"where does design begin?" well first youll want to make sure that the manifold is right next to the oil filter, being sure to block the filter as much as possible in order to make oil changes as difficult as possible
@nitetrane986 жыл бұрын
Number 1 and 3 tubes will need to be beaten nearly closed to clear steering box.
@brianwenzel87915 жыл бұрын
Exactly.!! the engineers that design vehicles have absolutely know idea what it takes to fix / work on them.. Cars should be designed by Real mechanics. which would help make repairs easier / cheaper.. the newer the vehicle is, the more over engineered it is.. which makes costs go up with repairs.. way more people need to know about this.
@7151015 жыл бұрын
Don't forget close enough to the plug wires to burn them out frequently
@thechosenoneilluminati43805 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to wrap the headers around the starter
@Piunti_3025 жыл бұрын
Yessss! I'm a tire and oil tech and I hate this, it mostly seems to be GMC that jus loves putting the oil filter next to or behind the fucking manifold!
@guitarplaya475609 жыл бұрын
These Engineering videos provided by Drive are incredible. Very informing. While they are long, they pack a lot of info at an easy to understand level. Keep up the great work!
@NN-wd2vi9 жыл бұрын
0:07 The wife seems to disagree...
@jebwatson8 жыл бұрын
I think the warranty is usually voided after you start blowing...
@savagegod21068 жыл бұрын
Phil Jones
@michaellee12166 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@Retrosloth06 жыл бұрын
😂
@megaprimegamer11845 жыл бұрын
@pete smyth you do realize this is not really any engineering conference but a random video on the net, don't you?
@snaaail9 жыл бұрын
Half an hour long? That was exhausting
@davidsinclair-black74949 жыл бұрын
That's p-unny
@Prizz4199 жыл бұрын
Booooo
@flyjum9 жыл бұрын
+AJHedges I thought it flowed pretty well actually
@RobertoDTK9 жыл бұрын
+AJHedges i'm sorry but for me those 30min passed like 5 minutes if you are really interesed
@snaaail9 жыл бұрын
It was a joke...
@CurtHousen9 жыл бұрын
Very informative for someone like me who never really thought about intricate exhaust design was.
@andrewpochettino85068 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. As the exhaust and intake designer for Iowa State’s Formula SAE team, I started with zero knowledge of the two systems and had to figure out how they worked with the engine on my own. Because we work with a single cylinder 4-stroke engine, I didn’t have to design a manifold, but I still had to learn a lot. One of the problems I had was figuring out where to start and you put the aspects of the exhaust in a logical order. After watching your video, I am able to connect these components together and have a better understanding of the exhaust system. For an introductory video, this is well done. Thank you!
@fvl5489 жыл бұрын
This video was well worth the time! Normally I shy away from +15min video's but this one is very interesting if you're into exhaust systems and how they work. I learned that there are more dynamic aspects than static. Thank you very much to the guys at /Drive for making this and the guys at Magnaflow for explaining
@Dgannt9 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to listen to professionals. It's obvious he knows his areas of work and could explain different parts very easily. Thanks for the lesson.
@kellyokamoto16048 жыл бұрын
Wow-after over 45 yrs wrenching on engines I was pleasantly surprised by the knowledge put forth in this vid. Now, my question is do ALL header mfgs put as much in-depth engineering into their header builds as MagnaFlow or are they just slapping pipe together and moving product???
@omfgwtfbbq909 жыл бұрын
Very good video. But he didn't cover catalytic converters. How those affect the flow and the sound, and the different kinds of catalytic converters. 2 into 1 or 2 into 2 or metallic or ceramic and how many cells... and how all these things affect the sound and the flow...
@JonnyD3ath9 жыл бұрын
Decat all the way😄
@omfgwtfbbq909 жыл бұрын
JonnyD3ath not possible due to emissions
@JonnyD3ath9 жыл бұрын
+omfgwtfbbq90 "not possible" 😏😜
@danneu89 жыл бұрын
+omfgwtfbbq90 If you can dream it, you can do it.
@FrostyCoug9 жыл бұрын
+omfgwtfbbq90 pff, cuz he knows we don't run that shit on our cars...
@JD-lh2ve9 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, except it missing one piece, and that's turbos and turbo manifold design. I am sure the exhaust side of a turbo would have an impact on all of this, as well as waste gate routing. Would love to see another spin off of this that covers that side of the engineering.
