Dumb Decisions: The WORST Clock Management Ever (Rams @ Bears | 1985 NFC Championship)

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In the 1985 NFC Championship between the Chicago Bears and the Los Angeles Rams, at the end of the first half, head coach John Robinson put on what has to be the most inept display of clock management ever. This is the story and breakdown of the worst clock management ever
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@stephengrinkley9889
@stephengrinkley9889 3 жыл бұрын
This sequence looks like when you play your 5 year old nephew in Madden..and he doesn't know anything yet about the 2-minute drill or the fact that he's not getting the ball back at this spot when the quarter ends..he's just happy to have the opportunity to score. That's what this reminds me of.
@uy7munir
@uy7munir 2 жыл бұрын
How low can an IQ go? That's my question
@SECRETARIATguy224
@SECRETARIATguy224 3 жыл бұрын
This doesn't change how laughably inept the Rams were in this situation, but in the interest of historical accuracy it's worth noting that at that time, the rule was that a timeout could only officially be called for by one of the 22 players that was in the game, or obviously by one of the officials, so in order for a head coach to call a timeout, he would have to signal to a player that he wanted one, and then the player would officially tell the referree he wanted a timeout. Madden wrote a book in the mid-80s called One Knee Equals Two Feet in which he wrote about this. One if his absolute rules was that nobody on his team ever was allowed to call a timeout but him, but by that he meant that he had designated players on each unit whose job was to look at him in timeout situations, and only when he gave them the signal were the players to actually tell the referree they wanted a timeout. The rule was changed sometime in the 2000s, but I can't remember exactly when.
@waynearnold2242
@waynearnold2242 3 жыл бұрын
You can literally hear Summerall and Madden turn and look at each other thinking "what the hell are they doing" as the play goes on
@saveferris3030
@saveferris3030 3 жыл бұрын
Bears ‘85 Kicker was Kevin Butler not Keith.
@brucebaron1212
@brucebaron1212 4 жыл бұрын
That truly was the worst clock management ever. One minor point: only players on the field could call a timeout back then.
@zachbinder2895
@zachbinder2895 3 жыл бұрын
This or Kirk Cousins taking a knee at the end of the first half on the 5 yard line.
@gordons-alive4940
@gordons-alive4940 3 жыл бұрын
That might be the worst decision making during a game I've ever seen, by any coach in any sport. Did he think they were on their own 20, not the Bears?
@MAWA-Vik19
@MAWA-Vik19 3 жыл бұрын
@@zachbinder2895 When did that happen?
@zachbinder2895
@zachbinder2895 3 жыл бұрын
@@MAWA-Vik19 When he was on Washington. It was late in the first half against the Eagles.
@tomschoenke5519
@tomschoenke5519 3 жыл бұрын
In Super Bowl 17, the Redskins with no time outs, and 14 seconds till the half, from the Dolphins 16, completed a nine yard pass to the seven, allowing the clock to run out. The Redskins still won, 27-17, outscoring Miami, 17-0, in the second half.
@msarzo
@msarzo 3 жыл бұрын
I rewatched the first half of this game because this channel has helped rekindle my love of '70s and '80s football. After the first and second down plays, I kept motioning for a timeout when the Rams got the ball late in that sequence. Holy sh*t was that horrible clock management and playcalling! What on Earth was John Robinson thinking there?! Talk about a dumb decision!
@ryanmarshall4332
@ryanmarshall4332 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct. That truly is the worst clock management ever. No one is remotely in a hurry to do anything. They run two running plays and huddle up like normal. That coach has no buaianesa being anywhere near a team regardless of his past accomplishments.
@PaulGaither
@PaulGaither 3 жыл бұрын
"Worst clock management ever" *Andy Reid begins to sweat profusely.*
@jimnfl7134
@jimnfl7134 2 жыл бұрын
Reid did a good job with 13 seconds left vs Bills.
@scottybbadd
@scottybbadd 3 жыл бұрын
Back in those days, coaches couldn't call timeouts
@stevebagley3436
@stevebagley3436 3 жыл бұрын
I came here to say this also. My interpretation would be that Robinson wanted the timeout and the player that signaled timeout wasn’t seen by the referee. It was still horrible clock management, but it explains that small piece.
@jonirving5606
@jonirving5606 3 жыл бұрын
Right, but the coach is responsible to make sure they have a 2-minute offense. Didn't see it.
