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Dual Engine Failure during Climb-out on Airbus A320: Baltic Aviation Academy

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11 жыл бұрын

www.balticaa.com This week Pranas Drulis, ATPL Integrated students at Baltic Aviation Academy (Vilnius, Lithuania), shows how to land safely during situation as dual engine failure during climb-out on Airbus A320.

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@stingreen
@stingreen 8 жыл бұрын
lesson learned. If you ever have both engines failed before reaching 2000 feet, slowly whisper to the microphone for blackbox to record; "Mommy I love you"
@jairox75
@jairox75 8 жыл бұрын
+Serhan Sevim There are other ways ,he could save the ship
@EliasOwnage95
@EliasOwnage95 8 жыл бұрын
+Serhan Sevim LOL or hope for a good landing on some field :D
@TheLifeofAdamOnYoutube
@TheLifeofAdamOnYoutube 8 жыл бұрын
Or land in the sea in front of you and begin to sail a boat instead 😁
@Sparta1314
@Sparta1314 8 жыл бұрын
rofl you just made my day 😂
@balto2455
@balto2455 7 жыл бұрын
before reaching 2500 ft
@jeopardy60611
@jeopardy60611 8 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe you have not taken into account the human factor. This was a dual-engine loss at 2500 feet, followed by an immediate water landing with 155 souls on board. No one said you are going to lose both engines at an altitude lower than any jet in history, but be cool, head back for LaGuardia like you're picking up the milk. No one has ever trained for an incident like that--no one, ever!
@Hoggiee
@Hoggiee 7 жыл бұрын
35 seconds
@jeopardy60611
@jeopardy60611 7 жыл бұрын
You probably know that anyone who searches out this video watched the Sully movie. When the NTSB investigated the Hudson incident, they didn't take reaction time into account at first, so it was possible to land safely only because the simulation was planned out. In reality, in an unplanned emergency situation, the reaction time made it impossible to land at a runway safely when the plane was at such a low altitude to start with.
@Hoggiee
@Hoggiee 7 жыл бұрын
haha! yeah! saw that movie yesterday, Tom hanks and Aaron Eckhart did amazing, loved the "Does anyone need to see more simulations?" after adding 35 seconds reaction time
@jeopardy60611
@jeopardy60611 7 жыл бұрын
I have read articles suggesting that they do not interview pilots in a cross-examination style as if they assume the pilot is automatically guilty.
@albertsonspainfamily5847
@albertsonspainfamily5847 7 жыл бұрын
...But I bet you do it in FSX all the time.
@nikkocnn
@nikkocnn 11 жыл бұрын
Look at the ECAM at 4:44 "Doors not closed" :D
@FlywithDat
@FlywithDat 4 жыл бұрын
MultiMischer It’s landing gear doors not closed.
@noel12397
@noel12397 4 жыл бұрын
L/G Doors not closed means the landing gear doos are not closed, L/G stands for Landing gear
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 3 жыл бұрын
That creates more drag. And cuts the glide distance..
@hadhamalnam
@hadhamalnam 3 жыл бұрын
@@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 Well he's on the runway, i'm pretty sure a little drag is better than having closed gear on the runway.
@ayouberrazki5602
@ayouberrazki5602 2 ай бұрын
​@@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 a pilot without critical thinking is a danger to himself and others
@SirijusS
@SirijusS 11 жыл бұрын
Dear Richy, this video is meant to show "what is (almost) the lowest height from which you can return" :) In the case of flight 1549, what could have happened remains what could have happened. I am very happy that they survived, how they survived, even though it was a very difficult situation and good job by the crew, is not so important!
@davelloyd9079
@davelloyd9079 8 жыл бұрын
man, this is interesting as hell. haha. great job, young pilot! I'm just a regular Joe in the US who was surfing KZbin and came across this. I'm fascinated with how precisely pilots handle emergencies like this. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE an opportunity to try and fly a commercial simulator just once in my life. I watched THIS young man/pilot handle this flame out emergency so calm and reactive, it just really made me grin and feel better about flying in general! again, outstanding job, young man!
