SLIP TEST - 2007 Honda CR-V Real Time AWD vs 2008 Nissan X-Trail All Mode -

[@itrunamok8019]

I've got a 2011 crv, best car ever! As a carpenter this car has the perfect amount of cargo room, fuel efficiency, and reliability. The awd system has never let me down, even driving to the most remote off road construction sites in the winter. The added weight of the car makes it one of the most superior of the awd systems in its class.

[@Igor_igoryan]

Прекрасно! Ни какой воды, всë по делу, каждый делает выводы самостоятельно. Спасибо за видео!

[@geraldneu4799]

I expected the Nissan to do better.

[@kenobi570]

Oh right So let's see how the Honda CRV does in proper off road conditions when the proper 4x4 that is manually operated comes into its own The Xtrail will win hands down

[@kenobi570]

These allwheel drive cars are all good in road conditions But when it comes to proper mud plugging the CRV will not stand a chance

[@bassegoder]

There's videos, just look for them. You would be surprised how good subarus hondas and other lighter cars, even panda or skodas do compared with some pure heavy big wheel 4x4 The videos are out there.

[@zurass1991]

Co to za alusy w hondzie? Jaki rozmiar i model?

[@RTI_MD]

The problem (or maybe not) is that when you turn off the VSA, it completely turns off everything - ESP together with the traction control. So unfortunately you are basically left with an open diff system with no brake distribution. With VSA on, the system works, but it also cuts power from the engine, so in real conditions you cannot force it.

[@TomekPL123]

In this crv first thing before offroad is take out VSA fuse. With VSA you'll stuck faster.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@TomekPL123 Why would you take the fuse out if you can switch VSA off by button?

[@An.Individual]

I thought the rear discs were glowing on the Honda at 3:07 Looking a 2nd time I think it was just the angle of the light.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

That is reflection of the red car which was behind the camera.

[@job38four10]

This has got to be the best way to test different 4 wheel drive model systems. My 04 Jeep liberty wouldn't do any better, but I bet I'd do better at worse gas mileage........

[@bmbl80]

We need to test x-trail with AT and after facelift. Are you going to Warsaw someday?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

We want to go to Warsaw but so far there is rather winter coming...

[@Ahto42]

Yes please!

[@Ahto42]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers When?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Ahto42 Still no schedule, hotels are closed...

[@mariuszbrodzki4571]

Czy w tej Hondzie z tyłu nie jest zablokowany cylinderek bo tarcza czerwona?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Nie, w tarczy odbija się czerwony samochód 🙂

[@mariuszbrodzki4571]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Ok dzięki.

[@McLooSK]

What a hack did honda use? I guess this is best result for that cr-v I’ve ever seen.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

That's standard awd system of that generation, including traction control/VSA.

[@boriskostadinov9350]

What would happen if you press the brake slightly during the hardest test(the fail)?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

It should help... But it doesn't. We tried that in two cars - brake in Audi V8 with rear torsen differential and handbrake in Mitsubishi Outlander II - no effect: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iGKTo2Zva7GUntE kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpKVqZKDa62ggac

[@raymondt5646]

The result came out, everyone is the same (off road will not work)

[@hakrihe]

Does anybody have hands-on experience how these work if one or more wheel is slipping a long time...for example you have to drive a pretty slippery and snowy road and the car is moving constantly but slowly and awd is trying to get a grip. Will there be problems?

[@atracin]

2:58 gonna be honest I was really surprised the Nissan was able to get out of that one.

[@marcinadamiak6561]

Czesc.Czy napędy Hondy cr-v 2006 są takie same jak tej w teście? Mam dylemat czy honda cr-v czy nissan x-trial....

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Cześć, 2006 to zmiana generacji, rozumiem, że pytasz o gen II?

[@marcinadamiak6561]

Tak generacja 2 dokladnie

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@marcinadamiak6561 Co do zasady jest to ten sam napęd, ale w trzeciej generacji dołożono sprzęgło pilotujące, zatem w generacji drugiej napęd reaguje wolniej i tylko przy poślizgu przedniej osi. Pod tym względem X-Trail ma po stokroć lepszy układ awd.

[@marcinadamiak6561]

Czyli radzisz do lekkiego terenu Nissana?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@marcinadamiak6561 Pod względem napędu na cztery koła zdecydowanie tak, tym bardziej, że Nissan ma opcję LOCK.

