2020 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk Turbo Off-Road Review

[@drivingsports]

Renegade or Crosstrek?

[@DaHerrKulzer]

Crosstrek 😊

[@XelaOso850]

Honda passport.. 🙌🏼

[@kenik]

Lease: either choices Buy: crosstrek

[@BenTLador]

Crosstrek... But with a manual. I currently own an XV (crosstrek in my country), but sadly, it only comes in a CVT here. Would love to see how the crosstrek fares in the same trail.

[@MNsaint]

What are your thoughts on how a 6MT Crosstrek would compare with the Renegade Trailhawk?

[@goldenteacher5g626]

I'm happy I got my brand new renny trailhawk for only $ 26,000 usd on black Friday last year. It has leather seats, panoramic sunroof, blind spot assist, 8.4 inch screen, beats speaker and heated seats and steering wheel. I love it!

[@confettihunterminus1]

As a previous subaru owner and current renegade owner, there’s no question for me that the renegade is worlds beyond even subaru’s when it comes to off road prowess. I’ve taken my renegade through texas mud bogs and moab rocks and it has yet to fail me. That being said I have done some modifications but that is another great part about this car is the aftermarket support and the great community!

[@evoemperor3776]

That is because it has a proper transmission rather than a scooter derived one from subaru.

[@Natethegreat200c]

evo emperor and skid plate and a real AWD system. Not that bullshit in Subaru. The trans has nothing to do with anything.

[@grantdeisig1360]

confettihunterminus1, When I test drove the 2020 renegade, it had severe gas pedal lag (almost half a second). This was especially noticeable when hammered to the floor and then quickly releasing the pedal, only to hear the engine still continuing to rev higher, despite your foot being off the pedal. Is this a common trait with the Renegades? Or did the one I test drive have an out of sync pedal? Just curious, because I never felt this in other drive by wire systems, but this was the only Renegade I have tested, and I would like to buy one maybe this year. The salesman wasn't much help on the topic...lol

[@Natethegreat200c]

Grant Deisig my mom has a compass and I noticed the same thing. But it’s only at the beginning, no big deal. It’s not a speedy car anyways, if you wanna get rid of that you’ll have to get a Cherokee with the v6. 4cyl with that zf trans seems to equal lag off the line.

[@confettihunterminus1]

Grant Deisig Super common unfortunately. That being said there’s a company called madness autoworks that has what they call a go pedal that allows you to tune the throttle response. It’s a super neat piece of gear.

[@efone3553]

Luv my trailhawk. I have been off roading in my trailhawk all over the west. The only thing you really need to offroad the trailhawk is offroading knowledge thats all. Know and understand its limitations and its capabilities. Learn about the importance of tire pressure, and the different offroad modes and what they do. Take a jeep offroad driving lesson. Yep Jeep offers offroad driving lessons all over the country. Take one. Lastly get some good all terrain tires, the stock tires are ok for dry unimproved forest roads but when the rocks get sharp and the weather turns for the worse all terrains are going to get you home. Oh and some recovery gear, I have a towstrap, maxx trax, a jack and an air compressor to air up my tires when I get back on asphalt. Thats it thats all you really need to head out into the west and explore.

[@h3e44]

Noted

[@dirtycommtroop]

I think a lot of people forget that while the Crosstrek does have a lot of offroad features and may be a little cheaper it does not have the angles the renegade trailhawk does. Approach, departure, and breakover angles are very important! Youll notice the renegade trailhawk has a different front bumper than all the other trim levels.

[@onikin]

Even more important. Can a crosstrek be lifted easily 4" to almost 13" of clearance? Cause a Renegade can.

[@andrewpardo439]

@@onikin there’s a guy on KZbin that 14” rear diff clearance on his Rene

[@neillist5517]

Plus the Crosstrek is GUTLESS.

[@GIGABACHI]

I MUST be getting old, these little bricks on wheels are starting to look right up my alley.

[@tentifr]

"Little bricks" this car isnt that small though.

[@andys4971]

Toaster Jeep to you!

[@ericg9092]

I was just thinking that same thing. Lol

[@PatrickRich]

I would argue that the turbo motor is a lot better choice for this than the old 2.4. The old 2.4 had much less torque much higher in the rev range. While the turbo needs a little speed to spool up, it will still have more torque at Torque Converter stall speeds than the old 2.4, especially at elevation. I think the addition of the Turbo motor is a big reason to buy this new model over the old one.

