Craig here with some clarifications. 3:56 No, that image as well as all of others depicted here are from much earlier in the timeline. This one in particular could represent Azor Ahai sacrificing his lover Nissa Nissa. 11:00 The books describe the torture as lasting 13 days before Blood was allowed to die. And Alicent wanted to know his real name so she could bathe in the blood of his family. 19:17 You met the husband in the last episode. He was the blacksmith who asked for his payment up front. His name is Hugh. 🔨 20:54 No, the castle at Harrenhal was melted down about 130 years earlier by Aegon the Conqueror with Balerion the Black Dread. 23:18 That isn’t Daemon and Caraxes; that’s Seasmoke. He’s the dragon that Laenor used to ride. 24:20 I absolutely loved Otto in this scene (and this whole episode). I was never a green, but as Hand, he made all of the right moves in this episode, only to have it all thrown out by Aegon and Cole. 31:00 This is the first time the show has mentioned Alicent’s 4th child. The intro credits from season 1 showed that he existed, and the show runners confirmed it in interviews, but this is the first time they mentioned Daeron on the show. We will see more of him later :)
@John_Locke_1087 ай бұрын
Thanks! Been two years since I read the book and I've forgotten 99% of it. Been debating rereading it but who the heck has the time. Plus my 5 year old took my Kindle and I can't find it.
@Caraxes_RoguePrince7 ай бұрын
Also don’t forget the book is written like a history book so we don’t know if everything that’s written is facts….like we know they captured blood but don’t know for sure what went down with the torturing and stuff like that. We know daemon sent blood and cheese to kill somebody but we don’t know if it was the kid,aemond or Aegon himself that was sent for stuff like that just to keep in mind when talking about the book.
@CraigKostelecky7 ай бұрын
@@Caraxes_RoguePrince I absolutely love that about the source material and think it's pure gold for Ryan Condal and his team to adapt. They are usually given 3 versions of events, and can even say that all three of those are wrong and make up their own that could be still written about as it is in the history books down the road.
@Caraxes_RoguePrince7 ай бұрын
@@CraigKostelecky yup i actually loved the way George wrote it and always found it so fascinating but even reading it you could tell it was green propaganda for the most part imo for obvious reasons as well
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
Great job Craig! ❤Steve
@balerion777 ай бұрын
21:25 HARRENHAL was already MELTED By AEGON "The Conqueror " 128 years before NOW.
@emma-kati7 ай бұрын
31:11 Daeron (Alicent's youngest son) hasn’t been mentioned in the show earlier. I think they were planning on cutting him out of the show as they seem to have with Aegon and helaena's younger son (maelor) but people were so pissed off about it that the showrunners just kind of added him in like this… leaving people who haven’t read the book doubting their own memories.
@Aewon847 ай бұрын
From what I've heard they're not cutting Maelor. Instead he'll be a newborn rather than a toddler.
@dmille19597 ай бұрын
"The king is my grandson, and my grandson is a fool." Lord Otto of House Hightower
@tonismith37077 ай бұрын
Funny enough, Otto was ready to kill Rhaenyra's children, along with her and Daemon.😊
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
I honestly forgot about that. This show is awesome! ❤Steve
@ak144597 ай бұрын
Alicent thinks the god’s are punishing her and her family because she had sex with criston and that’s the reason the child died because it was a “sin”. it’s not entirely logical, but considering she is a religious woman it makes sense for her character.
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
It does and you’re correct I feel. Then she goes and has boom boom again after knowing she is being punished. Interesting. ❤Steve
@GlennShook7 ай бұрын
@@DuoReacts well her and cole wouldn’t be the biggest hypocrites to ever live if they didn’t keep it up. They have to maintain that compete scum status. F the Greens.
@KCohere337 ай бұрын
I believe that couple was the blacksmith (and his wife) who was asking Aegon for more funds upfront for his work. Aegon promise that he would be paid but that was before all this happened.
@CraigKostelecky7 ай бұрын
Correct, that was Hugh. And I have to think Aegon paying the smiths early is about as high on his list as closing the fighting pits was on Otto's list of priorities.
@shannyd17 ай бұрын
No that wasn't Daemon passing by, that was a grey dragon Seasmoke flying alone im sure.
