Dropping The Ball: Dragon Ball Z’s DEPRESSING 30th Anniversary Set + Its FULL History on Home Video

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@SoupSonic705
@SoupSonic705 4 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why most dbz clips online are from the Orange Bricks is probably because the colors are SO over saturated, the copyright ID possiblity has trouble recognizing the footage (and I know this myself) I've uploaded clips from orange bricks one or two times, and they got copyrighted for the Faulcorner music, not the footage. So I tried to upload a Dragon Box clip, and Boom.. insta copyright block.
@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்
@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao imagine fucking up the image quality so bad the copyright system doesn't even recognize it XD
@Fusion991
@Fusion991 2 жыл бұрын
That's simply not correct but a good observation.
@TurtleCraftZ1
@TurtleCraftZ1 2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty funny, it's probably not why most clips are from the bricks though Copyright protection online was a totally different game 10-15 years ago, older uploads probably wouldn't have even been targeted by copyright claims because companies just didn't have ways of doing things about it just yet. You used to be able to find full episode uploads on KZbin, lol
@walterwhite4398
@walterwhite4398 2 жыл бұрын
@@TurtleCraftZ1 i mean we got the entire 2 hours of tournament of power on youtube and it still hasn't been taken down
@TurtleCraftZ1
@TurtleCraftZ1 2 жыл бұрын
@@walterwhite4398 The entire tournament is way more than 2 hours, cutting it down to the actual runtime of the tournament in-universe is transformative
@itspaidrealestate4096
@itspaidrealestate4096 2 жыл бұрын
TFS:”Please support the official release” The official release:
@RayenZYT
@RayenZYT 2 жыл бұрын
i dont get it
@SilveeYT
@SilveeYT 2 жыл бұрын
​@@RayenZYT, the joke they're making is how Team Four Star (TFS) suggests we support the official release, yet this is how Toei and Funimation treats the "official release." It's better off to support Dragon Ball Z Abridged (DBZA) than the original show. 😆
@ShiningTaiga
@ShiningTaiga 2 жыл бұрын
@@SilveeYT i’d rather support the Singaporean dub over TFS
@DaxSchaffer
@DaxSchaffer 2 жыл бұрын
I like to think Ghost Nappa was actually the one responsible for all these terrible re-releases. Like, he just kept bugging someone at Funimation while saying it would make them all rich.
@SilveeYT
@SilveeYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShiningTaiga, I feel that, absolutely. There are many things wrong with the DBZA dub I don't think the fandom is willing to admit it, mostly because of the nostalgia they feel about it, which is understandable for them.
@bionicleanime
@bionicleanime Жыл бұрын
4:15 Original Releases 8:08 Ultimate Uncut Set 11:06 Dragon Boxes (Japan) 12:54 Ultimate Box Unfinished 13:48 Orange Season Sets 25:35 Dragon Boxes (America) 27:46 Kai 30:29 Level Sets 33:29 Home Release Breakdown 37:30 Oversaturation 38:59 Blu-ray Season Sets 44:04 30th Anniversary Set 55:47 Message to Funimation In conclusion, back in the day Funimation REALLY should have just finished the Uncut sets first to see how well they would be received. After that, negotiate with Toei to bring over the Dragon Sets instead of creating the Orange Bricks. It would have made them much more money and please fans everywhere. Take a break while Kai was running THEN bring out the Level Sets to give DBZ the respect it deserves. Too bad that isn't the world we live in.
@HeroTheHedgehog999
@HeroTheHedgehog999 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree with this to be honest. Dragon Ball fans are just done dirty these days.
@unkono
@unkono 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like Funimation wanted to make as much money as possible as fast as possible.
@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734
@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 7 ай бұрын
And that’s why they’re finally dead…
@gavintheg.o.a.t2001
@gavintheg.o.a.t2001 4 ай бұрын
Or better yet, after the disastrous release & negative reviews of the Orange Bricks, Funimation is gonna be like “Don’t worry guys, we’re gonna make it up to you” and release the Level Sets instead of the Dragon Boxes, taking 2 years to make it and at last release it
@harveyplissken4604
@harveyplissken4604 4 жыл бұрын
With the entire original broadcast audio for all 508 episodes of the complete Dragon Ball saga finally being leaked online by dedicated fans, it's very possible that maybe there won't be any need for us to wait for Funimation to release their ultimate sets. You know how Star Wars fans often sell and buy physical Blu-Ray copies of Harmy's Despecialized Editions on places like Ebay and Etsy? I think that approach can work well for the Dragon Ball community. I understand that piracy and bootleg media can be a touchy subject to some, but sometimes you just get sick of waiting for these companies to get their shit together. I'm even more excited about the prospect of fan-made Blu-Ray Dragon Boxes for Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball GT (DB and GT especially, since those two have never been released on Blu-Ray). When that happens, I don't think I will ever buy another Dragon Ball release from Funimation again for as long as I live.
@RAG3Xbox
@RAG3Xbox 4 жыл бұрын
Shit when that happens hmu and mail it to me. But for now torrents with broadcast audio will have to do
@EnigmaBarry
@EnigmaBarry 4 жыл бұрын
"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem," he said. "If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable." ~ Gabe Newell, CEO and founder of Valve talking about Steam to Escapist Magazine. Edit: It's from "The Cambridge Student", but Escapist Magazine reported on it.
@Outta-hz1ej
@Outta-hz1ej 3 жыл бұрын
nyaa dot si, baby!
@andrewk7800
@andrewk7800 2 жыл бұрын
It's a no Brainer that funimation should have done a dragon box blu ray but here we are. Would love to see any fan edits or masters of dbz!
@polocatfan
@polocatfan 2 жыл бұрын
nah Dragon Ball is one of the few series where almost everyone involved with its creation (besides Toriyama) suck. Toei has been false flagging videos on youtube in underhanded ways that even got youtube mad. funimation just sucks in general. crunchyroll is crunchyroll. piracy is 100% morally correct here even if there was an amazing home release.
@TheTraveller777
@TheTraveller777 4 жыл бұрын
Companies like Funimation need to look at the bigger picture and realize doing multiple "Remasterings" is costing money. Just do it right once and re-package the same material every few years. But I guess they have to actually care as well. The company that releases the Pokemon series here in Australia does just this, maybe once a year or so they refresh the packaging, or put out a deluxe set with the same disks. They continue to sell.
@blizzy2604
@blizzy2604 3 жыл бұрын
Would you be talking about Beyond who distributes Pokemon in Australia? They also did this with their Nickelodeon releases.
@TheTraveller777
@TheTraveller777 3 жыл бұрын
@@blizzy2604 Yeah Beyond. Every year or so they redo the marketing and art or change the cases on the Pokemon DVDs. Sometimes doing a special edition collection as well, plus they used to have some sampler type sets with some collected episodes.
@FourteenthAngel
@FourteenthAngel 3 жыл бұрын
The reason why they keep releasing the series every couple of years is because they know people will buy them regardless. The orange bricks ever after all these years still sell in spite of their quality simply because it is most easily accessible version the series.
@nerdking1019
@nerdking1019 3 жыл бұрын
Also I don’t buy DVD’s anymore. Streaming and downloads from iTunes
@nerdking1019
@nerdking1019 3 жыл бұрын
@@FourteenthAngel it’d be nice to see them re released other series
@punkco990
@punkco990 4 жыл бұрын
Rip old video, well not really dead but in view purgatory. I’m glad you uploaded it again.
@nbk2164
@nbk2164 4 жыл бұрын
it’s so sad that the level sets got cancelled. that by far would’ve been the best way to watch DBZ in NA
@craigime
@craigime 3 жыл бұрын
right... i don't why they didn't just wait and continue with the level sets instead of the 30th anniversary edition
@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்
@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக் 2 жыл бұрын
NA? more like the world! Kai Blu Ray colours are very weird and it just gets rid of most of the grain.
@freezasama5802
@freezasama5802 2 жыл бұрын
they oversaturated the market they realised look we have all these products we should release them in one go instead of waiting year by year which destroyed the project entirely such a shame they don't know how to handle DVD sets at all
@teedeeproductions
@teedeeproductions 2 жыл бұрын
The problem was that it released at the wrong time, it could’ve been the best way to watch it. I hope one day they get around to it again.