@IntellectualHazard
@IntellectualHazard 6 жыл бұрын
Dave Lloyd let me make flying better for you too
@stuartsmeets3346
@stuartsmeets3346 5 жыл бұрын
It's all good to be calm and collected when you are EXPECTING a dual engine failure I a simulator . I would imagine it would be a bit more stressful in the cockpit.if this happened unexpectedly in real life. Great video though
@zyxyuv1650
@zyxyuv1650 5 жыл бұрын
You can do flame out landings on your own computer with X Plane or MSF using your flight stick controller. If that's not good enough for you because you're so shallow that you need to inflate yourself with special feelings of importance by touching physical buttons in a commercial cockpit *otherwise you refuse to learn because it's not special enough for your special feelings,* well then you fail.
@rossarmstrong6731
@rossarmstrong6731 10 жыл бұрын
I love the noise and acceleration of an A320.. Awesome.
@ImranQureshi-mf2gc
@ImranQureshi-mf2gc 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah especially the sound when the gear retracts.
@Demetris.Michael_CyprusUSA
@Demetris.Michael_CyprusUSA 11 жыл бұрын
one question. After the engines failure as usual you lost all of your power in electrical and hydraulic systems and counted on the ram air turbine. Why didn't you turn on the APU for power?
@waynefarrell9804
@waynefarrell9804 8 жыл бұрын
Now do it at Innsbruck :)
@Vanadeo
@Vanadeo 8 жыл бұрын
+Wayne Farrell Lukla xD
@talktomeaboutlife
@talktomeaboutlife 8 жыл бұрын
+Vanadeo No in an A320 you're not :P I don't even wanna think about trying to do this in a twin prop with a double engine failure at Lukla, let alone a jet.
@concorde9433
@concorde9433 8 жыл бұрын
+talktomeaboutlife Do you know what "joke" means?
@talktomeaboutlife
@talktomeaboutlife 8 жыл бұрын
Dale Wei-Yen Wong I do. Do you?
@Vanadeo
@Vanadeo 8 жыл бұрын
talktomeaboutlife I do do, you do do, and I think he do do too. Diddy didnt do though. xD hahaha
@jamesthornton1867
@jamesthornton1867 8 жыл бұрын
did you figure the landing gear drag to the first landing why didn't you wait longer
@YeshuaAgapao
@YeshuaAgapao 11 жыл бұрын
You might be able to pull off 2000ft if you delay gear extension as long as possible. Extended landing gear makes a lot of drag. They may let you dump fuel too to lighten the load.
@Bersekker0
@Bersekker0 2 жыл бұрын
No fuel dump in a320
@sincerelovechild
@sincerelovechild 2 жыл бұрын
Loss of engine is also equal to loss of momentum. In the case of dual engine failure on a twin engine airplane below 20hundred feet while holding a pitch of 10°-15° and below 250 knots, the forward momentum will be consumed quite quickly. I think the initial response of any pilot will be to quickly push forward, gear up, reduce flaps, switch on Apu, bank away from turrain, and quickly look for any place where there is little to no traffic or population to set that bird down. A 180° turn will take away a lot of momentum and require nose down action to avoid stall speeds and subsequently consume the little altitude left. In my personal opinion, I think all airfields should have a zone beyond the airfield to account for these types of snarios, but the fact that these incidents are so few and far in between means no organization will want to put out the amount to prep for it
@raymondlantz9278
@raymondlantz9278 Жыл бұрын
@@sincerelovechild I like the idea of turning on the apu instead of the ram air turbine...
@Tjita1
@Tjita1 3 жыл бұрын
An MD-81 lost both engines at 3200 feet after departure from Arlanda, Stockholm, Sweden, after ice broke off of the wings and was ingested into the engines. Never for the briefest of moments was it on the pilots minds to return to the airport, they set it down in a clearing down range, and everyone on board made it. Had they started making sharp turns at low speed and low altitude, the most likely outcome is that noone had made it.
@jeopardy60611
@jeopardy60611 Жыл бұрын
The difference here between this incident and the Hudson River one is that there was a clearing within range. There is no open land in New York City, other than the airports, so the only safe option was to land in the Hudson.
@KarthikNakul
@KarthikNakul 7 жыл бұрын
why dint he switch on the APU?
@hugokasprowicz200
@hugokasprowicz200 7 жыл бұрын
+Maffu Taffu yes but APU is good too and after you have more screen and it is safe
@henrychan720
@henrychan720 7 жыл бұрын
cause it takes like an entire minute to get the APU up and running. By that time he is already on the ground.
