Durston Iceline Poles | Ultralight Trekking Poles

[@JustinOutdoors]

Not being able to tow my car with them is a deal breaker. But I guuessss I can just use them as an awesome hiking pole. I think pole weight has been underestimated with how much it can affect the hiking experience so it's super cool to see these out on the market!

[@KaneDoesOutdoors]

But are they strong enough to hold a tailgate open...

[@terrystrait1443]

been in the sage cult going all the way back to the Mass days. will continue to support all things Durston. That said, I am firmly in the wrist strap camp. For me, a properly adjusted strap means my pole swings in my cadence with very little hand contact. Really cuts down on grip fatigue. The cradle around the wrist, for me, greatly assist with load disbursement on impact and thru the driving portion of pole contact and release with the surface. V2 with straps gets my money.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words and long time support. While I like the simplicity and lower weight of no straps and think many people would like that if they try it, I do recognize that people are firmly in the straps side of the debate so it is likely we add a strap version in the future.

[@AldenWeebsta]

@@durstongear I'm just one guy but I definitely +1 what this person said. Straps are invaluable IMO.

[@Mafic-ie3vi]

@@durstongear Great design Dan! Who would've thought in 2024 there was room to substantially reengineer a trekking pole! Likewise I will keenly wait for the strap version and will click the refresh button until it arrives :)

[@michelstronguin6974]

@@durstongear Andrew Skurka's point of view on straps and mud baskets is all you need to know to order these poles as they are, which I just did. Plus I believe that in case of a fall, being untethered is massively important. I will be adding rubber tips just so I can set up the X-Mid, since I don't want the poles to drive into the ground too much during high winds and distabelize the tent. I'll just have to find which rubber tips fit these poles. If I can't find any, i'll be keeping my hopes up that you sell rubber tips in the future. At any rate, you solved the key important problems with current trekking poles, thank you again Dan!

[@Kvothe3]

I don't have a strong preference but since I use my poles for the X-Mid, the thought of accidentally dropping them down a mountain side, I prefer the reduced anxiety of having wrist straps.

[@shannonliedtke5820]

I appreciate the ongoing innovation and thoughtful design.

[@durstongear]

Thanks!

[@lakorai2]

Dan did it again. X-Mid, Zflicks and now the Iceland poles. Kick ass looking product!

[@Pasequale100]

@durstongear when approximately comes the x-dome on the market? Second half of 2024 is too large 😀 And when can we know more about it before the release? I want and need a freestanding tent and i wonder if i should wait or not with buying one.

[@smellybearc7411]

You can just tell how much he likes making these stuff

[@durstongear]

I'm filming the video tomorrow for our new X-Dome tent. I'll hardly be able to sleep tonight :)

[@smellybearc7411]

@@durstongearI have a feeling those tents are gonna be super cool again. I’m imagining an X mid that’s self standing and a lot more storm worthy than they already are but doesn’t weigh much more if any. I’m also imagining the new tent being used as trekking pole tents. Heck, what if it’s just a trekking pole to freestanding conversion kit of the x mid tents? That would be crazy.

[@hikewithview]

Wow, I didn't think I'd ever buy a carbon fiber treeking pole again. Once again, Dan's thinking outside the box to totally change a piece of gear has me buying a carbon fiber trekking pole. I really like how the sections are much larger and more durable than traditional CF poles. Also, I love how it folds as small as my aluminum BD distance poles. It is like a simplified z fold style pole. Which I love since it's less things to break on an already reliable design. Which allowed you to cut weight and still improve strength. That is brilliant!

[@durstongear]

Thanks! Glad you're liking them :) - Dan

[@tylerhaney7389]

I love using your gear Dan. As many of your supports tell you, your innovative gear stands above the crowd. I’m with team straps and will be looking for V2 hopefully in the near future. Thanks for all the work from you and your team and the great customer support🤙🏻

[@PaulMessner]

These look superb Dan. It’s one of those items that you generally think a pole is a pole. But there’s clearly a lot more involved than that. 👍🏻

[@durstongear]

Thanks Paul!

[@phantomapprentice6749]

I'm impressed with the thinking that went into making these as efficient as possible.

[@nopares7220]

Always good news from you Dan! I always craved a pole with single adjustment but that could fold in three... what a wonderful product you made for us (and yourself

[@durstongear]

You're welcome :) - Dan

[@christopherdesantis9876]

Just ordered them ! As well as the x-mid1p. It's awesome to put my money towards a real person with a real company. They will go nicely with my OG DD40 pack. THANK YOU !

[@durstongear]

Thanks for your long time support! I hope you like them :) - Dan

[@Yodus123]

Much love from Hungary (bought 1st gen X-mid and X-mid pro)! Part of the handstrap family. Tried my poles without it ('cause Skurka said so), didn't like it. Appreciate you give that option (also like the low calorie QoL features like the pocket + lightstrap in the Dome. Waiting for the Dome 2). Will there be a cork grip version? Pretty please??? Where should I start a petition? It's a must for me. I have a Fizan, but the foam is mehhhhhh, so I returned to my heavier cork poles. Wouldn't mind paying triple for your quality version, if there would be a cork one. Will there be option to buy seperate piece/parts later?