@gordons-alive4940
@gordons-alive4940 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevebagley3436 Yeah, doesn't really change it that much. Running it twice and then cutting it that close that the ref not seeing the player the instant he calls timeout caused the half to end? And playing for the FG in that situation in the first place.
@stevebagley3436
@stevebagley3436 3 жыл бұрын
@@gordons-alive4940 We all know it was horrible. There’s just an inaccurate part in the video that questions why Robinson didn’t call timeout. Us old timers know the answer is: he couldn’t. It’s still bad clock management and nobody is making excuses for him
@jafopt
@jafopt 3 жыл бұрын
True. But the context everyone misses is Dickerson was the offense. They never had a QB in his era. His holdouts and eventual trade were because they wouldn’t pay him like a QB. Deter Brock was a 35 year old rookie QB From the CFL. The guy who made this video doesn’t know football, or even KEVIN Butler’s name. But nice try.
@shawnmoore1726
@shawnmoore1726 3 жыл бұрын
What the hell was that!!!
@gluserty
@gluserty 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was awful: John Robinson & John Madden are good friends, and Madden had to ask Robinson what he was thinking here. The team acted like they had all day and they didn't. The Bears likely wouldn't have won the game anyway, but at least they easily could've avoided a shutout (Mike Lansford was a solid kicker for the Rams).
@shawmac74
@shawmac74 3 жыл бұрын
How ironic you just found this story about click management and we just saw a wild card game between the cowboys and 49ers.
@trannongoble7722
@trannongoble7722 4 жыл бұрын
Things like this are beyond comprehension. See: June Jones, coach of the Atlanta Falcons (or most ANY coach of the Falcons), including the one that was fired a few days ago. Terrible.
@Seanpatf66
@Seanpatf66 4 жыл бұрын
The Bears, in the game against the Giants, also had fortune bounce their way at the end of the first half, when the Giants missed a chip shot field goal.
@andrewpadaetz5549
@andrewpadaetz5549 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the abysmal Sean Landeta punt that led to the Bears first TD.
@nautgamingnautgaming9949
@nautgamingnautgaming9949 Жыл бұрын
​@@andrewpadaetz5549and 2 years later giants GET a very convenient turnover by Josh Allen Have ball in red zone WITH 2 timeouts Clock ran out because giants chose to be dumb Giants lose 13 to 9 as a result of this failure
@Staceyatkinson4496
@Staceyatkinson4496 4 жыл бұрын
I agree this was bad management by Jr, rams should have called time out and kicked a fg to give themselves a chance to get points, don't coaches say that when in red zone you have to come away with points, great video series, love 80s nfl
@gregcrane4953
@gregcrane4953 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin Butler (not Keith Butler, as was mentioned at the 2:02 mark of the video). Great videos by the way!!
@furnitureconsortium
@furnitureconsortium 3 жыл бұрын
no......they're not great videos Every video, this dude can't even get history right or players' names right. Dude's a hack
@gregcrane4953
@gregcrane4953 3 жыл бұрын
Yes...they are great videos. The footage of these games and background info is great. He does get names wrong, and that's why I stand by to point out the corrections.
@mgb4692
@mgb4692 3 жыл бұрын
Yes because no one's ever got Keith and Kevin mixed up before........... Pretty much everybody here knows that Keith was playing for the Seahawks while Kevin was kicking for the Bears, so the problem is?
@gregcrane4953
@gregcrane4953 3 жыл бұрын
@@mgb4692 the problem is you. Thanks for playing. You're dismissed.
@mgb4692
@mgb4692 3 жыл бұрын
I was actually backing you up but whatever dork
@hrtvfan2870
@hrtvfan2870 3 жыл бұрын
1:04 left and after each of the first two plays the Rams wasted around 20 seconds between plays to call a run and a pass in the middle of the field.
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to reminisce about the ONLY championship season of the Chicago Bears. 😢
@stephengrinkley9889
@stephengrinkley9889 3 жыл бұрын
That's kinda hard to believe given the storied history of your franchise. Wow!
@aj1994fe
@aj1994fe 3 жыл бұрын
Only super bowl win. The bears have 8 nfl championships which was the superbowl before the merger.
@brucemarshall3446
@brucemarshall3446 3 жыл бұрын
And, how many did the Niners have in that same era? 😎
@christophercripps7639
@christophercripps7639 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, you have 16 seconds left, no timeouts, need a TD at the end of a playoff game and you run a QB draw and don't hand the ball to the official. The recent Dallas-SF fiasco was both a dumb decision & poor coaching.
