Driving The Ineos Grenadier - Full On Road Review and Impressions (POV)

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[@williamlong2682]

On the fourth day of Christmas, my Tedward gave to me 4 Grenadiers 3 M5’s 2 Karmann Ghias And a 250 in a pear tree

[@SilentRoadStudio]

I just sung this 😂

[@JDMintegraVTEC]

5 golden toques!

[@starstencahl8985]

This is the absolutely coolest car that came out in recent years. And I’m not even into offroading cars. Everything’s perfect about it. The engine, the actual real capabilities, the looks, the interior and especially: the physical buttons and physical handbrake!

[@Mint-kj9kw]

Right? It's the only car I want.

[@codywikert7975]

I've been told by my local dealership that a software update is coming in December that will allow you to permanently turn off the overspeed warning. I purchased one of these in March and have been having a blast with it.

[@Alan-hw3jg]

B58 Landrover? Yes please!

[@madrx2]

We only get shitty diesels in Australia

[@JosephSamsor]

@@madrx2funny you say that, because many Americans have complained about us not getting the diesel option.

[@m87orion]

Exactly 🤣 ​@@JosephSamsor

[@e.e9331]

@@madrx2 LOOOL different world! Were complaining we didnt get diesel B57 variant here in Canada and the US! I would 100% get the diesel variant if it was offered here

[@angelsfallfirst7348]

I actually love this, as someone with a solidly middle class income I don't necessarily have the means to ever own and maintain something like a G Wagon or original Defender in good condition. On the other hand, one of these on the used market should be well within budget in just a matter of years, with a highly dependable and simple to maintain power train. Looks like I might be living out my Euro overlanding dreams after all!

[@Millie-md4jk]

As an owner for 18 months + in Europe / uk … the really nice thing is that other people wave and smile at the grenadier as opposed to ‘hate’ (we had three g wagons of various flavours and the opposite was the case)

[@INEOSGrenadier]

Great to see that you enjoyed driving the Grenadier!

[@brucebeard978]

I have been waiting for this review! You have done a nice job summing the vehicle up and dispelling some of negative comments around the steering. As for turning, the Grenadier takes 3’ less than my F-150 to turn in a circle. Perspective is everything! The people at Ko Ineos gave me one to drive a few months ago and after a day, I came back and placed my order. Can’t wait until it is delivered!

[@OLOH]

😎

[@BryanPike]

You can adjust the steering bump stops by swapping nut spacer with a pair of SAE washers and improve turning radius by six feet. However the Magna Steyr design was this way was to protect truck with front lockers engaged. I don't really have an issue coming from a Chevy Tahoe having to K turn in parking spaces, plus turn earlier with 3 and 3/4 spins peg to peg.

[@michaelb4705]

You won't regret it. I've had mine for serval months and can't stop smiling!

[@texasgrillchef8581]

Don’t try to compare this with a f-150…. You’re talking apples and oranges. There’s a lot the F-150 can do this one can’t, and vice versa. My Bronco has a much tighter turning radius than this thing.

[@brucebeard978]

@ I tow, the Grenadier has the towing rating I need. Your Bronco can’t tow what I need so it’s a little useless for me. Get it?

[@Millie-md4jk]

30k down in my grenadiers over 18 months and still trucking - puts a smile on the face every time Also surprisingly great long distance cruiser

[@valiantviktor]

This thing is SICK. I'm not even into off-roaders all that much and this is the most compelling option to me for a new car (the price is the only real turn-off).

[@sidekick258]

It's given me my mom's Suzuki Jimny Sierra vibes, a new car with an old analogic powertrain, has everything you need and nothing more, great daily car.

[@foxationnation1908]

Take notes manufacturers. I hate the look of today’s cars. Bring back reliable and simple designs. It’s a car not a smart phone

[@Alifeinpoems]

The old Landy template is not the paradigm of ‘reliable’.

[@RootBeerGMT]

You show those turds whose boss?

