Duskmourn Precons: Worst to Best

We're going over EVERY Duskmourn Commander precon, giving you everything you need to know about these four creepy decks!
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[@colinbrown74]

“The deck has no payoff.” I guess killing players ain’t good enough anymore these days.

[@nicknormousreports3378]

Not to mention being a major hindrance to blue control / wheels decks.

[@boompewpewboom]

Valgavoth: The punish is the payoff. Best payoff is the pain and tears of your enemies lol

[@crocholiday]

truth! lol

[@ryanbollinger1759]

Endless Punishment is the best deck of the four, I’m not sure what you guys are saying when you say it’s got no payoff. Opponents are slowly dying and taking damage whenever they take game actions and your commander will be huge by the time it gets to your turn, it’s evasive and you can pretty easily get people with commander damage. Not to mention, it consistently draws you cards in Rakdos colors.

[@strikingfreedom]

I think it comes down to the main commander of the deck being a really heavily nerfed Ob nix, whereob nix is huge pay off for building your deck around lingers , Valgavoth just dose t pay you off enough for the group slug stuff you are doing.

[@PALIGames]

Right? Mothman was one people devalued locally at my lgs until they started getting killed with commander damage. This is basically rakdos mothman😅

[@salem326]

​@@strikingfreedom This is it right here. A commenter below me is trying to compare the Mothman deck to the Rakdos deck, but they are totally different. Valvagoth only triggers once per turn, and doesn't have much in the way of payoffs. Mothman enables simultaneously: milling your opponents out, draining your opponents life, dropping incredible amounts of counters on your creatures to go wide, dropping counters on itself to go for commander damage kills as a flyer, and self-mill for self mill payoffs and reanimator. And there are payoffs and wincons towards almost every single one of those strategies. Meanwhile, Valvagoth is mostly just a worse Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin. Yes V triggers on any amount of life loss, but only once, meanwhile Ob can trigger any number of times, and there are tons of ways to ping your opponents cheaply and repeatably in rakdos, plus Ob can infinite/combo on his own with All Will be One, or with other cards because of the lack of a limit on his triggers. To anyone coming back with "The payoff is killing your opponents" yes but not very quickly. There are so many more synergistic and efficient commanders, let alone group slug commanders, like Obosh, Ojer Axonil, Solphim, Mayhem Dominus. So Valvagoth doesn't speed up the damage you do to your opponents, and isn't nearly as good of a mana or a card advantage engine as dozens of other options. He's just not at the power level of most commander decks these days, and arguably less powerful than the other 3 (Though tbh I'd say Miracle Workers is about equally meh). If you just like Valvagoth, cool, hey it's a casual format, play what you want. But if we're trying to do a raw evaluation of how powerful/consistent each of the 4 decks are, and in upgrading, it's easy to see how the B/G Reanimator Deck and Average Simic Value Engine Commander Deck (admittedly at least slightly more interesting this go around) are a step above.

[@rogercampa320]

TBH I've seen that deck consistently loosing to the other 3 in all the gameplay videos around youtube....maybe there is something about that...

[@ML-yn9yu]

out of the box, simic is the strongest. This might hurt some rakdos players feelings, but it's true.

[@tam2071]

Endless Punishment is better than i think you've given it credit.

[@marcelonatacci2962]

totally agree, i think people are just "saying that endless punishment is bad" because the ways to go with the deck and the 2nd cmd most arent fun, because you'll fuck other people resources(everything) and when you hit other people ... let's say lands, most of them get really mad and dont like, but its chaos/group slug that's what the deck does, i do agree that Valga isnt the "best" but you can do NASTY, really NASTY stuff with it.

[@Did_No_Wrong]

I 100% agree with this. Endless punishment should have at least been #2 but was given last place because people don't want to deal with a burn tax deck. Not to mention reprints like Kederikt Parasite are in the deck.

[@Harbord]

I think when you consider the fact that people pay their own life a lot, with things like painlands. (Which have become really accessible and in every precon). Sometimes people will be doing the damage to themselves too

[@spenpaidesu]

I think one reason they ranked it so low is the price. For $70 couldn’t you build a better/similar Rakdos group slug deck?

