Ducati 848 Evo v Yamaha R6 v Daytona 675

Ducati's new 848 Evo has taken the supersports category to new heights. But can the 140bho twin match the amazing 675 or Yamaha's screaming R6?
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[@someguy9520]

The moment when the R6 is considered the most comfortable and most gentle power delivery. What a time

[@godwinikape8888]

IKR?

[@Mex_the_Fox]

comfortable LOL^^

[@skyline44512]

OMG a comparison that puts the same tires on the bikes!! Awesome!! Liked!!!!

[@ZiggySheppardUK]

+JortsRider But different size engines. ;-)

[@Real_MisterSir]

Ziggy different amount of cylinders require different cc capacity.. I hope you learned a bit about engines in those two years since you commented that.

[@HiphopJunkieable]

you're here just for the 848

[@kevxxx7]

True

[@giddyrightonup]

I've owned ALL 3 of these bikes, and have to say that this review is absolutely bang-on. Everything he said is completely true (except that the 848 is actually 849cc) I thought I'd never enjoy a bike more than my r6...until I got my 675, and couldn't imagine a 2 cylinder engine having as strong an engine with a top end like the 848evo. Even if you test ride one, if it's accompanied, you won't be allowed to sample the best bits of either engine. All brilliant, but the triumph is better than the

[@BlackPedagogue]

The fact that the R6 did so well in the comparison, proves how awesome it is.

[@Pinkycrust]

I just sold my 06 r6, now I want an 848 evo : )

[@HolyMoleyJoelyPoley]

This is one of MCN's best videos!! (Im talking technically, not content.) Well filmed, well edited, great quality, great array of cameras. Hope they keep it up. Also, liked how you tested each bike accurately and fairly, eliminating the variables and getting to the core of each bikes performance.

[@RidingsRides]

This report is almost 3 years old, the Triumph 675 now delivers over 120 hp and is a completely updated bike for 2013. Love to see a re-run of this comparo

[@LeonardoAriasMarquez]

We don’t need it, everyone’s knows that 675r beat them from the beginning.

[@africanhistory]

R6 he said was comfortable, that is funny. the other two, which i have not ridden must be hell on 2 wheels

[@skyline44512]

AHS Society haha good point. I find the R6 the least comfortable of the 600s, but still much more comfortable than the 848. I have not hidden the 675 yet :(

[@cdsmith1990]

Twins and inlines works totally differently though in the way that they produce power. Like how the 675cc triple Daytona competes with the 600cc I4 Jap bikes, the 848cc twin Ducati is an equal competitor. Very different engines, CC's aren't the only thing to look at ;)

[@_juan_hundred]

getting better whit the vids ! congrats!!!!

[@SnowgodCCR]

Great job man, understanding that they're all the same class of bike, aimed at the same market, and directly compete with each other.

[@ChrisHammerr]

I normally don't post, but this video is right up my alley. I've always had Japanese sportbikes with my most recent being a 2004 R6, and 2006 GSXR600. I wanted something different this go around, and was wanting another V-Twin. Ducati/Aprilia were the obvious choices, however, I found the Triumph by accident and it was instant love. I picked up a new D675 this past Tuesday, and have 260 miles on the clock thus far. Absolutely stunning machine in the twisty stuff. Cant wait to finish break-in. :)

[@EliasTheHunter]

Time for an update after 12 years! How did the Daytona hold up?

[@MiGAngeI]

A bigger cc bike is faster than smaller cc bikes. A more expensive bike has better components than a cheaper one. Thanks MCN keep up the in depth reporting.

[@jesselee4405]

Wow, you're a really fun guy to hang out with............ NOT

[@CustomcrowdMitroc]

just angry the europeans can still build a better bike the the japs?

[@toliver.99]

Please do another when the 765 comes out between it and the 959 & new r6! Would be great

[@FirstClassCitizen_]

I've rode many 600cc bikes over a decade ago (no litre bikes), but haven't rode since until I bought my 2012 848 Evo a couple of months ago. Technology now has advanced leaps and bounds since then. This is the first bike I've ever owned. It's still being broken in, so it's been restricted. Considering that it's a middle weight bike, it's torquey enough get around town without it being a pain. It rides very smooth, looks fantastic, and you'll get compliments/looks all the time.

