123]

Gay explosion? I’m guessing something involving DIDDY and baby oil

[@stinkypinkeee5085]

...and 700+ d*ldos...

[@samshongwe]

Tremendous reference.

[@SapperRJMorgan]

Baaahahaha. Don’t forget the lube.

[@skills7585]

Can't stop won't stop, take that take that

[@EvilDoresh]

I fear it'll be more of a gay whimper

[@Kosmokatten]

The people at Disney are like the spoiled rich bully kid who lived next door to me growing up. He could get any toy he wanted but instead of playing with them he just smashed them to pieces. It brought him the attention he never got from his rich non loving parents, still none of us other kids dared to question his actions because then he would beat the crap out of you. The people at Disney have all the money in the world and no talent, nothing to show for and they are not driven by creativity or the urge to tell good stories. The people at Disney just want to be the centre of attention and for everyone to admire them, not for the movies and shows they create but for who they are. Thats why they have to put themselves in everything they produce and they are willing to blow a billion dollar hole in the Disney bank vault along the way.

[@tkps]

Only Disney can stop them and only its shareholders can stop the egos currently running Disney from placing their politics above shareholder expectations. Sadly Disney shareholders had a recent opportunity to vote other people onto its board who care more about the business of making money more than appealing to the whims of the current egotistical CEO who's also a board member, a conflict of interest if there ever was one. Yet they chose not to act. Only continued losses can bring this sad period of Hollywood history to an end. Never thought cowards or idiots would run all US entertainment but the proof's in the pudding.

[@tylergoodman3560]

The reason they're distributing it is because they had a slot to fill, and it was the only thing available because Ironheart is still in the MCU vault. 🎉

[@othertalk3313]

I'm glad they have a vault to protect valuables such as Ironlady. I just hope it's very secure and locked tightly to make sure it never gets out... or stolen, I meant stolen... because it's so valuable, ya know... and very much in demand from... people... lots of people, I assume. #LockHerUp #ForSafetyReasonsOnlyOfCourse

[@Christo_Trismegistus]

I hope and pray Iron Heart never sees the light of day. Riri Williams was a terrible character in the Wakanda movie and that whole movie was terrible. Black Panther other than Killmonger was an overrated movie

[@RhyperiorRanger]

Ah yes marketing it as the gayest project they’ve made thus far because that worked SO well for “Thor: Love and Thunder” or that OTHER Disney project “The Acolyte”

[@nmr7203]

I mean how else are you going to market this

[@TheZodiacRipper]

Then we have that male gay rom com movie that the director specifically said wasnt for straight people and spoiler alert, it failed. Then he blamed straight people for it, like women wants to watch a rom com where they cant picture themselves as the lead actress getting her prince charming and like men would start to watch rom coms because of all the steamy man on man action.

[@davidransom4703]

EVERY BODY HAS ALREADY SAID THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN

[@thedrudo]

@@TheZodiacRipper The Bros trailer would play before every movie before its release. I'll never forget the reactions to the line about how straight people had a good run. It was either complete silence or you felt the energy of the audience just evaporate. It ultimately was hilarious to see that movie bomb so hard.

[@stephenpmurphy591]

Gay & Jewish... Now now it's not antisemitic rather its true.

[@alonsomunoz4096]

They couldn't possibly cancel this. Imagine the damage it would cause to the Echo- She-Hulk- Agatha crossover.

[@edvaedan9161]

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit

[@55Andy555]

Don't give them ideas.

[@alexzapf6422]

It’s the crossover we didn’t know we needed. lol.

[@55Andy555]

@@alexzapf6422 We still don't.

[@believeyoume-nj2mt]

If Captain Marvel fails to make a cameo, well, I'm out!!!

[@Señor-Donjusticia]

I CANNOT believe that’s the guy’s real voice. I keep thinking it’s one of the open bar members mocking him.

[@NateO123]

It’s seriously bizarre 😂

[@thecoach3577]

Yo same. I wasn’t watching the video, I was just listening, and I thought it was someone doing a parody the whole time.