@saiyanlives9872
@saiyanlives9872 2 жыл бұрын
@@craigime the level sets was very expansive to make if they did that the set wouldnt be 349,99 but yeah i wish they bring them back too or dragon boxes on blu ray
@MDLuffy1234YT
@MDLuffy1234YT 3 жыл бұрын
The series premiere of DBZ Kai on Nicktoons was the first anime I ever watched. I genuinely shat my pants in excitement when raditz grabbed the farmer's bullet right out of the air while it was going full speed and flicked it back at him at the same speed. I know for a fact that a feeling like that will never ever occur in my life ever again.
@djrancho2232
@djrancho2232 3 жыл бұрын
which premiere vortex?
@AKUNJIG
@AKUNJIG 2 жыл бұрын
Damn! You made me feel old. The first scene I remember from DBZ was when Yamcha was killed by the Sibermen in the 90s. This was the Ocean Dub where they didn't show dead bodies so his body was edited out, but showed how heavy the tension was on the show.
@charles67198
@charles67198 2 жыл бұрын
it was the dbz Kai release that got me invested in anime back in middle school, it caused me to actually look up the whole series and fallow the story, I've been hooked on anime ever since, super is absolute trash
@kazi1
@kazi1 Жыл бұрын
@@charles67198same
@LordMalice6d9
@LordMalice6d9 Жыл бұрын
@@AKUNJIG One of my earliest memories of DBZ was Androids 16, 17 and 18 driving around in a van stealing clothes and getting into road rages with biker gang in the early 2000's! Lol.
@nicogonzalez7860
@nicogonzalez7860 2 жыл бұрын
It has been bugging me because I couldn’t figure out why Sean Schemmel sounded so much better in the Saiyan Arc and then at some point after arriving in Namek, he sounded new to the roll. Now I know why haha.
@HistoryandReviews
@HistoryandReviews 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@asherzerbib3461
@asherzerbib3461 Жыл бұрын
They wanted Sean to redub his characters as well (at least in the Ginyu Saga) but he wasn’t available being too busy in New York at the time. Probably played a part in why redubbing became less and less common as the sets went on until it just stopped altogether by the final ones except for Ox King and the Narrator (and he was stopped after "Season 6" himself).
@JORDANLEWISFILM
@JORDANLEWISFILM Жыл бұрын
Yeah that transition is terrible
@thefilmwatcher1302
@thefilmwatcher1302 3 ай бұрын
This is why original broadcast Z is the only way it’s watchable. The two seasons Ocean voiced, then ORIGINAL Season 3, not remastered, then that all the way till the end. Then again, I’m not sure the common DB fan today knows that the Ocean dub was FUNi’s production in the first place.
@hrnbrigade4991
@hrnbrigade4991 4 жыл бұрын
*IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE* is almost a sick joke. This was a comment on the original video.
@matthewhamilton2913
@matthewhamilton2913 3 жыл бұрын
What was
@SEGbruhproductions
@SEGbruhproductions Жыл бұрын
Okay so update: The orange bricks somehow are still in stores (don't know how) The Blu Ray Season sets are walmart exclusives now with 3 season box sets Crunchyroll is now releasing Walmart exclusive DragonBall Super season box sets And Crunchyroll also released an entire new complete set of super Another update: Crunchyroll is re-releasing DragonBallZ yet again It's happening again, 2011 all over again..
@blakewilliams5627
@blakewilliams5627 4 жыл бұрын
The one thing I don’t understand is, Funimation should still have the 4:3 masters from the original 3 episodes per dvd release, so why don’t they just put those in a box set to make 4:3 fans happy until a 1080p-4K remasters is cheap enough to do. It’s literally the least Funimation could do to somewhat satisfy American dbz fans.
@John_Smith77
@John_Smith77 4 жыл бұрын
If they do that, then they won’t be able to continually squeeze every penny they can out of you whenever they decide to release a new shitty version of a tv show held near & dear to the hearts of a bunch of dumb, gullible dorks with plenty of disposable income.
@ToastyMann
@ToastyMann 2 жыл бұрын
They could also try to get the HD masters Toei has. I've heard the Japanese Blu-Rays look pretty good, and at one point DBZ was on Netflix in Japan, so I used a VPN to watch it and it looked great! I don't get why Funimation doesn't try to get these prints from Toei, and if they already tried idk why Toei didn't just give it to them.
@forza8719
@forza8719 2 жыл бұрын
@@John_Smith77 exactly.
@iwbaracker
@iwbaracker 4 жыл бұрын
Hopefully in the future we can get a perfect release. Frame-by-frame remaster and color corrected Japanese broadcast audio Dragon Box Style Packaging and Extras Hot-swappable between languages and manga-accurate subtitles Optional scores for different fans (Falconer-Kikuchi etc)
@harveyplissken4604
@harveyplissken4604 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know about that. With the entire broadcast audio being leaked online recently, perhaps there might not be any need for us to wait for Funimation and/or Toei to make the perfect set. If the Star Wars fandom is able to restore the theatrical cuts of the original trilogy and give us the option to either download them digitally or buy physical Blu-Ray copies of them, what exactly is stopping the Dragon Ball community from doing the exact same thing with the entire 508 episode original run of Dragon Ball?
@iwbaracker
@iwbaracker 4 жыл бұрын
Harvey Plissken I guess your right
@pjjulian5243
@pjjulian5243 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck that aint happening!!!
@Gilby1385
@Gilby1385 4 жыл бұрын
And most importantly, the edited Ocean/Saban dubs and the alternate Westwood dubs!
@iwbaracker
@iwbaracker 4 жыл бұрын
@@pjjulian5243 LMAO
@jeremydrew1227
@jeremydrew1227 2 жыл бұрын
That redubbed of the Ocean episodes explains why the voice actors of Funimation sound far better then when we first heard them in the Ginyu saga going forward. Christopher Sabot as Vegeta has the most noticable difference. As he matured with the character his voice got deeper and smoother compared to when he first voiced Vegeta.
@wompastompa3692
@wompastompa3692 4 жыл бұрын
TFW pirating a rip of the JP release from the mid 2000s and pairing it with a set of fan made subtitle files is currently a better option than any of the legal ways of getting the show in NA.
@ladyinwight
@ladyinwight 4 жыл бұрын
the best way to prevent piracy is to make sure the product you're selling is actually good. funimation (and many other companies for that matter) don't seem to understand that. and some of the companies that do sell good products only have like $300 collectors edition blu-rays instead of also selling normal ones (see devilman crybaby and eizouken blu-rays)
@viewtifulboy
@viewtifulboy 2 жыл бұрын
I like DBZ Kai. I don't like a lot of the filler and consider that they were able to re-do the English dub when the original had a bad tendency to go off-script, resulting in mocking memes. It's censored a little bit, but barely. It still has decapitations, bisections and Trunks cutting Frieza into sushi.
@kaijudirector5336
@kaijudirector5336 2 жыл бұрын
And bad language. We still get “hell”, “damn”, and “bastard”!
@itsjay7235
@itsjay7235 2 жыл бұрын
Its because most people still believe that Kai is completely censored all because of nicktoons
@Ninja-3040-Q
@Ninja-3040-Q 23 күн бұрын
@@kaijudirector5336 No thats not true kai has 2 versions the uncut and the Nicktoon The uncut vesion does not have cencorship
@-bemyvalentine-
@-bemyvalentine- 2 жыл бұрын
The Level Set shit was just so damn depressing, but as sad as it is it's a very good example of what can happen when a market is oversaturated.
@newman476
@newman476 2 жыл бұрын
Even as a Kai apologist, the fact that the highest quality sets for Z are cut-down is very disappointing. I’d love to own all of original Z on home media. I just wish it actually had a decent release…
@ashsg4198
@ashsg4198 4 жыл бұрын
Well seems like it's a pirate's life for me
@ismailkeskinklc5300
@ismailkeskinklc5300 3 жыл бұрын
Yaaaaaaarrr
@shwingcrimson8202
@shwingcrimson8202 3 жыл бұрын
YAARRRRRR!!!