[@krisdg100]

I am afraid to ask as I don't know much about cars, but why rhe rear discs of the Honda are glowing in red?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Many people asked that question - that is just a reflection of red car which was parked behind the camera 🙂

[@shamrock2422]

Czy ten lock w tym x-Trailu jest sprawny? Niewiele się zmienia.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Sprawny, różnicę widać w pierwszym teście (przednia oś na rolkach).

[@shamrock2422]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers właśnie nie widzę różnicy między auto a lock. W drugim teście też. Jakby ten lock nic nie zmieniał.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@shamrock2422 Przyjrzyj się w pierwszym teście, ile obrotów robią przednie koła zanim samochód ruszy. W drugim przyjrzyj się, kiedy tylna oś zaczyna się kręcić w stosunku do przedniej.

[@shamrock2422]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ok

[@rustamsalakhetdinov3413]

Sorry guys .But its not true. Why not torn off ESP on CRV ????

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

What's not true? Turning ESP off on CR-V disengages also traction control system so the car is left with two open diffs with no brake system assist. You can see it at 2:08

[@roburtooo]

Ciekawi mnie jak by wyglądały rezultaty podczas testu na rolkach ale zamontowanych na wzniesieniu powiedzmy 10%

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Zapewne byłoby trudniej, zakładając użycie tych samych, "głębokich" rolek. Gdyby nawierzchnia była równa, to pomimo wzniesienia byłoby łatwiej: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXOWZIZvn8qAeLs

[@roburtooo]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers W autach, w których sterownik rozdziela proporcje przeniesienia mocy na poszczególne koła względem pozycji auta (pochylenia) wg mnie mogły by być bardzo duże różnice podczas testu na wzniesieniu a na płaskiej powierzchni (tu prawdopodobnie były by największe różnice między trybem np. auto/standard a offroad). To tylko moje przemyślenia (do zweryfikowania;)).

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@roburtooo Poślizg kół jest nadrzędny nad innymi czynnikami, tzn po utracie przyczepności układy działają na 100% swoich możliwości 🙂 Inaczej będzie przed utratą, w tym przypadku tylko Nissan i tylko w pierwszym teście mógłby wypaść lepiej.

[@skoda110]

Slabo sobie radzą nieprawdaż?...chyba zostanę przy mojej starej land cruiser.....ma blokade mostu tylnego i centralnego.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@skoda110 Jak na tego typu napędy i tamte lata to radzą sobie bardzo dobrze 🙂

[@OutdoorFun01]

I was surprised that the Honda even made it up at least one roller.

[@jpch8814]

The model that came after this one was complete trash, this one was average.

[@OutdoorFun01]

@@jpch8814 hahaha.

[@jimdon7377]

@@jpch8814 you have no idea what you are talking about

[@jpch8814]

@@jimdon7377 perhaps you should youtube 2013 honda crv off road or on rollers and have a nice laugh.

[@jimdon7377]

@@jpch8814 nissan is garbage, unreliable

[@wyprawyleonayt]

Cześć, we wcześniejszych filmach pomimo umieszczenia wizualizacji na wstępie filmu, nie widziałem porównań z rolkami umieszczonymi po przekątnej. Chciałem zobaczyć jak wypada GV II vs chociażby Outlander II. Pozdrawiam :)

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Cześć, Outlander II jest np. tutaj: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpKVqZKDa62ggac Grand Vitary na dwóch rolkach w zasadzie nie mam, tylko jakieś bardzo stare materiały w trybie 4H (końcówka testu): kzbin.info/www/bejne/o17WZod7ht9_arc

[@wyprawyleonayt]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ta Granda miała rolki po przekątnej?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@wyprawyleonayt Ostatnie 13 sekund filmu. W małym kadrze widać tylne prawe koło. Niestety nie testowaliśmy z włączoną blokadą centralnego dyfra oraz reduktorem, a to zmienia postać rzeczy. Pełny test Grand Vitary mam tylko na trzech rolkach.

[@wyprawyleonayt]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers oki, widać że zjechał, a myślałem że się nie uda :)

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@wyprawyleonayt Jeżeli bez problemów zjeżdża z trzech, to z dwóch tym bardziej 🙂

[@viposek427]

Mnie ciekawi niesamowicie jak działa i czy działa EDS czyl elektronische differentialsperre w FWD. Fajnie by było zobaczyć jak testujecie podkładając pod jedno koło z przodu w FW D taką rolkę z ESP i bez ESP. Akurat tak się składa, że mam takie auto z oficjalnie wbitym w wyposażenie taką opcją. Skąd jesteście?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Rzeszów, zapraszam 🙂 Jakie auto?

