DrumLine Battle: Crossmen vs Jersey Surf

[@gavbot]

Hey guys, tall crossmen snare drummer standing next to center here, and we appreciate all the awesome comments! Please understand both organizations were way under pressure to do this. DCI did not give us proper time to prepare, and if any of you march DCI, than you know you spend your time practicing what's important. Please know that both organizations worked hard, speaking from marching Crossmen the past few years

[@lorilxn1597]

I'm 57 now and I really miss drum corps. Went to DCI for many years. Drum Corps is so great for teenagers. I was in Emerald Knights from Cedar Rapids Iowa

[@lorilxn1597]

I'm so happy you guys won 🏆

[@jasenswalley3985]

@@lorilxn1597 42 and was in Nite Express. :)

[@lorilxn1597]

@@jasenswalley3985 that's awesome, I obviously was too old to be in Nite Express. I remember hearing about them. They brought back Tournament of Drums too, of the Emerald Knights and Nite Express alumni have a group going for exhibition.

[@AvengedOnez]

That cymbal visual at 5:13 was just spot on...

[@aandrave]

The surf did a great job and they are a newer corps on the east coast where it seems it's sometimes harder to attract talented players, but man it was a real joy watching the Crossman. Their tenor drums are nearly perfect. Very precise and very classy line.

[@roxfoot]

what are the multiple drum players playing, timpani perhaps ?

[@grahambateman9147]

Mm By

[@tracytanniehill8504]

Please don't forget to send me the

[@elziramontanare6898]

Isso que é banda🌟

[@tatusko]

Crossmen. Cleaner and more complicated figures. No brainer.

[@arielsuave]

+Andrew Tatusko I agree! More fluent body formations and movement too in their first passage. Was surprised of result!

[@relicleader]

+Andrew Tatusko Agreed.

[@borderlander2260]

+Andrew Tatusko more so they were in sych the whole time Jersey was out of step with each other if you noticed that.

[@sadietrigg2850]

+Andrew Tatusko Absolutely no contest. Jersey Serf were physically out of sync with each other and had terrible form. Crossmen were crisp, focused, incredibly technically sound, and their rhythms were simply more complex. They were absolutely robbed.

[@rudisalvarez9941]

tomagapo

[@evilclownattack]

Crossmen sounded like they were playing show music and jersey sounded like they were playing warm ups...

[@sjhaas]

Jersey Surf wasn't too bad, but I liked Crossmen much more

[@Jaysen6740]

Saw the same battle in the GA dome and Surf won there too. I was ticked! I couldn't believe it. Crossmen weren't perfect, but were SOOOOOO much cleaner!

[@Giggles56]

I was disappointed in crossmen, seemed as though they didn't put as much effort in their playing. Clean style don't win the challenge, it also the playing and choreography effort. Crossmen put too much effort in dress and not enough in choreography.

[@TheSigmaElite1987]

Jersey Surf sound like a normal warm-up....

[@spacekj6738]

Billionare Boy dont matter tbh honest, it sounded so good, it was different

[@kerryward6896]

even though the crossmen from san antonio lost they still represented our great state of TEXAS very well ! better luck in the future guys !

[@Grahamster00]

+Kerry Ward I know neither lines, but coming from a drumline myself, I believe the crossmen outplayed (and quite frankly outclassed) the Jersey Surf. I thought the Surf were playing warm up drills at first. Also, Surf dropped their sticks after playing? No manners whatsoever. But that's just my opinon

[@kerryward6896]

i like the way you think ! thanks or the comment !

[@goldenboy551]

+Kreate , I agree

[@chloemartinez4128]

true

[@kerryward6896]

thanks

[@alisontunny9362]

Both of them were outstanding. I’ve never seen or heard this before.

[@mk6435]

Although this is a great display of percussion by both lines, the Crossmen clearly win. However, Jersey Surf do not let that EVER stop you from challenging the bigger corps.

