Driving over 600 km in a single charge with VW ID7 Pro

[@TiborPichner]

I have the same ID.7 car, the only difference is that it has a white interior. It's 4 months old and I drove 14,000 km with it. I love it. Many people worry unnecessarily about charging and range. Low consumption and fast charging, long journeys are no problem.

[@SS-yw7vo]

Agree re range and efficiency. Road trips stop every 2 or 3 hours and charge for 30 mins

[@brickboystudio2823]

Thanks Bjørn, no one believes me when I tell them about the low consumption in my ID7 just the same car as you drives here👍

[@Tom-bp6no]

Great to see high efficiency. Thanks for testing.

[@NickBouwhuis]

Nice to see other brands than Tesla can make efficient - and overall nice - electric cars. Good looks, good efficiency. Good car.

[@Beamer_i4_M50]

Well. My i4 M50 is at 18,5 kWh / 100 km overall. 30.000 on it. I am pretty sure a Tesla M3P is not extremely more efficient. There a lot of good alternatives on the market already.

[@quentinlangenaken7851]

My bmw IX1 xDrive30 (dual motor) is at 16kwh/100km in average (16000km) and 15 since june. And I’ve made a lot of highway this Summer. Im very happy with it

[@fredrikz]

@@Beamer_i4_M50 I had a 2021 m3 LR a while back and drove between Sibiu and Bucharest (Romania) with an average of 117 wh/km. The new LR is even better, and the m3p from 2020-2023 would not be far behind.

[@rio8677]

Love my ID7❤I see 550km in the summer here in Germany and I dont hold back on Autobahn😊

[@gheorghiualex]

anything over 110kmh constantly and battery degradation will kick in very fast. Electric cars are not good for going fastest possible on autobahn

[@muramarco01]

​@@gheorghiualexany data to back that up?

[@gheorghiualex]

@@muramarco01 There isnt any study made afaik. But given the nature of batteries, BMC can manage it up to some point. However, if the battery gets too hot and it is being requested to maintain the high speeds (or if one acelerates and breaks all the time - this is actually the worst), it is possible BMS could not keep up due to energy it would use being already in use by the high speed. A second argument would be: I would believe that the faster you discharge the more often you need to charge (because you use the amount of electricity stored in the battery faster) so then more cycles your battery will require to travel the same distance you would travel if you went slower. It's as if your fuel tabk would slowly rust every time you fuel so then you need to fuel less often so you keep it longer in good shape. If you buy an EV then I guess it is a problem. If you lease it, you might not care. However, recycling batteries has proven extremely difficult if not impossible so the more you care about the environment because you got an EV the more you want to preserve the battery in good shape I believe.

[@rio8677]

@@gheorghiualex and ICE Vars are best when they go fast on the Autobahn all the time...😄

[@cordkretzschmar5693]

@@rio8677 That is true. But dirty.

[@koshnarnarek5910]

Your road infrastructure in Norway is so incredibly well maintained. We're very jealous of you in Quebec, Canada!

[@jyztrik]

Nope, he just drives on the nice roads..

[@HanYou2]

Amazing results considering the wheels. Battery life did a test to compare with the 19 inch wheels and got about 40 more km with them. I ordered the 86kwh model, I am very excited to get the car and go on road trips next summer with these results!

[@SoloPerICommenti]

In the test he had 20in sport tires, not the standard ones

[@HanYou2]

@@SoloPerICommenti yes I mean you can still get 40km more with standard wheels and 77kwh battery. It should really go way over 700km with the bigger battery and standard wheels which I ordered :D

[@SoloPerICommenti]

@@HanYou2 I ordered the Pro S tourer, instead

[@HanYou2]

@@SoloPerICommenti Congrats! I wanted to but apparently Romania is a third world country and nobody knows when it will be available :/. At least I get the best range possible

[@c0d3_m0nk3y]

23:40 As a German, I approve the mispronunciation of WLTP range (we also confuse W "double-u" and V "wee" all the time).

[@MrVeeBlog]

This was amazing Bjorn. I trust you'll be able to get back safely. All the best to you and yours.

[@ALCLCFVIS]

VW group is going the right way. Along with Kia/Hyundai/Tesla those would be my choices if getting another EV

[@JohanWS]

I would like to see ID7 Tourer tests

[@MEeg-r3k]

They will come soon

[@wpelfeta]

I hope this comes to the US. Looks like a great car.

