I would watch the crap out of an unlimited race series where engineers could go wild.
@RyanMcIntyre10 күн бұрын
You do, that’s F1 and MotoGP
@foxgaming76yt2410 күн бұрын
@@RyanMcIntyre Nah, that's nowhere near free to design whatever lol. Not that neither lack any sort of innovation, not that they're slow.
@foxgaming76yt2410 күн бұрын
I think that's the CanAm series btw lol, from back in the 70's and 80's lol
@tenningale10 күн бұрын
All the regs are heavily about safety, fair competition, cost control so it’s economically sustainable (big reason why CanAm failed), no pursuit of dangerous/impractical tech, ethical concerns… You'd just end up back with F1.
@poweroftheweez9 күн бұрын
These days it feels like I'm always looking forward to Pikes peak and Goodwood, to see cars like the McMurtry and Travis Pastrana's Subaru being run in anger. But i agree a league or series would be amazing.
@nigeldepledge379010 күн бұрын
This sounds an awful lot like the Red Bull X2010. Ground effects? Check. Fan? Check. 1600 hp? Check. Wheels enclosed in faring? Check. Enclosed cockpit? Er, no, apparently. Given that this project has taken 15 years, and it's now 2025, is it actually an evolution of the X2010 using more sophisticated CFD analysis?
@foxgaming76yt2410 күн бұрын
Yeah, makes me think....
@gaycha65898 күн бұрын
…which is in turn and interpretation of 70s F1,conceptual thinking. Gordon Murrays fan car. Gas turbines. Closed wheels. Etc. it’s the packaging.
@nigeldepledge37908 күн бұрын
@gaycha6589 - I don't recall any closed-wheel designs ever being in F1. What did I miss?
@@gaycha6589 - is that the one where they had a separate bodyshell for the high-speed circuits like Avus?
@quadrantalerror112110 күн бұрын
Get this man 30 million so he can build it
@mateagoston814510 күн бұрын
There are 1.3 million subscribers on this channel, all we need is everyone giving him 23 quid and off you go. :D
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks10 күн бұрын
It'll cost a lot more than that.
@fabr574710 күн бұрын
And 30 more million so he can buy an accent...
@MuppetsSh0w10 күн бұрын
It'll cost at the very least 300 million
@firstmkb10 күн бұрын
@@MuppetsSh0wbased on what?
@daviferreira21978 күн бұрын
There could be a "Formula Zero" race category, with those limitless cars that could race, but drive remotely, like a drone, using a Sim Cockpit. It would be interesting.
@althenea3 күн бұрын
only problem with remote cockpits would be input delay and desynchronization between the car and the controls (and the screen too).
@realElectroZap3 күн бұрын
@@althenea Maybe that could be the motivation to create faster connections, with the lowest input lag possible and stuff. Communication innovation along with car innovation
@amaizen48173 күн бұрын
@@althenea i mean FPV drones are getting around pretty well, in the middle of the city might be a problem but somewhere remote might actually work just fine with technology we have today
@M0n4rc2 күн бұрын
Good idea actually. So there’s no danger to drivers and they can focus just on speed
@godsinbox2 күн бұрын
that is silly! what size would the cars be (not human sized) and what is the race length (suit TV viewers attention span)? Taking out those 2 variables and you just have RC cars/drones - which have already been done (And no ones cares)
@davidush3110 күн бұрын
Now with this you can drive easily upside down in a tunnel :))
@Schnickenpick10 күн бұрын
😂
@AndreA-yq4cu10 күн бұрын
You could this already. This Main issue is the engine with the o ans the fuel...
@Cloxxki10 күн бұрын
@@AndreA-yq4cu Electric drivetrains are becoming cookie cutter. Fuel driven is just impractical upside down life. For such a SHORT drive, like a minute tops of which just a small number of seconds at high power, a really small power cell battery can be used. I'd borrow the Rimac 3.5 kWh battery from the Koenigsegg Regera (700 hp), and the Koenigsegg Dark Matter (800 hp/38kg?) motors. Those two plus HV cables ought to be lighter than most 700hp fuel systems, let alone with upside down provisions. And really, for just one upside down pass, that 75 kg Rimac battery is overkill. A one time use battery would be lighter and cheaper.
@paulhope340110 күн бұрын
@@AndreA-yq4cu Fuel pick up? If they can succesfuly do it on aerobtic planes, it's do able here too.
@Driver6110 күн бұрын
It's got a fan... That'd be cheating!
@xpeterson10 күн бұрын
Feel like this has been done before. The “formula one car without formula one limitations” idea never takes into account how bad the races are going to be if merely approaching the car in front of you sends you into an aerodynamic tornado, or any of the other million reasons they have added rules for.
