Driving and Working Time HGV

[@dialdays]

I've just passed last week but took my cpc a few months ago, I'm glad this video is here to help me remind me of all the hours and rest periods....no chance of remembering them

[@eddherring4972]

I think my tiny brain just exploded. I’ll need to watch this a few more times

[@gabrieltdu5780]

Edd Herring ikr i watch a few minutes then take a break and return again lol

[@DonDaku01]

Was your break classed as a working break? or was it rest?..

[@richlee509]

@@DonDaku01 he had it on poa

[@jblack57]

this means u haven`t got HGV brain :D just kidding I`m HGV driver 5 years now, after while its very easy , you will see:)

[@ballykaur8310]

@@DonDaku01 lol thats funny

[@circa-rw9lt]

And people think it's easy, the laws we have to stick to so they get their milk, food, clothes, cars, white goods and everything else they use without thinking about how it got to their store. Have some respect for truckers, please.

[@terrytubby9393]

🔨🔨🔨🏺⚔️circa 1971

[@London1064]

You get my vote.

[@minidriversouthsweden5137]

Amen I’m a HGV driver but I don’t drive HGV’s anymore because of the stress and an accident that was 1,5 meters away from killing me so I didn’t think the payment and the loads was worth dying for. A drunk driver blew a stop sign and turned out to the road I was driving on causing me to take evasive action and jackknifed into a ditch and rolled onto the drivers side.

[@London1064]

Citroen Driver crikey mate. Glad your OK now.

[@handymusic4123]

i'll be starting this career soon as a minibus driver and need to know all the regs and rules before i can get on the road. There's a lot to know for sure :P

[@avonmouthfitter2545]

Best ever video with requards to WTD .. easy to follow

[@scw7495]

I'm a driver and they go on about health and safety. So where is it safe to be working a maximum of 60 hours a week while in charge of a 44 tonne vehicle? Then they come out with crap it will be average of 48 over a 26 week period. NO it should be a maximum of 48 hours in a week, full stop.

[@OrionHartwick]

Ye I agree, my uncles a driver for Tesco doing shunting and long haul and normal haul (not a driver yet so idk full like names of things) I agree with the 48 hour driving time instead of this garbage, let the driver choose when he's wanna just get some kip or nibbbles

[@warrenfrost984]

Utter bollocks. This why drivers get infringements and fines. To confusing we have enough to concentrate on. You can tell a pen pusher made these rules.

[@TruckinAboutWithSteve]

you are responsible for your own safety ultimately. be responsible for your actions by making sure you get a good rest between your shifts. if you do end up feeling tired where you feel you cant continue, it is on you to stop for a break or a rest. not the employer or the tachograph

[@maverick4220]

This seems to be far more complicated then it needs too be.

[@cagmito76]

bureaucracy -

[@Welshgamer2514]

It's head stress I'm still trying to get my head round it.

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

It doesn't seem like it, it just is

[@voice.of.reason]

It is. Allowing longer driving times twice a week and all that. Totally stupid. It needs to be 9 hours a day maximum. And then it contridicts itself by saying you can do a 13 hour shift in 24 hours but can reduce the rest to do 15 hours of shift for 2 days. Totally stupid. It needs to be the same hours every day. Safer, less chance of errors and easier to work with. What idiot designed these hours?

[@schnozz87]

You get used to it, it's definitely more complicated than it needs to be but when you do it every day it becomes second nature and you have little ways to make it work. It's also better than having no rules in place because companies would abuse drivers' hours constantly, make people drive more hours than is safe and there would be accidents all the time.

[@rolanddonovan]

I nearly fell asleep at the wheel today, watching this.

[@TruckinAboutWithSteve]

haha

[@derbyywam]

Thanks Jonny it sounds common sense to me . My daughter lives in Perth so when we visit I get to see some of the great Rigs you guys have . Enjoy the road !