[@RKmndo]

They need to boost the 2.4L. LOL

[@phineashenshaw]

I dis-agree. The 1.3 is definitely has more pep. But if you are going to do any towing, the 2.4 is better. I know a guy who has the 1.3L Turbo and he is on his 3rd Engine. He tows a lot and carries a lot of weight overlanding. Because of this, I found a 2018 Trailhawk with the 2.4. More towing stability and I saved $15000 over a new one. Win win!!!

[@PatrickRich]

@@phineashenshaw who tows with a renegade?

[@phineashenshaw]

@@PatrickRich Well, he tows an off road camping trailer. The 2.4 is rated for 2000lbs towing. A lot of Overlanders I know prefer the Trailer over the roof top tents. But of course most people do not pay attention to a vehicle's designed load capacity weight limit...LOL I tow a small trailer with a motorcycle on it. Since I mostly overland solo, I do not need the extra space and would need a trailer.

[@paladin11C40]

I believe they switched motors in anticipation of the electrified drivetrain they are going to put in this, which FCA already sells in Europe along with the Compass.

[@afcgeo882]

I was able to go onto the Jeep website and without adding anything except the winter group, I was able to get an MSRP of a Renegade Trailhawk down to $26,855, with the same 1.3L turbo and automatic. Heated manual cloth/leather seats, a 7” UConnect, no sunroof (less weight and no leaking) and less to break down for FAR less money than what you’ve tested, but the same capability. You could probably get extra $3-4k off at the dealership too.

[@calebworkman3883]

Just picked one up tonight for 23k. Pretty excited to get it out!

[@theautomator2001]

Omegalul...yall think you got a great deal on this turd box when its only worth 20k max. It was way overpriced just so clowns who actually buy this car think think they're getting a deal when they get 10k of msrp with "rebates, discounts.." Again turdbox car is worth 20k FCA magically adds 10k in price just so clowns can get a "discount" on the car, this tactic has been used for decades with shite selling cars.

[@michaels999]

Ted Theodore Logan yeah it’s such bs inflate the price and give discounts, ridiculous

[@LeoMkII]

@@theautomator2001 agree, it doesn't reach 30k in my country where any piece of crap with wheels is over 15 easily, granted, its a Mercosur version (a.k.a even worse, way less safe) but still, overpriced

[@StandingUpForBetter]

Renegade for me! The more I see of this 2020 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk, the more impressed I am. I love the idea of having a small, capable 4wd vehicle that can actually fit in my garage. I think I found my next 4wd vehicle. Thanks!

[@jimpeschke3435]

I've got a 2017 Deserthawk and use it for off roading all the time. It is a truly amazing car - performs well above its price tag.

[@mikelovell9661]

Better off buying a mid size crew cab pickup truck with 4x4

[@jimpeschke3435]

@@mikelovell9661 A pickup, where most of your vehicle is exposed to the elements. No thanks.

[@mikelovell9661]

@@jimpeschke3435 actually crew cabs have more room than most cars. also a bed cover can be bought as well as other stuff.. Renegades are trash btw. churching it up with tires and trailhawk badges dont make it better

[@jimpeschke3435]

@@mikelovell9661 Whatever you say. I sure enjoy the extra cash in my pocket too.

[@1969darr]

My wife has the Renegade Trail hawk, I drive a Rubicon And yes the Renegade keeps up with a tug now and then on leisure trails but for the most part is spot on, no complaints.

[@Wizardnil]

Good review, but you missed a couple points: 1. Subaru has 8.7” ground clearance 2. Trailhawk has lot of underbody protection compared to other SUVs in the same category

[@operator8014]

The Crosstrek absolutely doesn't have 8.7" of ground clearance. They're being VERY hopeful with their "specs".

[@confettihunterminus1]

Another good thing to note is that the jeep does come with skid plates on the trail hawk! Awesome video!

[@ac346673]

Also the trail hawk has sloped front and back compared to the other trims.

[@jimpeschke3435]

I thank God for the skid plates and sloped ends every time I go into the woods. I would have trashed a less protected car long ago.

[@DigitalYojimbo]

Cool now the dealer will charge and extra hour when it's in for service. Which will probably be a lot.

[@confettihunterminus1]

@@DigitalYojimbo They never have for me. Take them off yourself if you’re worried.

[@ahmedkamel3862]

I like that you use the same hill to test all cars, which gives us a fair comparison. I also don't care much how or what engages in the Renegade, it did the job and that's all what matters... Thanks

[@RichardVac]

I have seen your videos and I can truly say much better off roader than the competition, hands down

[@crisbwilliams]

I’m old enough to remember when the power this Jeep has use to be reserved for a sport car. Remember when a trans am had 180hp.... yeah I do.

