DRIVEN: Volkswagen ID.7. Has VW finally built a Tesla-beater? | Electrifying.com

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Volkswagen’s all-electric ID. brand has come a long way in a very short space of time. The latest addition to the family, the ID.7, is the fifth all-electric ID model to be launched in Europe and the sixth worldwide. And with the sub £23k ID.2 supermini in the pipeline, the future for electrified Volkswagens looks bright.
The ID.7 sits at the top of Volkswagen’s ever-expanding range (although in terms of price it sits alongside the ID.Buzz), and is available in saloon form initially, with a Tourer estate to follow later this year. Although Volkswagen officially refers to the ID.7 as a saloon, it’s actually a large hatchback. As part of Volkswagen’s plan to gently ease buyers from ICE models to electric, it loosely fills the void that will appear in the brand’s range when the Passat saloon disappears from the line-up later this year (the new model will be estate-only).
The ID.7 will eventually come with two battery size options: the familiar 77kWh pack that appears across the existing range, and a new 86kWh pack that so far has only been offered in the ID.Buzz long-wheelbase. The smaller pack is available from launch with the larger one joining the line-up later this year. In terms of charging, the 77kWh pack peaks at 170kW on a DC charger, while the 86kWh pack can accept a charge speed of up to 200kW. Expect 10-80% charge times of around 25-35 minutes on a suitable DC charger.
Join Ginny as she puts the new Volkswagen ID.7 under the microscope for the first time. Has VW finally built a car to rival the Tesla Model 3? Let us know in the comments below.
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[@aye3678]

I for one am grateful this isn't another SUV. Good job VW.

[@andkosification]

And because it is not an SUV, it won't sell very good.

[@shroomyesc]

@@andkosification Although SUVs are very popular, sedan styled liftbacks are rather popular in the EV segment. And the Model 3 and EQE are both real sedans with impractical trunks and yet they still sell amazingly, even if the Model Y is more popular.

[@ianpolo5673]

Me too. I am grateful VW planned a wagon version of this too. SUVs are boring. Too many of them.

[@ShadowHolder748]

Yeah, I’m also quite excited for the Audi A6 e-tron, which is shaping up to hopefully be a really good premium EV wagon with outstanding range. Will be too expensive for most at launch but could be a good used buy depending on depreciation and reliability.

[@yudhabagaskara98]

it replaces passat sedan though

[@robsmith1a]

It isn't an SUV but still looks massive next to Ginny.

[@discoverkenya]

She’s only ditty, 5’4” I think

[@alangravy27]

@@discoverkenya it is a 5 metre car!!!

[@sargfowler9603]

yea, looks like a small barge

[@UnCannyValley67]

Large and unattractive. 😢

[@maxflight777]

She is a slender, elegant lovely lady!! ❤

[@simondehaas8784]

Tidbits: All ID cars have adaptive regen and they all have regen on the brake pedal. Just not super strong regen on liftoff. The D mode is comparatively great though. Also the mapping is very good. I use it regularly in preference to android auto. Just falls down on voice recognition.

[@grahamt2672]

The most efficient way to drive any car is to use the brakes (/regen in an electric car) as little as possible by anticipating what's happening ahead of you as much as possible. That's because when your electric car engages regen it's not converting all the kinetic energy to electrical energy, there are losses. There are occasions, like going down a hill where you have to slow down, where regen is great and recaptures energy that would otherwise be lost as heat via the brakes. Otherwise doing gradual acceleration and coasting as much as possible is the way to go.

[@sandrahildebrand4475]

ID 7 drives much better than Model Y: Handling, comfort, brakes , lights and seats are way way better. Plus, ID 7 is the first VW for decades with attractive design, looks live 3x better than on video

[@bullshitbingo2259]

Awesome car! Spacious (especially the upcoming Touring version), efficient with a good range and priced high but fairly.

[@Petroelhead]

Who takes this over a Tesla? Evereyone who likes a cockpit that makes ergonomically sense, should choose this over a tesla 3. Turn signal stock and a speedometer in front would do it for me allready

[@pedipedi9559]

I hear you. I've lived now a year with my Model 3 and miss my heads-up display, ability to set my climate control using a button, and auto-wipers from VW Tiguan. Two more years and I'm getting rid of it...worst car experience ever.

[@jimj2683]

VW has terrible maps. Tesla has Apple maps on a larger screen with all the places and info you would want.