@hugokasprowicz200
@hugokasprowicz200 7 жыл бұрын
+Henry Chan yes but he can try to start it
@NoJebediah
@NoJebediah 7 жыл бұрын
APU is non-essential. He had power from the RAT and the ability to fly the aircraft. There's no point trying to get systems up and operational if it puts the aircraft at a higher risk.
@IntellectualHazard
@IntellectualHazard 6 жыл бұрын
Karthik Nakul the RAT did the work
@SirijusS
@SirijusS 11 жыл бұрын
Jacob, the hydraulics are very much there, the difference is that pilot input is converted into electronic signal and then to hydraulic actuators, instead of a more direct linkeage
@Tuppoo94
@Tuppoo94 11 жыл бұрын
It takes time to start a gas turbine engine. They don't start in a few seconds like a piston engine. And if there was for example a bird strike the engine could be damaged to the point of it being unusable, as it was with the Hudson Miracle.
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 3 жыл бұрын
This is a Question Mark Turnback from 2,500 agl on A320. Landed safely. Great pilot. No copilot needed either. I teach Question Mark Turbacks on singles and multies from 700 agl to 1,200 agl depending on airplane, weight and winds on specific take off.
@syitiger9072
@syitiger9072 2 жыл бұрын
So what if they hit birds at 200 ago?
@matthewschneider123
@matthewschneider123 11 жыл бұрын
Its not the electricity that is the issue, the APU just provides a little trust, which may be the difference between landing on a runway and crashing 15 feet from it
@JohnSmith-hn6kv
@JohnSmith-hn6kv 7 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on saving the crew and passengers! Would there be another plane on the runway at a busy airport?
@mryasser
@mryasser 11 жыл бұрын
APU supplies only electrical and pneumatic systems .. In this situation he used the batteries for the instruments and deployed the RAT for hydraulic which were essential in this situation.
@jefftreseder4358
@jefftreseder4358 8 жыл бұрын
YOU DA MAN, Pranas! Lemme buy you a pint
@LgMFS-Productions
@LgMFS-Productions 4 күн бұрын
What I learned today, dual engine failure at FL 020 = say yes to heaven
@ElitistMagi
@ElitistMagi 3 жыл бұрын
You started turning back before the emergency power even kicked in lol
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 3 жыл бұрын
why wait while going away from airport. Turn like a man will do instead of freezing on controls..
@Jamenator1
@Jamenator1 11 жыл бұрын
But, unlike most other large airliners, if you lose all hydraulics on a 737 the pilot can still control the jet through manual reversion, although it takes alot of physical effort. You can still operate most of the primary flight control surfaces because they are still mechanicaly connected to the flight controls. Its very similar to power steering in a car, lose the power steering and the controls are heavy, but still controllable
@craigduncan4826
@craigduncan4826 2 жыл бұрын
Scary when I think that in my day during transatlantic flights, just after dinner was served, kids like this would actually fly the plane. Now I know why they stopped it “I have no energy” along with the whole crashing- Go To Your Room!
@TK-mh8dn
@TK-mh8dn 3 жыл бұрын
wouldnt you start the apu first instead of relying on the ram ?
@eduardoFreites
@eduardoFreites 10 жыл бұрын
Estos vídeos lo único que hacen es hacerme querer mas la aviación... Algún día Eduardo algún día...
@tristantechnologies4273
@tristantechnologies4273 7 жыл бұрын
how come he cant just turn the apu on?
@rogerhylton3616
@rogerhylton3616 8 жыл бұрын
Why don't you turn on the APU during a duel engine failure to provide backup power? That is US Airways Flight 1549 did.
@chrisalister2297
@chrisalister2297 8 жыл бұрын
Only one pilot. Normally, there would be a co-pilot to share in the task load. Perhaps there was another reason for no APU in this example.
@user-xs5gb9fb7t
@user-xs5gb9fb7t 7 жыл бұрын
Roger Hylton The APU takes about a minute to start and power the aircraft. He would be dead or on the ground.
@rogerhylton3616
@rogerhylton3616 7 жыл бұрын
He was in the air for a lot longer than 60 seconds, providing him with more than enough time to start the APU.