[@angeldillemuthactor]

Crazy the "worst" deck is the one everyone wants and is sold out or being price gouged. 😅

[@DanielCotillo]

Endless Punishment does not need payoffs. The commander is not out? Doesn't matter. Everything in the deck is made to punish everyone for playing Magic. That's the whole point.

[@SimonSater]

Yeah, they tend to build too much around the commander in a deck, and too little around the 99..

[@whostoblame1]

@@SimonSaterwhy even play commander if you don’t build around it?

[@atomicorca3062]

@@whostoblame1 You can still build around it but build it so the deck can function even without the commander on board. So many people build their decks where they rely on the commander to be the lynchpin for their strategies and when it gets destroyed you can't play the game that just bad deck building.

[@SimonSater]

@@whostoblame1 imho commander should sinergize withthe rest of the card, but you shouldn't built everything around it. A solid deck is when you can use your commander to get an extra win condition (not the only one), or to strengten the rest of your 99 cards (which would work fine without your commander tho)

[@jeffreystewart6803]

​@SimonSater some commanders are so niche though and it's almost necessary to build the deck around them

[@jerensteinbear]

If youre calling the rakdos deck the worst of the bunch then youre clearly not looking at the same deck as the rest of us.

[@nathansanchez51]

Adding chapters would be a nice touch to the video.

[@blacksheep_edge1412]

You are looking at the Rakdos deck all wrong. The payoff *IS* the damage being dealt, and the commander *with flying* getting bigger when it happens. This is a deck that lives up to the name it was given.

[@sonkal-elkent6143]

The fact that I regularly end up liking the one that gets the lowest score is concerning....

[@nutellakinesis]

@@sonkal-elkent6143 I usually disagree with their rankings. They rated Peace offering the lowest too I believe and Animated Army very poorly as well, which were very good out of the box

[@angeldillemuthactor]

They are just rushing through things to be one of the first for views. They're usually off the mark power wise.

[@boompewpewboom]

Death Toll is one of worst ones tbh. Gameplay is too convoluted for a mill deck whose payoff is only the commander. Straight up mill is better than delirium mill with Meren

[@munsulight721]

In that case and in case of many of their reviews for newer products they tend to rush into these. They tend to add their biases against certain archetypes into these which doesnt help I think on the opposite Endless is probably 2nd here or maybe first. It is that or the simic one. Death Toll is so clearly the worst and is so incohesive and makes no sense considering you would just be better playing Meren to have a better effect and better mill cards in the 99

[@graysonsmith4272]

Forgot to mention the reprint of witch’s clinic in endless punishment. $13

[@jedi_nova_1550]

I feel like Endless Punishment will be pretty good! Can't go wrong with Black/Red

[@pancakeburglar9361]

Honestly I think it looks better than they gave it credit for. Plus it looks like there will be a lot fun upgrade options.

[@RvBnerd618]

Obosh Companion is a great addition if you use Lord of Pain as your Commander.

[@LoveYouFor10000Years]

I feel like it will be the most beginner friendly. But the price is a turn off

[@RvBnerd618]

@@LoveYouFor10000Years True, but sometimes it's worth waiting for precon prices to drop overtime so that later on players looking to start playing Commander can get them at a reasonable price

[@SpiritStoneWarrior94-yx3gs]

​@RvBnerd618 something tells me that the Rakdos precon won't get cheaper. It seems like something a lot of people will want to grab, and will be that way for 3+ years minimum

[@Ookie_FC]

Cutting Yedora is a big no go: - Sakura Tribe Elder and this get you every basic in your deck - Someone kills something on your board at any point in the game? You get to manifest dread, turn it face up, AND get your creature back PLUS any other landfall triggers you have. Absolute engine in this deck.

[@cameronbustos6059]

It might just be me, from leaks to right now, Death Toll looks like the worst deck.

[@nutellakinesis]

@@cameronbustos6059 it most certainly is. I’m sure it’s consistent ish on paper, but I can’t imagine it can really keep up with the rest.

[@moonknight2865]

Its awful. Looks the payoff is too long and graveyard hate just kills it.

[@SilverAphelion]

endless punishment not even out and already salting the haters.

[@danielnakazono5657]

I don’t think price should play as big a part in these reviews as it seems to do. Many of us want to know the best deck out of the box, and if the price of the deck lowers the ranking to last, we aren’t getting the deck we are looking for. It can definitely be mentioned or play some other role in the ranking, but they should be compared by the store price rather than secondary market.