@jamesabbot-cole68149 күн бұрын
Or have a load of Mark Webber Le Mans crashes when the Aero lets go down one of the longer straights.
@pashalq9 күн бұрын
@@jamesabbot-cole6814 that specific aero problem was caused by rules of flat floors. Sure, not the only reason and Mercedes surely went to the edge with their design, but in the end it caused the louvres on the front wheel arches.
@pashalq9 күн бұрын
It would be an interesting thing for Time Attack though, maybe something of a 5 laps average time or something along those lines.
@SilverSeraph9132 күн бұрын
Exactly. This design seems too limited. Why have the halo? Why have the driver at all? Why not lasers to blind all other drivers and officials? Why not missiles to take out all the other cars, both in front and behind?
@rahulsondi-xn4qy10 күн бұрын
In terms of cost, you have to keep in mind that most of the money that an F1 team spends out of that 150 million is on salaries and operations like logistics, rather than on the car itself. The car itself is worth around the same as this one, around 10 million pounds
@speedhunter2510 күн бұрын
But it's only 10 million because the F1 teams already have the infrastructure, so you either need a lot more money or an F1 team that can afford to stop producing its own parts and build it for you.
@FinessaryBob10 күн бұрын
Also testing the actual car. This car hasn’t even been built
@F1-Passion10 күн бұрын
The engine alone in and F1 car is about 20 million.
@davidwiles604210 күн бұрын
“F1 car with no rules” is an oxymoron. The rules are what defines F1.
@MuppetsSh0w10 күн бұрын
@@davidwiles6042 Exactly
@Pitcher-T10 күн бұрын
1:30 Nearly spilled my tea all over me when that engine roar came on 😂
@CambrianExplosionContext9 күн бұрын
Well well well
@CambrianExplosionContext9 күн бұрын
Well well well…
@ChinZuКүн бұрын
😂😂
@Jamie_0610 күн бұрын
Looks like if it formula one had a vision gt car
@devol382910 күн бұрын
Dude it looks like a Poweranger Robot from the visuals. So flashy.
@pedinhuh1610 күн бұрын
That car already exists, it's called the Red Bull X2010.
@oblied10 күн бұрын
@@pedinhuh16 X2010 is also 15 years old now lol
@Nicholas-m7p10 күн бұрын
@@oblied i wonder how the two would compare in speed on track
@oblied10 күн бұрын
@Nicholas-m7p this should be slightly quicker depending on what version x2010 used
@thefrenchcarguy9 күн бұрын
2:45 proud to hear a French compatriot here 😂😂❤
@geicihg6 күн бұрын
son accent fait mal aux oreilles n'empêche
@WALLACE-vg4ny5 күн бұрын
@@geicihg on s'en fout, on n'est pas la pour faire semblant d'être ricain ou anglais.
@spruce85374 күн бұрын
baahahah je me suis jeté dans les coms quand j'ai reconnu son accent 🐓🍷⚜
@alimanski794110 күн бұрын
Interesting that he still chose to have a halo and not just enclose the cockpit - which I imagine has more potential aerodynamically.
@Jimmy_Moon10 күн бұрын
I think it's more for the drivers. They trialed an enclosed cockpit and they said it made them feel sick by impairing their vision. The dirt and marks on the windscreen were distracting etc. Drivers have said, due to the design of the halo and the centre bar being in between their vision, they don't notice it.
@poxtaz.10 күн бұрын
Its also easier to get out of the halo than a broken closed cockpit
@robotnikkkk00110 күн бұрын
...AGREED..... ...AND ALL "but" THINGS ARE A bout STUFF WASNT GET MUCH DEVELOPMENT
@abdullahsalman220010 күн бұрын
@@Jimmy_Moonnot too sure about this, I mean LMP1 cars are closed cockpit cars and would run for a long time before each stop.
@paulhope340110 күн бұрын
A curved windscreen with such a pronounced curvature would likely distort the view of the road ahead, leading to difficulty judging distances and potentially causing eye strain due to the uneven focus required to see through the curved glass... I suspect looking past something like the central Halo piller is much less intrusive to ones vision when focusing way beyond it... than actually looking through a very curved lens that would distort your view. Tbh... I think 'no rules' cars would soon end up being severely limited by the bag of bones and tissues trying to pilot it... kind of like how they have to use fly by wire controls on modern fighter jets to ensure they don't pull more G's than the airframe and pilots can handle.... If they ended up with jet turbines with side nozzle thrust vectoring the potential cornering G's could break people never mind cause them to pass out and it would probably become necessary to remove the driver from the car and to have him operate it remotely via ultra low latency FPV cams and possibly VR.
@Kempy8910 күн бұрын
Surely the transition between fans and ground effect at 150kph would be totally unmanageable in practice? Also, the biggest challenge to all of this would be to develop some tyres that would deal with the performance and aero load.