@vincentr.6109
@vincentr.6109 3 жыл бұрын
Can we all take a moment here and just appreciate how awesome of a play caller Pat Summerall was. Tom Brady of play calling.
@chrisjamesr77
@chrisjamesr77 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, definitely one hell of a play-by-announcer! I basically grew up watching football games with Madden and Summerall calling them, lol
@isaacshaver6218
@isaacshaver6218 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite Maddens were the ones that used John& Pat for the commentary.
@john-paul9551
@john-paul9551 2 жыл бұрын
1980's and younger Summerall. Older Summerall just sounded like your bored uncle during the game.
@DavidBaruffi
@DavidBaruffi 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, back then, I think the rule was that only players on the field could officially call timeout; head coaches didn't get the ability to call timeout until, I think the 2000s. That still doesn't dismiss a lot of the drive's issues, they shouldn't have run the ball twice without at least calling one timeout, they should've been in some form of a No Huddle offense, they should've at least considered spiking the ball at some point, and frankly they should've just been aware of how little time they did.
@jamesage24
@jamesage24 3 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely correct. Only players had the ability to call time outs in 1985.
@daleburrer1546
@daleburrer1546 3 жыл бұрын
Remembering this sequence what the Rams should’ve done was after the 1st run by Eric Dickerson you put the ball into Dieter Brock’s hands and have him throw to the end zone and you never know, you can either get a pass interference penalty against the defense or a TD as well as don’t throw an interception. Pat Summerall and John Madden were correct on the commentary of the final 1:04. It should also be pinned on Dieter Brock because as a QB you’re supposed to get everybody to hustle to the line and the Rams should’ve had several plays called for the final 1:04 and if one doesn’t work call timeout. Rams definitely blew that one.
@mgb4692
@mgb4692 3 жыл бұрын
Reading Football Outsiders' 1984 season in review piece makes this all 'Uh, yeah I see' The previous year Eric Dickerson, in a game he rushed for 208 yards during his 2105-yard season, nearly ran for a first down on third and 35 in a game in St. Louis, bringing up fourth and one at midfield. Robinson punted. The Rams won 16-13, no thanks to Robinson or Jeff Kemp, thus leading to the one year Dieter Brock experiment, which actually might have yielded less than similar results. Indeed, if ED had a reliable QB he might have stayed in LA through his prime
@grinningchicken
@grinningchicken 3 жыл бұрын
And with the threat of Dickerson a play fake is going to work
@light738
@light738 4 жыл бұрын
You know you fucked up pretty bad when the closest thing to what you did happened in a browns/lions game.
@TomG1555
@TomG1555 3 жыл бұрын
I can understand wanting to get the ball to Dickerson - he was the only home run TD threat the Rams had, with all respect to the Rams' WRs at the time. You're taking a risk b/c of ED's fumbling habit, but still, OK. But the huddling up between plays - WTF? And at the 12 second mark, just take the timeout and send out the FG unit, take the gift 3 points, and regroup at halftime. If you're not going to do that, Brock also has to have firm instructions that if the play isn't clearly there in the endzone, throw it away. But he couldn't get those instructions because, no timeout used. ugh.
@satanspit4101
@satanspit4101 3 жыл бұрын
What a stupid choice. Playing a great defense like the bears. You have to take a shot. To score a touchdown.
@shanehowell8169
@shanehowell8169 3 жыл бұрын
The '85 Bucs scoring 28 and 19 on the '85 Bears was the bright spot of the season. Then they drafted Bo Jackson and all that losing was over...
@mgb4692
@mgb4692 3 жыл бұрын
They were actually *up* 28-17 at the half in week one at Soldier Field, would have easily been the biggest WTF (week one or else) in NFL history had that held up
@marcus813
@marcus813 3 жыл бұрын
@@mgb4692 The Bucs also started out well at home against the Bears, but fizzled in the 2nd half in that game, too.
@russellseilhamer4552
@russellseilhamer4552 4 жыл бұрын
The Rams were moving soooo friggin slow. 63 seconds is an eternity for guys like Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Peyton and Eli Manning with like 70 yards to go, this is only 21 yards, they waste clock. They seemed to be content with a FG try when a TD puts you at 10-7 right back into the game. I still wonder what Marino would have done had the Dolphins made that SB. They shredded the 46 defense on a Monday night. Coaches like Robinson were commonplace, Marty Shottenheimer had a 21-3 lead on Miami in that years playoffs but wouldn’t let Bernie Kosar throw the ball and the Phins put eight men in the box to stop Ernest Byner in the second half and the Dolphins won.
