Dungeon Master Sends Player SHOCKING Photos

[@marybdrake1472]

That second story was insane. You can't change someone's preference. It doesn't work like that.

[@tuomasronnberg5244]

The weirdest part is that he stuck around for eight months of that!

[@marybdrake1472]

@@tuomasronnberg5244 Yeah, there is getting caught flat footed so to speak, and then there is putting up with something you clearly shouldn't.

[@vexxama]

I knew a guy at university like that. He had a crush on this guy who was straight, but when people said it was a bit unfair to put that on him and not respect his orientation by constantly bringing it up around him, he flipped out on us and called us bigoted. He had a whole laundry list of things like that, that he could do no wrong, was the centre of the universe, and anyone who doesn’t agree with him just didn’t like him because he was gay. Apparently it was impossible to not like him for him just being an asshole with a short fuse

[@marybdrake1472]

@@vexxama Ah yes, vanity. The same kind of behavior often demonstrated by guys who can't accept "I will never date you because I'm a lesbian". It's both wrong and harmful no matter who is responsible for it. And the obvious lack of self awareness is another recurring behavior I've noticed. Either way, they never get it.

[@SupremeCommanderBaiser]

Just charm person. It always works like that in thease stories.

[@jamison85]

"As good as critical role" always makes me sigh. If you've got engaged players, and you're having fun, be it in a serious game or goofing off a bit, then your game might even be better for you. Yes, CR is great and all, but it's not the game I'm playing.

[@AuntLoopy123]

Yeah. CR has its share of weirdness at the table, but not even a quarter of the weirdness WE get at OUR table. We don't have the cool voices or anything, and all the NPCs sound the same, but we get WEIRDNESS. Seriously, my players throw me for a loop, every session, at least twice.

[@rdmrdm2659]

It’s sorta like people tagging on movies by saying “well yeah it’s popular and did well, but it isn’t ART!!!” When the point of the movie is to entertain people. If it succeeded at doing that, then it’s a good movie. If a game succeeds at making its players have a blast, then it’s a good game. Full stop.

[@Michaeljack81sk]

The DMs from story 2 and 4 deserve each other. #2 can keep trying to seduce #4 while #4 keeps telling #2 his rolls don't count and that he has the wrong skills

[@SolrSurfr3]

The kitties are indeed a welcome mental break from the bs in these stories

[@AuntLoopy123]

I LOVE the kitties on this channel!

[@jinglesbejankin7322]

I've only ever made one Pathfinder who's sexuality was a matter of public knowledge. Him only because the party met his wife and children. A circumstance the result of the party staying in the town he lived in for a bit during the quest. He met his wife at the local Barbarian convention. She was leaning against the weight rack, making it tilt. Their first date was a meal of protein powder over the cracked skulls of a Goblin raiding party. His first and eldest son was a fucking nerd wizard, but his second son was practically just dad 2.0

[@manegirl93416]

Sounds adorable!

[@porkupineexe6862]

I’m running a GURPS game where I have to determine the sexuality of all my NPCs before hand, because some of my players took the Attractive advantage, which means they gets a bonus on a roll *if the NPC is attracted to the PC* It’s the only time it ever comes up, but every NPC encounter we have pretty much immediately starts with “So do which way do these guys swing” for the purposes of determining how well they get along during the conversation. I also try not to outright tell the players when a NPC is of a different sexuality than what would provide the bonus,,, but it can be pretty obvious lol. It has been a fun way to get more diversity because usually I don’t decide their sexuality until they met and I do with a roll.

[@travisbishop782]

That's awesome.

[@jinglesbejankin7322]

@@travisbishop782 Huge fan of Ronal the Barbarian

[@travisbishop782]

@@jinglesbejankin7322 i'm not familar with that.

[@ryanrizzo4869]

That second story...Holy crap...DMs like that belong in isolated padded cells.

[@soultpp]

Doge + kitties is such a wholesome atmosphere for subjects that are often very much not wholesome in the extreme. It's a dynamic that I really love! Keep up the amazing work!😊

[@porkupineexe6862]

The language story…. Almost so cool honestly? I would flip out if my dm made up a language for us, it would be the coolest thing ever! Especially if you could you know actually speak that language, but uh…… as much as *I* would love to learn a conlang like that, this very much so is still a role playing game. What if I wanted to roleplay as a character in modern times who spoke Spanish even though I couldn’t? Would this dm have expected me to learn Spanish lol

[@yarraidalg]

same! as a linguist, i'd quite enjoy the idea of a conlang-infused game, provided it won't be sprung on me when i'm at the table, but rather discussed in advance

[@rubensrpc103]

Hi Doge, I usually don't comment on videos, but just wanted to tell you that you are my favorite rpg horror stories content creator, keep up doing the great work and lots of nat 20s to you

[@3of6mylove]

Pretty sure that kind of language barrier is exactly why the "common" or equivalent language exists in the first place. No one wants to have to learn a new language just to play.