@HeinrichJNel9 күн бұрын
And can do 70 laps without being changed, not sure how they quickly swop tyres with the enclosed wheels
@jasmijnariel9 күн бұрын
The real struggle is not the car , its a fighterjet on wheels.... the driver is the limit. 7 positive G is already insane. Doing 7g sideways, for 1.5h is suicide on a body
@spdcrzy8 күн бұрын
@@jasmijnariel that's how racing should be once again. The driver becomes the limit, not the car.
@TimothyZanyk6 күн бұрын
You don't have to run 70 laps or change tires. It can be a time attack series. Of course it's less spectacular than seeing drivers competing in a race but for a competition of engineers it's a more suitable format
@Johnpaul-l6j5 күн бұрын
@@jasmijnariel well what if the driver is a space marine from warhammer 40k
@sdewey415210 күн бұрын
So a modern day RedBull X2010/11
@MuyTuareg10 күн бұрын
There was even the gameplay of the x2010 in the video ahah
@AJZulu10 күн бұрын
My exact thought.
@Jojo_Bee10 күн бұрын
Exactly right... Might as well call it Red Bull X2025... In other words. Adrian Newey's original concept is seen as the fundamental solution. Designs that followed it are just developmental versions...
@IIGrayfoxII10 күн бұрын
@@Jojo_Bee IIRC, the details for the X2010 was it was powered by a gas turbine.
@Garrett_Thompson10 күн бұрын
@@IIGrayfoxII The X2010 had a v6.
@crackasaurus_rox974010 күн бұрын
For the uninitiated, all f1 designers tried to build this car in their early years before realizing that it was infeasible to make the pit stops work (safely) with the wheel covers. Works for a hillclimb though.
@stephenspackman557310 күн бұрын
But again, surely that's a rules issue? If I'm allowed to drive my car into a pitting robot, and I'm not constrained as to what exactly disconnects, I should be able to get sub-second wheel changes, regardless.
@vornamenachname9895 күн бұрын
@@stephenspackman5573I feel like it's only a matter of time until people completely change the car and lift the pilot into a second one or sth if that is allowed...
@jesperzeng10 күн бұрын
So much faster than F1, question is can a driver take it over a race distance physically?
@EarlHare10 күн бұрын
Even more important question, can an F1 driver even take it around certain corners at the maximum possible speed without blacking out?
@MrSchrootenstein10 күн бұрын
Also, how long will tires hold up
@ObnoxiusBrat10 күн бұрын
@@EarlHare this is a level of g-force of fighter jets. So it's possible to handle for a while.
@chefcc9010 күн бұрын
@@EarlHare Probably. Modern F1 cars can get to around 6.5g in the corners. It's more about neck muscles than blacking out. Blacking out usually occurs in pilots due to maneuvers like sudden climbs that cause the blood to go to their feet. F1 cars don't do that.
@twandepan10 күн бұрын
@@ObnoxiusBrat true but a fighter pilot experiences mainly vertical g's while F1 drivers experience mainly lateral g's. So less chance of blacking out but it will be absolutely exhausting to drive with all the muscle you need to even keep your wheel pointing in the right direction
@Get-Native10 күн бұрын
Looks kinda like the red bull x2010 but with a halo not a fighter cockpit canopy.
@Schnickenpick10 күн бұрын
This is crazy imagine if there was a league for that
@Nathan-y4r10 күн бұрын
Have it like Group B in rally racing that would sick
@phillipjames1310 күн бұрын
F0
@ChristosGamer10 күн бұрын
Formula 0
@johngalt9710 күн бұрын
CanAm II DJT series Its back!
@Jasongilliar10 күн бұрын
F1 is on the limit of human abilitys. F1 would be way faster by now, but we slow them down every couple of years to not pass out
@MuscarV210 күн бұрын
All those rules are understandable, but there should really be a chagegory that's just "anything goes, the crazier, more out of the box the better". They should make a formula X or something where every year is more a show of new developments without constraints than whoever wins.
@SilvaDreams6 күн бұрын
... So the original F1?
@Denes200510 күн бұрын
1) wow that’s cool 2) nice video 3) i was first thinking about the Rodin F-Zero, which is already more than just a computer model 4) 9:22 thanks for showing a clear shot of the rear of the x2014, showing that there isn’t a fan there. There is a fan variant, but this particular video seems to be of the version without it. Yes, very minor nitpick, sorry
@DANNYonPC8 күн бұрын
10:10 those doors seem pretty ineffective? Wouldnt shutters be a more effective way than a flapdoor?
@katieneubaum42843 күн бұрын
It’s probably just an illustration. As much money as he’d spending on this, it’s unlikely he’d use such a mechanism for controlling the airflow
@d1nonlyjcob46210 күн бұрын
Would tire manufacturers be able to create a tire that can handle the high loads of downforce this car creates?