[@pedipedi9559]

@@jimj2683 I guess you are not a Tesla driver. Tesla has google maps as its map. All I need is Apple Car play in my do be new EV in two years and I will be happy. Oh and functioning autowipers would be nice, oh maybe a heads-up display, oh and a AC & heating system that works...Tesla is not a car company and it's been led by a maniac unfortunately a genius in many ways, but a maniac. My 1st impression when I drove the Tesla Model 3 was wow, nice. Little did I know how bad quality the car is along with its software. Two more years and I'm done. Hopefully some idiot will buy my car.

[@Jeroenneman]

Well, apart from a signal stock and a speedometer in front of you, I'd take the Tesla any day. Looks way better, has better efficiency, better range, better software, an actual app that works.

[@Petroelhead]

@@Jeroenneman Yes, but all of that does not help me, when i have to pay speeding fines here in switzerland because i can't see the f**** speed i am actually driving, or potentially drive over a kid while looking away from the street. The looks are debatable, and i don't care about the app. i don't need an app while driving my car, it dies not help me with daily operating the car. And the worst thing is, Tesla is doing this concept only to save money, thats it. The marketing sells you the lack of ergonomics in the car as a friking feature. but its not. They just saved 50 bucks in production vallue or so, thats it...

[@tristonsmy2434]

Gonna need a Bus stop to park it, it is huge! Wouldn't be much cop on most of our Devon lanes

[@Lascarnn]

But it has great turning radius, which makes that size not that bad

[@FormulaWhine]

I like this, and I like that it's not another infernal SUV. As a company car driver, this would be on my list ahead of the BYD Seal (brand equity is playing its part here) and the Tesla 3 or Y. I would favour the i4 over it though but I think if VW price this keenly in the lease market they could mop up the company car orders.

[@oliverstemp9132]

It’s £60k at the moment 😮

[@blobstrom]

Good review, it'll be interesting to know how close it can get to its WLTP range. One thing i don't understand is the 1 pedal driving and regen argument.. Don't all EV's use regen braking when you press the brake, which varies depending on brake pressure until you get to emergency braking and about to stop where it will use the friction brakes? I know this is the case on my Kia, So no energy is wasted. I adjust the regen on the paddles to save me having to move my foot to the brake pedal but generally prefer regen level 1 or 0 on the motorway

[@grahamt2672]

I agree WRT one pedal driving. I prefer being able to coast and choose to regen/brake using a brake pedal when I want to.

[@sargfowler9603]

It's got a hatch boot, stalks and switches! Much better than any Tesla!

[@mendywouter5628]

Interesting that a lot of people compare this car with a Tesla model Y. I wonder in that case... have you seen the car in real life ? Yes, a model Y is a good car. But a lot of journalist compare this ID7 from a size and quality with EQE and i5. So go and see the car, drive it and make you conclusion if you want to buy an "expensive ID7 model Y" or a cheap ID7 model Eqe or i5). Drive comfort and luxury way ahead of a model Y. But good we have a choice, right 😊

I saw many comments that ID line of cars look dull and clinical. I'm not a fan of ID4 and 5, but 3, 7 and Buzz looks cool in my opinion.

[@andybrice2711]

I like dull and clinical. Recently, most cars have become over-designed with far too many swage-lines.

@@andybrice2711 exactly

[@JunkerOnDrums]

I would chose the ID.7 over the Tesla Y!!! :D

[@johnsmith-cw3wo]

anything over the Tesla

[@mendywouter5628]

Just ordered one. Fantastic car and driving comfort can't be compared with a model Y. About the re-gen option. In D mode indeed limited but if you change into B mode you almost have 1 pedal drive experience. If I am not mistaken you can als change the car settings in order to have "auto predictive re-gen". So I would say... take another longer option to explore the car 😊

[@ISuperTed]

So with options and metallic paint it will be close to £60k, for a Passat basically. Your choice but this is way over-priced.

[@thedreamfactory6964]

You're right. Can not be compared with a model Y. The Y is way cheaper and more energy efficiënt. If money is no object and electricity is for free: you made the right choice. I really hope you enjoy your car.

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

​@@thedreamfactory6964the Y is not more "fuel efficient" as neither of these cars use fuel.

[@thedreamfactory6964]

@@TheAllMightyGodofCod I changed it tot 'energy efficient'. Is this ok?

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

@@thedreamfactory6964 do you really need to ask me?

