Dutch Mantell Shoots on Jim Herd

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Dutch Mantell: "ME and Jim Herd NEVER Got Along!"
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[@realcoach2023]

Did anyone realize wrestling was not Pizza Hut when they hired Jim Herd? Lol

[@CannedHam2479]

lmaoooooooo

[@ShadowAngel-lt8nw]

Oooh look at hte clueless mark over here, who doesn't know that Jim Herd worked for Vince McMahon Sr. and was a producer for the famous Wrestling at the Chase show. You also probably still believe the Spartacus story is real, huh?

[@CannedHam2479]

@@ShadowAngel-lt8nw Pizza Hut DOES what Genesis DON'T!!!!

[@Nazzlover38]

Maybe they thought they get a deal on pizza when they signed him.

[@mider9996]

Bro they hired anyone it seems

[@0tt0z]

The Ding Dongs were a good memory for me because when they came on me and my dad would laugh. Once the one guy was ringing the bell and it fell to the floor and i thought my dad would piss himself laughing at them.

[@meekrob]

Ding Dongs vs. Skyscrapers is one of the greatest squash matches of all time.

[@whisperienced]

I just watched a Paul Orndorff vs Dutch match from 1990 WCW. Simple match and nothing flashy but the ring psychology was great.

[@jasonhale3998]

The roster in wcw in 1992 was amazing

[@ryanboman8211]

Jim Herd was an executive at KPLR-TV Channel 11 in St. Louis, which produced 'Wrestling at the Chase' alongside NWA President Sam Muchnik. So, he had a background in wrestling and television, albeit mostly through his association with The St. Louis Wrestling Club and station owner Ed Koplar. It's also why Herd picked the real city of Belleville, IL ( a nearby suburb of STL) as the hometown of the fictional team, The Ding Dongs. ("bell"... get it?) And yes, before joining WCW, he did become an executive for Pizza Hut, NOT a store manager or anything like that. I believe he was a regional VP for the chain in the midwest area. So it wasn't like he was in there, flipping pies or making deliveries.

[@FerretJohn]

Not quite, Herd was Sales Manager as a station (KPLR) that happened to have a hot wrestling show, as far as I know he never had any direct involvement with Muchnik.

[@sullyb23511]

@@FerretJohn According to Jim Ross he asked Muchnik for advice when he was running WCW. That is like asking Benny Goodman advice on playing rock and roll, and I don't mean that as an insult to either Muchnik or Ross.

[@ShadowAngel-lt8nw]

@@FerretJohn Station Manager and he was involved in the production of Wrestling at the Chase. In the early 60's he also worked for Vince McMahon Sr. for a short while producing his shows.

[@ryanboman8211]

@@FerretJohn - With all due respect, sir. Larry Matysik was a friend of mine, and I knew from when I was very young. I actually wrote a eulogy for him on behalf of his best friend. All families involved are associated with mine. So I am only speaking from what I remember that I was told years ago. Herd did have some involvement with the show at times, but as you stated, was not really a factor in any of its success. That's what I was told as a teenager when he was President of WCW.

[@Matt-cr4vv]

Yes he had experience in the sense of being an executive for a station that produced a wrestling show. And he was an executive of Pizza Hut in the sense that he had a friend who owned a region of Pizza Hut stores and he ran the region for his friend. So he had some experience in the sense of he’d helped out out a show and yes he wasn’t a guy flipping pizzas or something but either way he wasn’t anywhere near qualified to be in the role that he was in at WCW. Producing a wrestling show while working at a network is nothing close to being qualified to be involved in things like creative, managing a roster or negotiating their pay and the like. He had invoclement sure but zero wrestling experience in the things that are most important in wrestling like the creative of the show and managing the roster.

[@garethcullen9604]

FUN FACT: Herd is currently a shift runner at the dominos pizza in Times Square. He works Monday to Thursday, as well as Saturday nights.

[@BigDave0908]

J.R. is the only human I ever heard say anything about Herd that was even remotely non-negative.

[@gregorylevi1826]

Yeah I can't think of anyone else either.

[@bradpaton3927]

Kevin Nash said that "Oz" was a gimmick created by Virgil Runnels.

[@louio]

It's Dusty Rhodes you fuccin mark

[@gtf2584]

@@louio hahaha

[@messey12]

I didn't know who Jim Herd was till a couple of years ago when I started listening to Corny, but since then I've grown to loathe the man after hearing everything he's done.

[@louio]

Conrad Thompson did an interview with Jim Herd, as a Cornette guy he's seems like a decent human being.

[@ChrisHopkinsBass]

I loved Dutch’s commentary on Worldwide. Sky showed a whole batch of 1990 shows in the early 2000s

[@alpollard4784]

Just imagine how bad it would it have been had Herd been the CEO of Pizza Inn before landing that position.

[@jamesoldham9237]

We had a Pizza Inn where I lived at here in Kentucky,we liked it better than pizza hut

[@rondoughhowell6442]

Well Herd thought that he could run WCW like Vince McMahon runs WWF but WCW and WWF had 2 different styles back then and I think that Jack Petridge was the one that brought Herd to WCW not Jim Barnett

[@gregorylevi1826]

An also WWF & WCW also had different kinds of fans.

[@adamfein4970]

"Cornette hated that son of a bitch", sums up and validates Corny's take on Jim Herd. We've done the Mr. McMahon gimmick, where is the arrogant idiot boss Jim Herd character in wrestling?

