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Camp Conversations between Dutch and Molly
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[@Rojitomojto]

Listening to Dutch and molly flirt is like watching your parents flirt

[@SeanLake777]

Fr

[@junetta_aep_breaccglas]

Kinda gross and uncomfortable ngl

[@keknov5555]

Fr it’s so weird

[@snakeeateerrrrr]

Hello ladies

[@SteveBucemi]

Your Great Great Great Parents flirting

[@Chowder12345able]

"This is a private conversation Mr Morgan" *Backs away 3 feet* *Molly resumes conversation*

[@tahitiplanderlinde8640]

After that he went 3 feet forward

[@aeroripper]

lmao how funny it would appear irl

[@wetube6513]

More like *Hovers away 3 feet*

[@Satellite_Of_Love]

"Not to worry, Miss O'Shea, only I and the rest of the English speaking world will know."

[@kylefrank638]

"muh laydeh"

[@amadeoindromeno2452]

Arthur every time someone talks about their private life: 👂🏻👁👄👁👂🏻

[@lungtoo1525]

Matej Babić copied comment i saw this comment earlier

[@amadeoindromeno2452]

@@lungtoo1525 just because I had the same Idea as someone else doesn't mean I copied.

[@miteb.decarburetor2656]

@@amadeoindromeno2452 But you copied it the exact same way

[@shinglesrazorscooter1422]

Bruh someone makes this comment like every time this type of video comes out. I’ve seen a lot of these and I’ve seen the same comment by the completely different people. And that doesn’t mean they all copied so relax

[@NoU-pf8fc]

Hahahhahahahahhahahahahhahaha damn bro that’s so funny I’m literally wheezing rn😐

[@Aria-rb5ie]

Molly: *Having a breakdown Arthur: *Have you seen the way Dutch looks at Mary Beth?*

[@aotearoa24-79]

Like a dog with a piece of steak!

[@EnigmaShadow03]

You just keep telling yourself what you need to hear.

[@defectedclone6649]

God I love this thread of comments. It’s so funny lol

[@trevorphilips9065]

Low honor Arthur moments

[@TheEmpiresStrongest]

@@aotearoa24-79 now that is funny 🤣🤣

[@sansguerra2265]

Arthur is so nice with the other ladies when they bump into him, but when Molly bumps into him, it seems like he is talking to Uncle.

[@stanlytherobot4933]

Or reverend

[@edwarddillanger5922]

Well she does about as much work as uncle does so that makes perfect sense.

[@one-wingedangel5107]

Edward Dillanger and yet even Uncle could come up with leads and pursue them with the boys, Molly doesn’t even bother to do much of anything to help the gang.

[@Latinadelreyxo]

Edward Dillanger although uncle had some bad leads, he actually tried to contribute. molly is like the only member of the gang who literally did nothing which is why most of the girls didn’t even like her

[@stanlytherobot4933]

@@Latinadelreyxo lmao even john when he was healing from the wolf attack was more helpful than her

[@skyeamber8679]

4:20 “so please... ᵖˡᵉᵃˢᵉ, excuse me”

[@nicholasmock5285]

This deserves more likes lol.

[@bl4ckm4gg0t2]

Oh hello, Arthur :D

[@Jokester1990-ri3jl]

Skye Amber that was adorable

[@sakuraistrashanduseless4082]

😂

[@THE_Mothmannn]

@@bl4ckm4gg0t2 Would you excuse us a moment?

[@LadyMisalein]

5:03 abigail is that uninterested in molly she pretends she can read :,)

[@deadlumbago2502]

lol

[@shesimpsforsammy]

In RDR1 Abigail tells John she can't read

[@LadyMisalein]

@@shesimpsforsammy she shows that in rdr2 too

[@shesimpsforsammy]

@@LadyMisalein yeah

[@shesimpsforsammy]

@Cardboard Cape probably

[@garroshhellscream7606]

Arthur: : I've mastered the ability of standing so incredibly still... that I become invisible to the eye.

[@miraculousmememaker2986]

Underrated comment

[@anarchy_grim9309]

Wish i could like twice

[@Satellite_Of_Love]

You can always tell a Milford man...

[@jdrmusic4923]

That’s from guardians of the galaxy vol.2

[@eagleplays5341]

cOpIeD

[@Killzoneguy117]

"Men only want one thing and its disgusting" "JUST ONE MORE SCORE"

[@pugpolice4323]

I JUST NEED TIME

[@Russian_polite_man]

We need more.......MUNEH!

[@nihaalsandim9986]

They just want their Annabelle to Live

[@luki907]

MANGOES!

[@markrios7748]

@@luki907 AHAHAHAHAHHA

[@aominee]

I don’t understand why Abigail is looking at a book, my girl can’t even read 😭😭

[@tylerrochester8496]

Maybe trying to learn

[@poplops1]

Tbh I think she was faking so she didn’t have to talk to Molly

[@danielyoung6778]

Like to imagine it's literally upside down.

[@joemraba7636]

I thought Hosea tried to teach her how to read?

[@fockingreat1125]

She was 100% pretending to read to avoid Molly, look at her face as soon as Molly mentions Dutch

[@LunarEntity]

Nobody was gonna replace Annabelle to him. Poor Molly tried, though.

[@danielleharrison5765]

Dutch loved Annabelle even though she is not in the game I know he loved her so much

[@Joke8372]

Dutch van der Linde gang No shit

[@micahstealyogirlbell8010]

@@danielleharrison5765 everyone dutch has been with is dead, Annabelle, Mrs Grimshaw and Molly, all dead.

