Driving the Oldest & Newest Chevy Silverado To Find Out If It's Actually Better!

[@Chevrolet]

We love the video, Kase! Thank you for taking the time dive into all things Silverado💙

[@vvarLEADER]

love my new First Edition Silverado ev RST. When will i get sidewinder on it?

[@SunnynPhilly]

My Grandfather had a 99’ 4x4 regular Cab step side Silverado with a manual transmission in Pewter. That truck sure was a looker. And a goat on the steep twisty often snow covered roads where he lived in the Mountains 🏔️

[@Frusie]

Ain’t no way, it’s General Motors themselves

[@DH-mf2lv]

I owned a 99 Silverado with the 5.3L engine. NO cylinder deactivation and NO auto start/stop feature. My son in law has owned it since 2019 when I bought a Tundra with the 5.7L V8. Both still going strong!

[@theglowcloud2215]

Cylinder deactivation on GMT900 was a huge pain in the ass. And it didn't really improve fuel economy much at all.

[@fivespeed3026]

I have a 1999 4.8L and I love it. Nice and basic.

[@Gtaonlineuserdaxx_2020]

@@DH-mf2lv yo same my dad owned a 2006 z71 and in 2017 got a 5.7 tundra it was just time for a new truck

[@mk_cichlids]

Still driving my '04 Z71. It's held up great over the years. Could never bring myself to pay new truck prices now.

[@Lex-Rex]

Congratulations.

[@stainsonmycouch3655]

What about the rocker panels, how those holding up?

[@TheKingOfCasuals]

​@@stainsonmycouch3655 i have an o4 dosge with rocker panels and no rust on them. Its about care and maintinence. I luve in the frozen tundra.

[@jw8327]

I just bought a 2004 silverado extended cab z71, 135k on it, and the first Chevy I own

[@Fossillarson]

My 03 has 3 total holes size quarter. 246k i just put 5k into it over putting down payment on new truck. 😅 im happy. ​@stainsonmycouch3655

[@ehsannemati4014]

GMT800, the best generation of GM vehicles ever, extremely reliable

[@winning2273]

Agreed, they are pretty reliable they just have an issue with rusting

[@ZmannR2]

EGR valves really the only big issue

[@Jay-me7gw]

Yeah until they had fused into a solid chunk of metal from rust and corrosion. Every one I knew about in new england got sent to the scrap yard because every component underneath was literally disintegrating, even if the powertrain was still ok.

[@markderoller7645]

Anytime I saw one on the road one of the DRLs was out.

[@sinistersilverado965]

@@ZmannR2 most of them don't have egr

[@deltabravo1257]

I've owned two GMT800s. The first was a 2002 2500HD 6.0L, which I traded in back in 2009 for a truck I still own, a 2009 3500HD Duramax. In 2014 I bought a 2006 2500HD with the LBZ Duramax, but only kept it two years. I bought it to use for RV Transport, but gave up that "job" in favor of a real job. A lot of younger folk don't understand that the "Silverado" name was just a trim level up until 1999. Thanks for pointing out that detail. That's what I love about your team - you get the details correct!

[@anthonyc1883]

Just yesterday I spotted yesterday in suburban Chicago a 1980s Suburban that had "Silverado" on the front fender ahead of the wheel. I'm not a young guy at all but didn't recall that Silverado was anything but the model name of a pickup truck!

[@teeveeviewerski3381]

I have a memory of my GMT800. Driving to work this morning.

[@MrHuck]

Still driving my 99 Sierra with 141k on the odometer. Don’t see buying another truck in a while.

[@Allen-f6n4m]

Still loving my 2006 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 LT 3 crew cab 5.3 with all the options. Every time I get in this truck I think about how much I enjoy driving it. I pull a 6000 lb travel trailer with it all summer.

[@donboatwright3821]

At 9:08 I thought Cody was about to get sideswiped by that truck but thank God it was a Comercial lol

[@rafythehunter6586]

@@donboatwright3821 omg I thought the same thing. I came to the comments to see if anyone else noticed it!!!

[@mitchstein288]

LOL it's Kase but yeah!! I thought the same thing. I saw a Ford truck and heard screeching tires... Then oh thank god it was just an ad 😂

[@trentcolumbus2688]

My dad owned an 02 z71 for a few years and it was an amazing truck that I got to drive to school when my car was on jack stands. Tons of miles off road and a couple of crashes and it never let us down. I miss it

[@cordellroberson532]

YAY a GMT 800 history lesson! dont forget the Avalanche 2500!