[@Jferrari427]

Lol my first car was an 86 Trans Am. It has like 200 HP total and a 5.0L V8 lol. Yep, I remember that too ! Lol. Still love that car though.

[@michaels999]

Jferrari427 the good old days, are we old ? LOL

[@sking2173]

@@Jferrari427 - the ‘86 305 already could be had with the TPI (Tuned Port Injection), and those things would jump from 0-60. The worst year was ‘82, with the carbed engine so strangled off that you could hear it wheeze when you stabbed the gas. Those good-old-days weren’t so good if you appreciated spirited performance.

[@mauricel.ramirez6533]

I bought this Jeep a couple of days ago, same power train except in Limited trim, and I love this thing! Same color as in the video as well. Reviewers should keep in mind that people that are going to be going for cars like a Renegade or even a cross trek are normal folks that aren’t looking for the vehicle to pull off the line like a... sports. car. It may be a college student looking for something sporty and capable. I’m coming from a 2008 Ford Escape, so really anything is better than what I had. The power is awesome, the power is really there when you need to pass someone on the highway. I’ve gone thru THICK mud and made it out... in a limited trim. I’d recommend this thing forsure! Also, with rebates you can get that $37k down to $30-31 easy, maybe even less. My limited came out to $23k.

[@ac346673]

I have a 2016 fully loaded trail hawk. Has its problems but I still love it. Snow mode has come in handy in more than 1 occasion. Got stuck at the beach. Used sandmode to get out and hooked up to the other cars stuck using the dedicated hooks. The trail hawk also has a higher clearance, sloped front/back and skid plates underneath in comparison to a regular renegade. I'm also able to pop off 2 plates off the top to make it feel more like an open top Wrangler.

[@TRDGE]

My wife wants one. I can totally see why. I like it. Doable monthly and worth the money imo.

[@Catman1798]

I have a 2015 trailhawk with the 2.4 engine and I bought a madness autoworks autoflash and go pedal to give it more pep. Works just fine gives me the power I need. Autoflash makes the transmission shift smoother and the go pedal makes the gas pedal more sensitive to touch. Takes off faster from the line. I have had the two items for about 3 years now I believe. They posted my video on KZbin when I first got it and had them installed.

[@evansmugambi9871]

I love your reviews one day you'll hit 5million subscribers keep doing what you are doing.

[@mustangboss3749]

I don't have the trail hawk but I have the latitude but that being said it is still amazing off-road it came with 4x4 and different drive modes like mud,rock,sand,snow and 4x4 lock took it to a very muddy trail never got stuck once!

[@cwyoming7004]

That looked like a fun day for you! I've always loved jeeps. I own a GC Summit diesel and a Cherokee TH. My son owns an Impreza Sport manual transmission. Both brands have been reliable and given us smiles when using them. Thanks for the video and take it easy all.

[@joerader6532]

Just bought a 19 renegade 2.4 Saturday. . Love it so far

[@richardmiller1256]

My wife has a Renegade Sport Upland, which has most of the TH capability without all the expensive crap. We test drove a Crosstrek when shopping for the jeep and found driving the CVT painfully boring. They also have issues with burning those CVTs up driving on hills or more difficult off-road situations. The Renegade has it's issues, but I found it to be a lot more fun and capable.

[@iornhawk321]

Test drive a base model bronco sport and renegade trail hawk. The bronco sport was 29000 and did not come with much. The renegade was loaded with everything. I ended up getting the trail hawk and couldn't be happier. To get the same features in the bronco sport you would have to spend 38000. I was able to get my renegade for 27000.

[@dylanmoffitt8399]

Anyone else notice that Volbeat came up when he went to audio? Great taste in music

[@joerivs80]

I have an ‘18 Trailhawk and I’ve gotten the “jump in with me, your Jeep won’t make it” from my wrangler friends. I laugh and go anyways and they get impressed that my baby Jeep, or my toaster Jeep can go everywhere the wranglers can go. Obviously not meant to rock crawl but off-road is easy for it.

[@JonasAlexanderson]

I got an '18 Trailhawk as well. Love the car. I've had no issues whatsoever with the car, running like a Swiss clock. I don't do much off-roading but when I need it delivers. A fun car to drive.