@dondajulah4168
@dondajulah4168 3 жыл бұрын
Well, you needed a huddle to pull off such a tricky play as handing the ball to Dickerson up the middle. They would only run that play 30 times a game.
@RichV20
@RichV20 Жыл бұрын
Marino clobbered the 1985 Bears for their only loss of the season. Bears were lucky Miami didnt get past Patriots a few hours later.
@TR19
@TR19 3 жыл бұрын
Its not clock mis-management when they wanted the game to end. They were probably trying to end it to stop the pain.
@schaperart
@schaperart 3 жыл бұрын
If I owned that team Id have literally fired the coach at halfime - that is absolutely the stupidest thing I have ever seen a head coach in the nfl do during a game (and I watched every game Jim Zorn and Steve Spurrier coached in the NFL) That was so stupid Rich Kotite watches the clip repeatedly to feel better about himself Somewhere Adam Gase is watching this and wondering why anyone thinks the Rams made a mistake
@dondajulah4168
@dondajulah4168 3 жыл бұрын
epic comment
@sirmang9032
@sirmang9032 3 жыл бұрын
Someone who clearly doesn't know the rules of the time. Back in 1985 only players on the field could call timeout, not coaches.
@schaperart
@schaperart 3 жыл бұрын
@@sirmang9032 ok coach why didnt you direct any players to call timeout? Uhhhh Yeah you are so freaking fired
@danmeade2862
@danmeade2862 2 жыл бұрын
As my memory serves me, back then coach could not call timeout. It had to be done by a player on the field. This rule changed in the mid to late 99s.
@chipspangler736
@chipspangler736 4 жыл бұрын
That was impressively bad.
@earlostrohs3543
@earlostrohs3543 3 жыл бұрын
Horrible decisions against the Bears and not by the Bears. A rarity.
@vincentviscariello5011
@vincentviscariello5011 4 жыл бұрын
*Kevin Butler, not Keith
@Barnabas555
@Barnabas555 3 жыл бұрын
Caught this too...what a butthead
@Liamrd28
@Liamrd28 3 жыл бұрын
Mmm reminds me of Cowboys today 😂
@hailmaryrecordings8255
@hailmaryrecordings8255 Жыл бұрын
I grew-up in Chicagoland and turned 16 in the fall of 1985. What an amazing year.
@c71score
@c71score 4 жыл бұрын
OK, you're going to be hard pressed to top this one for dumb decisions.
@OfficialJaguarGator9
@OfficialJaguarGator9 4 жыл бұрын
I've already accepted that this is likely the pinnacle of the series in terms of stupidity. Got the next two decisions lined up (both in the late 80s/early 90s), and the Freddie Kitchens 4th and 9 is coming up at some point, but I'm not sure I'm finding anything worse than this. I was actually yelling at my computer screen when I saw this for the first time telling them to snap the ball and hurry up
@67marlins
@67marlins 3 жыл бұрын
You certainly were right about this - unbelievable......no explanation at all.
@jmad627
@jmad627 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember this and we were wondering what the hell Robinson was doing here. He probably forgot he still had a timeout?
@super539
@super539 3 жыл бұрын
and the OC for the Rams: NORV TURNER. Master of trouble getting plays in to the QB
@pronkb000
@pronkb000 4 жыл бұрын
This was mentioned on reddit, but I *don't* believe coaches had the ability to call timeouts in 1985. I feel like that rule wasn't enacted until the late '90s or early 2000s. Pat and John make a reference to "throwing the ball out of bounds" at one point--you couldn't spike the ball in '85, either. That's what teams did before spiking the ball to stop the clock was codified (I think around 1990), and in fact it's what Dan Fouts appeared to be trying to do in a previous video on clock mismanagement.
@Lawomenshoops
@Lawomenshoops 3 жыл бұрын
You could spike the ball in 85. McMahon I believe spiked the ball in the closing seconds before halftime of that Super Bowl.
@pronkb000
@pronkb000 3 жыл бұрын
That game's on KZbin and I just fired it up--he doesn't quite get it out of bounds, but it wasn't a modern-day spike, either.