[@stephenodonnell679]

Great video,covers everything 👍👍

[@grahamwhitehead9498]

This is a god send 🙌 thank you...I don't have to keep asking questions now .

[@danielnuttall5945]

Good video, thanks for taking the time.

[@stuartpattison1576]

This is why no one wants to do the job, too many rules, and the pay is crap, not worth it.

[@11111964s]

How right you are?

[@mrcaboosevg6089]

Pay isn't that bad, certainly not if you left school and got no more education.

[@johnobrien2207]

@@mrcaboosevg6089 ..VOsa can do all the truck driving ...To many chefs and not enough indians ...Get the experts to do the job....

[@corneliuspumpkins]

It's the reason I won't drive any more. Far to complicated

[@johnobrien2207]

@@corneliuspumpkins It for most trades now all rules and courses and little return ...Drawing social is nearly a higher trade now than most jobs or the small self employed ..

[@bmwnasher]

20 yrs a Petrol Tanker driver finished in 1999, god help you guys now, gone are the old log book days of the 60/70s, fill it in once a week : ).

[@iwilliamz152]

Any advice for someone that wants a long term career in petrol tanking?

[@bmwnasher]

@@iwilliamz152 Yes give it a go, good luck.

[@IsaacHunt.]

I have got my tacho cpc module tomorrow. I'm a newby doing my class 2. This video has fried my fkn brain. I can only imagine that tomorrows module will do exactly the same. Absolutely didn't understand 1 second of this. Wish me luck hahahaha

[@HolteEnder85]

bettyboocs got mine in 2 weeks time. Heads frazzled. Completely over complicated.

[@paulthomas3841]

Good Luck Bro

[@Keepingitrespectfulmostly.]

I used to drive buses and coaches and thanks to Thatcher our working day went from 7 1/2 hours with an hour for lunch in a subsided canteen to 14 hour days as long as we has two 40 minute meal breaks sat at the side of the road eating cold food and hot drink if you had a flask. Technically a lorry load of manure was treated better than a driver of passengers. How to do away with moral and feeling appreciated in one fell swoop.

[@voice.of.reason]

It wasn't Thatchers fault but I take your point. Labour could have changed it but they made it even worse.

[@madmiketruckerlife599]

They say it’s done for driver safety and other road users safety but who else here thinks it’s a bit complicated using U.K.& EU rules & it’s done to catch drivers out to generate more income ie fines for the driver or company for breaking said rules. Don’t they think the driver has enough to think about just driving a rig with safety checks and delivery time slots etc

[@TheColinAndMindyShow]

it sounds complicated but i have done 13 years on the coaches across the uk and across europe and when put into practice it is alot more simply, but when your doing this in your head with no context it is alot more harder.

[@liviumititelu7397]

I just passed my Class 2. now I am looking for work... I did understand everything apart from the sleep hours breeak hours... You must take 11h break but 3 days you are allowed to take 9h break.. is that per every week? I will get it finnaly when I am in fact

[@steviespaind4307]

Holy shit! I´m just thinking about getting back to HGV work after a 30 year layoff. This seriously is making me think twice about it.

[@savilledarren]

Exactly and they wonder why there's a driver shortage.

[@garyhewitt489]

Still got it licence? Think you can just go work? Think again Got a valid driver's CPC have we? No Well look into it It's the real crock m8

[@Dzacu4]

great video

[@xj358]

One serious safety issue which is never addressed is the abuse of agency drivers rest time. Companies just like Asda think nothing of calling up the agency at 4 or 5 in the afternoon requesting for a driver to cover a night shift. The agency then call numerous drivers until they get someone who is prepared to stay up all night without any sleep to take on a 12 hour shift. This practice should have been outlawed many years ago but goes on every single day with some of the UKs biggest trucking companies and agencies. The remedy is very simple and should be set by law. Agency drivers who maybe required to work on a night shift should be advised at the end of the previous week that they are on standby for the following week and paid for each shift even if they are subsequently not required. It should be unlawful for an agency to supply a driver for a nightshift who is not on a formal paid standby rota and hasn't been given at least 48 hours notice of the nightshift. Trucking companies wouldn't do it to their permanent drivers but think nothing of expecting an agency driver to stay up all night without any sleep. Unfortunately, this extremly unsafe practice has fallen through the cracks of driver hour laws for many years and has always made a mockery of the UKs alleged strict stance on driver hours and rest time.