[@mrcal18]

Nah. I think The Crossmen won this one. Cleaner, more articulate...

[@brandonpryormusic]

I remember when drumlines used to play cool cadences with grooves. R.I.P. Latin Lover & Doublebeat

[@alaninnh]

Congrats Surf. I love you guys and am happy to see you found some judges who realize how good you are.

[@arthurvoigt444]

NJ's uniforms were designed by someone on LSD.

[@alexsouth45]

Hahaha

[@justafanintexas7913]

Lake Shore Drive in Chicago?

[@wareagle197155]

A pied piper.

[@terryroper5860]

In 1969.

[@唐辛子オルドノチリ]

I love Crossmen's cymbals! They were beautiful and interesting

[@saydaddy91]

Crossmen demolished them. Do the Judges have ears???

[@chrisflashmusic]

10000000%

[@ryanwest7405]

4:44 girl on left of screen drops cymbal. lol

[@leighmcmillan6282]

YES! argghh!!

[@keklordgrey4522]

that should be at least.... at least a major tick against....

[@12345timm]

Crossmen did better, The tone of JS's snares makes me uneasy whereas crossmen have theirs perfect

[@crztrod]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[@mychannelboyeeeeeeee]

I know nothing about percussion, and I thought that too.

[@ninjamonkey646]

12345timm thank god i wasn't the only one. the JS snares made me want to vomit lol

[@questruak9296]

💯 agree

[@mattkulesza7766]

Agreed

[@brown55061]

Silly me I thought we could just look at the scores at semifinals and determine which drum lines were cleaner.

[@morcombewise720]

The Crossmen blew the Jersey Surf away. The drumming accuracy was higher, the marching more challenging and complex, and even the cymbals players threw in flash waves for visual effect. A _lot_ higher caliber performance.

[@dakers2052]

It was my pleasure to watch Crossman perform at the Seattle Summer Music Games (a DCI sponsored event) for the first time live. A fantastic performance, polished, great sounds and visuals. Look forward to their return to the Pacific Northwest in the future (hopefully, not every 7 years, which seems to be the case).

[@HE360]

I think this drumline battle is a great idea. I wish they would have thought of this a long time ago. This could have been a tie breaker for some corps that tied at the top and this will force the drumlines to stay on the top of their games.

[@DKTaoNeo]

These judges need to get their eyes and ears checked . . . Crossmen was far cleaner and more impressive. Jersey sounded like they were practicing warm-ups for most of the battle.

[@TheSkeeter91]

if Jersey Surf can beat them with a warm up, what does that say about Crossmen?

[@DKTaoNeo]

Like I said, the judges need to get their eyes and ears checked, that's what it says about Crossmen. Watch it again and be honest, if you know anything about marching drumlins you can tell w/out much effort which line is better.

[@TheSkeeter91]

I marched on a drumline for 6 years

[@DKTaoNeo]

I've marched for years as well and I also instruct. Not diminishing or disrespecting your comments or experience, I just believe Crossmen's showing was far better than J Surf. Crossmen's material was more impressive imo.

[@tstew258]

Thank god someone else was thinking that: they literally played eights!

[@seand763]

Crossmen should have won because they were cleaner and didn’t start off with warm ups that a high school would play and they didn’t drop a cymbal either. 4:43

[@TheBritishSensation1]

I think crossmen should have won that battle. They sounded so much better and they look like bad asses with their uniforms

[@marksasahara1115]

Yeah, Crossmen, for sure. Better formation, interesting cymbal work, better playing. It was close, but the Crossmen should've won.

[@andrewupdegrove8270]

Drumline battles aren't meant to asses clarity and precision. That's what their shows are for. Drumline battles are for show. There is a reason there are a ton of people watching. Yes it has to be clean but you want a group that the crowd loves.