[@erikallen3804]

I wonder how Dutch even met Molly. I thought that all we knew was that she abandoned her rich family in search of adventure.

[@alfidolan2258]

Is Annabelle is Dutch child doll??thats creepy

[@thisiscaseysaccount3242]

Even Arthur saw the mistreatments of molly by Dutch. I feel bad for that character cause no one cared for her and everyone casted her out.

[@stevevigilante9944]

@signoguns and she's a forgettable and usless character. If she cut out of the story, nothing would’ve changed.

[@dilloncoyne3283]

@@stevevigilante9944 actually she was used for the story when she lies about the bank robbery that was to make the gang blind to the fact it was micah thats why bill and javiar sided with dutch and micah so her death is really what let micah get away with ripping the gang apart.

[@Shy_SlowGuy]

@@dilloncoyne3283 heck even micah was less annoying than her

[@romanticallyhopelessrose]

No one liked her ( including me as well) bc she never contributed into helping and she never even talked to anyone about anything (besides Dutch) even if u talk to her as Arthur she’s not interested in talking to you except about her Dutch problems. She was in some ways more self centered than Dutch. ( Just not as crazy and not with all these grandiose ideas)

[@defectedclone6649]

She is pretty memorable to me. She was basically played by Dutch and I feel bad for her thinking she was living a high standard but in the end met her demise for being desperate.

[@vendetta3941]

I wish someone just treated Molly nice she needed it. She needed a friend, and Hosea needed one too.

[@sandramardell4800]

Hosea had friends though

[@sausage6136]

@@sandramardell4800 not many tho, Abigail, Arthur, John, dutch and Jack were all he really had

[@EXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX]

@@sausage6136 he had Sean and Lenny his relationship with Sean was rocky but he and sean actually became great friends lenny and hosea had the same interests and Lenny looked up to hosea

[@RemovingTheWingus]

@@sausage6136 he had more than that, even then, that's still a lot more than Molly ever had.

[@spacesadness8949]

molly was just there not doing much

[@masong695]

Dutch calling in Arthur for back up when flirting with Molly has me deceased ☠️ And then him proceeding to roast the shit out of Dutch instead makes it even better

[@aboullkhill5605]

What time?

[@toml4643]

@@aboullkhill5605 2:20

[@R0nald-_-]

Mr G whats your profile pic from ive seen it somewhere before

[@masong695]

@@R0nald-_- batman

[@R0nald-_-]

@@masong695 nigga obviously what youtube video

[@xmynationalanthemx]

They'd always be screaming at each other every morning in camp and I literally had no idea why and would just be like "DAYUM".

[@missbelled6700]

LOL seriously im just shaving like 'aight guess imma head out then'

[@janusceasar7851]

@@missbelled6700 Molly and Dutch: *start having emotional conversation* Orthor: Shore, Welp guess i see you later then

[@erikallen3804]

Makes me wonder how the freak Arthur slept in camp throughout Chapter 3.

[@lifeismeaningless5512]

Sounds like a typical day to me.

[@Jimothyjohns]

for me in Clemens, it would be when I get up in the morning, and falling asleep at night and it would be the same conversation about him flirting with Mary-Beth

[@bigbaldheadlol]

Abigail: “you don’t care about this nonsense, away with you” Arthur: 🧍‍♂️

[@Iliketurtles507]

Lol

[@deandrejenkins283]

😂😂

[@toddv3877]

Molly runs away* Arthur: “activating predator missile”

[@spiceyblake]

Lol

[@ohno.6516]

Arthur is the Maury cameraman

[@bigsmilereviews100]

underrated comment

[@anaflaviafrancesconi5829]

Molly had to deal with Dutch's narcissitic, gaslighting ass for months and ppl be acting like she's the bad guy here

[@lailasmorgue]

EXACTLY! HES A GASLIGHTERRR

[@Feber2001]

She deserved so much love, to be honest.

[@6ANUR34DT81S]

Gaslightin' Dutch! 🤠🤣

[@tashibalampkin8555]

It's one thing to be a lovesick puppy, but Molly don't work around the camp. She doesn't wash or help Grimshaw clean.

[@Christian-97]

@@tashibalampkin8555And? Lmfao

[@Weirdanimalboy]

This honestly gives so much more sad context to Molly’s death. Dutch’s indifference to her feelings made her so desperate to get back at Dutch, she lied just to gain satisfaction from making him feel betrayed. She gave up her life for a man who generally didn’t love her the way she wanted to be loved, as Abigail said. Dutch and Miss Grimshaw had a similar romantic relationship, but Susan’s understanding of Dutch’s affection for her, and how basic and limited it was, kept her from feeling any offense when it wore off. And even then, sticking around Dutch too long costed her life as well.

[@hannag4768]

Molly is honestly such an underrated character. Molly is the only one who hasn't grown up like them, she had it all and gave up it all for Dutch, of course she doesn't know how to help (or feel shame for certain things as according to her upbringing it's shameful). The other ones most likely treat her differently too because of her origins (Shaun does at one point at least) I don't think she's rude, or particularly bad, just missunderstood.

[@a_stinkyzoe2361]

Btw she didnt actually rat dutch out she just said she did to make him feel betrayed like you said 👍

[@hassetjifrebro8222]

Hanna G Yeah it is, but it’s also understanding why the rest of the gang push her away. Everyone else is working hard. All coming from shit parts of life. Sure her being from such a fine upbringing, made her not understand. But I too would have a hard time feeling for a stuck up brat in love with the gang leader, too good for work.

