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Ducati 1299R Final Edition 4000 mile review and V4 Panigale comparison

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Kevin Bowers

Kevin Bowers

Күн бұрын

This is my 4000 mile review and thoughts of the 1299R FE and comparison to the new V4 Panigale. Leave some comments and check me out on instagram @pnw_ducrider

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@Shimmoda
@Shimmoda 6 жыл бұрын
You were spot on with the comparison on the V4. I rode a Panigale 1299 S and I couldn't believe how quick it could turn in and how much punch it had in the mid range the V4 is smoother but you can have some crazy aggressive fun with the V twin
@gz4789
@gz4789 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review...I have had a highly modified 1299s for about 1 year now and love the way it delivers the power. It has more torque through the range than any bike I've ever owned, and it is not shy about unleashing it. I recently test rode a stock V4s and it is really a totally different bike with regard to power. Much smoother throughout the range and seemed a little more graceful in power delivery and handling. My dealer did a dyno on my 1299s and the V4s, same day, and my 1299 pulled 179hp at the wheel, V4s pulled 181hp at wheel. Not much difference in power, just how it delivers. I think it really boils down to the rider and their preference. For me, V4s would be a preferred street/commuter bike, and the 1299s would be better for me on track.
@paper____
@paper____ 6 жыл бұрын
I also want to thank you for your honest opinion also. Thats what we need to hear. The real facts from a average rider. I also subscribed !!!!!!!!! Have fun & be careful !!
@HS-uq1lf
@HS-uq1lf 6 жыл бұрын
Down to earth dude nice!!! The comparison was really good and easy to understand keep it up
@johnnycoolfactoryrid
@johnnycoolfactoryrid 5 жыл бұрын
I also bought an FE, with no regrets about not choosing the V4.
@thomasdixon7152
@thomasdixon7152 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, didn't know you had a KZbin channel channel too. I suspected you were the one w the 2000 mile review . Taking mine to the track Thursday doing the 600 mile oil change and bolt tightening this weekend!
@RPM-ty2ju
@RPM-ty2ju 6 жыл бұрын
stunning bike ! in the looks department this beats the v4 hands down
@bostontricolore6958
@bostontricolore6958 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video sweet FE Thank you... I to had a 1299 base which i was going to throw a bunch of money into. I dicided not to. Sold it and waited for V4 I kind of was on the fence with V4 base or a 1299S. And passed on both and went with a low miles 1098S Tricolore. I fell in love with ducatis tri colore bikes. Their paint schemes just transform the bikes. I would love to be rolling down the road with you with that full race ackra booming and my 70mm race termi. booming. That would be some nice v-twin thunder!!!!
@bigesmalls0832
@bigesmalls0832 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin it's Ethan cool to see your review forgot you had a KZbin channel so I subscribed and I'll see you maybe in a month or so.
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 6 жыл бұрын
Ethan Noah hey man, have fun on the east side. See you in a bit
@johnnycoolfactoryrid
@johnnycoolfactoryrid 6 жыл бұрын
I bought an FE and put the race exhaust and some other goodies on it. I love it! I wondered before I got it, whether to get the V4 Speciale or the FE. I think I made the right choice and with 12 Ducati’s and the Monster Anniversario on order. This is the final tribute, which means something to a true Ducatista
@ClutchFirst
@ClutchFirst 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice comprehensive review. Beautiful Panigale man.
@charlieryan1736
@charlieryan1736 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review, glad I found your channel just subscribed
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 6 жыл бұрын
charlie ryan thank you much, I’ll have a few more vids coming soon.
@kymtaylor5433
@kymtaylor5433 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Your spot on mate. Ducati's mis behave with their stock systems , all in the name of these god damn euro requirements. You have to throw an after market system on them to cure the hesitation they can have. Ducati twins have a rawness to them , enthusiasts love it, some riders not so much. I think the V4 has gone down the road of the Japanese, supremely powerful, smooth and brilliant but lacks that rawness. Love your bike and I wouldn't change it for V4 . There's more character/ personality in your bike
@michaelmarkides
@michaelmarkides 8 ай бұрын
I would choose this over V4 every time. Except if it was for the V4R.
@thomasdixon7152
@thomasdixon7152 5 жыл бұрын
Watched this vid 10 times, man you shoulda kept it !
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 5 жыл бұрын
Thomas Dixon lol who knows, I might get it again
@oneonlyxram
@oneonlyxram 6 жыл бұрын
I never really had a want for the final edition, i liked the numbering of it, but that's it. Having a anniversario i didn't feel the need for this bike. that being said, it sounds incredible and seems like a beast! I agree with the V4 being a better daily bike, but i also daily rode my 1199s haha. Enjoyed the video man.
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 6 жыл бұрын
I hear ya, the FE with that SL engine is something completely different though. I ride the shit out of my Panigales also, that’s what they’re for. I still think the anniversario is an awesome looking bike. I was all set on one, instead I got an awesome deal on my Panigale R and went that route. The V4 will be an awesome daily bike, of that I’m sure.
