Dumb Criminal Crushed Her Cousin To Death | The Bizarre Interrogation of Veronica Posey

She knows what she did, but she has no idea what's about to happen...
Despite being a lively and charming nine-year-old who brought happiness to those around her, Dericka Chavonne Lindsay faced constant criticism from her foster parents, James and Grace Smith. One night, Veronica Posey, a cousin of Grace, received a call from the Smiths about difficulties disciplining Dericka, who had allegedly threatened them with a knife. Posey drove to their home and restrained Dericka by sitting on her. Although Dericka desperately cried out that she couldn't breathe, Posey remained seated for over six minutes, leaving the girl unresponsive by the time she moved.
This is the interrogation of Veronica Posey.
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[@CharityPugh-e1g]

These grownups tag teamed beating this baby! She got whooped with a belt, a ruler and sat on by 320lbs... disgusting.

[@mkmitchell1319]

This is so sad but i couldn't stop laughing at the last part. God forgive me.

[@2-pistols]

They watch too much WWE

[@apenni62467-e]

Your right

[@DSP_Gaming0]

​@@mkmitchell1319which part?

[@aufgewacht3547]

What is a ruler?

[@cynthiaconnors183]

She says, "Respect your elders." None of those elders DESERVED respect.

[@chajaki]

Imagine blaming a child for being “abusive” while you’re in an interrogation for abusing them so bad they died…

[@figz6]

my thoughts exactly!!

[@amusedBYfools]

Don't dismiss the fact that every adult in that house has been beat in the same way. Its generational, this type of discipline. Children aren't supposed to have their own mind. I agree, it's wrong. It's always been wrong.

[@sunnyadams5842]

​@@amusedBYfoolsAhhhh so - yea- we taking tgat into account. Now what??

[@KaiLucasZachary]

@@sunnyadams5842 Now you try to get your state to actually care about children in foster care and about actually paying social workers and teachers instead of considering them glorified babysitters. "Defund the police" only does so much good.

[@HA-em7wd]

Truer words never spoken....well said.

[@vladimiremason3441]

admitting to police you beat a child with a pipe and acting like its normal is a huge red flag

[@amusedBYfools]

That's not what happened.

[@bethoneybee]

She said it was a 'light pipe' just to add a little weight like that's ok then. Evil. 😡

[@sunyangsghost9523]

she done give her a whoopin

[@traveltm]

I heard that and it’s crazy. So not actually a ruler. So not hit with ruler but actually beat with a PIPE!!

[@tphvictims5101]

I’ve been through worse. I at 70 years old am surprised I survived. My scars run deep to the bone.

[@cathypoags9054]

Can u imagine she was called to hold or restrain a child in order for someone to beat/torture her. All adults should be charged!!

[@robinette64]

They were eventually all charged / convicted.

[@cynthiaconnors183]

When I lived in housing years ago, te front door of a neighbor's house was open. The mom's friend was holding the little girl while mom was slapping the daylights out of her. It was horrible to see that assault. It must be their way.

[@serif392]

​@@cynthiaconnors183Did you call the police?

[@tinajackson6875]

@@cynthiaconnors183 Did you call the police, did you try to help? no it's not their way it comes from the slave master.

[@nursebev2249]

It’s insane. Poor little girl.

[@Kim-k1176]

When she say that child was fighting, bucking, rolling, and running, she means the child was trying to escape while she still had her life.

[@JamiePoynor]

Heartbreaking

[@SuperLEOLADY1]

No she meant what she said, they should have sent her back to foster home

[@basbleupeaunoire]

Yep. Horrifying. And to know the 8 yo was right there! The trauma.

[@denisesmith8794]

She had me thinking she was talking about some horse or bull disgusting

[@1jazzyphae]

Hence why she threatened them with a knife if she did that. She was trying to protect herself and her younger sister. We need to protect theee kids at all cost. So many evil foster parents and parents. This is so sad

[@drewhollinshead1963]

" We don't know if she's faking it or if she's really not breathing" That's disgusting behavior...

[@Kōkako-i1t]

We can hear it, we don't need KZbin noobs repeating everything. But this is KZbin. Intelligence level is very low. V enjoy yourself. ☺️

[@neo_76564_]

Craziest thing I’ve heard in a while.

[@bobbyblair6862]

Typical behavior

[@ZZ_The_Boxing_Cat]

Stay tuned... ​@@neo_76564_

[@drewhollinshead1963]

It hit me hard, I have children around her age. Absolutely soul crushing..

[@tmckenny2994]

“I’m not going to jail behind no children”. Oh yes you are, woman!

[@heatheral-hammadi3046]

It’s not behind the children. It’s behind her actions as an adult.

[@revmsj]

Definitely not behind no churn, but that lil girl was 100% BEHIND her big @ss behind…😳 Thst ish there is def a lethal @ss weapon…🙄

[@OhheyitsmeTonya]

I was like, “Yeah…yeah you are!”

[@ByronBiscoe]

This what she gets for being a bully to kids😢

[@feversandmirrors]

​@@heatheral-hammadi3046 Behind her fat behind

[@cute4real846]

Can you imagine being terrorized, whooped, attacked by adults and then smothered ? House of horrors

[@valhershberger1958]

And the horrific thing is there are thousands, maybe millions, of children going through very similar scenarios right this very minute.

[@avishopkins8295]

😮😮😮 ❤❤

[@iamglow7]

I cant stop thinking about how she was trying to get through a locked door the night before. She was trying to escape, this poor child knew she was in danger 😢

[@Alie-kn4te]

❤

[@arithompson8962]

Absolutely she did. These "people" are vile.

[@lisamariejg641]

“So I asked James, I said James, help me restrain her for Grace to whoop her.” Nothing abnormal about that… 😣😳😡

[@pennyp7382]

Horrific abuse..constantly. still baby is being blamed. 😢

[@heidi.midget9880]

Yup all I hear is " she wouldn't let him abuse her so I tried to make her let us abuse her with a weapon"

[@inTruthbyGrace]

no... not abnormal at all.... that's the problem!

[@empressrennie9551]

That was one of the dumbest things she said.

[@crucial904]

Normal shit in most black house holds. My parents would beat me with extension cords while i was naked in the shower, hold me down and beat me if i ran, sat on me if i ran to beat me, verbal abuse among other horrible shit. Im currently in therapy.