@charlespaul67259 жыл бұрын
+JD Perham Magnaflow doesnt make turbo manifold
@JD-lh2ve9 жыл бұрын
iStanceDaily Hub right, that doesn't meant they can't talk about the science behind it
@timruddell1259 жыл бұрын
+JD Perham If they don't make turbo manifolds, he'd be talking about an area in which they really don't have a right to talk about, so he could spread mis-information and degrade the reputation of the company. A wise choice by him not to talk about it, but it is a shame turbo's were left out of the video.
@JD-lh2ve9 жыл бұрын
This is true and a good point, but they do make cat backs for turbo based cars so hopefully they do have some engineering experience with them, which would have been nice to be shared here. Oh well maybe another video from another company some time then
@kleetus929 жыл бұрын
+Rich Smit Except that locomotive engines are 2 stroke, and diesel... that completely blows (no pun intended) this discussion out of the water. The EMD/GM 2 stroke needs that blower to force the exhaust gas out of the cylinder, without it, it won't run. The 567/645/710 engines have ports like a chainsaw or weedeater motor on the low end of the cylinder bore. When the piston is far enough down, it uncovers those ports and fresh air from the blower or hybrid turbo charger forces the air into the cylinder, also at the same time the 4 exhaust valves open up and let the combusted fuel air mix out, while the fresh air from the blower fills in from the bottom. Once the piston moves up and closes the port off, the power cycle starts again, and fuel is injected when the appropriate timing dictates. I said hybrid turbo because the turbos on the EMD locomotives are actually gear driven at low speeds, and once the engine output is high enough, the exhaust turbine will pick up the compressor load, and the overrunning clutch allows the turbo to spin faster than the gear drive could spin it. That's why most of the 645/710 engines have that yang yang yang yang sound at an idle... that's the turbo gear drive you're hearing.
@ForkTheSpoonWrecker9 жыл бұрын
This guy has been the best one yet, his explanations are very clear and precise. Thanks!
@sprintr64418 жыл бұрын
One of the best presentations I've watched....Nicely done!
@andreaandchris38686 жыл бұрын
Very well spoken. I could listen to you speak for hours. It's quick and precise.
@markiplierSINGSbadly9 жыл бұрын
what the heck kind of intro was that? XD
@owanlazic99809 жыл бұрын
ikr lol
@117johnpar9 жыл бұрын
+markiplierSINGSb.a.d.l.y. A bare bones, Formal intro. I wish they would do a sexual innuendo intro to spice up the beginning. Missed opportunity.
@Ktmzqw9 жыл бұрын
+markiplierSINGSb.a.d.l.y. Coloquial terms for the 4 stroke cycle: intake, compression, power, exhaust.
@omfgwtfbbq909 жыл бұрын
+markiplierSINGSb.a.d.l.y. Actually a very witty and intelligent intro ;)
@duviday9 жыл бұрын
+markiplierSINGSb.a.d.l.y. a good one. why, what was wrong with it?
@heraldotello16398 жыл бұрын
I took fluid mechanics last semester and what this guy says makes perfect sense it's nice to see the engineering side of automotive though this does also apply to other industry as well. Just nice to see it for automotive. My teacher told me above anything else make sure you remember about Reynolds number when it comes to fluid mechanics.
@TargaWheels7 жыл бұрын
That '69 Camaro was very distracting. I only heard half of what he said.
@johnbeer52426 жыл бұрын
TargaWheels haaha😂 si si yes
@alwaysopen79706 жыл бұрын
I kept thinking of my old one I sold in the late 80s. I loved that car.
@dapsapsrp6 жыл бұрын
I had a difficult time taking my eyes off of it.
@toka1006 жыл бұрын
Yah that’s mine. 😝
@TH3C0015 жыл бұрын
Bro! SAME!
@enriquezambrano15 жыл бұрын
Hello, I own a 2001 Kia spectra, I went to the junkyard to purchase one single resonator, instead I took two home, I wanted to change the sound inside my car, and it did, made the car sound much better inside, plus increased the horse power and the tork tremendously. I love it. Now I am planning to do the same with my BMW. Thank you for the video, I really enjoyed...EZ.
@rm-photography32898 жыл бұрын
"blowing is important too" tell that to my girl friend :,(
@lilpoindexter8 жыл бұрын
You aint even married yet and already putting up with this BS?
@rm-photography32898 жыл бұрын
lilpoindexter ikr the horror of this generation lol
@PoliticalThrowback8 жыл бұрын
Rusty Ranger bruh I can't get mine off of me.
@bootyman2347 жыл бұрын
+ Speed of darkness. Some of us are more fortunate than others lol
@rm-photography32897 жыл бұрын
Speed of Darkness bro super glue is not a good lubricant!!!!