[@djvidual8288]

@13:50 Damn, that looks really tight. I had to drive in Norway once on my vacation. Some streets are really narrow. Big respect for dealing with it daily :D

[@N1ckZ]

LOL, if you think that's narrow you haven't seen anything. There are many many roads in many European countries narrower than this one. You have to slow down a lot to make sure there's enough space for both cars.

[@OenkePoenke]

The "plant" at 12:37 is called "reindeer lichen" or "cream cup lichen" in English and hedrenlav in Swedish, I didn't quickly find a Norsk translation (or "Flechte" in German), but "lav" seems to be the familiy name (there are lots of other types of lichen of course) indeed for both, Swedish and Norsk. Lichen / Lav is not a plant, but actually a symbiosis of algae and fungi - and it's an indicator for very good air quality, of which there is plenty in the norsk highlands of course ✌🙂

[@Zedus-rl9hp]

Yes, it pretty much matches our experience during the test days when we had the ID7. The best ID so far, very comfortable to travel, but still has some weaknesses - including the software. So it's not the best choice for our company, as the layout of the vehicle itself isn't ideal for us.

[@Let_the_nonsense_blaze.]

Noticed the gas price in Norway is over 25 NOK per litre. That's quite something. No wonder people have gone mostly electric there now.

[@LuftdroneDk]

Epic trip and great results in that ID7! We were just on a familytrip from Denmark to Oslo via Gothenburg "in da Buzz" and also did a one day trip to Elverum. When we passed "Cle@vage" and "Yes-heim" I thought of you and all the stops you have done in your tests :D Oddly enough the roads in Oslo city are rather bad, especially towards our hotel at Holmenkollen whereas the regular roads further north were way better. How would you rate the ID7 vs ID Buzz when it comes to driver comfort/suspension etc?

[@King97044]

Grazie.

[@rainermenes5921]

I hope for you the cars won’t reach much more range than that otherwise you sit 12 hours plus in the car 😂. I am more than happy with my range. My ID.7 has much longer power in the battery than I. Means driving my ID.7 is on par with a Diesel for me. The 2000 km to Stockholm has shown this. I will try the 600 km when time permits later this summer .

[@LelouchLamperouge235]

Seen one with Wolfsburg plates, probably company car. It does look good irl.

[@Buzzzz]

I’d love one. Hopefully the price will come down for me. It’s till not in my price range.

[@xmtxx]

The fact that you had to stop multiple times, to pee, and pause a little bit, shows how useless such range is (except in some edge cases, maybe). Thanks for the test! One positive thing about this car, is its efficiency. It would be even better if they reduced the battery capacity (and weight in the same time)

[@Timmahh85]

Pish posh, you know diesel drivers always drive 1400km per tank at high speed through Germany with a caravan and 1 pee break from northern Europe to Italy, Spain and what not. So obviously this is not near good enough yet. 🙄

[@xmtxx]

@@Timmahh85 one pee break? Come on. Real men piss in a bottle. "Ain't nobody got time for that"... ;) What a shame.

[@speedismyfriend]

I am sure that there are plenty of families like mine that share the driving, so we barely stop for more than a few minutes when in a hurry.

[@xmtxx]

@@speedismyfriend Yeah, and those families all pee in a bottle, and don't eat. Of course.... Whenever I share driving, we still stop for 20 mn, to pee, and grab something to eat, stretch our legs.

[@ddelimar]

I wouldn't say it useless, but most can manage even without such a range.

[@nebulajumper6216]

This would even be better with 19' tires (I red it could improve between 5-10%)

[@jasonblair4057]

I am curious to see if VW will bring this car to Canada. It is a good second generation ev from VW.

[@florianwagner7279]

Nicely done👍 Please allow the question: How do you drive 650 km, having a speed limit of 80 km/h and don‘t get mad or fall a sleep? (I guess i would)

[@Artificial-Hell]

Great review as always. Question did Tesla just kill Marcusbil?

[@bjornnyland]

No

[@Artificial-Hell]

@@bjornnyland glad to hear, damn news!

[@Balud-j8m]

Beautiful car on a beautiful route. Maybe you can share some of your routes as a better route planner link? We will go on holiday later this year from the Netherlands to Norway. Would be nice to drive this route. Thx Bjørn

[@yesloow]

What is the verdict on the glass roof? Does it block out infrared? Or is it letting it through and therefore light heats up the interior? Not sure I want constant sunlight coming through the opaque roof out here in California.

[@johnminshall242]

Nice car; would opt for a LR Tourer on 19s or 20s!