[@kevinthacker8349]

That remind me of when I was a London night bus driver, would be due a night off, so would stay awake most of the day , then get a phone call to work that night around 9 pm ( when thinking about going to bed ) because a driver had gone sick. Management never like when I Wouldn’t work

[@avonmouthfitter2545]

Then do as I've done and do tell um to get stuffed they can't sack you

[@JoseNunes]

By law (The Working Time Regulations 1998), employees and workers have the right to the following rest: during the working day - 20-minute rest break if they're expected to work more than 6 hours during the day. between working days - 11 hours' rest between finishing work and starting work. unfortunately workers/drivers are like prostitutes and money is the drug they give you when they want you to forget about your basic rights and freedoms.

[@ballykaur8310]

thank you for this video it's really good

[@absly5]

i can still drive as many hours as i like, happy to do 14/16 hours straight - the joys of HGV showmans...

[@leprechaunshelper]

So glad I left the industry no other job makes a simple thing so complicated and it doesn’t need to be

[@paullacey748]

It’s open to abuse and always will be depending who you work for. i.e. Supermarket delivery. Start at 03:00 finish 1700. 14 hrs. Start following day 03:00. If you finish at 17:00 then have to travel home about 30 mins, that’s home at 17:30. Dinner about 18:00. Bed about 20:00 up at 02:00. 6 hrs sleep? Not enough especially when going into another long shift. Different if doing nights out. Being based at home, the system let’s the drivers down

[@voice.of.reason]

Fuck that, nobody can drive safely on just 6 hours sleep. And I will not start at 3am or even 6 am for any money. That's the middle of the fucking night!

[@English.Andy1]

Ridiculous over complicated system. Using two completely different rules EU/UK is crazy.

[@johngraham5996]

will the EU rules be dropped now we have left?

[@CoherentChimp]

@@johngraham5996 Govt. have said that CPC and EU rules will continue in line with existing rules.

[@Turkiye958]

WTF ! I’m trying to come off buses and do class 1 but this is insane

[@BullshitMan4]

Mehmet Yilmaz don’t do it

[@jblack57]

its simple after some time :)

[@xj358]

As someone who drove for many years under UK/EU rules before becoming a road train truck driver Down Under, I can confirm that UK driving hours are nothing short of complete nonsense. In Australia there is no difference between driving and other work, allowing a basic day of 12 hours which is inclusive of all work performed regardless of whether its driving or other work. I'm sure that the general public in the UK would be astonished to learn that an alleged fatigued driver who may have already driven 9 hours, could effectively undertake a further 5 hours of Other back breaking tiresome work, possibly unloading the truck by hand, before then being allowed to utilise a final hour of driving. Its about time that the UK government finally addressed the issue of Other Work because as most drivers will tell you, they are far more likely to be fatigued after conducting other work than they are from actually driving the truck. Simply make it an all inclusive day of work regardless of what work is being performed.

[@xj358]

@@paulway5045 Yes, from my experience the UK/EU try to portray that they are very tough on the hours people can drive but when you throw in the ridiculous amount of other work also allowed within the same day, then it makes a mockery of the of that alleged tough position. Here in Australia drivers can also work up to 15 hours a day if they have completed a fatigue management program and the vehicle operator is also enrolled in fatigue management operations which requires live in cab monitoring. If not, it's then just a basic 12 hour day. Further to that, if you stay within a 100km radius of your base, then there is no log book or recording of driver hours required. You are still only allowed to work for 12 hours but you don't have to actually record anything.