@tomslater51989 жыл бұрын
Holy hell. This was a fantastic video. Presenter seriously knows his business and how to break it down barney style for a youtube video. Love it.
@sp4nrs8 жыл бұрын
HOW COULD HE NOT MENTION BACK PRESSURE MYTHS??????????
@geoffpeters44748 жыл бұрын
everything you need to know about the back pressure myth is there you just have to not be an idiot and think a little bit, he explained all about tube diameter and exhaust velocity, airflow, and exhaust pulses helping extraction. He just didn't outright say it maybe to help weed out the retards who can fuck off.
@nos10001008 жыл бұрын
by what i got was. If the tube is too big at the header its bad but mainly if the tube size isnt consistent all the way down the system. its worse
@2ShoesPhoto6 жыл бұрын
He mentioned the science about back pressure when he spoke about the restriction in the header causing an increase in peak torque vs average torque. That's where the back pressure comes in. Now, if you want overall torque, open that exhaust up and let it flow.
@codyparker6795 жыл бұрын
Back pressure isnt that important but you need about a minimum of 1ft of pipe and good tuning to not warp valves. Dealing with race cars bassically all I've noticed. Friend ran open header on his 302 f15p for 4 years towing and daily use and never had an issue but was very well tuned and he had a 3in to 2in on the collector to retain alittle back pressure. Loud as hell though but loved it
@Thedirtylittlesecret4 жыл бұрын
Cfm to tube size.
@superwout7 жыл бұрын
it's a Friday afternoon, the sun is coming out ... and one second in you gave me the best laugh in days, I salute you
@elhadjiamadoujohnson41668 жыл бұрын
This man knows his topic, unlike most of the big mouth here!!! I tip my hat to him!!!
@johnbeer52426 жыл бұрын
Elhadji Amadou Johnson u must have magnaflow exhaust😂
@tripeee589 жыл бұрын
You had me at Hello! This guy is AWESOME! I was only at 8:57 in and was already enthralled. I can't remember the last time I've been so excited about Science, Physics, Thermodynamics and Gas flow! This is geek heaven!
@edog69009 жыл бұрын
This guy clearly knows what he's doing, but several times he indicated that there was both a pressure AND velocity drop at certain points. Bro, do you even Bernoulli?? I.e. 20:15
@DrewLSsix9 жыл бұрын
Do you? Pressure and velocity will both drop at some point.
+eric kemp The Bernoulli equation applies at constant mass flow. An engine varying its angular velocity does not have constant mass flow, so both pressure and velocity can drop simultaneously.
@edog69009 жыл бұрын
+Paul Optional Siegfried That's a good point, but not entirely relevant to the situation in question. Richard states, "...as long as the drop in pressure does not impede upon the CFM airflow..." What I'm saying is that a drop in pressure would increase airflow. What he meant to say was, "...as long as the drop in VELOCITY does not impede upon the CFM airflow..."
@rcduck20109 жыл бұрын
+eric kemp I think what he is trying to get at is that in a full system a drop in one of the two would result in an increased resistance to flow through the system hence dropping the other. I may be wrong as Im only just getting an understanding of this side of things but that was how I understood it
@mr593016 жыл бұрын
Impressive. This guy has single-handedly sold me on Magnaflow for my next exhaust system. Imagine loving your work as much as he does his.
@yadidimeanmaine9 жыл бұрын
Anyone notice he drew a Flowmaster delta for his reflection example? He knows his competition.
@prayanjaltomar7524 жыл бұрын
Respect to this guy who shares with us his knowledge and experience in just half an hour video ❤️🙏.Great work Sir
@Doggepp9 жыл бұрын
Im loving these videos. I love having stuff explained to me by very knowledgeable people. Too bad he didnt touch on turbo exhaust systems. Because the downpipe/header part is not the same there. I understand the basics, but would like to have further knowledge about it. And everywhere you go on the internet it says different.
@SlikLizrd3 жыл бұрын
Turbo Exhaust is for a whole nother program/video. The most important takeaway from this video is that a Flowmaster chambered muffler will not flow as much air as a straight pipe --- but a perforated glasspack can and WILL flow as much (or more) air than a straight piece of pipe.
@M13asan9 жыл бұрын
as a car young car lover and mechanical engineer, these ENGINEERED videos have been great. keep them up Ill still keep revving my 04 wrx sti
@FIVEOHBAIT8 жыл бұрын
So... straight pipe it is.