[@markmassey3506]

Lol keep telling yourself that lol a yj jeep is bettet than your jeep

[@joerivs80]

@@markmassey3506 😂🤣😂 oh ok!!! 🤣😂🤣 whatever makes you sleep better bub. 👍🏻😂🤣

[@joshuarichardson5329]

I have a 2015 Renegade Latitude. For me, I wanted something with decent gas mileage (averaging around 27/28mpg), more room than a sedan, 4x4 (great for PA winters) and a manual transmission (more of a want than a need). My Renegade hit all of the marks for me. It has some electronic issues, nothing major, but I can't seem to keep my brakelight on. All in all, I love it.

[@teop7887]

These little Trailhawks are amazing! There are tons of videos on KZbin showing these baby jeeps tackle some pretty challenging trails. 200 lb/ft of torque is pretty amazing for such a small package. 😎👍👍

[@zeuscaldas]

Great video! I have a Jeep Renegade Trailhawk, it is an amazing car. Greetings from Brazil!

[@doubled5982]

I have a 2018 Trailhawk w/2.4L. Ive driven it almost everywhere Ive taken my Polaris RZR, and its handled everything like a champ. The Colorado Rockies roads/trails I frequent are a lot more aggressive than anything in this video. Ive plowed through 2 feet of snow, and crossed streams up to 16” deep. I haven’t modified anything on my “Baby Jeep”, and I don’t intend to. It’s a remarkable little SUV on and off road. I average a combined 27mpg, and its nice to only pay $25 or so to fill it up. It’s not the most powerful vehicle in the world, and you have to plan ahead to pass someone on 2 lane mountain roads. I wouldn’t recommend the Renegade to anyone with more than 2 children over 9 or 10 years old unless your making short trips around town. Honestly, the back seat leg room is lacking. For my girlfriend, my small dog, and I, it’s perfect even on long drives. As far as cost, mine had a sticker price of $31,900.00, but I waited, for sales and discounts. I payed $26,500 including the extended warranty, and a couple other things. If you like the vehicle, wait until you can get serious discounts on it. Full honesty, I love my “Baby Jeep”, and it has some great perks, but it’s not worth the $37,000.00 sticker price they are asking for!!!!

[@themeettrees]

This car is the perfect marriage between on and off road. Imagine if you tested the EU version with the turbo 2.0L diesel low end torque engine! It feels almost like having a real low range.

[@spyder000069]

Watching these compact suv videos showing off road performance makes me appreciate the old 2001 Chevy Tracker ZR2 (same as suzuki vitara) we had. Same size as this but has a sold rear axle, body on frame (no unibody), REAL 4x4 with real low range, and a decent 6 cyl engine. These new ones have better mpg and are more refined and safer but I don't think they are built as durable.

[@tallll70]

14:27 no it's not proper hard locker, but it still makes difference that you can preselect it instead waiting for slip

[@lemarquis6110]

Who said that renegade isn’t a real jeep?! Great car, great video! 👍

[@rickymillerii]

I would be very happy to be able to go where he went with that Renegade. It sounds like he is probably paid by Subaru, it's the only way I can make sense of some of his comments. Looking through the comments I see people have found his errors in trying to make the connection to the 2 vehicles. The video footage of what the Jeep was capable of was amazing.

[@greggb681]

9:55 What do you mean turbo motors dont have low end torque? Like wtf are you smoking??

[@off-roadingexplained8417]

If you reverse calculate the break over angle to determine mid vehicle clearance you can figure out that the Subaru Crosstrek is going to be 9.1 in off the ground mid vehicle. The Renegade Trailhawk however, is 11.55 inches off the ground mid vehicle. It has to be to achieve the break over angle that it has of about 25 degrees. You can use wheelbase and breakover angle to find mid vehicle height. What this means is that on the Subaru the suspension arms are more flush with the bottom of the vehicle and on the Renegade they're going to droop down more ... And then that's where that 8.7 in number is coming from is the bottom of the suspension arms which is really almost tire size dependent. So for perspective the Wrangler Rubicon extreme Recon is 12.9 in to the differential with 35 inch tires . To the same place on that Renegade it's going to be about 11.5 inches , maybe 11 in the front. So you're only 2 in lower than a Wrangler with 35s... 200 bucks will probably get you a 2-in lift and bring the center clearance of that Renegade to the same as a Wrangler with 35s... It's crazy stuff but when you do the math you'll be surprised... With just a 2-in lift on my Cherokee Trailhawk and 30.6-in tires I'm beating the breakover angle of a Wrangler Rubicon extreme Recon that has 35 inch tires. With just a simple lift I'm 40° front and rear and then I'm 28° break over. When you put a Cherokee Trailhawk at about the same height as the Wrangler you get almost the same angles actually. You'll get better break over and you'll get almost as good approach and departure.... Kind of surprising but it's true. I'm actually 14 in to my rock sliders with a 2 inch lift and only a half inch lift from the tires... But if you read the spec sheet it's going to say 8.7 in because that's to the suspension arm... And then with the bigger tires it's going to be 9.2... but I'm 14 in to my rock sliders.... Other than the Renegade having better angles and clearance I would agree with you that the Subaru is probably pretty close. Cherokee Trailhawk... No... It will kill a Subaru... No contest.