[@marclgt]

We also achieve a consumption of 11.5 kWh per 100 with our ID4 Pro 2022! On the country road, where we are allowed to drive between 70 and 100 km. So not a record value!

[@bjornnyland]

km = distance km/h = speed

[@jasonallatt5410]

Excellent! 💪

[@funkyx486]

Bjorn please do trailer test, this might be my next towcar for my caravan.

[@tobiascelik3607]

Can you do the same test with a Mach e rwd extended range with 18" rims and Bridgestone tyres apparently just recently it broke the world Guiness record with going like 560miles on a single charge.

[@eaokalle9112]

We need a camping test of ID7 Tourer.

[@sargfowler9603]

What all BEVs should be!

[@volvocars5189]

Have you done any sunday driving with the Ioniq 6? I guess it won't beat ID.7 or TM3, even though having a efficient body style.

[@dragoscucu3128]

For Sunday drivers, Sunday driving is just... driving 😀

[@marcelbeaucamp9330]

I am so curious to see you in the new A6 E tron 🤩

[@godofdun]

So sad we may never see this in the US

[@marcel151]

When do you try the 86 kWh (net capacity) Pro S and/or GTX? The 77 kWh (net capacity) Pro version is long on the market now. Would be nice to know if 700 km is possible.

[@airestocky]

why would you need 700 km of range?? just make a 20 minutes break after driving 3 hours and recharge the car for the next 2 or 3 hour tour and thats it. 350 or 400 km is absolut enough - no need for such big and heavy batteries at all!

[@M-hq9xz]

​​@@airestockyIt's not necessarily needed, but if you get such a big car as the ID.7 it makes sense to get the bigger battery. If you only need the 77 kWh battery the much smaller ID.4 is the better option imo. And the bigger battery should age better with more range left.

[@rolandjarrett611]

Because of winter, 50 % drop in range at -25 C. ​@@airestocky

[@marcel151]

@@airestocky Who said that I want to drive 700 km in one go? Think about people who can‘t charge at home for example. Charging speed, easier having the battery in it‘s recommended SOC (20%-80%) for better battery health, winter conditions or battery aging are other examples. So why not test them?! Also the bigger battery versions will get better used prices. I would consider the big battery when buying a 10 year old car. ;-) See? Many reasons. Even if not, these cars do exist and it would be nice to know if the extra 9 kWh are worth the cost.

[@felixarkang5414]

@@airestocky The price diffreneces is just €1k better to just go with big battery then also higher charghing speed

[@AgentSmith911]

Why do so many of these EVs have horrible ground clearance? I'm looking for a station wagon, but the ID7 wagon has a ground clearance of only 15 cm while the V90 Cross Country has 23 cm. I guess it's because efficiency is everything? Will there be an off road version of ID7?

[@Cosmycal]

Yeah, it's a tradeoff, more ground clearance gives worse aerodynamics at high speeds and with it less range. My Nissan Ariya has 20cm of clearance and it affects efficiency at high speeds of course.

[@kain0m]

I see it the other way around, finally an EV that doesn't look like an SUV (yes, I know, Tesla, but I have moral issues with that guy)

[@andrazlogar861]

Poach batteries dont really promise longevity nor reasonable repair prices. Thats why VAG is moving to prismatic.

[@emilburtea617]

Make a test with new scenic electric,i believe you have the same rezulte,perhaps even better

[@jartusanta]

Great and long achivement!!!

[@ericvet8b]

It feels so weird seeing the maps and actually knowing where you are and those places!! Come to Norway on holiday.. I’m actually in Stranda, near Geiranger now while watching this video. Been to Bergen, Ålesund… And passed a few places and suddenly realised : hey!! That’s where Bjorn goes through, etc, like Gol… 😊😊.

[@ericvet8b]

Hair cut!! 💇‍♂️ 🎉

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

now imagine the battery prices dropping by 50%, then a BEV is cheaper than an ICE car to buy

[@TheJ1s]

Here in the US this car been delayed until 2025.

[@TheJensss]

Velkommen tilbake VW. 100 000 for dyr, men dette er virkelig en start på å komme tilbake i et elbilmarked dominert av Tesla, Kinesiske og Koreanske biler. Håper man begynner med open source programvare og tilrettelegger for vesentlig enklere vedlikehold av bilene. Tesla sin diagnoseorogramvare er håpløst dyr og burde vært inkludert i bilen ved kjøp...

[@MalibuGT]

Great!!

