Inside Pop -- The Rock Revolution

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@clambeandip
@clambeandip Жыл бұрын
Hats off to Maestro Bernstein, for being as open minded, interested and enthusiastic as he was (although he was only in his late forties at this point - back then ancient)
@rexmundi1570
@rexmundi1570 10 жыл бұрын
Treasures like this is why KZbin is so great. Worth watching just to hear Bernstein singing Beatles tunes.
@tonym994
@tonym994 7 жыл бұрын
absolutely! check out some time what he said about the lp'TOMMY' by the WHO.
@trimatch-king6103
@trimatch-king6103 7 жыл бұрын
Hy Tony, do you know the name of the video? thanks
@user-yl4lf9mh1w
@user-yl4lf9mh1w 7 жыл бұрын
I was watching a documentary about Brian Wilson and this video was mentioned, so I searched and found it and im watching the entire thing before going back to hear the guy in the brian wilson documentary finish his point.... truly amazing.
@ericdanielski4802
@ericdanielski4802 2 жыл бұрын
@@trimatch-king6103 Good question.
@gossamerglenn6714
@gossamerglenn6714 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to buy Brian a milk shake only guy Iv ever felt that way about lol
@MICKEYISLOWD
@MICKEYISLOWD 4 жыл бұрын
Eleanor Rigby he says 'curious'...this is because nobody had ever released a song like this before. It was ground breaking and genius.
@nikosvault
@nikosvault 3 жыл бұрын
He called it a great work of art a few years later (along with A Day In The Life and She's Leaving Home).
@jayburdification
@jayburdification 9 жыл бұрын
This is treasure. I wish there was a better quality copy...
@connermal
@connermal 12 жыл бұрын
I take it Bernstein was an intense Beatles fan! I never knew much about Bernstein until watching this video...now he has my new found respect!
@felixucoff
@felixucoff 7 жыл бұрын
lol Bernstein diggin that Revolver
@muchanadziko6378
@muchanadziko6378 3 жыл бұрын
so much
@antebellumstage
@antebellumstage 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Brian Wilson had released Surf's Up & SMiLE in 67 It would have changed music
@michaelharrington75
@michaelharrington75 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, because he would have went solo.
@nopeteys2424
@nopeteys2424 3 жыл бұрын
Bernstein was infatuated with Brian Wilson after Pet Sounds came out, i mean who wasnt, but it totally blew his mind. That clip of Brian playing and singing Surf’s Up is one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever seen/heard.
@vickipaluch1519
@vickipaluch1519 7 жыл бұрын
I was 12 when this first aired. It was so important. Watts Riots in August 1965. Leonard Bernstein was so aware of the connections between life and culture. He worked in High Culture as conductor of the NY PHil, also worked in lower/popular culture -- West Side Story. But he shone a light on what was happening in American culture. He put a spotlight on Janis Ian and her hit, "Society's Child." It was a ballad about interracial love and its offspring. Bernsteinstein kissed her hand. He knew what was happening and he and his team knew what was to come. It stands today.
@paulfini402
@paulfini402 7 жыл бұрын
OMG, Bernstein is awesome in this. He is so into this 'new pop music' and he totally jams to Harrisons "Love To You" 12:50. Great analysis, Leonard.
@jasonlefler3456
@jasonlefler3456 10 жыл бұрын
i just listened to the Finale of Stravinsky's Firebird Suite as conducted by Bernstein yesterday. that's magic. it's great to listen to the Maestro talking about the best of pop with such enthusiasm. that he breaks down some of these songs to their mechanics is refreshing, especially with The Beatles.
@monolight1327
@monolight1327 5 жыл бұрын
Brian Wilson
@maraboo72
@maraboo72 8 жыл бұрын
Bernstein is one of my favourite conductors because he was open to music as a whole regardless of genres. I think that gave him the possibility to get the best out of it. Or what I think to be the best.
@delphinbringsby6768
@delphinbringsby6768 5 жыл бұрын
The whole thing is ok, but when Brian plays "Surf's Up" it becomes legendary. Really only for that piece. So brilliant.
@ronbo11
@ronbo11 3 жыл бұрын
That is a highlight for me as well! Brian Wilson and Van Dyke Parks wrote some really advanced music and lyrics for this time and if only Brian had held it together and finished "Smile", I wonder what impact it would have had on the Pop scene.
@clambeandip
@clambeandip Жыл бұрын
Well yes, Brian playing Surf's Up is wonderful, but I have to say, 16 year old Janis Ian performing a song as lyrically meaningful and musically adventurous is pretty astounding as well.
@kookadams85
@kookadams85 4 ай бұрын
Yep.
@braydencullum742
@braydencullum742 8 жыл бұрын
Brian Wilson brought me here
@tonym994
@tonym994 7 жыл бұрын
the film of him on 'surf's up' is classic.