[@tosgem]

The 675R was 1 second quicker than the 848EVO around the same track, in another video. Dont know what tyres were on them though. ALSO, 848cc is definitely too much to compare to the R6 or 675, even if it's a twin. The Supersports class is 600cc 4 cl, 675cc 3cyl, or 750cc 2cyl.

[@daytonarider318]

Love my R. I was looking at the 848, and it is priced cheaper than the 675R. I just love the feel and power of the R. Super steady torque curve and constant delivery of power all the way up the tach. Highly adjustable ohlins suspension, and great brembos up front. After ditching the OEM exhaust and putting a 2bros CF slip on to the rear, I dropped 14 lbs off the bike and am sitting at about 395 wet. LOVE THIS BIKE!

[@dennisprow7576]

I recall leaving naval air station Pensacola on my ducati 848 and as soon as I got out of sight of the gate guards I hid it came around a corner rolled on the throttle and that front and started to shake something fierce. I can identify with that heavy rear end but boy was that a fun bike

[@CaenFilms]

Perfect comparison TY

[@briankumeroa5854]

Yes... Speed, velocity, comfortability and personal opinion with real life pov experience... Great comparison 😃

[@Archerke]

@usmw1 btw which ducati do you have? have you ridden the 848 evo? is it really that great? to be honest, i've never been on a twin in my life, my previous bike was a gsxr k6, but i really want a twin this time, and i like this ducati.. but people say it's more difficult to ride than a 600cc 4-cilinder, is this true?

[@fredericobpc]

@arjvi ...thanks for the reply i hadn't thought of that, it makes perfect sense!

[@Gersao2axe]

Very good review

[@nick_pappagiorgio]

Good video, I wish you guys would invest in some remote mics though - it makes a world of difference for sound quality.

[@Konstantinos340]

i have the 08 r6, love it but hate it coz you need to rev it to get anywhere. not so comfy when youre cruising in the centre of town

[@chrisashby32]

Triumph for sure,

[@TychoCelchu]

@JACKtheRIPP3R189 That's why I went for the 848, instead of an 1198. My 999S was another dry clutch bike and could get a bit snatchy when it got hot. The wet clutch on the 848 makes a big difference and the power/gearing is better suited to road riding. As for comfort, I found my Fireblade to be more uncomfortable than the 848. Plus the low down grunt of a twin is so addictive.

[@FrenchJohn]

Isit me or MCN becomes what it supposed to become long time ago? I mean proper bike review ANNNDDD a Proper CAMERA!!! Finally!!

[@MrDsheel]

I just love the screamer!

[@SpudsMcHaggis]

The Duke should be compared to a GSXR 750 to be fair since it is not a supersport at all!

[@FrenchJohn]

@pjdaprinz I so agree with you mate! A proper sound quality! I can see they're evolving now that they've heard our complains..

[@fofalooza]

Have to agree with others. The vid quality is excellent. Love that 848!

[@LeonardoAriasMarquez]

I saw 256 on the R6 VS 257 km on the Daytona. In my opinion both bikes are great machines, if you like an R6 is a beautiful and best good looking of all 600cc “with a powerful engine and good chasis, in the other hand the Daytona 675R is a track bike with great suspension and brakes and the best engine performance, it is a matter of taste!

[@CanyonChasers]

@daRealCrazy Yep, the brakes are different and with all the engine mods, Cycle World registered 1.6 more hp from the EVO than the non-EVO.

[@destined2sleep]

why only 250 kmh??, my 09 675 has done 271 kmh, and it had a little more left, only mod is racing windshield and jardine slip on exhaust. Did i somehow get a more powerful engine than other 675's??

[@Shogun09R1]

Cool vid...that Ducati in black is catching my eye. Dear Santa......

[@JACKtheRIPP3R189]

@TychoCelchu Indeed, I haven't read a single review of the 848/1098/1198 where it's been called anything but beautiful (even if they complain about it being uncomfortable or whatever). It's simply a head-turning piece of functional art. I didn't like the looks of the 999/749 but they were great bikes. I recently traded an f4 for an 1198s Corse edition to get in some serious track time. As much as i love ducs though still kept my cbr600rr for going around town, ducs hate traffic.