[@ms_spinsesh]

When a 320lb woman sits on a 9 yr old begging for air and says "you're fine" I lose ALL care for what happens to that woman. Thats disgusting. The way she speaks so calmly about whooping her with different objects and 3 adults trying to restrain her for more beatings is crazy to me. The fact that she even thought to use a pipe with the ruler to make sure it doesnt break proves she has broken many rulers beating children. And STILL broke the ruler on her. All while telling this story like its normal everyday stuff. Jesus. What 9 yr old WOULDN'T try to get away from a situation like that and try to fight them off??? I know I absolutely would if that was my 9 yr old self! I can't understand how people dont see that beating your children like that will NEVER solve the problem. It will only make them hate you and act up even more. RIP to that poor child who sadly never got the chance to receive better care/guidance or to have a better life 🕊

[@KatieW916]

I agree How could anyone sit on top of a child knowing damn well that they cant breathe! she knew what she was doing. This woman absolutely disgusts me. she needs to check herself.

[@ragefilledvergin]

The Joe Biden Administration guidelines establish that 340 pounds is the maximum weight a person can be for sitting on a child to restrain them to apply corrective corporal punishment. This woman at 320 was well with the limit. It is pure racism that any criticism of her is based in.

[@loriegosnell9355]

Yep. I was am still am very damaged from it. Those types people love you on one hand … then beat you. Makes for a mental nightmare and emotional damage for Life.

[@ms_spinsesh]

@@loriegosnell9355 So sorry to hear, Lorie ❤️🙏🏽

[@figz6]

expecting children to behave with any amount of physical punishment is ridiculous! It’s been proven to not work, it only damages the kids and often leads to a lot of issues as adults (as well as repeating of the abuse cycle), so sad.

[@sheilal5852]

She’s speaking in such a soothing tone, as if that’s the way she spoke to the child. You know she was a screaming maniac and that child had to be scared out of her mind.

[@lisagrafton2529]

I imagine her sister has a totally different view of what happened, and how she treated her sister!

[@annpetersen7009]

Life in prison! Justice for sure.

[@pennyp7382]

SHE'S SO TYPICAL. 😢 Asking for help lil one....constantly being degraded. Terrified. Spanking is abuse.

[@lisagrafton2529]

@@pennyp7382 and that's how we have all the entitled young people today, who are not held accountable for the choices they make as 16-25 year olds!! They are not little victims! They grew up with no disciple, unless it was out of anger, not to correct the behavior!

[@Audfile]

I mean her voice is all scratchy from it.

[@FatherSonSpirit1]

The nail in the coffin was the suspect saying “she was squatting” you know dang well her 320 lb self can’t squat for more than two seconds.

[@laurenharris9832]

I was looking for this comment! She’s just poured into that damn chair. Ain’t no way she was on tippy toes at all

[@chrissyannnh1057]

Exactly so

[@22ergie]

If AT ALL...

[@arithompson8962]

FR. No way.

[@sophiasmith5715]

Not even to piss in a public bathroom😢😢😢

[@superflygirl]

The wildest thing is her telling the detective about all this horrific abuse like it’s normal discipline.

[@CamdalftheGreat]

Not defending this deplorable woman at all, but in truth, it's probably how she was raised as well.

[@LunaStreet]

How dare she try to resist and get away while you viciously beat and abuse her ?

[@ppw2393]

Imagine having a ruler and a pipe on hand to strike a child? Calling children manipulative because they don't want to be abused. Who knows what these kids suffered to get placed in foster care.

[@KatieW916]

I know RIGHT!

[@sorryifoldcomment8596]

Yeah, at that point it's simple self preservation, fight or flight taking over. She talks about it like she seriously thinks a child is choosing to be disrespectful by fleeing from being viciously beaten or fighting when being restrained during a beating. I've been in that position and you can consciously tell yourself to stay still, but your body will ignore you and instinctually resist on autopilot. It's the same system that causes us to uncontrollably flinch. You can try to purposefully put your hand into a fire, with the full intention & conscious desire to keep it there, and yet you will still experience your hand being pulled back due to an automatic response from your body which is uncontrollable! Even as a full grown sober adult. Totally delusional reaction to any natural resistance to pain, especially a child. 😡

[@bigboicreme]

Kid sounds like a handful, but the sitting was too much. Discipline can be good but not sitting on​@@ppw2393

[@kimberlylozano2881]

After auntie gets there she’s calm and good. But they still proceed to hold her down and i mean it was just “10 licks w the BELT” on top of her pipe & ruler. Wtf these old folks think beating a child is going to correct them. I was soanked as a child an all it did was instill FEAR in me to not get caught doing nothing that would make me get spanked. It does not discipline kids or make them act right. They may act right but it’s bc they fear what you will do to them. There is a difference in discipline and abuse, 10 licks w the belt is TOO much. Did auntie ever question WHY she was so good for everyone else but her adoptive parents? Kids don’t just act out for nothing. Something was going on. She probably knew they were disabled and could easily run from the abuse. They parents were old disabled and probably short fused an would get mad at anything. My pawpaw would blow up if we ran through the house as young kids. Old folks get mad over little things. If you want kids to respect you you should show respect to receive it. I have a 10yo son. He has learning disabilities and cognitive delays. I have to get onto him but rarely have to go further in discipline, typically i just have to threaten to take things away and he stops bugging over whatever it is. I talk to him and communicate which the older generation didn’t really do, they were very disconnected to there kids imo they had the “spare the rod spoil the child” motto. Which is you physically discipline the child to keep them from getting there way becoming spoiled. Such an outdated way

[@timhall5382]

Maybe the kid was acting like that because she didn't want to get beat up?

[@starlight-tour777]

Yeah, you just said that

[@wegotlives4872]

Yhup a lot of people think you have to beat respect into their children but it’s actually the opposite. If you respect the kids first then they will respect you.

[@lisagrafton2529]

I blame foster care for placing two little girls in the home of two disabled elderly adults!

[@DinFL]

Agreed! 💯

[@tmckenny2994]

That is a huge problem across this country.

