Lexus Teammate Is A Techie Copilot (And Doesn't Hog The Fries)

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Driven Car Reviews With Tom Voelk

Driven Car Reviews With Tom Voelk

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@e.o9470
@e.o9470 3 жыл бұрын
That’s an engineer we all want to listen for hours! very clear and informative talk
@EngineerZX
@EngineerZX 3 жыл бұрын
So let me get it right.... 1- I use the signal lever then 2- I wait till the car acknowledges the lane change, 3- I have to hold the steering wheel, 4- I need to look at the side mirror !! it seems better if I do it myself
@banstaman
@banstaman 3 жыл бұрын
From the videos I have seen, I like the idea that Teammate prevents the driver from getting complacent and relying entirely on the system however, I believe they could have taken a better approach than constantly beeping and making announcements. That immediately negates and stress/fatigue-relief that these systems provide.
@M1911jln
@M1911jln 3 жыл бұрын
"I think there are some companies that are not as careful in their communication as they ought to be about that." I agree 110%. Looking at you, Elon.
@mrphilbert1
@mrphilbert1 3 жыл бұрын
You'll need this while reading the encyclopedic owners manual.
@RatKing59
@RatKing59 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so heavy they legally have to include it in the curb weight of the car
@neelkrishna
@neelkrishna 3 жыл бұрын
It’s only a prototype but the system seems incredibly annoying lol, switching from fingers on to hands free every 5 seconds
@ahmedsyed3436
@ahmedsyed3436 3 жыл бұрын
Beep beep you put your hands .. and then few seconds later … now I’m hands free. 🤣 - how can I say politely - “ridiculous”
@davidc8735
@davidc8735 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent overview, and Mr. Williamsen represents Lexus exquisitely.
@snailguy5565
@snailguy5565 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Tom! This system as it currently stands will do well in Japan, but will probably not translate well to America (no pun intended). Most Japanese customers have an established relationship with their dealership salesman, and will spend hours at delivery learning about every detailed feature, so a system like Teammate with a relatively high learning curve will not be an issue.
@blueryxfalls7949
@blueryxfalls7949 3 жыл бұрын
in japan they have killer public transport, I don't see why bother with this
@ckite63
@ckite63 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Japan for the majority of the year. The Lexus system might work on national expressways, but would have limited use on highways anywhere near urban centers or local roads. The traffic in Japan generally is too crowded for such a system to take the stress out of driving in that environment.
@sig_7760
@sig_7760 3 жыл бұрын
My wife is a better and slightly less annoying system
@Rogger_53
@Rogger_53 3 жыл бұрын
No thanks. What a horribly designed system, far far too complicated. I would much rather drive it myself than try to deal with all that garbage. Way to go Toyota (lexus)
@ecyfoto
@ecyfoto 3 жыл бұрын
Just because you can employ certain tech doesn’t mean you should. Just hold the wheel and drive.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 3 жыл бұрын
Tom, Congratulations on reaching 150,000 SUBSCRIBERS !!
@DrivenCarReviews
@DrivenCarReviews 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrivenCarReviews ;-)
@mynameIan
@mynameIan 3 жыл бұрын
The lidar is going to be utterly useless here in Canada during the winter months where the entire front of the vehicle will be caked in ice, snow and salt.
@CarStory
@CarStory 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. If the driver always has to look ahead and touch the wheel every so often, you might as well just drive without using it.
@yass123
@yass123 3 жыл бұрын
Look ma, no hands 🤣
@baldheadlogic
@baldheadlogic 3 жыл бұрын
Great Review on this Tech Tom!
@goochigoochs3836
@goochigoochs3836 3 жыл бұрын
Weird, I already do all of these on my 2021 Hyundai Sonata HDA (highway driving assist) except for the lane change but less annoying.
@DrivenCarReviews
@DrivenCarReviews 3 жыл бұрын
HDA assist is exceptionally good for a mainstream brand system. If you drove Super Cruise, BlueCruise or Teammate, you'd immediately understand the difference.
@goochigoochs3836
@goochigoochs3836 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrivenCarReviews Thanks I take your word for it since you've driven them all. Please keep up the good work and we enjoy your video and humor so much.
