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Dune 1984: Costume Analysis and Review

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@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Check out my Costume Analysis and Review of Denis Villeneuve’s Dune Part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoPdiph5iMx0b7M and Dune Part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqiWYWCqrpmIr8U
@brianohearn7101
@brianohearn7101 3 ай бұрын
During theatrical release, the costumes went on a publicity tour. I saw them up close at a Jordan Marsh in Boston. They were incredibly rich and detailed, with aging to make them look well-worn. But the display was protected by nothing more than a velvet rope, and soon people had ripped off some of the eagle-embossed tunic buttons, and stolen a crysknife out of its sheath.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing That is really awful that people would do that but at the same time I am not surprised.
@KaritKtana
@KaritKtana 3 ай бұрын
😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
@ziggurat-builder8755
@ziggurat-builder8755 3 ай бұрын
I prefer the costumes in the 1984 movie. Though I do love Villeneuve’s movies.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Me too!
@SolidSnake-cn7mo
@SolidSnake-cn7mo 3 ай бұрын
Both were pretty close in design, I wish we got a chance to see the Navigators
@jeps1973
@jeps1973 3 ай бұрын
@@SolidSnake-cn7mo I wouldn't say they were close. The new movie costumes were meh to me. Some of the stuff looked cheaply done tbh. I think the 84 movie costumes were rich and gorgeous in comparison.
@quoniam426
@quoniam426 3 ай бұрын
Jessica's designs and hairdos are legendary in that Dune movie. Looking vaguely like a Renaissance Tudor figure. She looked both vampy and regal. Of course, Princess Irulan with her hairdo in the intro is an all time classic that throws Princess Leia under the bus... The Guild guys just inspired the Borg aesthetic in Star Trek TNG imo... Atreides uniforms are an all time classic, although I must admit, the Villeneuve version is very good as well and I prefer the stylized Hawk emblem of the Villeneuve version more with victoriously spread wings, resembling an inversed Hiigaran emblem in Homeworld video games. The stillsuits are fantastic in this movie. You add those to the Guild guys, you obtain The Borg !
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi quo, thanks so much for commenting. Great observations, thank you for commenting.
@SolidSnake-cn7mo
@SolidSnake-cn7mo 3 ай бұрын
That hair style that Jessica is wearing is used again in Blade Runner.
@rossrreyes
@rossrreyes 3 ай бұрын
As an Industrial Designer I prefer the multiple color pallets and decorative aesthetics of the ‘84 costumes and architecture, as opposed to the Villanueve monotone, less is more, choices in the new movies clothing and buildings
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi Ross, thanks so much for commenting. I completely agree.
@callen8908
@callen8908 3 ай бұрын
This film was and is polarizing, and the production was harrowing, but I personally loved it from the first viewing. The costumes and sets were opulent, uniquely presented, and incredibly detailed. Thank you for your analysis! You include behind the scenes stills, and discuss the fabrics and design influences. I love historical content, and your productions are always really interesting Edit: my favorite costumes were those worn by Bene Gesserit Nuns. They were suitably imposing, appropriate as they were the secret driving force manipulating events in the novels
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi callen, thank you so much for commenting. i love the Bene Gesserit costumes as well!
@lunacascade1125
@lunacascade1125 3 ай бұрын
I agree. It's great how Heidi uses stills and historical connections for the costume designs being discussed are not only educational but most importantly entertaining. I love Heidi's videos.
@Casandraelf
@Casandraelf 3 ай бұрын
in an unrelated note, I can't unsee gurney halleck carrying around a pug for the entire movie following the fall of the atreides. like, every single scene he's in, just... little pug with him somehow
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
@Casandraelf it's so cute 😍
@Casandraelf
@Casandraelf 3 ай бұрын
@@Costume_CO right? like...even when he's fighting, he's got this pug in a doggie stillsuit on his chest or something! it's so dumb and so hilarious 😂
@Mink-yu8nu
@Mink-yu8nu 3 ай бұрын
Lynch's Lady Jessica really was Queen of The Drip.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
She was!!
@jeps1973
@jeps1973 3 ай бұрын
@@Costume_CO I prefer 84 Jessica for sure.