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
Really? Where did Darmon go then? To me I needed to know where he was headed and what he is thinking. ❤Steve
@shannyd17 ай бұрын
@@DuoReacts Daemon and Jace both said Daemon was leaving for Harrenhall. Daemon is going to secure the riverlands for his queen by taking Harrenhall. I personally feel Daemons hurt by Rhaenyra's lack of trust in him but will always fight for her & team Black 🖤
@nicolelush69807 ай бұрын
it was seasmoke you are correct
@shannyd17 ай бұрын
@@nicolelush6980 thought so, i remember my dragons lol
@DukeJimbob7 ай бұрын
thanks I thought it was Daemon too
@bluegypsy717 ай бұрын
1st time I ever agreed with Otto, he was salty AF dealing with Aegon & Crispy😅
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
He was like {Otto} I had the master plan and you can’t use common sense, now Otto is fired, Crispy is the Hand? I feel this is a huge error again by the King. Larys is in the shadows twiddling his thumbs and I think he will undermine Crispy. ❤Steve
@cristinademartini12847 ай бұрын
Now Otto knows what shit Viserys had dealt with.
@ak144597 ай бұрын
it’s crazy they forced helaena to have to be part of the public funeral but spared the king. especially considering helaena’s trauma from being in the room when the child was murdered is probably worse than aegon’s. it just goes to show how this society favors men and their comfort over women.
@CraigKostelecky7 ай бұрын
I do understand the logic of it from Otto's point-of-view. Seeing the queens grieve will gain sympathy from the smallfolk. But the king breaking down in front of the public could be seen as a weakness to some of them.
@ak144597 ай бұрын
@@CraigKostelecky yes but the logic is horrible that the women have to suffer this and the men get to do what they want. and it’s because it’s a patriarchal society.
@sproductionsinc7 ай бұрын
@@CraigKosteleckyWhich is part of the sexism.. men can’t show emotion.
@sproductionsinc7 ай бұрын
@@ak14459Things would’ve been a lot easier if they would’ve just let women do the same things as men from the very beginning lol
@Mutazili7 ай бұрын
@@ak14459 Dude again had no one to console him because 'men don't cry' he lost his son in a horrifying way and can't even grieve except in secret---their society is messed for both genders...
@lmj2k7 ай бұрын
Rhys Ifans (Otto) absolutely knocked it out this episode. Up to this point, we have seen Otto be so maddeningly controlled and manipulative. This is the one time we see him lose control, and it is fucking masterful.
@CraigKostelecky7 ай бұрын
I 100% agree. All of the acting was phenomenal here, but Rhys really stood out.
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
I absolutely love your passion and have to say I share the same passion. His acting is on point and his character is one I enjoy! Now for Otto what and where does his character go? ❤Steve
@dumahim7 ай бұрын
Missed opportunity to have one of these episodes titled "A Song of Blood & Cheese"
@iRival207 ай бұрын
20:54, harrenhal was already melted during aegons conquest a century beforehand
@derekjones83077 ай бұрын
I was coming here to say this lol
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
Thank you. I guess we were wrong on the timing. Dangit wanted to see dragon destruction! ❤Steve
@tonismith37077 ай бұрын
The damage to Harrenhall happened during Aegon's Conquest.😊
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
Okay because we were under the assumption we might see the destruction. ❤Steve
@DukeJimbob7 ай бұрын
Give us one season of Aegons conquest for the non book readers please and I wouldn't be mad at a Roberts Rebellion show why they're at it
@CraigKostelecky7 ай бұрын
@@DukeJimbob I am not sure if I want to see a series of Aegon's conquest. There isn't much conflict there as it's very one-sided. But it does set a foundation. And seeing Balerion the Dread at his peak would certainly be amazing. And seeing the fallout after Aegon's death would be interesting as well as Maegor's reign. After Hot D finishes the Dance era, I would like to see them focus on the first of the Blackfyre rebellions. They could also do a Crown style show about the reign of Jaehaerys.
@DukeJimbob7 ай бұрын
@@CraigKostelecky might could do it in a movie then
@dmille19597 ай бұрын
@@DukeJimbob "HECK" YEAH
@DouglasMC8107 ай бұрын
Herrenhall is already in ruin it was destroyed during Aegon's Conquest
@sylviastraughton43187 ай бұрын
Hi Steve Hi Lacey You're right Lacey he was projecting just like he was when he was talking to Aemond that night about how Rhaenyra spun the web and trap Alicent in it everyone knows we was talking about his self and that hit he put on Rhaenyra I believe that was personal for him
@oga-booga7 ай бұрын
I mean if i got Graped by my boss and my only option was to flee the country and marry her or tell someone and get a public execution i would probably allso be a bitt salty.