@DoctorSkillz
@DoctorSkillz 3 жыл бұрын
Tom, this is the Lexus touchpad interface (circa 2017) of the autonomous driving systems. Awful to use and not competitive.
@sapphirebluegabe
@sapphirebluegabe 3 жыл бұрын
I saw that exact car being tested on the freeway and at the Lexus Pavilion at the Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance!
@christopherprose3881
@christopherprose3881 3 жыл бұрын
The trouble I see with autonomous cars is mostly due to my suspicions that it won't happen on a large scale unless all cars are able to talk to each other. In other words, it won't be statistically safer unless all (or at least most) of the vehicles can sync with a system that is able to coordinate a path of progress to avoid both accidents and limit congestion and traffic jams. I live in Northern California and I can't use cruise control for any length of time even when I am in a long open stretch of the freeway. People are just driving too inconsistently and erratically. Speed limits are often ignored. I just have to cancel it eventually and go manual. As a result, I don't give it any consideration when I buy a new car when it come to such tech. It's practically useless to me in the real world. Also, it just might give too many people just one more reason not to pay attention to the road or engage in the vital act of driving. Is that a good thing?
@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938
@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938 3 жыл бұрын
This is the missing piece right here...your car will need V2V and V2I to make true level 4 and level 5 self driving cars. This was discussed a decade ago, but it seems to be off the table again. Till we get back to this...and use a universal standard...we will be stuck.
@salilgupte4507
@salilgupte4507 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand...this seems well behind SuperCruise and it is coming out 5 years later. Why even bother?
@ksorsomeplace
@ksorsomeplace 3 жыл бұрын
Did they mention an approximate cost to the buyer for the system?
@PaulHo
@PaulHo 3 жыл бұрын
I want to know what happens if it wants to change lanes but you don't authorize it or look in the mirror. Will it just keep going straight? Will it reroute?
@MonadTransformer
@MonadTransformer 2 жыл бұрын
This "let me tell you how to drive your car" thing does not seem very useful... Either the human or the machine should drive, not both. It's like having a second novice driver in the other front seat with a second set of controls, and trying to communicate with them all the time. You can't hand the controls over to them because they are a horrible driver and can panic at any time, but when you try to drive it yourself, they keep telling you what to do.
@alwaysup22
@alwaysup22 3 жыл бұрын
Just watching this after the first few seconds the guy gets on the highway you can tell Lexus overcomplicated this and screwed it up. Might as well just drive and not deal with the gadgets if they are not ready for prime time...
@sheaellington7376
@sheaellington7376 3 жыл бұрын
As usual, Lexus coming out with a system that seems a decade out of date already....
@BearPapa49
@BearPapa49 3 жыл бұрын
And Toyota is selling it just like Honda 6 to 11,000.00 in markups . So good luck in getting a deal . All they say is no we won’t deduct or take off any monies . They’ll wait forever the next guy that comes along and pays it . Right now it definitely a sellers market!
@Warrior11117
@Warrior11117 3 жыл бұрын
Everything will die down once people stop receiving free money. I’m not going to help these guys get rich like that
@matthewlibanio8227
@matthewlibanio8227 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool for a prototype. I did notice he took off his glasses. As with most systems it seems to have trouble with that. Not a nitpick, it's a prototype so it's fine. For now. But it is a conservative implementation. I would rather have Super Cruise though given Toyotas notorious need for extremely loud and irritating beeps and alerts. Hahaha. The last time I took my dad's RAV4 Hybrid through the carwash I nearly died of a heart attack with the car screaming and beeping like crazy. I think it too almost died of a heart attack. Hahaha!
@DrivenCarReviews
@DrivenCarReviews 3 жыл бұрын
That's called the free market economy. It's very American. Dealerships (not Toyota or Honda) set the price people pay by discounting or jacking up the price.
@afa6361
@afa6361 3 жыл бұрын
We will soon need to have a PhD degree in IT and be a lawyer in order to drive a fancy vehicle. I will keep my LS430 for as many more years as I can.
@MrLew1965
@MrLew1965 2 жыл бұрын
Taking the Fun out of driving is all I'm seeing here !!
@nintendoatarikiller
@nintendoatarikiller 3 жыл бұрын
0:06 SAAB!