[@hamburgerhamburgerv2]

THEN STOP BUYING NEW CARS SMART GUY

[@MultiSneakerLover]

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[@Fds840]

Nice the Ineos specialy the mixture of many classics 4x4. Land Rover Defender + Mercedes G maybe Toyota Land Cruiser amazing the Ineos.

[@JasonFromCT]

These are really great if you live in Greenwich and need to get to the train station in February.

[@seiph80]

Ha! That recirculating ball steering sure brings back memories! I drove in the early 2000s an '83 Buick Regal while in college, and I remember how I had to turn the steering wheel almost two full circles to get it to turn! Not a complaint, just saying! 😊

[@williamgrand9724]

Love how boxy and analogue it is! Very cool!

[@A_Cuckoo]

The Road Sign Assistance whinging when you go even slightly over the speed limit, is indeed an EU regulation. It's on every new car over here and it SUCKS. Literally everywhere traffic usually flows at a speed slightly over the limit. So now you're either the slow one, blocking the whole lane, or you'll be listening to plenty of beeps :p

[@JDMintegraVTEC]

It's like a quack sound

[@A_Cuckoo]

@JDMintegraVTEC this one is quite reasonable indeed, compared to others I've heard. 😅

[@crudboy12]

What happens if you put electrical tape over the camera?

[@A_Cuckoo]

@@crudboy12 good question, not sure. I would guess the camera is used for more than just RSA. So you might also lose all the safety features, lane trace assist, etc...

[@crudboy12]

@@A_Cuckoo Good? I get pissed at my '07 sometimes for having too many electronic "assists". I like airbags, abs, and modern fuel injection, but I don't like features that take away control or question your judgement. I feel like most modern safety features are only useful for really inattentive drivers and are just plain annoying for everyone else. I think we've reached a point of diminishing returns with automotive safety, and we're just enabling increasingly distracted or inept drivers at this point.

[@Tinovodanovic]

The Grenadier is my absolute favourite among all of the new vehicles and I'm very much looking forward to your future videos with it.

[@SilentRoadStudio]

This got me sold, I love this 😍

[@jimjam4049]

Now this is epic

[@StevenScarborough]

That thing looks like it would have a Manuel as big as a phonebook, and that's AWESOME.

[@lIlIllll1]

Same engine that comes with the new supras!! Holy moly cant wait to see someone put a catless downpipe and tune it, these engines are rockets!not to mention super reliable. I had my 2020 supra for 4 years now with no issues and it is tuned with bolt ons.

[@LT101YT]

I do like it but the one thing that would annoy me is having to look over at that screen to see my speed, like why isn't it int the middle with the warning lights, etc.

[@DavesIneosGrenadier]

It takes a week to get used to it and then you realise looking slightly left, but still out the windscreen, is significantly better than looking down through the steering wheel.

[@LT101YT]

@@DavesIneosGrenadieryeah I guess I could see that being nice

[@clone1448]

I’ve seen a decent few of these around in the UK and I love that every single one I see is clearly being used as it’s designed. Caked in mud, towing, etc. It’s awesome people are using them as intended rather than status symbols or grocery getters. Loving the videos as always!

[@BryanPike]

Complete with utility floor and drain plugs to hose out foot wells!

[@DavesIneosGrenadier]

I am 5'10" and my elbow rests nicely on the window ledge. You have to crank the seat up as high as possible, then just work it down until comfortable. Most people sit too low.

[@brucebeard978]

Even with my 6’3” height, there is so much headroom that I can bring the seat up. In most vehicles, the seat must be all the way down just for headroom. Not on the Grenadier…

[@BryanPike]

My thoughts exactly. That ledge is one of the great pieces of the design.

[@oliverlondon5246]

Can’t wait for your road trip in this

[@timothyperry4559]

If you view this vehicle as a 4x4 truck not a car or a suv, you will love it. The steering is no problem if you are use to driving trucks, vans and commercial vehicles. People are comparing it to cars, it ain’t a car.

[@tehbrutenextdoor]

It’s giving Nantucket beach crawler.