[@youhavereturned9970]

@@bernardcz92 dude neptune literally said that she didn't rat him out

[@itzskyz4531]

I didnt really like molly, she just complained to the other girls at camp and looked down on them and she did about as much work as uncle taking a nap

[@OtogakureNoShinobi]

Maaaaan the voice range of Dutch's actor is superb. He can do passionate speeches, corny flirting, or savage insults.

[@emmarosehurt]

This game is cast so well because all of the actors have this kind of range, in my opinion.

[@lillygarrett7470]

i do feel bad for Molly, i really do, she seems like a girl who has a good heart but she was blinded by one sided love

[@datsmaboaaah3797]

@Guishe She didn't deserve what happened to her though... Yeah she acted all fancy and wouldn't help that much in camp, but she wasn't that Bad honestly. Just sounds like a Lost girl to me

[@audellaroque4730]

@@datsmaboaaah3797 he has a Pepe avatar dude he clearly just hates women lmao

[@oussamazeamari6951]

yess

[@2Good2BeTrue45]

Should have never gotten with the bad boy/criminal. People are always enamored by what they can't have and are often delusional about what they can handle

[@KingFaisal2006]

​@@2Good2BeTrue45dutch played her.

[@BadGoodGuy]

What makes this so much funnier is that Arthur just stands there like a weirdo and listens to their conversations even when they tell him to go away, lmfao

[@kaikaitallah801]

Fr😂

[@IKnowImGayWhenISayThisBut]

Sounds like me

[@jesussaves21]

😂

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

"You quit screeching like a banshee and maybe I won't find it so interesting to listen in on"

[@agx8447]

It’s really depressing to think that molly gave up everything she had in Ireland just to fail at filling the void left in Dutch’s heart by Annabelle, and getting killed in the process

[@mb5358]

I think a lot of people forget that Dutch is almost twice Molly’s age, which would have created a power imbalance from the beginning. Not to mention he’s a very emotionally intelligent person who knows exactly how to play people to get what he wants. I’m sure at first Dutch was enamoured with Molly and likely manipulated her to some degree to leave her life of wealth and join him on the road. He just lost interest after that, because he never really loved her in the first place, but she definitely loved him. And it’s not like Molly could just leave Dutch and go back to her old life, her reputation among the upper class would have been ruined as soon as she left. If she fell out with Dutch her only option was facing the world on her own with no money or supports. Yeah she was snobby and never did any work, but that’s because Dutch never bothered to encourage her to learn any new skills. He never enforced her to work like the others which is how she got away with being lazy.

[@acidicali7776]

Yknow that’s basically what drove Dutch to “helping” Eagle Flies and his people. Those native Americans were naive and impressionable, probably like most of the gang at first. Dutch works best in relationships where he has power over them. Or yknow, thinks he has power, Micah played that part of him like a fiddle.

[@kentknightofcaelin4537]

I don't think she's quite that young, but otherwise I agree.

[@lucasmartinez5703]

+AcidicAli777 Yep Dutch is basically a cult leader.

[@andyinfante5547]

She betrayed the gang she didn’t love Dutch lol

[@lucasmartinez5703]

She never betrayed the gang. She lied to spite Dutch (and possibly kill herself).

[@thesecondunfairesteel1755]

"Just leave me alone!" - Molly Arthur: 🏃

[@CrypticSWLDN]

Read this at the perfect time 💀

[@CrypticHowl]

@@CrypticSWLDN hi cryptic...I'm cryptic 😂

[@CrypticSWLDN]

@@CrypticHowl Never thought we'd meet like this...wattup fellow Cryptic haha

[@CrypticHowl]

@@CrypticSWLDN hehe not much, you?

[@tedan28]

@@CrypticSWLDNsame

[@Slapnuts9627]

Molly is such a tragic character.

[@emperoralvis6559]

Most of them are. I’m pretty sure that’s a recurring theme with these characters

[@kiefferteefer]

@@emperoralvis6559 can’t agree more

[@MrTux-tw4ld]

Don't worry everyone Ms. Grimshaw gave her a 12 gauge hug to calm her down.

[@peachycamie1013]

Mr. Tux Oh that’s terrible but funny as sh*t 💀

[@rehtric7166]

Could have at least made a spoiler warning for others

[@jamesknight2952]

DHD Maze The games been out for more than a year if you get it spoilt thats your own problem

[@rehtric7166]

James Knight you never know there’s still people starting to play now and maybe wanna see these events that they missed and stumbled to this comment

[@jamesknight2952]

DHD Maze Well if they’re watching hidden dialogue videos without even starting the game then thats their own fault

[@mistercross9781]

Molly is suffering from what we in the NPD survivor community call a "discard". when a narcissist grows tired of someone, they literally just stop caring about said person, and at 3:48- thats the inital reaction. Its really sad because molly really didnt do anything wrong to dutch, she just had the misfortune of meeting a Narcissist 100+ years before it would be accepted as an actual disorder. Its sad because when that happens to you, You really dont know what to do about it. "is it my Fault?" "Why dont i deserve his love?" "He does really love me still, Right?" you can get super far into your head with it, and unfortunately molly becomes an alcoholic because of her experience. Its a very real thing, and its very hard to go through.