[@kapilwalia4118]

Just One Word For It... "AWESOME "

[@amerrr3368]

I thought the Subaru awd system is the best in the market now but this thing is actually even better. Well done jeep!

[@renzodelacruz7281]

Who skips to the offroad part when you guys see DSTV new video? I do

[@SilveredRaven]

My 2015 Renegade goes 0-60 in roughly 16 seconds if I'm flooring it. So seeing a renegade 5 years later being able to do it in nearly half the time is a big plus right out of the gate, along with all of the other standard features it seems that they have added.

[@VroomTech]

you got the wrong renegade

[@dealy9268]

These little Jeeps are awesome. I have a Wrangler JK and my wife has a 2018 Renegade. We have mods on both. These little Jeeps can do way more then what was shown in this video. Renegades have also gotten a Jeep culture all their own. There are tons of Renegade Face Book group pages. renegades are showing up at all the trail rides and holding their own. I have even seen one perform a rescue by pulling out a Toyota FJ. It started out as a joke and then a question of can it do it. IT did. There is a video floating around somewhere. It was at Uwharrie in NC.

[@pixelsbyobrince5606]

I need to stop watching or I'm gonna rob a bank and buy this tonight right away

[@mohamedmadid4140]

i dont think this car worth

[@pixelsbyobrince5606]

@@mohamedmadid4140 Yeah I actually reviewed the car last week and, no it's not worth the price

[@thechinchilla5530]

Why not rob the car straight?

[@sking2173]

@@thechinchilla5530 - Stolen cars don’t have a warranty ...

[@thechinchilla5530]

@@sking2173 just steal another!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

LOCK button in Renegade is kind of tricky - car still may be in FWD mode. It only locks the driveshaft at front.

[@ALMX5DP]

Well there’s no actual locker anywhere, it just uses brakes to hold one wheel. Does it not do that for the rear as well?

[@afcgeo882]

In the US, the center lock button locks (electronically) the center differential via the PTU to a 50/50 torque output. There’s no such thing as locking a driveshaft.

[@drivingsports]

FCA would absolutely not confirm the torque split (trade secret, they said.)

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@afcgeo882 I don't think it is different in US and EU, this awd system is entirely delivered by GKN. Renegade doesn't have center DIFFERENTIAL but two clutch-packs. One clutch-pack is in the PTU - and LOCK button locks this one. Another clutch-pack is at the back and this one is responsible for torque that goes to the rear. Both clutches open - driveshaft is at standstill. Front clutch-pack locked - driveshaft is engaged but not necessarily powering rear wheels.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@ALMX5DP It does but I was talking about front/rear torque distribution, explained in the comment above.

[@pnwautocar5291]

Where’d you film the off-road bits? Looking for some local trails :)

[@drivingsports]

Sorry, can’t share for fear of them getting overrun!

[@tabdeboer]

In order to do a proper 0-62Mph timing, you'll need to put her in manual and shift to 1st gear. These 9-speed auto boxes start in 2nd, only going down to first in some offroad modes by default or when up against an incline.

[@StrycD]

$37,000 for a compact cuv! No thank you!

[@ALMX5DP]

I’m sure there are deals and incentives aplenty.

[@afcgeo882]

You can get $6k off easily. Same car without leather, sun roof, power seats or blind spot is down to $26k.

[@confettihunterminus1]

If you’re interested in it buy certified used

[@afcgeo882]

confettihunterminus1 You can’t get the 1.3T used yet. It’s new.

[@afcgeo882]

JF Except that was a loooong time ago and that’s not an “out the door” price, which would be around $31k. That’s also for a FULLY loaded one, with every single option and accessory. Also, you paid $37k out the door on a TRD Taco? LIE! The TRD Pro STARTS at $43,960 and the discounts aren’t much.