[@silaschandler1215]

My wife and I got back into MTG after an 8 year break and your channel has helped us tremendously. Also, we went from standard to commander and your vids have so many helpful tips that have helped the transition. We love the channel and just keep up the amazing work guys.

[@nutellakinesis]

You rated them backwards

[@Did_No_Wrong]

Bingo. No way in hell was Jump scare better than endless punishment.

[@aryanrejected-2163]

@@Did_No_Wrong and death toll looks like is doing too many things without making actual big moves. You have a lot of self-mill and you don't have many things to bring back your stuff besides your commander lol. Definitely for me the ones that look better are Endless Punishment and Miracle.

[@rogercampa320]

@@Did_No_Wrong I've seen "Jump Scare" going off like crazy in various gameplays around youtube. It even comes with a built in infinite combo to manifest the whole deck! I believe is a serious contender for 1st place.

[@ML-yn9yu]

Not at all, if you watch KZbin videos of these cons-rakdos rarely wins. It's jump scare that is the strongest and usually wins I think people who have OPs mentality haven't actually watched any gameplay 😂

[@nutellakinesis]

@@ML-yn9yu I have watched several gameplay videos

[@Alex-pk1iy]

Endless Punishment looks fun as hell. I got mine preordered at a non-inflated price as well 😁 Sure, it’ll probably need upgrades, what precon doesn’t? But it looks like it will be great straight out of the box as well

[@yeemaster2833]

They aren't giving it enough credit. It actually looks really good

[@DaroriDerEinzige]

Seems like rage bait tbh

[@KeepTheKitLow]

Now for the "weakest" precon, the most expensive one! Sounds silly lol

[@topiask5315]

People don't buy power, they buy what they want. Like squirrels in bloomburrow were mega expensive and arguably the weakest of those precons.

[@MonsieurLoutre]

Fun fact, Yedora combos off with Sakura tribe elder which is in the precon. Sacrifice STE put a land into play, manifest dread, it comes back as a forest and turns itself up. Then you can continue and bring as many basic lands as you want or do it on each players's turns to manifest dread since it's only the first trigger.

[@stevenboland9271]

Yedora combos off with Zimone and Altar of Dementia, too. I don't know what they think it's not a great card. Hell, without the wincon, it just lets your commander trigger more often, and potentially let you just re-flip the card you "lost."

[@LilyWater84]

It turns any sac outlet into infinite mana, card draw, or whatever you need. Its infinte green mana cause you just tap the forest before zimone flips it, then you sac it and repeat. A simic deck with infinte mana, landfall, death triggers, is going to find a way to win. Either with something like aesi tatyova to draw the whole deck or a massive mana sink, Yedora is single handedly the most dangerous creature in the deck imo (with the commander in play, without the commander its still ramp that protects the board until zimone is back but with her you just kind of combo off)

[@dannil9878]

Endless punishment is The coolest by far and good value. Sorry not sorry❤

[@gabemango]

crazy how i just searched for a breakdown of all 4 decks and you uploaded this 2 minutes ago. It was fate.

[@NitpickingNerds]

It was meant to be!

[@gabemango]

@@NitpickingNerds can you send me a precon? lol

[@lazybum965]

A miracle if you will

[@g1stylempdesign929]

They are the best! Stick with the Nitpicking Neards :)

[@gregbridge]

There has GOT to be some Graveyard bias going on. I had the absolute OPPOSITE reaction to the Death Toll deck. It's literally a Delirium deck that requires you to actively turn off or work towards turning off Delirium. It was honestly a huge disappointment because it requires so many hoops to jump through to try and reanimate something... but with a finality counter.

[@hatchell18]

Dude any properly built and good self mill deck can easily have a shit ton of cards in the graveyard to keep delirium up. You can easily activate his effect 2-3 times almost every turn. Keeping up the delirium isn’t hard at ALL bro lol. Just learn how to build properly and don’t assume something’s bad when it’s not.