@isaiahsmith7123
@isaiahsmith7123 3 ай бұрын
I know this film had issues, but the costuming and many of the sets were both otherworldly and timeless, advanced and anachronistic. Thanks for this review and the history of this incredible film.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi isaiah! Thank you so much for commenting! I am so happy to see so many positie comments on this flick.
@fredkelly6953
@fredkelly6953 3 ай бұрын
At the time sci-fi was all Star Wars sterile white this movie with it's renaissance aesthetic and baroque tech was a breath of fresh air although not appreciated as such today.
@DuneInfo
@DuneInfo 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the credit and link to my site! 🙏
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi Dune Info, it's my pleasure. Thank you for having such a comprehensive website. PS I followed you on X.
@emadSciFi
@emadSciFi 3 ай бұрын
great video. This is retrofuturism and also steampunk futurism, which is a lot more than I can say for the post-modern futurism in the new Dune movies!!
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting emad!
@emadSciFi
@emadSciFi 3 ай бұрын
@@Costume_CO You're welcome! While I was watching it and you were talking about Lady Jessica, i kept thinking of Sean Young in 'Blade Runner', especially the outfit she's in in the elevator at Deckard's building. and then you mentioned her!!!!
@SolidSnake-cn7mo
@SolidSnake-cn7mo 3 ай бұрын
​@@emadSciFiindeed, can you imagine if the 80s Dune got Blade Runner product treatment.
@davidanderson1639
@davidanderson1639 3 ай бұрын
As a long time fan of Lynch’s adaptation, I recommend checking out the 3 hour long Spice Diver fan edit. It reintroduces a lot of the scenes which were cut; Paul’s fight with Jamie, the collecting of the water of life, Thufir’s death etc etc. It also has a slightly different introduction & a few editing changes. It’s probably as close as we’ll ever get to Lynch’s vision. Dune was filmed in Mexico; both in the deserts & on huge sound stages. For all its faults, the cast is incredible, visually Lynch’s Dune is stunning & the soundtrack is on point. I randomly met Dean Stockwell in a South London pub several years back & I asked him about his time on Dune. On a side note: Ive just got hold of the 4K restoration of Dune & it looks stunning!! Also...the 80s toy of Feyd was planned to be released with the cat in a box as an accessory.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi David, thanks so much for sharing! What did Dean say when you met him in the pub?
@davidanderson1639
@davidanderson1639 3 ай бұрын
@@Costume_CO You’re welcome. We chatted about what it was like filming at Churubusco Studios & what Lynch was like to work with; not just on Dune, but also Blue Velvet. It sounded like shooting was as intense & fraught as you can imagine. Another little piece of information you might want to check out: Molly Wryn who played Jamis’s wife Harah, recently added an unseen piece of footage from Dune to her KZbin channel. It’s an incomplete scene that’s in the book, where Harah speaks to Jessica about Alia.
@davidanderson1639
@davidanderson1639 3 ай бұрын
@@Costume_CO thought I’d send you the link to the Molly Wryn scene that isn’t in the SpiceDiver edit. Enjoy!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpPEipyNepiHqs0si=d3uxLC2VYtIF5tnX
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Thanks David, YT holds my comments if there is a link. Thank you for sharing!
@JackSmith-gv5yw
@JackSmith-gv5yw 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the excellent video!. I loved the original 1984 Dune when I watched it as a kid, I always thought the visuals and costuming was top notch. The only major downside to me was that the movie seemed to have been squeezed into just a few hours, it really should have been at two movies! (like the new adaptations).
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Jack, appreciate your comment!
@jeps1973
@jeps1973 3 ай бұрын
I mean Lynch wanted to do that but the money behind the movie didn't want to. They caused so much friction with him he wanted his name taken off the movie. I wish they had let him have 2 movies or a trilogy.
@scotlandtheinsane3359
@scotlandtheinsane3359 3 ай бұрын
Genius level costume and set design and world building...not so much to recommend it other than this and the acting.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting Scotland!
@Stamboul
@Stamboul 3 ай бұрын
The Lynch stillsuits are one of my favorite things about the film, and while I find the Villeneuve films far superior, its stillsuits are definitely an exception.
@bdcmenorca
@bdcmenorca Ай бұрын
Absolutely loved the costumes, for accuracy, consistency of character, and subtle modern touches of colour and fabric. This was a good, well-researches video.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@bdcmenorca
@bdcmenorca Ай бұрын
​@@Costume_COSorry, wrong video. I was referring to your video of THE GILDED AGE!