[@ahorsewithnoname643]

In NZ it used to be 11 hours driving and 3 hours work in a 24 hour period. They scrapped that because to many were driving in work time (paper log books). Now its 13 hours with 2x 1/2 hour breaks (max 5 1/2 hour continuous) followed by 10 hours off. After 6 days you must have a break of 24 hours minimum to reset your hours.

[@garyhewitt489]

Yep Drivers hrs is bull Noone seems to realise how much work you can be expected to do and how the break times abused so they just actually extend your working day. Example Leave 7am Drive very short distance take 15 mins for coffee. Then drive/work 4.5/6 hrs . Take 30 mins food toilet phone the Mrs. So now it's 13,45. Drive work another 4.5 /6 hrs. Now it's 19.45. If your not parked yet take another 45 minutes break 20.30 Drive another HR 21.30 Trust me your knackered. Start again in 11 hrs time probably having spent the night with trucks pulling in out all night and that effing fridge unit parked next to you blaring away all night

[@johnnydollars1715]

Johnny G That would be a fantastic idea and easier for drivers too, but it’s not about trying to simplify the working/driving hours it’s about profiteering from the working man/woman. If I was to drive a delivery van with tacho exemptions from Lands End to John O Groats I can do that quite freely without any bother from the authorities and return the same day if I wish. Madness🤯🤯🤯

[@Buckblacket]

You make it sound like all drivers are 'handballing' 30 tonne loads as their 'other work' hours. The truth is however, the other work almost always consists of waiting in queues etc much of which is spent on the bunk.

[@elvisGT]

DVSA stopped me once, they examined my tacho for nearly 45 minutes. Was I allowed to take a break ? Be available for work ? Or work ? They give you a slip, but rules are the rules ey ?

[@nirnoysarkar2426]

Best rules and regulations video for beginners.

[@user-fg8up7ps9b]

Very good and helpful.

[@captainredneck0683]

That's way more complicated than the U.S hours of service!

[@brucewright319]

How do you get anything done over there? I thought the U.S. was over regulated.

[@jamieuk5751]

I find this very confusing I have just got my Class 2 and I feel quite nervous about drivers hours

[@AtTheEnd1000]

Ye, I'll start my classes tomorrow and these hours make me nervous

[@Daniel-wb4lr]

It's easy after a while (hgv driver for 15 years)

[@garyhewitt489]

Ha ha When tachos first came in another driver was a bit confused so I explained to him Steering wheel for driving Bed for sleeping For your breaks Knife n fork if you go to cafe Box with diagonal if you just have a sandwich. He did it too, for about a year noone noticed. Things were so easy then. 3 x15 minutes breaks etc but now so much euro working hrs,driver CPC an the traffics a nightmare. Back then it was great no sat nav ,no phone no tracking the trucks were harder to drive, the loading unloading harder but lots more independence and fun.

[@paulthomas3841]

Ye, it was harder then but a Good Laugh, I miss them days, no Police pulling us up every week, Dddeeerrr

[@Nixter1974007]

I worked with a guy once who kept getting infringements. He thought crossed hammers ie other work was a knife and fork 🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mozzbromozzbro4063]

i bet some one working in an office made this up

[@paulfrankcom71]

The explanation for the working time breaks are incorrect on the last scenario. If you working day is between 6-9 hours a break or breaks of at least 30 minutes must be taken. If your working after 9 hours then a further 15 minutes before you under take more work. In the last scenario it clearly shows a 10 hour shift with only 15 minutes of break illegal.

[@johnfreeman8256]

Paul Frankcom You are wrong. The video is correct. If u work over 9 hrs u must take breaks totalling 45mins. These can be taken in blocks of 15 mins as long as it’s not at the start or end of your shift and as long as u don’t work for more than 6hrs in one go. Regards.

[@paulfrankcom71]

@@johnfreeman8256 Hi John, if you freeze the video at 4 minutes 33 seconds the wkd senario clearly shows 6hwork 15break 4h work 15 break. Thats 10hours not nine.That's what I was referring to. On my explanation I'm correct. Regards Paul.

