Dune - Mystery of Life

Mystery of Life

[@MichaelMartinussen]

“Life is not a problem to be solved, but a reality to be experienced.” ― Soren Kierkegaard

[@flippert0]

This movie has many astonishing scenes to offer, but I think, this 'let go' moment is my absolute most favorite one. This feels truly transcendental.

[@Kopie0830]

let go luke, feel the force lol.

[@mendelevium2768]

Took the words right out of my mouth, this scene capture's Frank's writing style perfectly, it's so spiritual, cerebral

[@Jestersage]

@@Kopie0830 If one consider that Dune probably inspired many modern Sci-Fi, including Star Wars and 40K, I would not be surprise even that line comes from this.

[@bruceyung70]

@@Jestersageits possible. The book came out before the star wars which was originally supposed to have been a movie for young teens said G. Lucas. But I keep thinking they came out at about the same time.

[@y488]

Same here - after they entered the cloud of sand, I never felt so gripped by a scene. Resonates to this day

[@dcaxeslinger]

“There’s no mystery about a human life. It’s not a problem to be solved, but a reality to experience.” is actually a quote from the 3rd Dune book, Children of Dune. Currently reading through it and when I came across it I remembered this being said in the Denis film. Cool to see things being pulled from future books!

[@idontgetlaidbut]

It's in the first book as well

[@thegoodlifeonlybettr]

It gets better when you realize it’s a version of Soren Kierkegaards famous quote.

[@mediy0]

I wish I could see this in theatres again, once in a lifetime experience

[@Biggiiful]

It should probably do a limited run in IMAX before the 2nd one comes out I would think. Keep you're eyes open in 2023

[@jimi1999uk]

Yeah I'd imagine it would get a second slight run of a one off showing if you're lucky before next one.

[@myflippinggoodness8821]

Oh man, I IMAXed the fck outta this. So worth it👌

[@milo7463]

they will rerun this for sure when 2nd movie is out and then again when third one is out. Most likely they will air entire trilogy like LOTR once in a while too

[@Joshua0810]

Definitely!

[@Dale_Blackburn]

I like how the Dune spiritually and philosophically analyses the concept of free will and FATE. It is more like a grey area. Where your past and environment shapes you, you still have a choice between events. But usually in the first movie all of his visions were from the future. So in Dune universe, i think fate is something inevitable, that is always ''coming at you'' but if you fear your fate and lose faith, you will ''die''' So you must not fear what life throws at you and be courageous. ''I must not fear, fear is the mind killer.'' That's the ultimate message and theme there. Thats why this quote exist: ''The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience. A process that cannot be understood by stopping it. We must move with the flow of the process. We must join it. We must flow with it.''

[@jvx358]

There's a very cool school of thought in eastern philosophy called Daoism that talks about this exact concept. Basically, it's a natural acceptance that all of existence is arbitrary and mysterious. It believes that the universe has a natural flow to it and rather than fighting this natural order of things we should learn to accept and "go with the flow" which is called "Wei wu wei", the art of doing not doing. You can read this in a book called "Dao De Jing" which talks about the applications of this concept. Its a very good read.

[@MMarcuzzo]

@@jvx358 and a very exploited book by everyone. I recommend good translations, a lot of footnotes...

[@jvx358]

@@MMarcuzzo True

[@Jestersage]

@@MMarcuzzo Remember, though: Considering that it (modern pinyin is Tao Te Ching) is written in Classical chinese which doesn't have punctuations, even if one is a Chinese native speaker, tread carefully. In fact I found reading a bilingual version (ie have both Chinese AND English, in my case) is better, because you can also check your own understanding; sometimes the translator is wrong; sometimes it's the intepreter, be it the commentor or yourself that is wrong.

[@victormeas7898]

Even more telling is that this quote is almost verbatim what Hegel describes in "Phenomenology of the spirit"

[@HarBosSar]

It's also interesting that in this scene Jamis is preparing to *ride a worm* while saying that you can't stop it, you must move with the flow of the process, you must join it & flow with it... It gives this scene a double meaning.

[@Old_School_293]

Triple meaning. Jamis is also telling Paul to let go of his resistance of his destiny.

[@thealexkirschproject8036]

I love how this shows what could have been and how Jamis could have truly been a friend of Paul

[@dahui58]

Wait is this the guy who he has the knife fight with at the end? I thought he just looked like him

[@1337blackmage]

@@dahui58 In a way the knife fight was a teaching point for Paul from Jamis.