[@hatchell18]

Also finality counters can easily be removed. And he can reanimate any permanent not just creatures. Without finality counters it would be broken asf. He can instantly win by just self milling into a tainted pact or demonic consultation, than bringing them back. After that boom you win, it’s ggs😂

[@cameronbustos6059]

I firmly believe death toll still looks like the worst deck of the bunch

[@hatchell18]

@@cameronbustos6059 with some upgrades it’s actually one of the best. Being able to reanimate any permanent for free just by exiling a couple cards from the grave is op. People keep complaining about him working against delirium, but any properly built self mill/gravyard deck will have so many cards in the grave that it’s never an issue keeping delirium up. Can proc his effect 2-3 times a turn it’s not hard.

[@drguthrie7621]

I'm so sick of finality counters

[@yeemaster2833]

Bro this video actually has to be a joke right? Me and every comment i am seeing hard disagrees with this list

[@NitpickingNerds]

When there’s 4 cool decks, a cool deck has to get last place. It’s ok to disagree :)

[@kucci8157]

you just lost all of your creditability...

[@drbeetheemighty]

Crazy how fast this was put up. You all rock!

[@NitpickingNerds]

We had to WORK for this one to come out today lol

[@drbeetheemighty]

@NitpickingNerds very much appreciated as always!

[@alessandrofinderle956]

I don't understand the point of the review. Do you have different decklists than the ones I read? Because otherwise I have to say that this video must be an April Fool's joke in September, if it is, good job!

[@radutaga]

I am super confised about the endless punishment deck evaluation. There is no payoff for dealing damage? Isn't that what you do to win the game?

[@nutellakinesis]

You don’t need a backup plan in Rakdos. You’re just dealing damage. It’s quite cohesive.

[@tedwasanasan3805]

This is the type of player I'm am not threatened by.

[@nutellakinesis]

@@tedwasanasan3805 maybe you just haven’t been Rakdos’ed hard enough

[@summermermaidstar756]

Yeah they are really underestimating the Rakdos one.

[@nutellakinesis]

@@summermermaidstar756 I’m going to run it with the secondary commander and put some wound reflection, gratuitous violence, mana barbs, fiery emancipation, and some other goodies

[@RvBnerd618]

@nutellakinesis I'm likely to run the secondary commander too to run Obosh as my companion. Endless Punishment's hype is well deserved for a reason.

[@littlemunchkinman2794]

I love the house card in the back. Hugh Laurie is the real house

[@cullenclark]

Death Toll has to be the worst of the 4 haha

[@erichunt1974]

I think Duskmourn looks fun and there are cards I'm thinking of slotting into a decent few of my decks, but I think wizards of the coast is missing out on a very obvious flavor win! Even if we have some gremlins, hoblins are one of (if not the) the scariest folk horror archetypes and we're really missing out on them in the horror plane. I personally am terrified every time one of my opinions brings Krenko, Mob Boss into our pod.

[@israelmartinez4097]

Agate instigator really pissed off my wife. I kept burning her and in one turn I hit her for half her hp. She nuked the board and scooped her cards.

[@Timmy___handle]

Moxfield ad at 6:66 for the spooky set

[@lunarlight3131]

stahp lying

[@Timmy___handle]

@@lunarlight3131big sad I was wrong

[@tykabot5520]

Death Toll is literally the worst precon with the worst commander I’ve seen since tinker time. You guys lost all credibility for me here. I’m guessing this is bait to get comments but goddamn you go it so wrong here

[@nutellakinesis]

Yeah this was a super terrible take

[@cowboy_henk]

they give intentionally terrible analysis to drive engagement, and they've done it for years

[@miguelangelcaceresl.2857]

Literally I bought endless punishment because it was the most reliable and interesting of the 4, and the idea is so simple that you can upgrade it easily

[@PUDRETE919]

23:50 Love the reaction to the art controversy, good on you to take a stand like that

[@RenanJarniac]

Endless Punishment in 4th place? you guys are totally out of your minds...but its ok to be wrong!

[@LilyWater84]

36:10 nope nope nope DO NOT CUT YEDORA! Yedora makes your board state unkillable and creates a 3 card infinite in the precon with Sakura Tribe Elder. This is because its face down and triggers a landfall at the same time. Its a second ashya. "oh you killed my creature, well now it returns as a forest which triggers zimone, flipping that killed creature right back over and meaning that as long as Yedora is here the deck can not lose creatures unless they are exiled. This card is INSANELY good in this strategy. Any sac outlet with Zimone in play just goes infinite on the spot

[@baconsir1159]

No mention of Sensei’s Divining Top for the miracle deck? First card I thought of.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

Ironic is that the Endless punishment review feels endless and punishing in its review. I don't think y'all get the concept of Group Slug: it is supposed to affect everyone. If it doesn't hurt you as well you are not doing it the Rakdos way! I agree with the other comments this list is backwards LOL ;p

[@bertycx]

Awesome video, I really appreciate the thoughtful content! Just a suggestion, cards are hard to read on mobile as they're small. Perhaps you could expand the card size while you're talking about it, or generally play around with shrinking/expanding your video and the card depending on what you're talking about? That would be great!