[@anibalbabilonia1867]

That's very impressive! I bet with some different tires like the bfgoodrich ko2! It would do amazingly well!😎👍

[@carlosmiguelariasrodriguez5107]

Yes sure it will

[@levigato125]

The Renegade is getting long in the tooth since 2020 is it’s 6th model year. The 2.5 in the 2021 Crosstrek will finally give it proper power.

[@Natethegreat200c]

How is the renegade getting long in the tooth ? What’s old about it?

[@happycampers.1837]

That CVT will suck the fun out of that 2.5. I have owned a lot of Subaru’s starting back in 92, my last one was a 2016 outback with the 6 cylinder and the CVT and it’s the last Subaru I will own until they drop the CVT.

[@michaels999]

Happy Campers. But the crosstrek is way better on gas if anyone cares plus now with 182 hp might have to consider

[@luchaDor]

The Renegade has already been refreshed once. BU model 15-18, BV model is '19 to Current, updated body design and added the 1.3L Turbo.

[@adrianbargen9727]

My wifes renegade gets 27.7mpg. We drive about 480 miles a week. And we haven't reset that calculation in two years. Also my understanding is that when you engage 4-lock, you aren't going to transfer power front to back anymore. It works like a typical 4x4.

[@darkwingduck4876]

Wish the Cherokee had the this front end!

[@nairolfnednilruz]

Thanks for the comparison with Subaru, that was really interesting! I always liked the Subs but love the little Renegade very much (looks much better imo).

[@lowrangemaniac5326]

If you want torque, you need to test the european version with the 2.0 turbodiesel 170hp, like mine... I'm italian

[@valdenirfelixdossantos1755]

Our Renegade produced in Brazil has an 2.0 litre turbodiesel too.

[@andys4971]

Dam! I wish they sold the diesel here in the US. Trade out my 2016 renegade trailhawk tomorrow for the diesel

[@zeuscaldas]

So do mine! I'm from Brazil, same here for Trailhawk version.

[@lowrangemaniac5326]

@@zeuscaldas I didn't knew it! ✌️✌️✌️

[@lowrangemaniac5326]

@Pedro Areias I have an average of 14 km/L (we use metric system) because where I live it's a mountain territory full of hills

[@RCPhotosVideos]

Renegade also has skid plates, also the lower end renegades are just missing rock mode and hill decent…so you can easily compare them to the crosstrek

[@nickknee3515]

I really liked this review, heading off onto a road that you've never been on and conquering it with no problem. The Trailhawk did a real good job for what it is but I'd still prefer the Subaru. My sister had (emphasis on HAD) one of these Jeeps when they first came out. She needed it for snowy situations because she works at a ski mountain here in Maine and the road up to the mountain is pretty steep, it's paved but steep. It did what she need it to do for about 25k miles and then it died one day. After getting a $2500 wiring harness put in it was fixed, but then wheel bearings started to go and then suspension bushings. She finally got rid of it at four years old with 36k miles on it and she finally listened to me and bought a trouble free Subaru.

[@cflowers69]

I got rid of my 2016 Renegade Trailhawk because it was eating a quart of oil every other month. Bought a 2020 gladiator and have zero regrets 🤪

[@semipenguin]

Both the Renegade and the Crosstrek were on my list if I hadn’t gone with the Wrangler. I like them both. I really love my JLU Sport S, tho 😊

[@gigatigga]

"Turbo motors don't have a lot of low end torque." What?...that discredited the entire video for me.

[@andys4971]

Well not all of em but since it’s such a small 4 cyl, it doesn’t have great torque. I heard that too and was confused cause you can turbo any motor so I think he was just talkin about this motor specifically

[@neudimensions1320]

I think he was referring to turbo lag.

[@RKmndo]

@@neudimensions1320 Turbos can be designed to spool up at low engine RPM. Forced induction is GREAT for high altitudes in the mountains.

[@johnmathias4871]

It's an old guy thing. I also have "old guy turbo prejudice" and have a nearly hardwired saying in my head that goes "superchargers are awesome for low end grunt while turbochargers are great for high rev horsepower." Apparently, modern turbos can (and are being) designed to allow for the turbo lag at low RPM's to be much less than it was in "ye-olden-days."

[@toyota420xp]

All new turbo 4 cylinders basically deliver all there power way down low

[@americanrambler4972]

I got a kick out of your comment “shift by committee.” An apt description of transmission shift performance. I have the same situation with my 2015 Ram Promaster City with the 2.4 TigerShark and 9 speed automatic. All too often there is a one and two count before the movement of the gas peddle is answered by the engine and transmission.