@samanasif6042
@samanasif6042 6 жыл бұрын
me too! i knew this was from a leonard bernstein special, but had no idea it was here
@225marklin3
@225marklin3 5 жыл бұрын
His masterpiece.
@TheReverantChoir
@TheReverantChoir 7 жыл бұрын
Would've been great if Bernstein talked about Pet Sounds, that album pushed the boundaries of pop music to a high standard comparable to the most sophisticated works of art of all time. Such a shame it didn't get the recognition it deserved at the time in America, but I feel like that album is infinite and will be heard until the end of time.
@IgnacioClerici-mp5cy
@IgnacioClerici-mp5cy 4 жыл бұрын
Nah
@gossamerglenn6714
@gossamerglenn6714 Жыл бұрын
This is post
@MedievalRichard
@MedievalRichard 8 жыл бұрын
Brian's performance here blew my mind many years ago when I first watched this. Genius.
@eowyn1964
@eowyn1964 5 жыл бұрын
God bless you, Mr. B., for defending the popular music I love so dearly.
@maurogajardo620
@maurogajardo620 11 жыл бұрын
One of the best eras in rock-pop music 1965-1969
@calebscomedy11201
@calebscomedy11201 8 жыл бұрын
Mauro Gajardo 1965-1977 was the best
@389383
@389383 3 жыл бұрын
@@calebscomedy11201 The whole 20th century was the best for Human Pop. !9th for Classical, 21st for Machines.
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 9 жыл бұрын
"Surf's Up" was intended to be included on The Beach Boys' "Smile" album, originally scheduled for release in the spring of 1967. It wasn't-- it finally became the title track for their 1971 album of the same name.
@ms8596
@ms8596 9 жыл бұрын
+Barry I. Grauman Just think listening to that what Brian was capable of if he had jettisoned the familial stones around his neck. Pet Sounds and Smile should have been the Brian Wilson solo career.
@TooCooFoYou
@TooCooFoYou 8 жыл бұрын
Brian tried that with _Caroline, No_. It didn't do well from what I've read.
@leoshow1the1
@leoshow1the1 7 жыл бұрын
it was a snippet of 1966
@nowdid
@nowdid 9 жыл бұрын
How in the world can anybody thumbs down this wonderful documentary?
@SluffAdlin
@SluffAdlin 8 жыл бұрын
+david stanley perhaps because the hippie generation ended up being full of shit....great ideas, never followed through with them. Btw I did like this video for I am a fan of 1960/70's music and the works Leonard Bernstein.
@dvdmike
@dvdmike 11 жыл бұрын
Leonard Bernstein was the rare classical and jazz composer-conductor who actually liked pop music.
@sydneyjuleschannel
@sydneyjuleschannel 10 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful snapshot of a moment of Pop History in mid-1967. Of course, anything of this nature featuring Lenny Bernstein is pure gold. I must say however, that Herman's Hermits were allocated a disproportionate amount of time both in what they had to say and in terms of their talents.
@debrabrabenec3731
@debrabrabenec3731 4 жыл бұрын
Agree with that last point.
@xstensl8823
@xstensl8823 4 жыл бұрын
i remember watching this in 1966
@alskndlaskndal
@alskndlaskndal 8 жыл бұрын
Wow! I've been wanting to see this special ever since I found a clip of Brian Wilson doing "Surf's Up". What a great surprise to find it on YT. The whole thing is fascinating. The contrast between Leonard Bernstein, representing the older generation and in some ways the history of Western culture (although he had his own counter-cultural side as well), on a major network, sponsored by a perfect representation of "the Establishment" (General Telephone & Electric, a precursor of Verizon) versus the young kids trying to overturn all of that.
@mickdeleon5072
@mickdeleon5072 8 жыл бұрын
+R.D. Dragon Bernstein was the perfect host for this special, because even though he's a classical conductor he was also a very innovative composer -- West Side Story, for one, is revolutionary; and a few years after this special he composed his Mass in Bb (I think it was Bb), which is remarkable, even controversial, from a classical point of view.
@quasar1490
@quasar1490 9 жыл бұрын
That bit between 31:21 - 31:30 is revelant now more than ever. Best part of the program is watching the mono sound master Brian Wilson on the piano performing his progressive 'Surf's Up' at 45:26.
@fentonhardy8176
@fentonhardy8176 8 жыл бұрын
+Quasar x Surfs Up is probably one of the best pop songs of all time. The songs off Pets Sounds are Amazing too.
@HematomaFalafalPatrol
@HematomaFalafalPatrol 7 жыл бұрын
Yet more confirmation that Frank Zappa was the coolest dude of the 20th century.