[@23nedlog]

Yes buttons. Screw touch screen BS. I'm old(er) hate the new "tech" in vehicles. I used to have to turn my head to back up.

[@Matt_10203]

Everyone hates it. It makes no sense to have touchscreens for everything, even VW backtracked on touch sensitive buttons on the MK8 golf cause they sucked, and it was a nightmare to know what button you were pressing - or if it was actually triggering.

[@beforever]

Didn't understand these, now I desperately want one. Had no idea sir Jim Ratcliffe just wanted to make his own defenders/series. Hope they make Tedward armrest options.

[@RubyRoks]

My favorite thing about this car isn't even about this car. When Doug DeMuro did his video on it, he made a comment about there being too many switches and parroting the "Consumers don't actually know what they want" thing and just about every comment on that video said "No, this is perfect actually". It was either god-tier engagement bait or the best example of not understanding your audience i've ever seen. I'm not sure which, but i'm impressed equally by either outcome Anyway, this is one of the vehicles of all time. Not nostalgic about Defenders of yore, but i appreciate getting just about as close to a "switch per function" design philosophy as you legally can in a country that requires all cars to have backup cameras to meet safety regulations but won't let you use cameras as your only rear view mirrors.

[@hamburgerhamburgerv2]

Consumers want the F-150.

[@brucebeard978]

Funny, I own a 2022 F-150 King Ranch with a 5.0 and I actually have an order in for a Grenadier. My Ford is a great truck but it is incredibly boring…

[@BryanPike]

He is almost as annoying as Tucker Carlson with that same prepubescent voice.

[@RubyRoks]

@@BryanPike Don't know if i'd go that far. Doug's out of touch, but he's not THAT bad

[@RyanRoadReaper]

This might be the most old feeling new car on sale today

[@pr33tu_]

21:52 that e wagon is straight class

[@tomyamartino]

That's the dealership (Lev Kia) where I bought my current car! This is bonkers!

[@chibha96]

I've never heard about this car but it looks good 😮

[@goatsplitter]

I really like that the interior looks like a science fiction military vehicle. It's fun.

[@sullybiker6520]

I absolutely love this thing. One day I will have one.

[@richmahoney4637]

G wagon vibes and its built in a former Mercedes factory that Ineos and Magma purchased I believe interesting

[@VxMAX]

What an incredibly fun car - this will be a need in the near future.

[@kyleroberts6472]

I saw one of these in my town! Had me baffled on what it was. So glad this video came out lol

[@onlinealias622]

I sat in one of these at an auto show, it seems pretty sweet.

[@edim108]

Grenadier and the 250 Series Land Cruiser are the only two new SUVs I'd consider buying if I had the budget. Rugged, reliable and old school in the best possible way.

[@All_Will_Be_Crab]

Suggestion: drive an e39 5 series with the inline 6 (525i, 528i, 530i). Better balance and steering compared to the v8 models and way more reliable.

[@matthewthedude146]

I’m starting to see more and more of these in my area! I hope to see even more, hopefully it makes these manufacturers WAKE UP!

[@kubibear2890]

That steering twiddling will drive you nuts if you live in a mountain area. Half a turn just to go around a bend!

[@JPsee24]

Great review, really enjoyed this 👌🏻

[@Ser_Arthur_Dayne]

We got one right before November & so far love it ... not just the looks but the engineering & build. You can *feel* that German Engineering turboed straight-six... Honestly if it was just me, I'd tune it because the engine is an absolute beast but I got outvoted by family. And the funny thing is - now the G-Wagon has shamelessly copied BMW's B58 and is now coming with a - you guessed it - a 3.0L turbo straight six! If you want the "bi-turbo V8" , you have to upgrade to the superpremium AMG version. One thing I will say , though, paid for a Premium audio system, they have better options at Walmart.

[@naashuman5503]

Brilliant 👏🏻 review 👍🏻

[@johnnymichael1804]

I live down the street from Lev Kia (the main dealer these are sold under) and i swear they havent sold one of them in 2 years. I drive by the dealer every day.