[@thealexkirschproject8036]

@@dahui58 it is. It was a vision of a possible future where Jamis is his mentor and friend.

[@zaklockman7527]

Paul's prescience allows him to see the past, the now, and many possible futures. Jamis wasn't just a possible friend and teacher to Paul. He was. That's why his loss to Paul is so much more significant. He killed his friend.

[@BWEEOOP]

Paul Muad'Dib *was* a friend a Jamis. Jamis taught him that when you kill, you pay for it. And in respect, Muad'Dib will give water to the dead.

[@TheErockaustin]

I love how they are showing Paul's visions, more like impressions or ideas rather than just showing the future. Of course, this is just the beginning of what he sees

[@Lavthefox]

As a glider pilot, I really found the sand storm flying to be very interesting! It's a little science fictiony, but the idea of letting the aircraft flow with the turbulence vs fighting it tooth and nail, and letting the updrafts carry you to smoother air is a legitimate thunderstorm flying technique! Beautiful scene!

[@Schyderap]

beautiful foreshadowing of riding the Worm

[@firstnongrata]

You might be interested to know that the quote 'the mystery of life isn't a problem to be solved, but a reality to experience', comes from the philosopher Kierkegaard.

[@jaybdub77]

2:21 when I decide not to do my homework.

[@Phoenix-Brah]

Hahah thanks for the joy my friend 🙏

[@roothik]

Beautiful quote, very inspirational and motivational for facing difficulties/danger/stress in a stoic way. Will keep it in mind next time I am windsurfing in demanding conditions. :P

[@Dale_Blackburn]

I like how the Dune spiritually and philosophically analyses the concept of free will and FATE. It is more like a grey area. Where your past and environment shapes you, you still have a choice between events. But usually in the first movie all of his visions were from the future. So in Dune universe, i think fate is something inevitable, that is always ''coming at you'' but if you fear your fate and lose faith, you will ''die'.'' So you must not fear what life throws at you and be courageous. ''I must not fear, fear is the mind killer.'' That's the ultimate message and theme there. Thats why this quote exist: ''The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience. A process that cannot be understood by stopping it. We must move with the flow of the process. We must join it. We must flow with it.''

[@17thshard62]

@@Dale_Blackburn Sounds a lot like the Dao.

[@skylinetouring]

Otherwise known as: 無

[@jordanturner7917]

Yeah but you usually don't have time to close your eyes and say a quote. It's just over lol

[@roothik]

@@jordanturner7917 Hmm you don't have to close your eyes and say something, just thinking about it and going in the water with this mindset is enough. And usually you have time for that, unless you are in the shorebreak... (Though i have a feeling you don't mean this literaly, but are just making a joke.)

[@itsok6640]

the sound design in this movie alone dude, so Good.

[@samuelfawell9159]

Damn smart of Paul, he knew the missiles would be weaker than the storm winds, and the flyer would be more durable

[@stevengordon2145]

In simple words both life and death move like grains of sand. The process must be experienced, the sleeper must awaken.

[@Dale_Blackburn]

I like how the Dune spiritually and philosophically analyses the concept of free will and FATE. It is more like a grey area. Where your past and environment shapes you, you still have a choice between events. But usually in the first movie all of his visions were from the future. So in Dune universe, i think fate is something inevitable, that is always ''coming at you'' but if you fear your fate and lose faith, you will ''die.''' So you must not fear what life throws at you and be courageous. ''I must not fear, fear is the mind killer.'' That's the ultimate message and theme there. Thats why this quote exist: ''The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience. A process that cannot be understood by stopping it. We must move with the flow of the process. We must join it. We must flow with it.''

[@aspirer47]

This quote literally defines the entirety of Dune.

[@doubleog6149]

I like how Denis Villeneuve "humanize" Jamus in the movie. In the book Jamus always wanted to challenge the "legend" of Paul Atriedes, and Jamus dies. In the movie we see Jamus as Paul "seeing" a possible future with Jamus as an ally instead of enemy. Perfectly written for film. In movie and book, Jamus dies. Paul's first kill.

[@aemiliadelroba4022]

So “ Let go !” Just like Star Wars , Obi Wan Kenobi !