[@WildlandExplorer]

At least you took it up some steep rocks. There are reviewers with hundreds of thousands of views who never took it off pavement. To be honest, I drive stuff like that 1st rocky road in a 2007 2wd manual transmission Hyundai Accent with no ground clearance, like all the time. Just to get to hikes. I'm surprised what tame conditions people take these out on as off-road tests. But it makes me more confident when I see this stuff that some of the negative youtube commenters a la "get a wrangler" are mostly full of it. Sometimes it comes down to the driver and picking a line.

[@drivingsports]

It’s a fine balance since these vehicles are loaned by the makers and they frown on the type of damage that can occur on rougher trails.

[@garyjarvis2730]

My 2023 Renegade Limited is very responsive without much turbo lag at all. It is a fun little Jeep inspiring confidence on the road in daily use. Nice to have the AWD system when the weather becomes a challenge. These vehicles are actually quite capable if you drive them correctly. The Limited has better on road performance with wider wheels and tires. So far it does everything I ask of it. At the limit the Jeep will perform better than the Subaru CVT.

[@afcgeo882]

Subaru has 8.7”, not 8.9” of ground clearance.

[@drivingsports]

Yup! Thanks for the correction.

[@bt4b4]

Geez relax George L.

[@marcymcsheehan3579]

George is right, and the difference between 8.7 to 8.9 is marriage and divorce! So please don't make that mistake again ;-)!!!!!

[@drivingsports]

Marcy McSheehan 😂

[@afcgeo882]

Marcy McSheehan Maybe not divorce, but a few thousands of dollars in damage definitely.

[@tlopez2608]

Great video. Definitely changed my opinion about them seeing their capability.

[@NGMonocrom]

Wait! 8.5 seconds _WITH_ the turbo on the Trailhawk, 0-60mph. The Renegade (same model year) in the base trim *WITHOUT* the turbo is 9 seconds. How massively heavy are all those electronic extras on that Trailhawk that performance is reduced by so much, even with a turbo attached?

[@NiceBowser]

As a renegade owner with the turbo, I really think it is just the transmission holding it back. I’ve noticed if you ease into 1st gear instead of slamming the gas, the turbo is peppier and a lot quicker… but that number could be lowered. What’s really important is that torque to pull yourself out of being stuck vs no turbo

[@YuckTradingCo]

seriously contemplating trading my 2016 Kia Soul+ in for a 2017 Renegade Limited model. I reckon it'd handle these New England winters miles better than a Soul could.

[@treborheminway3814]

For the money, You would think they would have a bigger engine. At least it doesn't use a cvt....Great review as always.

[@zacharymartinez9455]

On a couple of camera angles I thought he was sensoring rocks. I was like "why is he sensoring a rock? is it innapropriate or something lol?" Then I realized it was a rain drop XD

[@thomasbasler8112]

You forgot to discuss the skid plates on the Renegade vs the Cross trek which I suspect does not have skid plates when going off road.

[@Mandelbomb]

Dude, your vids are fricking sweet.

[@thecleanoffroader]

On my 2nd Renegade Trailhawk love them.. I offroad 30k miles a year and 20k on pavement

[@scott8919]

There are a lot of amazing things about this Jeep and I would totally buy one except there's a dealbreaker: it's a Jeep.

[@lakshmandalpadado9066]

Only the badge is Jeep. Everything else is Fiat.Renegade is great car, and one of the best I have driven. One simply falls in love with it. You cannot say the same for many cars -- except perhaps for Alfa Romeos ( previously owned cars include--Alfa Romeo Alfasud, Alfa Romeo Sprint Veloce, Audi Quattro Coupe, Mercedes CLK coupe, Mercedes E220 cdi, Volvo XC60 )

[@bc4198]

9:23 It would be super cool if you could get OBD telemetry / other data from the cars you test, to show what's happening behind the scenes!

[@JohnSchairer]

Love your videos, liked and subscribed. Thanks!

[@grantdeisig1360]

Maybe you weren't aware of this feature at the time of this video, but you can turn off the stability control by holding the traction control on/off button down for like 5-10 seconds. (can't remember exactly how long) I tried it on my test drive and it worked. But what exactly does it shut off? I'm not sure. It was snowy and icey and I didn't get really ballsy with it turned off...lol

[@drivingsports]

That doesn’t shut it off completely. With only a few exceptions, modern vehicles can’t completely disable stability control.