@AlisonAZ
@AlisonAZ 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting . . . but I like to drive. My two questions are: What does it do to override my loud music? How long will this complicated system last?
@samp.1579
@samp.1579 3 жыл бұрын
Concept of the technology is great! But the redundancy of keeping fingers and hands on the wheel is annoying and not well executed. Great review though! You should do one of Mercedes-Benz and BMW steering assist systems 😜
@831Adventures
@831Adventures 3 жыл бұрын
Shiz this system probably more aggravating then me driving it
@ktpinnacle
@ktpinnacle 3 жыл бұрын
I can't help but think that we are guinea pigs for these automatic driving technologies.
@sergeycorey378
@sergeycorey378 3 жыл бұрын
Easy solution, don’t buy cars with these obviously early prototype systems in them. I’m no fan of Teslas cars but their Autopilot is honesty years ahead of any competition, as this video is evidence. I understand people’s safety concerns with them, but Lexus’s system is downright annoying
@ktpinnacle
@ktpinnacle 3 жыл бұрын
@@sergeycorey378 Not that simple. Because we share the road with people that scoop them up and then think that they don't need to drive their cars anymore.
@bossadave
@bossadave 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine a 500 mile journey with that binging an binging every 300 yards. The sat nav would guide you to the nearest psychiatrist hospitals…
@bartwaggoner2000
@bartwaggoner2000 3 жыл бұрын
OMG so primitive and clunky and marginally useful compared to Tesla Autopilot (and I don’t mean FSD). Tom is a saint sitting through this folderol. This is similar to Sandy Munro with the Ford Bluecruise video.
@alwaysup22
@alwaysup22 3 жыл бұрын
I can do hands free in a 1995 Ford explorer... just let my hands go off the wheel for 2 seconds, then immediately put them back on. Seems like the same system based on how this is being used....
@russellstrom8234
@russellstrom8234 3 жыл бұрын
My 2018 Camry is just as good using comma ai openpilot
@Kevin27182
@Kevin27182 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty neat
@theMLBfan
@theMLBfan 3 жыл бұрын
10:53 your reaction was priceless 😂 Seriously though, this system is bad. Way too many stipulations to be useful at this point.
@usa1mac
@usa1mac 3 жыл бұрын
It appears to be about five years behind GM's Super Cruise.
@rickjames5998
@rickjames5998 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Volks evil twin looks kinda different today.
@downshiftpedal
@downshiftpedal 3 жыл бұрын
What the point when it ask for hands 🙌 on steering every so often say less than 45 seconds
@mohdfadhlimansor
@mohdfadhlimansor 3 жыл бұрын
is this a buick?
@robgrear1142
@robgrear1142 3 жыл бұрын
Why do people think auto-drive systems always work, 100% of the time? It is a machine...machines and computers make mistakes. No thanks, just let me drive. I trust me.
@bartwaggoner2000
@bartwaggoner2000 3 жыл бұрын
Also, why does nobody try this with dark sunglasses?
@smilingsatan
@smilingsatan 3 жыл бұрын
I love Lexus, but this is beyond ridiculous. What's next, find the sq root of 6344567 to engage cruise control?
@ruidiw212
@ruidiw212 3 жыл бұрын
the current implementation as is does not make me want to buy a Lexus in the near future....Tesla autopilot and openpilot are much less restricting and flexible with no less safety profile when used properly. it is particularly disappointing that lane change needs to be done at certain stretches of the freeway and not at on-ramps or exits, a system like this should at least have adequate cut-in detection
@441meatloaf
@441meatloaf 3 жыл бұрын
lexus borrowed some of these from subaru I see. Driver focus camera is the same as subaru.
@rickjames5998
@rickjames5998 3 жыл бұрын
The instructor almost sounds like Brian Cooley
@DrivenCarReviews
@DrivenCarReviews 3 жыл бұрын
True
@josech
@josech 3 жыл бұрын
Hans on, hands off… I’d just rather drive my car.
@cotyl939
@cotyl939 3 жыл бұрын
I'm too much of a control freak for hands-free driving. I'd get annoyed by the system and tell the car, "Hey Lexus, I'll do it my damn self". LOL GM's Super Cruise appears to be the better way to go if you want this option.