[@ajithfernando1702]

Paul let go, like Jamis asked. That's how they survived the situation. Just like Obi Wan asked Luke to let go and trust the Force 😁😋🙂🤗🤗

[@robertk3962]

Thanks a lot for posting this.

[@aaronking5076]

Plot twist: Paul is using the Force. Dune = Tatooine 4000 years after Star Wars.

[@fabre97150]

Very beautiful quote. And it's so true!!!

[@CriticalPosthumanism]

i am so happy i watched that movie in theatre

[@LutzenkoAlexander]

My favorite moment in the film 🎥 I like this quote so much

[@TheDa6781]

As Nux would say: What a glorious day!

[@gavlatennis2824]

Brilliant film. Such a spectacle.

[@1000kings1]

The words that might have stopped the battle before it started. The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve.... but a reality to experience.

[@gerardt3465]

The sound design when the first transportation ship rises from the large body of water while PAUL overlooks it on the hill in CALADAN is immaculate and throughout the film it’s literally shook the cinema.

[@ToddyPoddy-fy5dc]

And into the Mother Storm flew Paul Atreides. Seeing him as one of her own, thus out came Muad’Dib.

[@alizoraizhassan7503]

such a brilliant film

[@MMarcuzzo]

This is touching

[@Count__Dyke-ula]

Jamis: *shows up in a vision* Me: Ah, sh*t here we go again. Prepare the tissues!

[@getnoscoped864]

his connection with Jamis is something so deep that i feel both the characters in the story and a majority of the audience don’t think much of it. There’s something beautifully tragic about Paul’s first life being that of a friend that friend that was and never was.

[@jaylll2003]

Breathtaking 😏

[@Runic-Raven]

I wish we had Aircraft like this.

[@GRDaniell4507]

DUNE (2021) craps all over DUNE (1984) ! Now I have to wait 1 year (October 20, 2023) for part two.

[@Phoenix-Brah]

I was so sad when I heard of the delay to March next year. But here applies that quote from Jamis again.

[@kevinstroup]

You would be so effed up from spinning like that for what, an hour?

[@Phoenix-Brah]

As far as I remember from childhood, spinning around with eyes open is surely worse and more nauseating than keeping them closed 😉

[@Brisingr2392]

Learn to let go.

[@maboroshi2550]

Jamis

[@Sun-jq4xx]

The mystery of life is not a problem to be solved but a reality to experience because God is the mystery of my life. A process that cannot be understood by stopping it. We must move with the flow of the process. We must join it. We must flow with it. If neanderthals have no soul then those with neanderthal dna have no soul and are not human anymore.

[@JhonatanCandidoxD]

See the friend... Lisan Al Gaib 🙏🏽

[@fivefifteen7957]

I hate myself… now have Morgan Freeman narrate this!

[@bazbuco]

Jon Vervaeke touches on this topic in his lecture series ‘The Meaning Crisis’-he talks about how western thinking has lost its capacity in what he calls “participatory knowing” which is knowledge/wisdom that can only be acquired experientially (vs deduction/analysis/verbal affirmation, etc). It’s one of the reasons that westerners are constantly seeking spirituality through eastern practices that preserved participatory knowing over thousands of years.

[@chocho8036]

Jessica was trained all her life as Bene Gesserit, and then as a Ducal lady... she was reserved, did not show her feelings, and trained to do combat and a hundred other skills dealing with martial arts, danger and meditation towards controlling fear... She had different modes that she could go into, controlling her own body and biology even, like controlling own body temperature, she could switch into "berserker" mode when faced with a superior fighting force, as opposed to her already supposedly terrifying fightin abilities..... I do not understand Rebecca Fergusons interpretation where she seems always emotional and stressed out. Her behavior, seems exactly the opposite of Jessica's training and physical abilities. she seems out of shape when they are climbing the dunes, and she should be as fit as Paul. I remember her in Mission Impossible 5, where she behaved more like a "Jessica" , calm and always in control. there are some impressive performances in this film, and it's the one that i cannot figure out... was reading the book required for all actors ?

[@writershard5065]

Personally, I liked her take on the character more. Reserved feelings work nicer in a book, but in visual media, expressive feelings work nicer. Also she often only shows this side of her when she's alone, or with those who are close to her (The Duke, or Paul). It's good to be able to see her emotions.