[@FluppKey]

11:07 - Yes, it's a really annoying EU regulation that every single new built car has to meet since mid 2024. Some cars like Ford or BMW actually give you a shortcut right from the factory where you need to press and hold down the LIM button of the cruise control to deactivate but still....this is getting very damn annoying. Every single time you're boarding a new car and don't want to get annoyed by it, you'll have to deactivate the speed limit warning, auto start/stop and the active lane keeping assist over and over and over again. I'd rather stick to older cars as long as possible.

[@tehbrutenextdoor]

Also, Mercedes E-Class wagonbro knows what’s up.

[@charlieb1180]

I valet in a very high end area during the summer. Lots of people who bought the new defender are selling them for the grenadier. The new defender is an embarrassment to Land Rover, glad to see that the ineos is filling the void

[@Adison29]

I have no idea how in the world have I thought of it being a Smart or a Fiat 500 when I saw the wheel on the thumbnail, especially that I have never paid any attention to these in the past, but I have just looked them up in Google search and they do not look like this, and yet I was not wrong for associating Smart with it apparently. I really, really like this one. For whatever reason I get the feeling that this sort of interior will be a hot selling point 10-15 years from now, I feel that people will be looking for modern cars with more analog feel way more often than they do now. I think it looks fantastic, the only thing that slightly bothers me is that the steering wheel position and that tiny dash make for a perfect place to put a tiny digital speedo there and maybe that rev counter too. It slightly bothers me these two things are displayed on the center screen instead. Other than that - fantastic. Now, I do not really know the "utility SUV" (or however you wanna call them) market, yet alone US car market, but to me it feels like ballpark of $80k would be a more suitable price. One more thing I will say though is that I think this engine suits the car perfectly, it sounds appropriate.

[@mauricejones3387]

I went to the Philly car show and to ME the hit of the show was the Grenadier. I looked up the price point thinking just by looking qt it and knowing what refreshed Defender 110's were going for, that this was going to be at least $100,000. I was blown away that it was around $80,000. I had went by the New Toyota Landcruiser and it was pushing $80,000 in the spec you really want. The Toyota Sequioa is at at least $80,000 and many above that in a matching spec to the Grenadier. The Land Rover Defender in a comparable spec is thousands more. A Mercedes G Wagon is double the money. There was a time that the G Wagon was the most desirable regardless of price. The Grenadier has made that mute. If you can spend the money you spend on the other vehicles I mentioned, this Grenadier is the best value of them all, IMHO.

[@boazlyu]

My field master has about 8 more toggle buttons at the top

[@startrader9503]

Oh I wasn't ready for that center console... Where are my tissues...

[@AdamKlingenberger]

I saw one of these and wondered what the hell kind of Land Rover it was (as a layman)

[@mtshark7]

Nice review Tom!😊

[@vaultofnoah3903]

Idk if you planned this but I feel like this can kinda be related to what you spoke about in your last video.

[@scotthilly5653]

Hysterical that the best sounding (on the inside) B58 is in a truck that's not even made by BMW. Man, the m40i's would be so much better with this induction / turbo whistle (and without that fake noise).

[@KVenturi]

This is a cool car holy shit I love this

[@mowgli6345]

You mentioned cars compromising in their design functions. Where does this fall on the spectrum of Jeep Wrangler to Toyota TRD?

[@mattr8904]

SHOULD INEOS HAVE GONE TO FORD & ADAPTED THE 7 SPEED MANUAL FROM THE BRONCO TO THIS? 🤔 YES.

[@markelliott6105]

Excellent review, but you missed its biggest negative. The key fob panic button! (a) Grenadier owners NEVER panic. (b) As I stood up after watching this video, with the key in my pocket, some movement or wrinkle in my pants brushed the damn button and it went off… in a motel car park! Now I have to hide in my room until all the other guests have left.

[@TedwardDrives]

The Shame! haha too funny. I didn't encounter that issue but I'll fiddle with it next time I have the Ineos

[@andrewmontigue]

While I love seeing more mechanical and tactile switches and design, I really hope this doesn't make automakers regress back to crappy plastics and bad touch points. Hopefully if this kind of design comes back to cheaper cars they can find a way to still give a premium feeling without having it on a screen.