[@Fckallraces]

But why would disabled people be even allowed to even partake in foster care placement ? … that should not even be a thing

[@Cincy_Kid]

The government ruins everything it touches

[@starshottai2519]

? ​@@deanfish-jr6xv

[@trin7778]

Hearing her talking about how the girl was trying to run, bucking, rolling around trying to get away from these 3 grown adults trynna hold her down and beat her and how it was “disrespectful” is just so out of touch with reality. really says something about people who think it’s okay to put there hands on kids at all it’s like people disregard how scary of a position it is for someone triple your size to be actively trying to attack you. As someone who’s had a childhood with adults like this it’s 1000% a weird power trip that some people get in places of authority and I believe for them it’s somewhat of a addiction to disciplining those who can’t fight back

[@briarelyse5136]

I wonder if they even spoke to the foster parents before letting them take care of children? It seems like they think this behaviour is normal. They are messed up people that should never had children in their care!

[@a.azazagoth5413]

This family is just cruel to that young girl. Who would place her with an old couple? One with dementia and the other with physical impairments. They speak about beating her like it’s a wonderful pastime for the whole family.

[@Old_boring_gal74]

She said she went for the butt not the legs, bc she enjoyed the butt!😮

[@superflygirl]

Children’s Services has never actually been about the welfare of children.

[@bingsballyhoo711]

When you live a lifestyle where cruelty is considered normal, bad things happen! What a tragedy.

[@TQFMTradingStrategies]

Im calling this lady out, she’s 320 pounds. she is entirely dependent on the kindness of the people around her and her community. she wouldn’t have been able to survive in that state on her own.

[@mastanickel]

Guys you don’t understand, the crazy out-of-control child was running away from getting beat and then when she was being suffocated we calmly explained to her how she could, in fact, breathe. Then she up n died on us, probably on purpose.

[@kieronparr3403]

Well they can't go to jail because of a child.

[@christinablair1978]

Right? The "logic..." 🤔

[@th.burggraf7814]

"Then she up n died on us.., probably on purpose." Yea.., children can be really cruel sometimes... 😖

[@brendafayepatten3312]

Imagine what would have happened if this child's name was George Floyd.

[@StretchEmOut]

​@@brendafayepatten3312 imagine if it was Colt Gray

[@martymcfly9582]

Imagine how much terror and fear the little girl felt while begging for her life underneath 300lbs +

[@qckndrty1]

320 lb of stank

[@martymcfly9582]

@@qckndrty1 funky ass

[@avishopkins8295]

😮THE SMELL ALONE WAS ENOUGH TO YOU KNOW WHAT😮

[@dasun13]

Her sister watched her only friend and real family die

[@Cryptidmama424]

“We tried to beat her and she had the audacity to fight us”

[@jaynenancekivell3162]

They expected her to lie down & stay down while she was beaten with belt 😱😱& she was bucking !!!!

[@kersie2000]

This child was chased around like a wounded animal. Disgraceful.

[@ZovaBe]

Yeah if I'm innocent I'm not going to spend the 911 call telling my side of the story AS THERES A CHILD NOT BREATHING NEXT TO ME.

[@lolamonroe90]

then she said this child is either faking or not breathing .. like really

[@MarySmith-ym2ib]

All three adults should have gotten life in prison for abuse.

[@KhalidMahmood-wm1qz]

While living on lettuce only

[@starlitestarbright514]

The girl couldn't breathe....that is why she was " bucking"! My God.

[@katybug6572]

Omg right?!

[@sorryifoldcomment8596]

Yeah, at a certain point it's not even a conscious decision...adrenaline was coursing through her as her body automatically did everything in its power to breathe out the carbon dioxide building up. 😔

[@SamiDForever]

James smith received 10 years for his role in the murder. Grace smith had mental and physical limitations that kept her from standing trial but as soon as she’s well she will be charged as well.

[@robinette64]

She ended up getting 20 years from what I found

[@ThemanbunYT]

The amount of anger i have is unbelievable right now

[@pofuno]

I mean, with the name of your account, I can imagine it's pretty hilarious when you get angry 😂😂😂

[@michelleservantofjesus2009]

Three grown adults tortured and suffocated that poor baby

[@Qsefthuko4]

welcome to American child care solution

[@Yuca_]

Poor baby? A runaway child, that acts like she’s grown and threatened family with a knife? The same child that has been turned over to the state by multiple family members? Let’s not act like every child is an innocent, caring, loving blessing incapable of violence. There are many videos featuring killer kids. They were obviously and very clearly trying to do right by here but grew desperate and didn’t have the help or support. It’s clear that all these family members are of age and or disabled, and I’ll equipped to deal with a problem child. The state and CPS failed this child by placing them in this household instead of placing them somewhere where they could provide help for their clear their behavior and mental health problems.

[@elementalbori]

​@@Yuca_Runaway, acting up or not, she DID NOT DESERVE to die the way she did. The lack of air and crushing force likely caused a lot of pain for this poor child. Take your lack of empathy elsewhere. SHE. WAS. A. CHILD.

[@ContactsNfilters]

​@@elementalbori"The One Child" by Torey Hayden should be required reading in all schools. The little girl was only 6 years old and burned a two year old badly. She was headed towards an institutionalized life when Torey intervened and helped change that trajectory. By the previous commenter's logic she deserved death by suffocation.

[@calvinsimpson1301]

​@@Yuca_ are you....serious? That's still a child. A child isn't to blame for their terrible environment and lack of support leading to these issues. If you truly think literal murder is an even remotely reasonable response, you're a moron

[@dougjohnson8610]

"Im not going to jail behind no children" oh yes you is

[@theistephanie]

😊

[@arithompson8962]

Straight to prison to be smothered by 620 pound Big Betsy.😅😅😅

[@PatriciaRoberts-lp5wj]

The foster system failed another innocent child. RIP baby girl.

[@samariathornton9110]

Don’t blame the foster care system, blame these unfit parents having kids they are unable to take care of and blame the murderers. There are too few homes in the foster care system and the system is overloaded and overwhelmed.

[@sheilarogge2461]

@@samariathornton9110 Nope, Im blaming the foster care system AS WELL as these evil monsters. They ALL failed these babies, AGAIN. So idc what you do but I am putting blame where blame deserves to be. I think that OP would prob agree as well.

[@115dancingqueen]

​@samariathornton9110 yes the Foster system needs to take some blame. Why are disabled people fostering?? To get free care!!

[@samariathornton9110]

@@115dancingqueen no, it’s because they don’t have the space for all these kids

[@BFku36]

​@@115dancingqueenFood stamps and other bs. That greasy shit isn't limited to one community either. People actually take advantage of foster kids and abuse them along the way while exploiting them because they can be a $ cow. Lets also not ignore the fact that these "Hhhwhooopins" seem to definitely be a cultural problem in the US and it's definitely not working as statistics show.