@IndianArma
@IndianArma 6 жыл бұрын
He had power from the ram engine turbine
@Atanasovsky
@Atanasovsky 10 жыл бұрын
Why dont you started the APU and used the Gravity Gear Extension ? PS Good Video
@thorvonwalhalla9798
@thorvonwalhalla9798 10 жыл бұрын
I think eh didnt had the Time to do that.Cause eh is alone in the Cockpit.
@Roytulin
@Roytulin 9 жыл бұрын
Good call, in a real cockpit he should have, but he probably didn't have time to do that.
@zebbazebadee5006
@zebbazebadee5006 9 жыл бұрын
Lisvenachux Roytulin is that not a rather pointless video then? Seeing as a320 is a 2 manned plane. Helpful for a simulator but seriously doubt one person would be taking off in this plane in real life. Still appreciated the vid, but would limit the necessary education if the above answer is correct... Then again, me no know :)
@manualflight
@manualflight 9 жыл бұрын
zebba zebadee it also depends on the weight (amount of fuel, passengers, and cargo) of the aircraft, wind and more...
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 3 жыл бұрын
At 165 knots Turnback, it is better to have some flaps and slats. At least flaps 1. I think you have then on Flaps 1. The lower the speed, the lower the flaps used. Normal flight laws.. You know how to do hard maneuvers on take off. And you were also turning around 40 degrees bank to Turnback. Very good.. You dont turn 30 degrees only. Waste of time and altitude. i bet he was flying gliders in the summer.. Single Pilot Turnback to opposite from 2,500 B737. Great job to save them all, future captain..
@fat2fit691
@fat2fit691 11 жыл бұрын
Ram air turbine is a small electrical generator that is deployed into the airstream to supply a small amount of power to the aircraft systems during a emergency
@ctdesing
@ctdesing 11 жыл бұрын
i don't understand what you are referring to, but that simulation featured the loss of Green and Yellow systems situation. On the a320 a loss of all hydraulics situation is unlikely to happen as the Blue system is powered by the RAT.
@charlieparks5840
@charlieparks5840 5 жыл бұрын
APU would have been a good bet instead of losing power but you're the Captain, Captain.
@bharathrossi
@bharathrossi 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you turn on the APU?
@jonnyb1963
@jonnyb1963 11 жыл бұрын
@richygambs321 He did say that he was going to experiment and see what the minimum altitude would be to return to the runway. And also this is not meant for training purposes, The first one @2000 was a crash! So he did it again @ 2,500 just to demonstrate what it would take to be able to return to the airport. I'm certain that he is aware that engine outs are a surprise! It's nice to see things like this however just to know exactly how far you can push the envelope if you absolutely had to
@kyrigeorgiou8528
@kyrigeorgiou8528 8 жыл бұрын
Love to have this in my game room for practicing. Best job in the world
@NFreund
@NFreund 11 жыл бұрын
no, he probably could not have made it (regarding captain sully). And yes, he anticipated it, as should every pilot on start. And most of the time you can't turn straight,because most of the time there are obstacles in the way, wich you absolutely don't want to hit, like a town, trees or something like that
@roxguy115
@roxguy115 3 жыл бұрын
Academy:" what would you do in that situation" Me : *fart*
@giodc8599
@giodc8599 8 жыл бұрын
In this case you knew the engines would fail so of course you can readily react to the situation. Would a real case scenario need longer for you to assess and address the situation?
@bobalobalie
@bobalobalie 8 жыл бұрын
+Giovanni Di Cello Pilots are trained to act accordingly. The second the pilot heard the noise of dual engine they would have started the turn immediately. So maybe an additional 5 seconds for the pilot to look down and see dual engine flame out then turn.
@MillionFoul
@MillionFoul 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobalobalie This has actually happened before on two occasions and in both there is no evidence the pilots reacted as quickly as you are suggesting. In one it took about thirty seconds for the pilots to determine a definite course of action, and in the other they were so close to the ground landing the plane immediately off field was the only option.
@jimmy2times
@jimmy2times 4 жыл бұрын
Did you make a 180 to come back and land on the same runway the opposite way?
@tucstwo
@tucstwo 7 жыл бұрын
Capt Sully says: "We can't make it. We may end up in The Hudson".
@AndyArmstrong88
@AndyArmstrong88 8 жыл бұрын
How come there wasn't a sink rate alarm?