[@tonybarton3746]

Love it❤, can we have more of the Ginny room in the back dance moves please 😂😂😂😂

[@mm-qd1ho]

Here in the US, BYD won't be available for quite a while, if at all. And there are plenty of buyers in the market who would rather walk than buy a car associated with Elon Musk. I don't know if those are reasons enough to make this VW successful, but I'm glad to see them in the game nonetheless.

[@pauladams5673]

It is not a failing to not have one-pedal driving. One-pedal driving requires the driver to position his/her foot precisely, no good for distance driving. Most ID drivers will tell you the intelligent regeneration system that reads the road is far superior. For those in the know, the motoring journalist obsession for o.p.d seems ill-thought.

[@djtaylorutube]

Turn on traffic aware cruise for distance driving. End of imaginary problem!

[@mamba101]

It may not be an SUV by definition but it’s huge!

[@barryw9473]

I see you are driving the ID.7 near Los Angeles. When will it be on sale in the USA?

[@chrispenn715]

Looks like a big step forward - but I personally don't need such a big car. I also dislike one pedal driving modes - much prefer my car to have fairly strong regen and then creep like an old school auto

[@HenrikSvensson-is4mq]

Will be interesting to see how they will develop ID 3 in the future, if they will make use of the things they have done right in ID7, if they, becuse ID3 size is good for smaller family or single people.

[@jchinuk]

An excellent review. While you are an experienced EV driver, in the UK anyway, most buyers will of EVs in the next few years will be 'first timers', in my case, the first time (in over 40 years) of driving with two pedals. I think VW have considered this, they think people will need easing into 'one-pedal' driving, I'm sure we will get used to it, but VW don't want to frighten anyone. I know from other reviews that the ID range defaults to 80% charge, you have to manually change that on the screen if you want 100%, so surely the mileage VW quote should be based on an 80% charge? After all, I suspect many drivers will never alter the default figure.

[@larsvaneynde4281]

I've driven diesel cars (manual gearbox) for 22 years and switched to electric this summer. I enabled one-pedal drive from day one and never looked back. Works brilliantly in the Volvo XC40 and I got used to it within hours. For my next lease it will be a must have.

[@johnminshall242]

I SO wanted this car to be better than the earlier ‘shorts’ that I’ve seen so far… but I don’t think it’s looking anywhere near as efficient as it’s supposed to be. Plus VW hiked the UK launch price by £6k - just a few reasons why my earlier interest is now beginning to soften! But, I’ll reserve final judgement until I’ve seen some ‘proper’ road tests, maybe with someone who’s got the car for at least a couple of days (it must be damn frustrating to only have an hour, and try to do any kind of review!).

[@josephcullen2512]

Yeah I would have to agree about the market for these... The estate version will be more unique and probably more popular

[@Molishious]

I predict VW will eventually bring back some knobs and buttons.

[@nightowlnzab]

I'm actually surprised in a new model, they've still gone with the touch controls after they acknowledged (I could find articles from 2022) they were a mistake and change would come. If they had time to design and build this new screen and system, they certainly had time to chuck some knobs and buttons on it by now.

[@Bioshyn]

let's hope so, i hate to have climate and such on a touch screen

[@TheJ1s]

I too like that they did a sedan one however, should have added quick buttons for certain controls.

[@camilstoenescu]

Has VW finally built a Tesla-beater? Maybe. It depends on the prices.

[@simonnrgaard7731]

No Tesla before thay start working with the trade unions in Europe. But the ID2 is more what i want

[@Pottery4Life]

Thank you.

[@vokstar]

It just seems HUGE! This seems like a Phaeton, VW group has to have a large saloon and VW typically gets first crack at it, but where you will see this cars underpinnings is in potentially Bentleys, Porsches. I do like a wagon but I don't know that that is what will save it, people just don't buy wagons in this segment anymore, they would rather pay extra for an SUV, that is most likely worse.

[@robertreid9079]

I do. 👍

[@CharltonLatchford]

There's one in our street here in Germany and it is as big as an old Phaeton.

[@hansuetz8659]

Not sure why the big suv craze older people I guess more comfortable to get in and out of. They have less room than a Normal car so I really don't get it.

[@vokstar]

You are right, easier to get in and out of for older people. TBH above and beyond marketing, I think some of it is just human nature, spend a little more to get a bigger thing feels like a bargain.@@hansuetz8659

[@Darthadios]

It´s basically an electric Passat, so who now drives a Passat now, might buy that next. Also about those notifications, I have clicked that bell on some channels but I don´t know what it does.

