This Pur Sang Alfa Romeo 8C Is Better Than The Original -- /TUNED

Pur Sang is an Argentine company that builds amazingly accurate versions of classic racecars, like the Pur Sang Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Monza. Matt Farah finds out why sometimes a faithful reproduction is better than the original.

[@makemespin]

Less music, more engine.

[@NeverLetOff]

If everyone was still driving a Model T, driving while texting would not exist.

[@NeverLetOff]

+D. R. Davis I only wish that were true... I ride religiously and I have seen other riders eff'ing with their phone while riding... The only options left are vehicles that drive themselves or they are so damn complex, you literally cannot doing anything else but drive.

[@dashcamcalifornia5003]

+Refisol I wish this were true but people would find a way...

[@hugh-johnfleming289]

Texting/phoning and driving should not exhist. It should carry the same penalty as a DUI or attempted manslaughter. Turn it off and drive.

[@SI0AX]

I remember seeing a female cop riding he motorcycle while glued to he phone. Crazy... Shit I've been a passenger in my friends car while he was playing a video game on his cellphone while driving. He says he doesn't do that anymore, he just watches YT videos while driving now -_-

[@Specter57]

That 8C is beautiful.

[@loloh91]

WTF with that shitty music played too loud over Matt's voice. And we want to hear the damn engine!

[@miurasvlamborghini]

Thank you sir, you seem to be the only intelligent one here.

[@makemespin]

+Lorenzo Hill Thank god im not the only one feeling this way.

[@NecrolustKvlt]

+Lorenzo Hill Yeah what the fuck

[@flavourboss]

+NecrolustKvlt Its the same artist that everyone was asking about on the /MOMO SlowMo: Sebring 2014 video. Not fitting to a Pur Sang video and its edited to load haha. The song on the /momo video is sick.

[@HiroshimaSpirit]

Welp, the Pur Sang 8C just went on the when I'm filthy rich list.

[@computiNATEor]

Along with the Eagle Speedster and Singer 911, yep!

[@HiroshimaSpirit]

I'll take an Eagle Low-Drag GT, thanks. Haha

[@VerboseSlayer]

why buy an old race car when you can build one?

[@VerboseSlayer]

jS197 because no life is worth living without struggle.

[@VerboseSlayer]

jS197 listen, you can either buy premade sandwiches or make your own, but making your own tastes better.

[@curmudgeon1933]

Matt says at 8:40 'the sound is incredible'. What do we hear? Intrusive, derivative, bland wallpaper music. Please don't obscure what could be an interesting review with this garbage.

[@larsbg]

+Curmudgeon just like the old drive :-(

[@yjwrangler7819]

Agreed. Watch Jay Leno drive this instead.

[@Patrick_B687-3]

It is truly irritating and obviously produced by young ones not into cars. YOU DONT NEED music beds on EVERYTHING. SHEESH!

[@yjwrangler7819]

@@Patrick_B687-3 I disagree that this is something that has to do with age. There are PLENTY of similar videos produced by older folk who do the exact same thing.

[@anonharingenamn]

Yea I gotta say, the music is a little bit too loud.

[@ZEZERBING]

yea, that front end wobbles a bit.

[@WatchmakerErik]

The dictionary definition of "replica" is an exact duplicate. By that definition, the Pur Sang Alfa is a Replica. The problem is that most other so-called replicas aren't. Thanks to that, the true meaning of a word is lost.

[@nickway_]

Agreed. The word "replica" like many other words in the English language has been diluted through poor use. I would call most of the other poor replicas a representation. This is Alfa is a much truer replica.

[@atopeconlatxabaleria]

Pur Sang literally means "Pure Blood", yes, but it should be translated as "thoroughbred", that is what it actually means.

[@jaydokken]

Just a little feedback guys: The audio levels seems to be off, it's seems too loud and distracts from the voice over. Anyway- what an experience to drive that Alfa!

[@maciejf.]

The background music is horrible... You've completely ruined half of the video. I mean, "the sound is just incredible", says Matt... Right...

[@Dgannt]

Thanks for showing us all these different exciting cars. I had no idea Pur Sang existed and that they build authentic cars from that era. Gives you another perspective about race drivers who drove that Alfa at full speed in races of the time.

[@Galf506]

music is obnoxious...

[@Uirigoy]

looking at this video i just come to conclude how muuuch of a car guy Jay Leno is. He makes it look so easy and natural when he drives all type of proper pre war cars and he is just incredibly knowledgeable of everything cars.