@billbommarito
@billbommarito 3 жыл бұрын
I was at this game. It was one of the loudest crowds I have ever heard. It was a factor in both playoff games in Chicago.
@brucemarshall3446
@brucemarshall3446 3 жыл бұрын
SF beat them in 1988 . In freezing cold.
@billbommarito
@billbommarito 3 жыл бұрын
@@brucemarshall3446 Yes, I was actually at both 49ers games in 88. We beat you on MNF. Richard Dent big sack on Montana. Then in the NFC championship it was a different story. Close at the half. I went in to warm up. Met Irv Cross there. Then Montana went to work. Bad game for Bears. McMahons last game. My original comment was because in the video they didn't mention how much the crowd was a factor in the "dumb decision".
@davee.9906
@davee.9906 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Coach we have a timeout left! Didn't anyone say anything? And I'm an Eagles fan so I had Andy Reid to deal with and Rich Kotite.
@stephenh5944
@stephenh5944 3 жыл бұрын
Lions fan here, I'd take Andy Reid anytime, lol.
@OfficialJaguarGator9
@OfficialJaguarGator9 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen a clock management situation similar to this one? Any suggestions for future episodes of the series? Leave your comments down below.
@NaruTheBlackSwan
@NaruTheBlackSwan 4 жыл бұрын
There was a Lions Browns game a few years ago where DeShone Kizer audibled to a QB sneak from two yards out. The Browns failed to reset and snap the ball before the clock ran out. 0 points.
@pronkb000
@pronkb000 4 жыл бұрын
I know you're all about the NFL, but LSU vs. Ole Miss from 2009 is an all-timer.
@mgb4692
@mgb4692 3 жыл бұрын
But the Rams got a first down😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
@Metalbass10000
@Metalbass10000 3 жыл бұрын
No one, and I mean NO ONE, is WORSE at game clock management than former Wisconsin Badgers coach Bret Bielema. ... But THAT was SHOCKING! I actually got really irritated. If I own that team, I fire that head coach at halftime, and I give him a bus ticket back home. I don't want that mind-numbing stupidity, and ineptitude, anywhere near my team ever again. It was not only irritating to see the team do that, but to see the coach acts like everything was fine, business is usual, okay it's halftime, we haven't been able to move the football at all, we have the ball inside 20 yard line, no big deal this is just the way we wanted to handle this situation.
@ericfitzgerald9214
@ericfitzgerald9214 3 жыл бұрын
Try Texans at Niners 2009. Alex Smith let time run out on a first half drive which if I recall correctly, cost SF the game.
@rockstermaniac
@rockstermaniac 3 жыл бұрын
was spiking the ball legal in 1985? Cause you would never see a team go into the huddle without spiking their second down away in this situation these days
@darincornell5896
@darincornell5896 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't but in that situation, the quarterback would just take the snap and fire the ball out of bounds with a receiver roughly in the area. Accomplished the same thing even though it took a few seconds off the clock.
@marcus813
@marcus813 3 жыл бұрын
Way too much time came off the clock between each play. I can't believe the Rams didn't run a no-huddle offense there. There's no way they should've been shut out that day.
@diaz5292
@diaz5292 3 жыл бұрын
The Browns should be excluded from the database of NFL plays, just because they're a perennial outlier of pure hot garbage.
@NickGerse
@NickGerse 3 жыл бұрын
Mid 2000s Browns vs Lions = Poverty Bowl
@antfbi
@antfbi 3 жыл бұрын
My dad and grandpa where at this game. Sadly I won’t be born for another 3 years
@pronkb000
@pronkb000 4 жыл бұрын
Apropos of nothing to do with the video content, is Dieter Brock the only NFL QB to start a conference title game in his one and only season? He was a longtime CFL star who spent 1 last season in the NFL before retiring.
@dondajulah4168
@dondajulah4168 3 жыл бұрын
One season too many, if you ask me.
@dennisproulx3215
@dennisproulx3215 3 жыл бұрын
Did Dieter Brock think he was under CFL rules (one more play after clock expires)?
@lloydmarshalljr1951
@lloydmarshalljr1951 2 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of the Buffalo Bills' 2008 home finale with New England; they squandered the last possession of the 1st Half, and it cost them bigly as the Patriots shut them out by a 13-0 score.