[@rpjwhite]

ID 7 estate looks really interesting even if the price is a bit spicy.

[@johnknight9150]

I didn't click this one for a week, but finally did. Half the videos I see on EVs are "Has company [insert name] built a Tesla Beater", and very often there are numerous videos with this title from the same channel. I'm guessing it has something to do with The Algorithm, but it's not something channels can keep doing into infinity and it's going to eventually turn people away. [I still clicked Like to counteract some of my blunt jerkiness]

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

Now, just get rid of that ugly screen in the middle and invest a little more in materials for the interior and we will have a winner

[@andyballard1883]

I think VW have made a big mistake with the 'pod like' screen in their range it just looks cheap plastic and a bolt on afterthought, If you compare the interior of a BMW i4 it's light years ahead

[@timmurphy5541]

Who would want it? Hahahahaha. I have a liftback now of similar size but ICE so I see this ID.7 as the perfect replacement. ITS LOVELY. Sooo practical - big boot, can collect anyone from the airport with lots of luggage. You don't need a station wagon version really because it's already got lots of vertical space at the back. It's a fabulous car. Money is the issue as always.

[@Yanquetino]

Hmmm. Somewhat encouraging, but I wish we could have seen the cargo area.

[@shaunmckenna1923]

Look forward to seeing a more in-depth video , I not that keen on the look but I have never been a VW fan.

[@Dqtube]

@BatteryLife has a whole series on this car. If you're interested in the details, he tested everything.

[@shaunmckenna1923]

@@Dqtube Thank you I will check it out .

[@EVsteve80]

I agree, who is their market? I own a BMW i4 and the only thing that would get me to buy an id7 would be the touring/ estate version. But will VW bring it to the US?

[@stennordenmalm9900]

I would put it like "Has VW finally got a Hyundai/Kia/Genesis beater". Tesla is today at least 2 years behind the top competition.

[@bullshitbingo2259]

True

[@mrmawson2438]

Afternoon Ginny it looks alright

[@user-ol6rd7pl5t]

All the vehicles in VW's ID range look like they were designed by Disney.

[@lm68lancashire60]

Great work as always Ginny x

[@jelloMohnny]

I like it a lot - much rather see a hatchback vs. a trunk. Really wish the station wagon would come to NA, but we seem to be hooked on SUVs.

[@hansuetz8659]

Ya its stupid. Suvs are gay.

[@andrewsutton1657]

Waiting for the estate....

[@nianguyen5269]

VW's refusal to incorporate one pedal drive on its EVs, even as a selectable option, is confusing and will continue to hold back it's sales potential.

[@irvingberlin8489]

Did it pass emissions testing :)?

[@alanrutland4424]

I really do get fed up with every electric car that comes out compared to Tesla. This is so different to them. Plus it has indicator stalk and dash screen and mirror controls on the door 😊. Little things like that. I really do like this car from VW and could be a contender for me.

[@chyldstudios]

Get the ID.7 if you love to pay more for outdated technology and subpar specs.

[@bullshitbingo2259]

Lol outdated Tech is the epitome of Tesla. They have nothing, no LiDAR, no 800V, no augmented reality HUD, no 350kW charging etc.

[@woodypwx]

I used to like SUVs and owned a VW Touareg and Audi Q7, but I like EVs now and understand their efficiency is significantly lower if they are heavy and bulky with high air resistance. My EV will not be an SUV for sure. I'm deciding between VW ID.7 and Model 3 Highland and ID.7 is definitely bigger (my family would fit there easily), better equipped and more luxurious and also has stalks. M3H is significantly cheaper, more nimble, faster and more efficient and the stalks can be retrofitted soon (Enh. Auto is working on it). Its app and entertainment is still better, but VW's is finally also very usable. It's a hard choice :(

[@timmurphy5541]

It doesn't sound like a hard choice at all. They're quite different cars and you wouldn't have the M3 on your list if you really cared a lot about fitting your family in. I'd prefer an ID.7 because no M3 would suit me or my family. In your case I think the M3 is what you want and you'll end up going for what you want.

[@Lewis_Standing]

BYD seal has more equipment as standard, a sunroof and is cheaper. Id7 starts at 55k and you need to pay extras to keep up with the BYD. Will make it hard to be brand loyal for people. European manufacturers may get eaten alive.

[@mba668]

All IDs have one Pedal Driven, if you switch to be. It is great that you have a choice!