@TylerHarris-yy7uf10 күн бұрын
Kevlar reinforced tires maybe?
@illdeletethismusic10 күн бұрын
good question, tyres are also holding back Rodin in this regard
@harryarmstrong572810 күн бұрын
How do you even get to the tires to change them?
@mirandahotspring401910 күн бұрын
That's only twice as much per tyre as each tyre on a Bugatti standing still.
@jacobm262510 күн бұрын
@@TylerHarris-yy7ufa lot of tires already are. Not sure if racing tires are, but I know some road tires are.
@KaeserStatic10 күн бұрын
Each deacade we strive closer nd closer to the Mach 5, its giving very much Speed Racer vibes in design, i love it😂
@jespervalbjrn693210 күн бұрын
So like the redbull x thing
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks10 күн бұрын
Except without the enclosed cockpit and front wing.
@JustAnotherAlias17 күн бұрын
Racing cars like this remote controlled might be the future of motorsports
@88chrome10 күн бұрын
Speed Racer Mach 6 type beat
@westafoni10 күн бұрын
Yes.
@roniteklahare167010 күн бұрын
Yeah exactly. This literally looks like something outta the Speed Racer movie
@metaliczic9610 күн бұрын
Or Future GPX Cyber Formula.
@monkeyfan2509 күн бұрын
the T-180s XD
@nodical8029 күн бұрын
My peopleeeeee
@foxgaming76yt2410 күн бұрын
So what exactly sets this apart from the X2010 and its variants?
@Arhange17909 күн бұрын
Ignorance of the channel author)😂
@MrLeocars9710 күн бұрын
15:15, so basically this would be F0
@gabriellarsson902910 күн бұрын
F-1 if anything, since it's 2 steps
@rajasaif999910 күн бұрын
Nope it would be a F car
@headcrab98010 күн бұрын
Ahh now I wanna play F-zero! quality game on the snes and N64
@gmoneyp36729 күн бұрын
@@headcrab980n64?
@nelsonjejd31889 күн бұрын
Captain Falcon is very happy to see this car
@alexkemp900110 күн бұрын
Great video. This has answered the question I’ve had in my head for a long time and finally I get it answered! Very interesting to see that most of the solutions have actually existed in f1 already!
@u.a.nugroho10 күн бұрын
Consider.... 1. Does the tyre technology cope that 7G? 2. If there's no front wing.. how driver change the setup needed to suit his need. 3. Will the change between fan suction downforce and regular downforce will make the car unstable it self..
@benoit987410 күн бұрын
@@robotnikkkk001 easy to talk, less to produce. we're waiting for your car as you seem so intelligent
@robotnikkkk00110 күн бұрын
@@benoit9874 ....HOW IS IT TOO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? ........IT'S JUST basic STUFF!!! .....FIRST OF ALL......ACTIVE SUSPENSION WILL allow to set different clearences!!!SO DOWNFORCE CONTROL ALREADY WILL GET HUGELY IMPROVED!!!ALSO..... *_THAT SKIRT DESIGN DOESNT WORK SO FAN ISNT EFFECTIVE AS IT SHOULDVE BEEN_* .......BESIDES,THESE VORTEXES ARE APPEARING ONLY AT huge SPEED......AND IF SPEED IS LOW, the suck is laughable....THAT'S WHY THIS CHAPPAREL WITH FANS WAS USING SKIRTS .....ANOTHER THING ABOUT active suspension .....COMES FROM *_it allows to keep angle to help skirt get properly sealed_* ......AM I CORRECT???.......AS WELL AS...... ACTIVE SUSPENSION IS VITAL FOR tire management AS IT DOES ALLOW TO DISTRIBUTE LOAD evenly SO PIT STOPS ARE less FREQUENT........ ....AND ACTIVE SUSPENSION IS ABOUT CONTROL OVER pitch AS WELL,RIGHT?????.....SO PERFECT CONTROL OVER STUFF DURING both ACCELERATION/BRAKING ...........is it correct??? .......NOW'S ABOUT ACTIVE AERODYNANICS.......THIS CHOICE OF flexible wing IS EXTRA LAUGHABLE......BECAUSE EVEN perfectly FLEXIBLE WING GOT the same drag AT ALL SPEEDS.......NOT MORE OR LESS,same!!!.....BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS A BALANCE BETWEEN drag AND flex....RIGHT??BECAUSE OF AT high SPEED AMOUNT OF AIR PARTICLES IS higher AND AT LOW SPEED IT'S lower.........AM I CORRECT??!.......SO DUDE basically DOESNT UNDERSTAND *_physical principle behind_* AS HE JUST SAW HOW MCLAREN'S WING FLEXES AND LIKE wow okay........ ....AND what ACTUALLY ACTIVE AERODYNAMIC GIVES????....A *_TOTAL CONTROL_* ........SO IT actually CREATES *variable* DOWNFORCE,SO AT CORNERS IT CAN SET HIGHER,AND AT STRAIGHTS IT CAN LITERALLY GET flat TO CREATE *NO DRAG AT ALL* ........RIGHT?????.........IN ADDITION, *_active aerodynamics can start work at ANY speed,greatly improving car's behavior during braking and EVEN COULDVE BEEN USED AS ADDITIONAL BRAKING SYSTEM TO HELP FURTHER REDUCE BRAKING TIME_* ...........SO ..... *_AM I SCIENTIFICALLY CORRECT???_* ............