[@Latayla]

By the way she’s talking, you know that she’s the family bully. You got to be deranged to have a preferred way to whoop someone. That tells you that it’s done often. Who tf uses ammonia to check for consciousness? They didn’t give you respect. They were scared of you! Fear and respect aren’t the same

[@jaynenancekivell3162]

She got hit with belt 10 times , then ruler 6-7 times & then sat on 😱Anyone surprised she tried to get away !!!!

[@ambrr_lily]

Well first aid kits used to have ammonia capsule things that you break open and put under a person's nose so they regain consciousness. They were called smelling salts.

[@supreemcourt9181]

“She was buckin, tryna get away” with 300lbs+ crushing her

[@d.j.m3309]

The child didn't respect you. She feared you! Maybe she knew you were a murderer! So sad, that child didn't stand a chance with yall!

[@brianbadonde9251]

So the little girl knew somebody was a murderer before they murdered? What 🤨

[@Ternal_Journey]

@@brianbadonde9251children have to be very good readers of character because of how vulnerable they are. She 100% knew this lady had it in her to murder.

[@uncleb7821]

@@brianbadonde9251 Stay out the women’s bathroom, u sick freak

[@carmenquintana5151]

​@@brianbadonde9251maybe she didn't think that woman was a 'murderer' but she for sure knew that woman would definitely hurt her if she 'acted up' in any way

[@constancemusa4619]

It's so sad that children are placed in an environment where they are not safe at all and nobody seems to care. Some of these foster homes are hell holes and nothing more 😢😢. It's high time the authorities protected these unfortunate vhildren😢😢

[@loki3loki969]

Wow...... she's being interrogated for the murder of a child and she says " i told her, i cant be over here cuz i go to jail cuz these kids out control." Brilliant just Brilliant.

[@clark2491]

Yeah. The iq is deep with this one.

[@krisdiane]

And she said it multiple times. Wtf, lady? 😂😂😂😂

[@aufgewacht3547]

Thats her defence strategy

[@ikonic8983]

@@aufgewacht3547can also prove premeditation and she should’ve known wat could happen

[@cynthiaconnors183]

She pretty ignan

[@DanieAwesome]

Adults that can't control their emotions don't belong around kids. She reminds me of my mom and she lost out on meeting my future kids because of being a child abuser.

[@BongiMahlangu-df7ul]

Sorry for the abuse u indured😥

[@Wafflegazm]

She even admitted when she comes around the kids it’s a different atmosphere. Poor kids

[@Luvlymarshmellow666]

all these people saying no to abortion, crossed with free birth control hard to get, mixed with no one wanting to foster adopt children….and this is what America gets. Then everyone says “how dare they give these awful people control over kids”.

[@DanieAwesome]

@@Luvlymarshmellow666 Finally someone that makes sense

[@loriegosnell9355]

@@DanieAwesome BS! Stop fkng if you don’t want children! Killing human babies in utero isn’t NO ANSWER! People better start taking responsibility for reactions to their actions.

[@palp8623]

So they beat the crap out of the poor kid with a belt and a ruler and dont understand why she was trying to get away? Disgusting. I dont care what your parents did to you. You dont beat a child.

[@ltlbear05]

I don’t ever want to hear the word “bucking” again. OMFG.

[@shannon.fields]

How is hitting a 9 yr old little girl multiple times with a belt, ruler and pipe discipline??!! THAT IS CHILD ABUSE!! Then after being beat by 3 adults, the 320 lb woman sits on her too??? The foster parents should be held accountable for her death too. What a sad life this poor little girl had to live everyday. RIP 😪💔

[@rialequay1787]

Definitely child abuse and it is sad that so many children have went through beatings and are now adults and laugh about it and do it to their children. I was spanked with a belt and it really messes your mental up. I made a promise I would never do that to my child. This is a tragic story

[@rubylee3277]

​@@rialequay1787same!!!!

[@rubylee3277]

Right!!! Hitting is abuse regardless! It blows my mind ppl would never hit an animal, ur elderlys, it's assault under the law, but a kid..I'll be at the fk out of to prove a point...gtfoh.. Really bothers me way ppl.think

[@sexywhite7198]

It happens.... often times it never gets reported; only endured and gotten past.

[@iamburl2667]

My mom raised me with beatings for no reasons

[@bradjenkins2861]

They had me in the first 20 seconds "we have a 10yr old who is either faking or not breathing" This is after the caller who is 320lbs sat on the kid. Might have left out that cause and effect there.

[@zvsmith2008]

She wouldn’t get up , after I got off of her .. That’s a special kind of distorting the facts .. That’s years of changing the facts to meet your needs ..She’ll have enough free time to realize you can’t do things like that .. ijs

[@DK-yh4xt]

Sum braats be lying tho. It a cucheral ting. white peoples don understnd

[@Ric_Irv]

She didn’t even know the child’s real age and that says a lot

[@Amber_the_Awesome]

She admitted the poor child was saying “I can’t breathe” and she continued sitting on her! Awful

[@mags_9532]

My brother used to sit on me while I panicked. He stood on top of me when I was under water. Your breathing isn't important to these types of people.

[@rubylee3277]

​@@mags_9532omg!!! My heart goes out to u..and this lil child

[@crazylady4462]

Right. She is telling her I can't breathe.

[@cindyeastbourn7642]

Her face was pressed into plastic on the chair…..

[@cindyeastbourn7642]

Her face was pressed into plastic on the chair

[@julesMS]

How ignorant to call 911 and say you don't know if she is just playing or really can't breathe????????

[@johnmangos1512]

Cops say that all the time.

[@Scott-xb7ov]

People may sometimes feign unconsciousness by pretending they're not awake, when they really are, but how do you “fake” not breathing?

[@Latayla]

How unreasonable for a child to “cut up” and wanting to run away from abuse😒 Sure, someone tying to defend themselves is defiant. Wonder why they were “terrible” at home

[@blackdog4553]

Im sick of all the lies about that baby so called "buckin" and goin on. That was a child not a damn wild bronco

[@stevibee]

I mean, to be fair, that's a very cultural word to describe what we call "squirming". It's horrific and barbaric, but that's all she meant. It's a VERY common descriptor in Chicago and Detroit

[@ginadow3375]

i think some of that is the idea that trying to escape punishment is defiance, not a normal reaction to pain.