[@Evoker23-lx8mb]

Exactly, nothing says that common has to be English. Usually it would be because DnD’s a western game but common is just your first language, what’s common for you and preferably your party.

[@RiveroftheWither]

I wanna say that there was one minor red flag in the "Mantranil" story. I don't trust people who say "nya" unironically.

[@icecreamnoodles3742]

Yeah, absolutely.

[@ch3ls3ab0t6]

My brother in law does this and… yeah. You’re right. Lol

[@Pachitaro]

it's pawsitively unnyacessary 😔

[@rollanddev]

But what if the person is swahili and their name *is* "Nya"?

[@brianvance1178]

@@Pachitaroyou’re not nearly as punny as you think you are

[@thronezwei4412]

Your kitties always make me smile.

[@SirXer]

Well we have to do what Ziggy says, he is such a mighty warrior! Thank you for putting the timestamp around the second story. That kitty break was just what we needed!

[@ShiroTheTraveler]

I think some go murder hobo cuz they know they drive the other players insane with their behaviour. They enjoy annoying people to no end.

[@TheOvervoid]

I can relate to op's reasoning of not wanting to let the group down.

[@foisopracurtir6389]

How? It was the only DM davailable? Fear to stick out?

[@unluckyone1655]

Well, when you put alot of hours into a game and get attached to your character, it's kindof hard to just walk away more often than not. Though this kind of harassment should not be tolerated one bit, I can tell OP was shocked and not used to this kind of behavior so I won't be too harsh on him. I hope he learned from this and is playing in a better game with a better DM and hope he never gets creeped on again. That's tough to deal with no matter who you are

[@foisopracurtir6389]

@@unluckyone1655 Thank you for you reply

[@ChaosCounseling]

I’m trying to process the whole you have to memorize my made up language story…

[@Evoker23-lx8mb]

If my characters are ever speaking in a language that’s not common, I just say what I’m saying in English but then say “My character says that in X language.”. That’s all that should be needed.

[@MrfnordTim]

13:24 What *I* don't understand is that half the table *didn't* think that was too much!

[@mesiagamer5217]

Passive is a floor for that check for a reason.

[@vortega472]

Ziggy! Ziggy! Ziggy! Oy! Oy! Oy! Not only am I subscribed, and have the alert on, but I comment to make sure KZbin knows you have traffic Doge. Ah, the second kitty viewing was cleansing, was that the whole gang? Were we missing anyone? As a final "treat" for us we get a couple of Lucky scenes. Now I can go about my day with a smile on my face. Thanks as always for a great Vid.

[@marooniballooni03759]

if the dm from the last story actually botched that campaign simply not to be the dm for the main campaign, that is both so stupid, and so smart, that I'll still call him a dumbass for not communicating it in the first place if that was the real reason.

[@FordPrefict42]

Understanding the human psyche better than some, I would definitely have to say that the DM who sent unwanted pictures and advances has an addiction. He really does need to speak with a specialist.

[@Vyndora]

I can sympathize with that last story. While it's not exactly the same, I left a group once for a similar concern. I made a tanky character to protect the other PCs and literally nothing attacked me. For all the sessions I stuck around in that group for I was attacked, and I means this without exaggeration, ONCE. And that one time was because there were three melee PCs around the creatures and the DM was rolling to see who they attacked at random. I ended up leaving because the outcome of every single thing the group did would have been exactly the same without me there.

[@Creshosk]

Metagaming DM (Yes DMs can do it too.) with a DM vs PCs mentality where he was playing to win from the sounds of it.

[@Vyndora]

@@Creshosk Oh I absolutely believe that. While I was already feeling like leaving, I did approach him about it and he let that cat out of the bag, but I don’t think he intended to. He said he knew he couldn’t take me down quickly and had to isolate me from the party to have any chance of wearing me down. That was actually the thing I felt was the final straw in my decision to leave. I love playing support because I want people to be free to be the epic badasses they imagined when they built their characters.

[@RichBensen]

An inexperienced DM thinking his game is going to be as good as one put on by a bunch of professionals isn't so much the Mercer Effect as the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

[@deepseastonecore3017]

Thanks 4 all the hard work.