@benoit987410 күн бұрын
@robotnikkkk001 first step that you learn, is to write things appropriately and scientifically.
@FacelessBillions10 күн бұрын
@@benoit9874 yeah, robotnikk´s comments are impossible to read
@FacelessBillions10 күн бұрын
1: great question, guess its time to make kevlar-vibranium alloy reinforced tires or something like that 💀 2: great point, as soon as I saw it I knew it was gonna struggle with that and defo with Understeer 3: dont think so, they can engineer a way to transition smoothly
@brucewayne53429 күн бұрын
That's a really cool excercise, but if you ask me, the thing that makes an F1 car distinct from any other kind of prototype style race car is: a) an open cockpit and b ) wheels without any real covering. The second one of these two things is not present it does not really feel like an F1 car anymore.
@adrian758310 күн бұрын
FYI: The fan appears to be installed and running backwards in the render. Would also work better with a stator.
@jakeparker825410 күн бұрын
Lots of flaws ahaha definitely a concept designer 😅
@Vyzion20206 күн бұрын
If its installed backwards then put in reverse does that make it go forward but badly, like some of those weird dirt bikes. I don't know much about them but I've seen them launch in reverse 😂
@am-e79679 күн бұрын
I'm... extremely skeptical. He hasn't added nearly enough structure to those little hole covers, and they'd probably immediately come off. Similarly, the skirting trapdoor thing would be ripped to pieces at even low speeds. There's probably tons of these issues that would need to be fixed, and those fixes would completely ruin the performance of the car. Additionally, the "I can do it cheaper than everyone else" claim is obviously wrong and extremely Musk-esque
@akiravecchi10 күн бұрын
I think the idea of switching from fan car to ground effect is brilliant but the danger of the hydraulics failing to activate on when you want to do a 7G curve might be too dangerous. I think considering all of the aero of the car and what it wants to achieve the fan is not ideal
@tenningale10 күн бұрын
100%. I mean if this was practical F1 would already be doing it. They could absolutely design higher-performance cars but the trade-offs around safety and other factors understandably aren't acceptable.
@bogdanzorila66979 күн бұрын
Someone should start a F1 racing without rules and give green light to innovation and technology and have all these gigantic companies bring whatever all of them can think of . That would be an amazing thing to see.
@cloroxbleach75549 күн бұрын
That dude has the most stereotypical French accent
@KenWagner-nt1hi9 күн бұрын
That car is insane:) From the front view it reminds me of the" mark 5" from the "Speed racer" cartoon. Just incredible. I love the way you think about futuristic racing 😊 this model is much more feasible than the Redbull or Ferrari version. Beautiful,pure and sexy. That's racing 🤗
@RealSopwithCameltoe10 күн бұрын
Can’t wait to see it on track one day as a demonstration
@dark6.6E-349 күн бұрын
This is basically optimized to fully drain the clean wind and completely ignore what tornadoes are sent back towards the driver behind you. Races wouldn't be possible as people are suggesting.
@AJZulu10 күн бұрын
Red Bull has done something like this before in the 2010s. (4:53) And it's in the Gran Turismo games of that era. The Red Bull X2010/2011/2014
@Arhange17909 күн бұрын
RedBull even built full scale model.
@juliojorgeteles61057 күн бұрын
But the difference on these two is, as the video states, the "le pinacle" can be produced with today's technology. The X2010 and its other models cannot.
@kristianangeloni7 күн бұрын
@@juliojorgeteles6105 Nah, they can. There's nothing on Red Bull X that can't be produced today except for the tyre, but we are not talking about cars like the Chaparral X VGT or the Tomahawk. The hardest part to build would be a tyre that can cope that amount of downforce and stress, but it's a problem that would have the Le Pinnacle too (plus, we have to think about driver too)
@quezdonivey55187 күн бұрын
Looks like a speed racer car, always loved the look of those cars, would love if there was a league today with cars like that.