[@EricZeBaws]

I wish my school hyped our drum offs up this much 😂😂

[@billypeso1625]

Crossmen smashed Jersey Surf. Definitely a bad call

[@Sam-hr2pl]

+Deez Nuts agreed

[@jim13904]

Bragging rights goes to BOTH bands in this competition . Lots of work and practice went into the performance . And it would be great to see the names of both bands involved listed in the Credits . Something those young men & woman could keep and show to their grandchildren in the future and say this was me way back when .

[@tracytanniehill8504]

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[@franzswa]

This is no drum battle. This some rudimental warm ups by corp style drum line.

[@paytonflatt4935]

Seems like jersey surf doesn't seem to care about keeping in step or matching stick heights...

[@teddybrawl]

I found myself bobbing my head to the Crossmen's steps.

[@viroisonline]

there clearly using aimbot

[@conradebanks2224]

lol

[@rafathama]

They're

[@tomhenderson7498]

From a Brit, you guys know how to put on a drum show!! Wow!

[@hohman6]

I agree 100 percent, Crossman's Snare line was uniform, everything sounded better tuned, and their body language also showed better discipline.

[@sdustin7986]

Uniform stick height is everything. You gonna be yelled at. At 7 am when all the other kids are still sleeping. Marching band is Life 101.

[@TopDrumCorps]

Stick height is not everything lmaoo

[@funkywhite]

I thought the JS was decent until the Crossmen began. Oops. Crossmen took it.

[@lifeobserver8079]

OMG, how do you decide???!! Phenomenal!!!

[@csrtitus]

I read the title as, "Crossbowmen vs Jersey Shore." I was disappointed.

[@DL-tv9ed]

Crossmen were definetly better...

[@phoenixknits]

True.

[@aaronvogel1268]

they were. but drumline battles are judged on hype

[@keklordgrey4522]

just the beginning of the "woke" movement.... and our eyes were shut......

[@gunks_getaway]

Don't know the results as I'm typing... Crossmen won. Hands down.

[@yungtwiz]

Thomas Gunkler how did that go for you buddy?

[@pancakepredator8474]

Crossmen. No two ways bout it.

[@apetcovi8232]

Anyone else catch the Jersey Surf cymbal player drop a cymbal when they were done?? JS was just sloppy.

[@seleneraven2399]

Why do Jersey Surf's uniforms look like a bad nightmare circa 1972?

[@samanthabree1246]

Selene Raven Their theme was soul music.

[@mbiggan94]

Crossman were CLEARLY the better line, however the old guys that were also judging based their decision off "crowd reaction" (the Surf Staff) and the flashy bits, no drumming was actually judged lol

[@embrezar]

Dropping your sticks? What is this, Nick Cannon's movie "Drumline?" Come on, guys.

[@DaXXPuniSHeR]

agreed. and im from Jersey. Crossmen are always clean and never dirty. Crossmen won in my book

[@itsyeboiblayt7472]

I was lokey just watching that movie clip lol

[@frankalfar]

Crossmen no contest. Too much robotchicken in Jersey Surf at the end,lol

[@joestreet7567]

embrezar pitch

[@breAnnasmama]

Let me know when they get done warming up and start bringing it haha 😆

[@nevergiveup7639]

Crossmen had some really cool visuals, especially for the cymbals.

[@amthunder1]

Crossmen had it!

[@thegizman2574]

this is the best battle i ever heard and saw as well

[@danielmjr2545]

trumkey3 I was in a start up corps here in San Antonio called the Alamo Marksmen and the Crossmen were one of the feature corps in 1980. Back in the day and I still have that program.

[@GazMic100]

Good lord!!! - Thats hard work and dedication right there!

[@kenjamin90]

And some movie theaters around the country are broadcasting some of the competitions live. It's pretty cool to watch that way if you can't make it live...but I would suggest trying to make a live show.

[@sananto6896]

Jersey's uniforms with the black hats are really cool. Best I have seen in high school. Difficult to choose which played better, each has a distinct sound.

