The New 2025 Subaru Forester is the Vehicle Your Dog Has Waited fFor

[@DrivenCarReviews]

CORRECTION- In the video I say the passenger seat is manual, meant to say doesn't get memory. It does get power adjustments. And the front seats are vented. Something I left out.

[@gregjones1867]

"See the trees through the Forester" Good line there buddy!

[@billlyl3725]

Honestly Tom, that closing advice was so good. Save up and get what you love, then enjoy and take care of it for a good, long time. 👍

[@alexmobil7463]

My wife complains that i m the only person on this world who is still wearing old but in a grate and good shape shirts and old fadet Lewis! But since i forced her to see this video Tom she was surprised to see a nice guy like you thinking and acting like her husband! Thanks for your nice video and your golden attitude! You simply cant imagine how helpfull and supportive your opinion is about a car or even about the life style on these crazy times!

[@tedunguent156]

I went to a party recently wearing a shirt that I have owned for 28 years. Everyone complimented the shirt as it looks, literally, brand new. None of them had ever seen me wear it before.

[@dylanblake7807]

I rented a 2025 Forester for two days in green. This is the best city run about I’ve ever driven! Easy to park in tight spaces. Great over potholes and light rail tracks! We don’t all like going to trails. I prefer hiking to Starbucks and Panera. I will be buying this over the Ascent and Outback XT.

[@RunningLdy]

Which rental company has Foresters in their fleet?!

[@RichardShelton]

We have a 2011 Outback, 6 cyl., with not even 60K miles. I doubt we'll ever get rid of it. Subaru rocks.

[@josemanuelruiz2036]

@@RichardShelton 2011 and not even 60K?!

[@LKWDITE]

Same model and year with us - a few thousand more miles tho. My wife is really in love with it and I don't know if she will ever give it up. I may have to trade in my almost 6 year old 2019 Ascent Touring with 16,500 miles if we intend to buy something like a 2026 new design Outback.

[@faceup5]

I really appreciate your (you AND Martin) style of reviewing. It's great to see the Forester continuing on and "trying" to keep up with the current bunch of capable and dependable smallish SUVs. as a busy, gigging musician, I always appreciated the low load-in level and almost totally flat cargo area and capacity. Big pluses there! Visibility was also always great and the AWD system with a good set of snow tires was unstoppable in the winters of the Northeast. Okay, time for some honesty. Three misses for me are lack of comparable power (no turbo), uncomfortable seats on long drives and the CVT. For $41K, I think there are better options but I do believe that Subaru has a very loyal customer base and I have no doubt these will continue to sell well.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

FWIW, I didn't mention the seats are reworked.

[@LVRaven610]

Geat work as usual, Tom! I agree that a hybrid is sorely needed... but, a PHEV would be a real home run... (Just sayin'). BTW - I finally gave Martin a follow! I would have done it sooner but, I couldn't remember his account name either! ;)

[@DrivenCarReviews]

I thought it was hilarious that he doesn't know it. But then I realized I remembered mine wrong...

[@corysekine-pettite1783]

I drove the 2025 Forester for two weeks while my old Outback was getting new carpet (long story). The updated model was great to drive, but a lot stiffer and bouncier on rough roads and speed bumps when compared to my Outback. But visibility was incredible, and the interior was really nice. My only gripe was the auto stop/start restetting each time you turned off the engine. That should be a permanent driver option to shut off.

[@aaronraines3375]

Nice work amigo, im driving a 2016 s limited Forester here in NZ 1st owner from Japan. All i do is drive on the beach & it always finds me the endless wave! Kia ora my friend/s!!!

[@tedunguent156]

I also have clothes like that shirt. Bought them 25 - 30 years ago and they show (virtually) NO wear and tear because they were heirloom quality when new. I also wear cheap stuff from day to day which has kept the MILEAGE down on the good stuff. Great minds think alike, Tom. Thanks to you and Martin for all of your hard work.

[@X2p5423videolover]

Great video Tom as always. very timely for my family. We are planning to test driving one tomorrow. Keep up the good work 👏.

[@DataWiseLtd]

I use shift paddles a lot esp when going down steep roads to save brake pads. Great off road as well.

[@KD-lb9bg]

I really like the new Forester, but I will be waiting until the hybrid is released and I’m very anxious to see the Wilderness trim level. Great review, thank you very much.

[@cuddlepoo11]

Adjusting for inflation, car are no more expensive now than 20 years ago and are better made.