[@thagomizer8485]

​@@thecoach3577same! I had to rewind it and watch. I thought they were reading something and mocking the writer.

[@theemeraldking3251]

I saw someone's else comments that just said Lumpy Space Princess XD

[@thagomizer8485]

@@theemeraldking3251 my only regret is that I have but one like to give.

[@joelclifton6312]

That guy at 4:00 sounds like Lumpy Space Princess. Seriously, I was working on something else while listening so I didn't see that it had cut to an interview, and I thought one of the guys on the panel was doing a voice.

[@Keverember]

That is a hilarious observation

[@hopegalaxy]

Any Adventure Time reference is a good one.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

Ohmawgawd.

[@Forests0fFantasy]

It was made for Theater kids....

[@kathyflorcruz552]

For frustrated ugly waymn who never became STARS!

[@tillyt4054]

As a middle-aged woman who does actually love Marvel , This show wasn’t written for me , I want to see Chris Helmsworth being all Alpha with his shirt off , or RDJ being clever and sexy at the same time whilst saving the world ….again , This was written for very camp gay men with a witchcraft fetish , Just my opinion , stop blaming us middle aged women for everything , We don’t all hoard cats and hate men, Hope that clarifies the situation , I’m off to watch The Expanse for the 4th time, I have a thing for Amos

[@piotrmajewski5978]

Expanse is great example of diversity done right. Which is irony I guess.

[@CompanionRohaa]

Thank you! I've been saying this. I'm a middle-aged woman with cats and I abhor this shite as much as any other sane thinking person. I'm getting a little tired of all my fav youtubers collectively badgering middle-aged women as if we're into this. I'm mad as hell they butchered Tolkien. The only value I see in madam web or the acolyte is to see Disparu and Little Platoon take em apart.

[@lorih6933]

Was coming here to say this too.

[@RiseOfAquarius]

Didn't you hate when they made Thor fat? What a waste. 🙃

[@Locke19901]

Oh man the expanse was great. Wish they gave the ending better treatment though.

[@Schnaubau]

13 year old me would have been very happy with a lesbian witch show with Audrey Plaza. But I guess I would have had different motives than the "writers"

[@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus]

How old was she 13 years ago?

[@Saltedroastedcaramel]

27

[@rufusmcgee4383]

Sound 1: "This show is gay" Sound 2: Millions of dollars circling the drain.

[@LeoJay]

Gay suicide bombers teased for the Acolyt- i mean Agatha finale?? 🔥🔥🔥

[@druidkhan6066]

My mother likes the MCU movies that were made in Phases 1-3, and hates the stuff in phases 4-5 like Loki and Dr Strange MOM, and she's 60 years old. My mother likes strong female characters provided they have a story and a personality to go with them, and they're cool.

[@writerpatrick]

The MCU essentially ended with Endgame. After that it was all anti-climactic.

[@stephenpmurphy591]

Uh oh, my comment lampooning the gay explosion was removed by U Tooobes fascist censors.

[@thehumancomet]

Only 8% of the population identifies as gay. But Marvel was like 'FECK THE 92%! Lets get the 8%, that'll really bring in ALLLLL the money! '😅

[@davehilling3944]

@@thehumancomet problem is even most of that 8% wouldn't be interested either.

[@andrewcz8871]

​@@writerpatrick correct.

[@MrMuxix]

I would have loved to take on a story about Agatha, make it a straight up Villain protagonist story, first few episodes are straight up phycological horror, then she finally just barley breaks free due to her own knowledge of magic. She comes out in a dead town with nobody, but the cult of her master is now after her, and she has to take out these worshipers one by one, slowly gaining what she had back.

[@tassothomas5186]

You already came up with a better show than they did

[@RenElknite]

can I just have $1M if they are just going to burn hundreds of it anyway.

[@bettysteve322716]

I would be happy with just $10,000.

[@rubbishopinions6468]

If you're gay enough.

