Dualtron Duel! Three Affordable Dualtron e-scooters Tested! Togo, Mini Special and Popular

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@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
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@jagerbomb81
@jagerbomb81 5 ай бұрын
Savings code doesnt seem to be working. :(
@ryanchen4694
@ryanchen4694 Ай бұрын
@@jagerbomb81 SAME, DOENOT WORK
@jordanfgfox7237
@jordanfgfox7237 5 ай бұрын
FINALLY TALKING ABOUT DUALTRON SCOOTERS AGAIN
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Yes! Can’t wait for more! -Paul
@HOSTHEHAMBURGER
@HOSTHEHAMBURGER 27 күн бұрын
I got a dualtron togo plus and it’s one of the best scooters I’ve ever ridden I wouldn’t have found it without this channel too!
@talornguyen5516
@talornguyen5516 5 ай бұрын
I'm the second person own Dualtron X limited in UK. Guys dualtron scooters are amazing❤ like any scooters there are no best, no perfect. Buy what you can/want and learn to love it!
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Nice scooter! -Paul
@Rapikon2
@Rapikon2 5 ай бұрын
Planning to get a scooter for food delivery. 265lbs. So ive been looking at your channel for more indepth reviews of nice scooters 💥💥💥
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Nice! Thanks for watching. You can use our ride finder to search for scooters with high real-world-tested range numbers too, it’s the electricscooterguide site. -Paul
@edsonlageira9929
@edsonlageira9929 5 ай бұрын
Hi recomend Emove Cruiser have 62 miles and can do 30 mph search on KZbin reviews this chanel have reviews and is the best long distance of the chanel
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately you’d have to go really slow to get close to 60 miles on the Cruiser. Our tests have the 2019 model at about 50 miles 2021 at 47, 2023 at about 44 miles and 2024 Cruiser V2 at about 41 miles. The 2019 version had a much lower top speed at about 26mph. -Paul
@Mattdoc210
@Mattdoc210 5 ай бұрын
I'm 230 can never go wrong with a kaabo wolf warrior x
@peppevaa
@peppevaa 5 ай бұрын
Dualtron Togo is so badass, i have owned it 2 months and only negative is the annoin squeking sounds from the front. I ordered regular bmx handlebar with 190mm rise to get it higher🫡. Just make a hole in the bar and your good to go.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Great to hear. Sounds like they included enough extra cable on the Togo to let you have the bar height if you need it! I've had good luck applying lithium spray grease to Dualtron squeaks in the past, but on the Togo I wouldn't know where to look since our Togo was squeak free. -Paul
@NAAviBANDANA
@NAAviBANDANA 5 ай бұрын
Great video as usual. I bought my Solar eq based on you guys review. Love it. Ps can’t wait for a Solar Hyperion review whenever it drops from you guys
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@Patriot36
@Patriot36 5 ай бұрын
Great review/comparison, Paul. It would be so fun to try these scooters because they're so different from what other companies are doing. I've only ever owned the Dualtron MINI... which was oddly named and had enough stem flex to last me a lifetime.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Yeah, we still have the first Mini and I can't get over how not small it is when folded! Surprisingly fast top speed though. Super weird choice of materials that they used to have plastic front wheels! I was shocked how quick the Mini Special was! I should have left in the "first 10 feet" clip where I'm like "what the heck?" -Paul
@Patriot36
@Patriot36 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Haha!! That sounds like a funny clip! If the input helps, I think most fans of yours and ESG like the longer videos. I'll go back and watch them 3-4 times. Wow... I did not know that about the plastic wheels! Hard to believe how far things have come.