[@gregs4163]

Nice review! I bought a 25 Forester Touring and I absolutely love it!

[@madlucio70]

I cannot wait to see you review the "strong hybrid" Crosstrek whenever it becomes available in the West (Hopefully 2026). I am really looking forward to it.

[@jamesstuart3346]

I bought the car I loved in 2003, a Pontiac Vibe. I am still loving it. I guess you can say I'm automonogamous

[@TinLeadHammer]

I wish I bought a Toyota Matrix back then. There were some good cars in the early 2000s like the Matrix and the Honda Element.

[@LalanthaPerera-ns1ue]

I absolutely love the Subaru Forester!!! It's one of my favourite SUV's!!! And this 2025 model is no exception!!! And I absolutely love this Touring trim!!! As always a great video Mr. Voelk!!!

[@PBandJ25]

This is very tempting. I go back and forth between a sedan and a crossover. But this video gives me a lot of detail to look at when I;m at the auto show. Thanks, Tom.

[@joyhollister7449]

I absolutely love love love my 2025 Forester. Trim model is premium. Has plenty in it, looks great and rides smooth. This is my 3rd and will always buy a Subaru.

[@R9000S]

@@joyhollister7449it’s super comfy seats, speakers bang. Love the visibility. AWD. And safety auto lane features

[@COSolar6419]

We were loyal Subaru Forester owners for 22 years. Had a hybrid version been available when it came time to replace it, we would have gotten one. We ended up with an all electric vehicle (not a Solterra). I doubt we’d go back to a Forester even if Subaru had a hybrid version.

[@0HOON0]

What EV did you opt for and how does it compare to the Forester?

[@COSolar6419]

@ Ioniq 5 AWD. The I5 has the quiet smooth ride and quick acceleration of an EV. The outside dimensions are a bit larger than our Forester but has much more interior passenger room. It doesn’t have the ground clearance of the Forester but does have lots of helpful safety features. The build quality seems comparable to our Subaru and the standard warranty is better than most.

[@user-tk7km1sr7e]

Pleiades is an asterism in the constellation Taurus 😊

[@homeplate60613]

Visibility is great except for the view out the front window…that eyesight camera module cuts quite a bit of your view of the mountains that Subaru Forester can take you too so effortlessly.

[@717dash_cam]

I never used the paddles to up-shift... but did use them for engine braking. Love my Solterra, hopefully one of the new EVs they come out with has better range, faster charging, and an actually utilitarian hatch.

[@CarnivalVincy]

The paddle shifters are great for gearing down if you’ve long past your brake service appointment.

[@JDelta87]

What a carefully crafted review of the new Forester, Tom. Also, Mr. Campbell not remembering the name of his social media page gave me a good laugh.

[@rustlesee]

06:30, it’s great in snow. Using some engine braking to go down a hill. Gives you control, without having to use the brakes.. which sometimes isn’t great in winter conditions.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Tires. Tires are important.

[@curtganeles925]

Wouldn’t be a Subaru (or perhaps Porsche) video without the ‘pistons firing’ hand gestures. As always, thanks Tom!

[@jeffer1101]

The upcoming hybrid model (which I think is supposed to come out later next year) should address most issues. It will use the Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive system mated to Subaru's boxer 2.5L engine and will retain a physical connection to the rear axle (for Symmetrical AWD). This current model is already competitive in terms of fuel economy, but the hybrid will improve that and keep it competitive with other options in the market that are also hybrids. The hybrid will also add another 30-40 HP so that might appease the crowd who want a bit more power. It will also use an eCVT so gone will be the chain driven CVT in gas only models. The Forester is solid product in the segment (not without its flaws), but well priced, well equipped and well made. Maintain it well and you'll enjoy many years of trouble free ownership. It's one of the reasons this brand has among the highest resale value and customer loyalty. The new hybrid model will take everything up a notch and likely be the one to buy when it becomes available.

[@RunningLdy]

Any idea what material they'll use on the seats?

[@jeffer1101]

@@RunningLdy I assume the materials will stay similar to current trims. Cloth on lower trims, StarTex all-weather material on "off road" oriented trims and leather in top trims.

[@RunningLdy]

@@jeffer1101 specifically for the hybrid though! Trying to steer as clear as possible from leather so hoping the hybrid is startex or cloth - have you heard anything?

[@jeffer1101]

@@RunningLdy I haven't heard about that, but I would imagine there will be a good option for you in that regard.