[@olafgurke4699]

Nah, you don't work for them. They don't give money to their customers - even when deserving it. There was a case of a couple going to DisneyLand, and in the restaurant, made sure to ask for allergenes, and were given an all clear to a specific dish. The woman ate said dish and died to an allergic reaction 45min later. The man sued Disney for $50k, and instead of just paying those peanuts, Disney pointed to a clause in the Disney+ contract, stating that you have to settle everything with Disney outside of the courts.

[@RenlangRen]

Is anyone gay enough for modern day Disney?

[@GrapeTeaNews]

Who’s the target audience for Agatha show ⁉️ The Golden Girls of Marvel 😂

[@thedarkmomconsortium]

Hey! I'm grandma aged and I love the real Marvel! Don't overgeneralize!!!

[@UnbeltedSundew]

Golden Girls was straight fire, and there is no way it could get made today, it was way too funny for today's audeinces.

[@55Andy555]

Blackrock.

[@MorganHarris-e3s]

Target audience? Who says you need one of those? That kind of thinking comes from an era where budgets and fiscal responsibility mattered.

[@liamphibia]

Jac Schaeffer looks the type of person who'd be best suited to be an elementary school teacher rather than a screenwriter and producer.

[@55Andy555]

Won't anyone think of the children!

[@AscendantStoic]

Marvel: Did we tell you that it's the GAAAAAAYEST Marvel show ever 😅

[@EvilDoresh]

It's weird how Disney keeps claiming this for shows with a _female_ protagonist. Is "gay" less problematic than "lesbian" or something?

[@Shlogger]

Money laundering

[@chasehedges6775]

💯💯💯Gotta be the case

[@rustyspigot1876]

It's not high on my priority list but I'd love to see an independent audit of this travesty and a few others. Especially She-Hulk and ROP. And if the money-laundering angle is a conspiracy theory then it's only because THERE'S NO OTHER EVEN REMOTELY LOGICAL EXPLANATION.

[@Lemon_Inspector]

Where's the dirty money coming from?

[@LittleOzzyLand]

I've been saying this all along. It's all about money laundering, and it's amusing that people can't see it. The video commentary from many content creators criticizing these shows is misguided and misleading. I suspect many of them are aware of what's really happening but are deliberately leading people astray. It's a distraction tactic; they're using hate to divert attention. By framing it under the guise of "wokeism," they make it seem like it's about ideology rather than the reality of blatant money laundering.

[@jimc5754]

​@@Lemon_InspectorI don't think disney wants to divulge how much DEI money it's actually getting. Vanguard, black rock pouring in so much money.

[@Timbuktu407]

If half the money spent on 💩 like this in the last ten years had been spent on medical research, they probably would’ve cured cancer and diabetes by now. 🙄

[@ItsaKindOfMagic86]

The cure is to stop consuming sugary stuff

[@MorganHarris-e3s]

Or helped feed starving orphans in 3rd world countries.

[@trevorthornley8835]

That's a pretty good Gollum impression, drinker.

[@ErikDeMann]

Say hello to the new batch of lesbian women, same as the old batch, that we all soundly rejected from day one. - And don't let anyone tell you that Disney knows how to run a succesful business model, ever again.

[@yunusgokcen174]

This practice of failing upwards is a serious problem.

[@stellviahohenheim]

I was just wondering who keep hiring these writers and where did Disney find them?

[@kuna129]

:) Middle-age women go to movies to watch hot youngish man. Not other middle-aged women. Besides, women don't like other women as a rule.

[@defeqel6537]

explain Sex and the City

[@penmaster003]

@@defeqel6537Somebody explain Keeping up with the Kardashians.

[@johnnycanadiana1897]

There were "hunks" in sex and the city and lots of gay men watched it

[@atomicviking2497]

​@@defeqel6537 Middle aged women wanted excitement of having sex with hot guys. Women don't want to be Marvel heroes, and if they're not gay, they're not interested in lesbian romances. I remember the exact moment my mom stopped being interested in Sex and the City. It was when the lesbian stuff got shoehorned in. Bc of course it did. Hollywood can't help itself.