[@chikken_soup]

These two must have influence the creation of the Top Secret Drum Corps

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

How did the quad of FOUR toms turn into SIX?? Love those noisy hats! If band stuff wasn't so HIDEOUSLY expensive (and I have three full drum kits) I'd have a whole set of it!

[@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823]

uasuka well "quad" pretty much says "four," does it not? There didn't used to be six...:)

[@bandgeek2k176]

Crossmen... definitely the Crossmen win. I also like:Pacific Crest, The Academy Drum and Bugle Corps, Santa Clara Vanguard, Madison Scouts, and a couple other i can't think of at the time.

[@billvill61]

Back in the day I was a snare drummer, but for me, it's the medodic basses that kill me. I love how creative the bass parts are. They aren't just a metronome, to me they are the backbone of the piece. Without them, the piece would be empty and boring. Love it! Listen to this without watching it and you'll see what I mean.

[@Humansareanimals.]

Great performance both! Wht alwayss have to win someone?

[@emilymckeon5983]

Representing the amazing musicianship in NJ!! Go Jersey Surf!!!

[@ATDBJProductions]

People are saying that jersey wasn't clean, but they were a hell of a lot better than anything you could get in my high school :P

[@kenjamin90]

Yes they are. During the season. So may-August usually ESPN3

[@SilentBob731]

Wow!!! Awesome stuff...truly worthy of the longstanding tradition of tribal percussion originating around Nigeria hundreds (or thousands) of years ago. These guys could be from Africa...they're so good. "'What is your name?" "I Told You It's... "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS !!!"

[@allypablo007]

Jersey was really good but crossmen were better. Thing is that crossmen's turns were slightly shorter than I thought they should have been.

[@lucasshafer531]

People, the ONLY reason they gave it to us (Surf) is so y'all would flock to the video to watch and argue about it...6.5 million views later I'm sure they don't regret it 😂 Also we played on mylar bottoms all summer and did a full head change that morning...an unfortunate combination for that evening in the dome sound wise 😂 Thanks for watching 🤙

[@Zero-de7ou]

Sounds like an excuse...

[@lucasshafer531]

An excuse for what? Why we won despite playing so poorly, or why our drums sounded so low and terrible? I thought I gave a pretty good e x p l a n a t i o n for both to be honest.

[@lorilesage8088]

Crossmen way better!

[@batman32451]

Oh ho. Crossmen took it, but those bass runs on BOTH sides. Gotta love some bass runs

[@FerreusOpus]

As one of the performers that are in this video, I find it interesting to read all these comments.

[@BlendermanCreations]

I saw quite a bit of upper body movement coming from the tenners while they marked time.

[@marilynoconnell961]

This is very old, very fun to watch though!

[@ZakkWasNotAvailable]

one of the jersey surf's crash cymbals was dropped like twice lmao they definitely deserved to win

[@marksnyder4432]

i seen a battle between Jersey surf and Crossman live and omg amazing!! I was so close to them and just perfect

[@susanm7359]

The senior bands were awesome... husband and I followed Connecticut Hurricanes...

[@nataliemadrigal899]

Im from Texas and its 2024 now. Wonder where you all are now?

[@diegochavezisntmanam]

at 4:26, the snare from jersey surf closest to the camera, messed up and couldn't find a way back in until the end.

[@Jaysen6740]

Not actually. Watch the whole snare line. That are splitting notes like a bass line would do.

[@diegochavezisntmanam]

his facial expression says something different.

[@Jaysen6740]

Erick Veloz I saw no face made. I think you are just trying to not look like you don't know what you are talking about. Anyone who does know what they are talking about can see they were splitting notes across the snareline. It's pretty obvious when they start on the opposite side and play notes one by one down to his side. Not hard to figure out.

[@diegochavezisntmanam]

alright, whatever you say. I will surrender since this fight is pointless. I still think Crossmen should have won though.

[@Jaysen6740]

Yeah...sorry if I sounded like a jerk. Reading it again I definitely did. I agree, it was all crossmen.