[@bkstarkey]

Use my paddles on my 16 legacy to downshift a ton. Saves on the breaks and works really well.

[@tommihelich2613]

Pleiades is a star cluster in the Taurus Constellation. Not a constellation in and of itself. Somewhat near Orion if you can find that. And this thing is as big as my RAV4. I remember when Foresters were relatively small; back when the RAV4 was too I guess.

[@sinistarmr2]

Yes, the new Forester is looking more like a popular SUV from that other brand that also has a blue oval, but Subaru has made an attractive vehicle here, especially with the interior shown in the model for this video. The only thing that puts me off is the emphasis of controls in the touchscreen unit over physical buttons and dials. IMO Subaru had it just right in the previous generation. Anyway, great presentation and I appreciate the overall common sense approach in this video and all the others I've seen so far on this channel. 👍

[@muskistutter]

@3:15 what a great camera view with that backdrop Tom!

[@stephenwinter8892]

Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I am waiting for the subaru forester wilderness edition thanks for sharing this video

[@GetOffMyyLawn]

I held on to my 2013 Outback for a few extra years, and got a 2024 Outback a few months ago. During the shortages all of the other dealers were overcharging for their inventory... but the Subaru dealers near me kept their prices at msrp and didn't have crazy add on stuff like nitrogen filled tires and door handle cups for $500. When the time was right, I picked mine up for $3000 under msrp. The only competition for me was Mazda and Toyota... but the interior quality of the Outback won out.

[@vicenteferrazpacheconeto6503]

I'd easily go for it! Thanks for another special video. Driven is the best!

[@josemanuelruiz2036]

Good car if you are raising a family. I already passed that phase.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

We have also but still a great car in general for road trips, and anything really unless you must have something of a smaller size for daily tight parking.

[@realjohnboxall]

Great review. Love our 23 Forester, the problem is that it's so good, the only reason to upgrade would be if Subaru offered the 2.4 Turbo engine (we're in Australia).

[@markorchard4080]

Great review as usual Tom. I appreciate the photography and editing. I use the paddles in my '24 Outback XT on long hills to hold 4th or 5th gear. It stops the transmission from too much changing "up" that can sap power when the climb suddenly intensifies.

[@eganfo]

I got a 2024 Sport, this looks very nice. I’m eager for the hybrid Forester to arrive late next year.

[@bambamyong]

Needs more POWAAAA!!!

[@ctclardy]

I think the Forester is one of the best cars on the road and would consider one except for one thing. Its engine is far too anemic for me. I want something that won't choke out when going up a steep on-ramp to merge into traffic, something that will allow me to pass another vehicle on a 2-lane road without having to hold my breath hoping I won't meet an oncoming vehicle, and something that will be able to go up into the mountains around me effortlessly... I'll wait for the hybrid version with hopes it will be somewhat more powerful... I don't need their turbo power but it would be a better alternative than the base engine.

[@0HOON0]

It's true unfortunately. My '21 has a difficult timing passing trucks when loaded down with the whole family+stuff. More sedate drivers will find the power to be adequate.

[@gregs4163]

It's no race car but I have no problem merging or passing when I need to. I test drove other suv's in it's class and found the power comparable to it competition. Test drive one and see for yourself! I don't understand why everyone thinks it's so under-powered? The first thing I observe when I see reviews is everyone floors the throttle, that is the worst thing you can do with a cvt for acceleration and power transfer.

[@ctclardy]

@@gregs4163 I did test drive one and was totally underwhelmed.

[@GarrettWorcester]

6:41-The bane of my rental car existence: a car with Auto Stop/Start that acts like it's about to leave me stranded when it attempts to restart (and the annoying fact that I can't disable it "permanently" while I'm renting the car).

[@yokoreia]

I still have 2007 model, best looking and most practical car for city and suburban

[@michaelvella8511]

This is nice except maybe for the touch screen. Your videos are very well done.

[@0HOON0]

The previous generation's medium size screen + knobs is the best setup.

[@sig_7760]

Thanks Tom!

[@d.j.j.g]

So good of you to point out that the six stars in the Subaru logo represent the star cluster Pleiades! The funny thing is that there are seven sisters, not six, here in the West. But the Japanese term "Subaru," or "Six Stars," was the lovely name Mr. Kenji Kita wanted for his new car company. One of the sisters, Maia, even comes down to visit the Banks children in the original "Mary Poppins" children's book (1934), by P. L. Travers. In the Greek myth, the sisters are the children of Atlas (he's a star there too) and Pleione (she's a star as well). But they don't drive, so I hear.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

There's a saying that the 7th star is Toyota hiding.