[@HinoDinkov]

Yes, unfortunately the beeping for exceeding the speed limit is one of the new EU regulations for new cars. But I realy like the Ineos Grenadier. As a person who worked for a supplier of Ineos, I can say that they are realy good rugged vehicles.

[@OverlandOrange]

HOW is there not a fix yet for the overspeed sound??????

[@DD-tc8nd]

Ineos CEO said a firmware update is coming for US early in the new year.

[@sudiptabhowmik1115]

Great to look at. But out of budget vehicle.

[@tomyamartino]

I grew up attending that church!

[@sarahdell4042]

Awesome trucks. Pricing is a bit high though. You can get a raptor bronco for the same cash

[@nirfz]

The manual headlight leveling does surprise me a bit. That’s only a thing with Halogene lights usually.. Xenon have to have automatic leveling by law. And I thought LEDs too. (I have a car with LED headlights since summer, and it has auto leveling and cornering light.) Yes the „assistants“ being to annoying is a EU regulation. (All new cars sold have that shit as mandatory because the regulators think this would make driving safer. I can say from personal experience that in my case it’s the opposite.) A few years ago, before the Grenadiers were ready to be sold I had one of the test drivers on a twisty mountain road in front of me. He was going quite fast even through the corners. Way faster than I would have thought he could. (Sure thanks to the car I was driving I could have gone faster still, but for the type of vehicle the Grenadier is, the tires and the center of gravity, his pace was kind of surprisingly high. I think you americans would describe his pace as „he was hauling a$$“. ;-) He would have left most normal driving cars up that road way behind if there would have been any besides us two. (I live near the Magna facilities where the Grenadier was developed and the G-Wagon is built. So I came across a few of the prototypes of either over the years.)

[@nathanrichardson8250]

Had these a while in the uk. i dont know how i feel about them.

[@street282]

I like it 👌

[@aldairperez5464]

I love the mix of old school and modern styling and features. Unfortunately, it is definitely overpriced, but I'm hoping in the next few years it will be a bit affordable (my guess is not, since vehicles like the 4Runner, Defender, and G-Wagon maintain their value). A diesel version would be very fitting.

[@marwanalmualla1284]

good car

[@keltecdan]

I wish they would have put an actual drivers instrument cluster instead of taking up space for it on the center display HMI.

[@benjaminlyng8269]

I took a test drive last month Colo Springs and there were multiple broken windshield spots. Yesterday I spoke with an owner at Sam’s Club - still had a temp tag - and a cracked windshield. Is this an issue with the car?

[@rafaeladamovic330]

3:38 bicus they relized what brand is better

[@mccallj]

Instrument cluster is in an awkward place. No heated steering wheel, however no rubber ducks. I’d drive it.

[@careng8111]

I am really intrigued with this car, haven’t test driven one yet but plan to. I have a a Braptor on order, very very different I know, but this is the only car that may change my mind. The huge downside - for me, is the lack of a blind spot monitor. Anyone know if 2025 models might deliver this feature?

[@ElderStatesman-pi3lc]

No it will not - who knows - maybe 26? But visibility is pretty good and Suma mirrors improve visibility on the sides.

[@carguyeyedoc]

What a cool $40k car

[@ac0rn75]

I’ve just bought a diesel Trialmaster. Why aren’t diesels available in North America?

[@petrnemecek4379]

No speed and rpm gauge in front of me is a show stopper, I wan to look in front of me not sideways.

[@stockton.t8318]

As much as I love this truck, I can't wait to buy another FJ cruiser.

[@BryanPike]

Considered that, but this has wayyy more space.

[@Bergo101]

As a true long term FJ fanatic, I’m selling mine for a grenadier!

[@lishuozhen]

This car looks so cool except for the shift knob looks absolutely out of place 😂

[@pr33tu_]

Ahh yes the elusive school bus sunroof

[@brucebeard978]

You rode on better optioned school busses than I did!