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO Ай бұрын
@bdcmenorca haha, no worries. 😀
@JaneiroRoad-mm5zv
@JaneiroRoad-mm5zv 3 ай бұрын
A lot of the costumes were sold in a sale or given away to theatre companies here in Wilmington NC, nice to see them pop up over the past few years.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing Janeiro.
@TooManyHobbiesJeremy
@TooManyHobbiesJeremy 3 ай бұрын
Yea! fresh Dune content ❤ I really like how beautiful the princess looks in the opening sequence (great idea toi include it in your video).
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi Jeremy, thank you so much. I will let my editor know, it was his idea. :)
@serahloeffelroberts9901
@serahloeffelroberts9901 3 ай бұрын
She resembles portraits of Spanish princesses during the Spanish Empire
@nadermansour7487
@nadermansour7487 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I always wanted to know more about the aesthetics of the movie as well as the costumes.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
It's my pleasure nader.
@lovipoekimo176
@lovipoekimo176 3 ай бұрын
I loved that the Westwood Studios Dune games (particularly Dune 2000 and Emperor Battle for Dune) kept the David Lynch aesthetic and concepts (the Fremen carryin wierding modules from the movie) while also branching creatively (the designs for House Ordos, Baron Rakkan Harkonnen sporting the Harkonnen bull sigil on his back, the Tleilaxu). I particularly love the design of the Bene Gesserit.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi there, thank so much for commenting!
@finchfrance
@finchfrance 3 ай бұрын
How did the stillsuit sell in July 2024? That wasn't the impossible date. I think you need to release a corrected version... see 32:00 ("sold at auction for $6000 in July 2024") That's just one date, you also mentioned 2028 as being in the past...
@andrewglazebrook1585
@andrewglazebrook1585 3 ай бұрын
I couldn't believe that at the 1985 Academy Awards 2010: The Year We Make Contact (1984) was nominated but Lynch's Dune was overlooked, several of the costumes in 2010 were simply replicas of those from Kubrick's 2001 and everything else was pretty much overalls and NASA style spacesuits. Dune had totally original costumes and should have been nominated !
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
OMG, I've never even heard of that movie before. Thank you so much for sharing.
@kleopatra_editz7864
@kleopatra_editz7864 3 ай бұрын
At 8:33 you said 2028 idk if that was intentional or a mistake lol
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi kleopatra, my apologies, it was 2018: entertainment.ha.com/itm/movie-tv-memorabilia/dean-stockwell-dr-wellington-yueh-harkonnen-admiral-coat-from-dune/a/997051-2650.s
@stevescholz9196
@stevescholz9196 7 күн бұрын
Oh wow, I thought I knew everything, but that was great, I've never seen the headgear for the Fremen mentioned before. I've always wanted to make a still suit, and even got as far as sourcing fabric for it, but over the years I think I have a plan finally.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 7 күн бұрын
Wonderful, will you include the headgear?
@stevescholz9196
@stevescholz9196 5 күн бұрын
@@Costume_CO , very unlikely. Bordering on probably not with a healthy serving of Yeah Nah.
@lunacascade1125
@lunacascade1125 3 ай бұрын
Another excellent breakdown. The Grecian inspired costumes were my favorite. So elegant. I wish Lynch could have done better for the Baron both as a character and costuming. Thanks again Heidi.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi Luna, thank you so much. You didn't have to do that. I really appreciate you.
@kendrickkelly2336
@kendrickkelly2336 3 ай бұрын
Gah! Neoprene scuba booties + Actors/Extras x 100 degree heat = A nightmare of stinky, sweaty booties after every day of shooting. That poor wardrobe team! I learned quite a bit from your knowledge-dense Lynch Dune wardrobe deep dive. Thanks!
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Kendrick, yes, that must have been unbearable! Thanks so much for commenting.