@mfpuma_
@mfpuma_ 5 ай бұрын
I own the Mini Special Long Body and it's so fun to use, really nimble and easy to maneuver in the city. The top speed makes me feel grateful i'll never have to drive a car again.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
I was really surprised how fast it is! -Paul
@billgangsta539
@billgangsta539 5 ай бұрын
Nice! i was waiting for this! :) Great review Paul and team! :D p.s. I really thing you can fix that stem flex on the mini easy if you get it to a scoot shop so they can fix it right. The mini looks way better but i like the popular also.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Interesting. Do you think something is just too loose? Normally I get a bit more hands on with the scooters, but this being a 3 scooter review, the time I had with each scooter was shorter. I’ll try tightening things up. -Paul
@billgangsta539
@billgangsta539 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Yes i really thing it does! Tho i bet it gets loose again over time and use but if you keep things nice and tight with some oil-greese thing on there i bet it does not move. It should be fine from the factory like the brakes are but its not thats why most scoot companies "set those up" before you buy them so nothing is loose the first time you ride it and that always leaves a bad impression on the rider.
@dianamorales8172
@dianamorales8172 5 ай бұрын
Would love to see a vid on beginner scooters medium scooters and pro level scooters Love the content❤
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! The closest would be Best of 2024. We have sections for beginner and fastest. Great idea! -Paul
@roadracer311
@roadracer311 5 ай бұрын
I'm so excited about all three: Togo Plus, the Mini Special Longbody and especially the Dualtron Popular.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for always supporting the channel! -Paul
@eastzbeastReal
@eastzbeastReal 5 ай бұрын
Happy to see y’all still doing this.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! -Paul
@1hjehje
@1hjehje 5 ай бұрын
Wow ... an excellent review. The Dualtron Pop would be my first choice. I'm hoping that there will be a change in battery chemistry in the near future as my wife is uncomfortable having a battery in our home that could be a safety concern.
@floridaboy7787
@floridaboy7787 5 ай бұрын
Loves me some Dualtrons man !! My thunder 2 is a year & a half old with over 2 thousnd miles on it. Still runs like a champ. You want something that will last ? Getcha a dualtron man. trust me. my kaabo has 800 miles on it and the headlight stopped working also i had to replace one of the controllers. are dualtrons a little pricey ? yes. but a quality build makes it worth it ........
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Great feedback! So glad your Thunder 2 is treating you well! -Paul
@jessa.3857
@jessa.3857 4 ай бұрын
Only 2k miles?!? I just reached 8k on mine. Still running beautifully. Let them buy whatever they like. Besides, I like not seeing that many dualtrons in the wild.
@Primevision78
@Primevision78 5 ай бұрын
I have the Duration Pop, and it's amazing, hands down. Performance and Range are exceptional
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Great to hear. I was really surprised how big the battery is, and that it combines a lot of the best stuff of larger scooters and the best stuff from smaller scooters. If I had to pick 10 to own, this would be on the list. -Paul
@Primevision78
@Primevision78 5 ай бұрын
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide The Dualtron Pop was my introduction to the e scooter community. Now, I am hooked. Thanks for the review.
@_petar
@_petar 5 ай бұрын
I have Dualtron Togo Plus since one month, only flaw I see are the drum brakes but for such kind of scooter they are ok as it reaches 45 km/h tops. Also it has some kind of built-in steering dampening which i find very good and this scooter is a total bargain took mine for 600 euro with bigger battery and Samsung cells.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@shayne5835
@shayne5835 5 ай бұрын
Once again another fabulous review. Thank you
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I really appreciate your support! -Paul
@torontorc4637
@torontorc4637 5 ай бұрын
Great video as usual Paul!👍🏽
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@adsoyada
@adsoyada 3 ай бұрын
You should definitely make your famous hill climb test with 650w togo plus version in "climbing" mode, you will definitely be surprised!
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 3 ай бұрын
@adsoyada Thanks for the suggestion. The Togo in this video is the Togo Plus. We climb the hill in climbing mode. -Paul
@TailSpinRCSpain
@TailSpinRCSpain 5 ай бұрын
Trigger throttles are the way to go, thumb throttles are dangerous because you can't grasp the right handlebar properly and it can be pulled out of your grip on rough terrain.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Interesting. I guess I could see that for off-roading. Thanks for the insight. -Paul
@MASTERWAYNE_718
@MASTERWAYNE_718 5 ай бұрын
Nice review!!Im waiting for thunder 3,achilleus,blastmax,victor luxury plus reviews!!!