@MrLoony12128 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@theroadahead4157 жыл бұрын
Jarrod Swick you saved me 30 minutes
@andrewbartleman91697 жыл бұрын
Apparently straight pipe has less flow than a MagnaFlow muffler because of friction lol
@esh926 жыл бұрын
nope. 21:02
@Tuffenough4u6 жыл бұрын
Actually it's still true, only dictated by length. If the pipe was long, this would be an issue. The length of the pipe needs to be more or less tuned to the CFM flow volume and speed. Temperature drop is a factor to.
@luckyrocks19 жыл бұрын
Thank you Richard! Very informative information and helped me a great deal as I have been trying to decide between the different muffler systems on the market (Chambered vs Straight through). I do not have an automotive background but do understand a little about airflow, duct sizing and cfm, along with how they may or may not affect sound issues, from my HVAC background. I do also enjoy modifying my truck with accessories and am more concerned with performance than sound in the exhaust system...
@2stroketurbo9 жыл бұрын
that was very informative
@jaredgarner73803 жыл бұрын
This was a really fantastic explanation of most of an exhaust system. Will definetley be reffering to it as I plan on designing my own system. Only details that i know of that are missing are cats, and the use of an exhaust box to essentially simulate the exhaust going to atmosphere at any point you desire without having to actually have an exit there, allowing for an ideal tuned length, and it makes anything done after said box less of a concern for tuning as long as optimal flow rate is still achieved
@proto358 жыл бұрын
Im surprised back pressure nonsense wasn't discussed here. Considering tons of people live by that shit for some reason.
@psychotogen18 жыл бұрын
Just briefly he said if the diameter was too large it creates a restriction.
@nos10001008 жыл бұрын
at the header
@GirthQuake478 жыл бұрын
proto35 it was discussed the whole time hahaha
@andrewbartleman91697 жыл бұрын
proto35 people think of restrictions when in fact it is velocity you want.
@Jakalwarrior6 жыл бұрын
Maybe they think back pressure adds torque because it reduces losses from cam overlap. Course the same back pressure cancels out the top end power the over lap was put in to achieve in the first place.
@deankay44342 жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed! You ask 1,000 techs, fabricators and race car engine builders, you will get 1,000 different answers with some commonalities. With covering all the possibilities of various power adders from turbos, centrifugal belt driven blowers, etc., this video will last four hours and still generate thousands of more comments. This topic, as many when it comes to complex fuel driven engines can make your eyes bleed. As a self trained mechanic in the late 60’s, then time in a two man shop behind the guys house, I was technically an apprentice. No shop in high school. They didn’t have one and it was new but rural. I fell into jobs I never saw coming, but by the grace of god, they found me at the right time. All I have to comment on, is the very nice straight forward job that Richard Waitas did in this video for Magaflow! It was well thought out, produced properly, since attention spans are short he didn’t go to long each segment. You have to admit, he covered a bucket load of information, right? Did he cover everything under the sun, no! I don’t blame him nor hold it against him. He did an excellent job. As a guy who traveled to 7 states and held 4hr technical service seminars, 4 nights a week, he was great. I never taught the subject the same way each time as I forgot something or answered questions from techs, shop owners and tech school instructors, made each cession different while trying to rely upon the PPT to remind me what to cover! Many times afterwards, I ask myself, why did I forget this or that! Give me a break! Maybe the next video goes into a little. We had cross-training for a manufacturer and had engineers talk for 1.5hrs and not make any sense or do a very good job on their “Subject Matter Expertise.” When a good one talked, it was great as they allowed a Q&A section. I give Richard an A+! Thanks guys. Great job! DK, Omaha. ASE Master Tech since 1978, retired.
@BrandonKent1369 жыл бұрын
So how much performance is compromised with the catalytic converters?
@brussell6395 жыл бұрын
They're getting much better, and smaller (not internal diameter).
@SlikLizrd3 жыл бұрын
That depends on the type of Catalytic converter. Early General Motors and Toyota cats were the pan-type, which had the active ingredients in a semi-pellet form, and they were very restrictive, compared to the modern "Honeycomb" design, which will flow enough air to accomodate about 350 HP PER BANK without loss of exhaust flow . Today, we have 700 HP cars with full cats in place -- on the street, and LEGAL in ALL 50 states. Novices and morons get in line to eliminate their cats -- while they scorn the folks that want to keep our air and water clean. I've run a lot of illegal shit over the years, but nothing that could compromise our air quality.