[@iwanttosleep6414]

I was going through the same thing during my play through and I related to her a lot in that sense. I felt so bad for her. I know she was lazy but she deserved better than what she got.

[@canadiangirl2207]

Molly deserve so much better. Dutches an asshole who did not appreciate her

[@elisabetta611]

Exactly this. My ex was the same way. Love bombing at first and then I was dropped like an old shoe bc I wouldn't hate a game I actually loved. (My ex expected me to support ALL their opinions without question...and for a while I was so besotted that I did) Questioned myself for YEARS. Ala "I must have done SOMETHING, surely no game is worth throwing away someone who loves you?" It was bad. Which is why Molly's fate really hit me hard.

[@alexiz0013]

Those last two argument scenes between them felt like I was watching my parents... hits so close to home. Narcissists leave chaos and broken hearts and minds in their wake.

[@Feber2001]

Well written comment👍

[@ThachNguyen-xn6zr]

It’s sad how Molly has enough encouragement to try to talk things out with Abigail and Arthur (Maybe others too) and they don’t feel sorry for her (Except for Arthur cause he got distracted by Uncle) and in the end she got drunk and shot + her body is burned and no grave at all.

[@MA-qf5gq]

i think people have told her that dutch does not love her but she just one of them people who askfor advice and when she dont like what she hears she is like fuck you, you dont know what you are talking about.

[@spiceyblake]

@@MA-qf5gq that’s exactly what she does to Abigail except for the fuck part

[@edgarallanpwned6666]

I believe the ladies bury her, there's some dialogue where they're mourning by a makeshift grave

[@2Good2BeTrue45]

You never supposed to fall for the bad boy types. She thought like every other female since the beginning of time.....she thought she could change him and the fact is, you cannot change anyone unless they want to change on their own. She played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. A person who makes decisions like that deserves no sympathy, they make their own hell

[@PantherIsa]

@@2Good2BeTrue45 That's kind of arrogant to say who deserves sympathy or not. There are far worse types than a spoiled, in love, and deluded girl. Showing sympathy just shows how we are not like them. Only with this comment you get to be worse than her, you should not say what others should feel or not for someone.

[@collinbrosnan2729]

Has anyone ever noticed that molly slept on the bed in Dutch’s tent while Dutch usually sat on the edge or slept on the chair outside of his tent? My god, no wonder Dutch was going insane...

[@erikallen3804]

I wonder how Dutch fell asleep in that chair every night. That chair is definitely not comfortable, and that sleeping position is no exception. I wonder where Strauss, Pearson, and maybe Charles sleep?

[@user-vn7xh4cu8v]

Erik Allen Charles just sleeps on a bed roll with some things behind him and coverage, I’m not sure about Strauss nor Pearson, but I’d take it they’d probably sleep in tents. I think most of the gang members just sleep on the ground and some sleep on beds, but I can’t imagine how uncomfortable it would be to sleep on the ground or in a chair like Dutch

[@threecheers5101]

Ewan mcshregg Strauss and Pearson Sleep in front of Strauss’s wagon / the medicine wagon, they sleep on mats like Charles. The rest of the gang (other than Arthur John and Molly / Dutch who have beds) sleep on rags / mats or on the ground around camp under the tents or by the wagons

[@gxs2542]

He shouldn't of lead her on and just kicked her out of his tent

[@luizmarinho6138]

Spend too much time without doxies and it messes with your mind

[@bigtime7144]

Somebody is talking They look at Arthur Arthur: I’m not here keep talking

[@juanjoseaguilar3668]

You are creepy as he is

[@Tiredsamaritan1941]

Arthur: If I stand completely still they can't see me

[@mrfin02]

Always the sneaky one

[@ohdang3833]

Arthur: You want some jellybeans? *eating noises intensify*

[@MT-uk9bk]

The way Abigail looks at Arthur at 5:13 is hilarious 🤣

[@thefricking5407]

"wtf are you still doing here"

[@gxkdykxiyx1985]

You don't strike me as an idiot...

[@skywalkingonsunshine1017]

"is she for real right now?"

[@laurajarpe1541]

that’s a deadly side eye lmao

[@milazinnia]

she simply didn't belong there. she's "high society", as karen says it. she's from a rich irish family, and wanted nothing from the extremely restricted life that was laid out for her before she was born. she wanted an adventure, and she sure got one. the whole point of rdr2 is to show the *deterioration* of the gang. the blackwater massacre was the beginning of the end. before that, before micah, everyone was happy. molly and dutch were a happy couple for a solid couple of years, at least that's what i got from it. dutch started to lose interest in molly as early as chapter 2, not even a quarter into the story, when he started hitting on mary-beth. who seemed to just play dumb, to probably avoid a mess that she knew would be inevitable. but of course by chapter 3, molly started to notice dutch moving his eyes in mary-beth's direction, more frequently. "i see you looking at her, dutch. you know who!". i think the whole point of molly o'shea (a partner of dutch in general) is another way for rockstar to show that dutch is slowly starting to show his real self and/or mentally deteriorating, hinting at the irrational trainwreck of a person he becomes as the story progresses. it subtly shows another side to him, one that will be present a lot more later on in the story, to a player that's only in chapter 2; when dutch seems completely level-headed. another take of mine is that just maybe, mary-beth was created for this purpose alone. a beautiful, younger girl who is as sweet as can be and loves literature? dutch had done this before, by replacing susan for annabelle, then after annabelle died at the hands of colm o'driscoll it was molly. (it's interesting that rockstar chose susan to shoot molly, i think this was on purpose). also, mary-beth holds absolutely no weight in the main story. tilly and karen both play substantial enough parts, albeit small. tilly deals with confrontations from her previous gang and participates in a few missions. karen takes part in a major bank robbery, also participates in a few missions, hooks up with sean, and being another representation of the gang deteriorating by drinking more as the story progresses, before presumably killing her. the only things mary-beth does is be eye candy to dutch (and many of y'all lol), aide in the destruction of dutch and molly's relationship, join arthur and sean on a stagecoach robbery side mission, give arthur information about a potential train robbery which arthur, john, charles and sean do later on, be lazy (for susan's standards), and to be a person for arthur to talk to in camp. we then find out in 1907 she becomes a successful romantic novelist. that's all she does in the whole game.