@hellodigitalworld8224
@hellodigitalworld8224 3 жыл бұрын
I am downloading the dragon box right now
@thecoolluka9558
@thecoolluka9558 3 жыл бұрын
@@hellodigitalworld8224 link?
@hellodigitalworld8224
@hellodigitalworld8224 3 жыл бұрын
@@thecoolluka9558 nyaa.si/view/1250852 I advise you to download the levels sets for the first 1-39 episodes
@johnathangoncalo4971
@johnathangoncalo4971 Ай бұрын
The guy is forgetting that the series starts with Dragonball. Any new fan would have to start from the very beginning, not the fight with Raditz. I understand that this video is about Z, but still. It's a shame that Z blew up in North America first. OG Dragonball is severely underrated.
@MaSTARMedia
@MaSTARMedia 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of research put in this video! KZbin kept recommending it to me until I finally clicked it and I'm glad I did. If only we could get a legendary 4:3 source footage, broadcast audio release. Maybe one day, but I doubt it since Toei doesn't really seem to give a shit. Anyway thanks for the video, I actually learned a lot. Hope you keep making content this good and grow!
@NASALunarLight
@NASALunarLight 4 жыл бұрын
:O it’s MaStar Media :O
@ayerooown
@ayerooown 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit its the guy who traces animation because he cant draw shit
@The_Blue_Otaku
@The_Blue_Otaku 3 жыл бұрын
At least DBZ is on BluRay not like the original Dragon Ball scries that hasn't hit any form of BluRay and the last time Original Dragon Ball hit the market it was in 2009 on DVD only
@Guntshot
@Guntshot 3 жыл бұрын
go trace loser
@Auvisome
@Auvisome 3 жыл бұрын
Shut up
@bodytrick
@bodytrick 2 жыл бұрын
The blu "level sets" looked really good, I bought both when they came out and was really confused why they canceled the series. Glad I held onto the Dragon Boxes.
@AD-ur1fk
@AD-ur1fk 2 жыл бұрын
Does the dragon box have the English dub and music? Or only Japanese
@RackerTheRascalMashup
@RackerTheRascalMashup 2 жыл бұрын
@@AD-ur1fk Original Dragon Boxes only japanese, DBB rerelease in America feature both
@treebotreviews
@treebotreviews 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm that the orange bricks are STILL on shelves at Walmart. Seasons 1-4 are available in bundlesand that's it.
@unkono
@unkono 2 жыл бұрын
I saw them in 2021
@paperluigi6132
@paperluigi6132 Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen them there almost everytime I go to that section of Walmart.
@jakighcolburnchannel3584
@jakighcolburnchannel3584 Жыл бұрын
Not only that. They decided it was a good idea to repackage the widescreen blu rays into bundle sets despite the more recent 30th anniversary/steelbook releases being a thing and just using those.
@treebotreviews
@treebotreviews Жыл бұрын
@@jakighcolburnchannel3584 the widescreens aren’t terrible but they could be better.
@treebotreviews
@treebotreviews Жыл бұрын
@@jakighcolburnchannel3584 HOWEVER. I still think the best way to get the series now is uncut Kai.
@EnigmaBarry
@EnigmaBarry 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh, DMCA Abuse. Anyone remember when Toei striked themselves? It killed their own channel. Good times. Great video Tony! Glad to see it's reuploaded. Anyway, I want to point out. This video was made April 30, 2019. The 30th Anniversary Set was released in November 2019. When it was released, AnimeAJay pointed out that they added fake grain to the pictures. They removed fake grain and then added artificial grain to the already destroyed picture. Another clear sign Funimation doesn't know why people wanted the grainy pictures and doesn't know what they're doing. AnimeAJay did a video like Tony here criticizing what was shown. Forum users believe the reason they added fake grain was because AnimeAJay talked about the grainless, damaged pictures. And the addition of fake grain is an attempt at damage control. I wouldn't be surprised if whoever oversaw this thought "Those kids sure do love their grainy Instagram filters. It's so retro." Then there's Dragon Ball Super Broly, not touched upon here. The movie was released to US/CAN/UK Blu-Ray in April 2019 though Japan got their release a little later iirc. However, if you bought Funimation's release, there's a green tint permeates the entire film. The Japanese release doesn't have this green tint. The Manga UK release doesn't have this green tint either (Japanese & English dub). I don't know if Funimation ever fixed it either. This means you need to buy the UK release of the American dub over the the American company's own release. Ridiculous.
@ToastyMann
@ToastyMann 2 жыл бұрын
The green tint on DBS Broly is actually not Funimation's fault. That's just the version Toei gave Funimation to punish Japanese customers for importing (at least that's what I've heard, not too sure if that last part is true).
@HenrythePaleoGuy
@HenrythePaleoGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToastyMann If so that's wild, but doubtful.
@HarmonyOmega
@HarmonyOmega 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToastyMann Honestly i'd believe that considering how insanely expensive a lot of home media is in Japan from what I can see
@mossex420
@mossex420 2 жыл бұрын
I love Kai and personally find its colour palette (in the original run) to be the most appealing of all the home video releases. That said, the random af redrawn scenes are disgusting and definitely drag the whole thing down.
@DaxSchaffer
@DaxSchaffer 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@elmarakovideo
@elmarakovideo 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the too clean digital redrawn scenes by Toei don't match the grainy original footage.
@carloRX78K2
@carloRX78K2 2 жыл бұрын
Well it still IMO the better version of DBZ as its more 90% close to the manga, less filler and faster paced, ive only managed to watch the DBZ for about 3x in my whole lifetime.
@TheLegendOfLame
@TheLegendOfLame 2 жыл бұрын
@@carloRX78K2 yeah, as someone who has seen both versions, I can never go back to original Z. The only thing is I miss the original Kakuchi score. I hear there are versions of Kai with it, but it's been hard for me to track down. Kai having no filler is what does it for me, along with the better english dub voice acting. If only there was a release of DBZ with the original cells, most of the filler cut (besides maybe some like the drivers license episode since it was referenced in Super Hero), newer voice acting/Kai's voice acting, and had the original Kikuchi score. Sadly I don't think I would see a version remotely like this unless I made it myself, which would be a colossal effort, not to mention I don't have the original cells.
@bigbangpegasusmaster
@bigbangpegasusmaster 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLegendOfLame Kai with Kikuchi score isn't exactly good tbh, since the music placement got butchered
@blakewilliams5627
@blakewilliams5627 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know about the $25 dollars standard. This was probably the suggested retail price, but I feel like I remember seeing them for between $17-$21 a dvd. I remember FYE having multiple rows of shelfs dedicated to dbz VHS & DVD Singles. That was a amazing time to be a anime fan.
@christiandowell9667
@christiandowell9667 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the dvds being 9.99
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 2 жыл бұрын
Well, he mentioned living in Canada. Things tend to be more expensive in Canada.
@reggiePLEASE
@reggiePLEASE Жыл бұрын
@@khfan4life365 not more expensive, it's just the Canadian dollar is worth less against the US dollar (worth less, as in not as much, not worthless)
@samuelsolomon7330
@samuelsolomon7330 4 жыл бұрын
Toei continually using funimation is like disney choosing EA to make Star Wars games. They know how awful their track record is and how unsatisfied the consumers are, but they dont care, since they are still generating more money than they deserve.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 2 жыл бұрын
The proof that Toei knows: they kicked Funi to the curb for the expensive, high-end ViZ for the current English do-over and distribution of their other immortal cash cow and revolutionary definitive anime adaptation of a revolution definitive manga, Sailor Moon.
@NY_Mapper
@NY_Mapper 2 жыл бұрын
36:57 As someone who grew up watching Kai and got into the series that way, I understand the older generation hates the censorship, but is that really the sole reason why it’s “trash?” Kai‘s censorship was to comply with Japan’s quickly evolving laws involving violence on TV shows. Plus, the dialogue is much better and the Yamamoto score was immaculate, despite the plagiarism.