@FranciscoKurpiel
@FranciscoKurpiel 11 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Extreme stuff. Didn't got why stay on RAT only thorough. APU would be handy on this case.
@ADIRU22
@ADIRU22 10 ай бұрын
Pranas is the new Sully
@fadyaboulghit
@fadyaboulghit 10 жыл бұрын
Baltic Aviation Academy correct me if im wrong.. but at this situation, would you consider turning on the apu a good or a bad thing? to my knowledge.. turning the apu would provide emergency power if the batteries were to be damaged or depleted.. in addition, the apu's power will produce a pressure differential near the engines just enough to rotate the turbines a little bit :P making it easier for the pilot "pranas" to maneuver the plane.:P
@IanBorgessen
@IanBorgessen 10 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are right. But take into acount that APU takes some time to start up, and, as he was flying solo, he probably didnt have time (or enough hands :P) to do it.
@fadyaboulghit
@fadyaboulghit 10 жыл бұрын
Boris D ur right XD ..
@murderblade7
@murderblade7 9 жыл бұрын
by the time the APU is started, hes already back on the RWY
@azizc64
@azizc64 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pranas, i would like you to make some other interesting videos, such a 737 and 320 driftdown procedures as well the depresurization and emergency descents. Greetings from Mexico!!
@jameshall8002
@jameshall8002 9 жыл бұрын
Good video. Enjoyable to watch
@Casen87
@Casen87 10 жыл бұрын
Why not restart the API on glide back to get some hydraulic pressure for air brakes? Or extend the spoilers on touchdown?
11 жыл бұрын
A loss of hydraulic systems is always unlikely without any external cause of damage, which can happen to any plane. Let it be a terrorist, an engine falling apart or a fatal decompression, if those things happen it doesn't matter if you are on a Boeing or an Airbus. For example, just a few month ago an Air Berlin A330 crew needed to perform an emergency landing in Phuket because of an uncontained engine failure resulting in loss of hydraulics, it was quite near-catastrophic.
@cosmicmessenger5573
@cosmicmessenger5573 6 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to note how much height a fully laden A320 loses in a 180 degree turn.
@iillyyaa777
@iillyyaa777 11 жыл бұрын
Wow! A Nice landing second time!
@steaksaretasty
@steaksaretasty 11 жыл бұрын
I heard that if engines flamed out shortly after takeoff, it is a good idea to land in the Hudson.
@crystalclear7799
@crystalclear7799 4 жыл бұрын
Sully: Can we all got serious right now?
@Superflow66
@Superflow66 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video what if the wing flaps fail and the engines are fine?
@mryasser
@mryasser 11 жыл бұрын
Plus at the time the APU will be relyable .. He would be already on ground .. It takes time to start .. Around 4 minutes
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 3 жыл бұрын
That is bullshit..
@matthewolivier2883
@matthewolivier2883 5 жыл бұрын
I would have lowered the gear just before touching down to reduce drag
@nwalaallen4507
@nwalaallen4507 Жыл бұрын
Please I want to be a pilot please give me a link am from Nigeria
@abelantonioleonfeliz9471
@abelantonioleonfeliz9471 8 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't he turned on the APU? Would have provided electrics Hyd pressure and pneumatics
@jairox75
@jairox75 8 жыл бұрын
+Abel Antonio León Féliz Airbus use Ram Air Turbine
@jedwards747
@jedwards747 10 жыл бұрын
Hi! I know this may seem like an odd question, but what is the music you used at the end of the video? Thanks!
@Appiann
@Appiann 11 жыл бұрын
Good job! Thanks for answering my question. Отлично сработано! Спасибо, что ответили на мой вопрос.
@mushthepig
@mushthepig 9 жыл бұрын
What are the two wheels with black and white bars that spin? They are located near the thrust levers. Great videos, by the way. I'm not a pilot but I've enjoyed watching these to learn what goes on in the cockpit.
@davorsusa9351
@davorsusa9351 9 жыл бұрын
That's trimmable horizontal stabilizer (THS). It is usually automatically adjusted.
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 3 жыл бұрын
No HUMAN ERROR factor. Because pilots are not supposed to make such wimpy errors.. He did good. A Question Mark Shaped Turnback from 2,500 agl. No copilot needed either..