[@Whatsuppbuddies]

exaggerating the emotions of the characters also better serves the demands of the film, whose time spent with is vastly more compressed than the book

[@LadyStoneheart312]

As someone who's never read the books, if you're worried that Jessica came across as weak-willed or overly emotional you are wrong. Her emotions made her feel more "real", more human, they didn't diminish her strength at all but enhanced it. Yes we see her stress out when her son's life is hanging by a thread, is that strange? When both their lives are in danger and she can't do anything but hope, we see her afraid, is that strange? But when she used the Voice on those Harkonen soldiers we see a look of pure cold contempt on her face. When she's fighting the Fremen alongside Paul we see her as a headstrong and capable fighter and negotiator. Her moments of vulnerability allowed her strengths to shine brighter. If she was an unfeeling statue "always in control" I wouldn't be as interested in her or as impressed by her strengths

[@KS-xk2so]

I didn't get this feeling from her character at all.... she seemed rather controlled and reserved to me, at least in public. The whole point of seeing her emotional in private moments, like during Paul's test, is to then provide the contrast for her more public persona of control. Movies are a different medium, more show than tell. Books are easier to convey stuff like that in because you have access to a characters inner monologue. Her character seemed very focused as well.... seconds after escaping death for her son and rape then death for her, she takes time to focus on correcting Paul's pitch with the Voice, rather than be emotional or stressed. As far as being out of shape.... she looks very in shape in that still suit, and I didn't notice her struggling at all next to Paul, except for the fact that she's smaller than him... she also didn't look out of shape when she kicked Stillgar's ass in like 3 seconds. Not sure where you're coming from at all here.

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

The mystery of life is this : We all die alone.

[@getnoscoped864]

death isn’t the solution to the mystery of life. You must move with the flow of the process James

[@MM-hi]

1:24

[@gigs1890]

Star Wars 'borrowed' so much from Dune lol

[@SmartassX1]

Realistically, the vehicle engine would be in bigger trouble in the storm than the missiles. Also, in reality missiles are too fast to chase anything. They will either hit, or miss. There's no chase and they don't turn around and come back after missing once. Also realistically, considering the aerodynamics of the vehicle, folding the wings would make it fall almost straight down.

[@GrayCatbird1]

I know chasing missiles is a very common trope in action movies, but at least in this case, it can be excused by it's a sci-fi setting and these aren't real missiles. Regarding the vehicule in the storm, while its durability is indeed exceptional, wouldn't it be possible for it to stay aloft if the wings are exceptionally strong?

[@SmartassX1]

@@GrayCatbird1 It's not about how strong the wings are. It's that when the wings are folded back, they are all behind the vehicles center of mass. The center of mass can logically be assumed to be where the wings attach to the vehicles body. This is why it would go down nose first. Similarly to how old bombs are sort of roundish and have wings at the back to point them the right way while falling. But I guess the idea was that the wings were meant to be moved to different angles, so that the whole vehicle would spin while falling. This is how some plant seeds fall slowly with a sort of single wing attached to the seed, but the difference here is that the plant seed it's meant to resemble has only maybe 50%, or less mass in the seed and the rest in the wing, a helicopter-like vehicle would have 85+% in the engine and cabin the rest in the wings, so it would still fall quite steeply, rather than in slow and safe spin. But whatever, It's a work of fiction. I was just criticizing the fact that air intakes on engines need to not be taking in sand, because turbine engines can not handle that. Rocket engines (on the missiles) don't care about that and are fast enough to ignore the storm winds.

[@NavidIsANoob]

You have no idea what the atmospheric parameters of Arrakis are. You have no idea what the composition of those missiles are. You have no idea how strong that sand storm is. You don't even know how an ornithopter works, what kind of engines it carries. Just stop trying to sound like a smart ass on KZbin.

[@KS-xk2so]

You realize you just said "realistically" or "in reality" 3 times about a fictional flying machine that doesn't actually exist from an Alien world, like 20,000 years into a potential future lol Given the unique technological base of the Dune world, not to mention the presence of god knows what fictional materials that could be involved in the build, trying to apply modern day logic to any of this is quite silly.

[@SmartassX1]

@@KS-xk2so It's not a matter of applying logic, it's a matter of applying the laws of physics.

[@Cohagentron]

I'm 8 years old and 634lbs I can't stop eating cheese

[@moustafa2253]

seek help immediately

[@danielawesome36]

Professional help, hopefully.