@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938
@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938 3 жыл бұрын
I guess by 2025 by 2030 for first level 4 self driving cars.
@biggmaki
@biggmaki 3 жыл бұрын
looks like no one will use it at all.. looks buggy
@StarryTemplar
@StarryTemplar 2 жыл бұрын
All those BMW, Lexus and Ford, GM they all at least 5 years behind Tesla :(
@DrivenCarReviews
@DrivenCarReviews 2 жыл бұрын
You just keep believing that. Teammate is clunky but Supercruise is terrific stuff.
@xioliq1212
@xioliq1212 3 жыл бұрын
Dun trust any automobile companies until it’s driving license free.
@beri232
@beri232 3 жыл бұрын
Late to the game again Lexus….. bravo. Insert slow clap…. My Genesis GV80 has this and their system works great. Cue the Hyundai bashing…. not that I care because it’s a fantastic automobile and I cross-shopped the RX350
@sergeycorey378
@sergeycorey378 3 жыл бұрын
Genesis and Hyundai’s system is very good from my limited time with them. Much more competitive than Lexus’s, disappointingly.
@beri232
@beri232 3 жыл бұрын
@@sergeycorey378 I agree 100%
@MoCowbell
@MoCowbell 3 жыл бұрын
Tom, I love your reviews, but to say GM's system is better than Tesla's is just silly. Similarly, to think we're years away from fully autonomous driving shows a lack of understanding of how exponential growth works. You are thinking linearly.
@josephstone2280
@josephstone2280 3 жыл бұрын
Way too complicated to use and this will only work on selected roads. LiDAR will also not work on roads under construction. They praise SuperCruise but these ally to that as well. I use AutoSteer on my Tesla everyday on my commute and it is wonderful on long trips. I love the LS 500h but this doesn’t make the drive less stressful.
@verynick
@verynick 3 жыл бұрын
Hyundai and GM already have these features years ago…and that’s by designed in Toyota’s part.
@DoctorSkillz
@DoctorSkillz 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry, but I’m unimpressed. What’s new or novel here? This seems like an incremental improvement. Perhaps the spokesperson didn’t make it obvious.
@clapon1907
@clapon1907 3 жыл бұрын
Something need to be done about the godawful looking headlights and grills
@bikebudha01
@bikebudha01 3 жыл бұрын
This is just 100% the wrong direction for our species. Driving a car can be done on an almost subconscious level. That people can't be bothered with the 'horror' of paying attention from point A to point B is utterly depressing. Wall-E is going to become the most accurate predictor of our future.
@Tmrfe0962
@Tmrfe0962 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Toyota doesn’t really wanna do this, so many steps to get the system to work, they’ve somehow made automated driving, more driver inclusive! Holy cow…
@JB-yw2im
@JB-yw2im 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny to me that Toyota/Lexus is literally one of the last major automakers to release some form of advanced driver assistance, and in typical Toyota fashion, they deliver a system that is overcomplicated, underwhelming, and one that lags behind pretty much any other maker. Also, for all the criticism of Tesla's brand name for its driver assistance system, anyone who's ever used Autopilot for more than 20 seconds will tell you that even if the name somehow confused you into thinking that the car was in fact fully automated will understand through 20 seconds of practical use that it is in reality an advanced driver's assistance system. Also, Tesla's system is infinitely easier to use and infinitely more flexible than this system, and moreover, I think Tesla's approach to a path to automation based on AI, machine learning and computer vision is the right approach since it removes the need for complicated third-party high-definition maps and will allow it to be used on almost all roads, not just highways.
@Curryolla
@Curryolla 3 жыл бұрын
As a Lexus RX450h owner and a Tesla Model Y owner (with Full-Self Driving Package), I've got to say this seems like a hassle to engage and deal with. So much beeping and bonging for nothing! Autopilot and Super Cruise are so much easier to deal with. I get that Tesla gets crap for calling it FSD, but I use it daily and would never buy a car without it!
@DrivenCarReviews
@DrivenCarReviews 3 жыл бұрын
I did observe it was much more hands off (pun intended) once a destination was put into the navi system.