[@montagne5825]

@@stevibee black

[@justthatgirl-ct4jo]

Some kids can be awful. It doesn't make this okay, but those kids could very well have been out of control considering the lifestyle they had grown up in

[@gailknight3128]

Poor child was acting up because she was terrified as she knew she was going to be beaten! RIP Dericka.

[@glowindark64]

Mhmmm. Bands a be making her dance an sheeet

[@glowindark64]

I rebuke satan in all his forms

[@phillip2763]

Hey now she was just buckin because she was being CORRECTED. Yeah that poor poor kid.

[@jennatrusty522]

So the uncle blocks this child from running away because she just had this s*** kicked out of her and that's when this biggie Miss Piggy grab the back of her shirt and swung her into the chair and then flopped and plopped right under her that's what happened when I heard her say that she told this kid to get on her knees that is the only time in this interrogation so far that I have heard any genuine emotion that's the only genuine emotion that came out of her mouth in this interrogation are the rest of all the rest of this is in act the phoniness the soft talking it is all an act and the downplay let me down play my behavior let me let me shift focus on to this kid let me make it look like I was the hero in the story 29:09 when James blocked her listen to how she says the hesitation anniversary that's when she grabbed this kid's shirt through her against the chair and flopped on top of her I know that's what happened that's why she's suddenly kind of like pausing and notice how she pauses when she talks about the child she's trying to gauge a reaction out of the woman that says okay then that makes sense you killed her okay now I get it now it all makes sense listen to the way she talks the Cadence in her voice the tonality the volume of our voice everything she does every pause everything that all for the effect of getting a reaction out of this woman the interrogator wants to see if this is where this is going well is this going to believe me that I had every reason to kill this kid get down on your knees that's the moment I heard her say that I was like whoa are you serious because the rest of the time she's been completely phony this is the person that she puts out on on the child services when they come I know what you're doing I can see right through you

[@Wafflegazm]

@@glowindark64 yo wtf?

[@elementalbori]

God, being unable to fill your lungs is absolutely terrifying, that poor baby! Hope this awful woman never gets another good night's sleep again. Hope she's haunted for the rest of her miserable life. A few cousins sat on me when we were all kids, I was 4 they were anywhere from 6-13. The feeling of not being able to breathe has stuck with me till this day. I'm 31. Again I say, that poor, poor baby. I hope she's resting easy now.

[@iieatyoureyes]

I was at an after prom party and I didn’t really know anyone there so I was just kind of keeping to myself sitting on the floor and then I was trapped under this group of people that were wrestling/joke fighting. I couldn’t be heard, I couldn’t breathe. It was only a few seconds but it felt much longer. I think about it every day, I never told anyone before I don’t think.

[@stormij]

Absolutely a horrible feeling. I had an asthma attack in middle school that was so bad my lips turned blue. Felt like an elephant was on my chest.

[@TinyStar-oz3bo]

Yeah, it's the worst. A relative once held me down and tickled me until I couldn't breathe when I was little. Luckily an adult noticed me gasping

[@jennycoyle8204]

I had a visceral memory of cousins piling on top of me and not being able to breathe for probably 30 seconds but it felt like a lifetime. They were playing we all were, but I never ever forgot that moment of fear. This woman had that poor child face forward on a seat for over 6 minutes. This is nightmare fuel 😱 god bless that poor child 😢

[@colleenpiechowski8511]

That poor little kid was trying to lock her out so she couldn't come beat her. These people had torture devices they used regularly. How hard do you hit someone to break a ruler with a pipe behind it? She was trying to escape her fate. She beat her like she was a slave overseer. RIP poor child of God. If they thought this was how you love children, I wonder about their childhood.

[@brittles1984]

What pisses me off the most about listening to this is, If the Girl was so "respectful" to Posey when she was in her presence, why did she have to continue to physically discipline her instead of just talking to her. It's not necessary to put your hands on a child if they are not physically causing a disturbance. They enjoyed beating that poor child regardless of her attitude as most children have at that age. 😡 "They loved me and I loved them" is such garbage and a revolting statement to say when you have to abuse a child to get them to listen or behave. 🤢

[@Spicyramenmama]

Yeah whenever theres a long story on the 911 call thats always a red flag to me. Trying to proclaim innocense before an investigation even starts.

[@erwynbalbuena9900]

Good point 👍🏾

[@davidjordan697]

When the dispatcher heard “or faking”, that’s the second she knew this is a send the FD and police call.

[@pennyp7382]

She was absolutely writing a narrative of bs.

[@CSinger-db8tj]

Takoata Collins cases. Your so right.😮

[@pennyp7382]

Trying desperately to sound like an exhausted caring aunt. 😮 She terrorized those children. Everyone failed them.

[@NooniePop]

Yes smh

[@wape1]

No real tears even though she just killed a child she says she loved-absolute stone-cold sociopath.

[@jordanbrettabbott]

Beating children with pipes, rulers, and belts isn't "discipline." It's physical assault and battery on a child. I'm so glad my parents loved me growing up and never assaulted me like other children I knew.

[@Dan-cm9ow]

Ever noticed the type of people who go hard on "you must respect your elders" are usually the least respectable people you've ever met?

[@leenacabe6374]

How come these people didn't realize that they were dealing with a human child not trying to break a horse?

[@Andreamom001]

“Breaking” a horse isn’t even necessary. It’s an outdated way of doing things. Positive interactions and a trusting relationship work so much better. I’ve seen people who do this. All their horses get along (even stallions), people can walk behind them, all around them, do anything with them. They cooperate and want attention and do whatever they are asked. The horses want to be with the people, want to be included. And the people respect the horses and pay attention to when they need a break or aren’t up to training/being ridden.

[@supertrucker99]

Horses have feelings....😮

[@pennyp7382]

JUST A TERM DURP. ​@@Andreamom001

[@ZZ_The_Boxing_Cat]

​@@supertrucker99 True. I got a pony when I was in second grade. Animals sense feels.

[@leenacabe6374]

@@supertrucker99 never said they didn't. Just saying you CAN'T break a child, or any size human like they are a horse.

[@lesleycarney8868]

I can't believe one adult would ring another adult ( a 20 min drive away ) to come and hold a child down so they could beat her. What were they doing for the half hour waiting? all a bit crazy.