@oneonlyxram
@oneonlyxram 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Bowers I'd like to get my hands on a 1299 SL... but i did have a speciale that is supposed to be in next week!
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 6 жыл бұрын
oneonly xram a 1299SL would be awesome!! You’ll love the Speciale, I got to ride my friends with the full Akra installed on it and damn it’s good. Completely different riding experience to the 1x99 Panigale but wow. You’ll enjoy it
@oneonlyxram
@oneonlyxram 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Bowers i got to test the base v4 and was greatly impressed.
@chrisv-l3835
@chrisv-l3835 Жыл бұрын
1299FE in my opinion is the pinnacle of Planigale’s. If I was a rich man I would prefer the 1299 SL any day over the new V4 Planigale’s. I still LOVE my 1199 it has done so well over the last nearly 5 years for me. Next bike for me would definitely be a 1299. One question on your 1299FE when you upgraded from the stock exhaust with the huge Cat can, did you have to do an up map for this?
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. I had a chance at a 1199 SL and i regret not getting it. The 1299 SL is just it’s own monster and that’s the pinnacle to me. The FE was as close to it as I could get and I loved every second of it. The race exhaust for the FE came with an upmap. I think it was just an update done from the dealer, not the USB that the 1199 had. The upmap wasn’t perfect and a custom tune would be the best way to go. The FE made 193hp at the rear wheel with the stock exhaust. Would have been well over 200hp at the wheel with the full system. I just never took it back to find out.
@chrisv-l3835
@chrisv-l3835 Жыл бұрын
@@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider Wow what a beast your 1299FE is. Thanks for sharing. Definatley my goal is to aquire one.
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider Жыл бұрын
@@chrisv-l3835 when you do, look for one with the race exhaust already installed. It will save you a lot of headache. I helped a friend of mine look for an exhaust about a year ago and it was a nightmare
@dukedaz8920
@dukedaz8920 6 жыл бұрын
Really nice pipes look boss,great review 👌👍
@thomasdixon7152
@thomasdixon7152 3 жыл бұрын
Think you need to get this bike back ❤️
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 3 жыл бұрын
Believe me, I know
@ernestsysbm1175
@ernestsysbm1175 6 жыл бұрын
Congrats dude! 👍👍
@GMss101
@GMss101 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid. More daily riding videos please!! 🥺
@bigblue7091
@bigblue7091 6 жыл бұрын
Great Bike , that exhaust is just Superb ". 🥊
@DonnieDesmo
@DonnieDesmo 6 жыл бұрын
Would take the 1299R FE over the V4 any time
@LegendaryValky
@LegendaryValky 6 жыл бұрын
If my short ass tried to roll backwards out of a driveway like that I would fall immediately
@richardburns9772
@richardburns9772 6 жыл бұрын
L Twin 4LYFE!
@ridwanurrahman8945
@ridwanurrahman8945 6 жыл бұрын
I think everyone will agree that this is the best looking panigale ever...even when I saw the v4 for first time I was qute quite a bit disappointed with the design... I have been thinking why is ducati downgrading their deaign? this bike is that good...
@BLaJolla
@BLaJolla 6 жыл бұрын
This bike looks 100 times better than the V4 speciale
@reerbaadia1896
@reerbaadia1896 6 жыл бұрын
You're living the dream buddy. What do you do? Nice review.
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 6 жыл бұрын
ReerBaadia make bad decisions, ride motorcycles and take photos mostly. I work for an oil company.
@reerbaadia1896
@reerbaadia1896 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Bowers We all have one life to live. Play hard work hard. Thanks and have a good riding 4 months coming.
@jetstream01
@jetstream01 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, it's helpful. I had a new V4S and unfortunately totaled it recently due to some unexpected sand across a mountain road. I have a V4SP on order, but I'm actually thinking of pulling the trigger on a 1299FE instead. I really don't like the V4 motor...it's completely lacking midrange and torque. I've been spoiled by the RC51 and Aprilia Tuono. The Aprilia V4 is superior to Ducati's in every way. I'm hoping this 1299 FE will give me that grunt and hard pull from any rpm that I miss.
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 3 жыл бұрын
It will definitely give you that. On my IG and in earlier videos you’re going to want to get the exhaust, a tune or something to really let that engine breathe. Becomes a completely new animal. I think it’s one of the best superbikes Ducati has made. I also had a V4 Speciale and while I did enjoy it, I always felt it was missing the rawness or the anger the L twin engine had
@jetstream01
@jetstream01 3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider I think I feel the same way and I love raw feeling bikes. That's why I loved my RC51 so much. Luckily the FE I'm looking at does have the same exact exhaust as you and I have a local tuner than can dyno tune it for me.
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 3 жыл бұрын
@@jetstream01 you would absolutely love that bike. From the bikes you’re used to it will be a perfect match. It really is a special machine, every time you ride it feels like an event and the bike never disappoints
@MythicFoxx
@MythicFoxx 6 жыл бұрын
good comments
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 6 жыл бұрын
J. Carlos Coelho i do what I can
@tenson2410
@tenson2410 2 ай бұрын
quick question , when you took your mirrors off did you get a warning triangle on your dash ..thanks in advance
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 2 ай бұрын
I didn’t,
@moultriet.3262