[@shebbinho]

did i understand correctly that it is said the r6 is more comfortable than the others? i remember hearing a lot of times that the r6 is comparing to the other 600cc bikes like the cbr, gsxr or zx6r very uncomfortable and a strict track bike? can someone get this straight? :)

[@pjggregory]

does anybody know what sort of bike, at around 600cc, has decent torque. what sort of bike has power in any gear what eva the revs?? any help please

[@bmwe92m]

@TychoCelchu You're right. My bad. Got confused coz it's a 2011 model but indeed it already got released in the summer of 2010.

[@papajoejo81]

I own the same R6 but in black, and Im falling in love with the Ducati... I don't mind owning both bikes in the near future ;)

[@GriffXJ]

does the 848 have a kickstand?

[@Falhok]

Should I still buy this bike (2012)?

[@WilsonGomez]

@nextlcup wow not bad, i love the r6 but if i was to buy a new bike from the dealer i would consider the ducati.you get alot more

[@Chumly409]

@StraightR1Chaos That's really a great, but nagging question though. The tq from the 848 allows me to keep sharper lines because it powers out better than others in their class. HP is for straights, Tq is for cornering. The 100FtLb R1 is a ripping Superbike and is top5 IMO (I think I gave it #2 in a duc forum). When looking at 600/750, I chose the best I felt was out there. I'm no Ben Spies, so until then I have the best tool for the job at stake. LOL, and I'm a Honda guy :p

[@thewooginator83]

@canyonchaser The bumped up compression does a good bit though.

[@scottevans14]

@TaengooVer9 depends one what tires you have on them.... will say right on the sides of the tires.

[@Chumly409]

@SERKANUSA Looks are relative. I'm a big fan of CBR's, but when shopping I felt the R6 was the best looking of the big 4 as well. The RC51 style central intakes make sense, but is a horrible styling wart it seems. Visually, I still like the intakes on the side(s) and can be engineered around that choice. Just got my 848 Evo and love it. Some say they're uncomfortable, but I set up all my bikes with purpose so it's right at home for me. It seems when you get it in it's environment, it's spot on.

[@mistreku]

So basically, 850cc>675>599. Mind blown! Thank fuck for reviews!

[@UWfalcin]

Fantastic 🤘🏼

[@crazyboy8875]

Great job man,comparing 600,675 and 848...!!!you should've thrown a 1000 also to make the picture complete.

[@ironDsteele]

R6 comfortable? Let me tell you that is not a fact.

[@little07christiano]

Relativity. Comfortable among the three. I wouldn't know....but thats what he said.

[@ironDsteele]

I do, I own two

[@little07christiano]

As i said i would not know. I just have the 2013 Daytona 675 ABS.

[@ironDsteele]

That's a nice bike, I sat on one at a bike show and liked it. I liked the Ducati 848 the least.

[@KingCast65]

No worries mate it's All Good. My housemate BTW was a MASTER Ducati/Alfa guy. Google Lajos Silberstein. I got to briefly ride his vintage 900 punched out to 996, race slicks, battery zip tied to the frame, all of that. Incredible machines they are!

[@boingkster]

@jfrost2114 Supersport ruling is based on maximum power output and technical specification to keep the playing field even for different types of engines. You can run a liquid cooled, double overhead camshaft 4cyl 600, 3cyl 675 or 850 2cyl bike. You can also run an aircooled, single overhead camshaft 1200cc 2cyl (think Harley Davidson XR1200) or an aircooled, pushrod-actuated overhead valve 1350cc 2cyl! That last category is as yet uncontended, although Moto Guzzi are developing a bike for it.

[@siekiersk]

@barcode0954 not all 600's and the ones that do are all stock .with tuning and after market parts some bike can be push passed red line.

[@DuranXL]

@MrFlyahh I'm just pointing out that cubics don't say all.. It's all about configuration, engine type, gearing etcetc.

[@denvertube123]

even though the cc diference is big, the horse power is pretty similiar on all of em and they have diferent numbers of cylinders. sorry for my bad english, i hope i made my point here

[@Guli1415]

I LUV ALL OF THEM !!!!