[@thundersnare]

Just so people know what this is about,it's not about CLEAN BEATS or how many notes and inverted whatever's you can play.This is FAN based, what the audience deems to be the most ENTERTAINING. DCI has gotten away from entertaining the fans, this is a way to do it and the fans can be involved. Yes, I agree Crossmen technically performed better, but I think the fans went for the stick drops at the end of Surf's 2nd piece and that was ENTERTAINING to the audience. That's what Drum Battle is about!

[@MrRickMancia]

Crossmen were so much tighter and in my opinion should have won. Jersey started with 8ths, ....really?! Jersey was definately more showboatey and I think thats the reason they won because their snares sounded horribly tuned and dirty. P.S. Who ever is in charge of Jersey Surf's wardrobe.... FAIL!

[@shaenbonanno6566]

Crossmen had their fair share of dirt in the snareline. The tenors did seem way tighter, but I liked the bassline on jersey better. Ultimately I agree with the judges' decision.

[@elziramontanare6898]

Boa noite ❣️🌟

[@joephysics5469]

Just an old tuba player here. The Crossmen had my vote.

[@dakotabritton7531]

hornline battles would be absolutely insane

[@piggyz31]

I haven't really seen enough of this drumline battle stuff to judge but imagine Vanguard's drum line against Bluecoats drumline or something like that. That would be a show to watch.

[@brownbear377]

They started with a warm up?!!? Wtf

[@sgtrod]

Crossmen won this in my opinion. They’re a legendary drum corp with not only tradition and class but the technical chops and show presentation that places them perennially at or near the top. I was with the 81 SkyRyders. Never heard of this Jersey group and hated the uniforms but they did put on a good performance.

[@REALjohnmosesbrowning]

On a side note, JS's uniforms are the damn coolest.

[@mpetillo5268]

The Academy, but they are pretty cool

[@JOEX3006]

Wtf !!!!!!!! Where's Devon Miles and the Atlanta A&T drum line ?

[@Cciberia]

Bonito los colores de los bombos,, si incluyen instrumentos de vientos,, wow seria para mi muchisimo mejor.. me gust el video

[@ArchieBC]

That was fixed. Crossmen were locked in tight and had better compositions. Round 2 for NJ, as the corps dropped their sticks, one of the cymbal players accidentally dropped a cymbal. How did they win?

[@alili52]

Very very good. .. but I prefer the Brazilian batucada.

[@jms_wttrs9228]

I voted for "top secret" - I could see and hear them from here.

[@seand763]

jms_ wttrs top secret is amazing

[@fburnrostro95]

For those of you saying Crossmen was not entertaining, they played excerpts from their show. They did not make a routine for the purpose of drumline battle. As for Jersey Surf, I'm not sure.

[@mytubaiscold1]

Why the horn sounds. Why are they in the background? Guess i dont understand the competition show.

[@dkeller20m]

i think they might be building up to it. seems like they are starting with the lower tiered corps and then building up as the season goes. i think this is the first season this is going around, so i think they are trying to start something. i could be wrong. this is the first season im actually following day by day. lol.

[@sergiobarrera6700]

Being a Crossmen fan, DLB isn't about precision, hard music or any of those technicalities, it's about which line can entertain the crowd more. If you need an example look for the Genesis DLB, now they know how it's supposed to be done(:

[@GeneralN0va]

I remember being in the alamodome for band.. good times, good times

[@PoohStickProductions]

Are DCI tounaments ever on TV? And if so approximately when and on what channel?

[@leviboston-kemple9008]

I marched with the Colts for a summer. I love the crisp clean sound of an American drum corp

[@FLS713HTX]

I met all of em they came to my high school right after their performance of Alamo dome to perform at the berry center here in Houston Tx.

[@Lynchpman]

Just as a general comment, people who are saying that corps drummers can't do anything else, two members of the Blue Man Group were in DCI.

[@pockets329]

do we really have to choose it was obviously crossmen