[@grantdeisig1360]

@@drivingsports What do you think it actually disables? Would have been cool to see your slow-mos with that feature disengaged. Just to see if it would have done anything at all differently. I can't remember what it said up on the dash when I turned it off, that was back in January, or if it performed any differently. If I remember right, no matter what settings I was in, I couldn't get the tires to spin.

[@ibilki]

Good test off road, thank you. In France, I saw a test : only on a stone road....bad guys !!

[@jamestom2510]

I wonder how the 2.4 trailhawk compares to the subaru forester

[@trevorleeanderson]

This is a really good review, thanks 👍

[@bc4198]

5:56 This meeting could have been an email 😆 Question: How would you compare Renegades to Elements and Escapes? Or even a Wilderness Subaru, for that matter.

[@saif890000000]

Test the Subaru crosstreck to compare it with the jeep

[@drivingsports]

Waiting on the refreshed model.

[@eddiev8148]

With my 2017 DesertHawk I found that if you stomp on the gas then quickly release and then ease into it that it picks up faster. Probably not the healthiest thing to do since it will jerk the car forward.

[@jimpeschke3435]

Got a 2017 Deserthawk also. Best car I've ever owned.

[@shiftintohigh5564]

To be fair, driving by committee is every car today, not just this Jeep.

[@buddha4957]

Now for the final test .... Reliability

[@joeperry9589]

You said “turbo motors don’t have a lot of low end torque” that’s simply not true. Peak torque is at 2,000 rpm. The old 2.4 n/a needs 3,900 rpm for peak torque. Every small turbo engine on the market is tuned for low end torque. To say they aren’t just couldn’t be further from the truth.

[@zero2sixty244]

I get 295 lb ft tq at 2k-3k RPM on my turbo

[@jovandjukic5923]

Agree with you. 100% true

[@markmassey3506]

I like that the average Joe can have a KZbin channel

[@redorange]

Turbo engines don’t have a lot of low end torque? The 1.3 turbo has peak torque @1750rpm, the 2.4 has peak torque @ 3900rpm. The 1.3 has a small turbo that allows it to spool faster for better low end torque. You also contradict yourself saying it runs out of breath at the higher rpm. Which is it? Are you saying the Renegade has no powerband?

[@paladin11C40]

This should be a great little car when FCA puts the electrified drive train in it, 4xe. There is a 2020 Renegade Trailhawk near me in Georgia, similar equipment, for $26,377.

[@thecleanoffroader]

You have to hold Traction control button for 8 seconds to disable everything.. then you get more rear wheel power

[@flightmedic7634]

Yep. I do the same thing on my Renegade Sport 4x4 with Manual. Very impressive what the system can do when you, as the driver, know all the tricks :)

[@stefanhansen5882]

Great review as always! Which is better offroad - the Renegade or the Compass? Thanks!

[@h3e44]

They're the same car just a different body.

[@mlvncgndhn9583]

i have the "stretch version" of this and id say it takes me where ever i want to go.. but of course, no crazy rock crawling

[@jimjim0058]

Mlvn Cgndhn Stretch version? That the compass or the Cherokee?

[@evoemperor3776]

9:55 turbo motor is known for low end torque its just that it has the wrong setup i mean what can you expect in a 1.3 and turbocharger? It is more of a small car engine rather than a compact suv.

[@richardcole6690]

5:30 that car has the same problem as my 08 Yaris... You have to rev higher if you want to feel like you're actually moving and not holding up traffic... I can get better mileage in town if I'm willing to "snail" around but if I want to even keep up with traffic between lights you have to rev it out a little bit more before you shift... Another great review...

[@jamesdarren9149]

8.7 inches of ground clearance is exactly what Subaru has across the line!!!!! Research please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤠 “Not 8.9” I still enjoy your channel so ✌️!!

[@jfmarzulli]

Which forest road is this? I'd love to get my Rubicon up there.

[@williamc.6168]

ok, so it can't go fast from 0 to 60 like a sports car, but can a sports car do this with ease? 8:27

[@montadharmohamad3141]

Is there a big deferent between trailhawk and limited in suspension system And Thank you for this video Iam really injoyed

[@truth959]

That Jeep AWD figures it out much faster than RAV4 AWD.

[@Shittytintprius]

When a Jeep and Kia soul go out to dinner...... 9 months later the renegade was born lol

[@dmacarthur5356]

More like a Jeep and a Fiat 500, looks slot like it's Italian mom. lol

[@lumpyize]

Why dont I see those red hooks on new Trailhawk models? EVen diesel ones after 2018? Did they like removed them in Europe?

[@Shatara_Styles]

I will own one of these soon.