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@billykash491
@billykash491 6 ай бұрын
As an african, I know Switzerland is heaven for our leaders. 😅
@MyLoganTreks
@MyLoganTreks 6 ай бұрын
And your leaders also love loans from China, selling your future generations into financial slavery.
@acerrome9672
@acerrome9672 6 ай бұрын
..., and all corrupt Politicians. From the Philippines it's the same. The People / Citizens are the ones Paying for Liars called leaders of country.
@SMILYSUNFLOWER
@SMILYSUNFLOWER 6 ай бұрын
Not our problem. Get better leaders.
@jma2570
@jma2570 6 ай бұрын
You are so right.
@vaughnreedjr6592
@vaughnreedjr6592 6 ай бұрын
Your country didn't ever have great leaders. ​@@SMILYSUNFLOWER
@NightWatchOriginal
@NightWatchOriginal 6 ай бұрын
London and Switzerland have fostered an environment that facilitates the laundering of money. They have established an infrastructure that shields and promotes these financial wrongdoers.
@rambleon2838
@rambleon2838 6 ай бұрын
Indeed, the Formation House (now the London Office) leak exposed that company which registered and operated companies for clients included organized crime groups, state-owned oil companies, and fraudulent banks. The investigations revealed the firm ran a web of companies registered in Hong Kong, Cyprus, the British Virgin Islands and Pakistan helped clients avoid anti-money laundering rules and had created banks in The Gambia in an attempt to create a tax haven. According to The Times, there was no evidence that Formations House did anything illegal but their investigation highlighted worrying vulnerabilities in the UK’s defenses against money laundering.
@FreeSoul76
@FreeSoul76 6 ай бұрын
What about Dubai
@user-xedwsg
@user-xedwsg 6 ай бұрын
yes, and so? nothing will happen. lets enjoy the show and try to make more money for ourselves as well
@VINLAND_777
@VINLAND_777 6 ай бұрын
Can you elaborate on how Switzerland has „created“ such an environment? People tend to think, Switzerland or Swiss citizens would profit from it while completely ignoring that the reasons for foreigners to deposit money here is the security and trustability in Switzerland and that is has been safe and stable for many decades. Yes, the possibility to deposit foreign money here and keeping most information secret was also a reason in the past. But the Swiss voted to abandon the bank secrecy principle and this is no longer a reason to deposit money here. Same rules apply here as in most other western democracies since then. But again, it‘s about security and stability.
@planet-karma
@planet-karma 6 ай бұрын
So does Canada. Authorities here turn a blind eye as so many of the rich and powerful benefit and it helps to drive industries like real estate and construction. Most of the banks do not follow federal laws when it comes to prevention or reporting. The ‘Vancouver Model’ of money laundering (implemented throughout the country) attracts criminals from all over the world.
@taspats8701
@taspats8701 6 ай бұрын
Imagine how much of russian money is in Dubai...
@nirajshrestha5621
@nirajshrestha5621 6 ай бұрын
It's definitely less than what Swiss bank has.
@fatteebaddee
@fatteebaddee 6 ай бұрын
Imagine Dragons
@vondahe
@vondahe 6 ай бұрын
The problem with Dubai is that they have nothing of interest. It’s just rich people with poor taste and some malls. Switzerland has beauty, culture, history and tradition, none of which money can buy.
@williamelewis464
@williamelewis464 6 ай бұрын
Russian money? Nah, try the drug cartels
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
​@@CarpeDiem13xyes switzerland did impose more sanctions than the EU. do you have any evidence there's still this type of money here? it's only peanuts. a few millions nothing more.
@michaelgroe2074
@michaelgroe2074 6 ай бұрын
If it isn't in Switzerland or went thru London to some tiny islands it is probably in Dubai...
@SweetChicagoGator
@SweetChicagoGator 4 ай бұрын
@@michaelgroe2074 Maybe Dubai, but definitely in the Caribbean safe havens, like the Cayman Islands and other Islands. $$$ billions go to dummy corporations there ! Nice racket if you can get it !
@Livin-In-a-Box
@Livin-In-a-Box 4 ай бұрын
Cyprus is even more likely.
@marcux83
@marcux83 6 ай бұрын
Switzerland is so neutral not even ethic considerations are affecting their business decisions 😂
@ComradeCatpurrnicus
@ComradeCatpurrnicus 6 ай бұрын
That's capitalism and greed, no other considerations, just money and power. The fact that Switzerland partakes in such immoral and destructive dealings shows they're assuredly not neutral, just less visible in who they support, authoritarians and the ultra rich.