[@TurboHerbal]

@destined2sleep the testing was done on a racetrack, the straight was probably not long enough to reach top speed

[@DrMarki337]

yes i have an r6 and it is my first bike i would highly recommend it

[@TychoCelchu]

@bmwe92m Wrong. The 848 Evo came out in mid 2010. If you watched the video, you would see that it says 848 Evo on the fairing. The lettering is also in black, whilst the lettering on the old 848 was white.

[@Mockle07]

Yeah was going to say the same, I prefer the 675 but can get why some people don't get on with it. I ran a CBR600F for commuting and an R6 for thrashing on the road and track. I'm getting a 675 to replace the R6 duties and another CBR600F for taking the Mrs out and touring etc Keep it rubber down and all that

[@abbassiazzedine4122]

I want your opinion ( everyone ) which one looks better triumph Daytona 675 2012 or Yamaha R6 2012 or Suzuki GSXR k7 750 Please I want to buy one and I'm stuck, please help me decide

[@robertshehu]

Daytona

[@pjdaprinz]

@jhb972 Don't forget the sound quality. You can actually understand what's being said.

[@JACKtheRIPP3R189]

@MOOSERVERTE "a lot more cc" v-twins generally require more cc to make the same amount of power, it's a different type of engine from an inline four. Yet it's both thinner and lighter than many bikes with less cc.

[@Livelifechill]

@bmwe92m at 1:43 in the vid you can read that's its a 848 evo not an 848.

[@ehormann238]

just because its there doesnt mean its directly comparable, and whhat else would you recomend you compare the last two to, you come up with a better idea and im sure theyll do it.

[@jfrost2114]

@boingkster so basically what youre saying is all the bikes in this challenge have the same amount of horsepower ?

[@Harakai100]

Can you explain to me why the 750 aint a supersport?

[@magnus_nara]

@shebbinho yeah i heard that too, but then in the past you didnt really hear alot from ducatti.. and yes the suzuki, hinda and kawasaki are very comfertable bikes, but i dont think they were as good as thr r6, but i think this yeah the gsxr 600 is the best? but i donno if that includes comfort, hope it helped

[@ArshadMehmood115]

848 is a thing of beauty!...

[@TychoCelchu]

@JACKtheRIPP3R189 Very true. Whenever I go to a bike shop and park up outside, people alway stop and look at the 848. It's definitely a conversation starter. My old 999S was more of an acquired taste. Also the best handling bike that I've ever ridden.

[@noahadams4000]

what year was that ducati 848 evo

[@MrZ163]

Noah Adams 1987

[@sellars46]

WELL SAID

[@usmw1]

@usmw1 But the bikes are very stable and powerful, they have a lot of torque and the riding style takes a little getting use to from the 4's. I think 600’s are harder to ride hard, because you have to keep the rpm’s at the boiling point and the bike move around more (not as stable). So no, the 848 Evo is not hard to ride unless your planning to cruse around town with your girl friend at 30 mph. I hope that answers some of your questions.

[@bmwe92m]

I'm afraid the title of this video is a bit misleading. The Ducati tested is a 2010 848. The 848 EVO is its replacement and came out in 2011 with 6 BHP more and better brakes.

[@JoeriInghels]

I love the R6, nice job!

[@eaglesdood16]

@titoridesr6 nice analogy!

[@YarekBalear]

This video is testament to the supersports bike and the problems they suffer with sales. The 848 "wins" because of track performance, but the vast majority of these bike sales will be to ride on the road. It sounds like the R6 is probably the most usable road supersports, which is a shame as I really like the 848 but probably wouldn't get near a track most of the time.

[@usmw1]

@Archerke I currently own a 1098R, before that I had a GSXR750, GSXR1000, Honda1000R, R1, and a FZR600. I’ve tested the 848 not the 848 Evo, the Evo should be even better and I liked the 848. These bikes are only hard to ride at slow speeds and yes they are uncomfortable. These bike were not designed for comfort, but for speed. The 1098 is hard to ride on twisty roads, moving the bike from side to side is a lot of work.

[@JACKtheRIPP3R189]

@TychoCelchu I honestly never cared much about comfort since it's not really the point of a sport bike anyway. A lot of it has to do with the rider's height and weight. The clutch is a bit jerky, and in traffic it vibrates a lot and gets pretty damn hot. I considered an 848 but i wasn't really buying it as a daily road bike, if i didn't have the honda as a back up and i just wanted one bike i probably would have got the 848. Yeah you really get more usable power with the twins, plus the sound...

