DUCATI Dry Clutch Mod - Important Information

[@wemel007]

With that calm and clear voice of yours, I could listen to you "waffling" all day. Once again, great video and superb information! Thx!

[@paulg9314]

Toine certainly knows his clutches. It's a pleasure to watch a master craftsman at work.

[@toinevandenbiggelaar6083]

Thnx

[@frankpeutz9106]

Thanks Toine! Nice you took the trouble to show us how it's done and how it works (although I have to watch it a few times more to completely understand why and how). Good you asked Andy to mention which Ducatis it concerned (dry clutches with the clutch slave on the left). Only thing not completely clear to me is how the narrow convex steel ring that Biggelaar supply and which placed between the hub and the clutch plates stays centered. Again thanks and for those who don't Van den Biggelaar (more than 3 generations) are a famous Ducati tuner since 1966 (that's 1 year before the first Desmo production Ducati was introduced!!!). Oh and before that they were already 13 year in the business of motorcycle maintenance, so they have a rock solid reputation in the Ducati world. Thanks for taking your time to show us how to make your modification work! Frank

[@DaveMurphyEngineer]

Awesome and bloody informative. It's easy to just say 'it works' but to actually explain the how and why it works is extremely generous of you both. Big thanks to Toine as well for putting his video portion together, even after a few false starts.

[@georgestewart1325]

I have learned a lot about ducati dry clutches from your channel.. Always baffled me when i heard that rattling noise from them now i know why.. Great channel Andy..

[@fabiopunk1661]

I don’t spend much time at idle when I sit on this bike However this video is informative and gives a lot of insight. For this I am grateful. Thanks

[@minigpracing3068]

That tool made from the steel plate is a good idea, going to need to keep that in mind for some other services on other motors.

[@DesmoWerx]

A really useful video for standard clutch owners - Lots of experience shared 👍😎

[@ANDY5]

Thanks Adam, I’m hanging out to see what you’re doing with that ST2

[@DesmoWerx]

@@ANDY5 Hi Andy, I will be doing the first video to talk through plans for the bike on Friday 😊

[@richardmcaneny8919]

Bit of an odd one this, straight up and I don’t mind sharing, dreamt that you came to the uk and checked out my TRX850 (that I don’t have now) while having roast beef and peppers for breakfast. You liked the bike but hated the headlight! I then woke up by snoring wife, took dog for walk. Great videos Andy, hope all good in Taz!!

[@munter10]

Random! I wake from dreams like that too . . you are not alone lol.

[@ANDY5]

That’s just a little creepy fellas 😂

[@MrMattofsweden]

Interesting stuff. I should have a look through the clutches more frequently.. I so wish Toine would come back to KZbin and show off some cool builds, tips and tricks. That guy is a gold mine.

[@ANDY5]

Stay tuned

[@paulrixson5828]

Great video guys , hope you and your families are well ,

[@steven8-stones719]

Toine is a master! I have the conversation installed on My s4r,works great Thank for explanation video Andy!

[@kennethdudley3197]

Did he say if that encased bearing has play like that, the whole case needs replaced? Does the bearing damage the case in that example or would you just replace the bearing?

[@robbroy]

Sweet video sir, absolutely great. I have 1098 with that beautiful tamborine needing disassembly and inspection - taking notes from your vid. Cheers from Brissy

[@ANDY5]

Thanks mate, Toowoomba born Beenleigh raised myself.

[@rsbharley4766]

Great video Andy & Toine, lots of great info. Thanks for sharing. Cheers

[@james.shafiei]

Hey mate, thanks for the video. Just to save you the heartache in the future I thought I’d let you know that screen recording any kind of call on an iPhone/iPad will never have audio attached as it is a privacy feature on the device. You will need to use an external recorder for the audio. Cheers

[@nightster6378]

Thanks, Andy and Toine. Anyone in the Uk waiting for one won't be an issue, we cant go out. Unless its to work.