@yassine_49
@yassine_49 5 ай бұрын
I bought a COSWHEEL S1 Is there a feature in it. bluetooth, + Can you help me? ❤❤❤❤
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
I haven't heard of that one, but just looked it up. I don't think it has bluetooth. One sure fire way to find out is to search for an app. -Paul
@lex_2037
@lex_2037 5 ай бұрын
22 minutes of Dualtron content? Check! ✅️ Let's go ESG 🔥
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
:-) It was tough getting it to only 7 minutes per scooter. We cut it down from around 35 minutes! -Paul
@RCDevotee
@RCDevotee 5 ай бұрын
Great breakdown Paul! I have always enjoyed Dualtron scooters. I miss my Dualtron Compact but my use case these days aligns to the Fluidfreeride Mosquito (i.e. E-Twow GT) or electric unicycles. However, I would definitely look at Dualtron scooters if I were ever back in that market.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for stopping by.
@norcalpatriot
@norcalpatriot 5 ай бұрын
Hy Paul, when you guys get a chance, get your hands on a Bluetran from Minimotors in San Rafael. That thing is a BEAST. Cheers!
@lachlanbrown3112
@lachlanbrown3112 5 ай бұрын
do you prefer the trigger throttle when its implemented right like on the dualtron or do you prefer the nami style thumb trottle?
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Ultimately I still like thumbs, especially that one because it won’t whisky-throttle on vertical bumps. -Paul
@exactlyhowareyou513
@exactlyhowareyou513 5 ай бұрын
Anyone with a Dualtron, how is the Squarewave controller? I've sold my 30mph Sinewave Scooter and am getting a 50mph Dualtron and im kind of worried the jerkiness maybe too much.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Which Dualtron are you getting? Two of these three are fairly smooth (the Popular and Togo), but most of their fast scooters I've ridden aren't very smooth except the X Limited. The scooter I'm dying to ride is the Thunder 3. The Thunder 2 was much more abrupt than the Thunder 1 but I'm hoping they've smoothed things out on the 3. -Paul
@exactlyhowareyou513
@exactlyhowareyou513 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I'm getting the Victor Luxury Plus. Pretty excited got a few upgrades for it already.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
If it’s anything like the earlier ones we’ve tested it’s one of the most densely packed scooters ever for speed and range. Meaning, it’s trunkable but super fast and long range. Enjoy. -Paul
@terpinkov8770
@terpinkov8770 5 ай бұрын
Can you guys do a review on WePed scooters or their mini e-bike?
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
We've tried. We even have an FF around here somewhere, but we could never get it to work. Weped is such a niche company that they rarely seem to have spare scooters to send out for review. So it's unlikely we'll review any Wepeds soon, but it could happen some day. -Paul
@maciejpsyk
@maciejpsyk 5 ай бұрын
We need a separate video about the warship!
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Oh man! Come to think of it, I need to take my kids! I've never been on board. It's the USS Hornet, now a floating museum, which had some super famous missions. It was the launch vehicle for the Doolittle raid. -Paul
@ErrollJones-s6d
@ErrollJones-s6d 5 ай бұрын
Great video love the scooters 👍🏽
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! -Paul
@DJIDudeX2011
@DJIDudeX2011 5 ай бұрын
Those things are sick! But if you can, try to get your hands on the dragon scooters. The GTR V2, The Cyclone, Cyclone Pro, Lightning v2, and a lot more! The thing is, their australian while you guys seem to be american.