[@Thedragonlover95]

Its crazy with these stories,,,but the cat's are always happy to see

[@notoriouswhitemoth]

By saying they want their game to be "as good as" Critical Role, they're creating a false equivalence, that forces them to use similarity to Critical Role as their metric for how good their game is. You should be measuring how good your game is by how fulfilling an experience it is, which gives it the potential to be infinitely better than a show you have no say in.

[@AuntLoopy123]

How to politely shut down unwanted sex pics. "Oh, well bless your heart!" That's it. That's all you say. Nothing more and nothing less. Do not repeat. Just say it once. After that, DO NOT RESPOND. Especially if you are dealing with someone from the South States in the U.S. I wish I had learned that earlier.

[@Zaint]

My players complain about languages in my games already but even I don't ask them to learn the language irl.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

If half the table did not want to learn a made up language, does that mean half the table did?

[@Lersa25]

If they did, I bet it was a bad language - just, probably, encrypted English with a poor vocabulary of words replacing english words. No way someone could learn new grammar system in a week well enough to really express complex ideas.

[@9liveslie-cat-lie129]

So many kitties is the d&d dogo building an army of the night?

[@axel4196]

To the Matt Mercer wannabes: Your reach has exceeded your grasp.

[@Zeina107]

Thats what she said 😅

[@lordruxlinhogie5912]

Is it weird that I found the story about the players being expected to learn a made up language more shocking than the title story?

[@icecreamnoodles3742]

Maybe because sexual harassment is, while definitely the worse of the two, more common and expectable than someone expecting of you to learn a whole ass made up language. Never have I heard that before. Sexual harassment tho? In almost third story.

[@michaelcohen8259]

Just how many cats do you have?? . They ARE cute.

[@unluckyone1655]

So... many... kitties!

[@garfjaconsen1161]

I'll do a lot for immersion but I'm not learning a new language to play!

[@TaoScribble]

Um? DM is just flat-out trying to kill OP in that last story.

[@StarBlazerM31]

Lucky's meow is so precious!!

[@LynxieDove]

The Matranil story...I kind of like the concept..of having your group learn to speak a new language from your world, to make it even more immersive. But this is a good example of how it can really backfire. As for why the DM didn't want to play in English...I think they lost their momentum for the campaign. Hopefully, they can manage to collect themselves and be able to DM something in the future.

[@kevinchong5424]

How hard is it to understand? The game is not the show. I mean where are the dynamic monsters fighting when playing Yugioh?

[@ChaosCounseling]

Get the insulated rubber suit on we’re in for something shocking

[@axelwulf6220]

The last story hits home like a baseball hits a window I make a build I find optimal for me (decent attack, decent defense, skills I'd believe would be useful in the long run, gear that doesn't suck) The campaign he's in might be suitable for him to flex his power, but the DM won't let me do it

[@PTp1ranha]

Second DM just says "ok" and leaves. What a non-reaction to getting called out for harassing people like that. You can tell he doesn't care what he did to these people nor see any problem with it. He will strike again.

[@myautobiographyafanfic1413]

Come for the doge, stay for the cats.

[@bsabruzzo]

Passive perception isn't instant radar and it's not a minimum. It's the feeling something triggers when it is just out of vision or hearing. Active perception can still be worse. And investigation is getting up close and looking or touching.

[@AdmiralBlackstar]

Learn a whole 'nother language? I only speak two languages, English and Bad English.

[@SnaxTheSnaxolotl]

Time for the Doge abs kitty show!

[@jaydenleveille8181]

The DM in the last story is definitely in the wrong for a lack of communication and ignoring the alert feat. But as a DM myself I don't use passive skills. And with a passive perception of 30 a DM is stuck down 2 paths really. They can either accept it and tell the player everything and never hide anything. Or be forced to hide everything through magical means. And it can risk the player becoming the main character as every situation would start with describing the whole set piece to the one player or risk invalidating the build.

[@Yoxiv]

Ah nice, King's Field, there's a classic series

[@rustyshackleford1910]

Ziggy attacks 😈

[@AuntLoopy123]

The first-time DM, who wanted his game to be as good as Critical Role should take note that Matt Mercer booted out a player, when he became a problem, so that he did not continue to be a problem, and explode the whole game. Tiberius is barely even mentioned in the comic books, and not mentioned, at all, in the animated series. Orion Acaba (sp?) was a problem player. It wasn't so bad, apparently, at their home games, but once they got into the public eye, he became worse, and actually caused problems with the FANS, so he had to go. Critical Role is great to watch, and you can definitely learn a LOT from watching it, both on how to play and how to DM. One of the lessons to take (and you'll only get it from series 1) is when to cut the ties with a problem player. Unfortunately, you don't see HOW to do it, as it happened backstage, but yeah. You can see the cut-off point. And Tiberius wasn't even a murder hobo. He was just a selfish player who couldn't communicate well, which caused problems with the others.