@maxhydekyle2425
@maxhydekyle2425 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say, despite how much I appreciate what Funimation has done for anime, I must recognize that they have handled things with DB incredibly poorly. I mean come on, DBZ is *the* show that made Funimation a real company! They need to treat the property with much more respect. Without DBZ, Funimation would never have happened and anime in the west might not even be a thing! There's a damn good reason that DBZ enchanted the world in the 90s and early 00s.
@sridrawings4510
@sridrawings4510 2 жыл бұрын
Anime would exist but it won't be popular as it is now today except japan, not only US, but internationally
@saiyanlives9872
@saiyanlives9872 2 жыл бұрын
They need new peoppe working for funimation because i honestly think funimation doesnt do this on purpose i generally believe they think they are doing the right thing ,because what they do cost money, why would u pay to destroy your film? It doesnt make sense so i think they truelly believe that it looks good so there for we need new workers so maybe in future
@lostinthegrave7462
@lostinthegrave7462 2 жыл бұрын
A necessary evil unfortunately. Or else we'd all be stuck in the dark ages paying $30+ for Angel Cop and Violence Jack tapes.
@taxscandalandthebuenos
@taxscandalandthebuenos 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this video. I always end up rewatching it every couple months because its so informative on all this. I noticed even when I was a little kid that the Japanese audio sounded terrible and I didnt understand why since its the 'original'
@unkono
@unkono 2 жыл бұрын
It is the sound wave embedded on the original film
@taxscandalandthebuenos
@taxscandalandthebuenos Жыл бұрын
Im back again. ✌️
@AkiraleTorimaki
@AkiraleTorimaki 4 жыл бұрын
You know, part of me has to ask...What If the Dragon Boxes were NEVER released in the West? Would the Level Sets be alive and well to this very day?
@retrogamerfan123
@retrogamerfan123 4 жыл бұрын
granted the level sets we’re starting to look very good by the 2nd set i’m wondering if there gona do uhd box sets they could release the whole series in one box but there prob gona milk us
@DragonboltBlastter
@DragonboltBlastter 4 жыл бұрын
@@retrogamerfan123 Of course they will. You MIGHT expect that they will use the same orange brick master for their UHD 2160p releases. (Mark this comment for future reference!)
@AlexanderDiviFilius
@AlexanderDiviFilius 3 жыл бұрын
It’s possible. The level sets are far from a perfect release (even if completed, they’d still lack a lot of features found in the Dragon Boxes), but maybe Funi would have learned the right lessons from them. After all, they were far from bad. Funimation are very unwilling to cater to the hardcore side of the fanbase though, so it’s unlikely they’d ever create their own Dragon Box-tier release without heavy prompting from Toei or whomever.
@SSJ491
@SSJ491 2 жыл бұрын
The Dragon Ball Z Dragon Boxes look cool on paper, it has episodes previews, previous episodes of what happened to the story, and Japanese ost (Shunuke Kikuchi's background soundtracks; sadly there's not a single English dub background soundtracks in 7 box sets (example: Nathan Johnson's soundtracks (ep: #1-67) or Bruce Faulconer's soundtracks (#68-291)). But the thing is the price of what's it costs. The Dragon Ball Z Orange Bricks (yes it is the worst as it looks) had the price lower than the Dragon Ball Z Dragon Boxes. While the Dragon Ball Z Dragon Boxes cost like $1000!!!! What in the world are they're thinking, I am definitely not going to spend that kind of money just to buy one single or multiple box sets of the show that I grew up from my childhood years. It's a bad business decision from FUNimation on that part.
@AkiraleTorimaki
@AkiraleTorimaki 2 жыл бұрын
@@SSJ491 The Dragon Boxes aren’t a thousand dollars or more because of Funimation. Funimation discontinued the DBoxes a long while ago (probably over a decade ago) and since then it’s been on the secondary market (usually eBay). When it WAS on the market and Funi was selling them, each box cost eighty dollars, totaling five-hundred sixty dollars for the whole set…pricier than the Orange Bricks, but considering what they were packaged with, it would’ve been worth it.
@supasaiyan5884
@supasaiyan5884 Жыл бұрын
Kai is the definitive way for me. It's fast paced, it's faithful as much as possible to the original manga by Toriyama and it has a better English Dub and a HQ Japanese Dub. It's not a flawless release but it's not a bad one either.
@DevilHunter1994
@DevilHunter1994 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. While I do miss some of the filler episodes that were cut, (like some of the Gohan training episodes in the Saiyan Saga) most of them I can happily do without. Also, as somone who prefers watching anime with an English dub...I just find the original Funimation DBZ dub to be really hard to go back to, especially in those early seasons. I say this as someone who grew up with that original English dub on Toonami. It was a part of my childhood, and I'll always have some fondness for it, but it's not something I can revisit now. Kai's more faithful, and manga accurate english translation of the script was exactly what I needed, and the performances from the returning English cast were great. I even enjoyed, and in some cases outright loved, the new additions to the cast. People may have mixed opinions on Bluma, or young Gohan, and that's fair enough, even though I disagree. Chris Ayres though (may he rest in peace) as Frieza was absolutely flawless, and I will hear no arguments to the contrary...I'm half kidding with that last statement of course, but in all seriousness, Chris' Frieza was so damn good.
@unkono
@unkono Жыл бұрын
It's also in true HD.
@blue_wolfproductions12
@blue_wolfproductions12 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. When Kai came out it was in a dark place in my life
@dankerbell
@dankerbell 3 ай бұрын
yeah if i had to wait an eternity for literally anything to happen in og z i would've lost interest immediately, kai is peak and this guy and every other og z stan can stuff it as far as i care. there's a reason non-dragon ball fans make fun of the show and call it nothing but powering up and screaming, because OG Z is what gave it that reputation. if db fans could just suck it up and recommend kai to people, way more new blood would be interested in the franchise and we'd be better than ever (also all my friends think goku is really boring because the only version they hear about is the non-canon og z characterisation, i had to send them clips of kai to prove how goku really acts)
@machineboyrecroom
@machineboyrecroom 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, Crunchyroll needs to fix the errors that Funimation did back in the day. I would’ve been happy buying the original Z on DVD, but the problem is, is that the quality on there is not as good as watching it and it’s original format as you see with the level sets and the Dragon Box and the Kai DVDs And, that’s the reason why I started collecting Kai but then the prices went up on Amazon and I didn’t want to spend $30-40 but what pushes my buttons is why Funimation didn’t just leave it in 4:3 we didn’t need it to be cropped, there was no reason to and then say “You can finally watch it as it was originally intended” originally intended to isn’t cropped to widescreen! And let’s also not forget that the original Dragon Ball Z was like nine seasons, long with at least 300 episodes and I’m not rich so that would take me at least six or seven years to finish collecting and Kai is not that long because they cut out all the filler and they made it faster paste so they should be less seasons of Kai but now I don’t know if I’m gonna continue collecting because the prices went up for those DVDs. They probably are hardly being printed now since Funimation is no longer a company so I don’t know what to do now and I’m not gonna buy these horrible box sets that make the footage less enjoyable.
@mattweaver782
@mattweaver782 3 жыл бұрын
I remember going to a music store in a small shopping mall in Illinois in 99-00. The dvds had been completely cleaned out so I go to the vhs and they're almost gone I bought the episode from the android/cell saga where Goku and Picolo take driving lessons. 12/13 year old decided having that episode on vhs was better than having no Dragon Ball Z at all.
@calir4849
@calir4849 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I didn't even have that luxury back then. Me as a 9 year old would record blank vhs tapes from Cartoon Network lol 😆 the embarrassment.
@salinger1106
@salinger1106 2 жыл бұрын
What’s wrong with Kai? Isn’t it well praised for its remaster and better dub and lack of filler?
@Jermster_91
@Jermster_91 2 жыл бұрын
They cut out the blood of the series.
@jadeepicpgaming
@jadeepicpgaming 2 жыл бұрын
@Vdx Xxy Very small amount though. This guy's complaints about Kai are pretty dumb. It's a much better series especially in English
@AKUNJIG
@AKUNJIG 2 жыл бұрын
The criticism comes from the Older Fans. I liked Kai. I would tune in every week to watch it. It was also the first time I got to hear the Japanese Cast. Was a big fan of Vegeta's Voice Actor. Chris Ayres (RIP) really took inspiration from Ryūsei Nakao's performance as Frieza.