@joshy_bish7 ай бұрын
Halaena (if that's how you spell her name) has what's called dragon dreams I think, foresight granted to her due her lineage. I wish people around her listened to her and took her more seriously but she seems to be a Cassandra type character where she is cursed to be able to see the future, but to never have her premonitions believed.
@CraigKostelecky7 ай бұрын
You are very close with the spelling. And to elaborate on what you said a bit, Helaena herself doesn't fully understand her dreams either. She did start painting images of some of them on her walls. It's hard to see in the episodes, but they took the time to design the set in that way.
@joshy_bish7 ай бұрын
@@CraigKostelecky I didn't Google her name in case of spoilers 😬 And yeah that was my sense of it, that she didn't fully understand them. Thanks. I didn't see the paintings until I watched a behind the scenes episode, all the set design is stunning!
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
I really enjoy her character but I feel with all she has been through her life will be shortened. I don’t want that! Again love her character and find her interesting. ❤Steve
@joshy_bish7 ай бұрын
@@DuoReacts Maybe she should just say F this and get on a boat somewhere, then go set up shop as Mystic Meg 🔮
@samuraiwarriorsunite7 ай бұрын
Interesting theory, guys, about Alyn. That's all I'll say on the subject.
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
Ughhhh lol. I have another theory I will share at the very next episode. ❤Steve
@Blitches-SLXM7 ай бұрын
sir criston is the very definition of failing upwards
@cleogriffith99217 ай бұрын
Hey Duo. That was SeaSmoke flying overhead of Adam, he was grey not red. It was great seeing Carrexes this episode. I think of all the Dragons she’s my favorite so far. I was yelling when she wormed her way out of that tunnel 😂. Cole and Alacent foreplay was something 😬. I was holding my breath when the carriage with the prince got stuck and they was rocking it, I was expecting that head to roll 😂 (I don’t mean to lol bcuz it’s not funny a child is dead after all but it was funny). Welp we’re going to war bcuz dumb and dumber is now running the show and nobody can stop them. R.I.P. to All the innocent rat catchers who was hung bcuz Ageon is an idiot. And for as big as that dude was he sure folded like a cheap blanket. Another great episode and reaction see you in E3, wow already. I forgot the Twins, R.I.P. Twins 😢
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
Great comment! I have to get me a cheat sheet for dragons! I cannot tell you which dragon is which. Any info on how you remember which dragon is which? ❤Steve
@lmj2k7 ай бұрын
@@DuoReacts - *Caraxes* belongs to Daemon, and is called the Blood Wyrm. He’s distinguishable by his very long neck and bright red color. *Syrax* is more yellowish and is Rhaenyra’s dragon. *Seasmoke* is silvery-gray. He used to belong to Laenor before his “death.” Seasmoke is currently riderless, and was the one we saw flying around when Addam was digging for crabs and clams. *Vhagar* is the dragon that used to be Laena Velaryion’s before her complications of childbirth. She’s the ancient, giant dragon currently ridden by Aemond, and made Lucerys’s young dragon look like a kite compared to a 747. Her original rider was Visenya Targaryen, one of Aegon the Conqueror’s sisters/wives. *Vermithor* is an ancient dragon that was once ridden by King Jaehaerys I (who had preceded Viserys I as king). We’ve only gotten a glimpse of Vermithor at the end of season 1 in a cave on Dragonstone. Daemon was singing a song to him in High Valyrian. *Moondancer* is Baela’s dragon. We have only heard about Moondancer, but have not seen her yet. *Sunfyre* is Aegon II’s dragon. We’ve only gotten a brief glimpse of this dragon when Lucerys was learning how to command Arrax, and when they pranked Aemond with the pig when his dragon egg didn’t hatch. *Meleys* is the red female dragon ridden by Rhaenys. We’ve seen her a few times, notably bursting through the floor of Sept of Baelor (I think?) when Aegon II was being crowned king and not ending the war before it could start.
@cleogriffith99217 ай бұрын
@@DuoReacts I just know Vhagar bcuz she’s old, SeaSmoke bcuz he’s gray and Carrexes bcuz she looks like a worm
@CraigKostelecky7 ай бұрын
@@lmj2k Great summary of the dragons as the show has revealed so far. :)
@jjosifovic7 ай бұрын
Another very good episode. Y do I feel more people r more upset with criston in this episode over daemon who literally had a child killed? It makes no sense to me. Ive been saying this for the longest daemon and Otto r two side of the same coin. They are upset with their kings and queens because neither listen to them, they both want to be in control, and when they not in control they both over step. They only difference between them is that they use different tools to attack their enemies. Daemon uses the blade and otto has his tongue. They r both the poison of each of their teams. Anyone else notice the parallel with rhaenyra calling out daemon manipulation in this episode like how Alicent confront Otto with his manipulation in episode 9. Looking forward to ur future videos guys.