@garydavis5703
@garydavis5703 3 жыл бұрын
Jason Garrett, ex-Dallas Cowboys Head Coach, would give you a run for your money on terrible time management....lol (and I'm a Cowboy fan).....
@zionreid2537
@zionreid2537 3 жыл бұрын
It was clear they were afraid of that defense
@dangeiger9796
@dangeiger9796 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of bad decisions, you should make a video about the Packers’ decision to kick a field goal in the last NFC Championship game
@OfficialJaguarGator9
@OfficialJaguarGator9 3 жыл бұрын
Already did: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqjNlqeir6ppqZo
@dangeiger9796
@dangeiger9796 3 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 somehow I missed that, I’m going to watch it now
@jeremybiewer5465
@jeremybiewer5465 3 жыл бұрын
Brock needed to take charge and get them up to the line. Why in the hell are they huddling? I blame most of that on the quarterback. The other on the coach obviously.
@nicholassmith479
@nicholassmith479 3 жыл бұрын
It may have been that both the coach and the QB were scared of Dickerson. But how the heck do I know? All three plays involved their star running back and nothing resembling a two minute drill. Passive aggressive much? Only the NFC Championship... did they really think they had a shot?
@marcus813
@marcus813 3 жыл бұрын
Brock should've known better there. I don't know how he didn't have them in no-huddle mode at that point.
@SeLLy261
@SeLLy261 2 ай бұрын
Wow! The bears TERRIBLE clock management at the end of todays 2024 Thanksgiving game vs Lions. haha
@OBESPRING1982
@OBESPRING1982 3 жыл бұрын
Do a vid on the sequence in this game where WR M. Young is pushed out of bounds well beyond five yards of the LOS and has a reception nullified for running out of bounds and reentering the field to make a lengthy pass reception.
@veritasinvicta8128
@veritasinvicta8128 3 жыл бұрын
Two words. No huddle.
@jamesage24
@jamesage24 3 жыл бұрын
Two more words: time out.
@gordonwhitney6052
@gordonwhitney6052 3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel a few days ago and am really enjoying it. Especially the Dumb Decisions series. But I personally feel this is the weakest entry in the series that i've seen. Largely because while I agree the clock management is utterly atrocious I feel the lion's share of the blame for the fiasco deserves to fall on the shoulders of QB Dieter Brock rather than coach John Robinson. As other commenters have mentioned this game was played before NFL coaches were able to call timeouts directly, so once Robinson sent the offence on the field, how much control did he really have? I doubt Robinson actually gave Brock instructions to fritter the clock away. (See below for more thoughts on Brock.)
@gordonwhitney6052
@gordonwhitney6052 3 жыл бұрын
A possible explanation (not excuse) for at least some of what may have been going on in Brock's head: This was Brock's first (and only) year in the NFL after playing (and starring) in the Canadian Football League for a decade. And the CFL has very different end of half timekeeping rules from the NFL. And those CFL rules are very offence friendly. I have to wonder if that decade in Canada hadn't desensitized Brock to how quickly time can run down under American rules. Part of me thinks playing the full season would have given him sufficient time to re-adjust, but maybe habits that had been ingrained for 10 years were harder to break than I realize. Still, clock management should be part of any NFL quarterback's skill set, and if Brock hadn't realized he needed to unlearn some of his CFL habits to be an NFL QB the blame shoule be on him.
@KMcNally117
@KMcNally117 4 жыл бұрын
3 plays. Drain a minute of clock. Not call a timeout. Lose.
@Staceyatkinson4496
@Staceyatkinson4496 4 жыл бұрын
When down this close, call time out then kick fg to make score 10-3 at half
@christopherengel7436
@christopherengel7436 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Honestly that was just as frustrating as the last time I watched it. I'm not a bit fan of either team, my only rooting interest is for a good game. I will never understand that. John Robinson was a good coach. He won a lot of games, a lot. College & pros. That was just.....?? My father said it the time the only thing that made sense to him was they knew it was over anyway and just kind of white flagged it. Also lastly if this had been a one score game this would have been a way bigger story.
@yebobbummann1622
@yebobbummann1622 4 жыл бұрын
Recency bias tells me Shanahan in Super Bowl 54 may have been just as bad, although their starting field position wasn't nearly as good. I'll just go with old faithful and say any 2 minute drill with Andy Reid at the helm.