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words! We will have the strap version in a few days. Most of the cork poles on the market that are light are not real cork but just cork colored foam. We could do that, but real cord is about 3x the weight. It would add about 40g to the pole (e.g. 135g to 175g) so it is hard for us to do that since the focus is ultralight. It could happen someday, but right now the weight is just too high for cork. If you want cork, you could buy a cork grip from another brand (e.g. Diorite gear sells separate cork grips) that would fit onto the same 16 mm shaft. We do have the parts available separately.

[@clayl9202]

Just got mine in the mail, and I love the design. Only thing I would add would be Komperdell baskets and bumper tips that fit, maybe sell them on your website? Outstanding product, I'm looking forward to using them this weekend! Thanks Dan!

[@durstongear]

Glad you're liking the poles. We have links to basket and tips under the FAQ on the Iceline page.

[@NoviceWildCamper]

I don't think I could use poles without a wrist strap. The majority of the downward pressure and stress on the hand is taken away with a strap. Obviously it would increase the weight to the same if not more than the others you tested but the overall user enjoyment and benefit would far 'outweigh' that extra weight

[@frostriver4547]

I agree. No strap is not going to work for me. I’ll keep my Lekis until then

[@ddff5242]

Agreed. Big miss on no straps

[@durstongear]

Regarding straps, I do think it is hard to fathom how light these poles are. When you try them, you'll see they are almost effortless to carry which leaves less need for a strap. My view is that straps are mostly a carryover element from other sports like Nordic skiing (where they are used for propulsion) and downhill skiing or running (where they are helpful so you don't drop a pole at high speed). These are instances where they are useful while hiking, but most backpackers are gripping the handle and not dominantly using the strap, even if they are wearing them. As the pole gets lighter, they get easier and easier to carry so there is less need for straps. That is why many backpackers don't use the straps and some ultralight poles omit the straps. Not having straps saves weight and also makes it easier to release the poles if you do get one stuck so it doesn't break. I recognize that some people like them and if people really want straps we can add them in a v2, but I do think it is hard to fathom how light these poles are and how that reduces the benefit of a strap.

[@NoviceWildCamper]

@durstongear I see what you're saying there but it's not so much the weight of the poles that you need the straps for but the downward pressure when hiking. This downward pressure takes the stress out of your knees going both up and down hills, fine if your walking on a flat but then I don't see the need for poles walking on a flat. Without the straps you are relying solely on grip strength to offset this pressure and even using a strap incorrectly, can cause strain on the hand and wrists. Personally I think you should at least offer the option for with ot without straps and that way it pleases both parties as no doubt some will be pro either model. Either way, the poles look good and the design is great. 👍

[@chadbrow]

I want these when they haves wrist straps. In my opinion, the weight of the poles have little to do with the need for straps. I use the straps to support MY weight. I barely need to grip the poles to help with climbing or descending.

[@craigerskine1280]

They look great, but no strap?

[@zachweinberg8318]

Was thinking the same thing.

[@durstongear]

Glad you're liking them. Regarding straps, our view is that this is mostly a carryover element from other sports like Nordic skiing (where they are used for propulsion) and downhill skiing or running (where they are helpful so you don't drop a pole at high speed). These are instances where they are useful while hiking, but most people aren't really using them even if they are wearing them. As the pole gets lighter, they get easier and easier to carry so there is less need for straps. That is why many backpackers don't use the straps and some ultralight poles omit the straps. Not having straps saves weight and also makes it easier to release the poles if you do get one stuck so it doesn't break. I recognize that some people like them and if people really want straps we can add them in a v2, but I do think it is hard to fathom how light these poles are. When you try them, you'll see they are almost effortless to carry which leaves little need for a strap.

[@zachweinberg8318]

@@durstongearI could very well be doing it wrong but I use the straps on my Fizans for extra leverage on inclines. I’m gonna try going without the straps on my hike Sunday though and see how it goes. But maybe for V2 just make a slot in the handle and sell the straps as add-ons.

[@craigerskine1280]

​@durstongear I understand some people don't use straps, I just don't understand why 😂 personally I could almost go without the handle on flat and uphills. I don't grip the handle much at all, all the propulsion and support comes from the strap for me, weight taken by the wrist instead of relying on dripping poles. The strap also serves as a place to hang my food bag so mice can't get to it in the tent.

[@paulberrington4659]

@@durstongear The strap wrapped around the thumb can make a difference when ascending...perhaps they are not used all day while hiking but very welcome when you need them...older hiker.

[@jjmcwill2007]

I know you were shooting for lightest poles on the market, but some of us really like having wrist straps. And snow baskets!

[@br5339]

Ya, wrist straps are critical to reducing fatigue. Well worth any extra weight.

[@rickwebermusic]

@@br5339 Not to mention they help keep you from losing your expensive poles if you happen to fall during a water crossing. Wrist straps are a must. At least include some that can be added or removed by the user.

[@durstongear]

Snow baskets can be easily added. I like no straps and think others would to if they tried it - especially with a pole this light - but I do recognize lots of people really want straps so it is likely we add a version like that in the future.

[@WingwingHello]

​@@durstongearI recognize and appreciate your no-straps ways. If people don't like it they can add them.

[@wolfeadventures]

100%

[@Jc21112]

Dan did it again! Can't wait to see how they do in the field.

[@durstongear]

:) Thanks

[@TeslaPrince]

Love this, I literally just bought some aluminum cascade mountain poles because I broke the last 2 carbon fiber sets, I will likely try your poles next to see how much the weight savings and strength changes my hiking, great job Dan!