@ndmath
@ndmath 9 жыл бұрын
Pretty amazed that Lenny knew Tim Buckley 23:30. I started watching this with thinking 'yeah he will mention The Beatles, Bob Dylan and all that but not somebody like Tim'.
@devint1231
@devint1231 11 жыл бұрын
The Punk movement was the answer to Arena Rock. Bands like Toto, Styx, Foreigner, Little River Band played to audiences of tens of thousands of fans. Most in the audience could not even see the band members. The fan observed the musician from a distance. Punk music, on the other hand, reconnected the artist and the fan. For 2 bucks you could buy a beer at CBGBs, and get spit on by Richard Hell.
@822003
@822003 7 жыл бұрын
Bernstein was so ahead of his time, it's remarkable!!!
@ifyoueverfind78
@ifyoueverfind78 5 жыл бұрын
this shows how innovative and brilliant some of the music of that era actually was...parents who may not of liked it, may have simply not understood it. the music of 1967 blows away anything today, in my opinion...the treasures are left back in time. possibly the older generation didn t get it, nor do young people get it today[?]...it is sitting in time, as a testimony of the brilliance in music of that era.
@walruswasrob
@walruswasrob 5 жыл бұрын
Graham Nash in the final scene in ECHO IN THE CANYON brought me back to here.
@Jameswilliam1982
@Jameswilliam1982 12 жыл бұрын
thanks for uploading! i thought it was gone. love the tim buckley 'war' live version
@critter7052
@critter7052 6 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace brilliant composer, musical genius Leonard Bernstein!
@zazuzazz5419
@zazuzazz5419 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this documentary. It’s poignant and powerful - even more so for be being extant.
@creamaster2010
@creamaster2010 7 жыл бұрын
this is the most fresh stuff ive seen in a long time on youtube
@muchanadziko6378
@muchanadziko6378 3 жыл бұрын
We are doing it with laser beams, not dynamite We are doing it with emotion that are stronger than fists - Jim McGuinn
@Galantski
@Galantski 4 жыл бұрын
Correction, Leonard, it was a string _octet_ on "Eleanor Rigsby" (the string quartet was on "Yesterday").12:28
@IAmisMaster
@IAmisMaster 9 жыл бұрын
7:55 "Pretty Ballerina" = like the best song ever
@CC007
@CC007 10 жыл бұрын
this is truly amazing to watch, thank you for posting this. I wasn't even born yyet, but musically...it kinda hits me at once around 45:09 with Brain Wilson singing "Surf's Up"....amazing. Thank You.
@timothyflyte9443
@timothyflyte9443 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this . This program has been mentioned in more rock n roll books of the era then I can thank of . I remember some of it from the original broadcast but I was only 11 years old and I'm 64 now , so I've been waiting for awhile for a repeat lol. Interesting , today there's no show like this .... interesting to, as Leonard said , this music is for those 8 to 25 lol. Today's " stars " are all to old lol . It's funny 30 year old women shaking their butt , etc. Back in the day we'd be going yuck lol ,old ladies . People nowadays think 30 is young . Back in the day , 30 was the older generation. Lol
@muchanadziko6378
@muchanadziko6378 3 жыл бұрын
just watch 44:13 to 47:49 It's the most beautiful moment of the whole documentary Openheimer speaks sense for once; The shots are pure 60s And then Surf's Up starts playing And it's after a while of the narrator's narration That you realise It's Brian playing And you immerse yourself completely In this absolutely amazing, astonishing, (lovely?), melody And then, you're notblnd You can see How this melody Reflects all the concepts of film And the last thought you feel Is the phrase It's gotta be that way They'll win They'l win! Because we're wrong And we're so wrong...we can't kid ourselves anymore... (...) Wow
@D_Tuned
@D_Tuned 3 жыл бұрын
Leonard loved him some McCartney. 5:24 - Good Day Sunshine 10:27 - Got To Get You Into My Life 12:08 - Penny Lane 12:17 - Eleanor Rigby
@fromthesidelines
@fromthesidelines 9 жыл бұрын
Originally telecast on April 25, 1967 [in the time period occupied by the "CBS NEWS HOUR"- Tuesday, 10pm(et)- right after "PETTICOAT JUNCTION"]. Charles Sopkin described this documentary in his book, "Seven Glorious Days, Seven Fun-Filled Nights". Janis Ian performed "Society's Child" at 15:43....and it became her first "hit record" as a result.
@tonym994
@tonym994 7 жыл бұрын
ZAPPA seems prophetic here. don't remember seeing this before.
@drfortheorlingas
@drfortheorlingas 10 жыл бұрын
Very very interesting documentary. I think it could very well apply to our time. Wonder what he would have thought of rap music!