[@johnfreeman8256]

Paul Frankcom hi. Your still not correct. It doesn’t matter about 9 or 10 in this scenario as long as u stick to the rules. If u watch between 3:26-4:10 it states the rules for wtd. It’s the total length of the shift that determines the amount of break required. This can be taken in chunks of 15mins as long as u don’t work more than 6 hours in one go.

[@andrewappleyard796]

In trying to learn my drivring hours before my CPC mod 2 test and wow my head just went boom . I have my test in 3 days I didn't think it was this complained lol

[@gary63693]

Why did you leave it this late to study them? and by the way, did you pass?

[@Tomsfootiediary]

I’ve got mine in 2 days just started revising

[@MsPauline1983]

The PC test should be for new drivers not the ones that have been driving all their lives that's one reason I retired early

[@petegalloway2466]

Seems pretty straight forward 😅 And I thought the hardest thing would be doing the driving 🤣

[@kenya1mwai210]

Too much to digest....just passed my C1,just wondering if iam on the right career!

[@DavidVT486]

Yes don't worry, it becoming easy after a while

[@adamnunn8239]

i am trying to practice for my test and dont see why they are telling me about break from work when the theory test only asks about the 45 break every 4.30 hours

[@jamieshannon9809]

I'm off to do some calculus & mathematical physics just to stop my brain hurting.

[@fusiliers1]

OMFUCKINGOD Even my calculator had trouble with hes calculations

[@johnsykes2125]

Thank God I only do local day work now don't think my brain could take this in lmao

[@wsjon]

John Sykes alright mate I’m looking into doing my class 2 are there jobs I can get with like normal hours?

[@voice.of.reason]

This video is actually a great advert to convince people NOT to ever become a lorry driver.

[@ganjabreak1474]

Got the information I needed, , I want to know who made these rules up tho, cos he must of been off his rocker started at a point then rolled with it funny thing is whrn you do driver training you don't get taught how to do the digi card cos they are exempt

[@kbrickell4732]

drivers hour needs simplifying to max of 7.5 hours of driving a day. x 1,5 hourly pay for Saturday and double time and same hours as holiday in lieu. I would not drive a HGV 1 for leas than 20GBP and hour.

[@CoherentChimp]

The haulage industry is the most highly regulated in Europe. More laws and regulations to comply with by businesses and drivers than nuclear power stations. 😁

[@davidbeach7187]

My God, what a bloody nightmare over there.

[@andrewlee6576]

So if I 45 hours a week work for a HGV company. I can't do a completely different job like stacking shelves for 16 hours on top of the 45 hours?

[@ananthrajah2743]

very helpful info

[@lvcianalpha2122]

hello ,I would like to know if I work 14h is like 15.ok.but instead to take just 9 hours I take 11 hours break i break the rulls ? thanx!

[@pinkyman5155]

So confusing !!!!!!!!!!!!! Been driving hgvs for years, my maths is shit, still cannot get my head around this ................. HELP !

[@Nightskyvibes1]

Did you manage it? This is the part that I'm finding really hard

[@pinkyman5155]

@@Nightskyvibes1 Not really, my son is really good at maths and even he said he was totally confused, two sets of rules makes it more difficult 😩

[@countycricklewood]

Just completed CPC. I was left utterly confused regarding Tacho, rest etc

[@jhonnydasbr5367]

Any changes since then, or is the information still valid?

[@rusest2593]

Good video and all but you can fix the mistake on 4:33

[@peternufc81]

Some shit to take in this like..ive got my class 2 test in the moring and this shit batters my napper

[@Benjaminpalfrey34]

Pistol Pete did you pass ??