@salinger1106
@salinger1106 2 жыл бұрын
@@AKUNJIG I also just bought the DBZ on blu ray sets. Yes the 16:9 ones and they look amazing. I dont care what anyone says. They look the best next to the Kai blu rays.
@framedthunder6436
@framedthunder6436 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jermster_91 that was only on the broadcast versión The Home release we're uncut (Also the Raditz scene was changed because they wanted to make ir faithful to the manga we're wasn't Blood)
@thatguyknownaswill8180
@thatguyknownaswill8180 8 ай бұрын
I’m part of a new wave of fans: the ones that start watching DB because of the global response to Toriyama-san’s passing, which pushed me to check the series out. I’m starting with the original dragon ball. Already on episode 7 and I’m hooked! I wish I didn’t sleep on this series for so long! (Edit): I finished the Piccolo Jr Saga and now I’m on Z! (Edit 2): I’m on the buu saga now
@PowerPackers90
@PowerPackers90 2 жыл бұрын
People need to also remember that Toei plays a major hand in this. The remastered footage they made at Toei is probably more money to send over than for funimations to make their inhouse remastered versions. Toei does this with all their international partners, Hasbro/Saban, Shout Factory, Viz, and even Funimation.
@reggiePLEASE
@reggiePLEASE Жыл бұрын
at least the only thing that stays consistently good throughout the releases is Steve Simmons's subtitles.
@donttrustem13
@donttrustem13 2 жыл бұрын
I remember spending a long time reading an article in Shonen Jump about how they altered, zoomed and refilled for the rereleased DVDs in widescreen and trying to wrap my head around how it was a good thing
@unkono
@unkono 2 жыл бұрын
Its affordable and accessible way to Z with the merican Ost
@Blackmongoose
@Blackmongoose 3 жыл бұрын
I understand the comments about kai's terrible redraws and censorship but why is the lack of filler a bad thing? Very little filler in dbz was any good anyway and they removed it in kai to make it more faithful to the manga.
@RevolvingCube
@RevolvingCube 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly despite the bad footage I like Kai more for it's better voice acting and script
@ToastyMann
@ToastyMann 2 жыл бұрын
The filler is annoying but the episode where Goku learns to drive is legendary
@ZariLutus
@ZariLutus 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, wasnt the censorship just the TV release? I'm pretty sure the dvd releases had uncensored versions of the footage
@gamerplayer8882
@gamerplayer8882 2 жыл бұрын
The filler isn't even that bad in Z, the padding is what makes it terrible. Z has so much padding its disgusting. I'd love for a fan made version of kai with the filler episodes in tact still.
@Blackmongoose
@Blackmongoose 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamerplayer8882 I have to disagree. The garlic jr saga, fake namek, the weird stuff with gohan and those orphans etc. I hate a majority of the filler in Z and original Dragon Ball.
@cesarvictoriano8072
@cesarvictoriano8072 3 жыл бұрын
So I guess you could say… The Dragon Boxes became the Dragon Balls themselves in their rarity.
@rising_dragonsol5332
@rising_dragonsol5332 3 жыл бұрын
You said it
@hrnbrigade4991
@hrnbrigade4991 3 жыл бұрын
YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH sorry I know this meme is dead but I couldn't help it for this occasion.
@moesabally1502
@moesabally1502 2 жыл бұрын
Especially since they are in 7 volumes, with a dragon ball printed on the back.
@nathangitz2674
@nathangitz2674 2 жыл бұрын
As I recall, the seventh commercial said something like, "Seven Dragon Balls, seven Dragon Boxes! Heh, coincidence? I DON'T THINK SO!"
@chrishill9197
@chrishill9197 Жыл бұрын
@@hrnbrigade4991 What meme is that?
@selfloathingweekly
@selfloathingweekly Жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the person who collected all the original 3-4 episode DVDs only to see the orange bricks announced, then as he finally got the last orange brick they announced the dragon boxes and then as he finally got the Dragon boxes he saw the Kai announcement and bought the Kai DVDs and then as he bought Kai he saw the level boxes being announced..and after buying all the level boxes he could buy, he hears they're canceled but then Funimation announces a blu ray set of Kai .. I would be LIVID
@unkono
@unkono Жыл бұрын
That's mommy and daddies money.
@Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble
@Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why this is so hard to figure out. The Japanese Dragon boxes practically did all the work, was it so difficult to just import that version, stick on an English dub and release it. Does anyone have any legit reason why Funimation does this?
@Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble
@Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble 2 жыл бұрын
@@duncanohoge If that's true then that sucks on Toei's part as they missed out on potentially billions of dollars in revenue. But on the other side of the coin why does Funimation do such a poor job of "remastering" even second generation copies? I mean I get maybe fiddling with the colors a bit to hide any imperfections, but this is just terrible. I still own S1 of "The Simpsons" on DVD from 2001 and that show cam out the same year as DBZ, 89 and it looks fine. I mean it's never going to look as nice as current Simpsons but at least it's in it's original aspect ratio and still watchable through an HDTV.
@Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble
@Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble 2 жыл бұрын
@@duncanohoge On reflection I wouldn't mind a DVD release of DB, Z and GT that was the same or of similar quality to the Ultimate Uncut Editions. I'm sure it wouldn't please many hardcore fans, but it looks better than what we got. Also with regards to the Dragon Box it sucks that that never got a European release, otherwise I would've loved to have owned that here in Britain, but they are way too expensive even pre owned and no way am I shilling out more money for a multi region Blu Ray player. (sigh)
@PutoML
@PutoML 2 жыл бұрын
@@duncanohoge Yeah, no. That’s definitely not the case. For starters, Crunchyroll’s subtitled streams use the Dragon Box footage. Multiple releases in Europe use the Dragon Box footage as well. All the online streams in Japanese video on demand services also use the Dragon Box footage.
@namelessresource5782
@namelessresource5782 8 ай бұрын
If they released a "definitive edition" they'd have no incentive to keep re-releasing their most lucrative and profitable property. Same thing Nintendo does, really.
@YAH2121
@YAH2121 Жыл бұрын
Of course the level sets, the best quality versions besides the original cels themselves, is the one that gets canceled.
@alexandernickaboine4798
@alexandernickaboine4798 Жыл бұрын
and it's all Funimation's own fault too. You had the original DVD sets, you had the Orange Bricks, you had the Dragon Boxes, then you also had DBZ Kai around at the time. FOUR SEPARATE RELEASES to watch DBZ that just incredibly overflooded the market. Then when they actually gave a freak to try people were just sick and tired of all of it. smh
@ragnaazure6231
@ragnaazure6231 3 жыл бұрын
This is orange brick. And this is orange brick that has ascended past a orange brick, or as I like to call it a Season Set, and this (30th Anniversary Edition) is to go further beyond. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHH!
@jking4854
@jking4854 3 жыл бұрын
That fictional release with the original broadcast audio and original animation cell colours and quality sounds amazing.
@Skopin
@Skopin 2 жыл бұрын
Those couple animation cels were gorgeous.
@danielbetancourt1483
@danielbetancourt1483 3 жыл бұрын
Video was incredible. Truly documentary quality. It frankly upsets me knowing how this all turned out.
@blue_wolfproductions12
@blue_wolfproductions12 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda triggered that you crapped on Kai. But this video does an excellent job on discussing on all the home releases of DBZ. There are genuinely too many home releases of DBZ.
@lightsideendings5815
@lightsideendings5815 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. It brought back some painful memories though, let me tell you. I remember being so excited when Orange Brick 'Season One' came out. This would be my FIRST experience of seeing the Saiyan Saga uncut and subtitled in Japanese. FINALLY, I was buying it and taking it home! And FINALLY, the original score. And FINALLY, the word "die." And FINALLY, beer. And FINALLY, bloo-w-wait, why is half his hair cut off there? Once I learned the truth about the cropping, I tried to deny it. I really did. Tried to convince myself that the picture wasn't THAT bad, and that FUNimation's "image comparisons" were telling the truth. I could see most of what was happening, right? ...Right? No. They screwed up. Just like every other release. What was even worse was that with the Blu-ray season sets, they were STILL doing it. They STILL thought this was a good idea! Oh, and yes. Those Orange Bricks were EVERYWHERE. For YEARS. Whole sections at Walmart where you could find all 9 of them readily available to buy.