[@jordan4328]

With the 8.1l !

[@DrBenWiles]

I do like the extension to the truck bed into the rear seats- would be ideal for putting a canopy on for camping.

[@floridasurffishingjcaprice3077]

My 2002 Yukon hit 300,000 miles. My 2004 Yukon is only 210,000 miles. Engines have been exceptionally reliable. The 2004 Transmission needed replacement at 185,000 miles. Passenger side front bearing needed to be replaced. That's it! Failed to start only once due to a dead battery, jumped and replaced. Great trucks both with 5.3 V8.

[@ribbit1964]

Case! You’ve earned your way to become a staple on TFL! Well done sir! Between you and the rest of the young blood at TFL, the channel /company is in good hands!

[@shanevanc]

That frunk is awesome. Anyone in construction knows the biggest hassle of a pickup is lack of trunk. If youhave tools you need a job box. This truck pretty much solves that problem. Pairir that with ability to power other tools and you have a great site vehicle.

[@ernestdesimone2234]

I have a 1999 GMC Suburban, which was the older body style because they switched the pickups over in '99 but the Suburbans didn't change until '00. It has 90k miles on it and has always been garaged. I will be passing that truck on to my son eventually. Prior to that I had a 1985 Chevy Suburban (square body), which only had 165 HP with a 350 cu in motor! The '99 jumped to 255 HP.

[@craigstark2712]

I have owned a 2021 Silverado Trail Boss with the 6.2 for four years now, and it still makes me smile when I drive it.

[@workingcountry1776]

I felt that way about my 06 Nissan Titan. Tuned with headers and I made dual exhaust exit under the rear bumper. My favorite truck ever. Light on it's feet and power for days even pulling minivans or other big cars on my trailer. I used it for work, play and camping. Sold it at 300k miles. I still regret that because nothing has scratched that itch since. Funny thing; I was looking at gm and Ford pickups. Test drove a Titan and was so impressed I bought it on the spot. My Silverado went 300k miles too but with more repairs that cost big money (tyranny and rear end)

[@NWI_Steel]

Absolutely love the gmt 800's

[@Jonatan_SE]

Great video Kase! You have a great, calm, collected and professional presenting style that just works! Mixing facts with trivia nicely. Not that I don't love Roman and Tommy shouting at me, because I do.😄 But, some more mellow Kase content is very welcome too. 👍

[@Chris-gt7ob]

I have been a TFL fan for years. I wish more videos were like this! I get tired of hearing about the software and the MPGs. This was refreshing. Thanks!

[@MarksKicksOnRoute66]

Kase fantastic job on this compilation! TFL should be glad to have you. Your respect and love for older generations of vehicles is needed. Just get you a cowboy hat and you'll be a next generation Mr. Truck.

[@drags666]

Nope, Jen gets the next hat. This kid is terrible.

[@richardnottelmann58]

I still love my 2001 step side 6 seat Silverado, with 325,000 miles on all original truck. 4.8L V8

[@rofin9541]

Great motor.

[@jdfleetguy28]

Great video Kase. Good job! I have said for years the GMT800 was my all-time favorite of the GM trucks. That was the last truck you could still reach over the bedside and grab stuff out of it with ease. They looked great, road great, had comfortable seats and were easy to work out of.

[@shawnalderson9065]

Have a 2001 Silverado as well as a 2020 Silverado. Both 5.3 extended cabs. Love both of them. I like the power and handling the 2020, as well as the heated steering wheel and seats. But in overall drivability, I will always love my 2001 the best. To me, believe it or not, it's more comfortable. It rides better. The handling is not that far behind the 2020. Visibility is better. It is so much simpler. No screen in your face, no autostop or cylinder deactivation. No cameras and not many gadgets. Just get in and drive. I drive it 20 miles to work every morning. If it had the power of the 2020, and wasn't as old as it is, I'd have no use for the newer one. GMT 800 is the sweet spot between newer technology and older simplicity in gm trucks. Rock solid reliability and when something does break, cheap parts and easy to fix. I will drive it until it rusts in to dust.

[@bsquadrider]

I've had an 05 1/2 ton z71 single cab since new, its now my daily work truck. I love it so much, I bought a clean 04 sierra 2500 crew cab with the 6.0 for the family truck this summer. This generation of trucks are pure workhorses.