@BrandonKent1363 жыл бұрын
Chuck Hallowell because racecar
@SlikLizrd3 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonKent136 WTF is wrong with you!?? Did you miss your nap !??
@Bobby-ic2zd2 жыл бұрын
/ENGINEERED was such an amazing series, I wish they kept it going.
@JackTruitt9 жыл бұрын
dang mike. that intro
@jimmbbo6 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT presentation of just about everything you need to know about exhaust systems
@bartvanriel67679 жыл бұрын
I'm exhausted
@ItumelengS9 жыл бұрын
Now, thats an intro that has been orchestrated beautifully. Thank you sir
@FGKaye8 жыл бұрын
You forgot to discuss catalytic converters...
@cecet55345 жыл бұрын
F.G. Kaye Don’t use cat.
@Meatwad.Baggins4 жыл бұрын
Cut them off. Sell it
@crsp766919 жыл бұрын
I got the exhaust in a box from magna flow on my ls1 68 firebird. I love the sound, performance and fitnfinish! All my friends are starting to switch to magna flow mufflers because the hate the droning at freeway speed. Magnaflow has no drone it makes driving the car very comfortable, love it!!
@bvsandman8 жыл бұрын
Sooo, straight pipe it is!
@johnbeer52426 жыл бұрын
ChrisHallett83 or u u can turn the headers upwards and have them come out through the hood and make some holes on it😀
@trigun121216 жыл бұрын
Omg, I'm taking a thermal class for the energy career field. And you have expanded my mind. Great job, you are amazing. Usually engineers make me angry but, your way of explaining was perfect for my brain waves. BROVO!
@davidstuck28667 жыл бұрын
you FORGOT to come back to that marvelous horsepower eater, the catalytic converter.
@RashoYT6 жыл бұрын
YES!! That's what I wanted to hear the MOST!
@cecet55345 жыл бұрын
David Stuck don’t use
@BensCoffeeRants5 жыл бұрын
They're pretty efficient these days. I mean sports cars come with them and they're making more power than ever out of smaller displacement engines.
@pinkfiffty30944 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Picture of the video showed catyletic converters and didnt even talk about them...dumb. maybe they had to remove that part so they dont get sued??
@Maverick091714 жыл бұрын
Cats don’t give up shit. It’s like 2% on 1000hp engine. On stuff less than that, its negligible
@yourhandlehere16 жыл бұрын
I have a 68 Corolla that I put a 4-1 header on years ago. I later wanted dual exhaust but didn't want to "fake" it by just having a y-pipe. I cut the collector off the header and made two 2-1 headers out of it. Firing order is 1-3-4-2 so I had 1 and 4 together and 2 and 3 together and a couple of big quiet mufflers. Sounded lumpy if you heard just one side but if you were behind the car it sounded like the normal smooth exhaust. Ran fantastic. The engine really liked it. I've gone back to stock everything as it turns 50 this year and I want it as factory as I can get it (except for brakes and wheels, it came with drums and 12 inch wheels, I swapped em for discs and 13's from a '70 model) but the headers are still hanging on the wall.
@leibel14988 жыл бұрын
That compressed air is hot, so speed of sound is way faster.
@ΝίκοςΑρώνης-ξ5φ6 жыл бұрын
Leibel 500 to 600 m/s depends the temperature
@MrS222226 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the temperature, the speed of sound is slower than exhaust gas in Siberian gulag, comrade. 306 m/s at -40C, 411m/s at 300F lol
@StephenGillie5 жыл бұрын
Playing a trombone is easy - you go "phbbt" and the horn turns that into beautiful music. Just like the exhaust does with the engine's timbre. Thanks for making this video.
@mojothejester98898 жыл бұрын
Very informative :-)
@ryanklett52779 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of exhaust systems that I have ever seen!
@bradnaylor8 жыл бұрын
Awww, he didn't say anything about resonators... But, pretty informative
@cecet55345 жыл бұрын
Brad Nay don’t use
@vader540is9 жыл бұрын
IMHO this has been the best engineered video yet!
@Foxontherun29 жыл бұрын
OMG just make a straight pipe that comes out of the hood , job done
@jgizzy9 жыл бұрын
+Foxontherun2 You didn't watch the video, did you.
@crashandburnbirner9 жыл бұрын
puts a dip in and cracks beer...
@cdstruckandoutdoor72199 жыл бұрын
Yeah I did,so.
@puffy12387 жыл бұрын
Jesus
@peterjones69456 жыл бұрын
Never had a v-8 ;o)
@melsilva91585 жыл бұрын
I have watched a couple of videos hosted by Richard Waitas and I've enjoyed listening to his analysis and design points.