@unkono
@unkono 2 жыл бұрын
Its still like that today
@unkono
@unkono 11 ай бұрын
I still go back and rewatch this video.
@d-manthecaptain1382
@d-manthecaptain1382 9 ай бұрын
It's oddly addicting
@KEZAstraYT
@KEZAstraYT 4 ай бұрын
Same
@NikolasBellica-ek2ss
@NikolasBellica-ek2ss Жыл бұрын
As big fan of Dragon Ball, I gonna be brutal honest, I never supported the show by buying the official release. Why? 1. Because it was never officially released on home video where I live. Only trash quality TV broadcast, that was censored as hell, all the names and things were changed, and the quality was terrible. 2. Buying those official, terrible releases, was not a option, they were too expensive, with super expensive shipping and the quality was terrible. Where I live only the manga was available, and that's the only piece of Dragon Ball media I was buying. Even today, Dragon Ball Super anime and movies DVD/BR here are not officially released, they are imported from EU with no changes. They don't have our language in any shape and form. And to add more salt to the wound, we are one of the big community of Dragon Ball in EU.
@tntcactus2615
@tntcactus2615 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t get over how the Season 4 Orange Brick says ‘Containing the complete Garlic Jr, Trunks, and Android’ instead of ‘Trunks, and Android sagas’
@Dell2YT
@Dell2YT 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, I love this video. THANK YOU for your efforts on this journey. ... secondly i'd like to add a nitpick of mine concerning the DBZ releases: Super Buu's voice mimicked the original CN broadcast on the first (~1997-2003) DVD release in North America... but Funimation decided to change it.. for the infamous orange brick release! (for whatever reason, they removed the ominous lower pitch effect on his voice, in favor of a higher, more annoying voice)... and to this day for every subsequent release.. do you know which vocal track they use for the english dub?? You guessed it-- the orange brick vocals. Every single blu-ray release has this "problem". I know this sounds crazy. But I had to do a lot of digging and "research" to find out why none of the physical DBZ releases sounded like my old, treasured, VHS recordings from toonami back in the early 2000's. So... long story short, I got lucky and managed to hunt down the old 2003 DVD box sets for the Fusion and Kid Buu sagas-- which have Super Buu's voice sounding exactly like I remember, plus uncut footage in 4:3. ... just throwing that out there. Just in case anyone else needs another reason to hate the orange bricks.
@MastaKeahi
@MastaKeahi Жыл бұрын
I’ve slowly come to realize the best way to watch Z is through Dokkan Supper attacks and active skills.
@Karianysu
@Karianysu Жыл бұрын
It's based on DB Box wich looks unnacurate
@Maceyoshiman
@Maceyoshiman 2 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked. I watched the entire thing on Orange Brick and had no idea of the downgrades.
@j062
@j062 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing wrong with Kai is the reanimated sequences, and Gohan's new voice lol, but kai truly is the best version of Z out there. Sadly a huge portion of traditional and older fans act like it's bad just because they're mad that it straight up exposes how incredibly bad the original English dub is. If you watch it Japanese then I don't really know which version is better. Also, original Buu saga is pretty decent, and the final Chapters is inferior to kai 1.0, so I guess I wouldn't know which one to recommend when it comes to that saga.
@JEFFMAN90
@JEFFMAN90 3 жыл бұрын
Facts. I grew up on the old Z dub and as a 29 year old now I realize that the dub was bad. But that was because the voice actors were pretty much new in the industry and had no experience
@rizkit1752
@rizkit1752 2 жыл бұрын
I personally don't care for Kai, but I will admit that the voice acting and scripts were better than the original Z dub. But they couldn't have used a different voice for kid Gohan? Holy smokes, that voice hurts my ears! And I hate how I have to listen to it whenever I play a modern DBZ game like Kakarot, which is a double shame because Gohan is my favorite DBZ character.
@TheRealBP3
@TheRealBP3 Жыл бұрын
Why does everyone hate DBZ Kai? Coming from someone who grew up watching reruns on cartoon network, losing interest, and then rediscovering DBZ in the from of Kai on Nicktoons, which I know is the worst possible version considering how heavily censored it was. After that, I bought the remastered DB set and DBZ sets on DVD. After the freiza arc on Namek, I got burned out. I started thinking, is watching an entire arc about Goku and Piccolo getting their driver licenses necessary? Is an entire arc about a "vampire disease" necessary? This one takes the cake for me. Is an entire arc dedicated to SPACE ORPHANS necessary? In my opinion, HELL NO! I wanted a way of viewing the show from point A to B with the nonsense side stories taken out. Low and behold, I rediscovered Kai. It was the best version of DBZ I had discovered. But seriously though, why all the hate?
@robertlafrance9974
@robertlafrance9974 Жыл бұрын
I like dbz Kai but lemme bring you some points 1 Because of filler 2 because of censorship (wrong versions) 3 Because it’s not like z 4 some voice changes 5 bad version/ edit of z
@Themetalwookie666
@Themetalwookie666 4 ай бұрын
It's because of nostalgia. As someone who did not have cartoon network and had to read the manga in grade school due to it, I much prefer Kai because it cuts out all the bs and stays faithful to the manga. Kinda hoping they do the same with Naruto Shippuden someday.
@VenomTheLethalProtector
@VenomTheLethalProtector 7 ай бұрын
Rip toriyama i hope they honor you by a quality home release
@darktoonlink2k145
@darktoonlink2k145 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to see this video taken down, it deserved all the attention it ever got the first time around. As a kid who grew up with Kai, I empathize with you man. I hope one day we can all enjoy a quality version of OG DBZ without shelling out over $1,000.
@starwindamada5313
@starwindamada5313 3 жыл бұрын
Kid, I grew up with the early Funi dub back in 99 when I was finishing middle school. Back when they dubbed it they had to connect a toaster to a washing machine and wait 45 minutes to rewind the tape when Sabat messed up a line.
@twinswords79dualblade84
@twinswords79dualblade84 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic how a horrible release of DBZ was an absolute hit and can still be found to this day While the Level Sets that actually went frame by frame to give the show better quality and overall gives the viewer the best experience, got canceled after two sets due to poor sales. This is on Funimation for not airing out the releases but this is also on us, we praised the shit releases to the point where they’re the norm and the actual best remaster Z could get will never see the light of day.
@Greviator
@Greviator 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot with this slander of Kai! lol, I’ll admit the redrawn instances stick out terribly and the censorship they kept is rough. That being said, the censor issue really is only bad in the sayian saga, and the redrawn moments are few, short, and far in between. The real crime is the Buu saga release (when they did it way later) was a lazy rush job by toei. Not only did they revert to widescreen, but now there’s a green tint to everything I’m glad to cut much of the filler, and will still be my preferred way; but damn do I wish they did it better. Anyways, great vid! I didn’t know much of this, as I was checked out of db pretty much 05-15 lol
@MattSinz
@MattSinz 8 ай бұрын
And censorship was only an issue for the TV version that aired on Nicktoons, the home release was almost completely uncut.
@digit861
@digit861 3 жыл бұрын
It's infuriating! They also claim, now, that regarding dub and writing and presentation- that 'people want the original un-edited'. It's baffling!! Funimation is the devil. The 30th anniversary is an insult! They also released 4 different versions & had the nerve to be surprised that people didn't buy up the Level Sets (which were pretty good quality), & decided it was because people preferred their shoot DNR cropped garbage. So many other anime's don't get fucked with like DBZ does. It's heartbreaking
@alexblackburn2247
@alexblackburn2247 2 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite way to watch the show is Kai, as the newer releases of Kai are in 4:3 and have MUCH better audio and voice acting. Also cutting out all of the hours of filler from the show REALLY helps with rewatch ability. That being said, some of the redrawn shots are pretty jarring, but not all of them are bad.