[@IamTheUSB]

Alright guys, I like the new videos and this one was good too. However I think there should be someone who watches the final version to make sure everything is as it's supposed to be. Why do I say this? Because the music was too loud most of the time, making it hard to hear what the people are saying. And secondly, the music was too aggressive on occasion. In my opinion, when I watch reviews, I like there to be a little and quiet background music but not aggressive guitar solos etc. Personally I find it best simply to use calm and relaxing music. Some might say that is elevator music and I would probably agree. But what makes a car review great is not it's music but rather the content and cinematography which you guys seem to have under control but what makes a car review fantastic is when the sound is correctly adjusted and the music simply helps smoother transition (and not make it awkward). Thank you and keep up the good work!

[@Nicktrance1]

How do they compare to the Fiesta ST?

[@mushtaqsamim98]

+Nicktrance1 .....

[@LiteSwitch]

+Nicktrance1 haha!

[@ismaeltenenbaum4103]

hats off to Pur Sang. That's some serious craftsmanship

[@spazda_mx5]

Outstanding. Things to buy with a lottery win.

[@hectorcarloshoppenstedtsal5407]

Felicidades , ustedes se deben sentir verdaderamente ,muy orgullosos por lo que hacen , cada auto es una verdadera obra de arte !!

[@Rimpianto]

7 minutes out of 11 talking about a different car than the title, wow.

[@SDumitru23]

I really like how he separated the replicas from what these machines are. I keep having mixed feelings about people who, for example recreate the SWB groul B Audi Quattro by cutting an Urquattro. I always felt like they were doing much more than a replica exactly because they do it in the same way and by using the same techniques that Audi did. Thank you Matt for the definitions and the cool video!

[@shredlabstudios]

That guys model t has one of the most epic car stories/histories I've heard. I can't believe thats the one he used in all cars go to heaven 2. Beyond badass.

[@lexburen5932]

wow, this was great, both the model T, and the alfa. magnificent cars from that era :D

[@kurthaberstroh7111]

Does anyone else notice the wobbly front left rim on the Model T? Did you notice it while driving Matt? (if you ever see this)

[@scheethoofd]

Seeing that period modified Ford T was just awesome ! :D

[@TheBurnoutGang]

i've been waiting for so long for this ep.... heard Matts Podcast in January and it sounded like it was going to be awesome. I wasn't mistaken

[@ExceptionallyCleverUsername]

That T car has been converted to overhead valves, which is a pretty drastic update. The originals were of course side valve.

[@racermaniak]

What was the first song? Great video.

[@The9000thReich]

Very interesting to see you driving the T Matt! It really is totally unlike any modern car!

[@Ecosse57]

one of your best episodes, guys.

[@jakeparker8254]

there is a guy I know in nz that builds these in his shed, builds every component but the block from scratch. These guys will probably know of him as well can't be to many master 8c builders in the world. If your ever in nz you should check him out its kiwi engineering at its best!

[@papapetad]

+Jake Parker What's his name and how do you find him?

[@hathor82]

well...I will say "kiwi craftmanship at its best". cause if the job it's done properly, the engineering still belong to Alfa. But don't get me wrong, for me this is a good thing!! engineering today something like that, simply means being 100 years late, while this craftmanship skills are almost gone, so the few people in the world still able to do this quality work, deserved to be called ARTISTS! cheers from Italy ;)

[@fuddrucker74]

that was great!! I bet the model T does well. can't wait to see that one. Matt. Boy, you can tell you've lost weight, you look great. keep it up, man.

[@cuntyballs5938]

came here expecting a tuned mid engined carbon tubbed sports car, left even happier than if you gave me that, dat workmanship doe

[@bradgotch]

I guess more than a few drivers of the T were speared through the chest by the steering column.

[@baloonia1]

Awesome video but the Audio ruined it. The Model T is in a great condition and the Alfa is just astonishing.

[@barath4545]

In the 8C, the distance from Matt's right arms elbow to the back right tire is scary small.

[@funshootin1]

Super cool episode, something a little different but pretty interesting

[@thesoundman22]

Very cool vid Matt. Nice work.

[@solonimbus_yt]

The audio levels sound fine for me, using headphones.

[@incargeek]

I always tap like early. /DRIVE, Tuned, etc are always intelligent, fun, visual and atmospheric /DRIVE has a distinctive house style. This one is great!

[@sauravrisal1316]

Great video but try making the music louder next time.

[@Mile3500]

Filmed in Huntington Beach?

[@rick7858]

That video about that offroad trip in Utah with Mr. Bothwells' Model T never went live i think, thats too bad

[@boy638]

can one register this for road use?

[@johnseverinjr000111]

I actually learned some things, thanks!

[@AkaAndyKnuckles]

Really liked the model T driving.

[@sikhovski]

Man that steering wheel is scaring the crap out of me ...