[@durstongear]

Thanks!

[@janmariolle]

So many wonderful ideas and well crafted products coming from Durston! ❤

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words! - Dan

[@LynxOutdoors686]

I really like the continued innovation and the logical improvements you put into your products. Like others have mentioned, wrist straps for me are important and would be worth the increase in weight.

[@dannydinthemountains]

To start I own a standard x-mid and a kakwa 40 and I take them out almost every week. they are both my absolute favorite pieces of gear. Saying this I’m very particular with my trekking poles because I use them all the way through low class three terrain. I wish Mr Dan would make a model less focused on weight but rather functionality. I like the disconnecting idea but I’m not a huge fan of anything else. I like replaceable tips, cork handles, and the most important part to me is the straps. I actually have a video on my channel of how I use them. I feel like Dan has the kind of mind that could reimagine the trekking pole strap and make it more functional than ever. Although I like the creative ways used to save weight here like the glue and the coating. I’m all into that kind of stuff. I just don’t like reduced functionality. That’s why I think the X-mid the greatest piece of hiking gear ever. Tons of functionality and not overly focused on weight even though it’s still considered

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind word and feedback. We are going to add a strap version for the next batch. The tips can be replaced because normal replacement tips will still fit on if you break the original. It's actually easier here because you don't have old tips to remove - the replacements can slide right on.

[@julianpbc1]

Is there a button release for the bottom section? It's not clear from the video, but watching 1:41 carefully, it looks like there probably is. That would make a big difference! My main concern would be disconnecting the lower section if wedged between rocks in talus or caught in thick brush, snow, or mud.

[@durstongear]

Yes there is a flush button, so they are held securely and won't accidentally release.

[@YvesEntually-lh2hi]

I am so excited about these - excellent work Dan! I personally hate straps and love this design direction. Keep making what you love! It’s too bad so many people approach your gear with an entitled attitude as if they’ve been wronged when a design isn’t exactly how they want it.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words! It's appreciated. - Dan

[@devincunningham9717]

would have been a purchase if only it had wrist straps! love to see all the engineering, attention to detail, and transparency as always. but will hold off for a v2 with those straps :)

[@sandrawarner2551]

They look beautiful!!! will the black material rub off on your hands after good use?. I finally switched back to cork because of that.

[@durstongear]

Thanks. The handle is EVA foam. Most "cork" handles are actually EVA foam too that is just dyed to look like cork. It does slowly wear down over time, so it is possible to have small amounts of black dust, but it is the same as almost all other trekking poles.

[@guitarhiker4449]

I like these! You have solved alot of reasons why i don't own trekking poles. I would give these a go. Would be nice to see a cork grip as an option down the road but still very nice! Hike on!!

[@rpenm]

Looks great, though I also prefer wrist straps. Any provision for replacement parts? Grips and tips tend to wear pretty fast on poles, I find. And of course, some folks will inevitably break their poles.

[@durstongear]

Yeah we'll have parts. Eventually they'll be on the website but for now people can email us.

[@KandCoutdoors]

Like the concept of one adjuster

[@durstongear]

Thanks!

[@jeffschroeder886]

Wow, Dan! I'm pumped on these. Will definitely be looking to pick up a pair.

[@durstongear]

Thanks Jeff! Get on the GDT!

[@jeffschroeder886]

@@durstongear Bro, I miss the GDT so much. We couldn't make it happen this summer, but I just have section B remaining. There are so many parts of the GDT I want to re-explore at a slower pace in the future. Plus that new section up north. So encouraged to see how well DG is doing - well done.

[@cameron7889]

Is the bottom part of the pole going to pop out when using in sticky, thick mud? I can’t tell how much force is needed to pull apart at the quick disconnect.

[@durstongear]

No it is very secure. Won't happen.

[@backpackingcapebreton]

So smart! Looks fantastic. I’m in.

[@durstongear]

Thanks!

[@billb5732]

Another excellent design. Please let us know when you add a mounting point for us to attach our own straps.

[@durstongear]

Stay tuned for batch two in a few months.

[@MaxRoving]

Interesting, the design would make it possible to create a tripod by connecting the two lower parts with something like a voile strap and then sticking the 3 sticks in a 3D printed connector with the camera screw. Products like this exist but so far a solo trekker would obviously need to carry a third pole/stick. Not sure if there would be enough demand for you to create something, but I would love to see it. Ultralight tripods with a similar height weigh over 500 grams, this would easily be below that while you also get to have trekking poles. Or you could even get a full height tripod by using the trekking poles plus a Z Flick pole.

[@durstongear]

That would be awesome. Probably not a big market, but would be a great product.

[@simonbeliveau6852]

Camera monopods are legal as carry-on in airplanes. I lost my pole at the baggage scanner at Denver airport.. I would still have it if there had been some kind of camera screw at the top

[@paulkhanna1]

These poles look fantastic, and the price is comparable to my black diamond alpine carbon cork poles. The lack of a wrist strap is not a deal breaker but will be interesting to see how it feels after a long day of hiking. I can't believe how light they are!

[@Olan...]