[@AqwDragulum]

I just wish she got more to do outside of being Dutch’s love interest. She’s easily the most forgettable member of the gang.

[@danielprado5881]

@@AqwDragulum its not even a competition. Who do you think is the second?

[@AqwDragulum]

Daniel Prado Jack’s dog

[@danielprado5881]

@@AqwDragulum cmon, thats cheating lol. For me its probably Mary Beth. Basically, all she does is be nice, and not much else. She also doesnt have much overall weight to the plot

[@joshpeck2775]

Daniel Prado didn’t Mary Beth find a train or bank and they robbed it in like chapter 2 or 3

[@lunardogs2416]

molly was such a perfect storm: a high and mighty, rich snob, insecure and jealous, manipulated by dutch, whos end goal is always to feel superior to others. poor woman was just a toy for him to make himself feel better. i always feel so sad when - spoiler alert - she dies at the start of chapter 6. obviously a suicide attempt on her part.

[@profoundending1390]

I'm not sure if suicide was in Molly's mind at that point. Deep down I don't believe she would have cared, but I think she told those lies because she wanted a reaction out of Dutch because she never had gotten one before. And I think she would hope Dutch wouldn't kill her and that would show her a sign that he still cared in a way. She was obviously drunk at that point too and wasn't in her right mind. Had she not been drunk who knows what would have been said differently.

[@slavicvasenin6685]

Suiside or not her hopelessness was above all and she just wanted for someone to shoot her

[@tylerhalloran7018]

Jeez Dutch was emotionally abusive....

[@emperoralvis6559]

That’s what you choose to criticize him for?

[@photina262]

@@emperoralvis6559 it’s a valid statement.

[@emperoralvis6559]

@@photina262 oh I know. I just found it funny that he brings up the manipulation instead of the murdering

[@kentknightofcaelin4537]

​@@emperoralvis6559 it's what this video is about though. Now go barbecue somewhere else.

[@uwu-uv4mg]

Not even to just Molly. To John and Arthur too

[@leepicbaconman1553]

2:33 Dutch: What shall i compare thee to? Molly: You tell me *dotch* Dutch: *ARTHUR* 😏 Molly:...

[@JG-Games97]

"How you been, Dotch?" "I been restin'." "Can I come in?" "I'm still kinda restin'."

[@melodicsatisfactionproductions]

In Chapter 2 Dutch never sleeps because Molly takes his bed. He just sits there, all night, unable to sleep So yeah, I think that makes the line unintentionally hilarious

[@peachyblossoms8499]

@@melodicsatisfactionproductions lol I did wonder how Dutch sleeps when molly takes his bed

[@mihirvd01]

"Dotch" 😂😂😂

[@nihilanth2705]

They could share the bed, I’ve seen two people fit in smaller beds. Oh well it’s game logic

[@freddym99]

Dutch and Molly: _Having an intimate conversation_ Arthur: 🧍‍♂

[@deadlumbago2502]

2:17 rdr2 alternative ending the camp takes fire

[@dinorex3464]

The best part of this is that Abigail states more than once that she doesn't know how to read but when Molly approaches her she just gets one of Jacks' books out and starts pretending to read just so she can leave he alone.

[@user-en7rr2jt1n]

What’s sad is author tells Susan in a mission “I remember when you were number one” meaning Dutch must’ve dropped her when a younger prettier women came around Damn forgot about this comment, thx for the likes and I love the replies, I enjoy seeing what other players have to say about rdr2

[@johnmarston8753]

She dropped her for Annabelle I guess

[@seanmcguire4159]

John Marston hows jack

[@user-en7rr2jt1n]

John Marston yeah, he had a rebound after Annabelle died which was Susan, then molly, then his eyes wandered and he began liking Mary-Beth. He never loved any of them, he wanted Annabelle back

[@johnmarston8753]

@@seanmcguire4159 The boy doesn't talk that much, he lacks that "joy" you had

[@mase5995]

@@user-en7rr2jt1n I thought Susan was first, then Annabelle and then Molly.

[@leenixx5931]

6:30 "I hope you drop down dead!"

[@Rakiael07]

Very subtle, Rockstar.

[@evolutionmax9791]

*Imagine in RDR3 we going to see Arthur start conversations by spying on people lol*

[@pugachan9928]

what if in rdr3 we are using a different character and we see Arthur nosing around like us.