[@V_Dubya]

Good job VW but the. Pricing is way out of whack versus competition now. VW EV effort is a day late and a dollar short yet again

[@joebloggs6131]

There'll be a few ID.7's on UK roads - certainly more than BYD Seal's! The cost will be more reasonable, coming out of Europe compared to Asia, and therefore sell better.

[@Lensman3333]

As always, When launched, SKODA will kick its ass, as KIA/HYUNDAI have done already.

[@hansuetz8659]

You mean the Hyundai 40k battery replacement. Coll.

[@Lensman3333]

All these rubbish EVs have hge replacement battery costs, and most get written off in a minor crash, they are all each make 100%. crap. @@hansuetz8659

[@hsbcgeoff]

Surely, the number we see on our roads will depend on its price?

[@yoda-1551]

I've got an ID.3, my winter efficiency is a pathetic 2.5 mi/kwh. VW need to up efficiency big time.

[@bullshitbingo2259]

ID.3 did not get the new drivetrain and electric motor. The new components are very efficient and have much more power too, the drivetrain is on par with a BMW i. Only ID.4/5/7 get the upgrade

[@truman4956]

Innovation is key: Giga casting? No. Stir by wire? No. 48 volt architecture? No. Innovative? No.

[@bullshitbingo2259]

lol none of these are innovations, they are years or even decades old and have nothing to do with Tesla. 350kW+ charging, LiDAR, augmented reality HUD, 800V, solid-state batteries, axial-flux motors? Where is it, where is Tesla? Better educate yourself.

[@wensiangfong]

​@bullshitbingo2259 none that you mentioned is consider innovation too..

[@sjwright2]

​@@bullshitbingo2259 "edequate" lol The OP's comment is lame fanboyism, but has basis in fact. "Giga" casting was a Tesla invention. They developed the process and the metallurgy. They worked with IDRA to manufacture the presses, and they still required significant modification from Tesla after delivery. The Cybertruck is the first production vehicle with no mechanical link between the steering column and the wheels. It's also the first production vehicle with true 48V bus power. (Mild hybrid doesn't count as that isn't bus power. It's a traction system akin to the 400V or 800V of EVs.)

[@bullshitbingo2259]

​​​​​​@@sjwright2 It was not bro. Are all fanboys this dumb? The machines come from a manufacturer in Italy and casting are used in other industries for decades. In car manufacturing they are not really positive because in a crash the whole casted segment has to get swapped. It makes more sense to use it in machine building, construction, tooling etc. Something which does not regularly crash. Insurances love this lol Cybertruck IS NOT the first vehicle with steer-by-wire the Infiniti Q50 or something had it almost 10 years ago. Tesla is all buzzwords and no real innovation. None of these things have a direct value for the customer. They do not make the car better. But parts which matter, like range, charging speed, driver assistance etc that is where the Cybertruck sucks. They know dumb fanboys don't know anything and they can sell fake snake oil to them. The vehicles are utter medicore and some parts are just pure garbage (like FSD). When do people actually do research?!

[@sjwright2]

@@bullshitbingo2259 There are many dumb fanboys and many dumb hateboys, both equally obsessed and equally misinformed. You're teetering on being the latter. The "manufacturer in Italy" is, as I said, IDRA. Tesla designed the process and metallurgy. IDRA made the press itself, which was highly customised by Tesla. Casting isn't new, but casting at this scale is. Comparing them is like saying a Ford F150 Lightning is the same as a golf buggy. You are right that damage to the casting would be more difficult/expensive to repair than in a regular car. There is significant crash structure in front of and behind the castings. A unibody car that has crash damage that far into the car is an immediate write-off. Whereas the significantly higher rigidity of castings makes them safer for humans in a crash and decreases the likelihood of write-off with medium level impacts. The Infiniti Q50 still has a backup mechanical link between the steering column and the wheels. The Cybertruck is the first production vehicle with *no* mechanical link between the steering column and the wheels. "The vehicles are utter medicore" is a perfectly fine opinion, I suppose it depends on whether you're stepping up from an economy car or stepping down from a full luxury car. "Tesla is all buzzwords" is just hateboy nonsense. You're clearly obsessed with anti-Tesla social media.

[@markbennett6658]

I’d say it needs to be a lot more interesting looking to find much of a market at the likely high price or be wearing a more prestigious badge?

[@hansuetz8659]

Looks much better than a tesla.