[@peternufc81]

Trucking In the uk i did in deed mate i got 5 miners . Was a rush hour test in the morning i pissed it ha ... thanks for asking mate 👍

[@wogsxbl4866]

Pistol Pete how old you have to be to drive a 40 tonner

[@Benjaminpalfrey34]

21 in uk to drive a 40 tonner, 18 on a young drivers scheme or 17 in the army

[@Benjaminpalfrey34]

Pistol Pete congrats mate

[@gazzc]

What do you do if you are stuck in traffic when your hours are up and you can't just stop and sleep right there in the middle of the motorway?

[@garyhewitt489]

You exceed your hrs So do two printouts explaining your reasons for exceeding hrs, slap on wrist naughty boy. Keep one printout in case visa stop you, hand other into your transport manager. You covered as long as you don't make a habit of it or take the piss.

[@steveluckhurst2350]

you can if you are foreign. ever been on the m25 after a delay? there are loads of them and the cops don't bother them.

[@voice.of.reason]

Good question and nobody mentions this

[@PillSharks]

Thankfully I left the industry after 6 years of long distance work, best thing I ever did.... if I never sit behind the wheel or sleep in the bunk of a lorry again then that's fine with me!

[@ImaginaryAsh]

Any other driving jobs you would recommend over HGV?

[@PillSharks]

Ash I only ever drove wagons professionally, this was mainly 44tons... I hated container work which was lucky as I only ever did a small amount of this, fridge and curtain sides I enjoyed and anything long distance you normally get left alone to get on with the job!

[@doms6741]

Confused at 6:00 what does it mean you can do 9and a half twice only, then saying you can do 10 hours..

[@durhamhighwayman9640]

you can exceed 9 hrs twice a week only.

[@harrymayer872]

Like like like 1000000000000000 like well done

[@mberone8649]

So is it 6 hours or 4.5??? Make up your mind.

[@leelizington9501]

6 hrs is working time directive,4.5 hrs is driving regulations which takes president over WTD so eg you could drive 4hrs 25 mins and still do 1hr 35 of other duties working time then take a break,you could actually do 15min rest do 5 mins drive and take a 30 min break at this point but a 45 min break would reset both WTD and working time.WTD is always rolling but is quite easy to work out.

[@markchurch629]

Done for safety, total bollocks, driver still can be driving legally after 14hrs working/driving total crap glad I retired early

[@paulthomas3841]

you right Mate, I was a warehouse Man, yardman on FLT, and a Deliver driver, so I was on off the Taco

[@grantwhite7337]

This is insane.

[@nathanmayer711]

I was working 53 hours a week. Is that legal or not🤷🏻‍♂️

[@kanu6532]

This part is confusing. At 2:42 he say that I need to take a break before 4,5 hours of driving but in case at 2:42 he show other work of 30min and at 3:25 he say that work include driving so by his example at the case of 2:42 is 6 hours of work which violates the law.

[@muzzf2]

Did you get your answers? Easy way to do it is take 15 minutes 3 hours into your shift that count to your 6 hours working. Then when you get to 430 driving take 30 minutes that covers your driving time and 45 minutes working time

[@kanu6532]

I find out. Thank you for you answer and helpful information.

[@gabrieltdu5780]

but if somebody choses that opt out agreement.can a driver have more than 90 hours in 2 consecutive weeks?

[@Chris-fy8rk]

No, that is the MAX driving time. Your talking about the working more than 48 hours in a working week?

[@rickh5456]

It takes a 17 minute video just to explain the basics. Said video starts by saying you have to follow two different sets of hours regulations. This is utterly insane and tells you all you need to know about why you should not be thinking about becoming a truck driver!

[@MsPauline1983]

And then another video to explain the first video

[@webbo5237]

pretty easy really once you use it every day take your first break at 5and half hours for 30 mins -that covers your 6 and 9 hr working time directive , come off break and either work for another 530 hours or until you have got close to your driving hours which ever comes first and take another 30 mins break. best way too keep clean , or if you do mainly driving you would need to clear up your driving hours probably before the six hour rule and just take a 45 min , which will reset the driving hours again

[@truckertom3884]

webbo yes but u can only drive 4:30 at a time not 5:30 so how are u able go over that by an hour I don't understand

[@CraigToddOfficial]

@@truckertom3884 Work is allowed up to 6 hours... anything other than driving or 4.5 hours driving and have a 45 min break and start another 4.5 hours driving.