[@Togkanalen]

Yeah 🎉

[@petertraveller6421]

Maybe it's amazing car, but put all together, the car and the price, in my point of view the total goes down from amazing to average.

[@frankcooper8252]

Can you add SOH on car scanner?

[@bjornnyland]

SoH is incorrect for most cars.

[@frankcooper8252]

@@bjornnyland Do you know why?

[@mrmerm]

When Lucid Air 😅

[@yj.c.]

When they decide to sell in Europe. Until then it's impossible to get one there. (remember that Bjørn lives in Norway)

[@mrmerm]

@@yj.c. they are selling in Europe but very expressive

[@yj.c.]

@@mrmerm I stand corrected, thanks.

[@tommyganz492]

How about some new background music in your content?

[@fredrikz]

Could do almost 600 km without changing in a Tesla model S Plaid recently. Lommedalen (south of Oslo) - Verdal. But people with range anxiety would not have been able to handle it 😂. 30% wet road and no hypermiling (slow driving) even passed several cars.

[@olasevandersson9215]

So much talk about onlyfans 😂

[@tridrean]

❤❤❤

[@0-Will-0]

Can't wait to leave my leaky, uncomfortable and noisy Tesla behind me and not give any more money to Elon.

[@magnuslarsson337]

I agree about the rear camera quality; it’s like car models from 15+ years ago 🤦🏼‍♂️ My personal experience is that VW cars have many problems with flickering/glitching reversing cameras, maybe due to bad connectors, cables, or poor electronics design. The AWB (auto white balance) is like a webcam from the early 2000s. It ruins the car experience, and IMO, it’s also a safety issue, a waste of environmental resources, and a destruction of money because it leads to accidents and damaged cars. It's very unnecessary because I bet a 1 Euro higher-priced camera would be multiple times better. But we don’t have to bother because the Chinese consumers do not tolerate 15+ old technology, parts, cameras, displayes and Chips(ICs), etc., and VW will go out of business or at least be a long way from being the 2nd largest automaker.

[@BBKing-yh3gn]

Where do you get WLTP number of 582km from? When I go in the configurator for this exact car on VW Norway, it displays 611km of WLTP for ID.7 Pro Exclusive

[@oijhhytdirhrbru]

rolling resistance matters. A sporty can easily have 30% more than the standard low resistance tyres(usually around 0.65% for ID models).

[@bjornnyland]

Møller Bil which is the importer of VW in Norway wrote in an email to me that this press car has 582 km of WLTP.

[@MartinNyholmJelle]

It's 582 km likely due to 20" tires and glass roof is quite heavy

[@syriacode8602]

we need BYD song L pleaseeeeeeee

[@10secondsrule]

At this price Tesla is a non brainier. This car only gets better with updates. VW, not sure about it.

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

Agree, Tesla is for people with no brains.

[@ohboi1738]

I can't stand these haptic touch buttons on my ID3! No one can stand them! Still, they made ID7 with same sh**t buttons!

[@MartinNyholmJelle]

I use mine every day without any issues.. only the first week was abit with adjusting.. I really don't think about them being haptic anymore

[@hkad6252]

I have an ID3 for one year now and have no trouble using them.

[@rainermenes5921]

Here too. Cupra Born and ID.7 no issues with the buttons and all drivers in my family too.

[@UgglemannenFTW]

​@@hkad6252those haptic buttons are the cause of loads of accidents caused by ID cars...

[@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi]

I love the haptic buttons on my ID.3!

[@csonttot7819]

wait for hyundai inster test

[@FenixFenix-p5p]

TESLA Y WHEN RANGE UPDATE!!!

[@bjornnyland]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

[@FenixFenix-p5p]

@@bjornnyland there should be range update to TESLA Y BYD SR. I have new tesla from 2023 dec. expecting range update to long range (software update). available in US already. not sure when they will release in EU. I really need this range boost in Poland do be honest :( I bought teslay SR based on your review and I think it is a great car but it needs a better range.

[@TheEdmaster87]

Model Y in 2025 new model will have range update. Probably 600km WLTP on the LR version, I am hoping for way more. They can put 100kwh battery pack easily in the model Y instead of 82 net, 75 usable today.

[@Aztasu]

@@FenixFenix-p5p no, there only has been a Model Y LR RWD version, that's it.