Great innovation Dan. What type of warranty do you offer ? The reason i ask is because with UK import duties they are a bit on the expensive side and my initial concerns would be long term durability because of the clip in lower section, i fear it would loosen over time. Also on some of the Leki pole handles you can unclip the hand loops and i was thinking that with their system you have added weight because of the mechanism that they use so maybe on yours you could drill a hole and thread a loop through it which then goes over the top and acting like a type of larks footing leaving enough room to get a gloved or mittened hand through an adjustable ultra lightweight material loop because i am in my 60s and i mostly use walking poles to aid my descents especially during wet and icy conditions, plus descending short wet grass which boosts my confidence because when i fall on my ass these days i feel the shock through my whole body . When i was younger it hardly registered if i fell but i am thinking from your point of view in terms of selling because older people rely on poles more than younger and some older people have a tough time bending down to pick up a dropped pole. If you need an old fart to do a review give me some discount and i am in 😜. If you didn't want to drill a hole which could potentially compromise the structural integrity you could opt for a small section of nearled rougher surface which would add friction for a suitable material to use as a lightweight hand loop I currently use the BD fly ultra that you are comparing here and i was very happy with them apart from the handles are too thin for my big hands and it took me a while to get used to them and now you have put me off by displaying the amount of flex compared to your new babies so thanks a lot 🤣

[@durstongear]

We didn't actually decide on a warranty period for these, but it would be like our tents where it is 2 years against defects. It wouldn't be warrantied against simply breaking the pole, but we'll have low cost replacement sections. The lower section uses mostly parts that have been used for several years in other Komperdell products, so they are well proven. We've made some changes to adapt them here, but the core mechanism is well refined. Cheers, Dan

[@Olan...]

@@durstongear Good to know, cheers Dan

[@kennyhamilton2138]

They look great and I have purchased a set - admittedly without realising they had no straps - So while a bit disappointed with that (as much with my own lack of attention when purchasing) I am looking forward to using them and seeing if I am OK with no straps. Not fully convinced on that, but trust the judgement of Dan and happy to give it a go!

[@durstongear]

Thanks for trying them out. They're pretty cool!

[@trickofthetrail]

I love the look of the poles and I much prefer having only one adjuster. The main thing I would be concerned about, is losing one or more parts of the poles when they are broken down. Are you able to use these with standard backpack trekking pole attachments when not in use?

[@durstongear]

They are intended as a 'backpacking' pole where you are normally going to be using them, or if you aren't then you can pack them away for a few hours on the side of your pack. It's not a like a running pole where you might pull them out and put them away every few minutes. So it is true they wouldn't work as well in a running pole type storage system. I would just slide them shorter and keep the tip connected, or if you are putting them away for a while then you can pop the tips off and maybe put them in the stuff sack if you want.

[@tc227]

It's great to see some new ideas on trekking pole design. I think this is very cool! One trivia nitpick though: the Ruta Locura Yana poles are 106g/119g (no strap/with strap) a piece. They don't collapse anywhere as short as the Iceline but they are adjustable (two sections). Technically AFAIK the Yana is the lightest adjustable trekking pole.

[@durstongear]

Yeah you're right. I thought those poles were discontinued when I recorded the video because they were unavailable for so long, but yes they still exist and are lighter. That's why I changed the text on the screen to say the 'lightest 3 piece poles'.

[@wangmir]

Awesome in both functional and good looking. But one question. How can I adjust wrist band in this pole? Because I cannot see any wrist band from here.

[@durstongear]

There's are not straps available. When a pole is this light it is almost effortless to carry so we think it is better without a strap.

[@wangmir]

@@durstongear I think other people already mentioned about that, but yeah. I need strap not because of weight of the pole, but because of my weight. when using strap, I don't need to spend grip strength, I can rely on my wrist for my weight. So, if we have strap, then I think it will be much more easy to use.

[@wangmir]

@@durstongear But, ok. Let me try ur suggestion. Because, I was about to buy x-mid solid, and showing this..? evil...

[@loganphillips6579]

Would love to see a cork grip version, I know it’s heavier than the foam but I just prefer the way it feels on my hands. Otherwise it’s an amazing design.

[@durstongear]

A lot of cork grips are really coloured EVA foam (same stuff). Real cork is cool but 3-4x the weight so just not viable for an ultralight pole

[@ballinshogunrk]

As someone who never uses trekking poles this is the first pole that has been somewhat compelling to me.. I could see keeping them stowed most of the time and breaking them out for just really steep sections and tricky stream crossings. Then of, course to use with tent/tarp setup or whatever at camp. No cork is a plus for my use case but I am also curious about the decision to omit a strap. Seems useful to be able to use your hands in a pinch or to relieve some pressure from your grip, no?

[@durstongear]

Glad you're liking the poles. Regarding straps, I do think it is hard to fathom how light these poles are. When you try them, you'll see they are almost effortless to carry which leaves less need for a strap. That is why many backpackers don't use the straps and some ultralight poles omit the straps. Not having straps saves weight and also makes it easier to release the poles if you do get one stuck so it doesn't break. I recognize that some people like them and if people really want straps we can add them in a v2, but I do think it is hard to fathom how light these poles are and how that reduces the benefit of a strap.

[@brandonwalsh1528]

Great design Dan! I wish these had come out before I purchased my locus gear poles! IMO going strapless is superior and safer. I love Eva grips too.

[@durstongear]

Thanks! Yeah strapless :)

[@Pengie780132]

Are you all going to come out with a cork handle version?