[@marinusmourik9494]

I wished we could by the Forester for these prices, unfortunately prices in The Netherlands are outrageous thanks to the tax system. The cheapest one starts at around €72000,00........ and with only a 2ltr engine with mild hybrid. I'll stay with my Outback for some years. Refreshing way of making the video, thank you.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Yes, and Americans complain about the price of cars. If they only paid attention...

[@davidnjuguna9477]

@4:45 The reason why anyone over 40 would love the Forester and Outback. Low-key runaround for the plutocrats.

[@robertgloverjr]

2025 Forester Touring interior mirror does not have Homelink (to open/close garage door). Subaru charges $762 to put a Homelink equipped mirror into 2025 Forester Touring taken from their Ascent model. This should be a deal breaker for most people.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Most people? Do you mean "most people with a garage with a powered door"?

[@robertgloverjr]

@ Homelink has three programmable buttons. Garage door opener is just one example. Homelink can also be programmed to turn on/off lights, etc. The 2021 Forrester Touring had Homelink as an availble option. There are so many complaints that Subaru sent letters to dealors authorizing selling Ascent's Homelink mirror to 2025 Forrester Touring owners for a "reduced price" of $762 including labor. 2023 Outback Touring has Homelink option.

[@robertgloverjr]

The 2025 Subaru Forester Touring which is the top-of-the-line model for the Forester, does not offer HomeLink as a standard or optional feature. This is a notable omission, as HomeLink is typically expected in higher-end trims. This has been a point of frustration for some buyers, as lower trims of the Forester do offer HomeLink as an option

[@andrewhoult]

We've got the e-boxer 2.0 hybrid in Europe, got a 2019 forester hybrid myself, it's nothing to shout about really. Theres very little if any difference in mpg between the plain engined one and the hybrid currently. It needs to be a much larger battery perhaps with plug in charge for it to be effective, those who hate stop/start will probably just be annoyed by it. All that said, it is a fairly reliable car nowadays, so long as the CVT fluid is changed every 30k miles (find a dealership that will do this and maintain warranty or don't buy one, ignore the cvt fluid for life nonsense, its expensive for 12 litres or so of cvt fluid -genuine subaru stuff comes in a 20 litre drum-but cheaper than a gearbox) and the engine oil every 6k miles, diff oil every 12k miles or so then it'll last a long time, especially the non turbo versions. The biggest advantage is when it snows, this car then comes into its element, very few vehicles can compare with it, certainly nothing in its price range. They are insanely expensive here in the UK though, well over £40000 ($52000) new even back in 2019. Bought mine used at 5 years old 24k miles for half that and I still think its on the pricey side. All that said though, it remains one of the most competent AWD cars around and its made in Japan if bought in the UK. I believe the US hybrid will be using a toyota e-CVT though so could be worth keeping an eye out for.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

The new hybrid will completely different FWIW

[@calebwoods9358]

The biggest takeaways for me is that there are actual guages in the gauge pod in a 2025 vehicle.

[@denault3985]

Still not a pretty SUV inside and out but it works...I still enjoy the Golden Retrievers and Labrador Retriever in their commercials. Noticed that you havn't talked or spoken about the new Scout EV by a VW subsidiary.

[@DrivenCarReviews]

As for Scout, there's nothing for me to cover. I do videos that require a real vehicle to assess and right now all it has are a few concepts. So I'll let other gush about what may or may not happen.

[@lilianm7151]

When will the Wilderness follow and especially hybrid?

[@baldheadlogic]

Kind of surprised that the Touring does not offer front seat ventilation or even a powered seat on the passenger side.

[@gregs4163]

The Touring does have front ventilated seats and the front passenger seat is powered, It is 8 way vs the driver's 10 way

[@DrivenCarReviews]

It does offer venting, I didn't mention it. And my bad on the passenger side, it offers power as well, but no memory.