@Bruceillest1016 жыл бұрын
@ 22:52 He's talking about the "No Slip boundary condition" When the fluid (or in this case air) is flowing over or in a boundary. A tiny layer of air will be created on the boundary its self, which will have a velocity of zero. But this guy exaggerates the size of the layer and the over all net affect it will have on the flow.The arrows he draws are very misleading. The exhaust Will NOT FLOW towards the walls of the pipe. They will continue to flow smoothly unless the walls of the pipe have a ton of carbon build up. As for the inside of the perforated muffler, the pipe will still experience the no slip boundary condition but with the added benefit of being at a lower sound level.
@achillezx14r453 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@BadDadio6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. The exhaust system was broken down into smaller components and the design challenges were clearly and succinctly explained.
@brwi19 жыл бұрын
what if i want my exhaust to sound like the beginning of "hot for teacher"?
@kevlar_879 жыл бұрын
Nice introduction to exhaust design. It's more complex than many people realize. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@nd3188658 жыл бұрын
I'm under the impression 180 degree crank would be seen as "flat plane" while "180 degree headers" bring together exhaust events which occur every 360 degrees of "crankshaft" travel. That is: 8 firing cylinder events involve 720 degrees of crankshaft rotation... Where am I wrong?
@IpodsNightmare8 жыл бұрын
+James Tennier That is correct. A four stroke engine takes 720 degrees of rotation per fire in a cylinder. Power stroke, then exhaust stroke.
@davidmartin70996 жыл бұрын
720’ / 8 cylinders = 90 / cylBut the banks are tilted, so the bank angle comes into play too. A V8 will usually be 90’ between banks, with pistons sharing 4 crank bearing points, so you have two 4-cyl banks with one lagging the other by 90 degrees. Now you can spac the four cranks by 90 degrees, pick your 180 degree pairings, assign a firing order, design your cams, and finally run your header tubes for optimal pairings.
@gordowg1wg1456 жыл бұрын
Bit lateresponding, but close - exhaust pulses 180 degrees apart are grouped together - the other four are 90 degrees to the first. In practice, that usually means the outer two on one band and the inner two on the other, eg traditional SBC has a firing order of 18436572 with the left (?) bank being odd and the right even so one group will be 1, 7, 4 and 6 and the other group would be 3, 5, 2 and 8. You can check that and other engines on the interweb, as there are multiple sources.
@ThePaulv126 жыл бұрын
Well I don't believe scavenging works on the street as header manufacturers would lead you to believe. The reasons are complex but it's something like this, cross plane cranks benefit from scavenging but it occurs in such a narrow band as to be pointless chasing it on a motor that has such a broad spread of power as a street engine. There are too many variables for it to work properly. There is a way however that MAY (no promises) work and that is anti reversion cones in each of the primary tubes. There are some things that are known to work generally for specific motors. For example the 440 Mopar is known to benefit from 2" primary tube headers going into 3 1/2' collectors. Indeed it seems to be the case but that is from a factory sponsored drag racing data collection and the info gained is so narrow nothing is relevant outside that particular motor with iron heads and larger valves as specified by the factory manual for hot rodding the B/RB. I am sure there are other knowns for other motors, but for the home hot rodder unless you have a dyno, about 1000 hrs, $150k, 49 different combos of header primary tube length, intake type, head work valve size, port size, camshaft and on and on and on into infinity then you're just guessing. Headers are about reducing pumping losses and stopping reversion. Some do it better than others, but the main cylinder filling effect is the inertia of gas flow initiated by camshaft lead and lag (AKA overlap). How well that flow can be kept moving, post exhaust, may give an added boost but I doubt all cylinders are going to benefit equally due to intake manifolding! The whole header thing is designed to even it all out as much as possible by having the leaner cylinders running at the correct A/F ratio and the richer ones running too rich rather than the richer cylinders running the correct A/F ration and the leaner ones being a bit too lean but within specs for longevity. The whole thing is a balancing act and reducing exhaust pumping losses will yield a power increase since the the volumetric efficience of the engine has changed. Port fuel injection aids this since the intake runners are intentionally tuned. So that's my take on it. Header manufacturers say it's science, I disagree, so I guess they're right and I'm wrong because they have more money than me implying I have shit for brains. As I mentioned they're right.