[@KingThor128]

Endless Punishment needs work for sure, but I have a Rakdos main buddy who is going to be an ARCH ENEMY. And man, another SIMIC precon. Should have been Abzan.

[@NitpickingNerds]

I am always down for an Abzan precon 👀

[@KingThor128]

Abzan as a 3 color probably has the most hit or miss commander selection outside of partner/backgrounds, must feed it more

[@GhostlyGhost333]

I’m still gonna get Endless Punishment. Even if the commander isn’t out, the deck punishes players for doing things. Valgavoth is just a bonus with card draw. The other decks are certainly amazing, and I’d like to own them too, but Endless Punishment is definitely on my radar.

[@Wojtek36762]

Yedora makes your creature death generate a landfall, and if it’s your second one of the turn, Zimone flips the creature back up. It’s a little clunky but a very cute little combo.

[@caitiethompson]

I ordered Endless punishment for 47.99 at Best buy :) It wasn't on sale or anything! Definitely worth it.

[@raducsanyi-vo919]

I would have thought Yedora is so good for the deck because when a creature dies it returns face down and Zimone can turn it face up again with it's own landfall trigger?

[@drguthrie7621]

Disorienting Choice is a banger, my Omo deck LOVES non-basic land searches and both options are good for me, even getting one land search can put me ahead and if I don't get a land search then I get removal

[@stephenbradford8524]

Sandwurm Convergence is one of my favorite cards. One of the first (60 card) decks I ever brewed tried to lock players out of casting any spells using Knowledge Pool, but only after I landed the Convergence. Deck sucked, but I love the card anyway.

[@kamronlewis2019]

Some of the worst takes I’ve hear about endless punishment yet. This deck is the most underrated of the 4 in my opinion. This SCREAMS rakdos

[@crocholiday]

I can't wait for this set to come out. Got the set of 4 precons plus a booster box ordered. Looking forward to building a Jolly Balloon Man deck.

[@beefytaco6374]

Got the lurgoyph precon, deluge of doom plus lurgoyph kinda goes brrr

[@amoreda1]

Sorry but I disagree with this take. In my opinion, Death Toll offers the worst value and seems the least interesting. I say this as a fan of graveyeard decks but it sees terrible to reanimate needing delireum only to lose it and the creature you reanimated has a finality counter. This analysis seems like a miss to me.

[@VariableEnd]

I can appreciate that this review came out VERY quickly, but i would always rather wait a little longer for a review that doesn't seem biased against one of the decks. On Endless Punishment's value alone, i think a $13 reprint was hopefully just forgotten. And saying the deck has no payoff is a pretty weird take considering damaging your opponents is the standard way to win the game. What a weird review

[@Mr0rachadi]

I've only bought the ones they've said we're “Booty” because they're not LOL.

[@grevron7607]

these sets are just good for collections. Not expecting much. Better buy a collector boosters

[@Akwaz0]

Lol, putting the Rakdos one last and the Golgari first when it's actually the worst of the 4 decks ? Insane

[@purpleslushie]

I can't wait to twist the endless punishment deck into something so deliciously vile that people will scoop from the game upon hearing the name of the commander. All so I can try to convince them to play and how it will not be that bad when it truly shall be far worse than they think it will be. 😈 👿

[@NitpickingNerds]

HECK YEAH

[@bunrakku]

that's what you get when you pick on nits, you make the wrong judgment. Endless Punishment hurts in multiplayer.