[@markbennett6658]

@@hansuetz8659 yes Teslas are no things of beauty but this VW is just ‘Meh ‘ to my eyes

[@jeffreycooper8408]

It may not be an SUV, but it is the size of a small country! Why ?

[@stoicapetruliviu8840]

Because humans are not the same size and shape

[@oliverstemp9132]

Hopefully it will be cheaper once the First Edition goes away

[@H01m3s]

Glad you mentioned estates… can’t wait for some EV versions to hit the market

[@screechmr2]

looks decent but the whatcar test showed the efficiency is pretty poor, i wonder if vw are cheating more tests

[@user-nu6fl1tq6u]

Looks like VW have looked at the lucid air and used tracing paper

[@maxnewts]

Must have turned some heads being in cali on German plates!

[@ISuperTed]

Starting price £56k!! How on earth are they going to sell them at that price? Tourer will be more and that claimed range of 384 miles on a 77KwHr battery is absolute nonsense. This is a Passat replacement and needs pricing accordingly. I just see this as a show car for a limited number of buyers while VW sort out EV’s at decent prices in a few years. Don’t get me wrong, nice car but no way will they sell many at that price.

[@frank4u2dayn8]

It's a Model S rival. Don't compare it with a much smaller Model 3.

[@ISuperTed]

@@frank4u2dayn8 I’m not, I’m comparing it to the car it’s replacing, the Passat. Again, £60k for a big VW saloon or estate, give me a break.

[@frank4u2dayn8]

@@ISuperTed Of course £60k (starting price) is too expensive. However, it is “cheap” compared to the Tesla Model S, Mercedes EQE, BMW I5 etc.

[@frank4u2dayn8]

@@ISuperTed I personally own several combustion cars (diesel and gasoline) from Audi and VW. Since I am very satisfied with Audi and VW, I would like to buy a used electric car that is worth the money. After around 18-24 months, a VW ID.5, for example, only costs half the new price.

[@ISuperTed]

@@frank4u2dayn8Don’t think it’s in that class of car - if it’s VW’s attempt to go upmarket then fair enough but I don’t see it.

[@jayb0nd007]

You said big battery and Your display showed 93% battery and 241 miles range, that means at 100 % it'll give you 270 miles of range not that competitive.

[@fredericoamigo]

Although I'm rooting for VW, I am sorry to say that I'm not sold on the exterior and the interior design. Regarding the exterior design,, the front light bar completely ruins the look. I hope VW drops this in the future. Glad to see that they have made some good updates to the infotainment software, but I'm sad to say they have to step their game up even more. However, I am optimistic on VW's behalf due to the upcoming ID2.All. That looks very promising.

[@carlosandleon]

VW was always boring. Nothing changed here. That’s the point of VW.

[@maxflight777]

VW Audi Porsche…when you consider how dominant the Golf was .. Well they had the opportunity to dominate the EV marketplace. Sadly they totally screwed up and now face bankruptcy.

[@chipsen3359]

Best EV Car👍

[@johnsmith-cw3wo]

[@ISuperTed]

Starting at £56,000 in UK - not going to sell at that price.

[@alistairl]

Firstly a compliment - delivering all that piece to camera when you only had an hour - yikes! I'm a bit of a VW fanboy but can't help but think the brand choice for different cars is a bit strange - why isn't the Cupra Born an Audi, and why isn't the ID.7 an Audi ?

[@mikaelskoglund373]

Finally a good-looking electric car that is not an SUV. Would definitely choose this over a Tesla.

[@gregorybigg8924]

Old battery technology tugging around a big lump of lard

[@bullshitbingo2259]

Lol what an unknowledgeable comment. The big battery option, 86kWh net, charges with 200kW and Volkswagen is increasing those numbers if they have tested the battery's health. NIO ET5 charges with 180kW with a 90kWh net capacity battery, by the way. And even the stupid Cybertruck only charges with 250kW peak but rapidly falls to 200kW and below. And the Cybertruck has a 124kWh net battery capacity. The range of the ID.7 with the 86kWh battery should be around 650km (400 miles) WLTP or 560km (350 miles) of real world range.