@neoanderson79 жыл бұрын
Loving these engineered episodes. Truly amazing how archaic ICE is. Imagine all these resources and know how eliminated when you deal with electric vehicles. Don't get me wrong, ICE is still king when you're racing around a track (for now that is), but things do get a lot easier when you go electric. Keep these episodes coming!
@peterjones69456 жыл бұрын
When battery technology gets better and energy recovery increases range electric vehicles will be more prevalent. In fact, all aspects of electric vehicles need to be improved.(cost, range, lifespan) At present, 25%~30% efficient IC engines 'rool'
@tjeremiah97479 жыл бұрын
fuck automotive engineering college. Just watch /Engineered
@tjeremiah97479 жыл бұрын
I know very well, don't take it so seriously it is just the internet. I am a engineering student myself actually. So I know the information here is kinda superficial....
@bigballstouchem15609 жыл бұрын
+Mari Onette sssssshhhhhh, dont tell them that.. Before he thought the exhaust was just to keep it quite. now he tells his mates his exhaust is fully modified super customized electronic pressurized badass
@kengit22 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic! Didn't expect to enjoy it this much. Thank you!
@accordaffair9 жыл бұрын
this is really hard to watch while baked
@roberthinojosa11557 жыл бұрын
Try watching it on Lucy. I feel like i just went to college.
@johnbeer52426 жыл бұрын
Alexander Garcia hahha baked 😂 square ass 😂 hahah
@craigwall95364 жыл бұрын
..and yet we persisted...
@zachfrickel49259 жыл бұрын
Watching this on lunch at work. Love it!
@FourTwenny9 жыл бұрын
Does he know he's an ad?
@ejaokay7 жыл бұрын
A THIRTY MINUTE ad! A little more like an infomercial.
@s1mph0ny6 жыл бұрын
I wish more ads were like this. If there was ever a real case to convince someone of the value of your product it's using an experienced engineer like this to share information with a crowd of actually interested buyers.
@swaraj79936 жыл бұрын
That's not just another way to look at it but a bad way to look at it.
@reallyhappenings55976 жыл бұрын
Do you?
@alwaysopen79706 жыл бұрын
I wonder if he's a dad?
@AnthonySeiler-f9g11 ай бұрын
Incredibly informative video. So much knowledge here. Thank you to all involved.
@corvettez06ss9 жыл бұрын
so this is a long magnaflow commercial??? it would have been better if you guys interviewed someone who does not belong to a exhaust company. also actual data from a dyno, comparing mufflers/headers
@stephencain34679 жыл бұрын
your an idiot
@stephencain34679 жыл бұрын
corvette z06 guy probably doesnt evem have a corvetter
@TqSNv9R0iG5Ckxew9 жыл бұрын
+Stephen Cain Learn the difference between "your" and "you're" before calling someone an idiot.
@johnbeer52426 жыл бұрын
corvettez06ss yeah exactly
@4u2cJoeD6 жыл бұрын
I am a old mx racer. Have done a lot of tuning bikes andtrucks. i am surprised that I was so wrong with the 4 into 1 for torque. nice presentation, Well presented
@Oblithian7 жыл бұрын
Only clicked on this because I thought it was Engineering Explained... it isn't.
@exige36044 жыл бұрын
wow...thank you, very well put video! In the early days getting into cars, guys use to say...back pressure this and bp that! Now as you have explained it, this makes a whole lot of sense. And about the Ford GT40, that is a very good point too, regarding 180* collectors. Thank you very much, appreciate the great information!
@LZKS9 жыл бұрын
All that talk about the advantages of absorption muffler is garbage. They'll drone like the end of the world when cruising despite what garbage science the MF guy is trying to tell you. You really want a "reflection" muffler as he calls it if you want a decent sounding muffler. How good the muffler will sound will 100% depend on how well the chambers inside the muffler is designed specifically for the vehicle, and that requires a TON of R&D. Cheap-ass magnaflow will try to tell you absorption is fantastic because they're easy AF to make.
@NecessaryJerry9 жыл бұрын
+Woo Cheol Shin My Roush muffler (actually made by Borla) on my mustang has no highway drone and is loud as hell when you get on it and it's a straight through absorption design.
@Daveinet8 жыл бұрын
+Woo Cheol Shin The exact opposite is true. If you have an absorption muffler that drones, then the absorption material has failed. An easy way to tell is to tap the outside of the muffler, if you here a dead thud, then the absorption material is OK. If the outside surface rings when you hit it, then the material has failed. For comparison, I had 70 series Flowmaster on my motorhome. Not only did they kill the mileage and power, but they droned like crazy because even through the sound bounced around in the chamber, the noise transferred through the case, because there is nothing to absorb it. The 70 series may have been quiet at the end of the pipe, but up by the muffler, it was very noisy. I removed the pair of 70 series Chokemasters, and installed two Magnaflow mufflers. I made no other changes to the system. The mufflers were much quieter in the coach, with no drone. My mileage went from 6 mpg to 8.5 mpg. My zero to 60 time went from 19 seconds to 16.5 seconds.