@Snktr045
@Snktr045 4 жыл бұрын
Aside the dual engine fail you have a pilot incapacitation.. or is the single pilot future plane?
@kralc93
@kralc93 11 жыл бұрын
but he mentioned about the ram air turbine being turned on. isn't not enough to give electricity?
@mewantbrains
@mewantbrains 8 жыл бұрын
Failure to start the APU would have cost you a few points if this was a real training lesson as would failure to call ATC Also I just thought of something with the cockpit design of the Airbus A320 What would be the course of action if both pilots were left handed or both were right handed since the side stick cannot be moved? Wouldn't it be unsafe for a pilot to attempt to fly the plane with his/her non dominant hand?
@felix_d5412
@felix_d5412 8 жыл бұрын
+mewantbrains A pilot in the left seat, regardless of his dominant hand and regardless if the airplane has a sidestick or a yoke, has to be able to control the yoke/sidestick with his left hand because with the right hand he controls the throttle. And also the other way around of course.
@jairox75
@jairox75 8 жыл бұрын
+mewantbrains He did use the RAM Air Turbine
@alanwong402
@alanwong402 8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Yep, as Daniel said, just imagine the side stick between the pilots legs and it is literally no different to a yoke apart from a different design. It is just further to the sides, but the throttle is still to the right of the captain and the left of the copilot. Just a bit further distance between the side stick and the throttle than the yoke to the throttle. You still use the same hands for controlling the throttle and side stick/yoke in an Airbus and Boeing.
@mewantbrains
@mewantbrains 8 жыл бұрын
I just figured that it would be very difficult to fly with your non dominant hand I tried flying with my left hand in FSX and I crashed everytime I tried to land
@alanwong402
@alanwong402 8 жыл бұрын
Well, Practice makes perfect! :)
@perfectflight777
@perfectflight777 11 жыл бұрын
Why not switch on the APU .. So that we might have the hydraulic power to stop the plane by powering the braking system
@outermarker
@outermarker 11 жыл бұрын
You can neither dump fuel in the A320 nor in the 737.
@captainalpha4853
@captainalpha4853 8 жыл бұрын
is it possible for students pilots who study at BAA to reach their 1500HRS by type rating ( after took their ATPL ) ?
@haso0on2012
@haso0on2012 7 жыл бұрын
I want you cap to show us dual engine failure after airborne , and thank you for this information
@LeorentKelmendi
@LeorentKelmendi 5 жыл бұрын
Hassan_ 747 thats not much to show tho, plumitting to the groung
@theaustrianguy5711
@theaustrianguy5711 4 жыл бұрын
Wow the second time you were really coming in hot...nice one
@Bugy34
@Bugy34 10 жыл бұрын
why you did not start APU ??
@tonymind308
@tonymind308 4 жыл бұрын
Drag you need minimize drag,
@zak00101
@zak00101 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe the training must include some sort of drug that make your adrenaline goes up to recreate your internal body state in that kind of real life situations.
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 3 жыл бұрын
Fenthonol, cocaine, 4 cups of coffee before the section?? The threat of losing your career if you fuck up in front of instructors is enough. But some pilots are liked and get priviledges to try a second time if they mess up. There should be only one chance. Thats it..
@sabinhong0307
@sabinhong0307 2 жыл бұрын
@@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 are they that harsh?? omg I thought it was just a training session
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 2 жыл бұрын
@@sabinhong0307 The first sentence was a joke only. You cannot do that..
@astachr680
@astachr680 11 жыл бұрын
Great lesson!
@nwalaallen4507
@nwalaallen4507 Жыл бұрын
Please I want to become a pilot please give me link am from Nigerian
@SLOPPY1001
@SLOPPY1001 8 жыл бұрын
wow thats amazing. one slight observation, I noticed he ducks closer to the front windows to get a better view of the runway but since the simulation is only a projected image would he infact be able to see further round? Thanks again and Yeh I hope nobody's ever in that situation but nice to know there's still a procedure in that event.
@olivercairns7555
@olivercairns7555 8 жыл бұрын
+SLOPPY1001 i believe that the image is projected onto a screen in front of the cockpit windows, to give the pilots a better impression of 3d space when they move around in the cockpit
@SLOPPY1001
@SLOPPY1001 8 жыл бұрын
+Oliver Cairns ah cool many thanks for the reply
@GGSTop
@GGSTop 11 жыл бұрын
Very educative, cheers.