[@nonaG123]

You guys' card recommendations really emphasize how much different your play group is from mine the first one sounds brutal, second one has promise but not for the reasons you mentioned, third one is not bad and i agree for second place but with hefty upgrades, and the last one which you rated highest would get me merc'd every game without much resistance I put money on that... no way they'd LET me build that board state when they'd see it coming a mile out

[@8han]

You suggested cutting Yedora, which along with Zimone and any creature you can sacrifice creates an infinite loop of sacrifice effect, turn dead into a forest, trigger Zimone to flip forest back to creature, repeat. Pretty sure theres an infinite manifest dread loop in the precon. No idea why you would say to cut this card and lose this utility.

[@Joolenplus]

They rushed this video out to be the first to post content. Yedora is literally one of the best cards in that precon due to the infinite loops it enables. And yeah there's like 2 or 3 different loops in the deck that all involve Yedora

[@SilverAphelion]

nah my dude Ob nixilis plan is a whole nother game.

[@corruptpixel8441]

I think if valgavoth had a regular ward 2 it would be better just so it can survive longer, because paying 2 kife to remove it is nothing and easier. I understand the criticism of the deck because of the price now and how versatile can it be compared to the other but as any commander I'm sure with upgrades it will shine

[@Randydontknow]

are you going to complete your "all comanders ranked" list? i like the list very much and use i realy often to evaluate if a commander could be fun or not :)

[@vosteoperosisv6415]

Endless punishment no talk about manabarbs? Like that’s instant dmg no matter what

[@jonathanfagerlund976]

With Disorienting Choice, if opponents choose lands x2, you could get Boseiju and a Bounce Land, order it so the Boseiju goes to your hand, and then still remove the most problematic artifact/enchantment.

[@NitpickingNerds]

That is an interesting piece of tech for the card, could be worth trying

[@elibuggy-agresti6529]

Would love to see a video ranking just the commanders for the set independent of the precons they come in. Even better if you include other legends from outside the precons.

[@aidanwoodside1561]

I was sooo hyped for Endless Punishment, but ig it's pretty easy to upgrade

[@xaxscratchxax926]

Vulvagirth. What a commander. Lol

[@crashka5860]

i think while the cards in the black red precon may not be amazing they will almost all go in gev which is great for me

[@toms1782]

Sensies divining top is a solid upgrade for that enchantment miracle deck. States “Look” which is awesome, stack your deck before your turn or other cards in your hand etc.,

[@jesse-kz8ru]

Awsome review thanks for the video

[@williamagoras]

You all are off the mark with taking Yedora out of the Zimone deck. It ramps all your lands out with a single scuba steve... love the content though

[@JacobSmith-vt4hp]

Is it just me or does Ugin’s Mastery seem like it doesn’t fully benefit the simic deck? The way I read it is that Ugins is a cast trigger for colorless creature spells. Unless you’re planning on running artifact creatures or eldrazi then you won’t be getting that much additional manifests off right?

[@Beckola44]

I like the "Hugh Laurie Is the Real House." I appreciate the two of you reviewing the DuskMourn Pre-cons. I pre-ordered them for $119.99 from my LGS. There are some good cards in these decks. Thank you for the video Mia and Beezy.

[@NitpickingNerds]

Thanks for the comment!

[@Beckola44]

@@NitpickingNerds I also enjoyed watching you and Mia playin Commander on Decked Out with Nerd Girl and Veggie Wagon.

[@PalladiumMyr]

Endless Punishment is literally the best deck out of the 4. Not sure what bias they're leaning into but the others are dog water compared to this deck.

[@moonknight2865]

The simic one looks good but i agree, its the best one. I feel they mighy have rushed this one but hey, they do admit when they’re wrong alot so this might just be another of those situations.

[@rogercampa320]

@@moonknight2865 The simic one is bonkers! watch the gameplays in "Worst possible commander" or " Commander at home" to see it go nuts!

[@ML-yn9yu]

It may LOOK the best ,but simic is the strongest out of the box. This isnt even bias, all you have to do is look at the gameplay on KZbin.

[@moonknight2865]

I love you guys but Death Toll is one of the worst pre cons ive ever seen. Like i said on the command zone, its too slow, delirium isnt that fun and the payoffs aren’t that good. Number 1? I wouldn’t even put it on the list, period. Endless or the dread deck are easily number one in my opinion. Also no Omniscience for the enchantment deck? Seems like a no brained. 6 mana enchantment that will let you play for absolute zero sounds like an amazing gameplan to me.

[@mufasafalldown8401]

Death Toll seems awesome. I really want to mash it together with my Grismold deck.