@Brenno097
@Brenno097 4 ай бұрын
I'm in Australia as well. Do you have one of the dragons. I heard the not good quality at all and i think they are tubed tyres too and top speed are over exagerated. Considering scooters under $1500 aud mostly 40klm/h top speed roughly: Looking at kugoo m4 pro $1400 aud, emove touring $950 aud on special, kaboo sky 10c $1300 on special, kaboo sky 8s $1200 on special, dualtron popular $1400 54klm top speed(probably highest for the money) Yume swift $1440 aud on special 50klm top speed as well Voltrium ion max (au brand, very good quality from what I understand) $1600 aud 45klm top speed Zero 9 $1200 aud 45klm top speed
@DJIDudeX2011
@DJIDudeX2011 4 ай бұрын
@@Brenno097 I've got the dragon raptor
@Cozydrone
@Cozydrone 4 ай бұрын
I have a question?can the battery be taken out for charging,I can't carry 75 pounds up 3 flights of stairs.if it cannot be removed then that is a deal breaker for me.thank you in advance for your response.😃😁
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 4 ай бұрын
None of these have removable batteries. Check out the Gotrax GX0. -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 4 ай бұрын
Gotrax GX0 review kzbin.info/www/bejne/roPJkGd3mql8mNksi=hTfzKhmP-gWj3pSa
@PotatusOfTheLand
@PotatusOfTheLand 5 ай бұрын
hmm i just bought the ninebot max g2 today as my first scooter but now that I'm seeing this, dualtron is making me reconsider. I didn't realize you achieve top speeds of 30ish mph near the $1k price range that's pretty crazy. would it be worth switching models from the g2 to one of these? I particularly like the mini special long
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
That’s a great question. It really just depends on the specs that are most important to you. I was really surprised how big the batteries are in these three for the price, especially considering that Minimotors is using name brand cells (LG or Samsung) while the Segway Ninebot batteries are of unspecified origin. If you want performance, you’ll feel a huge difference with the Mini Special Longbody vs the Max G2. There are many versions of the mini, the one I’m testing here is the dual motor 52V 21ah battery version linked in the video description. -Paul
@PotatusOfTheLand
@PotatusOfTheLand 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thanks for the feedback and supplying exceptionally well made guides about this niche. Just ordered the special longbody and will be returning the max after a few days of feeling it out some more
@electricridesusa
@electricridesusa 5 ай бұрын
not sure how I like the new ey3 the green was lovely and what's with that button placement....
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
I can't figure out why they didn't give it another name. I guess they already used EY4. Maybe they should have called it EY3.5 -Paul
@electricridesusa
@electricridesusa 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide lol yeah good point, I like the fact that it can show other colors now but seems like not much of an improvement, and what's up with that button placement? original ey3 seemed more intuitive.
@raquelbarron943
@raquelbarron943 5 ай бұрын
Love your videos!
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! We really appreciate that you took the time to watch and comment! It helps us reach more youtube viewers! Cheers. -Paul
@asilaydying1984
@asilaydying1984 5 ай бұрын
The popular looks awesome
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
It's fun! -Paul
@rastingaming8532
@rastingaming8532 4 ай бұрын
In your opinion, something like the Togo, or the pop, how do they hold up compared to a Segway g2 all in (assuming the Togo, pop (single motor) g2, stack up?
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 4 ай бұрын
We like the Togo very solid!
@Seb90584
@Seb90584 5 ай бұрын
Really wished dualtron would send some of the more powerful models!
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed. If enough people watch this video, share, etc I think we’ll get more and larger Dualtrons! It had been more than 1.5 years since the last one! -Paul
@xHiyami
@xHiyami 5 ай бұрын
I just wish I could get the new dualtron storm limited with the ey4 display in Canada without having to buy it from a US or UK website.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Is it not available in Canada, or just much more expensive? Want to take a road trip? We've got one we aren't using. -Paul
@xHiyami
@xHiyami 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide There is only one website from my what I could see that sells the new version in Canada and they are sold out, everywhere else is selling the old one.. Even dualtron Canadian website for some reason! And yeah it's just so much more expensive on US websites when converting the currency. But I would love to Road trip! Lol if only it were possible for me right now.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Ahhh! I see. Thanks for the details. Sorry we aren’t closer! -Paul
@xHiyami
@xHiyami 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide It's okay, thanks for the offer though haha
@xHiyami
@xHiyami 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I have a question. Do you have any idea if any of the providers on alibaba are legitimate? or which ones are? I've done a bit of research and I read that there are some reliable ones, and I've noticed some of them sell the storm limited new, but I'm not sure which can be trusted. I don't want to buy a scooter that's going to break down quickly lol Thanks!