[@Wildontherocks]

Not only is that first gen silverado everywhere but the heart of them are also EVERYWHERE because they've been transplanted in everything you can imagine!! That's for sure the all American truck!! I Love my 99 even more then my new trucks!! I bought it in 07 as my first truck I bought on my own when I was 18 with 45k miles. I put a 4 in lift with 35" tires and it now has 385,000 miles and I haven't put anything more then normal tune ups and one fuel pump and the truck runs perfect!! It hasn't been babied but not abused either its about to get passed to my son now. It's even been drove every winter here in utah and there's not a spec of rust on the frame or body...

[@leoazucena-lagos3777]

Thank you case: back in 1999-2000, I had 3 children , two babies in diapers and what made the original Silverado appealing was the fact it came with disk brakes in the rear. Safe. It was comfortable and very good looking, price of the rear cab: $16,000 and the two door: $12,000 manual transmission and 6 cylinder. So now this days they cost too much. Take good care.🇺🇸👍

[@joelorincz7802]

It is good to have a choice of engines in the gas/ diesel version. I know i personally wont buy the electric version but glad its there for those that can use it.

[@MrIMCP]

I've got a 2000 Silverado 1500 ext cab long bed, she's a weekend work truck, but has never let me down. Most things are easy to work on as well.

[@nateallen2709]

Gmt800 was the best Silverado made lol

[@TPowell12]

That or GMT400 trucks. Two great generations.

[@nateallen2709]

@ gmt400s arent Silverado’s though. They’re c/k 1500

[@dylanjones7771]

01-07.5 best years of trucks. Power. easy to work on. Parts are everywhere.

[@Kcducttaper1]

Just bought a new Silverado last year. 2003 Silverado 2500HD 8.1 with 80k miles and less than 1/3 current prices. Couldn't be happier!

[@michaelracicot233]

Damn that gmt800 is sweet! I had an '01 HD single cab in that same pewter color. The wheels look great on this one. That dash ergonimics were spot on in these. Traded mine in with 280,000. 6.0 gasser. Great truck

[@98ChevyK1500Z71]

GMT800 forever! Currently have 3 and hope to add another. Simple, solid, easy to work on, and parts are abundant. None of the extra unnecessary electronics or gadgets that inevitably fail. Only problem is that more people will realize how great this generation was and push the prices on them even higher.

[@sfritts]

I drive a 96 c1500 Silverado with the 5.7 Vortec. Extremely reliable. Original drivetrain aside from Torque Convertor and a few accessory replacements. Almost to 400,000 miles. Bought it when I graduated high school. It was 4 years old at that time. Im 42 now, and aside from a project car, I've never bought another vehicle.

[@BocaChevy]

I bought my 07c brand new in September 06, i still daily it and it has 300k on it now. For the most part its in the same condition as it was when i drove it off the lot. I will drive that truck for as long as i can! GMT800 ftw!!

[@izegrimcreations]

After years, I finally got rid of my 2001 2500. The only non-scheduled maintenance it every had done was the starter replacement. I only got rid of it because I don't need a truck that big any longer.

[@georgearevalo781]

My 2017 Silverado is the best and is beautiful..have not seen another like it all the bells and whistles..get lots of compliments...

[@ryanking6811]

I feel so bad for my dad (and myself). He bought a 03 2500HD brand new back in the day. He loved that truck, and I loved that truck. Super reliable. He had it for twenty one years, but unfortunately the last three years of its life my parents moved to Michigan and the winters absolutely ate the frame alive. They moved back home and he drove it for another year and it was deemed unsafe and unrepairable when the inspection came. I was really really hoping to get that truck from him some day and keep it in really nice shape for another 20 years 😢 he was still able to trade it in though for 8k and bought a new Nissan frontier

[@firstlast---]

Unsafe and unreliable but he got 8k on trade? You got hosed big time

[@clearoyd]

Still have my 99 Silverado that I bought brand new. Best vehicle I've ever owned. Super reliable and easy to work on.