@mattw_92910 күн бұрын
i mean this in the best way possible, Sebastian is sooooo French and i love listening to his English pronunciations lmao
@niskanen196 күн бұрын
Damn using natural flexibility to reduce drag on high speed is genius and something i havent heard of! 🤝
@Dharshan-One10 күн бұрын
Would be nice if Gordon Murray reacted to this
@jakobusvdl839510 күн бұрын
or William Toet
@bwalker41949 күн бұрын
I’ve always dreamed of a true American unit “One-to-One” series…one horsepower per pound of vehicle weight. It will put an end to the disturbing flat-out laps around the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. I want to see heavy breaking down from 300 mph in order to make the corners. 1700 lbs and 1700 reliable HP should be no big deal. I’m 66….don’t wait too long!
@MrLeocars9710 күн бұрын
Looks like a Speed Racer car... I love it
@monkeyfan2509 күн бұрын
yep the T-180s
@redTanto4 күн бұрын
mini-RDE piped straight into a tesla turbine all encased with ferrofluid convection current stirling (these are pistonless and take any shape, if you were imagining pistons, look up the terms first). Diesel-propane-hmx based emulsion fuel. You can switch hmx for dinitroglycoluril if you want to be environmentally friendly / non-toxic but it drops the detonation velocity, or you can jump for heptanitrocubane for higher detonation velocity but its less stable. Use multilayer graphene-borophene heterostructures in the RDE to withstand the shock and pressures. I have an even more powerful engine setup based around the shkas machine gun (quite different, its two opposing interlocking revolvers back ported into a magnetically geared turbine to power their spin) but it expends thousands of tons of solid fuel in seconds and if you increase slip rate to lower fuel expenditure the efficiency decreases to the point of it being less volume efficient than the originally stated engine. So its not feasible for anything that's not a burst.
@DJChappie00110 күн бұрын
wow, he should make a AC mod or something.
@BaribrotzerКүн бұрын
Look up Robin Shute's channel and his series about building a Pikes Peak racer. Open class in the Pikes Peak Hillclimb has few rules, and Shute came up with a car similar to Lamour's in its broad outlines: high on downforce, light in weight, having a typical mid-engine race-car layout, and using rear wheel drive with a small turbo engine (a NZ-made 2.4L V8 involving BMW motorcycle parts, in his case).
@adilsongoliveira10 күн бұрын
The scenes with the old F1 cars remind me of when I was a kid and watched the races with Emerson Fitipaldi, Niki Lauda, Clay Regazzoni, and later Airton Senna, Nelson Piquet, Alain Prost, Michael Schumacher, etc.
@irmaobarbado10 күн бұрын
It looks like the Speed Racer's T180 era is closer than we could have ever imagined
@samuelgentry41258 күн бұрын
Man made a mach 6 speed racer reference
@chingompiew18 күн бұрын
With a car like this, the next thing to do is the upgrade the track and make it like a Hot Wheels track. Tracks that twist, loop and negative banking tracks that pull upside-down g's :)
@deco544210 күн бұрын
7:54 And you know what else is massive?
@musiccritic846710 күн бұрын
Looowwwwww taperrrr fadeeee
@BigfootNewEngland8 күн бұрын
I love the edit @ 14:40. Red Bulls bendy wing. Iykyk.😂😂😂
@kevinbarnard350210 күн бұрын
Aren't pit stops going to be annoying? How fast can those tires be changed? Dp they have a quick release and just drop out of the bottom of the enclosures or something?
@yongling982510 күн бұрын
Seeing as the wheels are inserted into axles where the Centerlock lockrings would thread onto, they can't simply drop out from the bottom. The wheel covers have clasps.
@kevinbarnard350210 күн бұрын
So the only a couple seconds long long pit stop wouldn't happen. How quickly could the wheels be changed? Wish they would have covered that. Performance of the vehicle is probably the biggest factor of a winning race, but there are other factors, too.
@nightshadelenar10 күн бұрын
@@kevinbarnard3502 it would be a second or two longer when nailed down the procedure to pop them off, however a 5-7 seconds stop minimum seems feasible.
@iephoto7 күн бұрын
I attend PPIHC every year and it's glorious to see those unlimited class cars. Works of engineering art.
@fuhiyo10 күн бұрын
Please talk about the new FIA rules 🙏🙏
@Dakkyun10 күн бұрын
You mean the 2026 rules or no swearing rules, question ?
@fuhiyo10 күн бұрын
@Dakkyun The new swearing Rules
@MayumiTheKimura10 күн бұрын
The fuck they said now??? Can't turn the car on anymore or some shit?
@fuhiyo10 күн бұрын
@@MayumiTheKimura 1 month Race Ban,30k fine and -5 Points If you swear, do an religious or political Statement and If you criticize the FIA in any kind of Form.