[@FlyJonat]

It's a bot. The channel is 12 years old.

[@Cohagentron]

@@FlyJonat stop fat shaming me

[@davecrupel2817]

@@Cohagentron You want to die before you reach 10? No? Then *Face the Shame.* Because that is how you change, and save yourself.

[@darwinanderson497]

Ornithopters never made sense in the Dune Universe. You'd need a hell of a computational computer that could control those 4 "wing-propellers" and any computer that could do that would violate the ban on

[@kimora161]

I will be honest when Dune first came out I wasn’t interested…but my friends kept telling me give it a chance so I did and I loved it. Even read the series but hopefully they don’t turn Paul into such a villain because some of the parts of the book was really dark. Also can we please knock it off with the incest crap that’s just nasty 🤢 🤮😖. I hope Hollywood doesn’t mirror the book too much because that’s just wrong 😑.

[@haihuynh8772]

You mean Leto and his sister? Their marriage was political, only in name.

[@aldosam5317]

It's the year 10191. Our chopper has a 1950 cockpit.

[@nerd1000ify]

After the events of the 'Butlerian Jihad' in which humanity was almost destroyed by a catastrophic war against AIs, the cvillisation in Dune is obsessively opposed to use of any kind of advanced computer technology. Hence the use of 'mentats' i.e. humans trained to act as living computers. This is also why they need spice, without computers the only way to successfully navigate a faster than light starship is to use the future vision the spice grants to predict the right path. I'm guessing they still use more simplistic computers, maybe sort of late 1970s level technology. If you look at a photo of the cockpit of something like a F-14 it's pretty similar to what's in this clip.

[@doxielain2231]

There's a reason for this.

[@GrayCatbird1]

It shouldn't be that surprising when considering the design aesthetics of the rest of the movie. Plus the filmmakers stated the ornithopter was one of the things they chose to design in a way that would give some familiarity in this sci-fi world.

[@lucagiovanetti9870]

Yes it is a dystopian future. Not futuristic. Are you familiar with the novels?

[@starwart2000]

In a world without computers, it makes total sense.

[@eobardthawne5246]

This movie has shown that Frank Herbert wasn't imaginative and predictive enough to write a proper sci-fi novel. His imagination was limited to the technology of his time.

[@michalsirotek9766]

Herbert was not interested in technology, therefore the world of Dune is a post-apocalyptic universe where humanity focuses on the development of the mind. Not machines.

[@getnoscoped864]

bro he was born in 1920 what are you on about 💀

[@user-dh5ql6zc5t]

ههه وين غموض الحياه الله خلق الكون وامرنا بالعباده بس ابليس مخ مافيه ال الحبحر

[@user-zb5fc3hy8m]

Y all l are seriously overhyping this movie,

[@solunasunrise]

what she does is bullshit ... just by thinkin about fear you frame yourself already to have it no matter chanting about it badly..... instead chanting of bravery would be better !

[@HarBosSar]

How can you be brave if you don't face your fears and let them pass through you..

[@NavidIsANoob]

Bravery is persisting in the face of fear.

[@solunasunrise]

@@NavidIsANoob yep

[@NavidIsANoob]

@@solunasunrise So that's exactly what she's doing.

[@IwinMahWay]

You're bullshit. Fear was there before she started chanting. She just neutralized it.

[@michaelbohm5160]

Such a bad movie.

[@crazybabuskaman3923]

You have bad taste in movies then.

[@CRR1968B]

Is it bad because it’s actually bad, or is it bad because you don’t understand it.

[@lucagiovanetti9870]

Your comment is even worse!

[@lucagiovanetti9870]

@@CRR1968B he definitely doesn't understand it! But it's very popular these days to say that a good movie is bad! It's like a mantra.

[@LutzenkoAlexander]

No, it’s not

[@Sun-jq4xx]

The mystery of life is not a problem to be solved but a reality to experience because God is the mystery of my life. A process that cannot be understood by stopping it. We must move with the flow of the process. We must join it. We must flow with it. If neanderthals have no soul then those with neanderthal dna have no soul and are not human anymore.

[@getnoscoped864]

even looking into how DNA is replicated/translated/modified and passed on, it feels like it keeps with the them of a flow in life. It can’t be solved by stopping it. we must move with the flow of the process