@muznick7 жыл бұрын
The Dynomax ultraflow sounds good and doesn't drone any more than a Flowmaster 40. I don't care for the Magnaflow sound though. It's too bland and quiet.
@andrewbartleman91697 жыл бұрын
Woo Cheol Shin this was not about sound...lol
@EuroE559 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying this /ENGINEERED series. Thanks.
@Punjabimoney1879 жыл бұрын
MagnaFlow garbage af...
@Buggabones9 жыл бұрын
Not really garbage. Just over priced.
@Buggabones9 жыл бұрын
Not really garbage. Just over priced.
@deere33218 жыл бұрын
Very good presentation. It helped to understand how complex an exhaust system can be.
@RBAERO3 жыл бұрын
That series ENGENDERED is one of the best on you tube about car performance!
@Master-di4di8 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation of the exhaust system.Thanks for sharing.
@dominiczanella73786 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of what an exhaust does, and how it relates to performance.
@rcduck20109 жыл бұрын
More, Please More!! Really answered some thoughts for me. Particularly interesting as im just starting to get into fluid dynamics so some of these principles really made sense and I could see how they related. Thank You Sir
@annelizevanzyl1179 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a well covert topic! Once again confirms that most of the "off the shelf items" is just rubbish instead of a work of art. Love you work.
@saint65635 жыл бұрын
The Industry is lucky to have you. Thanks!
@ROHITSIMHAREDDY9 жыл бұрын
I knew exhaust systems are complicated, man I had no idea that a lot of engineering is required to design one, after watching this video I'll think twice before getting a random after market exhaust !
@bigjmeister9 жыл бұрын
This guy is very knowledgable. Thanks
@k1ng0fk1ngsromelo63 жыл бұрын
Best explanation I’ve heard I’ve learned more from this video in the last 20
@Firefuzz119 жыл бұрын
All I know is that a 5 inch down pipe back straight pipe will help benefit my truck as well as the addition of a cold air intake.
@atraxr6039 жыл бұрын
This series is very cool. I really like it. Thanks for sharing.
6 жыл бұрын
Outstanding, thank you. Piping up turbos at the shop is a piping nightmare. Nice to know what we are working with.
@tibomoltini28514 жыл бұрын
never thought about it , very well explained. espacially vacums, designs, active technology and sound tweeking. Tx!
@MorganOliff9 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Very cool of you to avoid name-dropping your products along the video. Smart video for intelligent customers!
@craigpennington12516 жыл бұрын
Very informative. And he made sense. Great video for learning.Thanks a bunch.
@steves80147 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, especially about the GT40, and the issue of 30% less drag in a muffler with holes than a pipe. Helpful in deciding what exhaust to run.
@rcafmaintainer37239 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! I always tell people with loud pop can exhaust or those diesel behemoths that if not tuned for that application, it can be counter productive. You can't think you are smarter than the engineer, yes, for a mass produced or motorcycle, one can get lucky when they put on aftermarket muffler/exhaust and it matches the tune for more performance.
@mikeyri2tx7 жыл бұрын
Awesome informative video. Nice summary. I had MF on my Chevrolet 6.0 2500HD and putting the same 1 to 2 MF on my 6.2 Hummer H2.
@TheZerplex9 жыл бұрын
Love these engineered vids keep them coming. Nerdier the better
@RecklessEnterainment9 жыл бұрын
I really like the engineered videos. I love seeing how companies make things work. Magna flow seems like their style runs in the same direction as borla with muffler. glad packing and perforated cores to let the mufflers flow good at high rpm with out drone at cruising, and of course they say flowmasters style of muffler won't flow as well which we all know by now.
@DLSHARPSHOT9 жыл бұрын
Amazing video series by drive!Extremely informative and helpful to understanding the complexities of the modern car and or racecar.Keep up the great work!
@ThePianoCentre6 жыл бұрын
Excellent production and very interesting , thanks
@idleprechaun9 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for something like this forever. Thank you so much
@FlatPlaneCranky5 жыл бұрын
This channel is like the hot rod side of Scotty Kilmer. Love these series!! Subbed!