@kingkasma46608 күн бұрын
Would love to see and engineering focused racing sport, where also there are episodes that bring light on the Engineering desicions
@1rondeficiency10 күн бұрын
3:01 massive you say
@80infiniti_9 күн бұрын
yeah no massive
@Justin666i10 күн бұрын
Add 4wd, all wheel steering/braking, cvt, dynamic ride control and 'unlimited' car would be unstoppable
@smiff-it78409 күн бұрын
That's just a straight up speed racer car
@King-hs9zc5 күн бұрын
My exact thoughts lol
@onetonpun8 күн бұрын
I believe the chaparral 2j had side skirts attached to the suspension to maintain clearance from the ground. If the whole undertray was attached to the suspension it would maintain clearance and not translate the downforce produced through the springs.
@vlsblades32457 күн бұрын
8:18 but then, hefest got this run
@LDSKRVODs6 күн бұрын
😭
@uberschnilthegreat228 күн бұрын
Damn thing looks like a cyberpunk'd Speed Racer machine and I am all for it
@snoepjejul10 күн бұрын
But how do you do a pitstop?
@Dakkyun10 күн бұрын
Have a look at 2009 cars with wheel covers
@K1ngHandy9 күн бұрын
What a great concept. Those variable cooling inlets have me anxious about longevity. I wonder if any aero is designed like fish gills - with layers of flexible material that spread at speed and compress during braking.
@max_verstappen3310 күн бұрын
Let me drive it.
@icarlosfernandez10 күн бұрын
Why? You’d probably just crash it into another driver.
@EamonDorrian-lo1ne4 күн бұрын
Just fantastic, what a car, but what a top, top engineer this chap is. Fabulous thinking 👍👍👍
@samuelgarrod832710 күн бұрын
If there are no rules it's not a formula.
@provonic91878 күн бұрын
This is definitely a Speed Racer car, very similar to the designs from the live action movie. I love it, i want it, give us Speed Racer F1
@wyskass86110 күн бұрын
Now let's find a human who can handle 7g lateral loads. Not sure if that's even drivable.
@yongling982510 күн бұрын
What car pulls the highest lateral load so far and how high?
@wyskass86110 күн бұрын
@@yongling9825 afaik, F1 cars hit 5g lateral at the apex of corners as highest in motorsports. These top pro drivers spend much of their training on their necks to be able to last for a race.
@FacelessBillions10 күн бұрын
fighter jet pilots, however they are more used to sustained Gs and not going from a 5G corner to a 1.5G straight to a 5.5G braking zone in 6 seconds
@yongling982510 күн бұрын
@@FacelessBillions What about air racing pilots? I think they can hold 9 Gs (Red Bull Air Race's regulated limit) for a short while.
@wyskass86110 күн бұрын
@FacelessBillions They don't deal with lateral Gs at all. All forces are along the body axis (vertical G forces), positive G's drain blood from brain and can cause loss of consciousness.. Negative g's are very rare and avoided, during pitch down and would damage the eyes. In contrast cars don't deal with Vertical G's at all, and all forces are horizontal along the ground plane. Bodies handle different directions of G forces very differently, so irrelevant to compare, cars to airplanes, as there is no overlap in G force directions.
@CydoniaEX10 күн бұрын
Give it an integrated AI and you can call it Asurada, gotta love those concepts
@MenaceASL10 күн бұрын
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LA FRANCE!
@iXiwar10 күн бұрын
😂😂
@GonzoDonzo8 күн бұрын
U can actually get incredible throttle response with a hybrid electric axial flow turbine engine. If the compressor stages are powered by electric motors u can gain alot of efficiency in the compressor portion as well as instant response since they are independent from the power turbine. Now getting all the electronics, generator etc into a racing car would most likely be unfeasible. My favorite thing about this car is the size. Its not massive like modern f1. Its wide but not long
@80infiniti_9 күн бұрын
8:25 yeah no massive
@deadlystalker74839 күн бұрын
You know what else is massive?
@spicynoodle74197 күн бұрын
4:25 I hate having to shift gears in my CVT transmission. I'm glad he went with an automatic gearbox instead!
@paulsalter309910 күн бұрын
I hate to point out the obvious, but with no rules (formula) it's not F1!
@samuelgarrod832710 күн бұрын
Absolutely. "Let's play football but with no rules"...😂
@Brad-dx9fd9 күн бұрын
This is what I've been wanting for awhile now. A Formula Racing series that has no(less) rules would be amazing to watch and also provide so many tech ideas for F1 and road cars. I just feel like the engineers have been forced into a box and I want a series where they shine for creativity instead of just how well they can work within/around the rules. Maybe call it FX for experimental like X type aircrafts. Or FU(unlimited) 😂
@bobbart64984 күн бұрын
I'm interested in why he decided to keep it open cockpit? If there were no rules, you wouldn't have to make it open, which would increase aero. He didn't keep it open wheeled, so it shouldn't be a tradition issue.