[@Mermare]

I think they enjoyed getting together to torture the poor girl.

[@enricopallazzo3244]

Oh yeah they’re very violent.

[@figz6]

right??? i really hope that little girl’s sister is no longer in that household. Absolutely heartbreaking

[@aeshaalberts7560]

Crazy

[@andiward7068]

Yelling, threatening, throwing things at, berating, chasing and terrifying the kid for 30m is just standard ops for abusers, sadly.

[@HalfBackCrack]

If "I was hit as a kid and I turned out just fine." was a person.

[@Dinosaurchickin]

What exactly are you trying to say by that?

[@poempadgett4664]

@@Dinosaurchickin Probably that, oftentimes, the abused later become the abusers, themselves.

[@SpitFactsAndThenDontReply]

​@@poempadgett4664no this person is against spanking. Obviously. That's the point of the comment. You just went way left field and came to a very odd conclusion.

[@loriegosnell9355]

Yeah I used to say that. Got hit in the face, switched mercilessly till I was candy cane striped. Thought I was fine grown up… but I was an alcoholic for decades.

[@poempadgett4664]

@@SpitFactsAndThenDontReply You must have missed that I said “oftentimes,” and, regardless, that’s common knowledge. SpittyF.

[@chrisc395]

“See when I come, it’s a whole ‘nother atmosphere with the kids.” Uh- no ma’am. When you show up, it’s a whole ‘nother universe. Way to go Kool-Aid.

[@cathypoags9054]

The phrase “cutting up” is deplorable.

[@cynthiaconnors183]

Sound stupid actually

[@jackiemk32]

I've always known it as going hard on the dance floor.

[@Katfishforrent]

PEOPLE! PLEASE READ THIS! IT IS SO VERY IMPORTANT TO BRING AWARENESS TO THIS ISSUE. First, please bear with me as i try to explain. My English is not the best. Please do not listen to, or continue to spread this ridiculous comment of "if you can talk, you can breathe." This is not true, and even if it was. It is far too risky to a persons life, to believe. If someone says they cant breathe. You believe them, and help until proven otherwise, by an actual doctor. There are MANY reasons for a person to feel like they are not getting oxygen, while they are still able to speak. All can be life threatening and should not be left to chance or your hunch. This whole "if you can talk, you can breathe" crap came from first aid training for CHOKING. Meaning, whatever is blocking their airway is still allowing air to pass thru. This is not something to use when it comes to any kind of compression of a persons diaphragm. Even if they can speak, or you feel/see them breathing. It doesnt mean they are ok. If they cannot fully expand their diaphragm, they are unable to get the full amount of oxygen yhey need, while also creating carbon to build up in their system. Ultimately killing them if you do not release wnd get rhem help. When i was in school for nursing, my instructor was very adamant about getting this dangerous belief erased from all our heads. Please everyone, make it something you bring up with friends and family. Lets get this dangerous phrase and mindset erased before many more suffer unnecessarily.

[@sheilarogge2461]

Finally someone that uses a brain. Thank you. I HATE that saying and I have had SO MANY people fight me in the comments when I have said that. I see it on a TON of police vids. They always say " If you are talking...You are breathing" and it drives me insane.

[@barbaramatthews4735]

People without medical training fail to understand that a partially obstructed airway is life-threatening. They see it as all or nothing. That is a dangerous way of thinking. I worked in health care for 18 years. I trained in the Navy as a Corpsman. Then I worked in civilian health care. I have experience in different fields as one type of tech or another. The number one thing to be cognizant about is airway. Breathing is part of airway. If it is restricted, someone will stop breathing. I hope someone sees this thread and thinks about it.

[@RebekkaRN1962]

I enjoyed your post but, yes there is a but to the origin of the "I can't breathe" statement of misuse.....the saying came about w/GF & is so utterly misused by criminals that want to avoid going to jail. That's the origin of the saying ICB and since GF it is the #1 complaint criminals use immediately. 99.9% of criminals being arrested have absolutely nothing wrong & are told "if you're screaming, you're breathing" bc it's true! LEO's always have a medical evaluation done for these complaints & 99.9% of the time the criminal is alright.

[@really5448]

@@RebekkaRN1962exactly. Because of this misuse of this statement you tend to dismiss the complaint. For this situation it’s tragic and 100% abuse.

[@emilycarter2492]

@@RebekkaRN1962exactly! The whole country saw the GF debacle and criminals don’t care that crying wolf is damaging for others. They don’t care, they will lie just to get away with inappropriate behavior. Every single criminal that resists arrest and is in a scuffle with police claims they can’t breathe. 99.9% of them are lying in order to feel power and control in the situation. Even with GF, they pulled his arrests prior to his death and he always claimed that he couldn’t breathe when he resisted arrest. It’s a very common tactic for repeat offenders who resist arrest. Every resisting arrest bodycam has the perp claiming to be unable to breathe, even when the police are nowhere near them. It’s a control tactic and until we stop allowing criminals to use it to avoid arrest procedure, it will continue to be misused.

[@beyondthedetails]

This lady said they whooped her with the belt TEN times??? TF? That’s not a whooping that’s abuse.

[@ZestyFiestaSupreme]

What's the difference between once or ten times?

[@ashs1491]

That means they whipped her ALL the time smh

[@gemuzio]

And the ruler broke. Imagine how hard she had to hit her to break a ruler. A ruler with a pipe.

[@TaeYvonne]

@@ZestyFiestaSupremebecause once is fine. I'm not against discipline it's very much needed with how kids r these days. but by this comment I can tell you probably are against it. but ONCE is fine and LEGAL. Yes 10x is very much overdoing it.

[@sharongrigg5336]

​@@TaeYvonnewhere I'm from beating a child once with a belt is illegal thankfully.. it's called child abuse pure n simple. If I didn't agree with your actions or behaviour n come at you with a belt I'd be done for assault, just because you're an adult why does doing it to a child make it right? Make it make sense..

[@MerryWidow420]

I could never have been a cop. Posy wouldn't have left that interview room.

[@heidi.midget9880]

Or made her do the the interview with a 320 pound weight on her chest

[@surpriseimblack]

But you could defund them

[@MerryWidow420]

@@surpriseimblack , don't be silly. Then people like Posy would do whatever they want to whoever they want. To you too. Thought of that? No defunding cops for me, though I would like to see them get a whole lot more money for things like trauma counsellors, etc.