[@ronzelina6682]

G Day from the Goldie Andy, Sikaflex 291 is the black stuff I'd recomend for those with alloy baskets doing Toine's Mod. Non slumping Marine non sag 1-C polyurethane sealant. Good adhesive with some okay vibration absorbing qualities. Lov'in your work on the channel Andy, Bravo Zulu

[@spinmakers]

That's the thing, Toine's paper instructions he sent with the mod he just says best used with heat resistant kit which isn't clear to me. Thanks for this info. I'm in the Goldie too.

[@spinmakers]

I spoke to Toine & he said heat resistant adhesive so Sikaflex and LOCTITE 80ML HIGH TEMPERATURE SUPERFLEX GASKET SEALANT will do the job. "Most important is that it stays sort of flexible after drying and that it can handle the heat"

[@spinmakers]

Actually the Sikaflex doesn't look to be heat resistant.

[@thecaptainschannel9221]

thank you for the video im now much better informed about ducatis infamous dry clutch basically modify the clutch to get rid of the racket ducati would charge you alot probabely for the work ......excellent work now i need to get a ducati ....so beautiful so expensive so italian......i want one

[@henkmarinus]

Dank je wel Toine. Handig nu ik nieuwe platen installeer.

[@geoffrossi]

Good Vid... One thing though. Toine is very experienced, he can get away with starting a thread using power tools. I wouldn't recommend that to new players... fast way to cross threading...

[@toinevandenbiggelaar6083]

haha Thnx

[@troywee4774]

thanks for explaining that mate, i love learning stuff! great vid. thanks.

[@bigdaddy741098]

You've convinced me, I need this mod 😁👍👊

[@toinevandenbiggelaar6083]

no problem just send me a Email or PM message on Facebook, I am almost ready with the production of all the necessary parts that are needed for the clutch

[@martinhogan5970]

Toine van den biggelaar what is the cost to us in the USA

[@toinevandenbiggelaar6083]

@@martinhogan5970 modification 100 euro shipping outside Europe is 30 euro

[@marktmeyer]

@@toinevandenbiggelaar6083 How can we order one? How do you want payment made?

[@mauricevandoeselaar]

Toine, je bent echt heer en meester als het om ducati gaat.

[@kris4362]

Andy/ Toine ......... well done guys ....... 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 (Hokitika Sth Island NZ)

[@munter10]

Hey! my daughter lives at Blue Spur Hokitika, great spot!

[@gsenna472]

Toine rules !!! nice job Andy!

[@grahambrown5874]

Does the added friction cause any addition heat and a problem for the clutch and quick shifter?

[@matthewporter3724]

barnett makes one like it .. I have it on mine and I hate it.. this idea looks a lot better. I actually like the stock clutch even though its noisy as hell...lol

[@KevsShed]

Cracking Video as always Andy! I do have a question about the clutch on these bikes and please feel free to tell me that I am a flaming idiot! How come the last plate before the pressure plate goes on is a steel plate on these Ducatis? Is this unique to dry clutches? I have never had the pleasure of working on a Ducati or a dry clutch so I am curious! Of all the clutches that I have changed, the last plate has always been a friction plate. Many Thanks

[@toinevandenbiggelaar6083]

its very simple, the pressure plate is connected to the aluminium hub, if you would finish with a friction plate everytime you would start driving away say from a traffic light or so the pressure plate is not turning and the friction plate is, is that way the pressure plate would wear out like crazy, with the steel plate this doesn't happen as both are on the same part of the clutch so they stop together or they spin together, but most wet clutches are operated by a fork or a lever inside the clutch cover Ducati clutches are pushed from the opposite side of the engine by a pushrod that goes trough the gearbox axle .

[@KevsShed]

@@toinevandenbiggelaar6083 You know what Toine, as soon as you said the pressure plate is connected to the aluminium hub it became obvious! I should have paid more attention! Cheers buddy! ;)

[@AirwolfBMG]

So amazing aftermarket parts and out of the box thinking going on there, 👍👍🇬🇧

[@elmoomle4565]

Noooo! I love my 'klac klac klac klac klac klac" soundtrack at idle !!