@deltacx10599 күн бұрын
3:11 generator, battery, electric hub motors, done. You can run the turbine steady state and you get torque vectoring, if your doing racing like f1 your engineers can sort the rest.
@madMARTYNmarsh19818 күн бұрын
This is really cool. An idea for a future project could be to get an advanced AI to develop a car following the same rules, then compare it to Le Pinnacle. A simulates track run of both cars would be very interesting.
@kwl1899 күн бұрын
I would be interested to see some sim runs of it riding bumps and curves or how it reacts in collisions/bumps and scraps. My guess is instability riding curbs disturbing the seal for airflow under the car and certain fragility in small collisions or bumps with other cars when it comes to those wheel covers running as close as they are to the tyres.
@EQUAL210 күн бұрын
im surprised the redbull x201x series was not mentioned in this video, it's the exact same idea.
@AssassinGT8 күн бұрын
I would be so curious to see the air simulations with two cars side to side. The turbulence has the potential to make wheel to wheel racing very difficult. Although as a no limits machine it would be amazing; I wish f1 would go back towards this direction.
@tysontaggart72469 күн бұрын
It's like a Le-Mans Hypercar, an IndyCar and a F1 car had a giant hideous love child.
@deltacx10599 күн бұрын
I love a giant bar in the middle of my view, makes driving so much easier.
@andyelliott198410 күн бұрын
I think pullrod front suspension would be better than pushrod as it's aerodynamically more efficient and it would have a lower centre of gravity.
@miggssamonte529210 күн бұрын
Speed racer type car. I love it
@lordvadar61049 күн бұрын
If you allow side skirts that touch the track surface, internal mass dampners, active aero, rear extruder fans, and active suspensions you could decrease the available horsepower by half and achieve lap times better then what were possible in the 2024 F-1 spec
@-trigger--strider1-600Күн бұрын
Gives me some speed racer vibes, it’s awesome.👏
@picksalot18 күн бұрын
Beautiful design and inspired engineering. I'd love to see F1 with no rules, except regarding size, maybe weight, and a restriction that the design should not interfere with other Cars or their drivers.
@JayTobas5 күн бұрын
I think a league where engineers are allowed to make these unrestricted cars would be neat. Make it so every development's base working model is shared with teams, and they're allowed to make adjustments or improvements as they see fit. Any new technology needs at least a season's advance before being implemented to enable other teams to pick up and develop their team's version of any new tech that comes about.
@mymoviefilms10 күн бұрын
This was already done years ago and it even ended up in previous Gran Turismo games. It even looked almost like this.
@OtesOtesOtes5 күн бұрын
3:00 this is a total non-issue if it's a hybrid. electric motors for torque & acceleration with relatively small capacitors, just slightly more than necessary for acceleration.
@thebearded44273 күн бұрын
Quick question: wouldn’t a variable transmission that disengages completely when breaking with a magnetic clutch be able to run a gas engine with having it slow down? That way you have double “extensions” to reduce the high impact of the re-engage. That or maybe double magnetic clutches? Or maybe the weight is just too high to incorporate that kind of solution?
@SanderPM5 күн бұрын
WELCOME TO F0!!
@absolarix9 күн бұрын
This thing looks like it came straight out of Speed Racer.
@griptopia8 күн бұрын
So many amazing french engineering companies.. "pipo"... where would WRC be without those guys! note the flaps opening and closing in on the tunnel... bit like how they stall the floor out on f1 cars... and meta materials that respond to electric current... (oops i shouldn't have said that out loud) great video dude!
@johnkilo38 күн бұрын
If you want to get really nuts just remove the driver entirely and then have it driven remotely, or autonomously/semi-autonomously by AI like a drone. That way you cut down on the weight and drag of the driver and the stuff needed to keep them safe. I feel like the biggest limiting factor in all of this, as always, is tire technology. It stinks we can't get a truly unlimited racing series where the only limitation is safety, and we could really see the unlimited prowess and ingenuity of engineers.. I guess that is why they got rid of LMP1, though. It quickly becomes a battle of who throws the most money at their race car, and before you know it everyone has left the series and you only have Toyota as an entry.
@jeffreyroth75172 күн бұрын
I think this could be the way. Have them "drive it" from a sim rig, there could even be 2 drivers, and the guy/girl that's not driving that stint has to physically run a foot race against the other drivers and whichever of the footage winners places best, there could be an on track advantage given at the pitstop. That way, they'd be physically worn out when it was time for their stint to start.
@virgiliomariochiono2326 күн бұрын
Interesting concept. That's why every race has rules. If you make a formula without rules, your limit is, clearly, how money you want to spend. So on this base, there's a plenty of things you can further enhance, like new materials for everything, software, an so on.