[@mitchstein288]

My Dad purchased a 2000 Silverado Z71 ext. cab (late model as it has the 4th door) over 24 years ago brand new. I purchased it from him before he passed and I still have it. It's the best truck we've ever owned. I remember when he brought it home, I was so excited. We drove in that truck together a lot and have a lot of memories in it, which is why I'll never sell it. Sadly here in MN, the rust takes no prisoners and it's in tough shape, but I'll restore it someday. To be honest, I'm not a huge fan of the new gas Silverados, and it's strictly about comfort. They're just not as comfortable, even my 2000 has better seats. As far as Silverado EV, I really like the look. I think I'll wait a while to purchase as I'm sure they're still working the bugs out. Off-road programming needs to improve if it's anything like the HUMMER. I'm really looking forward to what a Silverado EV Trailboss would look like. The wheels on the Silverado EV work truck look awesome on that truck, reminds me of my 1988 K1500.

[@HugoB-x4x]

The best trucks ever made 99-06 chevys

[@ramonmacias9013]

The new Truck have far too many electronic failure points. I will spend $20,000 to keep my 1990 and my 2002 running before i even consider spending $60k to $100k on anything that could replace them .

[@Lex-Rex]

Wonderful . . . keep cruising your clapped out truck no one cares.

[@Xx-VSM-xX]

@@ramonmacias9013 lol

[@Xx-VSM-xX]

​@@Lex-Rexpoor people mentality haha

[@ramonmacias9013]

@@Lex-Rex They aren't "clapped out" because i take care of them and use them regularly. These newer truck wont make it ti 15 years old forget about getting them to 35 or 50 years of use

[@chrisrobinson3494]

Smart thinking, those good ole' 1990 and 2002 were simplified like a truck SHOULD be, these "rolling computers" now are just waiting to break down, keep those "tried and true" old trucks.

[@BMD2024]

Reliable, long lived and easy to maintain, it's a true truck and not a iphone on 4 wheels like todays trucks. Americans and the automotive industry has traded durability, quality and longevity for turbo's, big screens and technology......unproven.

[@2-1inffwa97]

I don’t see many Americans in rural areas doing that

[@augsu]

That's funny, when I read "reliable, long lived and easy to maintain" I assumed you were referring to the EV. I have two Silverados, a 78 C30 and a 2024 3WT work truck, plus other gas and electric trucks and equipment. With extensive experience with both EV's and ICE there is absolutely no question about reliability and long service. All my electric equipment just works and works for years with no attention whatsoever.

[@fritty9927]

@@augsu😂

[@jlaw1901]

@@augsuyeah, EVs are much simpler from a powertrain perspective. I’m looking forward to that when I can afford one

[@DontjeB]

​@@augsu My 2005 Silverado has "just worked" for 20 years and 240,000 miles of reliable daily service. Still trucking just as strong as ever.

[@phild9813]

Had an 07 cateye 2500 crew cab with the 6.0. Great truck by all accounts, other than the tiny fuel tank. Got rid of it primarily because of that.

[@shawnhaas5158]

Still driving both of my GMT 800s one is a 2000 1/2 ton with a 4.8 and the other is a 2002 2500 HD with a 6 l both have over 350,000 miles

[@jordan4328]

My first truck was a 1999 Silverado 1500 Z71. Best truck I ever had, I put 175k miles on it and sold it...never should have done that. I beat the crap out of that truck and it kept going. Brings back a ton of memories, same color as my 99 ; light pewter metallic.

[@poppyneese1811]

Tiny little red pieces of these Silverado’s is everywhere in Southern West Virginia, the road salt ate the beds, rear lower cab corners and frames in just a few years. After 2 Tacomas that did the exact same thing I moved to the Aluminum truck brand!

[@IGrocker]

@@poppyneese1811 the aluminum fords are definitely holding up better, however I’m seeing several in my area that are corroding nearly as bad as their steel counterparts. I assume they’ll start to look like the mid-00’s Ford Explorer rear hatches before too long.

[@sinistersilverado965]

better off living in the south

[@harleypritchard5564]

I own a 2001 Silverado extended cab with the 4.8 and paid 500 for it and it’s amazing. I love these older trucks

[@justinwood2071]

I’m driving my grandfathers 00 Silverado single cab 4x4 with 62k miles. He bought it new and gave it to me before he passed. I’ll never sell that truck.

[@IceTTom]

I remember when a friend bought a new 300hp Silverado when they first came out. That kind of horsepower boggled my mind back then.. and that age of course.

[@cjstrasser]

My 2012 2500HD 6.0L 4x4 crew cab has been faultless. About to turn 150k. Other than the typical wear items (tires, brakes, etc) the only repairs have been 2 of the 4 oxygen sensors that needed replacing. Over the years we have had a few different heavy truck campers and a 30' 5th wheel. Sure it loves gas stations but it just hauls whatever I throw at it.