@budesmatpicu3992
@budesmatpicu3992 7 жыл бұрын
he would probably not even use the word "music"
@edited7382
@edited7382 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately pop music hit its peak around this time, and instead of building on itself and getting progressively better, it just started getting worse and worse and now we have the crap known as pop music today.
@MrBurnthatcandle
@MrBurnthatcandle 11 жыл бұрын
this is truly a powerful program, thank you sincerely for sharing it
@MichaelHansenFUN
@MichaelHansenFUN 12 жыл бұрын
THIS NEEDS TO BE ON DVD!!!
@devint1231
@devint1231 11 жыл бұрын
Agree. The "5 percent" that Leonard Bernstein mentions can be found today, just not in the top 20. Like anything worthwhile, you must search for it.
@MissChristineGTOSOfficial
@MissChristineGTOSOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
Zappa, Vito, Bobby Jameson, Graham Nash, Herman's commentary, Solid bands like The Byrds, Brian Wilson solo and Tim Buckley, solid video of the times.
@MManv84
@MManv84 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this. I will definitely be back to watch this again.
@brit1958ian
@brit1958ian 10 жыл бұрын
No denying that Leonard Bernstein was a musical genius - and perhaps courageous for being supportive of pop music. I'm surprised that he didn't pick up on some nuances that seem more obvious now - for instance the shift to 3/4 in She Said She Said (I think) is meant to represent nostalgia - "When I was a boy" - a memory of times past.
@Andrew-bo8tc
@Andrew-bo8tc 7 жыл бұрын
really fantastic footage, the best music doc Ive seen maybe ever
@rockdirector
@rockdirector 4 жыл бұрын
I remember as if were yesterday, the first tape I asked them to fetch me on my first pilgrimage to the MT&R was this strange and compelling show I had read about. So cool to see it available in the commons, for now at least.
@cuda426hemi
@cuda426hemi 11 жыл бұрын
Priceless. Thank you for posting. Lenny was great. Wish he was here today to speak about the state of "music" today.
@aprokhozhy
@aprokhozhy 7 жыл бұрын
one of the biggest lessons the man gave us was "don't be a dick about it and have an open mind". don't be like this.
@Gildedowlmedia338
@Gildedowlmedia338 Жыл бұрын
He would probably love it
@devint1231
@devint1231 11 жыл бұрын
Very interesting essay about pop music from a classically trained musician: Leonard Bernstein. Note his comment “I dislike 95 percent of pop music.” That leaves 5 percent that appeals to a classicist. Probably as true today as it was 46 years ago. Bernstein is no smarter than the average pop fan, but unlike the average pop fan, has command of a language (melody, harmony, rhythm) and can explain why he likes the 5 percent.
@guciowitomski3825
@guciowitomski3825 4 жыл бұрын
Today it wouldn't be 5%, because of the internet and home studio revolution, when everyone who has a computer or phone can make and upload music. What we end up with is a shit tonne of shit, which completely covers the good parts, buried somewhere.
@oner6206
@oner6206 9 жыл бұрын
The pop music analysis that Chilly Gonzales has been doing lately reminds me strongly of this documentary by the great Bernstein
@MrUsermister
@MrUsermister 7 жыл бұрын
... the show was broadcasted in April 1967. That means his 'knowledge" of modern music was up to date at Revolver (Beatles wise) and Penny/Strawberry single. How would that be interesting, to see a sequel of himself discussing theories and appreciation on Sgt Pepper, Hendrix, Pink Floyd ... just think that in 68 the Nice covered his very own America, and just after great classically influenced pianist like the Emerson, Wakeman, Banks would blossom with their bands into a whole new progressive era. I bet he would be a fan ...
@cabinessenceking
@cabinessenceking 12 жыл бұрын
45:08 - Brian Wilson playing Surf's Up
@SonicWizKid_Kates
@SonicWizKid_Kates 5 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best things on the internet.
@electrojones
@electrojones 7 жыл бұрын
It's very sad to think about what happened to Wilson. The stresses on a sensitive person in the entertainment industry can be incredibly destructive. Years later Wilson was no more than a volleyball with a face painted on it.
@Gary80264
@Gary80264 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this.
@TheFrankybm123
@TheFrankybm123 11 жыл бұрын
The mere fact that kraziipwnage is the second comment never mind in sight at all, makes me lose almost all faith in humanity seeing as how this is a sublime and intelligent diagnosis of pop music, still completely relevant and sadly marks the last time since 1967 in which humanity could have easily arousen out of its deep, dark slumber and began our ascend to a higher plane of knowledege and civilazation as a whole. sad stuff indeed but wheres theres a spark could be a fire.
@MarioEsposito91
@MarioEsposito91 7 жыл бұрын
this is such a precious piece!