[@durstongear]

We could do a cork handle, but cord is quite a bit heavier. That is why most lightweight poles with a “cork” handle are actually not work. They are the same EVA foam that is printed to look like cork. For example, handles that look like cork from Fizan, Leki, Gossamer Gear etc are often a similar EVA foam.

[@Pengie780132]

@@durstongear Thanks for the info! Additionally have you all also thought about integrating a 1/4-20 screw by the handle or the tip so that the pole can double as a camera monopod?

[@landonsawaya]

I backpack ~100 days a year, and I always remove my wrist straps from any pole because I like to change grip positions and I find straps hazardous. I particularly like the top (palm) grip and find this better than any strap. I also find comstant frustration in having to set both the top and bottom flicklock. I am not a Durston diehard, and I was excited about the strength to weight ratio, but was totally unprepared for these unique design features that make the Iceline my dream pole.

[@durstongear]

Thanks for the kind words. I hope the work well for you :) - Dan

[@hikebeyond]

That looks like some solid trekking poles! I'll be getting myself a pair soon!

[@durstongear]

Thanks!

[@BackcountryPilgrim]

Been waiting to hear about these - they look great!

[@johncramer9564]

You did a great job on these. Would go well with a Durston Trekking pole tent.

[@durstongear]

Thanks John.

[@the_average_backpacker]

How does the quick connect portion stay locked in? I say this because I'm notorious for stepping on my baskets from time to time, and I totally see me doing this and ripping the bottom part off. 😂

[@durstongear]

The quick connect is in there very securely. It is a positive metal connection and don't going to come out.

[@the_average_backpacker]

@durstongear thanks - I'm a little ignorant on what that means. Is it just friction holding it in there?

[@hikingmovie]

They look great! Now I am going to have to buy new poles. I take off straps anyway.

[@durstongear]

Awesome

[@JeffreyRyanRose]

Hello Dan! I just received your new trekking poles and they are unbelievable- I recommend everyone get them! One question, do you have any ideas or suggestions about adding/improvising something that acts like straps for the handles? (I may not use straps, but just thinking about ideas)

[@durstongear]

Glad you're loving them! If you do want straps, any grips intended for 18mm shafts will work. You can remove the original grips by boiling them off, and then put new grips with straps on. Diorite has some nice options.

[@trooperwolfie]

Damn....I just ordered 2 pairs of nature hike z poles for myself Ans my daughter for the Pennine way at the end of June....and now you drop these bad boys...Dan...your a git 😜🤣 just pulling ya leg mate 😘

[@classickid324]

Will you be making a video about the x-dome tents before they release to the public? I’m excited to see it

[@durstongear]

We have filmed an X-Dome 1+ video. It will be released on October 8 as part of the launch. - Dan

[@classickid324]

@@durstongear Thank you for the response Dan!

[@1DrBar]

Sheer genius and nicely done. My one question is if there are straps that are able to be added. I count a lot on straps when I walk.

[@durstongear]

A strap option is in the works for the next batch (fall 2024).

[@RC-qf3mp]

Dan, could you show what these look like in the most collapsed position when upright on a backpack? That’s where they’d be most of the time for me, which is why i want ultralight poles. I only use them when i really need them, and for my tarp/tent.

[@durstongear]

We have some good photos of this on our website.

[@hologos_]

Hello Dan, is a longer version in the works or is this the only version we get for foreseeable future? I need the poles at least 135cm long. :

[@durstongear]

This is the only version for 2024. In the future we could add a longer version but it would be at least 2025.

[@hologos_]

@@durstongear Thank you, hope there is a demand for longer poles. 🙂

[@Greghikes1]

GG LT5's with the wrist strap are only 5g heavier, so I'm guessing they are still the lighter when compared like for like? BUT I can definitely see the iceline being stronger. I wonder if the press button joiner will creak or flex & how it'll wear.. All in all the a classic Durston advancement in tech & materials used, well done Dan, It's fantastic that you are so actively pushing the industry further! ❤

[@durstongear]

Thanks! Yeah if you add straps here the weight is about the same but these are stronger and have external adjustment instead of twist lock. The lower joint had a lot of development so we expect it'll work well. We did quite a bit of work to avoid rattle/creaking.

[@jeremyschmitz5954]

These are amazing. I had to get ultimate direction fixed poles for the weight I want, and functional straps. The only wishes I have for these Durston poles is cork grips and wrist straps! I’d take a little weight penalty if you ever plan to make a variation, they will be perfect.

[@durstongear]

Cork is pretty heavy. For example, Diorite gear has the same grips in cork and foam, and the cord is 4x the weight. So we don't have plans for cork, but we are adding a strap version for the next batch.

[@jungleperry]

ahhh man, you mean I can't pole vault with these? :) Dan, these are awesome, I thought my kit was complete but now I see I have to buy one more thing :) these!

[@headinthemountains1666]

Like your design Dan. I would guess you have field tested the poles........just wondering how strong that magnet connect portion is???? ie will it come out /disconnect when your pole is in sticky, thick mud on the trail? Keep the innovotions coming Dan!

[@durstongear]

It's not a magnet, it's two aluminum parts that click together and then a flush mounted button on the side to release.

[@headinthemountains1666]

@@durstongear Thanks for the reply. Sorry I am old fashion and I am used to pole straps so on Version 2 I vote for straps....will pay the weight price. Thanks for listening!