@adsoyada
@adsoyada 3 ай бұрын
Was it 650w rated version for the togo plus and climbing mode activated?
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 3 ай бұрын
Yes. It turns out that climbing mode is just mode 3, and we always test in the highest performance mode. -Paul
@MrV1T
@MrV1T 5 ай бұрын
Hey! Dualtrons are on the radar again! Finally! Speaking of which... I'm looking for updated Storm LTD with EY4 (2024), but, surprisingly - I don't see any good reviews of it (aside from few random shorts, and their own overview), and even no reputable mentions anywhere. Anyone knows what's up? 9 month passed since minimotors dropped overview of it, and then it went into shades...
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
No plan at this time to review it!
@MrV1T
@MrV1T 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Yeah, I see this being a thing. I wonder why, though? Should I just buy it blindly and try myself? Or wait forever? :) Or it around the corner and someone will review it soon? So many questions, but I can't even get a NO... just nothing. In the end - all boils down to: is it good enough, or quite bad. It does have some interesting features (like new type of suspension), and some critical features for me (geometry, long to explain). Sorry to bother :).
@johnnyroese
@johnnyroese 5 ай бұрын
I love this channel
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! -Paul
@TyLes5
@TyLes5 4 ай бұрын
Which would you recommend between a Dualtron Togo plus and a Nui Kqi300x scooter?
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 4 ай бұрын
Togo , check link in description for best price and coupon code
@fztiz999
@fztiz999 4 ай бұрын
Is the dualtron popular a strong durable scooter for long term and aggressive rider
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 4 ай бұрын
Feels very solid! Check link in description for latest price and best code.
@gagegriego2035
@gagegriego2035 5 ай бұрын
My favorite is the special long body❤
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
That throttle is a blast! I really wasn’t expecting this much range our power. I cut the part of the video where I hit the throttle for the first time and was like “what’s this?” So different from the original Mini! (Which was also fast for its price, but confusingly not small when folded). -Paul
@fancypants6089
@fancypants6089 5 ай бұрын
FINALLLLLLYYYYY🎉
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Hopefully more Dualtrons to come! I just checked and it has been more than 1.5 years since the last time we got our hands on a Dualtron! Too long! -Paul
@hokoloco837
@hokoloco837 5 ай бұрын
Can you do a review of the Slack core920r ?
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
I’d love to, but last I heard they had sort of disappeared. Their site was gone when I looked. -Paul
@ambiori1
@ambiori1 21 күн бұрын
Very good review
@egemene.3432
@egemene.3432 5 ай бұрын
what is the pauls weight ?
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
5’ 10” and 165lbs. -Paul
@robloxroblox7025
@robloxroblox7025 5 ай бұрын
can you do a video doing best e scooters under 1500$ , also can u guys to review the kukirin g2 master or max
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Good idea. We did best under $2,000 but that was a while ago. We don't have any of the Kukirin scooters on our schedule at the moment. I'm not sure if it will happen. -Paul kzbin.info/www/bejne/nabOmpyklNaNhMUsi=STE6zikw8PGit01U
@robloxroblox7025
@robloxroblox7025 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Hi Paul, I love your videos and if you can’t make a video reviewing the kukirin g2 master, then can you and your team please make a video of best e scooters under 1500$? I would love to get one of the e scooters from the best scooters under 2000$ video but unfortunately it’s too high for my price range, if you can please make a best e scooters under 1500$ video, I been watching your guys content for a few months now waiting for that type of content to be made but it never happened! Thank you
@kaizz3n
@kaizz3n 5 ай бұрын
Can you review the Hiley Tiger 8 Pro? Looks similar to the Mini
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
We haven't done the Hiley Tiger, but did do the Synergy Tsunami which I think is made by Hiley and seems similar in spec. The very first scooter I ever rode was a Hiley. -Paul kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHS0lIt4qK2Vbs0
@kaizz3n
@kaizz3n 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide hmm gotcha! appreciate your input :)
@Mattdoc210
@Mattdoc210 Ай бұрын
The Togo is an absolute bargain right now at 499, I cant name another scooter with an lg battery that even goes 20 plus at that price point.
