DSLR Vs Mirrorless - Was it worth the upgrade? Canon 6D Vs R6

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After a year with the Canon R6 I see if it was really worth the money. Does the image quality actually rival the original 6D from back in 2012? Can 8 years of technology really improve your photography?
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[@RobertHill]

Funny enough, I have been shooting on a 6D and I love it. I bought an R6 Mk II and an EF-RF adapter today on a whim because of the holiday sales in the US, and I am super excited to try it out. I have a *lot* of super nice EF glass, but I mostly wanted the R6 for autofocus improvements (and they are *stark*), the ability to take far more keeper shots when shooting continuous, and the low light performance. My 6D is awesome though, and I definitely plan to keep using it. I might just park my 50mm f/1.2L lens on it permanently. It is a fantastic portrait camera, and probably still one of the top 3 astrophotography cameras. It *really* punched above it's weight class, and still does 10 years later. My main reason for going with an R6II is because I am taking a train trip through most of California this month, and I really want to take advantage of the body IS while on the train, especially with some fast primes and an IS 70-300 too. My experience with my buddy's R6 with an EF IS lens was phenomenal, even in active situations. It really impressed me.

[@simoncennals]

It's a great upgrade. Unfortunately I just missed out on the Mark 2! But the original R6 is still fantastic. Have fun using it!

[@user-od3di4jf3n]

面白かったです😊 R6は高機能でエンジンも新しく使いやすいですが、かなり高価です 私の場合は星景写真や天体写真しか撮らないので、6Dで十分かなあ

[@sarahneedham]

I can agree about usability being so important. I still use DSLRs, but recently went from an old 5D mk 2 to the 6D mk 2. On paper, both have similar dynamic range but the flip out touch screen of the 6D mk 2 is so lovely to use. Plus it has better live view and auto focus compared to the 5D. I know a mirrorless would probably be even more user friendly, but at a much higher cost so I'm happy to stay DSLR for now. I shoot mostly landscapes also.

[@simoncennals]

The flip out screen makes a huge difference! But image quality wise I wouldn't say you're missing out too much!

[@sarahneedham]

@@simoncennals that's my thought too

[@richmck007]

@@simoncennals And you can always improve in post production shooting in RAW, I found. Love my 6Dii. Lots of haters out there as they want to push Mirrorless it seems…

[@markusi188]

I also have the 6d mark II and just got myself the R6 this week. They are both amazing cameras! Initially I was going to sell the the 6d ii but I decided to keep it as it's such a fantastic beast of a camera. They complement each other so well.

[@gordonraspin3777]

I ❤ my 6d, had it since launch 2012 and the image quality is fantastic especially for low light landscapes, one advantage it has is battery lasts much longer than the mirror less, it also has built in GPS and WiFi, thanks for the video - much appreciated 👍

[@mikesensier3656]

A nice comparison between new and old. I have the R6 after upgrading from the 5Dmkiv, I was alittle worried about the loss of megapixels...but I don't really notice any difference. The R6 is so much more user friendly, faster and more responsive...makes my life easier. I was at Wedge pond last week...don't get the mist but got some lovely clouds, still waters and a beautiful sunrise...that place is very underrated as for mountain backdrops go...awesome comes to mind. Take care from the UK.

[@simoncennals]

Wedge pond is a great spot. I think the 20mp is good for most applications and doesn't fill up hard drives as fast! Unless you want to aggressively crop I don't think there's much to worry about there. Glad you're enjoying the camera too!

[@boredboiseboy]

The r6 has weird colors, I much prefer the 6d..I upgraded my r6 to the r6 mkii and the color rendition is almost as good as the 6d. The 6d really is a beast of a camera, if you don't need the advanced autofocus of the R bodies it's really a hard camera to beat.

[@Gavla13]

Great video 🔥 the 6d is a Astro beast. Alot of astro shooters still swear buy it today 👌. Subbed ☝️🤝

[@simoncennals]

It will stay with me for sure!

[@Gavla13]

@@simoncennals absolutely mate. I miss my 6d.

[@albutt7132]

For Astro it’s unbeatable.

[@hywel3143]

Thanks for this interesting video. I've owned a used 6D for a year or so. I shoot only stills: landscape, nature including macro, street and portrait. Having seen many high res images from Canon mirrorless cameras, my personal opinion is that the 6D has a superior sensor to any of the them. By this I mean that the rendering and colour processing is superior, so that often very little post processing is required. This is particularly noticeable when shooting portraits and certain landscape compositions. I nearly always use the centre focus point on the 6D and then recompose. I understand from owners that the outer focus points on the R6 are better than those one the 6D. I admit that it would be nice to have a tilt screen, and if I were shooting lots of sports and wildlife action then the R6 would be a much better choice than the 6D.

[@simoncennals]

The 6D will see you through a lot of situations for sure. The auto focus is fantastic and would be great for portraits as it will track eyes but it's ease of use you're paying for rather than image quality I'd say. I find it useful having two bodies though and the video functions are much better! Still use the 6D regularly though!

[@wingofwinter888]

6d with dual sd card slot is a perfect camera.