[@tightlines9873]

Some great innovation here. I do love me some real cork handles, though.

[@WingwingHello]

These look awesome! Might have to add them to my quiver of Durston gear! I'm curious about the quick connect mechanism. Can it be pulled off if my basket gets stuck in mud or snow?

[@durstongear]

The bottom is probably attached better than another pole because it's not just held by friction, but actually has metal parts that lock into place. Then it's released with a button.

[@jacquesmerel1]

Was about to buy, but no strap is a deal breaker. The straps isn't here to prevent from loosing the pole, but it's here to push hard on the pole without gripping too tight. Look how trail runners use them

[@durstongear]

Trail running is quite a bit higher exertion, so straps have a larger role compared to walking where the forces are lower and many people find it comfortable to grab the grip without the aid of a strap. But we totally recognize this is just a preference and lots of people want straps. We aren't dogmatic about not having straps. You'll notice there is nothing in this video or our website that argues for not using straps. We are looking forward to expanding our pole lineup for the next batch (in the fall) where we will have a strap option.

[@benhauber1979]

Ah man. I love the design! But no straps is a deal breaker for me. I need to be able to share the work between my hands and wrists. Having to maintain grip all day long does not sound like a good time.

[@ddff5242]

Agreed!

[@Uncle_Fred]

Don't be afraid to DIY your gear. If you want the lightest wrist strap configuration purchase some UHMWPE fabric. It's the same material used in Durston's Pro tent models. I'm sure Durston will update these poles to at least support attaching a strap. If not, you can always drill a hole.

[@durstongear]

It's hard to fathom how light these poles are. If you try them, you'll see they're almost effortless to carry compared to a traditional trekking pole.

[@MrRadNomad]

@@durstongearthe straps don’t help you carry the poles, they help you support the weight of yourself without using your grip strength…especially while climbing.

[@Orange_Tang]

I'm kinda late to the party on this one but it seems like everyone is talking about the straps. I get it, but that's not really what I was thinking about. Just curious if you considered a cork handle version or did any testing on what the weight difference would be with cork VS the foam they currently come with? I would love a cork and strap option.

[@durstongear]

A strap option is in the works for the next batch (fall 2024). Cork could happen at some point, but it's quite a bit heavier. Most lightweight poles with 'cork' are really just the same EVA foam that is dyed to look like cork. Real cork could happen but not in the next year.

[@ShaneNull]

Ship it! Ordered these, I’ve been using 3.7oz fixed poles I made with graphite golf club shafts they are like feathers but I want adjustable

[@durstongear]

Nice! Thanks for giving these a try! We got a lot of them shipped today. - Dan

[@VelcorHF]

People will be holding out for the cork handle version. I know I love cork. Please Dan, cork these and give us a new vintage of hiking sticks.

[@durstongear]

We could do a cork handle, but cork is quite a bit heavier. That is why most lightweight poles with a “cork” handle are actually not cork. They are the same EVA foam that is printed to look like cork. For example, handles that look like cork from Fizan, Leki, Gossamer Gear etc are often a similar EVA foam.

[@derekschinke2512]

@@durstongear "That is why most lightweight poles with a “cork” handle are actually not cork." which is exactly why it would be awesome to have an ultralight pole made with cork!

[@stigcc]

@@derekschinke2512Cork is heavy, so it would be impossible to be UL

[@bimazivanovic4784]

Had a similar idea,or should i say question of whether the lower adjuster was really needed or not. So cool to se someone actually do it. What I'm a bit worried or skeptical about is that the lower part is not attached when stowing on a backpack and in general i would be worried about losing. It falling of of the backpack or something like that. Also, consider it's a magnet,would the poles disassemble if stuck for a moment while hiking, let's say in a tree root on an accident or some similar scenario,which is in general highly unlikely but still might happen. I guess that wouldn't be that bad and probably better than the whole pole being damaged.

[@durstongear]

The bottom section solidly clips into place with aluminum parts. It's not held by magnets. It's probably harder to pull out than a normal trekking pole section.

[@TheZMDX]

Dyneema stuff sack seems to be overkill... is there an option to buy those without it?

[@tarafrey-durston2606]

The DCF stuff sack was constructed with left over material from our DCF floors from the Pro tents. So we have not increased the price of the poles to reflect this, since it was scrap material, so they are essentially a freebie. We do not have a way to purchase it without the sack.

[@philmartz]

I very much appreciate the innovation. Great forward thinking. However, the poles are missing a key functional piece: serious trekking poles must have a wrist strap. It's how you get leverage to push off and how you reduce grip fatigue. I'll be looking for straps in an upcoming release.

[@durstongear]

Thanks Phil. Certainly lots of people like straps, so we are going to make that an option on the next batch. - Dan

[@drewhiking]

Curious about the quick release mechanism. What keeps it from pulling out when getting "caught"?

[@durstongear]

There are two aluminum parts that clip together and then a flush mounted button to release.

[@drewhiking]

@@durstongear thanks!

[@jmorrison5206]

Was shopping for super light poles, and got the notice in my email… Ordered! Make a strap add-on? :)

[@durstongear]

Nice! You can add different grips if you want a strap. Most grips will fit.