@forza8719
@forza8719 2 жыл бұрын
I hate Kai for the simple fact they changed the dialogue and the voice acting isn’t the same. The OG voice acting like vegeta for example is irreplaceable.
@nickleback3695
@nickleback3695 2 жыл бұрын
@@forza8719 It's the same voice actor bud, look it up. He's just not doing a poor impersonation of ocean dub vegeta this time.
@forza8719
@forza8719 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickleback3695 no shit it’s the same voice actor lol Chris sabatt. I’m saying the original dialogue is just better. Nothing will ever beat it imo.
@forza8719
@forza8719 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickleback3695 I said acting not actors
@MrTokyoJunkie
@MrTokyoJunkie 2 жыл бұрын
@@forza8719 Funnily enough, you prefer the disjointed and choppy dialogue of the original that was completely different from the Japanese script. Fine if you do, but understand those who want the true context of every scene.
@natalis08
@natalis08 3 жыл бұрын
The best video hands down that explains all the releases. I’m still holding out for the level set to be brought back. Especially with original broadcast audio & Bruce Falcouner audio. Is there any hope especially now with the steel box release?
@philthestampede
@philthestampede 2 жыл бұрын
There are still Funimation apologists to this day that defend the cropping. Their knees probably have calluses.
@elmarakovideo
@elmarakovideo 2 жыл бұрын
Sad gullible dub fans. Funi still SUCKS!
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 2 жыл бұрын
Funimation apologists' _entire bodies_ are scarred by what Funi does to them once they get on their knees. 😬
@GabeNwagbala
@GabeNwagbala 3 жыл бұрын
FUNi: We made Orange Bricks in Widescreen! 16:9 VIZ: (Laughs As J. Jonah) No. Sailor Moon Classic is in 4:3 and Sailor Moon Movie Trilogy in 16:9 by Toei since 2009 so Hold our Silver Crystal & Drinks. 🥤.
@AmbientAnalogue
@AmbientAnalogue Ай бұрын
And then Funimation died
@colin6052
@colin6052 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe we're still in this predicament. Honestly, I don't understand why they don't do the sensible thing and do a real ultimate set and finally just make EVERYONE happy by including the 4:3 remastered like the level sets and include 16:9 as well. Think of how Disney+ handled The Simpsons. I honestly wouldnt care at this point if I had to pay extra because it includes both as long as I know it has 4:3 done right. If we could get the original broadcast audio as well, that's even better
@Limit02
@Limit02 Жыл бұрын
Honestly you should’ve mentioned what happened with Kai TFC, I know that’s arguably more Toei’s fault but the cropping and green tint is inexcusable, sucks that the best version of the Buu saga’s English dub is stuck in that
@ladyinwight
@ladyinwight 4 жыл бұрын
if you want to watch it dubbed, the re-dub of kai alone makes it better than Z imo. the voice acting in kai makes the voice acting in Z sound like a college student's school project. it's a lot easier to take seriously.
@frisby7143
@frisby7143 3 жыл бұрын
The way I watch it is Kai with a tiny bit of Z mixed in. Primarily the Saiyan saga filler. Oh and pickon in the Majin buy saga
@Rei322
@Rei322 3 жыл бұрын
Kakacarrotcake you am no real super sand -Virginia
@frisby7143
@frisby7143 3 жыл бұрын
@Ruthless Attitude Entertainment Ok please tell us why DBZ is so much more superior than Kai
@frisby7143
@frisby7143 3 жыл бұрын
@Ruthless Attitude Entertainment Wow you are literally the stereotype of a fanboy purist.
@AlexanderDiviFilius
@AlexanderDiviFilius 3 жыл бұрын
@@frisby7143 the Saiyan arc filler is really good, so I’d agree. A case where the anime took advantage of its format to properly flesh out the story and give things more time to grow. The DBZ uncut dub for it isn’t terrible either. Now, it’s not conventionally good, but it is a step up from Funi’s awful Seasons 3 and 4 dub.
@Zostead
@Zostead 4 жыл бұрын
That's crazy, I was thinking about this video the other day. Guess I'll jus watch it for the 10th time.
@AndrewCARNBORN
@AndrewCARNBORN 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if I'm going crazy but I don't remember Kai looking THAT badly redrawn. When they were showing it on Nicktoons it looked great and didn't have as much censorship as people claim
@phanindravaibhav3319
@phanindravaibhav3319 2 жыл бұрын
It's just a couple scenes here and there that were redrawn (you can tell there is a massive difference in art style when they appear). Other than that, I feel like the color/lighting change for the overall original footage looks good.
@CalderTF2
@CalderTF2 3 жыл бұрын
Kai is probably the best looking way to currently watch, sure it does cut out a lot of filler, and the raditz saga is heavily censored, but it's still great.
@lucasholley6026
@lucasholley6026 4 жыл бұрын
for real, the remaster on the GT Green Bricks would be better than what we've gotten recently. the green bricks look good, and they're everywhere, TODAY. they're obviously cheap to make, so why not just make that for Z?
@Rigicai05
@Rigicai05 3 жыл бұрын
Are they the same quality as the VHS tapes?
@lucasholley6026
@lucasholley6026 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rigicai05 they're a little better than the single DVDs. not exactly Dragon Box, but acceptable.
@Rigicai05
@Rigicai05 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasholley6026 Is the soundtrack the same?
@lucasholley6026
@lucasholley6026 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rigicai05 More or less. The Bricks have Dub with Dub score (where applicable), Dub with Sub score, and Sub with Sub Score.
@lucasholley6026
@lucasholley6026 3 жыл бұрын
@Rigicai05 I should mention that except for the single DVDs/VHS Tapes, when it says "U.S. Broadcast Audio" it is not really US broadcast audio. It uses the dub tracks and the revised dub to peacemeal together an almost broadcast version.
@zackywarner9705
@zackywarner9705 4 жыл бұрын
"IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE, ULTIMATE EDITION, IN THE ORIGINAL 4:3 ASPECT RATIO!" Original 4:3 aspect ratio ratio my butt, they just zoomed in the footage from the Orange bricks! Thank God I didn't get the 30th anniversary set!
@Yoko.Kurama
@Yoko.Kurama 4 жыл бұрын
That's false. A lot of times it actually has more showing than dragon box
@nakkiperuna5723
@nakkiperuna5723 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think we will ever get a well done Hd remaster of DBZ as long as Funi had the license. Discotek Media did some fantastic remaster for Cagliostros Castle and Hajime no Ippo. Both look stunning. Crisp graphics and looks great.
@nbadokkan2718
@nbadokkan2718 Жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is they brought back the 30th anniversary Blu-ray Collectors Edition set on Crunchyroll store
@victorhugotrujillo831
@victorhugotrujillo831 3 жыл бұрын
Latin Americans DB fans be like: Wait, you are getting home video releases?
@CarloNassar
@CarloNassar 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Funimation, Just give DBZ to Shout Factory or The Criterion Collection. (5-11-2021)
@ToastyMann
@ToastyMann 3 жыл бұрын
*this*
@CarloNassar
@CarloNassar 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToastyMann Late reply, but can you tell me what you mean by that?
@ToastyMann
@ToastyMann 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarloNassar I agree with it.
@CarloNassar
@CarloNassar 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToastyMann Very well.
@starstudio8402
@starstudio8402 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I agree.
@brandinjamin
@brandinjamin 2 жыл бұрын
36:59 "key scene" MY ASS. it was not in the original manga and is therefore considered FILLER, and definitely not a "key scene".
@DarkDoge
@DarkDoge 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. I still love kai. I have all the episodes downloaded to watch from time to time.
@SG-17
@SG-17 Жыл бұрын
I just went with the Kai blu-rays in the end. Except for the Buu Saga somehow being fucking cropped wide-screen the rest of the show is a pretty great transfer.