[@csguak]

Congratulations on Tesla for establishing themselves for bringing phrases such as, "Tesla-beater"

[@bobuk5722]

Hi Ginny, nicely done in what was a short time with the car. I'm over 70 and my next car will be an SUV style - much, much easier for me to get in and out of! I do intend it will be an EV - I have a grandson to start with. I don't need ludicrous acceleration, I do want 300 miles + real range. I like the idea of Tesla Superchargers. I want a hatchback as well - yup, my aching back. I want good handling, and this will really please you - INDICATOR STALKS! Why? Well, it's down to the way I was taught to signal on roundabouts all those decades ago. There are two get outs though. There's a firm probably going to add bolt on stalks for Teslas and when using SatNav signalling should be automatic. Some clever visual processing would be needed to detect roundabouts and cancel the SatNav indicators if the driver choose to continue past the planned exit - or leave early. That facility could also go some way to support non-SatNav driving. SpaceX can land reusable rockets, it has to be possible! Cheers, keep up this really useful reporting.

[@thedon404]

Looks like an Vauxhall insignia lol

[@rebym]

I suspect that VW would prefer to shoot for the top, not second place, but this is most certainly not a BYD beater, even if it betters Tesla.

[@thedon404]

Looks like a Vauxhall insignia😂😂😂

[@lm3718]

Not sure this is going to be able to compete with BYD Seal.

[@stoicapetruliviu8840]

To be able?😂

[@tobiwan001]

VW does not want „one pedal driving“ because people converting from ICE cars mostly hate it.

[@darrenaitcheson795]

Interior: worthy but dull. Exterior: worthy but dull.

[@HansVerheyen]

Glad that there is yet another electric sedan (read: non-SUV) on the market. But it's too expensive. For that amount of money, I'd prefer the BMW i4. Or go for the BYD Seal or Polestar 2 and keep some money in my pocket.

[@Mr_RichardH]

I'd be very interested in the Touring. Love an estate car.

[@Soulspinner001]

Why they never released it as a Tourer/Estate first is a mystery. As there is already a good choice of Coupe & Saloon/Sedan ev's to pick from. Would have been a logical choice in my opinion. Although, I believe there is a few more on the horizon from other Euro car manufacturers, and Chinese as well.

[@SWR112]

Bloody hell that’s massive. They need to get past these stupid figures you can get if your a Nun, driving down hill with the wind behind. Don’t lie to customers to disappoint them in the first few weeks. I already know someone who went from iD3 back to Honda Petrol because he was told X range and never got near it. Same person was so annoyed say he won’t buy VW again he had it for about seven months home charger now just a ornament at the side of the house.

[@ImmortalMachine]

Hate how chunky it looks, like the arkana or the enyaq hatchback. Awful.

[@mikadavies660]

Whilst its nice to hear their software is better but the big issue will be price.... Not mentioned here! But $50,000 for the base model, means at least £50,000 in UK. Tesla is still better value for money.

[@Racoonius]

And tesla is chepaer and you get supercharger software

[@brunoheggli2888]

Tesla is cheaper because its cheaper built!

[@mikadavies660]

@brunoheggli2888 Because it is designed to be built quickly and is assembled easily. 32hrs/VW vs 10hrs/Tesla... I agree VW fit and finish on some models is better (id3 not included) but VW is NOT the highest crash test score... Tesla is... Bending and welding hundreds of metal parts, then bending it back into tolerance is NOT to 21st Century "smart" way to produce a car... waste processes, waste materials, waste time overall weaker and inferior to castings. But Legacy WON'T change their wasteful methods or try and improve. Dr Herbert Diess knew this and VW sacked him. Now VW are closing German factories to build in China... rather than improve their prehistoric assembly methods. I would LOVE TO SEE LEGACY AUTO up their game... but they just will not and they are reaching their "kodak" moment... 48v and castings will be on all winning car brands within 10 years, regardless to what Tesla do or make next.

[@timscott3027]

50 grand is a lot of money though, I can't see too many of these being sold, I personally hate the look of it, it just looks fat and heavy.

[@nicholasrigg8999]

As others have mentioned, in the What Car triple test vs the new Tesla Model 3 and the BYD Seal, the ID.7 was last for real world experience and efficiency.

[@frank4u2dayn8]

The ID.7 is much bigger than a Model 3.

[@ciybersal3499]

BYD Seal is best

[@timmurphy5541]

The efficiency is good enough and the practicality is much better. That's what counts to me.

[@Noah_E]

It actually has some styling, unlike Tesla, but would never buy a VAG vehicle unless they significant steps to treat consumers and independent repair shops better. Their anti-right to repair stance makes them a nonstarter. Even if you can overlook the cost cutting that wasn't passed down to consumers. A neighbor has an ID.4, and the word that comes to mind for everything you interact with is CHEAP.