@OfficialJaguarGator9
@OfficialJaguarGator9 4 жыл бұрын
That was bad too. But just to give an idea of how bad this play by the Rams was when put in the context of Super Bowl LIV: Kyle Shanahan's clock management at the end of the first half of that game was universally panned. On that drive, the 49ers started with the ball at their own 20-yard line with 0:59 left on the clock. On this drive, there was 1:04 left on the clock, and the Rams started with the ball at their opponent's 21-yard line. The Rams had five more seconds to work with AND had a field position that was 59 yards further down the field. And they still messed it up.
@grinningchicken
@grinningchicken 3 жыл бұрын
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 I thought you would say the falcons superbowl clock management was the worst ever
@marcelllocust2904
@marcelllocust2904 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly if they just don't huddle it's not that bad
@russellseilhamer4552
@russellseilhamer4552 4 жыл бұрын
Uggh The first Eagles Pats SB when the Eagles were down 10 in the 4th qtr but seemed to take 8 minutes off the clock to score their final TD. That was horrible. I’m a Jets fan. I remember the Joe Walton/ Ken O Brien years they managed the clock well. NOT. I had the idea of eliminating the 2 minute warnings from both halfs and give each team an extra time out. Both teams would have 4 timeouts and you could use them any way you wanted to in the game. You could use 2 timeouts in the first half and save 6 for the second half or 3 and 5 whatever
@john-paul9551
@john-paul9551 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the 1991 Monday Night Football game vs the Bears
@dentonyoung4314
@dentonyoung4314 3 жыл бұрын
WHY did they huddle? TWICE?
@thebauceman
@thebauceman 2 жыл бұрын
"Wow, that was awful." - Les Miles
@creepystares9853
@creepystares9853 3 жыл бұрын
That Rams team had a pretty decent defense and Eric Dickerson. They could not throw the ball on anybody that needed to stop them doing that. Bears were impressive that year, but the NFC wasn't that great for a year in the 80's.
@MustacheDLuffy
@MustacheDLuffy Жыл бұрын
Except for the Chicago Bears
@aegisofhonor
@aegisofhonor 3 жыл бұрын
if the only instance of similar "dumb decisions" is "Lions vs. Browns" in 2005...it doesn't really matter.
@Davepool-hs7vr
@Davepool-hs7vr 2 жыл бұрын
Do a video on the NFC championship game between the Rams and the Buccaneers in 1999.
@kessel12
@kessel12 3 жыл бұрын
Now is the time on football when we dance!
@F40PH-2CAT
@F40PH-2CAT 3 жыл бұрын
So that's what Brock did after 85 ... 😆
@jamesage24
@jamesage24 3 жыл бұрын
🎶🎶Kraftwerk🎶🎶
@CatsClaw44
@CatsClaw44 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap......
@timrobinson7373
@timrobinson7373 3 жыл бұрын
It would not have mattered the way the Bears were in that game like Singletary said "I don't care who we are playing nobody is going to beat us that day." Or is that what he said about the SB. Oh well did not matter Rams had no chance no team in NFL history up to that time was going to beat the Chicago Bears in 1985. They were on a mission from God
@text97
@text97 10 ай бұрын
What is really disturbing is that Coach Robinson wasn’t screaming bloody murder to the refs that there was :01 left on the clock. It’s like he was eager to tell this players to just go to the locker room. I don’t like believing the NFL is fixed, but shit like this makes you wonder.
@notezekielelliott4156
@notezekielelliott4156 4 жыл бұрын
How about Dallas when they faced the Vikings last year in their last drive?
@chernosquare
@chernosquare 3 жыл бұрын
The Lions Browns 2016 the same thing happened the browns messed up running the ball in at the 1 yard line
@Goomlahexpress
@Goomlahexpress 3 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute @Official JaguarGator9, 10 second runoff or timeout right? Or is that a newer adaption to the rule?
@chrisjamesr77
@chrisjamesr77 2 жыл бұрын
2:08 Now that's what you call missing a block, oops, lol. Where was #75 going?
@markgraham2312
@markgraham2312 2 жыл бұрын
At 3:44 you said: "The clock is in no way whatsoever an issue here." What? Wrong! The clock was THE issue. How can you say that? They had 1 timeout. How can a person of your experience say that "The clock is in no way whatsoever an issue here." ? The CLOCK is THE issue here. It was terrible clock management. The Dallas - 49ers game from 1/22/2022 was worse. The Rams at least got a 1st down and positive yardage. Coaches were not allowed to call a timeout in 1985. You should know that. In fact, when Vince Feragoma was quarterbacking the Rams, only team captains were allowed to call timeout. In this case, the Rams made a lot of mistakes. Huddling, not throwing passes to stop the clock. The Bears were playing 6 men on the line of scrimmage. Remember, the quarterback couldn't spike the ball back in 1985. But they still made a lot of mistakes. And there was no urgency in the Rams' play. This goes back to what I have been saying: Coaches are NOT smart people.