@AegisHyperon
@AegisHyperon 5 ай бұрын
Scooters go fast enough for the rotors to warp and bend?!? At that point i'd be far more worried about brake fade where your drum brakes just stop working.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
They can warp from heat, but mostly bend from getting smacked around. The rotors have very little mass to hold all of the heat from stopping. Check out the smoke in this shot. I think there must have been a rust-proofing layer that's getting cooked off here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gIm2oJWYoKmWaNUsi=mPHFrCLa01pxURQf&t=604 Good point about fade. I've never specifically gone out looking for it, but I've felt more fade from scooters with disc brakes than from drums, maybe because drums have a lot more thermal mass. The reason it's not apples to apples though is most of the very large very fast scooters have discs. Great idea though. I should test an Apollo Pro back to back with a Thunder 2 for 5 hard stops from like 40 mph and see the difference between stop #1 and stop #5. -Paul
@kevmack101
@kevmack101 5 ай бұрын
8:32 TESTED TOP SPEEDS FOR ALL 3 YOUR WELCOME LOL..........
@RiderGuide
@RiderGuide 5 ай бұрын
Let's Go!
@yonomasp
@yonomasp 5 ай бұрын
I got dualtron togo limited 60v15ah :)!
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Nice! That one wasn’t on the website when I filmed this review, so I was surprised to see it show up in the screenshot of their site. They must have just added it. -Paul
@ghostlyinterceptor7756
@ghostlyinterceptor7756 5 ай бұрын
dualtron popular 25ah 52v dual motor please review it
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. This is the 25ah 52V version. Unfortunately we didn't have time to review them all separately, but all of the normal test data is here. -Paul
@zjgw72
@zjgw72 5 ай бұрын
Tubed tyres, really Dualtron!?
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
That surprised me for sure. They tend to stick with the “classic” way of doing things longer than other companies (original EY3 stayed too long). But then sometimes will do stuff first like split-rim-tubeless. -Paul
@zjgw72
@zjgw72 5 ай бұрын
Yes, I agree. It could be a deal breaker for me.
@MotoeditS-
@MotoeditS- 5 ай бұрын
Better: popular Best: mini long body
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Definitely true if you like a sportier throttle and better access to the settings without using the app! For some riders, the Togo is the best choice! Hard to go wrong with these three. Do you have a Mini Long Body? -Paul
@MotoeditS-
@MotoeditS- 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuidehenüz yok fakat yakın bi zamanda satın almayı düşünüyorum
@The_Cannabis_Connoisseur
@The_Cannabis_Connoisseur 5 ай бұрын
No Styrofoam or any packaging to protect all that metal from being scratched up and bent in shipping? And this is a South Korean company? Even the Chinese company like Segway puts these big foam pieces on the sides and on top so your scooter so it don't get messed up in transport
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
They've got their cardboard game down. Gotrax is getting really good at cardboard too. It's a lot easier for us to dispose of because the recycling bin at ESG always has more room than the garbage and styrofoam has to go in the garbage. Styrofoam is great at absorbing a ton of impact one time because it stays deformed and doesn't bounce the energy back into the scooter. But it means it doesn't work that well on the second hit. I have seen some absolute disasters in cardboard packing though, like the very first NAMI shipments. -Paul
@vietdragon5610
@vietdragon5610 5 ай бұрын
i need selfbalanceing scooter do they eveer make 1 ??????????? come on
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Not that we are aware of!