[@mitchkelleher7972]

I've seen a few of these and have been wondering about them a bit. Not my kind of vehicle, but I really like it. The steering is appropriate for what it is, too. I like vehicles where everything is matched up to its purpose, rather than being heavily compromised masters of nothing. I like sports cars to be sports cars, luxury cars to be luxury cars, and trucks to be trucks. I love the manual roof panels. I can't tell if they lift out, but if so, they remind me of the Subaru BRAT "Funroofs", though those opened like gullwings. I miss the manual operation roof panels from my old cars and much prefer them to the power moonroofs. While I never had any issues with either kind of roof, to me, the manual removable panel gives more of a sense of occasion to operate. And, yes, the speed warning is a stupid EU regulation.

[@OLOH]

Yes indeed - the "Safari" roof panels as they're called are removable and if the vehicle is optioned with them they also include very nice cases to stow them in 😎

[@ayanfe-n1g]

at least i was the second one here

[@richmahoney4637]

Simple elegance they maybe on to something lol

[@legionary4721]

i aint second or third just happy to be here

[@Bergo101]

Nice video but this is like driving a Ferrari on a dirt road. You gotta drive it in its natural habitat! This was build to be offfff road ❤

[@TedwardDrives]

It literally says “on road review” in the title.

[@richmahoney4637]

I don’t need my truck to be the fastest or newest technology it’s a lot of luxury in tried and true tech and simple good looks and reliable

[@thisisafox1961]

The fact that they took the Telsa route with the speedo and that stuff to the right of the driver really ruins the vehicle for me, not that I was going to buy one anyway.

[@ElliWoelfin]

It's definitely a choice. Don't see even a shred of reasoning to do that

[@brenisdank7097]

@@ElliWoelfin the biggest most mainstream buyers won't touch cars with analog dials.

[@brenisdank7097]

I commented too soon I see what you mean... the center speedo is kinda meh but it must be a cost measure since it's a new brand.

[@jakobjordaan2507]

Is this the petrol or diesel model?

[@TedwardDrives]

petrol

[@pnisflytrap1]

this is neat but a properly equipped and fully optioned x5 50i or m50/m60 blows this outta the water and you can get both for around the same price used.

[@TedwardDrives]

Not even the same class of vehicle

[@pnisflytrap1]

@TedwardDrives yea x5 is better in every single way is my point

[@ElderStatesman-pi3lc]

I have NO idea why you would compare this to a luxury SUV. Many Grenadier owners ALSO own X5’s - but would NEVER consider them as alternatives. It’s not a SUV - it’s not for shopping trips. You can use it that way and enjoy it, but Ineos is unapologetic that it’s built for purpose. That’s why it exists - JLR tried to “meet in the middle” between a Defender and a X5 - when we just wanted a better-built, more reliable update of the Defender.

[@MisterChips]

I did just that a while back and test drove a Grenadier and I gotta say, I was less than impressed by it. The powertrain was fine, and I'm sure it's quite good offroad, but the example I drove felt cheap inside (especially considering the >$100k Canadian sticker price!) and had more squeaks and rattles in it than a 30-year old BMW. Compared to the other vehicles in its segment, it's kinda hopelessly outclassed for the use case of probably 95 percent of its customers. The new Defender, Land Cruiser or G-Wagen are better vehicles in nearly every regard.

[@toddsickinger3934]

Sat in this at the car show 12/31/24, the drivers area is very cramped and feels like it was built for very small people. I found it uncomfortable and claustrophobic.

[@joehfwefhweofhwepe]

Looks cool. What happens when they go broke like fisker?

[@slocarfr]

i bet my 01 tahoe has more interior space tho ;)

[@crittercel]

yay

[@Terny228]

Looks Rugged enough to hand down the Generations and your future progeny would Luv it, and no ugly digital interference.

[@mrfishsticks266]

Never heard about this brand

[@TedwardDrives]

This is probably why I was given a car to drive on video....Because a lot of people have no idea what it is