[@terrence9996]

What about wages more important. Good wage good driver.

[@MrTheomighty1]

Can someone please tell me what breaks I need to be taking if I drive a class 2 skip truck. I usually get to 6hrs working time directive before my driving hours are up. So then I have a 45 minute break which then rests my driving hours. Then I work another 5-5.30 mins working time directive but only around 3-4hr driving do I need to take another break ? So I nearly or get really close to 12hr days

[@yummyEnchilada]

What are they going to do If I make my delivery without stopping for a break? fire me? ;)

[@liviumititelu7397]

They can do that if you are an asshole but I heard if u honest with employer and you are kinda new they will forgivr you ... if police dvsa stops you then I think its bad

[@paulthomas3841]

Ye, I was by 1 ferm, in Nottingham, so I said I'll leave the Lorry here, I drove back to my step dad farm and put lorry under a tin roof barn, you know why I did that

[@ryanhornibrook4051]

s it at all possible for people with autistic spectrum disorder. to become hgv drivers ? if not im leaving the uk for ever i have had 2 or 3 life appemts when i was about 23 24 not had any ever since in the past been on meds i should never of been on is there any light at the end of the tunnel for me ? i just really wanna drive a hgv befour my life is up current age is 26

[@zaraparadise]

Not enough rest time to be honest. Needs changing break not even an hours worth no wonder accidents are high

[@petermc1743]

30 seconds in and Ms Thornley is already vilifying drivers. And so it continues. Funny that ...

[@danlaplain8212]

Being dyslexic all this is very confusing my math is not my strong area 😔

[@scarlet9323]

Been driving 17 years n never done mega hours. Until now, it seems massively over complicated. Is this just so we mess up and they can fine us?. Just keep it simple!. Love driving but hate all these rules.

[@CraigToddOfficial]

That's EXACTLY what it is for. Confuse you to get money from you and the operator/company.

[@Beef1188]

Technically speaking, aren't drivers actually resting during periods of availability?

[@Chris-fy8rk]

YEs in a way but, im not enjoying my spare time in a small office with 15 other drivers moaning about late trailers

[@English.Andy1]

For that reason I never POA. Pointless mode that doesn’t make sense. You either working or you’re not (resting)

[@tonybutler8263]

Not really. What this vid doesn't show is that you can only use POA if the time on POA is known in advance. For example, if I turn up at an RDC and there's a big queue I can ask the office staff how long I'm going to be waiting. If they say "2 hours", I can POA for 2 hours. If they say "dunno mate", I can't use POA. Same as a breakdown, if my office tells me they'll get a mechanic out to me in 90 minutes, I can use POA; if they say they'll get to me as soon as possible, then I can't use POA. In both of the above cases, I will need to stay with the vehicle, and it therefore cannot be classed as rest.

[@dustdriver115]

Please can anybody explain me how is it possible to work 13-14 hours a day, I met sono drivers who do it 🤔

[@paulconstantin4760]

You can work 15 hours a day , two days a week . In this 15 Working hours you will include break time 9h driving time ( which can be extended to 10h driving T just for two days a week) other works ( hammers ) or period of availability . Doing so you have to take now a reduced 9hrs daily break ( h bed time ). 15+9 = 24 hrs . If you work 13h and one second it will consider 15h day . 13h work time + 11 hrs regular daily break = 24 hrs day .

[@paulconstantin4760]

In this video they didn't mention that we can split the regular daily rest of 11h in two . 3 h of unetrrupted bed time + 9 hrs of bed time at the end of the day

[@johnfreeman8256]

paul constantin I think they did.

