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@DarkLadyAthena116 сағат бұрын
As long as it is well written and it fits within the Dune universe fans know and love them it'll do good. I liked the trailer. It looks exciting. And it does look a bit different than Dune. It could have looked more different but so far it looks good. We will have to wait and see the final product.
@js426615 сағат бұрын
Yeah, the trailer seems OK, we shall see. There's one detail I appreciated; you see them using secret hand signs, similar to the ones used by Jessica in the Dune movies (Atreides batttle language). I'm interested in seeing how they convey the order's mystique and esoteric practices.
@hucklebuck41114 сағат бұрын
I will withhold any major criticism for now, but I do have misgivings and questions. Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson have already created a prequel version of Dune history through their many expanded universe novels. Also, there is the reference material in The Dune Encyclopedia that often differs to what BH and KJA have written. Is this going to be yet another version of Dune history and, if so, do we need yet another version to add to the confusion? There is no mention of the other schools except for Swordmasters. Will the development history of Mentats, Navigators and Suk doctors even be discussed, since the interplay between all is important to the expanded Dune universe?
@willard3912 сағат бұрын
This. The sisterhood started out on Rossack according to BH and KJH, and I liked their original story (as well as the Mentats and the Guild Navigators). I've always argued that BH and FH were not as chauvinist as they've been accused as the Bene Gesserit really pulled the strings of the Empire for a long time, but fuzzy on the timeline and this idea that they're jumping through time is silly (those dead sisters are only voices and can only really impact present and future, right? We're not going for time jumping space nuns?) 10k before Dune is like 190 AG. The Bene Gesserit weren't even formed yet, nor was the Guild. I'll give it a go, but I get tired of everyone just creating their own lore just for the adaptation. It's certainly not working for ROP.
@track194914 сағат бұрын
Quinn and Nerd Cookies is now my go to for all this info. Thanks!!!
@Twenty-Seven14 сағат бұрын
So in theory this show should take place around the time of things like the discovery of the Holtzman Effect, the founding of The Guild, the beginnings of Mentats etc.
@shanenolan562514 сағат бұрын
If they go by the brain Herbert books , the should have shields, already, the first mentat school should be being established, the guild will be known as vendors industries, ( it will become the guild soon )
@jamesabernethy789614 сағат бұрын
This is when they begin to discover how to refine Spice to serve different purposes. That could be another interesting political tool.
@Twenty-Seven14 сағат бұрын
@@shanenolan5625 I read the two Brian Herbert sequels but not the prequels. Some of the most terrible fanfiction I've ever read.
@shanenolan562513 сағат бұрын
@@Twenty-Seven I read 7 prequels and 3 sequels and I agree, if anything the writing gets worse, the more you read ,
@AnthonyPinkerton-d7p4 сағат бұрын
Actually, if you read the latter books of Dune, you’ll discover that all the questions are eventually answered. But, be warned you’re going to be switching from book to book in order to get the timeline correct.
@raccoons_stole_my_account14 сағат бұрын
This is probably the rare case where it's a warranted approach but I gotta say, I am so freaking tired of 'multiple timelines' media omg.
@paulh246815 сағат бұрын
I’d prefer to see the prequel story of the Duras sisters, L’ursa and B’etor. They are magnificent, aren’t they? TNG should have given them way more screen time.
@jamesabernethy789615 сағат бұрын
Lursa and B'etor really were great characters, they both had their own characteristics. Even though they were brought back a few times they should have been given more screen time.
@RJ420NL10 сағат бұрын
Aye, they were great characters from back when Star Trek was good TV.
@champisthebunny600314 сағат бұрын
In this vast galaxy spanning empire, across 10,000 years or more, everyone you meet or encounter, will either be an A) Atreides, B) a Horkennen, or C) possibly a Corino (though that is kinda unlikely). The reason for this obvious, this 'feud' between two not yet 'noble' houses, is the single defining feature of this huge sprawling empire. If any other figures or groups, played a role, it was basically a minor, supporting one, at best to this feud. While this feud does come to play a role, it is not the reason for the events on Dune itself. Even if the Harkonnens and Atreides had basically good, or neutral relations, the emperor still would have approached them with his plan to destroy what he saw as a rival who could potentially eclipse and supplant house Corrino.