[@dbinder79]

We all miss Martin Chevrolet in Saginaw, some still remember them when they were in Hemlock. Bought/Leased many vehicles at Martin's.

[@matthewanderson9912]

Nice video. My first truck that I actually bought was a GMT800. A 2006 Sierra 1500 SLE2 crew cab short bed z71. To this day the 2003+ GMT800s have the best seats ever put in a truck in my opinion but certainly the best GM has ever had. I kept it for 7 years and nearly 100k miles. My current truck is a 2022 Silverado 2500hd crew cab short bed Z71 with 6.6 L8T engine. It’s been my favorite that I’ve had, but I’d definitely take those 2006 seats.

[@Coach_BigMac]

My daily driver is my 06 Yukon Denali. Only 148k on the odometer. The only issue I've had is a leaking sunroof which caused a few shorts and fuse changes. I have put a 3" level kit and 32x11.5 tires, an Vance and Hines intake. She still rides like a cadillac.

[@treya29]

Great comparison vid young man! GMT800 is a true classic that’ll live on for many years to come.

[@jerredwayne8401]

Gmt 800 all day every day. Best all around truck ever made

[@getlosttoday4045]

I still wish they would bring back the 350 in the gm line!

[@richardoaks3597]

Chevy Silverado best truck in the market.

[@discoverlight]

Gotta love that first gen, so many memories.

[@pryme2013]

5:20 I learned that it’s only 600ish miles to drive across the United States in this video. Thank you for this information sir.

[@JohnWieler-t3q]

One big issues is with the old GMC is that if you offroad them then the lights fel out

[@nickgabrielson8407]

My Aunt had one of these gmt800 Silverado for the longest time she only sold it about 6 months ago 280k miles and no major repairs were ever needed.

[@NBSteve]

I’m looking at getting the 25 Silverado EV LT myself. I like the new tech but don’t need all the bells and whistles. Wish it had the larger battery as an option but the 170kw will likely do for most of my RV towing to my provincial campgrounds

[@jg8263]

I see 2 good use cases for sidewinder: lining up a hitch, or creating space to swing while backing out in a parking lot if someone parked too close on one side.

[@aerynlovell4754]

The Sidewinder feature could be useful off-road to maneuver around trees or rocks. I have seen some custom 4x4s that had rear wheel steering added to make it easier to get the truck positioned on the perfect line. The only thing I hate about the Sidewinder, and all features on modern vehicles, is the long animation sequence on the screen. I'm an impatient person so when I push a button I expect the system to turn on without all the visual garbage. I prefer toggle switches because when I want something turned on I flip it up and by looking at the position of the switch I can tell it's on. When I want it turned off I flick the switch down and it's off. There is no ridiculous visual sequence to waste my time. My favorite thing about toggle switches is that when they are turned off the vehicle computer can't automatically turn any of those systems on.

[@jg8263]

@aerynlovell4754 agree about the animation, and the off road use. Sadly, I suspect the vast majority of equipped Silverados won't ever see time off road, despite the awesome feature.

[@aerynlovell4754]

@jg8263 Just like the vast majority of ZR2 trucks (with dual lockers) will never go off-road. Maybe the second or third owner of a ZR2 will use it off-road, but I think they are the new Jeep. Over the years, I would see several Jeeps on the road with every off-road attachment like Jerry cans, shovel, high-lift jack, etc, but the paint was perfect, and there were no scratches on the rock sliders. People like to pose for pictures with their "hard core" 4x4s but never take them off-road.

[@nathanstroud2223]

It's so weird to think about the "first-gen Silverado" being the '99 one. Up until a few years ago, when I was starting to look into old vehicles I remember from early childhood, I did not know about the name change from C/K series to Silverado. I always just assumed the Silverado, as a standalone nameplate, dated back at least as far as the GMT400. It's especially weird when you realize that the GMC Sierra was the Sierra before the Silverado was the Silverado.

[@joshmedina5668]

1999 Motor Trend Truck of the Year! Next time you want to visit old school, let me know. I have a white Z-71 extra cab that looks brand new. Same motor and Tranny and it runs and drives great. Awesome truck! How do I know this? They keep trying to steal it. 4 times already but I have the Drone alarm and I use a Club on the steering wheel. No dents,scratches or rust. It’s clean. Oh did I say it has 340,000 miles? Bought it brand new from John Elway Chevrolet in Denver Colorado!