[@laughoutloudtv2104]

Seriously....

[@misstruboyzrc]

She really called the suffocation murder of an innocent child a “freak accident”! No mam you murdered that beautiful little girl!!

[@moonwatche99]

In the late 80's and early 90's, i befriended a neighbor who reminds me exactly of this woman, also named Veronica, aka Ronnie. They even look very much alike. I was a new single mother, fresh out of foster care, and she was my first experience of any kind of parental guidance. I trusted her advice, I believed it to be good because she was otherwise a very motherly mother. Nurturing, helpful, well intentioned. Through her, i grew into her family and friends, and most of the women were similar. They disciplined their children the same way. The thing is, it was a very 'normal' part of their child rearing and none of them saw it as abusive. They knew they could get in trouble for it, but made it seem like the law had it wrong. They all spoke the same way ......be respectful to your elders, do your chores, don't argue back, don't act a fool in public, or at home, mind your manners, say yes ma'am no ma'am and yes sir no sir, don't act too grown, you'll get your ass whooped as long as I'm alive if you act up, straighten your face, accept your punishment, a few licks with a belt/paddle/jump rope/stick/shoe/extension cord/hanger won't kill you', and so on. I emulated some things as I raised my own children. I spanked (whooped) with a belt, I demanded obedience, I cooked great meals and hugged them a lot, I expected perfection in certain ways (grades, behavior, moods, etc), I punished, and now......as adults, we are very broken and have strained dynamics, trauma, regrets, blame, estrangement.....it caused a lot of issues to live that way. I am 56 now, and i can say that I am so astounded that humans use hitting as a punishment and lesson. It's bizarre. I now know there are so many other ways to teach that aren't cruel forms of punishment. Hitting, preaching, demanding, being so authorative is not at all helpful. Some will say 'well i got my ass whooped and I turned out just fine!', but thats generally not the case. I wish I had known better than I did then, I would not have been so harsh.

[@dodobirdtime]

At least now you can work on building up your relationships with your kids, just be sure to not deny them of their recalling of old memories, life is hard and a lot of times when you think you're doing the right thing, you're not

[@artphotognh]

Ah yes - the child wouldn't lay immobile as she was tortured for hours on end, so obviously the elephant seal had to kill her.

[@cynthiaconnors183]

Don't insult elephant seals

[@qckndrty1]

Can you imagine the stank coming off a 320 lb, old wildebeest?

[@Andreamom001]

Who trained these foster parents? Who approved them? NO physical punishment is allowed for children in foster care. This poor child was abused and terrified, not misbehaving. And they killed her. 😢

[@surpriseimblack]

I thought you said Foster's care is awesome

[@campbell1446]

What they did wasn't punishment. It was abuse.

[@andiward7068]

They weren't official foster parents, they were blood relations given custody. Unfortunately, biological relations too often don't get as much scruitiny as needed for child safety. CPS dropped the ball and given lack of resources it's going to keep happening. I once called CPS on my neighbors for leaving their 5yo alone in charge of the 18 mo baby all day, on a regular basis. He would get verbally and physically abused for not caring for the baby properly. The case worker tells me, "We're not going to remove them because we have nowhere safe to place them. It's better they stay than get abused by strangers." Keeping them with family is preferred, as if blood keeps harm at bay. It was over 30 years ago and still haunts me.

[@travelintheresa7884]

Wait.. so 2 ppl held her down so foster mom could “whoop” her 10x with a belt, then cousin decides that’s not enough and gonna “whoop” her on the butt with a ruler and pipe? Am I understanding correctly?

[@PeriwinkleSunrise]

Don't call the foster person "mom".

[@heidi.midget9880]

That's what I heard

[@Luvlymarshmellow666]

all these people saying no to abortion, crossed with free birth control hard to get, mixed with no one wanting to foster adopt children….and this is what America gets. Then everyone says “how dare they give these awful people control over kids”.

[@gemuzio]

She's telling the interrogator about beating this child as though it's acceptable discipline. Of course the interrogator won't see anything wrong with what we did. The child was disrepectful. Oh. My. God.

[@Lau_rynn]

​@marshmellow1912 shut up abortion is still killing babies so it's not even a better solution.

[@jasonmoore8057]

How can she set there and describe how she took that babies life and not shed a tear

[@SoupSpot]

No wonder (if) the nine year old used a knife, she was scared of these monsters.

[@jenniferwebb4628]

Those kids were scared of her no respect… 100% fear

[@madii319]

Whoa! This brought back a memory that was suppressed…But I remember someone of authority in my family sitting on me for whatever reason but they thought that I was playing when I said that I couldn’t breathe so I immediately stopped talking to show them that I was serious and they got up as soon as they noticed but that was scary asf 😰…..Now why would 300lb person think it’s ok to sit on a child like that and for that long….🤦🏾‍♀️

[@erwynbalbuena9900]

She took the term "baby sitting" literally 😂

[@h0rriphic]

@@erwynbalbuena9900 it’s actually a really traumatizing experience…being crushed and suffocated to death is a terrifying way to go.. I am so sorry you were made to endure such a terrible thing OP. The adults meant to protect you really let you down. I’m so sorry. You deserve so much better.

[@pennyp7382]

​@@erwynbalbuena9900NOT funny.

[@sithfett]

i remember the feeling of pure terror when i realised i couldnt move speak or breathe. that poor little girl

[@pennyp7382]

@@sithfett I'm sorry you had that experience. I'm so sorry. It's terrifying.

[@rosleengardner9325]

The way Posey keeps saying " they dont act up with me " like shes this well respected person, i bet they were all screaming at her what a nightmare.

[@jessicalawton1]

It's very obvious she was acting out because she was being abused if she even was acting out. I can't believe how many "whoopings" she's talked about.

[@just_tee_]

NB. Top notch production as usual Stranger Stories 👏🏻

[@SherioCheers]

I was almost killed by being crushed by a couple adult men at an after church thing once. Not being able to fill my lungs at all is something I'll never forget.

[@ThePadrenosferatu]

I had the same, With my older brother. He sat on me wrapped in blankets and I died, or better feel like it, so maybe I passed out as I remember darkness

[@ThePadrenosferatu]

It’s very scary and I am sorry that happened to you and this child. Still cannot believe how 3 adults not see this is a torture to small child that just like every animal want to not be beaten and not to die

[@Kōkako-i1t]

@ThePadrenosferatu That a muzzle on your face or you just have huge lips. 🤣

[@pennyp7382]

​@@Kōkako-i1tYou're so jealous you aren't American. Sad for you.