@cpy
@cpy 11 жыл бұрын
Did you have to engage the APU?
@alessandrobertolotti8757
@alessandrobertolotti8757 8 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why you didn't try to start the APU. It would take some time to get started, but al least you'd have a little bit of energy when the RAM stops spinning
@MauritsVeen
@MauritsVeen 8 жыл бұрын
And you have all your hydraulics and electronics back
@concorde9433
@concorde9433 8 жыл бұрын
+Chuan Shuo Chen He clearly has enough time
@averageOJenjoyer
@averageOJenjoyer 6 жыл бұрын
He had a ram air turbine
@VergiliarEcaros
@VergiliarEcaros 2 жыл бұрын
Wew, workload not permit, he have to focus on flying the bird
@alessandrobertolotti8757
@alessandrobertolotti8757 2 жыл бұрын
@@VergiliarEcaros Now that I'm starting the MCC training I see how this could be a problem lol Especially in this occasion where he is in single pilot
@heroknaderi
@heroknaderi 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@Qantas94Heavy
@Qantas94Heavy 11 жыл бұрын
When landing gear is gravity extended doors do not close.
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 3 жыл бұрын
04:44 Landing gear doors opened. = More drag. The first turn has to be steeper. Like for that airplane, say 40 degrees of bank, not 30 only. Shallow turns extend the radious of turning away from the airport..
@andyturbo
@andyturbo 3 жыл бұрын
No dont bank over 30°.. the drag on a 40° turn is significantly more than a 30°. Over compensating for the extra distance.
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 3 жыл бұрын
@@andyturbo - Nope. I teach those Turnbacks for real to a real runway, not just simulated. You have to turn 40-45 degrees to avoid using a lot of room and altitude on a shallower turn. Do you teach those Turnbacks for many years or not?? I have videos from 15 years ago and had to do them for real and avoided crashing on houses..
@andyturbo
@andyturbo 3 жыл бұрын
@@outwiththem Hey mate thanks for the reply. Im interested in sharing both our ways of how we were taught and comparing with a non biased approach to see our thoughts in the interest of safety. *My* CFI drilled the process i mentioned however this was regarding a single engine PA-28 suffering a engine failure at around 1500ft on the climb out. He said the 40° bank turn is actually nicknamed the turn of death (as it has been responsible for a few student pilots crashing when panicking during a single prop engine out at 1500ft. Perhaps this doesnt become a Factor when dealing with a dual engine flamout of a airliner? I would love to hear your imput. Cheers mate
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 3 жыл бұрын
@@andyturbo I learned then in 1996 from the only CFI I found in eastern USA teaching what they call now EFATO. He has a video from 1995 doing 4 kinds of EFATO. From 50 feet agl 2 kinds and landing on runway again. and 2 kinds of Turnbacks to opposite. From 500 agl partial power and 700 agl no power. We were using a runway of 4,500 feet total length surrounded by houses in New Jersey. Yes, Cherokee PA28 150 hp only. That CFI is a coward FOS if he cannot turn 45 degree bank glide from say 700 agl. We did them many times, and at night too from 700 agl with houses under us. My 1996 CFI retired but last month he put a channel on you tube with the 3 kinds of turnbacks, including the Canyon Turnback. Check it out. channel is EmergencyTakeoffAirplaneTurnbacks. Im subscribed to it.
@andyturbo
@andyturbo 3 жыл бұрын
@@outwiththem Mate thank you so much for sharing that. Seriously. I am currently CPL licenced doing both twin and command IR endorsements. I will actually call someone at the Civil Aviation Safety Authority and ask to speak to the cheif of pilot regulations and training. I want to run it by them a independent from my flying schook as well as being a regulator. If what your saying is correct (and i believe you) I feel in the public safety he should be removed as a CFI who has authority on a lot of things. Basic things like this in training has to be 100%. Thank you again mate.
@laurenevans6472
@laurenevans6472 6 жыл бұрын
I was paused the video and it was at 4:20 yaaaaa!!! Lol
@akhilvijay8670
@akhilvijay8670 4 жыл бұрын
Will the hydrolic works when both engines failed.? I tries in my FSX Aerosoft A320 sim, At that time I couldn't control and crashed.