[@BucksMom218]

It was too small for my dog- we ditched the Forester and got an OBW. 🥰🐾🐾🥶😎

[@ksorsomeplace]

Counterpoint: They've been building cars now for over 100 years. Methods and processes are well honed to keep costs to a minimum. The price of a vehicle should be steady if not dropping slightly. Carryover engines, transmissions, etc. Suppliers supplying many assembly lines spreading their costs over every component supplied. Lastly, vehicles (a number of models) have taken very visible price increases for no changes (more or less) such as the Mustang GT while the Ecoboost variant hardly any movement in its price. I agree with you in that vehicles have always been expensive, but they were once much better buys than they are today. Look, you got some 22 colors on your Ford F-150...now only 5 on the King Ranch trim. Yet the price has ballooned tremendously.

[@GetOffMyyLawn]

Every company tries to make more money over their previous years profits. The can cut costs by improving factory efficiency, but just like you and I... they are paying more for parts, labor and materials due to inflation... so prices go up.

[@AB-jk7tw]

With a badly needed smoother and more powerful engine, this would be a segment leader.

[@westhavenor9513]

Wow, excellent advice at the end!

[@witsendcottage595]

Needs a doggy window on the rear hatch. HUD would be great too...

[@hershlawfirmpc]

‘Schmutzy roads’ 😊

[@RunningLdy]

Loved that too!!

[@shenderson15]

I miss the green/yellow/red light breakdown

[@sinoevc]

一个非常情绪化的评价。Forester 真的很棒，我真的很喜欢它

[@davidmurphy2960]

I love my 2016 Forester TURBO! Bring back the turbo! Front suspension needs to be double wishbone. CVs and diffs wear faster when you go offroad on A/T tyres.

[@westhavenor9513]

I test drove the turbo, a of couple times. Can't believe it was that long ago! There just wasn't much extra oomph there, really. Ended up buying a used BMW AWD 3-series, two of them actually. Still have both, one gas and one diesel. But I still love Subaru--have owned several over the years, going back to my 1980's Brat in college.

[@jazzjokesjalopies]

Like the seat color and latest screen.

[@slimsloth243]

Great review as always... by the way, nice shirt.

[@Tarken10]

Is there any drawback to having such low-profile 50R sidewall tires? I like the 235 width, but I wonder what effect rocky dirt roads and paved roads with potholes will have on the tires and wheels. Because I know nothing about car tires, I'll ask if those Bridgestone Turanza All-Season tires are good performers, if you know.

[@RogerSutton-ik9fj]

Turanzas are excellent as I belted them off-road and towing on a Zook SX4 4WD no problems with good mileage.

[@themightymrpink]

I haven’t watched your reviews in quite some time. Nice to see you still uploading high quality car reviews as always! Do you have plans to review the updated 2025 Chevrolet Suburban?

[@ThePhotographyHobbyist]

2:55 Ah, a car review in Twin Peaks. Nice :-)

[@gregjones1867]

You cant really appreciate what the Forester has to offer until you drive one.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Doesn't really feel large but recently happened to park next to a gen 1 and then you can really see the difference. But everything is just larger now, unnecessarily.

[@romeotee]

I wish i had the money to buy all the cars you review

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Also, budget for garage space.

[@amrashraf9559]

@@DrivenCarReviewswould you please the all new kia sportage 2025 ? The one with the new gearbox

[@paulbegemann4308]

As someone with two larger dogs this should really appeal to me I just can't get over how dull and slow they are to drive. They really need to ditch the opposed engine but then what would they be?

[@Tmrfe0962]

I’ve owned a few, my complaint is the interior is small, but it is after all a compact.

[@janicemunn]

No teasing Martin!😂

[@MNsaint]

Congratulations on another great video and on being able to still fit into a 30 year old shirt! 😁

[@JarmelSingsKaraoke]

Happy Tuesday

[@lancekoz]

Is there any advantage (speedwise) to using the sim-shift paddles, or are they only for making some sporty noise? That is, can you achieve a better 0-60 by high revving it, or does the CVT always know best?

[@DrivenCarReviews]

I think the programing knows best, it's not like a good driver could slash a second off 0-60 with paddles on this. Useful for engine braking I suppose and in some off road situations.

[@atmartens]

My wife and I have 2021 Legacy and Outback. She has the 2.5 in her Outback and for her, she loves the car. I find it extremely under powered. I can only hope that the Forester will get more power in the hybrid. I got my Touring Legacy because the 2.4 turbo is much quicker and confident.

[@Niro.C]

The Forester is built in the USA ?

[@pappaslivery]

My mom has a '17 that i drive from time to time. Im not much of an suv person and am looking at an outback....but i might just hold out to see whats coming with the hybrid

[@paul8699]

Push button means you get remote start, and there's a PIN-code unlock in the tailgate. I think every reviewer misses those.