[@billb8262]

6D has better colors. I'm not a Canon shooter but looking at a 6D or 5D II. I went mirrorless from a FF Nikon system and regretted changing. However, my Nikon D750 was incredible in all areas except colors. Blues and greens were awful and I spent a ton of time fixing them in post, which drove me away. Looking at 5D II and 6D, their colors are naturally more realistic than the Nikon. I'm also considering a D700 Nikon, but Canon colors are more punchy, despite the D700 having most other abilities better than the Canons. But output is what I'm after.

[@deeprelaxationmusic4681]

I managed to guess all the photos right, I had 6D and now I have R6 both are awesome cameras. thank you for this video, its very nice,

[@simoncennals]

A great upgrade.

[@kennethtam9779]

Which one is better when mounted on a tripod and swung like a club to bash your way through larch season crowds in the Highwood Pass? 🤔

[@simoncennals]

The 6D for sure. A little more weight to it and that flip out screen on the R6 wouldn't last bring used as a weapon I don't think!

[@tjbalan]

is the weight and size difference between an R6 w/RF lens compared to a 6D and EF lens that noticeable? i will be going to iceland in march and I dont want to carry me bigger backpack and want to attempt a smaller sling, minimalist loadout. I am considering renting an R6 and maybe a lens and adapter for one of my own lenses but if there really isnt that much of a difference i may just stick with my 6d and lenses and try to go the minimal route on loadout with them.

[@simoncennals]

The R6 is a little lighter and a little smaller but with the adapter I'd say it isn't enough of a difference to really worry about. It works flawlessly with the EF lenses though via the adapter. You'd get much better autofocus and video capabilities if you are hoping to capture any wild life and video.

[@axistt]

Very nice review, but I have a question about the dynamic range of JPG files from the camera. Personally, I don't always shoot in raw mode and I'm curious if the greater dynamic range of the R6 sensor also translates into greater dynamic range in the camera's JPG files in the case of the R6 vs 6D body (I mean more detail in highlights and shadows in 8-bit JPG files).

[@simoncennals]

Hey thanks for watching! You make an interesting point. However I've actually never shot a jpg on my R6. I very much recommend shooting raw to get the best out of any camera. Then you can just do some small adjustments like shadows and highlights to gain more detail.

[@axistt]

Thank you for your answer. I am quite an experienced photographer (not to be confused with an outstanding one ;)) and of course, if I plan to process a photo, I do it in raw mode. I try not to take photos with my phone, so even on family holidays I take a photo backpack with me, only then I take photos in jpg format, because apart from a few planned exceptions, I do not plan to process them. Hence my question about comparing JPG files from both cameras.@@simoncennals

[@solidstate99]

Which camera are you using to capture your video? i was there on Oct 1

[@simoncennals]

Hey mate, this video is filmed mainly with a GoPro but most the time I use my R6. A bit of B roll in this video is shot with the R6 too

[@solidstate99]

@@simoncennals Thanks Simon great video and well done subject, I still use a 6D (actually 2 6d) and an EOSR both great cameras, the video capability of the Mirrorless truly beats the older units.

[@richmck007]

I am curious. Why was the 6 d ii overlooked for the 6d. Versus the R6..? Is there no place in this comparison..? How does it rate? I cannot seem to find anyone who compared the 3 together. It’s as if it does not exist. As if to say if the R6 had not been introduced, then the 6d would be the all to end all and the 6d ii not worthy of a mention…

[@simoncennals]

From my understanding the 6D mark ii was actually rumoured to have a slightly worse sensor when it came to low light photography. I compared but improved autofocus and usability a littler. These two as I own them and they are the first generation of EOS 6D and EOS R6! Personally I feel like now there isn't much reason to not upgrade to a mirrorless camera as that's the way you get the most notable improvements in auto focus, stabilisation etc.

[@markusi188]

I don't think the newer mirrorless bodies are designed to have "better" image quality. Image quality should, more or less, be the same logically. I think the only reason why one should consider switching or adding a mirrorless body is for practicality, mainly AF and speed. I never expected better image quality, but I like my R6 on top of my 6D ii which I love, because of it's Eye tracking and two cards slot.

[@riedelpedrosa2934]

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[@suttikarn043]

if I only do landscape, I wouldn´t bother to upgrade. The 6D is more than enough

[@simoncennals]

I'd agree with you there. Although the tracking focus is fantastic if you want to shoot yourself in the scene. And the flip out screen is a great addition

[@deanvm9158]

Not a whole lot of difference.

[@simoncennals]

Definitely not when it comes to the end result.

[@kamilpotato3764]

@@simoncennals Only when you nail exposure. 6d dynamic range is atrocious. I still got 6d but rarely use it. Even my Xt4 with smaller sensor beats it in autofocus and dynamic range. In 6d only the central point of autofocus is usable. Additionally, lens calibration process is a big downside of all DSLR cameras. One thing that I absolutely love in my ageing 6D is colour science.

[@simoncennals]

@@kamilpotato3764 certainly not as good for autofocus.

[@dayfornight88]

You screwed up by not cropping the 6d .

[@simoncennals]

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[@albutt7132]

Nice video. I take it the focus stack was done external software on both?

[@simoncennals]

Would have been done in post. You can set the R6 to shoot a set of images and different focus points automatically but you'll still have to combine them in post.