[@PeterSweden-qw8dy]

If you ask the question of you would choose a ID7 over Tesla modelY or BYD. 100%. Tesla is tesla. Best infotainmentsystem and best charging-capabilities. Have issues though. BYD is not in the same league - can’t trust the chinease infotainmentsystem and 10% might plummit down to 0% in an instant. Same with the MG. Also just feels cheap. ID7 is, by far, the best car I’v driven. Could be better? A bit to long(no notice while handling, VW topclass, but in tight spaces). Voice-command is failure. Could be a bit more effecient in kW per distance. But better than alot of cars out there.

[@grahamwort6969]

This is a missed open goal. It looks great on the outside, but the patchy interior quality that has plagued VW recently still exists and while the software on the infotainment screen is better, the "tappy, tappy, slidey, slidey" temperature and ventilation controls, along with the touch sensitive steering wheel controls remain awful to use. The two main problems though are: price (starting around £55k) and the efficiency - the claimed range is a complete work of fiction. 2.8 miles per kwh is about the most achievable, which puts real world range at sub 300 miles. Simply not good enough.

[@bullshitbingo2259]

People are complaining about the very decent interior of the ID.7 but so many are hyping any Tesla, or EVs like the Volvo EX30 for no reason at the same time. Doesn't make sense. Everyone who sat inside an ID.7 knows that the interior is great. Price is high but still reasonable if you compare it to the competition. Range is very decent, there are even many test videos out there which praise the efficiency. Highway consumption is like 19kWh/100km at 120km/h (75mph) average speed. The 86kWh net battery should be good for 560km mix use range (350 miles) and 450km pure highway driving in the real world. The smaller 77kWh battery, the same size which you can get in an ID3, is still good for 400km (250 miles) of pure highway driving.

​@@bullshitbingo2259exactly. On the channel Battery life he did 300 km driving 130km/h in the winter conditions. No heat pump

[@th42]

Looking at TESLA at the moment it feels like only a fool would buy new atm.

[@mikafiltenborg7572]

😂Tesla model Y will be the most sold carmodel on planet Earth in year 2024

[@jayb0nd007]

I got the 2023 VW id4 pro s rwd with 279 miles range if I drive in freezing cold I get close to 200 miles range I can't wait for the lease to be over so i Can buy a Hybrid car with 500 to 600 miles range.... too much time gets wasted for charging.... Electricity is cheaper than gasoline but electric cars are more expensive than a gasoline car so the extra money you pay for an electric car you save that with a gasoline car and pay more for gasoline so the price difference won't be that much

[@SuperAti15]

Which Tesla does it suppose to beat? Given that iD 3 is more expensive than TM3 / this one is gonna cost like two Model X es 😅 And then VW boss is gonna make announcement they still loose money on every piece sold actually 😜

[@andycanon1]

The main issue with the VW is software. I won’t be surprised if all future updates including 4.x and above still need a visit to the dealership. My ID 4 has been in twice for updates and they took ten and eight days for the tech to finally get the car to accept the update. Compare that to Tesla that takes 25 minutes.

[@sammyjjoo]

Looks like the Toyota Camry?!

[@MrRoachaldo]

VW seemed to have given up on design on its electric cars. Externally this looks anonymous like it would fit right into a US Hire fleet like a Toyota Camry.

[@anjoLas]

Better quality than Tesla: check Cheaper than Tesla: check Cheaper maintenance: check Germany engineering: check

[@andrazlogar861]

Is it cheaper than tesla?

[@anjoLas]

@@andrazlogar861 Than a Tesla X ? You ok in that brain ?

[@andrazlogar861]

@@anjoLas this is not X competitor. Its between 3 and S.

[@anthonyworley2891]

To me it is very VW not ID so a good thing? Choice is a good thing and it’s not the default SUV so that’s good. Price is not so good from £55k ? Against a model y from £44k it’s going to struggle. It’s a VW so they will sell but not in any number that will worry Tesla or any Chinese brand especially BYD.

[@BMWHP2]

The ID 7 will never be the EV that pulls VW out of the EV-gutter. Germany cant produce affordable EV's (sub €25k) with a decent 320km range, LFP battery and 100kW charging. BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Audi and VW, are all way overpriced for the masses. This ID.7 wont be different. Stellantis will take that sub €25k market with the Citroën ë-C3 and the Renault R5 E-Tech. Both with a usable range, 100kW charging and solid modern LFP batteries. Whehn they dont change their tune, the German car industry will fade away into a niche market.