[@TDominus]

Suggesting to cut Yedora from Jump Scare! it's a wrong decision , since with ashaya and other cards can easily combo and end the game in one turn

[@nicknormousreports3378]

Can yall put card kingdom add lists in the description so we can buy the adds to thendecks we want?

[@PUDRETE919]

Redress Fate fits in quite nicely with other cards with similar effects, Brilliant Restauration is identical mechanically without the miracle and cost only 1 less, Open the Vaults having a symetric effect for all plays costs only 2 less; any deck that runs those 2 will gladly run that as well and any deck that doesn't run the last two will not run Redress Fate just for the miracle cost, that is too narrow a use case

[@jacesaints4117]

Trouble in Pairs Error (Error 404) killed me 🤣

[@jaeger7243]

How do rooms work with anikthea? Do you get to choose the room or are both doors locked when it enters from the graveyard?

[@alextelfer4215]

The Lord of Pain with Grafted Exoskeleton lol

[@tyrelledavenport106]

Why would Sheoldred go down in price. It’s a 4 mana 4/5 that can literally bomb a game lol. Card is broken

[@ectoBiologist21]

What is going on with the precon prices for the rackdos deck? It’s literally cheaper to buy the whole deck in singles on cardkingdom than to buy the precon?

[@AlainReyes]

People simping for the rakdos one while it is just the 2022 starter deck paint coated. Now the miracle one, that one looks promising..

[@edwarddaignault5243]

That's the vibe I'm getting, people simping for the Rakdos deck

[@Akwaz0]

You're right on a thing, it's like a starter deck pumped. No 3 submechanics, no emergency plan, no alternative wincon, he's doing one thing and he's doing well. Like, when you see the decklist, there is a room for upgrades, but also, each card is here for a reason. I think that's why it's the strongest of 4 (and will be the most targeted around the table),; you don't need to set up for 5 turns, having a swarm of creatures or stompy dudes, the deck playsby itself. For Aminatou, super interesting commander, but imo the cards put in the deck are "meh". Aminatou is nerfed by the deck, and you forgot something, the deck relies heavily on this commander. if Aminatou goes 2 times in the CZ, you are mostly done. I'll build her on my side though, with the scarecrow golgari commander

[@michaelbond249]

Great video!! Everything i wanna here.

[@codyscherer6930]

Am i not understanding the miracle commander. How do cards in the hand have miracle if u can only cast it on draw? Would that be better worded as "the first enchantment u draw each turn"

[@alfredorivera5764]

Technically the manifest are called "manifest #1, manifest #2, manifest #3..."

[@brian_simmons_]

Where’s the Rhystic Study for the miracle deck??? Haha

[@Pimpulus]

i love HOUSE! yes, me too, one of the really good lore aspects

[@Zzmj975]

Kinda figured the rakdos deck wouldn't be great on paper but I can't wait to upgrade it

[@NitpickingNerds]

There is usually one precon like that per batch!

[@nutellakinesis]

And it’s definitely not the Rakdos one

[@weihaigoh9734]

From my site... Esper deck is number 4 because this deck is not very aggressive and needs time to build up the board. If this deck can run long enough and opponents screw up then this deck will control the board. Golgari will be number 3. That return mechanic is very nice, but it's very limited due to needing 4 different card types in the graveyard. If running long game, this deck will generate a ton of value. The Rakdos should be on number 2 due to the deck mostly is hurting people and pumping up commanders. So it is very aggressive among the deck, but the problem is card draw, and after boardwipe, consume more time to build up compared with golgari and jump scare precon. Simic the number 1 precon from my view because of the commander ability that turn up face down card. The deck can go infinite manifest dread, and this is crazy. I do not see any problem with this precon so far. Maybe just worry people keep aiming the commamder only.

[@DaroriDerEinzige]

It does cost 45 Bucks if you don't go to resellers ... o.O Not 70.

[@rotyboty7046]

valgavoth is just the best ones

[@djipcdelta9641]

70$ ? Wow in french is cost 40€

[@exiledark6573]

I keep giving you guys chances, but every opinion just seems to be worse than the last.

[@rgeraldc80s]

Death toll will end up being the least expensive I think.

[@110019a]

i think with the group slug deck your just always the target like sure you can kill the table but can you 1 v 3 all the time