[@viposek427]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers kurde trochę za daleko, ja bywam w Szczecinie, Kwidzynie, Trójmiasto, Grudziądz. Auto - Golf 5 Sportline 2.0 FSI BLX150 koni FWD 2005 rok z EDS.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@viposek427 W tamtych stronach niestety nie bywamy. Może kiedyś uda się coś na miejscu znaleźć, było na testach kilka samochodów FWD.

[@viposek427]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers chyba, że załatwię sobie taką rolkę i sam przetestuje i nagram film i Wam podeślę, rozumiem, że są to rolki do odwijania przewodów? Każda jedna spełni swoją funkcje czy lepiej kupić coś specyficznego?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@viposek427 Nie wiem, jaką wytrzymałość mają rolki do przewodów, te robiliśmy specjalnie pod samochody 🙂 Trzeba uważać, żeby sobie auta nie uszkodzić, można ewentualnie zapytać na Stacjach Kontroli Pojazdów, niektóre mają takie rolki (ale płaskie, czyli dużo małych roleczek blisko siebie).

[@perla8135]

En conclusión Nissan lo hizo mejor😊 aunque la CRV es muy buena tambien

[@Fubarpapa]

I think if there is not open diff and not active spinning wheel braking only forward generating force becomes from counterforce accelerating spinning wheels. Sorry bad english. So fast acceleration gives more force. Heavyer tires or engaging clutch fast and higher gear should help getting of rollers. Operator control makes diference. I dont really see what this test show with this kind of drivetrain. Test is different every time. My opinions only, no need to get mad.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Fubarpapa Unfortunately your opinion is wrong. If it was right, cars could always get out of rollers. But they can't. And if you look at Honda, where ESP/TC is off, it's going nowhere cause there's no brake intervention.

[@Fubarpapa]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers That's what I tried to say . Only difference is brake intervention. I didn't know if there is one or not. Don't know what was wrong with that.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@Fubarpapa There was nothing wrong with brake intervention.

[@gheorgheirinelgulai8581]

Very good Honda

[@An.Individual]

did you see this 3:28

[@PoznajPrawde1980]

Haha Honda it almost caught fire

[@gheorgheirinelgulai8581]

Well, Honda don't have a locking diferential. Good enough for this type af awd.

[@RTI_MD]

@@An.Individual It's just a reflection from a red car...

[@RTI_MD]

@@PoznajPrawde1980 it's just a damn reflection...

[@panama-canada]

Good review. Need a true differential lock.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Thanks.

[@edwinalexander1170]

It depends on the tyre I have Nissan Xtrail T31 and I have put BF Goodrich size 245/ 70/ R16, it would have climbed there and finished this stupid race in a matter of half a minute.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Tyres do not influence this test at all.

[@edwinalexander1170]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers it has to do, as the tyres are only sliding there, the BF Goodrich tyres it's grooves will make a quick breakthrough and the tyre size is 28 kg., think about all four tyres total 112 kg plus weight of the vehicle all acting with the downward force, those rollers are just none sense to it.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@edwinalexander1170 This test is about the ability of awd system. Both cars are on street summer tyres, both cars are not missing grip. In this case everything depends on awd system. I don't see any sense of your point here.

[@edwinalexander1170]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers what is your conclusion on these two vehicles capability?

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@edwinalexander1170 Traction control - in Nissan always on, in Honda it goes off together with ESP. Traction control reaction times - slightly better in Honda. Rear axle reaction time - much better in Nissan. Overall ability is much better in Nissan as the system is electronically controlled and proactive while Honda system is almost entirely reactive.

[@Valery-f2w]

x-trail the best

[@77desa77]

Nissan to jest to samo co koleos 1 ???

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Samochody różne, choć mechanicznie mają ten sam układ AWD, różnice mogą być w oprogramowaniu.

[@77desa77]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers A macie na kanale test koleos 1 ???

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@77desa77 Niestety nie mamy.

[@detustory1680]

Awesome

[@muzictherpy]

Well it's not quite the same in real situation.. both cars can deliver better performance though..