@67marlins
@67marlins 3 жыл бұрын
The 'worst clock management ever'...that didn't involve Tomlin...?
@johncate9541
@johncate9541 2 жыл бұрын
The Rams were beat before this game even started. Robinson was so afraid to trust Dieter Brock against that defense that he didn't manage the situation well. And he was probably right to. Brock played worse than if he had just spiked the ball on every single play. Robinson probably should have just lined up his offense in the Wildcat and snapped the ball to Dickerson on every play, but this wasn't a "thing" people did in 1985.
@andrewr7395
@andrewr7395 3 жыл бұрын
Bears Kicker was Kevin Butler, not Keith Butter
@F40PH-2CAT
@F40PH-2CAT 3 жыл бұрын
You could do a vid about the rams QB here. Oldest rookie of the year ever was one and done.
@Office_De_Receiver_Complaints
@Office_De_Receiver_Complaints 2 жыл бұрын
You know, I understand it was difficult to throw on these guys but why run on first down and chew up clock? I'd called it right there with 1 yd short and have :48 seconds. Or at least not huddle like Madden said on that last play and get the ball off and call it there.... Spike that bad boy or something! sheeesh
@ross.stanger
@ross.stanger 2 жыл бұрын
Ive got this game on VHS still. Ive seen this 100 times. Even if he did go for the fg......24-3 is the final... lol
@67marlins
@67marlins 3 жыл бұрын
You're wrong just about the Bears being the greatest defense ( I appreciate that you did preface it with the word, 'arguably ). 1976 Steelers and 1977 Falcons were better defenses.
@geekay4703
@geekay4703 3 жыл бұрын
2:02 *Kevin Butler
@misterpibb42
@misterpibb42 3 жыл бұрын
Remains as irritating today as it was then.
@andrewpadaetz5549
@andrewpadaetz5549 3 жыл бұрын
Keith Butler? I think the Bears K name was Kevin.
@grinningchicken
@grinningchicken 3 жыл бұрын
This is so painful to watch
@sfs2040
@sfs2040 3 жыл бұрын
The Bears best defender in 1985 was Walter Peyton.
@trekfortruth2841
@trekfortruth2841 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a payoff to me. Did Robinson pick up a new vacation home the next year? ??
@timrobinson7373
@timrobinson7373 3 жыл бұрын
Oh except the 1940 Chicago Bears that day might have had a good shot at it
@mattbradford8227
@mattbradford8227 Жыл бұрын
Any moron can see on the Rams punt, the Chicago player kicked the ball and didn't try to go for it. And the Rams intentionally didn't score. Dumb decision? No it wasnt. The Dolphins on MNF ran the Bears off the field at the Orange Bowl, a three TD win. And they couldn't beat the Pats at home in the AFC title game later that day? A Pats team they dominated in the two previous meetings? It was 24-14. Dolphins would have beat Chicago in the Super Bowl. But they had to fix it for the Pats to win to ensure a Bears Super Bowl. It was because Papa Halas died right before that season. All for him. It was all planned.
@dangeiger9796
@dangeiger9796 3 жыл бұрын
I think you meant Kevin Butler
@richerdchikosky7558
@richerdchikosky7558 3 жыл бұрын
After 2nd down i would have ran the clock to 4 seconds and kicked the fieldgoal
@Unknown-bq9id
@Unknown-bq9id 3 жыл бұрын
IMO, the Bears likely win the game (they were LOADED that year, especially on defense), but the Rams could have scored a touchdown/field goal here...
@deanknowles1631
@deanknowles1631 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin not Keith. Kevin Butler.
@dumisatonyjohnson8145
@dumisatonyjohnson8145 3 жыл бұрын
Worst clock management ever 2004 Eagles 🦅 *Super Bowl XXXIX*
@travisadams4556
@travisadams4556 3 жыл бұрын
Good lord 😊😊🙏 😂
@ericveneto1593
@ericveneto1593 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin Butler. :)
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