[@cup_and_cone]

Sidewinder would be really useful for trying to connect to a trailer hitch in a really tight area.

[@michaelhalstead64]

My 2001 1500 and my 2003 cateye 2500 are still 2 of my favorite vehicles I've ever owned.

[@gregholloway2656]

Good video, Kase. I’d have liked if you had backed the GMT800 up against the new truck to show the difference in bed floor height.

[@rofin9541]

I have an 06 2500 with a 6.0. 246k same powertrain.

[@1randyharbin]

My old 04 Z71 ran 228K for me over 17 years, has done another 75K in the last 3.5 years for my oldest grandson and I am rolling in a 24 ZR2 with the 3 liter diesel (10K/14 months) after driving a 21 RST with the 3 liter for 23K/2.5 years. I'm a bow tie guy and wouldn't think of owning anything else.

[@TheRoeshow0324]

I miss my 03 RCLB. Cherry red. Being in the north east I lost it to rust

[@hondofourfivetwo9347]

I still regret letting my GMT800 go it was a 99 Z71 extended cab with a 5.3 had over 200K on original drivetrain the only big issues over the years were a fuel pump an ABS module and 3-4 shift solenoid otherwise it was trouble free I wish I had the room to just park it but I need real rear doors something without faded peeling paint and just smaller ended up back in a midsize truck which is what I had prior

[@DJR5280]

I guess in Colorado seeing a clean GMT 800 isn’t a big deal. I own one and see them everyday

[@kmb957]

Still driving a 97 1500 4.3L V6. Been a great truck. Single cab. 8ft bed. The only thing it's missing is 4wd.

[@classiccarfan100]

Can’t kill a southern driven GMT800

[@LPM84.]

It's not a silverado, but i do miss my 03 Avalanche Z71 2lt. It is one of the smoothest driving, shifting, comfortable vehicles I've owned to date. It was definitely one of the most multi functional vehicles ive owned as well.

[@scottbalvanz5319]

My 02 had the 4.8 v8. That was a great fuel mileage truck

[@VortexVibe634]

2 of my friends have the i6 Duramax, though they haven’t been left stranded on the road, they get constant check engine light that seems to be impossible to resolve after multiple trips to the dealer, both cases check engine light came on couple days after they got delivery of their trucks.

[@ebabdbgbbbebbluesman6115]

I bought a 2000 z71 1500 with ext. Cab and 8 foot bed. It is the perfect work truck. It rides nice and low, so tools are very easy to get out of the bed. Its been easy to work on, and cheap to fix. I have had it over a year, and want to keep it forever. There is no rust on it. I dont like the features of newer trucks ( auto start/stop, afm, auto braking). I can replace anything on this truck, and all the mechanics know how to work on them.

[@randysavage8963]

Great video and well spoken

[@lightningblue648]

Great video. I bleed Ford blue, but I think the GMT800 is the greatest vehicle platform built. The newest ones now 17-18 years old. They are still everywhere in truck and SUV form. GM hit it out of the ballpark.

[@jase3744]

My dad had a 2005 yukon slt fully loded one of the most comfortable vehicle's my dad ever owned

[@davidrudd9846]

Just bought a 2000 Chevy 2500 with 140000 miles I know its old but I paid $7,500 plus No Payments!!!

[@sreilly]

That’s a spring chicken! You’ll be driving that truck for years. Congratulations!

[@MyLifeThai371]

Nice! My grandparents bought their 2000 Chevy 2500 4x4 extended cab short box brand new. It was listed at $29,000 but after all the fees it came out to $32,000. It only has 94,000 miles. My mom liked theirs so much that a few years ago she bought a 2001 Chevy silverado 1500 extended cab short box 4x4 for $13,000. She now only has 92,000 miles on it. In 2021 when prices were going crazy my co-worker bought a 1999 chevy 1500 extended cab short box 4x4 with only 76,000 miles for $15,000 in mint condition. He was like this is way cheaper than paying $70,000 for a brand new one!

[@gogmorgoaway]

I don't see myself replacing my 2004 2500 RCLB 6.0/4x4/5-speed with something with an automatic any time soon. The new trucks objectively are better in every way, but that old school workhorse is just a truck, not trying to do other things. It just feels right. It tows more than you legally can here on a standard license, and GVWR is just under the cutoff for annual commercial inspections. Also I only paid $3k for it, and parts are cheap and everywhere.