[@expatadventureturkey9324]

First off, great development and product design win! Other note any chance of a corkscrew handle, for some reason I gravitate towards this type of handle that feels more comfortable on hot humid hikes. Just a thought, and with that said I’ll still end up giving these a try after all it looks better with my X mid 1 pro, haha smile 😊 have a great weekend everyone 🤙🏽

[@durstongear]

Glad you're liking them. Do you have an example of a 'corkscrew' grip?

[@expatadventureturkey9324]

@@durstongear Hello Dan, thanks for the response. Currently using the Black Diamond Alpine Ergo Cork, and Gossamagear LT 5 I have a few poles and often gravitate back to these for comfort and grip in comparison to foam handles. I was mentioning this as just a thought for possible update in the future, if it’s even a thing with other hikers. Again thanks for all you do for our community, your tent is awesome and I’ll be using it on the PCT for 2025 if everything works out. And I’m sure your new poles will be accompanying me on the through hike, the Durston combo 🤙🏽 please take my recommendation with a grain of salt, I’m definitely not an expert or someone who has years of experience with poles. Have a great weekend everyone!

[@expatadventureturkey9324]

Up date, ordered the Iceline Poles today, can’t wait putting kit together for PCT 2025. X mid pro 1 ✅ Trekking Pole ✅ thanks for everything you do for our community.

[@durstongear]

@@expatadventureturkey9324 Awesome! Have an epic hike! PCT is great.

[@gzfelix]

Hey thank you Dan! This looks like an awesome pair of poles for back country skiing. 🙂 do they accept snow baskets (or do you plan to sell them as well?)

[@durstongear]

Yes. You can add Komperdell brand snow baskets, which are widely available.

[@mattporter6624]

I would tend to use these poles towards the max length, is the confidence in the strength still there if you have to take it to the maximum length?

[@durstongear]

The poles still have a good amount of overlap when fully extended, and the adjuster is at the top connection which experiences less torque, so I don't foresee any strength issues when fully extended.

[@skrimosinbaldur6055]

Hey Dan, just recently I bought the X-Mid 1 Solid and I really like it a lot. My only fear is that i break my poles while on a multi-day hike and then have no tent. Currently I‘m using the flimsy Fizan Compact 3. Your new poles look quite a bit more sturdy, which I like! I know this might not fit your brand, but what do you think about a “solid” variant of the Iceline Poles which is even stronger (and maybe even with straps :D)? Apart from flimsiness, my other issue with the Compact 3’s is that the can get stuck, especially if they weren’t completely dry when I closed them. I suppose that is not an issue here since the Iceline’s are carbon?

[@durstongear]

Yeah the Fizan's will corrode a bit and get hard to open if you store them wet. If you break them, usually you can still assemble something. If not, you can find a stick or borrow a pole. A 'solid' version of these poles could happen but not in the next year. We'll listen to feedback and if it seems like there's enough interest we may do it, but everything takes a while.

[@zachweinberg8318]

How many grams is it, Dan? 😂 Seriously though great work. Love the clever design ideas you bring the market to make our treks just that little bit better. Now if you can just make a trampoline back for the Kakwa…

[@grantfator]

Can you add wrist straps? Do they come with wrist straps?

[@durstongear]

Our first version here is a simpler non-strap version but we'll have a strap version in the next batch.

[@Dmorris556]

Look good. May have to modify them with cork grips.

[@thefig8832]

are they just as strong at 127cm maxed out? hope it's long enough for me, also straps?

[@durstongear]

The poles still have a good amount of overlap when fully extended, and the adjuster is at the top connection which experiences less torque, so I don't foresee any strength issues when fully extended. For straps, when a pole is this light it is almost effortless to carry already.

[@Ssshhh92100]

Hey Dan, really cool design! Wanna know when the poles is not in used there is four separate parts? Or can the smaller poles go into the larger poles? Thanks!

[@durstongear]

The upper two sections telescope together, so you can make it shorter, or disconnect the tips for the shortest packed size.

[@germanturkey]

Neat product! I would like to see straps and cork in a version 2.

[@tarafrey-durston2606]

straps could happen, but cork is unlikely, as it weighs almost 3 times as much as the foam.

[@PeteTabor]

Threaded insert for optional straps pleeeeez

[@durstongear]

There will be optional straps on batch 2 in a couple of weeks.

[@eddieknight2202]

Now I see these will be returning my Zflicks for these

[@stigcc]

Using lighter paint, did I hear that right? My current poles are 193 grams but I do not like the screw tightener, it gets stuck and some times it does not fix and I have to fiddle with it to tighten it. Will replace it with this.

[@durstongear]

Awesome. Glad you're liking them :)

[@Ratatrail]

Love the music, those trekking poles look fantastic…is the locking system made of metal or plastic?

[@durstongear]

It's aluminum

[@Ratatrail]

@@durstongear Great to hear that! I’ll be buying one pair when my old trekking poles are done, thanks for creating/engineering new ultralight gear!

[@jamesking4225]

When will a cork handle version come out?

[@durstongear]

We could do a cork handle, but cork is quite a bit heavier. That is why most lightweight poles with a “cork” handle are actually not cork. They are the same EVA foam that is printed to look like cork. For example, handles that look like cork from Fizan, Leki, Gossamer Gear etc are often a similar EVA foam.