@anarwally12 сағат бұрын
I think with the Villeneuve adaption of Dune and now this show there is too much focus on the Sisterhood. They say there is so much more to the Dune universe but all of the attention seems to be going to the Bene Gesserit.
@Agamon16 сағат бұрын
Great as always! Thanks Elaine!!!!!!!!!!
@kenaustinardenol1338Сағат бұрын
As far as I can remember Valya was the Harkonnen sisyer who worked her way up in the Bene Gesserit ranks, while Tula went on a journey to take revenge on the man responsible for the Harkonnen downfall, Voryan Atreides. Now, that are two storylines I would like to see
@ericpowell435011 сағат бұрын
So, this is HoTD ... in space ... sans dragons? Got it.
@ulfsark7815 сағат бұрын
Just reading the title made me roll my eyes. It's gonna SUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
@70briareos14 сағат бұрын
Ahh, I see we have someone here who has the power of prescience!
@ulfsark785 сағат бұрын
@@70briareos it's called pattern recognition, I'm sorry you're lacking.
@70briareos5 сағат бұрын
@@ulfsark78 - Ooooooooh, Lisan Al-Gaib!!!
@joetheperformer7 сағат бұрын
Why is it that people can’t think creatively? How come the Bene Geserit DRESS AND LOOK THE SAME EVEN 10,000 YEARS AGO?!?! Who in their right mind would believe that this 1 uniform they have WOULD REMAIN THE SAME? …I mean, I guess black is always in…
@AsttoScott3 сағат бұрын
If there's Gen X working on creativity we're fine. If it's anyone younger who spent the majority of their childhood looking at a phone. You won't see any creativity, just more copy paste trash.
@jacobnavarro367510 сағат бұрын
Not sure if this is Entertainment Weekly's mistake or if it came from the showrunner's words to them, but the explanation of the BG as the "order that will one day manipulate Paul's rise to power from the shadows" is a pretty clear misunderstanding of the plot of both the books and the films. To miss the arc of Paul's rise coming DESPITE the plans of the BG is a huge oversight, IMO, and kind of concerning to read coming from the head creatives behind this project, if it was actually their words and not EW's misunderstanding of them.
@wordsofcheresie9369 сағат бұрын
No, the Bene Gesserit did manipulate his rise to power. It went wrong for them at the very end, but they created the blood line that produced Paul over many generations, they manipulated the great houses, and they used the Missionaria Protectiva to create the religion that actually brought Paul and Jessica to power.
@GianmarioScotti16 сағат бұрын
I have a deep antipathy to anything that Brian Herbert and K. J. Anderson have churned out. This, even if onlpy partly based on their work, just isn't for me. Note that I am a HUGE fan of all of Frank Herbert's work, but especially his great Dune hexalogy.
@jamesabernethy789614 сағат бұрын
Although I have explored some of the later lore the only Frank Herbert Book I have experienced is the first one. I do have plans to do the others... okay I'll just come out and admit it, I'm listening to them Audiobook. Because I like to start at the beginning, I've listened to the Atredies Novel (Awful) and the first Butlerian Jihad novel. While Brian and Kevin don't have anywhere near the style of Frank, I actually enjoyed the Butlerian Jihad one. Dune was still much better, but I still enjoyed it.
@shanenolan562515 сағат бұрын
Thanks Elaine
@jamesabernethy789614 сағат бұрын
I'm still on the fence about Prophecy. I 'm not an expert on the Dune books so I can't remember if they had begun their breeding program at this point. That would have been a good way to explore some of the other houses, not just the main houses from the Frank Herbert Era.
@AsttoScott3 сағат бұрын
It would've been far more interesting if it was all about the Atreide's or Harkonnen instead of the concubines they've been banging on the side. Seeing a bunch of women forcing everyone to do what they want them to do whether they like it or not seems very boring.