@MyLoganTreks
@MyLoganTreks 6 ай бұрын
Not neutral just follow the money...
@movement2contact
@movement2contact 6 ай бұрын
​@@Wisteria__Lane Good luck with that...
@xothehost123
@xothehost123 6 ай бұрын
I mean, that's exactly what's being neutral is.
@oldowleye3161
@oldowleye3161 6 ай бұрын
@@Wisteria__Lane … like being a safe haven for mafias, drug trafic, murderors, dictatores,fraudster, tax evaders, oligarcs?
@Alex-pr6zv
@Alex-pr6zv 6 ай бұрын
The Swiss lawyer complains that the sanction is in English - not an official language in Switzerland - and therefore incomprehensible, but has a sign on his desk that reads "Pay your lawyer in due time!" (40:45). How do you think the Swiss can afford the Gotthard Tunnel?
@Nineteenstarsabove
@Nineteenstarsabove 6 ай бұрын
Don’t worry about that! We Swiss always find ways😘🇨🇭. Customer Satisfaction guaranteed🫡
@movement2contact
@movement2contact 6 ай бұрын
​@@NineteenstarsaboveDid stalin have a swiss account?
@Nineteenstarsabove
@Nineteenstarsabove 6 ай бұрын
@@movement2contact i do not confirm nor deny. If such information exist, its confidential😘🇨🇭
@GSSurry
@GSSurry 6 ай бұрын
I have hearing impairment and this loud obnoxious background music is making it difficult to understand the dialogue.
@rambleon2838
@rambleon2838 6 ай бұрын
He's protecting the hand who pays for his Cuban cigars and it's inflationary price. Wonder if he does like Swiss chocolate? 😂
@GizmoMaxx
@GizmoMaxx 6 ай бұрын
Switzerland “Neutrality” its means anybody can have business here even the N4ZIS did and that’s a historical fact.
@stereophonicsmom
@stereophonicsmom 6 ай бұрын
💯
@mchoidir43
@mchoidir43 5 ай бұрын
Will Said
@kg6370
@kg6370 5 ай бұрын
Ignorant BS. Try opening an account there.
@001HK0
@001HK0 5 ай бұрын
@@kg6370 All that gold was just mined from the alps, I'm sure /s
@albertutrecht9627
@albertutrecht9627 5 ай бұрын
@@kg6370 very easy to open an account there but not with every bank.
@peterl545
@peterl545 6 ай бұрын
London competes for this money.
@jozette-pierce
@jozette-pierce 6 ай бұрын
Yup, London and its offshore banking network, of which Dubai is a major participant .
@farsalami8605
@farsalami8605 6 ай бұрын
London does not compete.... London Rules in this area lol
@squireson
@squireson 6 ай бұрын
Don't forget New York's tradition of laundering money through real estate. Though I guess they learned that from London as well.
@jozette-pierce
@jozette-pierce 6 ай бұрын
@@farsalami8605 Yup, between offshore banking , and the Rothschilds' 500 Trillion @BOE, I would say London is the ultimate "ground zero" for Globalists, n'cest pas. ???
@michaelbassett5990
@michaelbassett5990 6 ай бұрын
Switzerland might hold some of their money, but countries like Germany are providing those oligarchs with those funds
@gome8148
@gome8148 6 ай бұрын
Where can you find more info on Germanys contributions to the war
@rambleon2838
@rambleon2838 6 ай бұрын
It's not only the Swiss. Putin has managed to corrupt most of EU politicians and bankers since he exiled Yeltsin. The most corrupted one must have been Merkel. Putin almost made heir the queen of Germany. She was in power for 16 years and probably still would be if Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine. She knew her time was up. Now, Putin is the longest elected leader in Europe and his boy Lukashenko holds the longest dictator of Europe title. Regarding providing funds to oligarchs: We all did in one way or the other. Buying petrol at the pump or pay the gas heating bill, order made in China stuff from Amazon or vacation in India or Turkey. China, India and Turkey became the biggest Russian oil purchasers in 2023.
@strpet27
@strpet27 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@gome8148Germany is importing gas from Azerbaijan which is actually Russian gas rerouted through Azerbaijan so that they can avoid sanctions. And it’s not like this is disputed or secret, it all happens in the open so that Germany and other European countries can publicly state they don’t import Russian gas anymore which fun fact they still absolutely do.