@independentmind85
@independentmind85 5 ай бұрын
I'll consider another Dualtron once they get rid of their horrible trigger throttle.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
I prefer thumb throttles myself, but this is the best trigger they've done because you can set it closer to the brake and on the Togo and Pop the throttle response is much smoother than other Dualtrons. -Paul
@independentmind85
@independentmind85 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide maybe I'll have to give them another try. I had a first gen Thunder and a Speedway 5 and the throttle was so frustrating compared to a good thumb throttle.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Interesting. The first gen Thunder we have here is smooth relative to the Thunder 2 which is borderline-difficult-to-ride in the top mode because the throttle is so abrupt. The Dualtron X Limited is a joy to ride. I’m super curious about the Thunder 3. I have no idea what direction things went with the throttle on that one (yet). -Paul
@independentmind85
@independentmind85 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I don't mean the sensitivity of it, but the placement of the throttle. It's so uncomfortable to me compared to a thumb throttle. There is a reason most companies use thumb throttle.
@Patriot36
@Patriot36 5 ай бұрын
Dualtron continues to be such an odd blend. The "old guard" largely ignoring the design and engineering trends of the contemporary scooter world, with unique folding hinges, rehashed throttle/displays, "talking" motors & one-off handlebar picks. On the other end of the spectrum someone there is looking at trends because they think app dependency and girder front ends are what people are looking for. So they have taken some cues but maybe not the one's most of us want them to. The decks look great on the Togo and Pop and I don't really see any stem mechanism flex. The folding bars on the Pop however, while tolerable on my old T-handle Cruiser S, are not an ideal pick for a newly designed scooter. At 72lbs, I'm not sure why they thought it needed folding bars. Once again, the trend is away from folding bars, even on ultra-lightweights like the KQI Air.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Always expert insights! You really know your scooters! -Paul
@Patriot36
@Patriot36 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide During your introduction it made me think, gosh... you must have one of the highest personal scooter "test ride" counts on the planet. I think Mitchell guessed something over 200 scooters for himself but I'm guessing both of you must be way up there. I've ridden possibly a touch over 25 and owned... 13, with a mere 7 of them at this current time. I'm a complete noob compared to you guys, haha! :D
@electricridesusa
@electricridesusa 5 ай бұрын
POPULAR 25AH FTW
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
100%! -Paul
@electricridesusa
@electricridesusa 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I like em all but seems to be the best bang for buck for a dual motor scooter in this category.
@dannydanny9875
@dannydanny9875 5 ай бұрын
Sharp!
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
They really do make great looking scooters! -Paul
@Brenno097
@Brenno097 4 ай бұрын
Any thoughts on these scooters overall, im looking for the best speed i can get for the money. I use it as a mix of commuting to work and for fun, but i have alot of speed bumps and so on to get to work and i have to pass lots of construction sites so supension and non tubed tyres is also a big consideration. Ideally, dualtron with its price and top speed is good. it just sucks its tubed tyres Im considering scooters under $1500 aud mostly 40klm/h top speed roughly for these ones: Looking at kugoo m4 pro $1400 aud, emove touring $950 aud on special, kaboo sky 10c $1300 on special, kaboo sky 8s $1200 on special, dualtron popular $1400 54klm top speed(probably highest for the money) Yume swift $1440 aud on special 50klm top speed as well Voltrium ion max (au brand, very good quality from what I understand) $1600 aud 45klm top speed Zero 9 $1200 aud 45klm top speed
@PickingBlueberries
@PickingBlueberries 5 ай бұрын
Pop would be the clear winner if it didn't weigh so much more than the Mini.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for stopping by!
@teddy_123.