@jinugopan632
@jinugopan632 4 жыл бұрын
In case of both engine failure only B HYD system will work with the help of RAT, both Y & G HYD SYS will be INOP ..with Blue HYD SYS we can control A/C
@tomstravels520
@tomstravels520 3 жыл бұрын
Jinu Gopan however if you have time to get APU running you can use the yellow elec pump
@DEJA2216
@DEJA2216 8 жыл бұрын
where do we see the v1 ???
@dufonrafal
@dufonrafal 11 жыл бұрын
Why you don't turn on the APU?
@adrianprego6253
@adrianprego6253 11 жыл бұрын
why you dont turn on the APU?
@KotLata737
@KotLata737 11 жыл бұрын
Can you try to land with broken joystick?
@meerkatandpug
@meerkatandpug 8 жыл бұрын
I understand this is a simulator, and a demo for KZbin, but you should also factor in the time it would take to communicate with ATC. You can't simply fly back and land on a runway, irregardless of your predicament. Very dangerous!
@Codbeaster1000
@Codbeaster1000 8 жыл бұрын
He said "notify ATC" which represents a real scenario
@zak00101
@zak00101 7 жыл бұрын
John Smith Atc notification is a task of FO in this scenario.
@matthewschneider123
@matthewschneider123 11 жыл бұрын
Start the APU as soon as possible to try to get as much extra thrust as you can after flameout? or were you assuming APU unsuccessful? might have been able to make 2000 feet if you has a co-pilot
@Sabrevicious
@Sabrevicious 9 жыл бұрын
Pucker factor 9/10
@adrianprego6253
@adrianprego6253 11 жыл бұрын
whats is the ram air turbine?
@perfectflight777
@perfectflight777 11 жыл бұрын
Use the electric to control braking system by power the hydraulic
@pilotactor777
@pilotactor777 5 жыл бұрын
are you turning to a crosswind runway or back towards a parallel runway. I see you dont do teardrop turn or such like-? 35 seconds to drop the gear??
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 3 жыл бұрын
Question Mark Turnback to opposite runway..
@rakeshbhattarai518
@rakeshbhattarai518 5 жыл бұрын
Don't you have the simulator of a380??
@thomasevans9051
@thomasevans9051 5 жыл бұрын
He should've waited around 30 seconds for the human factor, no pilot after dual engine loss would turn immediately to the runway. As a result he would have not made the runway at 2000ft.
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350
@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 3 жыл бұрын
BS. Pilots are supposed to Aviate, then Navigate, you navigate to the runway closest if no power on and you are not too low. 3,000 agl, he should know that airplane could glide back to airport Power Dependant Pilot. from 3,000 agl you head back to runway, Not a river or another state, or BS ditching on a 19 degree farenheit day....
@ifly7777
@ifly7777 8 жыл бұрын
How do you still manage to have control? I set both engine failure and then the controls won't move.
@anything1sg
@anything1sg 7 жыл бұрын
because your PC sim is not the real aircraft/not modelled properly. The onboard battery can still run some basic things like the screen, but the RAT and APU are needed to have controls.
@SirijusS
@SirijusS 11 жыл бұрын
This is SOPs, some companies like it one way, some companies like it the other
@xplane11pilot82
@xplane11pilot82 4 жыл бұрын
Just he land with the Ram Air Turbine ? Whats about the APU
@tomstravels520
@tomstravels520 3 жыл бұрын
APU takes time to start. RAT is almost immediate
@caioqwerty1
@caioqwerty1 9 жыл бұрын
Now, try it in real life during an IFR departure at Innsbruck...
@13hangloose13
@13hangloose13 9 жыл бұрын
Ja genau. Bei Schnee und full house.....
@divyanshumehta9229
@divyanshumehta9229 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you switch the APU on??????????
@tomstravels520
@tomstravels520 4 жыл бұрын
Divyanshu Mehta APU doesn’t start immediately. It takes a couple of mins
@minecraftcucezar7119
@minecraftcucezar7119 7 жыл бұрын
Why happen dual engine failtures?
@aperture147
@aperture147 3 жыл бұрын
Engine failure in real life: “mommy i love you, sorry for not closing the fridge”
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 3 жыл бұрын
Stupid coward. You do the turnback. Coward..
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