@hydorgol3 сағат бұрын
The names and plotline sound very mutch "Sisterhood of Dune" written 2012 by Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson. There are now a lot of prequels - not even remotely near the level and quality of Frank Herbert, but Brian owns the IP now ...
@behavior8528 сағат бұрын
On Earth, ten thousand years ago was the end of the second ice age.
@duncanidaho45656 сағат бұрын
I like those letters
@grahamjones540015 сағат бұрын
After one war, one global plague , one Hollywood strike, 2 elections and America on the verge of civil war, we finally get to see Dune Prophecy! 😃 Talk about delays 🙄😒🤨
@track194914 сағат бұрын
Americans, especially the ones on the right, are too fat to fight in a civil war. 😂 They're not giving up NFL tailgating parties. 😂
@laskojames16 сағат бұрын
Good stuff,Nerd.
@grahamcann176112 сағат бұрын
I am always dubious of entertainment that starts a past-story. Because I'm afraid they eventually visit the future too many times. Look at Star Trek: Enterprise. How many aliens in OS & NG did they encounter, that'd never been seen before, only for them to show up in ST:E or ST:SNW. And Battlestar Gallactica when they did a series prior to the Cylon Attack. Or Game of Thrones... you get the idea. As always, thank you so very much for your videos.
@randallcrisp326614 сағат бұрын
New voice flow 🙌
@zaidvargas83015 сағат бұрын
Im so excited for this show!
@AsttoScott3 сағат бұрын
So long as it isn't another series/movie that's all about women showing men they can do everything better than they can do I'll watch it.
@blacktronpavel7 сағат бұрын
I certainly hope they tie to the Denis Villeneuve’s adaptation.
@themanagement15359 сағат бұрын
OMG Anderson's dreck? I'm fairly certain anything inspired by the new Dune books will not be good...those books are contagiously bad.
@EnterTheFenix11 сағат бұрын
Oh I think the change to a more Villeneuve aesthetic has probably just saved the show. Like it or not, that look has become the mainstream-recognised visual language for Dune.
@AntiEstablishmentRhetorician16 сағат бұрын
So how was the Boni Moroni school established on Wallach-Eli?
@Razazan3715 сағат бұрын
Frank Herbert's books are amazing. My second favorite science fiction series behind Dan Simmons Hyperion novels. This isn't based on a novel by Frank Herbert and is just more fan fiction set in the universe he created. For all those looking forward to the series I hope it's done well, but I just can't muster any excitement about it myself. I also fear that this will be yet another vehicle to push modern political sentiment, given the subject they've chosen. But hopefully I'm wrong and this will be something well done.
@ladyhotep51898 сағат бұрын
I worry that you'll have 1 crew working on the past and 1 crew working on the future with the show feeling like nothing meshes. If that makes sense. Like I hate when you can tell different people produced/directed each episode.
@vsank20008 сағат бұрын
The timeline seems off. The events of Paul Atreides Dune takes place in the year 10,192. The Spacing Guild and Bene Gesserit orders occurred after the religious jihad around 6,041. So how is this show 10,000 years before the events of Paul Atreides?
@GallowayJesse10 сағат бұрын
based on the prequel novels = zero interest in watching the show
@toh78611 сағат бұрын
Looking forward to this 💯💯💯💯💯💯
@bennygerow13 сағат бұрын
Sounds very HOTD season 1
@RJ420NL10 сағат бұрын
If it doesn't include Little Timmy Soy Boy it has more of a chance. But I'm skeptical about everything coming out of the modern "entertainment" industry.
@evilcartmensolo719815 сағат бұрын
All those catchphrase words the writer/ director used to describe their take between what frank write and what they've made up for show sounds exactly what they said about rings of power. So that is very worrying.