[@derekpela]

Got more than ons card swap em n poor foot down.. Lol

[@carlkimmer5662]

Small fine ha hahaha you forget to take your cards out means £300 fine you driving over your time 5 minutes £120 my friend as just got £ 1300 for 4 infringements he appealed against the decision and was banned from driving for 3weeks and we work's on grabs like me it's mostly parked on a site working the crane it's a joke vosa self sufficient every time someone gets stopped your guaranteed to get a fine

[@paulthomas3841]

God, no wonder nobody is going in to HGV,

[@dustdriver115]

Please can anybody tell me if it is legal to work 6 hours a day Monday to Friday in a job that is not a driving job and then to drive a lorry every Saturday?

[@Mircea020]

If in your contract says you're a truck driver but you only do other work and just a day a week you drive , by the end of the shift you must get your hands on a digital tachograph and make a manual entry with your activity ; in the given circumtances - other work.

[@essexandy189]

you can't have 3 15 min breaks so how old is this

[@finfase1026]

you can under domestic hours which is what it is relating too...…………………

[@grigoreoctavianpupazan]

2010

[@grigoreoctavianpupazan]

15:52

[@bobbit6985]

For WTD you can

[@TheSgtsMess]

And we wonder why there is a shortage of drivers

[@ivanashley7875]

So to sum up take a break when the law says and not when your tired, thirsty or hungry, Of course you can take a break when your tired, thirsty or hungry, you just have to explain it during your disciplinary and who knows, you may get away with it 'once'.

[@voice.of.reason]

If I do not get a job doing a straightforward run of 8 or 9 hours a day and home for tea I'm not becoming a lorry driver for any money. If you only do 8 -9 hours (including 'other work') 5 days a week then you don't have to worry about all this bullshit.

[@jaandil2432]

Its just too too complicaited for my brain....hence i want to move on to another job....

[@garrycrocker331]

I am a driver, what a mind fuck, to many rules & regs!!

[@pinkyman5155]

Bring back log books

[@calummccormack9611]

I think it’s better to put on the magnet now it’s easy

[@The_minion1]

Is this on the HGV test?

[@stuartpattison1576]

Some of it is in the theory a few questions. it is easy.

[@English.Andy1]

Just the basic day. I wouldn’t worry about double manning regs etc

[@mikeclark4416]

You can see why Drivers are leaving the industry fast . I used to driver HGV1 --Tankers Ect . I wont ever return to any of it

[@toont6749]

Vosa partly to blame for the driver shortages now hope they are happy when they go home and there's no food on the table because there's nothing in the supermarkets because they've thinned all the drivers out

[@roderickcozens5371]

As clear as mud

[@doms6741]

Learning this for a test... Still don't get it

[@theequalizer3330]

This was made to catch you out and fine your ass, been a hgv driver for 3 years and I still don’t get it 🤣🤣🤣. If you think this is complicated then wait till you learn about double crew, then shit gets really fucked up 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@johnjustjohn8168]

hahaha.. i would like to know driver who knows all that.. i ll just take breake every 4 hours for 45 minutes and end my shift before 9 hours .. ? am i good :) ..?

[@recalcitrantable]

And don't work more than every other Saturday or Sunday, don't have another job If you're doing night work you will need to opt out of Working Time Directive Put your card in for every journey, and keep it in Put your tacho on for the walkaround check Get your mode switches right Then you're probably good.

[@recalcitrantable]

Oh. and make a record if you're late for a break, as soon as you park up. Then you're probably good.

[@theequalizer3330]

Nope, you may go over your working time which is 6 hours, you got to watch the 6 hours don’t run out before the 4 1/2 hours

[@ericparton1232]

Working time directive is not law no driver has been prosecuted in this country for this offence.

[@allanchalmers9778]

Yea and they said it wasn't a spy in the cab that's exactly what it was.

[@michaelashcraft8569]

I'm going to stick to ditch digging, or, professional wrestling! Work for yourself in the U.S., run two or three books, and, go, go, go!!