[@sean7940]

Puga Chan hopefully Mac Callander we play as

[@alexanderfrangie5767]

I’m interested in learning more about the Callander brothers and Jenny but if they want to (and they don’t need to) stick with the Redemption story Davey and Mac wouldn’t work. They are described as vicious bastards by Charles. One couldn’t save the other as they both died around the same time one die from a gut shot the other was shot and later tortured. I think the third game may abandon the redemption title and either focus on another game in a completely new map or Focus on Dutch Van Der Linde and the creation and the beginning of the end of the gang. Show us the Blackwater Massacre at the end. maybe they will add in real location like Chicago, Reno, Ohio but make it so they can’t be travelled back to like Ludendorff in GTAV I think that’s want most fans want any way and maybe the epilogue would be the creation and fall of Dutch’s gang in Cochinay

[@sean7940]

Alexander Frangie considering how much they talk about places like Ohio and how they mention characters like Colms brother, Annabelle, the Callanders, Jenny etc it kinda hints at seeing them people in the future

[@alexanderfrangie5767]

Grammar Police Ohio is where Dutch and Hosea do their first robbery and Chicago or somewhere in Illinois is where they find John Marston so they would have to do something with those locations.

[@mariemorgan7759]

First time I have seen these conversations before! Arthur is so nosey,but I love him☺️

[@bluerobot8543]

@lee turton oh wow haha

[@imadrifter]

Dutch: Arthur, I've been noticing you following Molly and me around the camp, the past few weeks...

[@Satellite_Of_Love]

"Only when I was drunk. I thought she was LENNNNYY!"

[@hannahmarie1155]

@@Satellite_Of_Love hahaha that's a classic 😂

[@stillcupid]

3:44 this conversation in particular really breaks my heart.. I know she didn't really help the camp at all but she was used to a different kind of life, and she left it all for a man that in the end only saw her as eye-candy and nothing more.

[@chucksneed371]

"Ahhhhhmmm always listening duhtch." 👁👃👁 👄

[@spencerdevlinhoward]

5:36 Abigail glancing at Arthur like "can you believe this shit?"

[@OctaviaMealody]

7:41. Dutch gave Arthur those "you see this?" eyes.

[@rubenfajardo7064]

Molly walks away in heartbreak and sadness Arthur: "LOOK OUT MOLLY"

[@Feber2001]

Arthur: "Look out, Molly." Then proceeds to give her a hug.

[@LIBERTYANDFREEDOMFORALL384]

Dutch manipulated Molly he was a good person and cared about her. But then when it was convenient for him he showed her his true self and stopped caring for her which then caused her to see that he was manipulating her which then drove her mad.

[@seanmcguire4159]

Are you still a horrible father that wants to kill Abigail and try to cheat on her

[@leone41ll]

Ye because everything is the man's fault. It couldn't be that she sort unrequited love ? No no

[@morganrakes4184]

@@leone41ll Then he shouldn’t have acted like he cared for her and constantly disregard her when she wants to make the relationship work. At least she tried, Dutch more or less mentally broke up with her without telling her. Meaning she wasn’t able to move on like she could have and instead kept her around while constantly shaming literally anything she did or said.

[@leone41ll]

@@morganrakes4184 Your first statement is a contradiction. Regardless, go easy on the conclusions, U have no idea about the origin of their relationship. RDR3 will hopefully explore it. Then we can conclude.

[@goosebump91]

@@leone41ll Nobody said anything about it always being the man's fault. Why so triggered

[@luizmarinho6138]

This really hits close home to me, because my parents had a very similar relationship. My mother wanted love and attention, but my father ignored her most of the time. And even though he really was cheating on her, he responded to her suspicion with anger. That said... Molly's accent is so hilarious that I can't take her seriously most of the time. "Youknowhouuh!"

[@faridagasiyev7042]

Sorry to hear that

[@knightr0685]

Sorry to hear that ×2

[@knurlgnar24]

I'm sorry Luiz. And I'm sorry for your mother.

[@kittyk1014]

I really like the Cromwell comment Dutch makes around the 3 minute mark. I know he was probably just referring to Cromwell being puritanical but he's also speaking to an Irishwoman - she'd swoon at the sound of him talking shit about Oliver Cromwell. Really nice detail and an example of how at his best, Dutch knows exactly what to say in order to work people.

[@lucasmartinez5703]

Just like a cult leader.

[@theskyeisblue6802]

Molly deserved so much better, not only was she manipulated. But she was also basically the female Bill of the camp. She tried to fit in and be nice but everyone was just a jerk to her. Even though her and Karen fought a lot you can clearly see that Karen realized how much Molly's been through in one of their last encounters at camp. She even had a whole argument with Grimshaw calling her a murderer and defending Molly

[@shoeskehigashoekata9242]

9:14 DON'T tell this to molly

[@inkedhigh]

Poor Molly. I didn't expect anything wrong to go with her but I saw how she mentally went down and I just sighed

[@zxhki]

“You don’t fool me, DOTCH!”

[@DannyMNL]

7:47 That's the wrong end of the cigar there buddy...

[@LadyMisalein]

Annyway i feel sorry for molly...i liked her

[@Jokester1990-ri3jl]

jake english me too

[@Alexa-hf7pb]

overkill357 moly didn’t rat them out, they say so later on

[@failedabortion1493]

Dawn Is coming Tbh she was still lazy as hell. Even uncle did more then her

[@Alexa-hf7pb]

Admiral Ackbar she was a stuck up, spoilt bitch who constantly bitched about everything

[@SeanLake777]

Abra Cafuckin dabra I really don’t like her..

[@nadja9055]

0:30 breath Dutch breath😂

[@chief5604]

6:11 Molly: You don't fool me, Dutch! Dutch: Is that sOoOo, miss?