[@SuperAspari]

Whats the name of the intro song please???

[@elgringiototote]

Is this the same model T that tried to do that big drive with Matt and the boys on his last big video?

[@elgringiototote]

Lol, the end of the video answered my question

[@hkm_865]

Downshifting early cars is nearly impossible without grinding. My model A doesn't downshift for shit

[@jaguarx7]

+HKM _ Really? I was downshifting my model A when I was 14...

[@hkm_865]

+Jerry Hughes,Jr early transmissions were not synchronized

[@arnoudbonte6417]

You can downshift a unsynchronized transmission. you just have to match rpm's so when you double clutch downshift give it a lot of gas and you will be fine

[@OliverPickard]

totaly awesome video and Mr Bothwell you sir are a badass

[@insanity2amillion]

So it's a reproduction

[@SgtStinger]

+insanity2amillion Yes.

[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen9802]

Or perhaps a continuation?

[@nourisalden]

+insanity2amillion it's not really a reproduction car, at Pur Sang they have actual craftsmen and the old machinery from pre-war times, they use the actual blueprints of the original cars, the cars are mostly built with the same mindset and production methods as the 1920s 1930s cars. So these cars are really more of a continuation than a reproduction.

[@CockatooDude]

+insanity2amillion More like a newly built original.

[@BitemeFilm]

No, Pur Sang builts replica's. True Bugatti specialists can easily tell you the differences compared to an original Molsheim Bugatti.

[@yadidimeanmaine]

The '30s, '60s, and '90s were the best decades for cars. If the trend continues then I'm looking forward to the 2020s.

[@paulintile]

Sorry to disappoint you.

[@OKjoey86]

This guy is a badass. I love that he drives that Model T unrestored.

[@storck08]

What is the price range for the Grand Prix Pur Sang cars?

[@lejink]

+storck08 200k for some Bugattis, up to half a mil

[@mortenbakke2810]

whoa that t-ford wheel wobble:O

[@AMP21EBP]

Intro song info: Alex Arcoleo - Power

[@cdoublejj]

wheres the model T video?

[@oldschoolfoil2365]

that moosic is awesome would ritchie hawton be driving it?

[@aaronisgrate]

1:40 is that wheel supposed to wobble like that? cant tell if its the wheel and tire or if its just the tire.

[@namsaying]

it's just sketchy haha. it'll be fine.

[@skeggjoldgunnr3167]

It has never been taken apart...one HUNDRED years of abuse!

[@sigmaprojects]

Looked like the wheel has lateral run out.

[@dougauzene8389]

Wow..A Running Model T With What Looks Like A Pent-Valve ROOF Head! My Grandpa ls Smiling Down! So Digging The Alfa, Too...Pure Blood (Pur Sang) lndeed!

[@johnnyboy1586]

The right side wheel on the T has a bit of a wobble😅

[@maximilianb4639]

Whats the first song ?

[@johnnyhirt8903]

No valve cover on the model T? Hot damn

[@JoJoJoker]

Old video?

[@germi1]

Massive Matt F.! Really nice clip!

[@DaleEarnhardtsSeatbelt]

"slide a pur sang type 195 through an off ramp at more than 100 miles an hour" Jesus h fucking christ... Owning that model T must be amazing.

[@JeanMichelJarreJarreBinks]

For a second reading the title I feared someone went all retromod and shoved a crate 302 in there

[@maxfennimore9964]

8:57 there is a car either the trunk up in the background

[@holdengaming1]

Older cars sound and look so much better

[@alecmauer5508]

okay I am wondering is it street legal? because it is being built in the modern age (main thing I am wondering about is the windshield wiper) because that's the main thing I would think would be different for it to be registered seeing as the title probably says 2015 so it wouldn't fall in the grandfather law, but maybe there is another rule tht I don't know about.

[@JustJooZt]

+Alec Mauer might be that murica might be that its registerd as another 1930's alfa whilst only using its fuelpump or another part the cars share

[@MalcolmRowley]

That was BRILLIANT!!

[@fillefilander]

Came here for the Alfa, but 2/3 of the video was about a model T...

[@DoRC]

We had a model t in my shop a couple years ago. I had the honor of getting to replace the liners in the transmission. Hammering copper rivets as a step to working on a Trans was crazy. And yes they are interesting to drive (the owner asked me to deliver it about 10 miles away). There's no safeguards hold down the wrong two pedals and the Trans will self destruct in seconds.

[@kroffustsnail]

I hope he fixed that wobbly front left wheel on the T by now

[@Granattaaaaaa]

Replica: any close or exact copy or reproduction. It is a replica, just a really good one.