@lupcokotevski2907
@lupcokotevski2907 7 жыл бұрын
Hendrix didn't enter American music consciousness in a big way until his performance at Monterey Pop in July, 1967 - before that he'd made a big name for himself in the UK. Fantastic to see a young Janis Ian. Bernstein was also an admirer of the Bronx pop genius Laura Nyro. Nyro and Ian both attended the Manhattan High School of Art and Music for gifted kids. Nyro also performed an Monterey Pop, only her 2nd public performance aged 19.
@amhay
@amhay 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for uploading this one.It was fascinating, and in itself an historic event.
@gwgoldb
@gwgoldb 12 жыл бұрын
The person Bernstein is talking to at the beginning is Tandyn Almer, who died in early January, 2013
@orbisonfan1
@orbisonfan1 11 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Thank you for sharing.
@alexkije
@alexkije 7 жыл бұрын
This was during a great, but now gone, pop music era.
@maurogajardo620
@maurogajardo620 11 жыл бұрын
Revolver`-Pet sounds-Highway 61 revisited-Are you experienced-The Doors debut-Forever changes-Something else by the Kinks-The who sell out-Disraely gears-Freak out¡ my favourites of that period
@tonym994
@tonym994 7 жыл бұрын
when I hear LB recite lyrics to 'Paperback writer' I can't help but think of Chuck Berry ,who Lennon said was greatly responsible for the poetry of himself as well as Dylan and many others.BTW, 'got to get you into my life' by Paul, was about reefer also.
@markogden1992
@markogden1992 9 жыл бұрын
Great fun, and it's wonderful that this is available on KZbin but, with all the effort made to produce this documentary, it's incredible that Janis Ian is brought in to lip-synch "Society's Child" while Bernstein plays it on tape.
@mickdeleon5072
@mickdeleon5072 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark Ogden I think she sang and played live to a pre-recorded background track.
@dongiller
@dongiller 8 жыл бұрын
To be clear, this documentary was split in two halves: the first was Bernstein's presentation; the second was David Oppenheim's, which included at the end Brian Wilson's performance. And it's Oppenhein's voice that we hear when describing Brian's "Surf's Up." Over the years, Bernstein had been repeatedly misattributed here, but he had utterly nothing to do with the Oppenheim's second half.
@punkpoetry
@punkpoetry 7 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely unmistakable tbh. The first half has brilliant observations about the actual songs, the second half predictable old man moralizing
@justincope82
@justincope82 6 жыл бұрын
Do you know of any published sources that attribute the Surf's Up narration to Oppenheim? I've been trying to track one down, but haven't found anything. There's some discussion on the Wikipedia talk page, where one user claims that though Oppenheim narrates the second half, the Surf's Up narration is Bernstein's voice again. But another user is pretty sure it's Oppenheim's voice. I haven't done a thorough enough comparison to have a strong opinion of my own. Would be nice if there were a reliable source to cite there. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Surf's_Up_(song)
@albertnortononymous9020
@albertnortononymous9020 5 жыл бұрын
They sound so much alike tho.
@bigsby1
@bigsby1 4 жыл бұрын
@@justincope82 It's absolutely Oppenheim narrating over Surf's Up. It's the exact same voice as everything else in the second half, and really doesn't sound much like Bernstein if you listen to both.
@brtherjohn
@brtherjohn 12 жыл бұрын
Especially the 'Revolver' album (and the the latest Penny Lane single). Sgt. Pepper had not been released just yet - just two months away! Later on Bernstein would use more Beatles samples - and from Sgt. Pepper - in his televised Young People's Concerts. A Day in the Life, comes to mind...
@daleturner
@daleturner 11 жыл бұрын
LEONARD BERNSTEIN (comment still holds up, to this day): "I think this music has something terribly important to tell us, as adults, and we would be wise not to behave like ostriches about it. Besides, as I said, I like it. Of course, what I like is maybe 5% of the whole output, which pours over this country like the two oceans from both coasts. And it's mostly trash. But that good 5% is so exciting and vital--and, may I say, significant--that it claims the attention of every thinking person."
@Soytu19
@Soytu19 8 жыл бұрын
He is just focusing in the music, but the importance of this pop music is that there are also lyrics. It's unfair to say that this music is rubbish, as long as it expresses something and has passion it is never rubbish. And if we think about it, as much as it is a less sophisticated music than the "classical music" it will always express more. And what is more, i really think that the famous "classical music" and musicians have a lot to learn from the pop music and it's freedom and power of expression, and especially it's closeness and sympathy toward the listener. It's amazing how people use the music as a way of expressing things that are almost "prohibited" (not talking about the government nor shits like that) to express throught the spoken or common language, and that's the importance of music either sung or not sung. The pop music and the sung music show us what the music as a whole is all about.