[@LastRenegade]

"You're delusional. Again." I don't know why, but Dutch's delivery of that line always cracks me up.

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

Dutch calling someone else delusional is just so amazing, isn't it?

[@FarCryfanLove]

5:53 Arthur: “Look out Molly” Abigail: “Okay” Me: “What”

[@corey-bird3489]

Molly is one of my favorite characters, they don’t listen enough.

[@corey-bird3489]

Miss Buddha In fact, I felt the most sorry for her out of anybody.

[@brandonleo3723]

She’s the most innocent gang member besides jack

[@corey-bird3489]

Brandon Leo You’ve nailed it, with the adult instincts Jack wouldn’t feel.

[@exemplar7205]

i love how Molly is the only one in camp who tells you the conversation is private but is also the only one who tries to reach out to Arthur for support about Dutch.

[@slavicvasenin6685]

At the begining of one of the chapter 3 mission's she confesses her love for Dutch to Arthur, and we do not see her until chapter 6 during the missions

[@sheschun]

Arthur is like Maury’s security cameras backstage, he follows everyone around for the tea 😂

[@mollyoshea4857]

I loved you Dutch !

[@Jerryorantex-zk6lj]

Sorry molly but Dutch doesn’t really love anyone but himself.

[@someguy-bv3il]

@@Jerryorantex-zk6lj he loved arthur and you can't convince me otherwise

[@erdrickortega6722]

Molly was the only one who called Arthur out on his lurking lmao

[@gorilla-grip-pussy-support7976]

Dutch was straight up abusing Molly. It’s painful to watch. Imaging abandoning your home country for all this.

[@nuggets9430]

Her family was rich too apparently, winch makes it way more sadder she wasted her life on Dutch

[@masterjustin2246]

Dutch was the example of being laidback in 1899

[@emmarosehurt]

I mean, I saw him break a lady’s skull but go off I guess 😂

[@masterjustin2246]

@@emmarosehurt Okay, and what does that have to do with a unpopular opinion?

[@Kalsimir]

John and Abigail’s romance develops entirely in reverse to Dutch and Molly’s. John slowly opens up more and accepts his role as a family man, while Dutch becomes more and more spiteful towards Molly and neglects her until she reaches a breaking point. I’d say Abigail is certainly more likable than Molly to begin with since she actually contributes to the camp but it’s just a fun little detail I noticed

[@ThePatriots010304]

RDR3 is just gonna be 60 hours of watching camp conversations.

[@beevidzz4951]

3:22 *HI MOLLY*

[@thenordicgreekman8884]

Abigail is actually taller than Molly?

[@brandonleo3723]

Abigail is tall she’s only about two inches shorter than John who’s probably about 5’10-6’0

[@shesimpsforsammy]

@@brandonleo3723 Abigail is actually 5'7 and Molly is 5'5

[@deaneyle3940]

Actually Molly is 5'3 or 5'4 (According to reddit) and Abigail is 5'7 so that's why you see Abigail is much taller than Molly

[@brandonleo3723]

SKK G I wasn’t insanely far off

[@brandonleo3723]

Also why is Abigail so tall for the 18/1900s

[@Mantisos09]

4:46 Molly: **Walking** Arthur: 👀

[@seanmcguire4159]

Lenny I’m having trouble reading the comments

[@Mantisos09]

@@seanmcguire4159 That's terrible, Sean

[@seanmcguire4159]

Lenny Summers it’s just silly words on a paper

[@samulalimo6615]

8:56 “LIARS! Youre all liars!!” Arthur: *Defuse* “I was only messing around.”

[@arrye7790]

6:42 is serious, I know, but the 'start singing' in the corner is sending me. It's as if Arthur is resisting the urge to sing along to Karen and them singing while watching Molly have a breakdown

[@Ulysses-]

5:00 I thought Abigail can’t read

[@galilalexandro4793]

She just looking at the words 😂

[@galilalexandro4793]

GrayWolf2036 you mean hosea?

[@brandonleo3723]

Ahmed Dulbah she may have been trying to learn

[@Caupolicanus]

I Think Abigail Just Take a look at the Drawings of the books :vvvv

[@dejavu8477]

thats the same when people see orther people they know and they start just scrowling on their phone, just to be not seen by that person, Abigail just tries to end the conversation.

[@radical-dude]

Poor Molly, Leaves The Noblity Of Ireland Just For Dutch. And She Ends Up Getting Rejected Many Ways.

[@claytonchapman2228]

And most importantly shot

[@radical-dude]

@@claytonchapman2228 Exactly, but it was already known that he still loved Annabelle

[@claytonchapman2228]

@@radical-dude absolutely

[@1500Chevy]

0:10 EVEN ARTHUR SAID IT WASNT FLAT!😂

[@universal_wisdom3416]

Mary-Beth would’ve been my choice for Arthur’s girl if Sadie never showed into the picture.

[@wagglycarp4708]

Mary-Beth kinda cute not gonna lie

[@universal_wisdom3416]

Waggly Carp When she asked Arthur to dance when Sean got rescued? I was like OKAY Arthur GET SOME

[@wagglycarp4708]

@@universal_wisdom3416 haha

[@marieelena]

I think that Charlotte was perfect for Arthur, she accepted him with all his good and bad, it's a shame he didn't stay with her. Mary Linton just wanted Arthur when she had problems for him to solve,he had to live his life in her terms. Mary Beth was more of a little sister to Arthur,she cared about him but in never got to any romantic point.