[@Rossweise]

"Aa Good as Critical Role" Oh? You'll get close friends to play for years together until you have a well established group with a DM that can manage all the players well, then start a webcast in the middle of your current campaign, have really janky audio, paper maps that the DM drew himself, one friend that has fame go to their head and have to leave the game and improve so slowly you're actually kinda shocked you where so successful so early due to the fact you were ONE OFF the pioneers in webcasting RPG sessions? Like... If you wanna be Critical Role you have to have the full Critical Role journey, it didn't started with the Mighty Nein you guys, there was a lot of work that went into making CR as good as it is today... Thinking your first RPG campaign is going to be like CR, is a lot like thinking your first short fantasy movie is going to be like Lord of the Rings...

[@AuntLoopy123]

Well said! Those early broadcasts were... well... they WERE entertaining, because the characters and stories were entertaining. The production values VASTLY improved by the second series.

[@ILikeCornYouKnow]

The problem with the other language story is not so much having that other language and speaking it, but not providing translations to the people who didn't or couldn't learn it IRL, in my opinion.

[@unknowfornow35]

first story? Clearly a troll doing it for the lulz.

[@whiterabbit7494]

lucky treat now pls :)

[@DisneyChar]

2 parties in one world sounds fine, golden child murder hobo solo sessions seemed to be the issue and likely huge favoritism

[@michelcosta76]

*unsuscribe for 10 seconds so can be attacked by cat and subscribe again*

[@theofficerfactory2625]

Subscribe peeps or a cute black void will send ya to the shadow realm! (black fur everywhere) Story 1: Sigh. The Matt Mercer effect. Wait; it's worse. How does this murder hobo go from leather face to captaining his own warship?!?! Story 2: Not a scummy DM; he's sewer DM. People like him is what made me not want to even look into DND for years! I have a feeling that OP is a female and thus why this happened. So many shadow cats about! There was little Alice who is growing fast; Nipsy, Ziggy, Lucky are adorable. WHat's the name of the orange tabby that you have? Story 3: Oops. Wrong reddit avatar. That... was weird. Just a bit too much DM. Hello Lucky! Story 4: What? Passive perception is basically what the PC sees and sees in detail via their attention to detail. How DM played this was just total BS. Bad DM! Yay. Treats for Lucky!

[@naarelservs9713]

doesn't the OP in the second story say that they're not into men and are straight? or did I mishear something

[@theofficerfactory2625]

@@naarelservs9713 They did. Probably the first attempt was to get him to stop. "I'm not into men" line comes from that attempt. Personally; I would of gone to the authorities cause that is crossing the line; sending unsolicited sexual content to an unwitting party.

[@dionnejinn3789]

YIKES!!!

[@Wintercide]

'I just went along with it' I dont know who needs to hear it, but.....NEVER GO ALONG WITH SOMETHING YOU ARENT OKAY WITH.

[@REfan2002]

I'm early for the Doge.

[@Evoker23-lx8mb]

How does a character have a 30 passive perception at level 6? With 20 wisdom + alert even at level 20 with proficiency in perception your passive perception is 26, increasing to 32 with expertise. Maybe OP just got that detail wrong.

[@krazykorean2525]

see this is where you save the pictures then sue for harassment. in that situation you could've just asked for his name and address (obviously lying about why) then file it. have fun sending pics when you're about to be sued for a few hundred thousand dollars.

[@diegorodrigues9528]

I see it i click it

[@Zeina107]

What are you playing?

[@DnDDoge]

Tarnishing of Juxtia. Like a 2d darksouls

[@Terestrasz]

I can't tell you how often I've had people try to "Convert" me from Asexual to Allo. :/

[@Xokoy]

10:13 The council has gathered On a more serious note, there is a certain stigma to calling out the DM in the story just before that clip. In this day and age, if you're straight and you say anything that isn't positive about anyone who isn't then you risk being labelled as a homophobe and shunned from that group of people. As for the story after that, some people just really like their conlangs. Maybe there was an easy way to translate between English and Matranil. Even if that conlang was that straightforward for an English speaker to learn and use, it's still a lot to ask and daunting if nothing else.

[@gazblackheart4596]

The players didn't read the info they were given obviously so the language one is 100% on them, it could have been brought up way before the first session IF they had actually read about it and understood what was expected.