[@reignfire85]

My dad had an early '90s C1500 when I was a kid. I do like Chevy/GMC on a few points (the step cutout on the back bumper is a brilliant idea), they make some pretty nice trucks.

[@benjaminlibertarianscorpio]

Quadrasteer was offered only on the GMC Sierra 1500 models I believe

[@JRs-guitars]

Correct. Chevy didn't not offer the 4 wheel steering.

[@JoshuaOverman]

Won’t be as reliable or work as good as the new one but if on a budget gmt800 is still a great choice

[@Drg24800]

The new ones are not ever going to be as reliable as the old ones. With the cylinder deactivation and emissions stuff they won’t be able to last 20+ years.

[@Edro1973]

I remember how nice the cloth seats were in the gmt 800s,now if you buy a truck with cloth seats, then just look Cheap.

[@Tbar24]

There’s something for every buyer and that’s the beauty of it.

[@Deerslayer1912]

GMT 800s are one of if not the best trucks ever made

[@miguelbarrazamontano2242]

Buen día TFLT. Me quedo con la generación 99-06. Saludos 👍

[@chrismarbrey9678]

I had the refreshed version the cat eye

[@Cloud30000]

I wish the removable “midgate” was not unique to the Silverado EV (and discontinued models), as it seems like there is nothing preventing ICE trucks from implementing it and helps to mitigate the crew cabs having a smaller bed. Obviously, you aren’t filling it with mulch, but it sure makes hauling 10 foot pipes and poles easier on the rare (for most homeowners not using it professionally for construction) occasion that’s needed. I can comfortably hang an 8’ board or plywood out the end of the tailgate, but 10’ makes me nervous when people pull up behind me, even when it’s flagged in orange.

On body on frame pickups the cab is separate from the bed, this mid-gate feature is typically on unibody vehicles.

[@kelviskelvis7140]

The Avalanche was based on the Suburban which had a frame. Today it is wholly different, the SEV is a body on battery. The battery is the rigid structure which the body rides on and the bed is not separate from the cab. The chassis is the battery. I have seen my truck on a lift, that is a huge battery. So no removable “midgate” on ICE trucks is possible.

@@kelviskelvis7140 The SEV is a unibody, the battery box is not the vehicle frame.

@@kelviskelvis7140 " So no removable “midgate” on ICE trucks is possible." The Avalanche was an ICE vehicle built on an SUV chassis and had a midgate.

[@bobparker3215]

My 2003 Silverado SS is pushing 200k and that engine runs as good as when it was on the showroom floor with nothing but oil changes and a set of spark plugs. Recently bought a low mile 2018 to upgrade thinking I was pushing my luck at 200k with the old GMT800. Big mistake, it is nicer in almost every way but the AFM and transmissions are a big problem with the newer ones. Glad I kept the old one around

[@Jay-me7gw]

All of the GMT800 trucks in new england disintegrated from rust 10+ years ago. They might have been good trucks but they did not last. I know people that literally had theirs towed to the junk yard with good motor and transmissions because the rest of the vehicle was so badly corroded that it couldnt even be worked on. simple brake or suspension work became multi-day jobs because of the cutting and hacking and PB blasting that needed to be done to get bolts and parts separated.

[@JRs-guitars]

Ahhh PB blaster...that brings me back lol.

[@BamaTidefan1967]

Fluid film or wool wax is a must in the Northeast!

[@Name-kd5jj]

Something has seemed to change is the size. The new trucks feel so much bigger. But I looked it up and they're not really that much bigger. GM800 wheelbase: 119-143.5 length: 203.3-246.7 width: 78.5 height: 74-77 GMT T1XX wheelbase: 126.5-147.4 length: 210.7-241.2 width: 81.2 height: 75.4-78.5 But I swear they feel at least 25% larger on the outside. You can barely reach over the thing to get to the dipstick or over the bedside to get things out. The GMT800 was much more accessible by comparison.

[@Jay-me7gw]

No they arent bigger. Everyone acts like they are. They are more puffy I think though. And taller.

[@OMR-Tex]

2002 Silverado Z71 with 344,000 miles. Just replaced all the gaskets and seals. Maintenance is cheap, tows about anything. I also have a 2023 Trailboss LT. they’re two worlds apart. It all depends what mood you’re in. 😂

[@johnmaas4298]

My2002 2500HD 377,869 and still going, original engine, transmission but rebuilt transfer case.