[@OutdoorPrep]

Great to see innovation is still happening 🎉 that being said, I don’t see a use for a trekking pole without straps as it’s very inefficient. Personal preference can be debated but not psychics :)

[@durstongear]

Psychics are pretty debatable too, but physics are tougher to argue with :) Straps on poles is a big debate, as certainly they can be useful but also there are arguments that with the lower propulsion forces while hiking (vs nordic skiing) they are less needed, and some people like myself prefer no straps for other reasons (e.g. no chafing, easier to release if they get snagged). However, we recognize people have different preferences and we will be adding a strap version for the next batch (late 2024).

[@MeowHikes]

Are the pole tips unreplaceable when it comes to wear? would you just have to buy a lower section? will you offer that and what would the cost be? thanks

[@durstongear]

We'll have lower sections for a low cost (maybe $20 per) but also you can easily add on replacement tips. They slide over the existing tip, so nothing to remove. Actually easier than other poles.

[@MeowHikes]

@@durstongear awesome, thanks for the response

[@boredandagitated]

Having a sturdier pole is great since we tend to use em with shelters too. A broken “tent pole” really sucks

[@jheronimusbosch999]

That’s a nice pole, but what is the range?

[@durstongear]

It goes from 95 - 127 cm. Should work for almost everyone.

[@tomnoyb8301]

Love Cork (fake-cork is even better), hate straps. Straps are for those who like broken poles - then they complain endlessly about carbon-pole fragility. GG used to sell fake-cork handles, but not anymore. Is there any chance you'll sell cork handle replacements?

[@durstongear]

The fake cork handles are usually just EVA foam that is styled to look like cork, which is the same foam we're using here. For example, both our handles and GG's handles are actually EVA foam. I don't plan to add a true cork version but we could style the EVA foam to look more like cork, as they do.

[@tomnoyb8301]

​@@durstongear - Having used many, they are not the same. EVA comes in many densities, weights and absorption specs. Black-EVA handles are more of a foam on every handle (in stores) and has more sponginess than GG-style fake-cork. Black-EVA therefore rubs off the handle and onto hands way more than fake-cork. But maybe you've discovered the exception? Black-EVA absorbs more water/sweat than fake-cork. Black also absorbs way more sun than fake-cork. Black cars are as much as 40° hotter than white cars simply due to color. That almost certainly translates into more EVA-degrading UV absorption. There's also Black-rubber, which absorbs no water and immediately becomes slick/slippery when wet and that material is also unsuitable for handles. Fake-cork (EVA-cork) is better than real cork, since real-cork tends to eventually become brittle from salt/sweat.

[@keiblercookiemonster3188]

How secure is the lower connection? Concerned with loosing the lower piece during river crossings and Vermud.

[@durstongear]

The bottom is not going to come disconnected. It's probably attached better than another pole because it's not just held by friction, but actually has metal parts that lock into place. Then it's released with a button.

[@keiblercookiemonster3188]

Cool, thanks for responding!

[@lhoward62]

When the inevitable occurs, can the standard replacement tips be used, or will we need to order spares from DG directly?

[@mikeb7117]

The tips are non-replaceable, you will need order a 'tip section' from Durston.

[@durstongear]

We'll have replacement tips for a low cost.

[@Saxement]

Looks awesome. Although I do foresee a scenario in which I get the bottem part of my pole stuck in some snow or mud and accidentally disconnect it from the top.

[@durstongear]

The bottom is not going to come disconnected. It's probably attached better than another pole because it's not just held by friction, but actually has metal parts that lock into place. Then it's released with a button.

[@ManivanAdventures]

I want these so bad, but just can’t pull the trigger with no straps. Any idea when a version with straps might be released?

[@durstongear]

About 3 months.

[@ManivanAdventures]

@@durstongear Awesome, looking forward to it! Thanks, Dan!

[@kriskirby1468]

Hey Dan these poles look great! I do have one question, though about your demonstration of flexibility. I am probably misunderstanding… but wouldn’t a pole that flexes more under stress actually be less likely to shatter/break? In my mind, it would make sense that a material that’s more flexible and bendable is less likely to shatter under pressure then a more rigid material, right?

[@tarafrey-durston2606]

We did a break test for the Iceline compared to other poles near this weight (but a little heavier actually) and the Iceline had favourable results. Our website has a photo of the pole holding 40 pounds whereas comparable poles that we tested broke below that. We do not feel it is necessary to post the specific results, as we think there are a lot of great products on the market that are awesome at their intended use, and the breaking point is only one facet.

[@durstongear]

As T mentioned, we did break tests for these poles in comparison to competitors and also got higher results. I didn't want to show it in the video as it seems a bit too hostile towards other poles to be actually breaking them in our video, but ours do break a higher load than comparable ultralight poles.

[@kriskirby1468]

@@durstongear Thanks for the response! sounds like a super respectful decision by the durston team, seems like too many companies love opportunities to hate on other brands, love the fact that you guys chose to do the opposite 👍

[@nathandolenc554]

Is there a version with straps?

[@durstongear]

I think most people will be happy without straps and it makes the poles simpler and lighter, but we do recognize a lot of people are firm strap users so it's likely we add a strap version in the future.

[@millerhoo]

Uuugghhh immediately purchased it.

[@durstongear]

Nice!

[@christopherdesantis9876]

Awesome !!!

[@AndrewDasilvaPLT]

Bro, I'm still using my Massdrop Fizan poles from ages ago. You know I love 'ya though!

[@durstongear]

Awesome. They're good poles and great price.