@colindunnigan8621
@colindunnigan8621 2 ай бұрын
You might want to take a look at the costumes for the 2000 miniseries. Some interesting choices there.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 2 ай бұрын
Hi Colin, I plan on doing a review in the summer after HOTD. :)
@GholaMuadDib
@GholaMuadDib 3 ай бұрын
This was a great video. I love this movie. Saw it first on TV and VHS in the 80s, and later on DVD in the 90s. I love the stillsuit’s in this. Someone here mentioned doing the Sci-fi miniseries. I’m all for that. However, if you do, you should also add the Children Of Dune miniseries that followed. The toned down the costumes in that one. It would be nice comparing the two.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi Ghola, I will watch them both. I will likely do the Dune miniseries this summer. Thanks so much for commenting!
@castoputa
@castoputa 3 ай бұрын
Apparently the floaty fabric for the witches was incredibly flammable too!
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Oh, dear!
@Lazarus1095
@Lazarus1095 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to get your take on the costumes of the Dune miniseries. Frankly I think they were better- especially Alaia's.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi Lazarus, I think I am going tackle that this summer.
@Hopscotchlemonadespritz
@Hopscotchlemonadespritz 3 ай бұрын
I'd lik to see that, too. While the costumes from the miniseries are often slandered for looking "cheap," they're nonetheless quite often otherworldly and imaginative!
@tombaker4586
@tombaker4586 3 ай бұрын
I didn't know this, will rewatch the movie. Tom, Belgium
@Fishfrenchfry
@Fishfrenchfry 3 ай бұрын
Oh my god, the fact that this was achieved in FOUR MONTHS is astonishing.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
I know, isn't it crazy!
@fujifunmum5532
@fujifunmum5532 3 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable video! Just a minor correction: several of the auction dates given were in the future.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
TY I probably messed it up in the script. 😀
@charlieinslidell
@charlieinslidell 3 ай бұрын
Wow to think that the spacing guild were all wearing actually reused body bags that still had remnants left on them is chilling.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Yes, it's pretty gross. I imagine they did try to clean them somewhat.
@debbralehrman5957
@debbralehrman5957 9 күн бұрын
I liked the Movie. Loved the Costumes. Thanks for the video.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🌺
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 9 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@jakeku2662
@jakeku2662 3 ай бұрын
So the San diego Fire Dept. found a bunch of old body bags and someone said; "I know just the bloke to call about this."
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
☺️
@powmagazine
@powmagazine 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful narration for this video. I actually seen some costume pieces on display at MACY*S on Market Street in San Francisco before '80s DUNE was released. I was never fan of the movie because it was too rushed for a massive novel. However from the model work down to the costumes was impressive. The music was too dated. Even for its time we all knew the soundtrack would be outdated by the late-80s.The scenes taken out from the book were confusing and out of place or missing, especially if you didn't read the book. It was a challenging movie to watch as a viewer. But it is a fun pop cultural film to watch on a Saturday night with fresh butter popcorn. And for the new DUNE movies, they are perfect and respectful to Frank Herbert legacy.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for commenting and sharing.
@powmagazine
@powmagazine 3 ай бұрын
@@Costume_CO dont forget "2001" 😉
@zacetto
@zacetto 3 ай бұрын
Jesus….your knowledge of historical fashion is so encyclopaedic - as well as educational - I feel like I could hold my own at any high couture event. Another feast for the senses. Okay….although there was so much enlightenment, I was here primarily for the stillsuits, a word that still has me yelling out loud in frustration. A few years after the film, the much celebrated British fetish magazine, Skin II ran a tiny advert, practically hidden away in the ‘exotic’ personals section. It detailed that much of the suits in Dune had been constructed from rubber and there were many outfits up for grabs. More over, it seemed like they were being given away! I knew instantly that these had to be the numerous Fremen stillsuits. Although barely 16, I wish to Hell I had chased this lead up. The clandestine nature of the advert, as well as the then underground stance of the publication, seemed very much intended. They obviously intended it to be seen by fetishists. There was indeed an air of both mystique and prurience to the affair. A short time later I saw this 1991 video from the Scots synth group ‘Shamen’. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaHNn62uqb9ph8ksi=kmNUtSEGrjhrKci3 Forget Captain Picard, Patrick Stewart will always be Gurney Halleck in my eyes. He never looked cooler since Leodegrance in ‘Excalibur’. Thanks again for another thought- provoking, superb video!❤️👍🤗🤯
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
HI Zacetto, thank you so much for commenting and for sharing yout story. As far as my knowlede, I often have some things I recall from working on other shows, but I am lucky and sometime come across a picture, and think, ahah! That's it. Anyway, I am so glad that you love Dune as much as I do.. PS I will do a review of Excalibur in the near future. I think I was 14 or 15 when I saw it and we had to pretend we were of age because it was rated R at the time. Cheers, Heidi.