@NeutralGenericUser
@NeutralGenericUser 3 жыл бұрын
This is much more advanced than Tesla's system, but Tesla doesn't care much about safety. Aren't they the only auto manufacturer who've had several fatalities due to their autonomous driving tech? Also, the way the guy is putting his fingers on the wheel is awkward. you can prob just put a finger on your lap and have it touch the wheel the entire time and it'd be fine.
@Curryolla
@Curryolla 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeutralGenericUser Tesla is the only manufacture that reporters like to report about to get views/clicks. Other car companies have had fatalities with their "autonomous technology" but, why would anyone care if a Hyundai or a Toyota got into a crash? Tesla has the hype and the public interest. As for this being more advanced...I strongly disagree but advanced is a matter of opinion. My Tesla works very well on city streets as well. And, I've seen the FSD Beta software videos and I'm extremely impressed with how the technology operates. In my personal car, lane changes look much smoother than this and unlike this system, my Tesla will respond to traffic lights and stop signs. Finally, Tesla not caring much about safety is an opinionated claim. Driving on Autopilot is like having a second set of eyes. I personally love having the system, but I don't abuse it like others. Frankly, I'd pick Tesla Autopilot over Lexus Teammate, but let's see how many Lexus models get this tech. Seems like only the top end LS is getting it now where any Tesla can get FSD (for $10k)!
@rhemy1
@rhemy1 3 жыл бұрын
Lexus seems needlessly complicated
@ronnardkoay570
@ronnardkoay570 3 жыл бұрын
such a lovely surprise to see a pride flag flying with Toyota's flag in Texas.
@evoemperor3776
@evoemperor3776 3 жыл бұрын
Get this car as your limo and save money by reducing the salary of your driver.
@moebees3060
@moebees3060 3 жыл бұрын
You like to throw shade on Tesla because you are so fucking far behind you are doomed.
@joegondo7985
@joegondo7985 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO..who in their right mind would opt for this..perhaps Elon☠️
@GuuiYae
@GuuiYae 3 жыл бұрын
when i hear the word prototype from Lexus, I’m already disappointed 😂. I’m already on the way to switch to Tesla.
@doncooper2344
@doncooper2344 3 жыл бұрын
Seems super kludgy. Too much back and forth with having to put your hands on the wheel, then take them off, then put them back on. Yuck. I'd rather just drive than deal with this all the time. And having to actually look in the side view mirror for the lane change is seems ridiculous. The car's sensors should be 10X better than the mirror, so why force the driver to use an inferior system? Just change lanes already. Toyota just got the interface and the system totally wrong.
@AbsolutMassager
@AbsolutMassager 3 жыл бұрын
If only they didn’t ruin the interior of the LS500 with the shitty slap on touch screen and removing the backlit Kiriko plastic piece that was to the right of the infotainment. I def won’t be buying a LS from Lexus anytime soon with that ugliness ruining the flow of the dash
@ram-ck7ti
@ram-ck7ti 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe Toyota/Lexus are this far behind the competition. The real slap in the face is that it's on a hybrid, not a FULL EV as the company continues to resist the adoption of EV's and keeps pushing hydrogen and their now antiquated hybrid system. Meanwhile, Ford, who only 2 years ago appeared to resist is now going full speed ahead with EV production and has made some impressive products. VW is still struggling to get their software working properly on their EV's and have taken a very conservative approach to them by having short range vehicles with slow 0-60 capabilities. But Toyota/Lexus has some serious catching up to do.
@JB-yw2im
@JB-yw2im 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@stuartatkins5425
@stuartatkins5425 3 жыл бұрын
Just the fact that this video is 18 minutes long tells me this technology is not quite ready for prime time.
@bbbt8090
@bbbt8090 3 жыл бұрын
My 2018 MDX does this haha, Lexus cant beat Tesla sorry. Keep to your reliability
@deniscdyck
@deniscdyck 3 жыл бұрын
Oh God! Changing lanes with this system is horrific. Why would anyone make something easy sooooo complicated? Also, the car seems to be unable to keep up with traffic (based on everybody overtaking on both sides of the car). This system appears to be extremely annoying to use and even more annoying to everyone around it.
@enycyoutubepremium5509
@enycyoutubepremium5509 3 жыл бұрын
This guy talks toooooooo much.
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