[@meekrob]

You've forgotten Dixie Carter already?

[@adamfein4970]

​@@meekroblol, I tried to.

[@gregorylevi1826]

Yeah he really messed up handling Ric Flair. I guess no one told Herd that Ric was the only reason Ted Turner bought NWA in the first place. Turner wanted Flair, Herd chased him away and didn't even have sense to get the belt back. 😒 😕

[@jasonhale3998]

Beetlejuice was an awesome wrestler made it big eddie Guerrero in mexico

[@FerretJohn]

It was Ted Turner that brought Jim Herd in, Turner had just bought WCW from the Crocketts and hired Herd as the GM. Herd was a decent administrator but he had no idea how to run a wrestling show, closest he ever got to wrestling was that he once was Sales Manager for a TV station in St. Louis that happened to have a hot wrestling show, he sought to turn WCW into what he viewed as pro wrestling, the over-the-top cartoon characters that the WWF was showing, not understanding that WCW was supposed to be the alternative. He made the Ding Dongs which got over like a lead balloon, he proposed the Hunchbacks (two guys with prosthetic humps on their back, their gimmick being that their shoulders couldn't be pinned) that got shot down, he drove off a number of wrestlers including the Road Warriors and the Midnight Express. But his biggest issue and eventual downfall came with Ric Flair, he thought Flair was passe and wanted him gone as Champion, even though Flair was their biggest draw by far, he wanted someone big and muscular like Luger holding the belt, at one time he wanted Flair to shave off his signature blond locks, dress up as a Roman Gladiator, and call himself Spartacus. After awhile Herd fired Flair but failed to reclaim the world title which Flair was holding, allowing the Nature Boy to show up in the WWF with the belt, giving WCW a massive black eye, Herd was fired a month later.

[@rondoughhowell6442]

No it was Jack Petridge whatever his name that brought Herd because their wives were best friends

[@ShadowAngel-lt8nw]

Spoken like a truly clueless mark, who sucks up everything Meltzer pukes out. No, the Hunchbacks were never planned to be a thing and no, Flair was never supposed to be Spartacus. Spartacus was a gimmick thrown around back then, because WCW was forced to do all sorts of dumb movie stuff after TBS purchased classic movies and got into movie production (hence why Robocop and Oz happened) Besides, the head booker at the time was Ole Anderson, not Jim Herd. Herd didn't like Flair and thought he made too much money. That was all. The reason why he didn't like Flair,was because he would constantly throw tamper tantrums when he was told to drop a belt or do a job. Get a grip and inform yourself instead of remaining a clueless idiot. It's embarassing.

[@kenterminateddq5311]

I think Mr. Hughes is the only wrestler who LIKES Jim Herd. I would like Mick Foley talk about Herd in his podcast someday.

[@MaddRapper11203]

Jim Herd destroyed WCW Wrestling!!

[@CannedHam2479]

Jim Herd was NEVER Fair to Flair!!!

[@roobear78]

everyones wwf contract was the same $1500 guarantee back then with titan, 10 shots at $150 a shot and the terms were mostly the same as well for everyone it was vinces standard contract,many stars talk about it

[@scottslaughter6309]

You got to give it to Ole he put Dutch in there as a commentator. And he did it on Dutch's word that he could do it.

[@meekrob]

Art Barr was Beetlejuice in Portland before he worked for WCW, so you can't blame Herd for that one.

[@Nazzlover38]

Robocop was a bad idea and so was the Black Scorpion storyline never worked.

[@JRWeezy84]

That 90 day or any day compete clause means jack... they cant legally do that at all and thats why they pay u that time now... they know.

[@kenterminateddq5311]

10:21 I agree with Dutch's opinion on the Maximum Male Models. Without Maxine Dupri (or even Max.....Du...pri), the Maximum Male Models will be a NOTHING tag team.

[@JW666]

Jim Cornette basically hates everyone nowadays =P

[@skyatollah2skyharder276]

Yeah, but at least he has justification in regards to Jim Herd.

[@insupportofjunhado]

Yes, if they pay you the 90 days obviously they can say no compete. If they give you benefits which last the 90s, they can say no compete. If you're a contracted employee basically, they can say 90 day no compete. If you're an independent contractor though, no, the no compete is bullshit. I don't even know why that had to be stated more than once. If you've got no dates for an independent contractor, well you wanted independent contractors, deal with it!

[@stevewarren4813]

Hird's wife was best friends with the then head of WcW.

[@rondoughhowell6442]

Jack Petridge I think

[@creoleDJ]

Dutch talking about how unfair those “non-compete” clauses. I’m not a Joe Biden fan (not a Trump fan, either), and I don’t like talking politics…but I gotta give the devil his due for the recent push to abolish these crappy clauses! Pro wrestling is one of the worst at that & needs to end!

[@williammitchell4417]

Big question... Who did??? I've already heard what happened with Corny!!!

[@MrNatural73]

👍👍

[@squadfathercrypto]

Rasslin' is serious bidniss

[@nicktaylor2657]

Maximum Male Models are so bad they tried to get LA Knight to led them by changing his name and pretending to be another Then he said screw it and went back to being LA Knight Good move 😏

[@jasonuerkvitz7611]

What you worked at pizza hut are you serious here run this wrestling company

[@dannystaton5386]

Dutch rulz

[@richardwolcott5567]

Font gold back James just say what you feel.