@zacetto
@zacetto 3 ай бұрын
@@Costume_CO Greetings, Heidi. I think Dune suffered the Bladerunner/The Thing syndrome, in that they were all too ahead of their time to be fully appreciated. I am also a huge fan of John Boorman’s Excalibur. For me, the apotheosis of period armour and the clear practicalities, like the leather buckles at the breast plate to fasten. I cannot wait for your costume analysis. Here’s a bit of trivia that always makes me collapse laughing. Watch this clip paying attention at the 1:28 mark. A knight ascending the scaffold, holding a cudgel in his right hand is clearly smoking a cigarette!!!! You actually see him place it in his visor, take a puff and leave it hanging in his mouth. The knight ahead of him also seems to be indulging, too.🤣 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHyqYpuhlKebsMksi=GPAmbFDIxv4CoY6y Enjoy!
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
OMG that's hilarious! Thanks for sharing. Now I want to watch the whole movie I wil try to get to it in June.
@zacetto
@zacetto 3 ай бұрын
@@Costume_CO I am glad you liked it. For me Excalibur rang in my tiny mind, “Helen Mirren in medieval dress playing witch?….Me like.” It helped the movie was also superb, too.
@magzdilluh
@magzdilluh 3 ай бұрын
Gotta time travel to 2028 to get that Dr. Yueh coat
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
😂
@jakeku2662
@jakeku2662 3 ай бұрын
I thought this film had finished disappointing me until you showed The Lady Jessica's knife pleated gown. How did THAT not make the cut?
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
I know, it's really a shame.
@jakeku2662
@jakeku2662 3 ай бұрын
@@Costume_CO Who's the better dressed, The Lady Jessica or Daenerys? Would be quite the showdown!
@Casandraelf
@Casandraelf 3 ай бұрын
those ventilation sections on the atreides desert uniforms are cursed as shit lol XD
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
😄
@solavita306
@solavita306 3 ай бұрын
I adored the womens costumes in this movie. They easily conveyed the wealth, power and strength of the female characters.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting Solavita!
@jamesleonard2870
@jamesleonard2870 3 ай бұрын
Great video! 🌊🏄‍♂️🪷
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Thanks James!
@ziggurat-builder8755
@ziggurat-builder8755 3 ай бұрын
Yes!!! Cool!!
@HONGRYGORL
@HONGRYGORL 3 ай бұрын
8:31 they bought the costume in 2028?
@davidpax
@davidpax 3 ай бұрын
Two things the old film did better; costumes and interior set design. The ruling houses are rich and it shows in the old film. Villeneuve took a minimalistic approach to both. Large empty halls and cheap looking costumes. Bad artistic choices, I think.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi David, thanks so much for commenting!
@markhendersonamodelofsurvi5771
@markhendersonamodelofsurvi5771 3 ай бұрын
I Am diving in to this new post now How could this have been a flop ?!?
@kosefix
@kosefix 3 ай бұрын
Too weird and confusing for most people I guess. But the costumes are iconic. Same design was used in the later Dune computer games as well.
@Costume_CO
@Costume_CO 3 ай бұрын
Hi Mark, the studio insisted on a 2 hour cut, but Lynch's film was closer to 5 hours. The Alan Smithee cut (Lynch removed his name) included some of the cut footage. Lynch hasn't released a director's cut that would be more in his vision.
@Hopscotchlemonadespritz
@Hopscotchlemonadespritz 3 ай бұрын
It's got a lot of problems as an adaptation, including clunky exposition and an attempt at duplicating the lengthy internal monologues that characterize the novel...
@Hopscotchlemonadespritz
@Hopscotchlemonadespritz 3 ай бұрын
However, the ambitious production deserves praise. The costume and set designs are exceptionally noteworthy, the effects frequently trippy and eye-popping as they are dated. Finally, Lynch's own stomach-churning body horror flourishes are evident throughout many set pieces.
@catsupchutney
@catsupchutney 3 ай бұрын
The costume design for Lynch's Dune made the movie tolerable.
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