[@IamtheREALJonesy]

Test a gt350r, I want to see a review from Matt Farah

[@BurnDuration]

Higher compression causing more heat? For the same fuel and air mass flow, heat transfer to the coolant and exhaust would be reduced as more work is being sent to the pistons. Hence greater efficiency with higher CR. (Ideal gas law is not very applicable.)

[@pd4165]

+BurnDuration Greater efficiency does not imply less heat - he claims double the horsepower (which would be used quite a bit in such a slow car) and, although greater efficiency doesn't mean double the fuel use for double the power, it does imply a lot more fuel being burnt. Since internal combustion is incredibly inefficient that's a lot more heat that has to be dealt with.

[@BurnDuration]

+pd4165 I can see your point if fuel and air mass flow is increased. If we hold these values constant, and only raise compression ratio, on the expansion stroke net indicated mean effective pressure will increase, assuming we anchor the 50% mass fraction burn angle at the same crank angle. On the CI engines I run at work, with compression ratios of 16 or higher, more in-cylinder work generally reduces pre turbine temperatures and heat rejection to the coolant according to my measurements.

[@pd4165]

+BurnDuration Model Ts had a CR of about 4:1, aren't diesel and have no turbine recovery of waste heat. If your coolant system is already marginal, and your thermal efficiency around 20%, adding more fuel, to maintain your mixture, will result in nearly 80% (obviously less due to the higher efficiency) of that energy exiting via the exhaust or contained by the coolant. That coolant system isn't going to cope. I dunno - didn't they bother with the laws of thermodynamics where you went to school?

[@BurnDuration]

+pd4165 My apologies. I'm afraid we aren't discussing the same thing anymore, as I was referring to specifically compression ratio. It's my mistake for discussing this on KZbin as it resorts to insults. You win.

[@bretprins4792]

Lol ok that looked hard Matt, nice job haha!

[@magatsu82]

would love to know what Argentina has to do with this company, I'm from Argentina and this made me curious, found no other reference to Argentina in the video but the name of the company

[@loloh91]

Se fabrican 100% en Argentina los autos. La empresa es Argentina.

[@sebasaiello]

+Nikolas Manuelides La fabrica esta en Entre Rios si no me confundo, y al parecer estan catalogados como uno de los mejores restauradores del mundo

[@johnleduc4752]

Awesome.......

[@3ducs]

Pulled me in with the Pur Sang and then wasted my time with the T.

[@tadficuscactus]

left front wheel is a bit wobbly

[@StPaul76]

Front left wheel bearings seem to have retired for good.. The wheel is wobbling like a.. You know what in where.. :D

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

Betting the Model T makes it in the desert while newer units fail.

[@alexander_ford_]

What happened??? started dropping new episodes of /TUNED and now nothing in 2 months on /DRIVE?

[@dopeymark]

Very cool

[@Foresthillspictures]

How are they allowed to import these or otherwise sell them in the US without the mandated safety features?

[@jbbairoletto1509]

Pura Sangre!!

[@olivierb9091]

Honestly, could not imagine dropping 700-800k for a new Lamborghini or Ferrari when you can have this masterpiece for 450k... (since this video came out probably a tad more, but still)

[@Bofatutube]

So can you race that Alfa?

[@alexzanderarmstrong]

Fantastic!!!!!

[@Dirkietje8]

@1:00 about the value of actual historic cars being too high to drive them (and even insure them for it). Then you have Julian Mazjub who goes like nothing else in an historic Type 35B Bugatti up the hill at Goodwood. Must watch!

[@22copes]

Wrong shade of Red, unless its the lighting, I remember the real ones being a darker shade. Tacho is wrong for the Scuderia Ferrari models, also under the dash the SF cars had a black knob to adjust the rear shock absorbers. Dash is wrong. Intake manifold is missing the aluminium fins, Rocker covers are the wrong shape. I also think it's very bad form to put the Scuderia Ferrari emblem on the side of any car that wasn't part of the factory team. But I only worked on a 2600 Scuderia Ferrari Monza not a 2300, I'm only going from memory though.

[@marianirmer4811]

Please make a new video of that work or art but without music

[@WolfKenneth]

Pur Sang could make W.O. Bentley for Bentley Boys... :)

[@FatherWicker]

Hey that's huntington beach.

[@danielblack605]

+Mark Wicker i was going to say the same thing that where i"m from

[@Q45monster]

would u call them recreations then if not replicas ?

[@EnergyReturnWheel]

All about the wheels. ERW retro existing fleet with zero modifications. Massive efficiency, never flat logistics. Vacuum Pressure increases High Frequency Response.

[@avemaria4788]

It's so fast I saw your hair blowing in the wind