@moultriet.3262 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bud. Great videos! Great comparison to the v4. You are just the guy I need to speak to. So I currently ride a 2018 R1. Considering trading for a 2017 1299s Anniversario with full ackra. I owned an 1199s loaded with goodies. Miss the twin. Did you have many issues with the 1299s and is the 1299s a much different bike than the 1199s
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 4 жыл бұрын
Moultrie T. The 1299 S was a huge upgrade Over the 1199. Chassis is way better, electronics are better, revised geometry was better and the engine is just a work of Art. I had around 10k miles on my 1299 and it never missed a beat. Rain, hot weather, it did it all. It’s an amazing machine all around.
@moultriet.3262
@moultriet.3262 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider awesome!!! Thanks for the feedback. Looking forward to more amazing content.
@JGXD2000
@JGXD2000 6 жыл бұрын
Any heating issues with the 1299 final edition? How do all the panigale’ compare with heating?
@MrElabaa002
@MrElabaa002 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin. I got my 1299 final edition last week. Did you get an owner manual? Does the chain grease drip on your exhaust? How did you adjust gear lever? To me that seems like an engineering error...
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 6 жыл бұрын
yes I got an owner manual, your dealer should have given you one. The grease does drop down its a problem all Panigales have had. The there some adjustment for the gear lever but not much, if you really want to be able to adjust them you'll probably need to go aftermarket.
@johnanderson9193
@johnanderson9193 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 1299R FE also, changing the exhaust system to Austin Raceing exhaust. Where did you get the carbon belly pan from?
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 5 жыл бұрын
John Anderson it came with the full Akra exhaust. I believe that shift tech has a carbon belly pan available also.
@NakedBikeMike
@NakedBikeMike 6 жыл бұрын
You know you want the V4😜 JK, your bike is awesome too.
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 6 жыл бұрын
Naked Bike Mike something for the FE to stomp on ;)
@jimpanzer07
@jimpanzer07 6 жыл бұрын
1299 is slightly better looking than v4 but the v4 is the one to beat!
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 6 жыл бұрын
jimpanzer07 they are two completely different bikes and riding experiences. Just comes down to what you want a bike to feel like and what you’re comfortable with.
@kimbersp1
@kimbersp1 5 жыл бұрын
I have the same FE and got the race exhaust fitted. I have had problems since... 10 months in the shop. Change the shop and got more professional help. It rides awesome now but below 5000 rpm it is like there is missing fuel. At 3-4000 rpm it is time a delay on the fuel.. do you experience the same
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 5 жыл бұрын
Martin Rasmussen that’s odd. Did they upload the upmap correctly? Mine was butter smooth after the race exhaust was installed. Since that was the only L2 that was euro 4 complaint i can imagine there might be a few hang ups. I’d have them take the upmap off and reload it. See if there are any updates. I’d also ask them to calibrate the TPS, it’s helped smooth things out with bikes I had in the past.
@newkurosawa
@newkurosawa 6 жыл бұрын
If it came down to just looks then your bike wins over the v4 speciale hands down. It is just a stunning bike. Yeah if I walked into my garage and saw that I would be a very happy bunny..
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 6 жыл бұрын
new kurosawa i can’t lie, it brings a smile to my face every time
@jessemartinez4601
@jessemartinez4601 6 жыл бұрын
Have you dynoed it yet? And very nice motorcycle
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 6 жыл бұрын
Aztec Warrior6969 yup, with the stock euro 4 exhaust it made 192hp at the rear wheel. Since it’s the only V2 Panigale with the euro 4 pipe and how restricted as it was it should make over 200 at the wheel now with the race exhaust.
@jessemartinez4601
@jessemartinez4601 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Bowers wow
@ralleralle8620
@ralleralle8620 5 жыл бұрын
awesome bike but too expensive though
@AcXr50
@AcXr50 6 жыл бұрын
KEVIN!
@Pillokun
@Pillokun 6 жыл бұрын
Panigale having torque? well sure it have but have you ridden the older ducs like 1x98? The Panigale is very hihg revving for a V/L-twin. But one thing I think is funny with Ducatistas. First they say that they love the shaking, rattling and vibrating that a v-twin is at low rpm ie being lumpy and making fun of 4 cyl powered bikes but now they praise the Panigale V4 for being smooth at those revs? Okey :D
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider
@KevinBowers_Pnw_ducrider 6 жыл бұрын
Pillokun let’s clear up a few things, I’ve had 9 Ducatis. I’m very well aware of how they feel. Yes the engine is smooth, way smoother than the older ones, maybe if you’ve ridden all of them as i have you’d know what I’m talking about. Okay!?!
@Pillokun
@Pillokun 6 жыл бұрын
I have flogged a few sport ducs, from 748,996, 848 corse something,1098 and 1199 panigale s. The v4 I have only ridden just for 5 mins so I cant say much about it but that it felt bigger then the org Panigale making it harder for me to flatfoot the ground. But anyway, it was not a attack on you or anything but more like that the Panigale does not really have the same brutal feeling as say 1x98 had. I much prefer the more modern sit position on the Panigale but it was no brute that the old trellis framed superbike was.
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