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Tests on rollers vs real world situations: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2OZmmOwptmYjqc Tests on rollers - WHAT DO THEY SHOW? How to interpret the results? kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKXbmHmglr1sfq8

[@aaronslack4421]

I gotta say I think when my 08 crv awd dies I'm gonna get a 2011 or 2010 because it's just so perfect and has the 5 speed at and not cvt to deal with

[@fishlover4523]

Got my 07 and it wont give up... CRV’s FTW

[@ronnieyoung8549]

We have an 11 an a my mom has a 06 crv. I've made it up hills that full-size pickup truck couldn't. I use a driver mod

[@ronnieyoung8549]

@@fishlover4523 take out the air filter and hear vtec hit nice.

[@reallivingtv1662]

@@ronnieyoung8549 What?

[@mitsuevo8mr]

This is exactly the reason why I always get Mitsubishi or subaru when it comes to awd!! But if you want a true off-roader get a proper 4x4 with low range and lockers!! My mitsubishi pajero limited never disappointed me ! Always make it to the roughest terrains and places!!

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Here is Outlander from that era: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpKVqZKDa62ggac And here are Subaru: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpKxlGCHhcSIirc kzbin.info/www/bejne/npmlfWShgaiBb7s

[@jaketregler7423]

Good cars didn’t know the rotors were glow in the dark lol

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Rotors were glow in the dark?

[@fajaryudhapratama8838]

crv used r18 wheel, T31 r17

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

Outer diameter is almost the same.

[@FramesGonga]

goooooooooddd !!!!

[@BuIIyMagyire]

Nissan king❤❤

[@everardoambrocio3006]

Do this with Tacoma👍🏽😎

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

I wish but it's hard to find in Europe...

[@rowanwilkinson9714]

Something a Subaru beats all of them with.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

It depends which model...

[@ЕвгенийСоседов-щ6л]

Ура такое себе, там муфта быстро перегревается

[@albertgray5231]

lol jajaj crv en reversa asi que no cuenta es mejor la crv 2007 2011 el mejor

[@muhammatrizki3795]

XTRAIL... Mantap

[@pawe3130]

Honda całkiem nieźle sobie poradziła.

[@maghnaurs2686]

👍

[@p.istaker8862]

What a load of dung. Those things are about as much use as a foot brake on a wheel chair !

[@hilti503]

Movie pray -dog

[@bagussucahyo3719]

xtrail 👍👍👍👍👍

[@ЕвгенийСоседов-щ6л]

Водилы разные...

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

And what about it?

[@sdj4112]

Stupid test.I’ve had my 4x4 XTrail here in the Philippines and NEVER had any problems driving in thick clay mud around paddy field. CRVs are useless in comparison

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

The fact that you never had problems doesn't mean the test is stupid.

[@sdj4112]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I’ve had the XTrail since January 2009 we are farmers your test is not practical unless it’s intended for urban only driving.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@sdj4112 My test show a lot of aspects, for example the ability of the system to overcome a diagonal obstacle with two wheels in the air. That is not urban situation. Some other aspects are shown in the video "Tests on rollers vs REAL WORLD situations" kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2OZmmOwptmYjqc

[@abykuttan22]

Try CRV for a few months might change your mind

[@sdj4112]

@@abykuttan22 no thanks my niece has one here in the Philippines it’s a nice paved road car, but useless on our farming roads that turn to mud during the 5 months of rainy season.

[@4ua777]

👍🇺🇦

[@antiment666]

Позор

[@iidentifyasarock6106]

Is this the battle of the crappiest cars ever made?

[@RTI_MD]

One of those is probably the most reliable SUV ever made, just so you know...

[@kustu]

@@RTI_MD Honda is average when it comes to reliability and X trail is quite bad.

[@RTI_MD]

@@kustu that generation of CRV was top on reliability.

[@iidentifyasarock6106]

@@RTI_MD Both of them are garbage

[@emilnordstrom9531]

The CR-V gen 3 holds forever. No rust like the german cars. My -07 diesel just goes on without issues

[@jpch8814]

The Nissan Qashqai has an awesome AWD, the X-trail is a big ugly box with trash AWD.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

They have exactly the same awd system.

[@jpch8814]

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers And one works well while the other sucks, similar to Tiguan and Q3.

[@4x4.tests.on.rollers]

@@jpch8814 I don't know that, we have to compare generations and production years, software was changing during the years.

[@Ahto42]

One factor is weight.

[@jimdon7377]

nissan garbage