@teddy_123. 5 ай бұрын
NICE
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Hey! Good to see you Teddy! Thanks for your support! -Paul
@khanrides
@khanrides 5 ай бұрын
The Popular is definitely the best scooter out of all 3 In my opinion,
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
100%! -Paul
@snoopysrc
@snoopysrc 5 ай бұрын
If you give one of those away count me in
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
:-)
@idrissamorehouse322
@idrissamorehouse322 5 ай бұрын
These only seem good MAYBE for general beginners - seems to me like they rescrambled old technology and slapped on new control screens and outer design BUT I DONT REALLY SEE ANY REAL VALUE FOR ANYONE EXPERIENCED IN SCOOTER RIDING !?
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Which scooters do you like for more experienced riders? -Paul
@The_Cannabis_Connoisseur
@The_Cannabis_Connoisseur 5 ай бұрын
I would still rather have the Segway GT1 or GT2
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Those are great scooters, especially if you don't have stairs. I keep wondering if they're going to update them or cancel them. It feels like they have been running close-out type pricing on them for a long time. -Paul
@Berserker26
@Berserker26 5 ай бұрын
Still using the crap finger throttle. If they change this a lot of people would look at them.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Is it the throttle response, the quality of materials or the type of throttle? I prefer thumb throttles myself, but feel like the triggers on the Togo and Popular work really well for what they are. -Paul
@brunowalkowiak3432
@brunowalkowiak3432 2 ай бұрын
That togo for 500... steal or os there something better haha
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like a solid price for sure!
@brunowalkowiak3432
@brunowalkowiak3432 2 ай бұрын
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide can't decide between that or the vmax f2 pro
@xorbe2
@xorbe2 5 ай бұрын
"Appliance apps" suck because they go stale, your phone gets updates, and then the app doesn't work because they never update the app, and then you can't adjust your appliance ... I freaking HATE devices that require phone apps.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
The good news is that Dualtron is going to stick around for a long time and one app supports all of their scooters so they keep updating it. But yeah, I want to be able to control everything directly even if I need to decode it with a manual. -Paul
@JC61990
@JC61990 5 ай бұрын
Cut away from your hands, not towards them.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice. You’d think I’d know better being a professional mechanic for 17 years. I didn’t even notice I did that! :-) -Paul
@samwu7720
@samwu7720 5 ай бұрын
Had me at tubed tires, no thanks.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Surprising right Sam? -Paul
@samwu7720
@samwu7720 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I'm crushed man, that was the primary reason I didn't buy one as it checked all the boxes. 😪
@esgespanol
@esgespanol 5 ай бұрын
¿Cuántos espectadores preferirían ver esto en español?
@fredlada1634
@fredlada1634 5 ай бұрын
If people think that a 1300$ is affordable there is a problem with you. The market has gone completely mad, people consider half a months wage or even a full month salary as affordable, you’re out of your minds. In France 1300€ is a full month salary, it’s not affordable at all, especially given this is a “scooter”, is highly susceptible for theft, has almost no security compared to a bike and you can’t ride this thing in all kinds of weathers so yeah, the more I’m checking about these e vehicles the more I’m just thinking about a bike, these scooters are a joke, totally overpriced
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@jayparker393
@jayparker393 5 ай бұрын
Being the owner of 3 scooters, Dualtron sucks. And I own one.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Which Dualtron scooter do you own? -Paul
@jayparker393
@jayparker393 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Bluetran lightning, mini motors doesn't even sell it anymore. Even with a $500 steering dampner it was still a death trap.
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Wow. Yeah steering instability is one of the most unforgivable scooter sins. I haven’t ridden that one. -Paul
@4Astonic7
@4Astonic7 5 ай бұрын
I’m gegttyigjgng a INMOTIONNNN
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Which one? We finally have an Immotion Climber heading our way for testing! -Paul
@4Astonic7
@4Astonic7 5 ай бұрын
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide the inmotion rs!
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
Wooooo! Fast one! I hope you don't have to wait too long! -Paul
@Nokkkhhhhh
@Nokkkhhhhh 5 ай бұрын
Please review the togo 60v limited edition
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 5 ай бұрын
It’s funny, that must have come out after we filmed. I was surprised to see it show up in the screen shot of the models and was wondering about it! -Paul
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