@IgnacioClerici-mp5cy
@IgnacioClerici-mp5cy 4 жыл бұрын
Music has nothing to do with words
@mj99a
@mj99a 9 жыл бұрын
berstein doesn't mention that the music as a final product wasn't created from whole cloth by "the kids". the songs/albums were team efforts that included the cream of the crop of the "establisment" engineers/song writers/ producers. (george martin, shadow morton, ect. took good songs and made them "hit records". many of the facets that LB mentions are less song writing techniques than production/engineering techniques. of the musicians in the doc brian wilson was the only person who truly composed/produced his own works from beginning to end. michael brown, b.wilson, and j.ian all came from very traditional musical families, with parents who were highly competent musicians/composers/producers and passed on those skills. without tradition there could have been no "revolution"...
@bbhoody4868
@bbhoody4868 7 жыл бұрын
Great point
@Justinwhat1
@Justinwhat1 7 жыл бұрын
mj99a that's awesome
@aprokhozhy
@aprokhozhy 7 жыл бұрын
classical music also has genres, m8. like, a lot :)
@IanTheCameraGuy
@IanTheCameraGuy 10 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why music genres have to be so separated. Why can't rock, jazz, rap or any other genre be looked at as serious works just like classical music? Genre shouldn't even exist at all, or at least not in the way it does today. The way it works today is basically "pick a genre and stick with it". You don't see Classical composers writing rock or vis versa. There are so many geniuses in almost every genre of music and maybe if people would actually step outside of their comfort zone and listen to different music, they would see that good music is good music no matter how it's rendered. There are many pop musicians (pop meaning pretty much anything that isn't classical) who I would rank with Mozart, Beethoven, Wagner, Mahler and so many other classical geniuses, so why do we have to separate them? If anyone is reading this, I challenge you to listen to a genre that you "don't like". Not just one piece but a whole album, and really listen to it and just accept that it's not going to be the same as the music you usually listen to. If you listen to it enough, then you'll learn to like it, I guarantee.
@Kris-ie3vu
@Kris-ie3vu 10 жыл бұрын
I am a pro classical musician in San Francisco, and in my experience most other orchestra players listen to pop and jazz. So I can appreciate both worlds, but the big split happens on a few levels. One is the difference in brain power/training required to create a piece, a symphony can take a few years to a lifetime and can really be a masterpiece (and all of the detail), pop songs can be written in a few minutes or improvised on the spot. Much of classical music has a nonspecific narrative, allowing listeners to bring their own experiences and imagination to a concert. Pop music often has lyrics and an artist telling you what to think and leaves little room for conceptual listening, after a few listens there aren't any more new levels or details to the song. The marketing is very different for the two, classical music doesn't lend itself to visual representation like pop can. I would say that the biggest difference between is how much concentration the audience can maintain, and that is why there is such a large divide. I need to have complex music to stay mentally stimulated, and some people prefer the same measure of music repeated 100 times.
@IanTheCameraGuy
@IanTheCameraGuy 10 жыл бұрын
Kristopher King There is some definitive truth to what you're saying about complexity and all that. There are only a few pop songs that really live up to the level of complexity as most orchestral music, (such as Bohemian Rhapsody) but I just think we should start excepting the style of other genres and not necessarily the music of said genres. For example, Dubstep has a lot of garbage in it, but if you were to take the style and ideas of the genre and form an actual piece, I think it would be quite good. I also think that by introducing complexity to popular genres, people won't be as scared of Orchestral music.
@jeffreyslott3883
@jeffreyslott3883 10 жыл бұрын
***** Different types of music provide different types of "nourishment" for people. Some provide a physical-like sustenance which feeds and stimulates the body into dancing; others provide an emotional nourishment or they provide an intellectual (or academic) nourishment. There are recordings that provide a combination of two or more of the above. For me, rock music provides mostly an emotional nourishment (with some intellectual thrown in) so I can listen to the same music over and over again and not get bored with it; in the same way that I can eat a peanut butter sandwich daily and not get tired of it. However, if one is basically looking for academic stimulation then I guess complexity for the sheer sake of itself would be the main purpose of listening to those types of music made to accommodate such. I have no problem with labels or genres; as long as one does not try to evaluate negatively, and out of hand, any particular label. After all, sometimes you feel like munching an apple and sometimes an orange. Neither one is "better". But if you ask for one and someone brings you the other, you're not going to be very happy.
@karlakor
@karlakor 10 жыл бұрын
Most rock and popular music cannot be taken as seriously as so-called "classical" music because it is so limited in terms of its harmonic structure, tonal relationships, dynamics, articulations, instrumentation, etc. And believe me, there are NO pop musicians who rank with Mozart, Beethoven, and the others you named. People who believe this do not realize what they are saying. Mozart and Beethoven, for example, produced masterpieces in nearly every genre of instrumental and vocal music. They scored symphonies and operas for full orchestras, not just for a few guitars and drums, as pop musicians do. Their works are played and studied all over the world, centuries after they were composed, and for good reason. As for listening to music that I "don't like", one need not even make an effort in that direction. Society is bombarded with music everywhere nowadays. It is nearly impossible to avoid. I, on the other hand, challenge those who listen solely to popular music to listen to the works of the greatest composers, and if people find them boring, it is only because they challenge these listeners beyond their "comfort zone".