[@ANDY5]

Stay on top of it or wear the consequences. Thanks for watching mate.

[@hermankroon7803]

My clutch was at least as bad as the example one. 😄. Although I have chosen an evr 48t still interesting video. It's so full of the best tips. I will be watching other videos as well,

[@H-M-78]

Reminds of the anti judder and spring seat on Busa 2002 and on. But that's a wet clutch.

[@russcole5685]

You're a wealth of information, thank you ever so much for these tips and advice. On another note, I've a 64 mountaineer that I have running and ready to register, only thing I really need to complete is the rear saddle rack, number plate mounting, and tail light assembly, any leads to would be much appreciated if you can spread the word that I'm after these rare pieces

[@ANDY5]

Geez, good luck with that mate

[@russcole5685]

@@ANDY5 yup thanks man, been a thirty year project, started it when I was 12, now 44, it runs and rides like a dream, got a simple light on the rear, but I'm looking to complete it with as close to original as possible. Againd, thanks for your videos

[@Hector55Munoz]

Now I feel like everything is wrong with my clutch on 98' 748 Mono. Fired her up after 2 years, I hear a strange wining.. or similar to the sound of compression when turning over an engine.. engine runs great otherwise. I took apart the clutch cover which had a torn gasket, and low and behold she's all rustic inside. Cleaned up, degreased and buffed all I could for now but I'm thinking of buying a Slipper Clutch by KBike...

[@The5118]

ok first of all great vid, tons of great information and very well put together. just one Question. how much play in the input shaft bearing is acceptable? if any?

[@kevinfletcher7471]

Just ordered one from toine 🤞👌

[@LarsWallgren]

Great video!! Just received my mod kit from Toine. Does anyone have the torq values for the basket screws, the center nut and the pressure plate screws? Do I need loctite anywhere?

[@divsidhu7083]

Where did you buy it from?

[@LarsWallgren]

Biggelaar Special Performance. I just installed it. Sounds perfect now. All the clacking racket gone. Haven’t gone for a testride yet

[@LarsWallgren]

Went for a testride the other day. The Biggelaar clutch mod works great. No more clacking and great feel. Easier to ride at low speed, gear 1 and 2.

[@ANDY5]

What Lars said.

[@lordemed1]

ok, with all the problems of a dry clutch, why did Ducati use it?

[@michaelhevezi7273]

That intro kills me!

[@echo9996]

What is the name of the Company that dose the modification parts for the clutch?

[@ANDY5]

Biggelaar Performance, links are in the video description. You will need to either message them on Facebook or email them if you wish to order one.

[@nealebradford6417]

nice one andy, very usefull.

[@emgeesea3983]

Since you took the side case off, any tips re how to best apply gasket seal to the side case when reinstalling it? I had to remove my side case, and I’ve reinstalled it twice now and keep getting small oil leaks around the right side screw holes. I’m about to try it for the third time, but not sure what I’m doing wrong! (I’m doing this with the engine mounted on the bike, not on a bench.) Any help would be appreciated. Thx.

[@Hector55Munoz]

Clean and dry well, then try a little line of black rtv gasket maker around the edges of the cover...

[@terrymissler7829]

How do I get the kit for my 749?

[@artmchugh5644]

In 400.000 miles on 2 ducatis I messed with noisy clutches a few times 😄😄😄😄 I had a disc made at a waterjet company ," 1/8 Thick stainless steel , with a tight clearance on the basket tang the banging of the clutch was eliminated.

[@ricvanwinkle1665]

What model bikes did you put those miles on. I want to buy a 2000 900 SS with 7K and it looks showroom and was stored indoors. Are those bikes bikes you can log high miles

[@umbertoecho1]

@@ricvanwinkle1665 Yes. My 1999 900SS has 86K on her and I read recently that someone had 196K on theirs. (Hope you bought that machine :)

[@josealexandre5768]

Will it work on da Ducati 750ss from 1997? Thanks for the help Andy, your awesome! Greatings from Portugal

[@ANDY5]

Aren’t they a wet clutch?