@per-c822914 сағат бұрын
If I'm correct the series is more based on Frank's son (Brian) books than the original 6 from Frank, and I think is an original story set in the same universe in a period that the books don't talk about, I'm not against it tho, Brian's books already retcon some thinks and the movies even more so as long is consistent I'll be interested. Also the fact that is about middle-ege ladies is the only reason I'm willing to give it a change =)
@craigwhitley152914 сағат бұрын
There's an trilogy written by his son Brian, with Kevin j. Anderson, that details of creation of the major schools... The Bene Gesserit, the Mentat school and the development of the Guild, and I would guess they're going to draw heavily on that material. It's impossible to tell how much from the little bit of footage we've seen other than the fact that the Harkonnens were involved at the very beginning of the formation of the Bene Gesserit order
@lordcrunk479013 сағат бұрын
The Rings of Girl Power
@NR-rv8rz5 сағат бұрын
So they went from a story of powerful women manipulating prominent men from behind the scenes to powerful women and also prominent women. Every single male role must be subverted to be a female role now. They already have a focus for the show which is the BG who are the actual hand that controls the empire but they need to have the central character in the empire story also be female.
@dagnasty897 сағат бұрын
Shapkerhouse
@henrymach15 сағат бұрын
This show will be the Dunecolite... take note
@mangacomics160115 сағат бұрын
The Harkonnen coward thing happened 10k years before the events of Dune? That's a long time to be angry about something.
@Jmnzz10 сағат бұрын
I've got a baaaad feeling about this...
@BaalAdvocate15 сағат бұрын
Oh my God no!
@methanoid14 сағат бұрын
Much prefer the sound of your voice on this one. Less stilted and scripted and more relaxed. 🙂
@Adam-r8z6g9 сағат бұрын
I don't know if more matriarchal space witches synchronising their cycles is the best choice here, given the response of late to likewise similar film tropes. It's not only bad writing which sinks film franchises, toxic feminazi driven agendas which vilify and alienate men have a large roll in repulsing revenue.
@duncanidaho45655 сағат бұрын
You had my interest but now you have my attention this tale of middle aged women and their machination needs to be told
@MaverickPilgrim15 сағат бұрын
Can we agree upon the use of the term "Duniverse" (pronounced DOON-i-vers)?
@jamesabernethy789614 сағат бұрын
Most of the UK will still end up pronouncing it June.
@Emanon...2 сағат бұрын
I don't know, man. The Brian Herbert stuff is just plain bad. Let's hope they've made changes and adapted the story to be more than just that. We'll see, I guess.
@bobsyme31188 сағат бұрын
Oh no.....A prequel idea,F man really bad idea.Please tell me its not made by Disney.Unless frank Herbert's done the writing then i think they should get sue'd
@G-3-A-R-Z3 сағат бұрын
They picked the lamest time line to run it from. They could have gone back to the war against my cymeks brothers and Omnius the overlord. But you know, they are going to go off script here you can see. Oh well. 🤖🤖🤖
@Jetstoanywhere14 сағат бұрын
I dislike the movies and I have little faith in this.
@napinthesun4 сағат бұрын
I don't need spice to see the future train wreck this series will be.
@neondemon513715 сағат бұрын
It'll be interesting to see if they make it a girlboss show when they're basically the biggest villains in the history of the Duniverse.
@fremendude865315 сағат бұрын
Umm, the Bene Gesserit are an all-female organization and they steer politics and eugenics in their favor. If you’re worried about “girlbosses” then you’re wasting your time with this show.
@chrysm68429 сағат бұрын
I know it's a detail and I don't mean to be rude or intrusive but what happened to your voice? It seems different...
@ericjohnson_7213 сағат бұрын
they lost me at a nonlinear story, its fails too many times and breaks you out of your immersion. Firm pass on this new show
@track194914 сағат бұрын
L
@redtaperecorder111 сағат бұрын
Sorry, but the sets and the costuming for this series just look cheap and ugly.
@timothymorrell402315 сағат бұрын
.../sigh Frank Herbert is my favorite author, and although i liked the last 2 movies, the way they ruined the Paul / Chani relationship ruined the movies for me. I am afraid this is going to be more of that crap.
@jamesabernethy789614 сағат бұрын
I'm a massive fan of the '84 movie and even like the mini Series. I finally got around to the First Frank Herbert novel before the new movies. The Chani situation was weird. I kind of worry that she will stop scowling and become the birth of a rebellion against Paul.