[@christophertaylor9100]

Yeah Aquaman was objectively lousy but it made a billion dollars on middle age women re-viewing

[@aterlycan]

When you make sex and the city but in marvel clothing, for no god damn reason

[@CoronaSunrise]

This is the thing. I am a middle aged white woman, who loves superhero movies and tv shows. This does NOT appeal to me.

[@SuperCosmicMutantSquid]

Same. This feels like it was made by people who are trying to write some weird ass reverse yaoi thing because "WOMEN LIKE YAOI, RIGHT?!?"

[@Sekir80]

Q: How gay you want your show to be? Marvel: YES! Q: Okay, how did that work out for Disney with Acolyte? Marvel: The POWER of... Drinker: F*CK OFF, SHOW!

[@ahabduennschitz7670]

cringe

[@Darkington]

Yes Yes!*

[@octaviovaladaoferreirinhad2689]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@ryanpotter9152]

Does Grace Randolph get paid to gush all over this series?

[@pistolbobcat420]

She's definitely a real person right? I agree with drinker that she honestly looks like a mannequin turned into a bot

[@chasehedges6775]

⁠@@pistolbobcat420💯

[@samjimenez]

Disgrace Randolph is a Disney shill! 😬

[@torukmakto2367]

Grace doesn't need to get paid for that, she masturbates to this type of content.

[@AppleInk]

*squirt

[@SithScorp]

Aubrey was walking with a cane because she had a very bad knee injury a few years ago. Anyone that has had one of those feels it from time to time and she probably uses it when she feels instability in the knee.

[@Christo_Trismegistus]

They should have just made a show about Aubrey Plaza and call it a day

[@SithScorp]

@@Christo_Trismegistus even she knows the show is awful. Look at her interviews. She is trolling the hell out of the show. It was a good paycheck for her.

[@andrewcz8871]

​@@SithScorp she definitely seems more self aware than most of her compatriots.

[@donalddavis7423]

​@@andrewcz8871they tried to cancel her for her "wood milk" milk commercial. She doesn't strike me as someone who cares about most opinions.

[@michipeka9973]

I might be wrong but Isn't it the same suspiciously "overjoyed" (for the lack of a better word) interviewer everytime. "It'S sUpEr DuPeR gHeYYY, aM I rIgHt!?" Basically when he does this routine, it's the kiss of death and the show is dead. Instant death.

[@svetlanaandrasova6086]

Yes. All interviews are like that. Its all the same and has no appeal.

[@crakhaed]

Almost makes you wonder if it's a psyop 😂 reverse psychology 🤨🤔

[@Binkley-rj6gf]

Aubrey sustained a knee injury during the WNBA All-Star event when she was playing some exhibition basketball game. I think first seen and publicly acknowledged when she was courtside for the WNBA All-Star game.

[@SourRobo8364]

What do Madame Web and Agatha Harkness have in common? Both are old women characters that don't have their own comic books.

[@Saltybuher]

Madame Web is Julia Carpenter. Not old.

[@othertalk3313]

@@Saltybuher Well, he did say "characters" so he's technically correct (which is the best kind of correct). Madame Web is old as hell, bruh. ☠ "She is usually depicted as a supporting character in the Spider-Man comic book series, where she appears as an elderly woman with myasthenia gravis, connected to a life support system resembling a spiderweb."

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

@@Saltybuher Read the comic.

[@AtariDad]

​@@SaltybuherIn the comics she's old. Stan Lee's wife played her in the 90's Spider-Man animated series.

[@EvilDoresh]

At least one of them had relatives who studied spiders.

[@richprosper8562]

Agatha: It was Shit All Along.

[@wibu_berkata]

Disney/Marvel still on "fuckin around and find out" phase

[@evildeadvicckky2225]

It's like a never ending nightmare after end game all we got was spidey 3 guardians 3 and wolverine Deadpool what a shame.

[@InciniumVGC]

The idea to make Marvel superheroes for middle aged wine moms should go down in history as one of the dumbest ideas ever.