@IanTheCameraGuy
@IanTheCameraGuy 10 жыл бұрын
karlakor You have to understand that when i refer to "pop musicians", I just mean anyone who doesn't write orchestral music. I know that actual pop music is lazy and uninspired and only written to make money. What I'm saying is that there are plenty of non orchestral composers that are just as talented as some of the most well known orchestral ones. Especially in the Jazz and Rock world. I also really don't think it's fair to put down pop musicians who write for small ensembles. Are Chopin's piano works of lesser value because they're not scored for a full orchestra? What about Bach's Brandenburg concertos? The quality of music is not diminished by the size of the ensemble. Do you honestly think that bands like The Beatles, Queen, and Pink Floyd are not comparable at all to the "classical geniuses"? Their music is just as smart and just as complex as any orchestral work, it's just different. Most metal bands actually know music theory, and a lot of metal bands sound very reminiscent of the late romantic composers. Mainly Wagner comes to mind. I think that you have to stop being so closed minded because music taste does not lie in genre.
@unemployablegraduate
@unemployablegraduate 5 жыл бұрын
'For a long time now I've been fascinated by this strange and compelling scene called 'pop music'. It's completely of, by and for middle-aged people and their parents, people who remember a time before Hip Hop, Rap, R'n'B, Dubstep, Grime and Trap.'
@1Ma9iN8tive
@1Ma9iN8tive 7 жыл бұрын
R. I. P Chuck Berry 1933 - 2017
@danielwilson8274
@danielwilson8274 2 жыл бұрын
I heard about it but didn't see it back then, though I was told good things about Janis Ian's performance and that Brian performed Surf's Up. I'm old now and I cringe at some of the things I said, "right on!" to back then. I hope that you who are now in your twenties will find your voice too.
@GTVgokbotsofficiella
@GTVgokbotsofficiella 12 жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC!
@n0tyham
@n0tyham 11 жыл бұрын
Sgt. Pepper is NOT overrated. For it's time, it pushed the boundary of rock music style, structure and composition. The Pet Sounds analogy is ludicrous. Paul has said they weren't trying to mimic the Beach Boy's album, but were just expanding their own range of composition, coming from a different musical point of view. Also, remember that record companies often demand an artist make their next output conform to some other trendy work. For instance, Elenore Rigby and then Ruby Tuesday.
@NolalanD
@NolalanD 11 жыл бұрын
vito paulekas, bobby jameson, tandyn almer, frank zappa, jim mcguinn, brian wilson, graham nash, they're all here
@rzu7120
@rzu7120 4 жыл бұрын
Dylan’s Mr. Jones was referring to the executives at Columbia records, not people in general.
@richardwilsonavena
@richardwilsonavena 12 жыл бұрын
yes please releaseon DVD!!!!!
@lejoe48
@lejoe48 5 жыл бұрын
Justo el mejor momento del pop en toda su historia.
@bsdml
@bsdml 10 жыл бұрын
This is such an interesting show, especially for its time! Leonard Bernstein is such an earnest soul, always searching and reaching out beyond his conservatory-trained background to embrace other forms of musical expression, particularly Jazz and Rock. Back in early 1967, not many of his colleagues would have been aboard for any of this, but HE was. It is easy, in retrospect, to criticize the occasional naive opinion, or glaring ommision (somebody remarked that Lenny could have found a better example of "raw Blues feel" than Tommy James & the Shondells, and that goes without saying). I would even add that this show could have been much better if they had simply waited a year or so to put it together, when many of the artists from the (at the time) upcoming Monterey Pop festival would then become much more well known (Hello Jimi Hendrix, Jefferson Airplane, Otis Redding, Simon & Garfunkel, etc.). Still, there's so much to admire here, and Janis Ian and Brian Wilson, among others, turn in fantastic performances. And of course, many of Bernstein's personal favorite Pop songs have proven to be lasting classics. Props to drksrfr for posting this film.
@alskndlaskndal
@alskndlaskndal 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Paull It's amazing how quickly music was evolving at that time. It really would have been very different just a year or so later. His example of the sound of amplified guitars was some barely distorted Vox amps. Sounds pretty tame compared to Hendrix's screaming Marshalls, or something like Deep Purple, which was still to come.