@bluegypsy717 ай бұрын
Daemon doesn’t pretend to be something he’s not. Criston gaslights, projects and has taken vows to be chaste and protect the royal family but is a psychopath who hides behind a veil of honor and morality.
@jjosifovic7 ай бұрын
@@bluegypsy71 while daemon doesnt pretend he does hide. He hides behind his dragon, his heritage, and he hides behind his brother to protect him from crimes he committed. So hypocrisy of a lifestyle trumps a man who kills a child? Thank u for the explanation but to me it sill makes no sense. Who should be more hated the guy who pre plans murder or the guy who has roid rage?
@jordan_sal4137 ай бұрын
Funny you should mention pre planned murder. Didn’t Cole do..just that?
@M4dH4tt3rsMus37 ай бұрын
He's not a hypocrite or pretending 🤷♀️
@jjosifovic7 ай бұрын
@@M4dH4tt3rsMus3 if ur talking about daemon then ur right he ain’t a hypocrite or a pretender but then again he is a child killer, who groomed his niece, n then assaulted her. N daemon likes to commit all his crimes in the shadows n likes to hide behind his family power whether it’s his brother or his dragon. Still doesn’t make sense y criston is more hated than daemon though.
@Caraxes_RoguePrince7 ай бұрын
There was no other options from daemon lol he told them Aegon and they cut out on his smirk…that’s not him saying go kill a child tbh tho it’s still obviously his fault
@sproductionsinc7 ай бұрын
The smirk says he would’ve been happy with anyone being killed.
@Caraxes_RoguePrince7 ай бұрын
@@sproductionsinc bruh no a smirk is not saying go kill the kid lmfao you not finna act like that specifically means yes go kill a kid that has nothing to do with the person you actually named. Also the actors of team back literally said that it was blood and cheese mistake not daemon.
@Caraxes_RoguePrince7 ай бұрын
@@sproductionsinc that is not saying go do that to a kid that has nothing to do with the guy you specifically named lol also the actors said it was B&C mistake not daemon so idk
@CraigKostelecky7 ай бұрын
@@Caraxes_RoguePrince I think the show made a clear choice to leave Daemon's orders ambiguous. That way the audience can decide on their own what was really said when we didn't explicitly see it. And I'm loving seeing the back and forth about it.
@Caraxes_RoguePrince7 ай бұрын
@@CraigKostelecky yea but he denies it multiple times lol even called it a mistake twice people just assuming he said it because of the books when the writer for the show himself said it was greens propaganda to make rhaenyra and daemon look as horrible as they could. People also leave out the fact that in the book it’s said that Aegon was perhaps the target but was guarded so they just for sure say daemon said the kid lol
@cristinademartini12847 ай бұрын
If all the episodes end with Alicent having sex with Cole, i shall scream. Pointless and boring. i was expecting more from this season: let's hope the following episode will improve.
@gamintrucker10167 ай бұрын
This show is so awesome! I read the book. GOT is back!
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
Again superb acting and the drama is so thick you couldn’t cut it with a knife. ❤Steve
@gamintrucker10167 ай бұрын
@DuoReacts If HBO creates a show about Egon the Conqueror, they need a special intro song.
@sylviastraughton43187 ай бұрын
Y'all old boy folded like an envelope when he saw those torture tools and can y'all help me out with something when did Alicent have another son in Old Town did I miss something
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
Otto said he is going back to Old town and her son may be useful to us. ❤Steve
@danielleeskelton7 ай бұрын
He hasn't appeared on the show at all so far. but this was the first mention of him.
@ak144597 ай бұрын
i caught the same thing steve did, it seemed someone was watching alicent from the shadows…and considering all the secret passages in the red keep, someone very well could be.
@ak144597 ай бұрын
especially since alicent now lives in rhaenyra’s old quarters which we know has a secret passage way in it.
@cleogriffith99217 ай бұрын
Could be Larys. I thought the same thing
@DuoReacts7 ай бұрын
I mean didn’t it feel during that scene someone was watching maybe it was a camera angle but I don’t think so. I think it is Larys! ❤Steve