[@MetalPause]

I really loved Kathryn Hahn on Park & Recreation, and enjoyed seeing her appearance on Wandavision. I was actually hopeful for this series. What a bummer. (I'm a 57 year old dude.)

[@vincentbeton]

"They just don't like our extra gay stuff even though we keep marketing it as its main selling point. What should we do?" "Maybe not enough Trans stuff in it?" "Sounds like as good of an idea as any. Lets try that next" That's how I imagine Disney operates when it comes to new Shows and prior criticism

[@bettysteve322716]

you know what they call a team of transgender super heros? X-men

[@jamesstewart8376]

They want men to watch women existing in our space, watch them being chameleons, asserting themselves constantly, and sitting around eating and talking about their feelings and other people forgetting that most of you are married. You see this everyday. That’s why we need our own space.

[@coltonross2227]

2 days sober. I hate it

[@Soyuz2578]

I'm surprised Agatha All Along didn't drive you back to the booze it's that bad

[@BDMZ404]

What about 3 days??? You can do it!!

[@JohnGalt916]

It gets easier brother. What worked for me. Dont listen to the sad boy talk of AA. and counting every day min hour. Just dont drink today. Tomorrow dont matter and yesterday is gone. Just dont drink today. And pick up a hobby to do with your kid. Me and my boy crush puzzles now. Havent drank in nearly 3 years

[@mentalmandolorian5723]

Gone full cold turkey?

[@nuclearmedicineman6270]

I've found that having a little drink helps me relax and takes my mind off being sober.

[@adrilongstreet3112]

I'm middle aged, and I used to enjoy watching Marvel, at least up through "Endgame". I watched them with my family. None of the current Marvel garbage is stuff I can watch with my children or my husband even.

[@MajerHawk]

Disney needs to readjust who they’re making these films and shows for unless they want to lose millions more.

[@dece870717]

After The Critical Drinker pointed out the whole voice thing with the guy and then mimicked it, I now can't unnotice/unhear it 😂.

[@Kadejones01]

I'm watching Lie to Me with Tim Roth at the moment. These red carpet interviews would be a double episode of micro expressions on their own 😂

[@szeltovivarsydroxan9944]

I started developing ovaries from watching one episode. I need to binge the Iron-Man trilogy to get my T-count back up.

[@parapoliticos52]

Why? All those in the series are post menopause.

[@NairAthul]

If IronMan is your idea of cinematic masculinity, we have other problems

[@AppleInk]

Lol ​@@parapoliticos52

[@PhantomP63]

Iron Man… chemically speaking, Fe Male

[@sociallyhostileelement3425]

​@@PhantomP63, I understood that reference.

[@Unknight]

Unrelated... proud that I saw you mentioned in Chris Williamson's conversation with Eric Weinstein a couple weeks ago.

[@himynameisfin]

I rarely watch these movies or shows anymore but enjoy watching your reviews. Nice to be able to laugh at the absurdity without supporting these nonsense shows. I guess this was agony all along.

[@hopegalaxy]

4:10 That was one of the *best* Gollum impressions I've ever heard! Bravo, Drinker.

[@voiceofreason452]

Middle aged woman here….this ain’t for us. This some awful stereotype of middle aged women. It’s insulting actually! 🙄

[@kellymommsen-ss2id]

Ditto... it is becoming insulting middle aged women are not watching this crap, not me anyway

[@initial_C]

Middle aged women seem to lose interest in Marvel as soon as Chris Hemsworth is offscreen

[@00Kuja00]

Fun fact: as a gay guy, the majority of us like masculine things and so called "toxic masculinity". You know, since we like men and how we act. TS is often considered a "sub group" within that many gay guys don't feel appealing.