@Flowmotion1000
@Flowmotion1000 9 жыл бұрын
I would have been interested to hear what Bernstein would have made of Frank Zappa, Captain Beefhart, The Holy Modal Rounders or The Fugs - I think they would of perhaps evaded his line of musical enquiry.
@mschaffel
@mschaffel 9 жыл бұрын
+Emlyn Williams Disagree. Zappa was closer to Bernstein than not. He would have given Bernstein a wink and a nod.
@Flowmotion1000
@Flowmotion1000 9 жыл бұрын
+The Speedboy Float Company Well, at that point, pre Uncle Meat, FZ was of the ugly oeuvre and had probably only released Freak Out and Absolutely Free - I can't imagine Bernstein really digging Help I'm a Rock or Status Back Baby, although he might have been mildly amused by Brown Shoes Don't Make it. But I was referring more generally to the mid sixties of psychedelia and experimentalism where melody and form were pretty low down on the priority list. I love Bernstein but he was probably like my old music teacher who could see merit and craft in, say, Good Vibrations, at a stretch, but would probably have trouble understanding what anyone could like about the likes of Sister Ray, It Can't Happen Here or Voices Green and Purple.
@mschaffel
@mschaffel 9 жыл бұрын
His opinion would be the same as his opinion of the early 20th century French avant garde which included Saties experiments with "amplified puddles" and other Dadaistic insanities which were pointed rejections of the then dying and bloated Romantic movement. Bernstein though this period ridiculous but understandably necessary to keep the musical art moving forward. In that sense, he would get it.....not like it - but dig the intent and purpose.
@Flowmotion1000
@Flowmotion1000 9 жыл бұрын
+The Speedboy Float Company Yes, you're probably right, about him. But those early 20th century experiments were more intellectual and contextual exercises, whereas the mid sixties experimentation was about altered states, mesmeric rhythms, collage, energy, humour, generational politics and liberation, which eluded any traditional musical analysis - you were either submerged in it or not at all.
@TheCoolStalin
@TheCoolStalin 5 жыл бұрын
i just fucking new that fucking pompous pedantic fucker would hate Satie
@DreamWolfPics
@DreamWolfPics 5 жыл бұрын
This should be remastered and released on blu ray.
@moxie96
@moxie96 5 жыл бұрын
they do not do that enough with tv news archives, plus it is technology that not many know how to restore. They are not on anything like Beta or Vhs tapes even though it is sometimes earlier form of videotape which are huge and film wheels
@garyhunt8067
@garyhunt8067 3 жыл бұрын
I always admired Bernstein.
@ScribblyPoppo
@ScribblyPoppo 7 жыл бұрын
I'm right here to stay When I'm old and gray I'll be right in my prime Living in the sunlight Loving in the moonlight Having a wonderful time
@christopherfreud5894
@christopherfreud5894 4 жыл бұрын
Like Bernstein, Everyone should listen to the youngsters : they know! They just know!
@devint1231
@devint1231 11 жыл бұрын
Pop music was taken back from record companies with the proliferation of digital recording. No longer do you need a studio with tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment to record an EP. All that you need is 2 microphones and a DAT. You can mix on you PC. There is a proliferation of independent music available in MP3 format only. Big money promotion is a different story.
@JoeyEdwins-gy2rf
@JoeyEdwins-gy2rf 10 ай бұрын
Very good music documentary thanks😂
@patricialambert3110
@patricialambert3110 5 жыл бұрын
Boy, this is real insight--almost "ground zero: for exposing the "hippie counterculture" to America, most of whom never saw a man with hair down to their shoulders. The most revealing thing to me is these were "kids entertaining kids". Unlike today, where most pop stars are almost old enough to be parents of their audience, you had teens listening to people who were at least close to their own age back in the mid 60s
@WayneKitching
@WayneKitching 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and even where you have kids entertaining kids today, the songs are written by older people.
@KieroUnasBotasAGoGo
@KieroUnasBotasAGoGo 5 жыл бұрын
Where i can find the final clip of The Hollies singing to Dylan's The Times They Are-aChangin please need it FULL version
@guciowitomski3825
@guciowitomski3825 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how is it possible that this document focuses so much on Herman's Hermits It's like doing a documentary about 21st century's underground punk scene and focusing on Taylor Swift or something
@jillrobinson6908
@jillrobinson6908 11 жыл бұрын
35:34 - the great Graham Nash has never really changed ....
@rockdirector
@rockdirector 4 жыл бұрын
From being a pompous twat?
@burmansmith3944
@burmansmith3944 11 жыл бұрын
at the time, no prog, no fusion, no metal, no nostalgia for the 50s or earlier, no punk, disco or inundations of sentitive singer songwriters, Monterey and the summer of love were 2 months away Manson had just been released from prison . Things were in their glorious, historical infancy but Brian Wilson , my God was stunning here. !
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