[@leiflarsson9637]

Are you sure it will come 2025? Let´s see the Robotaxi first in october: @@TheEdmaster87

[@mikaeljohnson]

Impressive. But yes, Model 3 highland would kick its ass. I manage to get under 90 Wh/km with sunday driving in summer with the Model 3 SR highland. That equals to around 640 km from a 57,5 kWh battery 🙂

[@WLLiLLW]

but i would bet that the ID7 with a smaller battery and on 19 inch would also be nice for many people and super efficient - for the size of the car a model Y would also be the realistic comparison

[@mikaeljohnson]

@@WLLiLLW sure, but then the comparison should be with the new refreshed Model Y, probably coming early 2025. The current Model Y is technically a 4 years old car design

[@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi]

This is a real car, not a Trump-supporter toy car.

[@f3rr31r4]

It must be said the type rating states the maximum payload is 362kg and towing capacity of 1000kg, which is worse than a Toyota yaris. You cannot ignore these fundamental numbers for a car that is supposed to be for families.

[@cooperjohnston3300]

Is 362 kg the max payload for the bigger battery version? I could only find 532 kg listed for the one tested here

[@sie4431]

362kg seems fine for families

[@Angelboy99]

Let’s be serious, how many Yaris or any other sedan tow anything when only 25% pickups do and only 15% of the time.

[@LoneWolf-wp9dn]

I don't think people that buy this go on shitty holidays with dirty caravans to pollute some field somewhere... I think they can afford hotels

[@hkad6252]

You seems to have a fat family.

[@2kMario]

With average speed 68km/h Tesla Model 3 HL can do the same range , nothing new . I doesn't mean that VW ID7 Pro is a great EV .

[@jtamm4021]

Ridiculous low average speed, not realistic conditions for range test

[@shlomig70]

I dont think it is impressive under the 67 km/h average speed we see on the screen.

[@vagitivanov8457]

proving a 600km range which is not even a slightest concern for an entry level ICE car that costs 3 times cheaper. and where you can still use air con all the way :) come on, is that the future we've all been looking for?

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

Yes, average driver drives 50 km/day and normal people eat and drink several times a day even without driving so even less range is more than enough. Faster charging would be more benefit for those people who drive and starves.

[@vagitivanov8457]

@@mr.wizeguy8995 if you are ready to pay 50 or even 60+K EUR to get an average daily range of 50km, stop every couple of hours on your journeys and waste your nerves on being concerned with what battery level you would arrive to the next stop...be my guest. I, for that amount of money, expect a car to be universal, cover all possible ranges and does not bother me with amount of juice left just after I left home 🤣

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

@@vagitivanov8457 Point was if average driver drives 50 km each day you can drive whole week before you need to recharge when you have 600 km total range. And road trip isn't problem either normal people eat several time a day and you car charge while you eat usually it does it faster than you get your meal and can finish it. I have driven over 11000 km with EV so far, didn't change anything how i drive trips. Biggest difference is that i don't have to use any time for charging and can also charge at home with diesel i had to always go for petrol station which quite often wasn't along my trip to home.

[@vagitivanov8457]

@@mr.wizeguy8995 with an average range of 50km, one would then drive a disel car for 2 weeks without a need to refuel. So it is twice better than an EV. Charge at home is available mainly for people who own their own houses, if you rent an apartment then such charging is rarely an option. And for long road trips the difference is that you HAVE to make stops at locations where car dictates you to rather than you MAY choose to make a stop or not

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

@@vagitivanov8457 Dunno how diesel is in your country but here you have to pay around 600€ tax each year before you can even drive that alone cost enough to drive with EV more than 4000 km because EV also have tax but much smaller. We have so many public chargers if you stop for food there are also charger so nothing different when you drove ICE and stopped for food break.

[@PT-mj3bk]

so now electric cars are on par with a kia picanto

[@thirsk3]

No it is very ugly actually.

[@rare_wubbox360]

Have seen this car, looks boring And hearing about Shitty sw So i will not buy another veichle from the words biggest cheater. Never ever

[@c-fb]

Nobody cares

[@wolfgangselle4307]

@rare_wubbox360 … with the cheating is like the same with Doping in sport … everyone does it only few got caught … in this case it was VW. And cheating on what? More air pollution? Yeah and of course people bought this cars because they were so clean? LOL. Ridiculous they bought this car because they are so fuel efficient! Period! Not because was so clean. How about the official fuel consumption numbers from the car companies? That’s even more 💩 I don’t know if 5 to 6 litre / 100km diesel is more harmful for the environment than 8 to 10 litre / 100km gasoline?

[@tridruankham2657]

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