[@josealexandre5768]

@@ANDY5 yes it is. It’s possível to do that Mod in a wet clutch? A feel the same thing in low reps..

[@ANDY5]

No it is not compatible with a wet clutch arrangement

[@josealexandre5768]

@@ANDY5 ok. Thanks Andy! 👍🏻

[@geauxfast8u2]

Twan seems like he’s done what he does in his sleep. But he goes a bit fast, that’s fine I’m just like the tomato that’s lagging behind Waiting for some foot to come down on me splattering me in every direction As a voice says ketchup! Thanks for the help , I would like to get this mod done to my 2003 749s How much will it cost me????? Please 🙏 thanks , I think it’s aluminum , but probably wrong 🤷‍♂️ IDK

[@discovolante9440]

how can one get the kit?

[@alankathy6175]

Thanks for sharing Andy. Keep up the good work mate.

[@JasonSimonSmith]

Proper.

[@apistosig4173]

awesome

[@frankmcaleer9923]

Looks like a good modification, only problem is i,ll need four of them.🤑🤑🤑

[@toinevandenbiggelaar6083]

Could make you a package deal 😇😇

[@banditnev]

If he worked out that mod he is very clever.

[@toinevandenbiggelaar6083]

Thnx.. we did this in our company so its not only me who came up with the Idea, my dad was also involved in the prosess

[@stevesane800]

Well explained Andy! Now get out & ride the classic Ducati & don’t sell it no matter what!

[@kururu1334]

HI I WANT UPGRADE MY DUCATI V2 . DUCATI V2 IS WET CLUTCH I WANT CHARGE TO DRY CLUTCH . CAN BE DO IT? PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME . THANKS KURURU

[@flexjay87]

My question would be, why would Ducati Engineering allow this to leave production like this, when clearly , many riders, would presumably complain about the sound, not to mention the wear and tear from the play, in an important mechanical device.

[@ANDY5]

Not much QC in the ‘90’s at Ducati, they were on the bones of their arse. They suffered in a few areas and didn’t really come good until after the Cagiva sale. You may find this interesting kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZOlmH-jZtF5d6c

[@axakias]

Hi Andy...how can we buy this clutch mod? In their site there isn't a link that we can order it.

[@toinevandenbiggelaar6083]

Email or PM tough Facebook, e-mail is on our website

[@axakias]

@@toinevandenbiggelaar6083 Ok , thank's a lot.

[@gman3725]

I need this mod too. And I don’t have any steels for a Ducati, could you send me an old steel as well so I can make a tool?

[@ANDY5]

G Man if you wish to order a kit and speak to Toine about a steel plate go to their Facebook page, link in the video description, and message them.

[@gman3725]

Andy's Motorcycle Obsessions Thanks!

[@anthonytempongko1291]

Know how = knowledge Knowing how to = Skill SEPARATES THE SHEEP FROM THE GOAT !

[@DotWorld80]

Can you work on my bike please

[@aspectcarl]

Latest versions of Android prevent apps from accessing the audio channel, probably best to record the conversation acoustically rather than via a bit stream

[@ANDY5]

I use iOS

[@aspectcarl]

Ah, would appear Apple have also put this limitation in place, in the name of security.

[@WalterdaLima]

in this case......

[@codename_wind_official]

Take a breath, relax

[@SibrenDVchannel]

Is het filmpje versneld? 18:00 of heb je ADHD😂.. ik word een beetje erg onrustig als ik hier naar kijk😱

[@billrandell4641]

A 900SS is NOT for the buyer who wants a maintenance free bike...To keep one at 99% you WILL be "tinkering" with something every week...I've used that "upgrade" package with great results...👍👍👍🇺🇸

[@scotsmith8810]

HACK!