[@Doubleohstevo]

This is one of your best episodes @drinker and everyone. I love how you are all in sync with laughter and agreement :p

[@marineboy1964]

This new show Agatha is gayer than lily savages wardrobe

[@Jamie_E_Pritchard]

Lily however was fucking awesome

[@cdh0879]

I knew this wasn't for me when I first heard about the show before they even shot it. The trailer definitely confirmed that. My daughter is 26 and she was telling me Thursday or Friday that she was going to check it out. I told her good luck with that cause it's not something I would even consider watching. Yesterday when I asked her if she liked it she said she got about 15 minutes into the show and stopped and hasn't bothered to try to finish.

[@thatoneguychad420]

😂😂 nice

[@jackreynolds2144]

It’s hilarious how this aged 😂

[@zazoreal5536]

Back to my happy place...Ironman! xD That was so good. I often have to go watching something good too.

[@bryantvargas5623]

The only hope is that this was greenlit before the clear collapse of Hollywood’s girlboss era. It feels inevitable that they’ll have to stop now. The wheels have finally come off. The culture has shifted. Over the next few years we’ll find out if they’re smart enough to catch on.

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

I love the taste of candles in the morning. Then I wake up and re-join reality.

[@scottbullock3045]

66 million years since the last big rock smacked this planet. Isn't it time for the next one yet, damn! 😞😮

[@bluecollarloser6654]

1:27 When mauler says " my brain left my body" I lost it lol Legend

[@Xayl42]

How Candles Taste? The things made out of wax? Like...crayons? Jeah checks out

[@EvilDoresh]

Maybe their munching one one of those _older_ candles that were made from animal fat...

[@ereini0n]

At this point I'm not going near anything that's promoted as gay - it's just fetishism and fangirling, and while that has its place, that place is on AO3, not Disney+ or MCU

[@jgreene81]

Like I once heard a chef say when I first worked in a kitchen, "It doesn't matter if you like the dish. You're not the one paying for it. Now cook the food the way the guest wants it and don't screw it up."

[@invariablybefuddled4415]

Okay. Please stop. I'm a 38 yr old woman and grew up with comics. I have NO interest in a bunch of homosexual witches. I don't care if someone is gay. Whatever. I do care when they say every person who is different is gay. It's weird. The whole thing is weird. So please stop saying this is geared towards white women. It's just as insulting as Disney.

[@LittlePhizDorrit]

facts

[@hamdinger7145]

I love this Baby Face

[@jasonfischer8946]

I didn't know that Rich Evans was on this episode!

[@victorochoa3662]

Wat

[@stackels97]

As a middle-aged feeeemale nerd who used to love Disney and Trek with a passion and enjoyed a fair amount of the Endgame Saga, nothing post Endgame has been appealing, well written, or interesting. This post-2018 Disney era of crap isn't for any demographic in particular. It's for people who accept the premise of all 'modern' marketing and don't engage their brains while watching anything.

[@angfour9684]

I am a middle-aged woman with an interest in superhero movies. Agatha still does not appeal to me. I want to watch shirtless hot dudes kicking ass.

[@EvilDoresh]

It's amazing how big studios apparently forgot one of the biggest guarantees of success for 80's cinema

[@Manatouille]

5:54 Az’s impression of that Variety’s reporter is peak entertainment 😂😂😂😂😂

[@davidjuby7392]

my mother once told me that " when a man truly wants to marry a woman he wants to marry her now, if he is delaying he does not want to marry her." If bobbie boy really wanted to make a course correction he would make it immediately not explain how it will take years to start to see the change. iger is doing his same old delay and just keep doing more of the same. disney has no intention of ever changing.

[@napoleonfeanor]

There is inertia in every bigger organisation. I think Iger is kinda pressured to change and will only make every second movie woke now.

[@davidjuby7392]

@@napoleonfeanor only time will tell

[@Ira_Ross]

Maybe in a few years after we've moved on so much we don't even follow news of their demise anymore, we'll notice three projects in a row that are awesome and we never would've expected right now.

[@danielmedela8725]

Today, I saw my hometown covered in ads for both Agatha All Along and Transformers One. Considering going to watch Transformers a third time.

[@MistrBeat]

Great Panel. AZ was on fire!