[@tomfaz4193]

I really wanted to like the new Forester but I don't need a flat screen TV on my dashboard or a panromantic sunroof that may leak with age. I prefer the safer approach Honda an Toyota have by keeping physical controls separate than their touchpad functions like navigation and audio.

[@JY__L]

I picked Outback over the Forester since I had a Crosstrek before. However, I found that the 2024 Outback Onyx has worse build quality than my previous 2021 Crosstrek. The soft-touch seat cover had a scratch from day one and the driver-side mirror rattles a lot, later I was told by the dealer the rattling is normal as the other brand new Outback's mirror also rattles...

[@DrivenCarReviews]

I would ask for a seat cover replacement and have them fix the rattle. That's not right.

[@JY__L]

@ Yes, the seat cover was inspected and replaced with no questions. But the rattle is still there. I don’t worry too much as it is a lease car so I will not keep it at the end for sure. But Subaru is going cheap build quality, I might try other brands when the lease ends.

[@lancekoz]

I've always been confused... is there a big difference in who the Forester or the Outback is directed at? Is the Outback still around?

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Yup, still going strong. Word on the street is the next one will be more SUV less wagon.

[@ahughan]

Great review as always. Wink to the Subaru target market 😉. What do you with the two-ply after the review? Donate to a good cause? Thank you for what you do

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Here ya go... kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2jafZeOh9edmZI

[@ahughan]

@@DrivenCarReviews thanks Tom.

[@DavidDLee]

Buy the cheapest, most reliable, fun to drive and efficient car you will be OK driving for a long time. Then, retire sooner or invest in your or your family's future. Cars are not investments, to be clear.

[@johnsplitt6727]

Isn't the ASS default able to be switched to off on start-up on this model?

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Federal law means it resets after shutting down.

[@brianhind6149]

Did I hear you say that a six speed manual transmission available ?

[@DrivenCarReviews]

You did not.

[@BlueBook1970]

Would a full-size spare fit in the spare well?

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Don't know, I only peeked to check if there was a physical spare.

[@JoeSteelOfficial]

Well, when it comes to do a full stop and emergency call, just because i don't do what the car is forcing me to, i'm out. I think i keep my 2011 Forester for another while.

[@davids1816]

Subarus always have something about them that just looks off. This one is no different but is nice looking for a Subaru. 41k feels too expensive since a very plush Sportage Hybrid (at least when we bought) is cheaper and uses less fuel while also having more power. And that's really my only complaint - this should be a hybrid with better acceleration and economy. Otherwise, it's fine for the people who like them. The interior is also nice.

[@keithbrown9512]

I waited for the 2025 and ended up getting a new 2024 because of no 2025 wilderness model. Hopefully they do because I think it would be a big mistake.

[@witsendcottage595]

HUD available? Needs better sound insulation

[@0HOON0]

No. // And yes is does, although the noise level is better than the last gen.

[@kresimirkalman6113]

shirt is great

[@RunningLdy]

Is the body roll and under steer better in a CRV?

[@DrivenCarReviews]

It’s been too long since I’ve driven the Honda so can’t be accurate with that. My guesstimate is the Honda has a smidge less roll.

[@RunningLdy]

@ thanks. Car and driver did a road test - weaving this through cones on a track at high speed and it has lots of roll, but I thought the boxer engine was supposed to offset some of the roll. Weird out of class question but I wonder if a BMW X3 has less roll? Deciding between a new '25 forester sport and a 2022 X3 xDrive 30i (which ends up being 2-3k less expensive than the Forester!)

[@TheCarboy1]

My wife really wants to know, what brand of shirt is that? Can you still buy it today?

[@DrivenCarReviews]

Ha! No, it really is super old (but will probably go another 30 years). It's Eddie Bauer, when stuff was made in Seattle. Next best thing would be Filson.

[@TheCarboy1]

@DrivenCarReviews Nice! I had a favorite hoodie that I wore for 15-20 years. It had a lot of holes but was super comfy. One day it was gone and I think my wife threw it away. To this day I'm still looking for it...

[@blake343]

It looks good as a whole but those front shots look very much like a ford edge

[@MiggyZ-88]

Yup, ONLY when it's dirty. Subaru has gone from understated elegance from the past to Clueless design in the present.

[@DM-fv7hw]

I always use the shift paddles in our Santa Fe 2.5T and used them in our Outback, especially going down hill.