[@universal_wisdom3416]

marie elena 100% agree, I haven’t yet finished my playthrough with Charlotte so I don’t have the full impact yet. But Mary Linton is a joke and honestly the least attractive of them all.

[@obamavrat671names]

4:26 Oh, hi Mark moment

[@jaysong9843]

There are 3 Irish descendants: Molly, Sean and probably Kieran Duffy.

[@lucasmartinez5703]

And they all died horribly. Hell I think Seth in the first game was Irish and he's an emaciated grave robber. Rockstar is not a big fan of the Irish lol.

[@slavicvasenin6685]

What, Kieran Duffy is Irish?

[@anthonyspitery6332]

Molly is one of the few characters that genuinely has some real reactions when Arthur is snooping around her private conversations

[@laurajarpe1541]

Dutch is a narcissist, so it makes sense that his relationship with Molly isn’t a good one. What we see in camp of her blowing up at him is honestly probably planned by Dutch, we don’t see the way he speaks to her in private so when he brings up one small thing it can be enough to set her off. That’s how he looks like the cool, calm, and collected one. She was the one that had to sacrifice for him, he didn’t really lose anything to be with her. She’s naïve, and even though people tell her that Dutch isn’t good for her, she can’t listen because the hot and cold aspect with him is addictive. He’s also so impersonal with her, calls her Miss O’Shea to remind her that she isn’t really anything to him. Dutch calls everyone son as well to remind them they’re under him. It’s deliberate. I know I’m psychoanalyzing video game characters, but their relationship is meticulously thought out by the game developers and worth talking about. I think she’d have had more sympathy from players if she did more work around camp.

[@alexiz0013]

So true. And yes to that last bit about psychoanalyzing video game characters. I hate how some people get bothered by that, as if it's somehow "cringey" to acknowledge and discuss the very work and nuance that was put into the characterizations by the creative team. Understanding psychology is key to good character-driven writing; therefore, it's a part of appreciating and analyzing the final product - whether it's a video game or a film. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@lucasmartinez5703]

I still have sympathy for her because she clearly isn't supposed to be running with them. She's not like them at all and she sticks out so much. I suspect she became aware of this after some time which might explain why she starts having mental breakdowns by chapter 4. She probably felt very alone despite being around so many people.

[@johnaustin209]

Overthinker..

[@laurajarpe1541]

@@johnaustin209 this is a game where they programmed the horse’s balls to shrink in cold weather, you think a nuanced relationship between characters is above them?

[@johnaustin209]

@@laurajarpe1541 Big deal.

[@leighgillen7615]

I love how in the first seen,when dutch comes back molly giggles and they are all simping and like 1 second later they just sit not talking to eachother

[@CrypticHowl]

Yeah, it felt like I was suddenly dragged into the sims for a moment 😆

[@deadanxiety1584]

molly: having a conversation with anyone arthur:🧍🏻‍♂️

[@suckmydick4493]

they had to of done thing they so confident when fliting

[@codydoxey2497]

I've always felt bad about Molly and now I'm even more sad for her. Everyone treated her so badly. She didn't deserve what happened to her.

[@SsageOne]

Dutch:”Hehehehe” Molly:”heeheehee *inhales* 😫😩” Arthur:🧍🏻‍♂️

[@peachycamie1013]

... that giggle and breathing though at 0:47, she seems like she’s enjoying herself a LITTLE to much.. -cof-

[@aboullkhill5605]

Damn never noticed that

[@CrypticHowl]

When you got a guy like Dutch I ain't surprised 😁

[@OCanalDeVideoGames]

1:38 FINALLY FOUND A VIDEO WHERE SOMEONE SERMONS AT ARTHUR FOR WATCHING THE CONVERSATION

[@RaytheGrayt]

Best summarized as, "Blinded by love." Seen a lot of people lose their minds over it, only in her case it wasn't just her mind but her life.

[@Emerly808]

I feel so bas for molly. She didn’t deserve that

[@oc1omaen]

Colm O’Driscoll: “You always loved the ladies, Dutch Van Der Linde…”

[@aidanrogers4438]

Dutch: ‘Shall I compare thee to one last big score?’

[@nadillasakinah950]

You know, if Molly has done her share at camp, like maybe help out then maybe Dutch might see her differently? I mean, she could tend to the horses, wash clothes but nope. Just Dutch!

[@labrat5262]

She's a snob.

[@RosieJonesRules]

Dutch didn't dislike her because she didn't do work. He was just going nuts and needed his space

[@melvinbailey5177]

I think Dutch used Molly. Even if Dutch convinced himself otherwise at the time, Dutch used her like he used Eagle Flies, Arthur, and so many others.

[@shotto_z4790]

More like the other members of the gang, dutch was gonna see her the same way regardless, just a piece of meat

[@danielleharrison5765]

@@melvinbailey5177 No He Actually Loved Arthur This Is Micah's Fault

[@asurxh]

Molly - runs away Arthur - chases her down like a Maury cameraman

[@Centurion-ph7gk]

As molly and dutches relationship grows cold. Abigail and Johns grows stronger.

[@HalftimeBackflip]

Hey that sh* was beautiful

[@oukahershel2931]

Okay but Abigail laid it out for Molly and told right at her face that Dutch didn't love her the way she wanted him to. That's kind of her to look out for Molly because Abigail understands things better and is more mature towards things like love and relationship ever since she had Jack