[@jesnemo2677]

I’ve recently realized that I am that middle aged single woman market, 39, and while I lost interest in superhero stuff prior to Disney marvel decline (actually when the comics first started being adapted I was done,) I’m still in that sort of “nerd” community, running a game and hobby store, and I HATE everything about this show. Seems they’re trying to catch what they had with Wandavision (which was meh) and recreate it by using the Things even more as if manifesting that lightning in a bottle but instead creating a massive steaming turd with wardrobe changes.

[@malificajones7674]

Aubrey Plaza is 40, and she's supposedly the hot one. lmao.

[@Grubnar]

Have you seen the cast? She *IS* the hot one!

[@toryquinton2677]

Plaza was great as April Ludgate. Plaze is terrible when every role she has ever played, including presenting awards is just a rehash of April Ludgate. What was cute at 20 is embarrasing at 40. But modern writers are part of modern culture which believes growing up is a myth and that immaturity is a perpetual virtue.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Ludgate is that cute girl that would rock your world, but you would never let her know your home address.

[@generalgk]

She is hot

[@JohnnyHalifax777]

Don't you dare go after Aubrey Plaza, she's off limits.

[@rufusblue8044]

Somebody should do a pro-straight rocky horror picture show remake. Give em a little taste of their own medicine

[@shockwaverider869]

Never could make it through it with the tranny stuff, is there anything left without it?

[@crakhaed]

It would be classified as a hate crime 😂

[@rufusblue8044]

@BumfluffAddlepate you are correct. But it ain't like people are watching what is being made. It really does seem like a lot of what's being made is out of spite. I can't think of many movies made today they doesn't have undertones of this isn't made for you white boy unless it outright says it ain't for me

[@bigwhopper6501]

Who the fuck even pitched a show a bout franklin Richards nanny, out of all the characters they own 😂

[@nkosiburke6502]

so............is it failing now?

[@beefgoat80]

I forgot Aubrey Plaza existed. It was nice.

[@AtariDad]

What's wrong with Aubrey Plaza? She's a good actress, and she's a lot less fake than most actors in Hollywood.

[@Jaymastia]

@@AtariDad she is not even fake. she is real on and offscreen. she is the kinda actress that fails at pretence

[@calebcold3]

I’m sure She’s absolutely devastated that you forgot about her.

[@Artofficial1986]

No matter how gay they try to make a movie or show they still can't top the pure gayness of a movie about two cowboys who get gay on a mountain.

[@Jamie_E_Pritchard]

Yet that film did really well... It's almost as if quality of writing and good characterisation are the most import things.

[@alexandriajohnson6656]

As a middle aged female, Im tired of Hollyweird sterotyping. My fav movie choices: Deadpool, Iron Man type superheroes, John Wick, Mission Impossible type action films with strong male leads !

[@svetlanaandrasova6086]

Did you notice how as soon as a movie is for women they add cats or musical numbers??

[@newtpondskipper]

​@svetlanaandrasova6086 or a guy she used to like but never got to be with from her hometown. She visits family during the holidays just after a devastating breakup and she happens to run into him. I don't remember the channel but my wife's sister plays these shows like they are paying her to watch them. How many times can you rehash that formula! My wife and I may disagree on many of our movie/show interests but thankfully we agree on not liking them.

[@luniz4209]

It's pretty clearly competing with shows like Sabrina, Wednesday, etc. I guess they don't think the male audience is worth pursuing.

[@Darkurge666]

It seems like the outcome of the writer's strike is that they can now do anything and still be hired.

[@dannyd807]

And people thought Agents of Shield was bad

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Agents of shield was fantastic compared to this shit. Get off the crack 😂😂

[@writerpatrick]

AoS was pretty much standard for TV.

[@LeoJay]

I honestly enjoyed it lmao it was TV alright.

[@TheRealJabbergeist]

They did? I don't remember anyone saying that at all. Weird choice for a comparison, my man.

[@johnlewis3358]

I think the interviewer on the "Purple carpet" was poaching for voice work when they decide to make Yoda really camp.

[@dercooney]

we already tried Bros, it didn't go well