@Ealais76
@Ealais76 7 ай бұрын
Kai buu saga is ass quality wise
@hughmungus1501
@hughmungus1501 Жыл бұрын
Funimation is the Konami of the anime industry: not caring about the fandom and only caring about money
@davidbowick7830
@davidbowick7830 3 жыл бұрын
I can't get over the editing of the guy in the chair around the 40:00 min mark saying the same damn lie over and over again. :D lol
@Scsigs
@Scsigs 2 жыл бұрын
Kai isn't a bad version of Z. Though a bit censored due to changing broadcast standards, it got significantly less so over time & is actually very watchable. Though the redrawn frames CAN look distracting, there aren't a lot of them. Plus, I think the pacing & English dub are far superior to Z's. Although, The Final Chapters could've done without the cropping to widescreen & keeping in of more filler than it should've. Condensed more closely to 52 episodes or so, I think it would've been better off for it.
@RubenzWorld
@RubenzWorld 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@paperluigi6132
@paperluigi6132 Жыл бұрын
They should’ve at least kept the driving episode which, to my knowledge, is the most popular and well received of all of Z’s filler.
@SonicmanChannel
@SonicmanChannel Жыл бұрын
i just straight up agree with this.
@Scsigs
@Scsigs Жыл бұрын
@@paperluigi6132 Meh. Whether a filler was popular or not, it makes no difference. It also still exists on the home releases of Z, so you can still enjoy it all you want.
@12me91
@12me91 4 жыл бұрын
"The fanbase continues to wait for the perfect, DBZ home release. There is no end to that wait in sight. " even worse, now that they are releasing the 30thA as season sets kanzaneshuu has started simping for it!
@pikafanfan9405
@pikafanfan9405 3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure? Not kanzenshuu :(((((
@jadedheartsz
@jadedheartsz 3 жыл бұрын
@@pikafanfan9405 As someone who is actually on Kanzenshuu I can tell you that's complete and utter bullshit.
@culex2513
@culex2513 2 жыл бұрын
No, they've given up, because they've grown tired of Funimation's incompetence.
@unkono
@unkono 2 жыл бұрын
People have given up. Not simping.
@supermariofan03
@supermariofan03 3 жыл бұрын
To quote Piccolo: Which concussion did you suffer to make you think ANY of this was a good idea?!
@DaxSchaffer
@DaxSchaffer 2 жыл бұрын
Or just.......... read the manga. I keed, I keeeeeed. For real though, this was an insanely well done video that helped to clarify the extremely confusing release history of this series. I was always so constantly baffled and confused by the various re-releases Funimation would unleash here. Every time I would look at one of them, I'd find something wrong like the stupid cropping from 4:3 to 16:9 crap, or the garbage DNR filtering. These same things happened to some of my favorite old Disney movies on Blu-Ray like Robin Hood and Sword in the Stone, so I would always seek out the older DVDs if I could. Even if companies are obsessed with fitting an image to modern TVs, why not just include a video option on the home release for either aspect ratio? This has been a thing for years. Hell, I can watch Ghibli movies in STORYBOARDS if I feel like it! Just by pressing a single button!!! How there can still not be a proper, unf*cked with release of DBZ in the year of our Kami 2022 is just utterly beyond me. Anyway, once again, fantastic video. Loved this very niche, yet very necessary to shed light upon topic for a mini documentary!! Kudos to the work you did here.
@doctoradventure413
@doctoradventure413 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s so weird that for the longest time in the west dbz was marketed as the most badass thing ever when the actual series is pretty silly.
@wusty1716
@wusty1716 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for re uploading this!
@bubmario
@bubmario 2 жыл бұрын
Might be worth mentioning certain fanedits, like the iKaos one that remasters it the way Funimation should have done.
@samuelb-1406
@samuelb-1406 4 жыл бұрын
This NEEDS more views, I wanted to find more information on the dbz home media releases because of a Just Stop video, I'm not even a dragon ball fan.
@ToastyMann
@ToastyMann 3 жыл бұрын
This is a reupload. The OG vid got copyright claimed and it had tons of views.
@Tiknuttle
@Tiknuttle 3 жыл бұрын
The orange brick were really bad, even noticable for casual fans
@pacosanchez7216
@pacosanchez7216 3 ай бұрын
They HAVE to have 4K raw scans sitting around. It's not a cheap process. It's the post-production and compression of these that's the problem
@unkono
@unkono 2 ай бұрын
I heard the edges of the film were damaged
@noir269
@noir269 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that they cancelled the Level Sets DVDS. The Orange Bricks collection was the first DBZ home media that I ever bought 3 years ago and I lost them last year. I found out before losing them that they butchered the visual quality so now I couldn't care less. I would rather watch something that has the Level Sets quality.
@canofnothing
@canofnothing 3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching Kai recently, and for the most part enjoying it, weird animation replacements and all. Then I got to one of my favourite parts of the entire series, when Gohan turns Super Saiyan 2, and that beautiful, powerful song was nowhere to be heard. My spirit broke, and I started scouring the internet looking for information on the "best" version of DBZ. After watching this video, my heart broke even more. A moment of silence for the Level sets, because that's exactly what I would have wanted in my collection. Gone too soon. Maybe I'll buy them anyway just to have a little slice of paradise. The only thing that I came across in my research that made me kind of happy was knowing they released the "Rock the Dragon" edition in 2013. That was the version I grew up with, and I still have my old VHS tapes. I may not try to get a copy of that DVD set, but it's nice knowing they got one more shot at being seen. Thanks for doing this awesome video! Out of desperation I was so close to pulling the trigger on the separate releases of the 30th anniversary edition, but I guess I'll hold off now. Maybe a proper 4K remaster is in the future? I'm way out of the loop with anime now, I don't know if 4K is a thing that's happening with it.
@triiodide7762
@triiodide7762 3 жыл бұрын
What version were you watching? Japanese or English? If it's Japanese and you mean Unmei no hi, I would recommend Z simply because it has better acting than Japanese Kai, although it still has the filler and weird pacing. If it's English, Kai is WAY better. MUCH better acting, pacing, visuals (besides the weird redrawn scenes) and a much more mature script. The uploader showed one of the VERY VERY FEW examples of censorship Kai has, and it's not even that bad.
@canofnothing
@canofnothing 3 жыл бұрын
@@triiodide7762 Yes, that's the song! I watched Japanese Kai. Growing up with the Ocean dub I never got into the Funimation voices. I know they've all improved over time, but it's still so weird to me. I watched all of the original Japanese Z with fansubs waaaaaaaaaay back in the day after Funi took over, so I have a frame of reference for how it all should be. Maybe one day I'll check out English Kai, but right now I'm going through original Dragon Ball instead.
@gaigejohnson7258
@gaigejohnson7258 2 жыл бұрын
I was working at Best Buy at the time the level sets came out, and I grabbed up both as they came out. Still have em. I'm still bitter that they didn't continue as they really were the best way to watch. I had the first three seasons of the orange bricks and they really were trash, prior to that I had several of the vhs and DVDs. Then came the Blu rays, have all of those and then bought the latest full 4:3 Blu ray collection. I like it, but it's not perfect.
@EpicFunkyMode
@EpicFunkyMode 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. It's a shame Funi is hell-bent on giving us piss poor releases. It seems their strategy is to slowly upgrade over and over and over again in order to sell us the same show year after year.
@samuel-wankenobi
@samuel-wankenobi 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don’t know why because with there other anime releases like one piece they have good video quality and no problems but with dragon ball they give us bad video quality
@jadenalvarado4912
@jadenalvarado4912 Жыл бұрын
They should of waited until 2015 for the level sets
@rehaansiddiqie
@rehaansiddiqie 8 ай бұрын
"THE SEASON SET IS BEING PRESENTED IN 16:9"
@unkono
@unkono 8 ай бұрын
Half of that dudes face is covered by his shadow when he said that. That was his Zuko moment
@rehaansiddiqie
@rehaansiddiqie 3 ай бұрын
😂​@@unkono
@AlexA-lv1zb
@AlexA-lv1zb 3 жыл бұрын
This used to be my favorite video lmao, I rewatched it like 2 days later and found a greater love and appreciation for this series, saiyan saga still number one
@costelinha1867
@costelinha1867 Жыл бұрын
"Experience the classic series as it was originally intended" Me: The series was never meant to be experienced in 16x9.... in fact 16x9 televisions weren't even a thing back then...
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