[@patdav56]

Editing error I noticed, you reused the Pinkalink graphic for the second story rather than the actual author (who I cant tell is ItchyInfluence or EcchiInfluence. Either way is a bad influence yo have by name alone ngl :P)

[@rynowatcher]

The third story does not make much sense to me; a passive perception of 30 seems a bit much. +5 for awareness feat, +5 for having a wisdom of twenty, and you can get a +5 if you go digging through the dmg for highly rare magic items is the best I can count. Home brew feature? Generally, the high passive perception is the same problem as most min maxing; you just increase the numbers so the creatures have a +20 to stealth or whatever so it is not a given outcome if you want surprise to be an option. It is brute force, but that is hoe a lot of gm's handle someone who cheeses the rules to do 50 damage on first level or something, so does not seem that bad to me. Surprise is a really unspectacular factor in 5e anyway; it really only comes up with very specific classes or monsters, so I do not know why you would do a build that specific.

[@porkupineexe6862]

32 is about the max you can reliably get as a player 10 base Wis = +5 (as you say) Perception Expertise = + 5 Observant = +5 Advantage = +5 (phb “Passive Checks”) But aside from that: when is having an entire turn where your team just goes first an unspectacular bonus????

[@rynowatcher]

@@porkupineexe6862 sure advantage gives you a +5, but how are you getting that reliably? Not to mention they are getting attacked by boars. Assuming this is level appropriate, they have to be at least level 8 for two feats and the darkness affecting their sight? Even dark vision counts as dim light, so that would cancel any advantage they had unless they had advantage from two sources.

[@Lersa25]

Well, the player put a lot of effort and resources into that high perception, so why steal the joy from him? As you say, no surprise is not a big deal. Just let him see the freaking goblins a moment before they attack. But if the party knew about the ambush, they could be creative with that, and that's certainly not something a DM wants from them, right? And if the DM knew that he does not want Passive Perception and lockpicking in his game, then he could tell the OP so. OP would just put those resources into Con or whatever. But it's easier to say nothing and hate the character.

[@porkupineexe6862]

@@rynowatcher Steady Eye feature. 9th level Inquisitor Rogues get adv on all perception checks. You might also be able to con the dm in to giving you advantage for “working together” Any number of magical items grant advantage on Wisdom (Perception) checks such as the sentinels shield or eyes of the eagle. The spell Enhance Ability will give you advantage on All Wis Checks for an hour. Also Im not saying the player is right, just that *you can* easily get up to a 30, you only need one feat (variant human) 1 Ability Score Increase (assuming you roll or point buy an 18 Wis) and the dm to be willing to grant you advantage. Perception expertises are just a class feature, for rogues at first level so. You can literally have all of this by level 4. Actually get access to almost all of it at level 1, the only thing you have to wait on is the Ability Score Increase. Also darkness is not that hard to deal with, produce flame is a cantrip. You can also like,, buy a torch or a lantern

[@rynowatcher]

@@porkupineexe6862 this dude was hiding in darkness to get an advantage on an ambush, so I am thinking he was playing a race with dark vision, and throwing a pack of boars at a 9th level party seems beyond easy; not sure why you would even complain about not being able to see them coming as a +4 is not very likely to hit them at that level unless you had a lot of wizards. There is a twighlight cleric spell that gives you 300' dark vision, but most races only have 60' dark vision, meaning they are blind past 60' and creatures within that 60' have advantage on stealth checks because it is treated as dim light. OP is complaining about not seeing things till they are 30' away, which is how most dark vision would work (passed first check and failed the second as they crept closer). Sure, there are a lot of magic items that grant advantage to wisdom/perception, but they all tend to be toward the rare side of things and advantage does not stack, so an item that grants advantage with a team member doing the help action should still only give you a +5. Plus a dm that less you start out with a rare magic item is throwing boars at you? This just seems odd.

[@MortalMercenarae]

That last story is... Not the dm's fault. Also passive perception is bullshit.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

While I do not disagree with that, the DM should have stated from the start that there was no Passive Perception in his game. Don't let the players guess what your houserules are and punish them from guessing wrong.

[@yourface2464]

Just gonna say, DM detected. Passive perception is perfectly fine. I don't see why you would ever want to roll every 10 seconds. And I don't see how you could ever assume that a player character is blind and constantly surprise them, then say it isn't the DMs fault. That story wasn't merely the DMs fault. That was just a bad, bad DM.

[@Lersa25]

@@yourface2464 It's just the same kind of DM who specifically asks you to roll a cleric into the party that already has 2 healers, then in half-year campaign NEVER you encounter any undead (there were undead armies assaulting cities right before I joined), and just ONCE there are multiple melee enemies to throw Spiritual Guardians at... but first, the DM makes sure that your war cleric is inavoidably incapacitated for the whole fight, of course.