[@DarenMiller-qj7bu]

I've been suffocated many times in wrestling and jiu-jitsu. There's really nothing to compare it to because all other pain has a different feel. It's some kind of weird, animalistic response. Fight or flight is a bitch..

[@charcoaldreams5203]

"They know I would never hurt them." What? You did! Badly! And multiple times! These people are horrible.

[@JoeBlow-zr2ru]

Poor little girl. No wonder she acted out ... having to live with such horrific monsters. Soooo sad.

[@shaesmada]

The child telling her she can't breathe but yet you think she's faking and you got your big ass on her? Come on now. Make it make sense boo.

[@heatheral-hammadi3046]

This lady said she didn’t put her full weight on the little girl. She said she squatted on her. There is no way this large woman has the thigh strength to hold herself up. She plopped her full weight on her.

[@Abaybay940]

Them Meagan knees been gone..hell I’m nowhere near 300 lbs and I can’t even squat that long 😅

[@christomasjames6620]

so this person thinks its ok to beat and sit on a child and even when she said she couldn't breath she didn't care. she needs to be sent away for LIFE this is abuse of a child no wonder she acts out when she's probably scared.

[@genericamerican7574]

She was “trying to help her”. Don’t ask me why this is help, I haven’t a clue how it would help.

[@honeybee1852]

Can’t believe she was smacking her while sitting on top of her smothering her to de&th!! This is so horrific

[@peachy2.0]

"They would give me a respect" .....that's not respect it's FEAR!

[@heighton7206]

The real question is WHY WERE THESE KIDS EVEN PLACED WITH THESE TWO PEOPLE TO BEGIN WITH??!!??!!??!!!!???

[@ChristopherGreen-p5q]

This make me sick my stomach…that poor little child didn’t deserve that!!! Very heartbreaking..

[@Luvlymarshmellow666]

Enough to donate to an adoption agency? Enough to volunteer at an adoption agency? Enough to foster a child? Enough to adopt?

[@Wuznoturbiznis]

My father would sit on us when we didn’t understand school work; learning to tell time on a Roman numeral clock and probably needed glasses was hell. Convinced I wasn’t understanding on purpose. Still have a deep fear of being smothered, he’d sit on our heads and chests. Just evil, this child didn’t deserve what was done to her

[@texasrefugee7888]

I'm sorry your dad did that to you.That must have been horrible😢

[@annasmith8352]

That is horrible. I am so sorry that happened to you.

[@surpriseimblack]

Corporal Punishment. It's crazy how many people's homes did not grow up with corporal punishment...

[@alhana8293]

"I couldn't pick her up she's too heavy" WOW! She didn't think she's too heavy to sit on that poor child!

[@ellenjohnson5235]

That doesn’t make sense but yeah she’s disgusting.

[@latoyaf5603]

Exactly

[@TheRockMorton]

"beating the butt" of a child is not discipline. It is abuse. There are many ways to discipline children without hitting them.

[@Healedhearts1212]

This made me angry!!! I can’t believe she would sit her big back a** on a child😢 That baby was scared. Fly high baby girl🕊️💕💫

[@NatureSouldierSC]

Who sits on anyone for punishment? Really? I don't hear this often so I hope she never gets out of prison ever. RIP to the poor girl who's foster mother sat on her and didn't believe she was dead.

[@davealaya]

My 5th grade math teacher almost killed me in front of the entire class by sitting on me. I know it sounds really funny but it was scary as hell. Her name was Mrs. Conrad and she called the punishment of being sat on "The Conrad Crunch".

[@SYNTAAX84]

There’s no fuckin way is that true?!! 😂😂😂😭😭😭

[@SYNTAAX84]

The Conrad crunch 😭

[@marshiemellow]

Lmfao what?!!

[@Jayson-ut8qwfukyoutubesoftasss]

@@SYNTAAX84 I believe it public schools are fucking wild. You wouldn’t believe have the shit ass seen at seven fucking o’clock in the morning on a school day. I always fucked up and damn it was still shit. I seen that surprise me.

[@cleoh666]

Seriously?! I'm so sorry 😞 I had no idea this is something adults did to children 😔

[@NsyShwl]

It's scary how she had like that grandmother voice while describing the horror she did to the innocent 😅😅

[@eddys2399]

Right! Her voice is so soothing but what she did was horrible.

[@creshonewhite9827]

I said that twice she sound so sweet

[@kevinakakp9120]

So many of these awful crimes take place every single second a day…

[@ritishify]

Yeah this world is a mess if you think there's anything actually under control... it's as wild as it was thousands of years ago.

[@shawnalee9775]

Why would a foster home place children with 2 elderly and disabled adults??? It's their fault, in my opinion

[@willystiles1665]

Omg that poor kid getting compressed by a wilder beast 🤦‍♂️ the agony she must have felt RIP LIL GIRL NOBODY DESERVES WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU 🙏

[@whosaidthat9265]

Did you mean Wildebeest?

[@jackyboyslim1379]

"Compressed by a wilder beast" one of the funniest things I've ever read.

[@willystiles1665]

@@whosaidthat9265 idk apparently u knew what I meant 🤷‍♂️

[@Felicity-cw5bq]

@@whosaidthat9265no it was spelled correctly and used correctly yours is incorrect

[@laurenharris9832]

Wilder beast 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 and you know damn well she completely sat on that child

[@MizzChocola8]

Poor baby! U sat on her because she didn’t want to get beat and wouldn’t stay still? Omggg just sick!! 😢

[@RosalynnAnne]

I’ll never understand how adults get mad when kids don’t want to get a whooping and try to avoid it.

[@Teachingtea]

Exactly?! WTH?

[@stevekelsey411]

They just need to learn to say "stop resisting" and they can become cops and get away with it.

[@jay-el-bee]

People who say they were beat as a child and then go on to use that as justification for beating children themselves need some serious therapy.

[@steph1275]

Can you imagine being held down beaten with a belt, a ruler with a pipe and then sat on by a huge woman you’re scared of. Poor baby RIP Angel

[@Lucidplays34]

Wow who knew physical violence would escalate the situation