[@Purpose_Bilt]

@Shogun09R1 the black on is the triumph... nice bike... i dunno much about it.

[@Mockle07]

Can't argue with that mate, Ducati's are pretty expensive for what you get. It all depends what you want; some people want character some exhaust noise etc. The great thing is that there's something out there for everyone. I love the look of most Yams, not sure about the current R1 but hey styling's about as subjective as it gets. I'm going to go for a Triumph 675R next...

[@pmrowe22]

@2006R6s @2006R6s The fuel injected models were 2003 to 2006... but they made one year carb in 2002. The 2002 zx636 was the same body style as the 2000, 2001 models though.

[@mikepandy29]

i have a ducati 848 black metallic , its amazing the r6 and the triumph are great to but the ducati is what i have my dad bought me it for my birthday i am 19 and this bike is the #BOMB.

[@Bulgdoom]

The Ducatis are like Mercs, somewhat more expensive than the competition, but the real cost is in the maintenance

[@Shogun09R1]

@thestrokeds10 Oh yeah, I know bro. I just meant that the Duc in the black matte finish is really catching my eye when I see it. Thanks for the heads up. I don't know much about t either...but man is it sexy looking :)

[@ZZPxFTW]

r6 for sound and refinement, 848 for sound and looks. ducatis are such beautiful bikes

[@Mockle07]

You're right about the GSX-R750, but the 848 is not in the "supersports" class either. Ducati have only homologated the old 748 in World Supersport, never the 848. The only reason the 848 is compared with these bikes is that there's nothing directly comparible to it.

[@Mockle07]

But the CBR is slower and has no character in comparison (I used to have a CBR600RR - and loved it, not just trolling). The suspension in the 675 can be softened for road use and is like a magic carpet when done properly. The CBR is a more rounded bike but it's nowhere near as involving to ride, it just depends what you want in a bike... I'd rather do a long touring trip on a CBR I know that much, but for track days or a 2 hour weekend blat it'd be the 675 every time for me

[@mikeknight456]

@TychoCelchu Hey Tycho I agree with you! If I can also add that the insurance cost and cost of an 848 evo vs.1198 is dramatically more expensive. I can probably justify a 848 but a 1198 is definitely out of my price range. So that's my reason. It's the cheapest way to get into a Ducait superbike and feel awesome (brand new superbike that is). :)

[@ZoneTelevision]

Beauty, Power, Grace, ... thy name is Ducati

[@Mockle07]

Let me clear something up - I don't think the CBR600RR is a tourer; it's a sports bike through and through. However, thanks to it's smooth engine and relitively comfortable riding position it's a better option than the other 600s (and 675) if you want to do any sort of distance.

[@ih8momjokes1]

@christrails look at the sv650, ninja650, gs500, all bikes that are beginner bikes made to learn on with enough power to stay with the bike for the next couple of years. imo, suzuki sv650 is the best beginner bike money can buy. also most popular bike in my neighborhood

[@crazyboy8875]

This goes both ways isn't it?!!!

[@crazyboy8875]

oh yeah and 848 is like the definition of supersport right?dream on...

[@Chumly409]

@davimifs Why WSS? Because WSS doesn't allow 848's to compete due to just that. Let's not mention WSB though, as that might go the other direction (Checa, #1, Duc) or Super stock (Giugliano, #1, Duc) ;) Piston velocity has to do with rod length and swing, not bore diameter. So how about valve float if we're talking higher revs? Desmo's have had that under control for decades.

[@javierrobles1999]

me quedo con Daytona lo mejor de lo mejor...saludos desde tijuana bc mexico.

[@JACKtheRIPP3R189]

@pmrowe22 I would agree if they were involved in an actual competitive race, but this is a review directed at consumers. They're all roughly the same weight and price range, the 848 is a v-twin i never said the 675 was

[@sportbikeuser767]

The reason they compared these bikes is that they are in the same "supersport" Racing class. Triumph has 3 cylinders, Yam has 4, Ducati has 2. In order to make it fair they allow extra cc for the triumph and more for the ducati.