@paladro
@paladro 6 ай бұрын
@@strpet27 all of the west is using fuel that has been refined by china or india... but ask yourself this, if fuel supplies dry up, where will our industry in the west be? its a supply chain with so many problems, you can't not be affected if you shut something down altogether... are you ready to slow global supplies, including food and medicine?
@petermallm149
@petermallm149 6 ай бұрын
@@paladro Simple answer: We'll see stock markets crash, mass unemployment and investors, who always have this option might play this card, level go profit is essential, currently conducting Ukraine war on higher energy revenues is more profitable. .....we'll see !
@TheMightyKingzuru
@TheMightyKingzuru 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact: An oligarch is a term used by the West to refer to Russian businessmen. Otherwise, all businessmen and top politicians from across the world have bank accounts in Switzerland.
@sabine8419
@sabine8419 6 ай бұрын
Super rich, corrupt, criminal businessmen.
@rambleon2838
@rambleon2838 6 ай бұрын
Before you make trivial fun fact statements you should have looked up the meaning of "oligarchy".
@farsalami8605
@farsalami8605 6 ай бұрын
@@rambleon2838 Russia is not an oligarchy, after Putin took over. If that is what you wanted to say. Oligarchs have nothing to say in the rule of the country. 100x less than it is the case in USA
@JohnRider
@JohnRider 6 ай бұрын
@Booz2020🤣🤣
@SAapproves
@SAapproves 4 ай бұрын
​@@sabine8419name one businessman who isn't corrupt😂
@sinanozdemir193
@sinanozdemir193 6 ай бұрын
Western media love using oligarch word but never admit they have their own oligarchy especially in the US and Germany
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki 6 ай бұрын
Many American oligarchs are in congress. They earn their money from insider trading (which is legal if you're in congress). Not partisan either. Republicans and democrats both do it and resist any reforms.
@anyetitan8410
@anyetitan8410 6 ай бұрын
Bezos, gates, elon all oligarchs.
@MakateRapulana
@MakateRapulana 6 ай бұрын
In the West they call them Billionaires
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki 6 ай бұрын
Comment removed again.
@jozette-pierce
@jozette-pierce 6 ай бұрын
@@anyetitan8410 yep. They all live off the fruits and inventions of the American people (taxpayers), who developed and paid for the INTERNET , NASA research and so much more.
@jma2570
@jma2570 6 ай бұрын
The lawyer who is against the sanctions and who smokes his big cigar tells it all. This guy is using casuistries to defend his shady clients.
@anyetitan8410
@anyetitan8410 6 ай бұрын
Ask yourself why he was recorded with a cigar and the other guy arguing for sanctions seemed like a modest and honest guy trying to fight crime. Such a fine propaganda.
@jma2570
@jma2570 6 ай бұрын
@@anyetitan8410 Come on this interview was not done surreptitiously without his prior knowledge. These are preplanned interviews because as you know lawyers have their own schedule. And no one asked him to smoke a cigar. Contrary to what he says sanctions can and do work if people like him in the west do not help their shady clients to circumvent the sanctions. For your information it is because of sanctions that the Iranian regime came to the negotiating table and the nuclear deal was signed in 2015. And why should the Russians put their money in the west because they say the west is decadent? They should walk the talk. Don’t see propaganda everywhere.
@anyetitan8410
@anyetitan8410 6 ай бұрын
@jma2570 First of all, confiscation of property and freezing of accounts is illegal because its not in the ambit of international law for a nation or bloc to seize property and freeze accounts just because another state is not comforming to agenda. What if the assets of Americans are confisticated in china because the US invaded Iraq under the guise of false claims of possession of WMD. Nations can terminate trade with other nations as they see fit, but not seize assets and freeze accounts of individuals just because you claim they are oligarchs. Remember, with all these sanctions, the USA still buys uranium from Russia, and Russian gas still finds its way to Europe. If you don't see propaganda in the Western media then i don't know what qualifies as propaganda to you.
@stopato5772
@stopato5772 6 ай бұрын
@@anyetitan8410 Perhaps because he put a cigar in his mouth to stop other nonsense from slipping out. The dual citizen school graduate could give up his second nationality if he wants to be against this war. Cigaro is money laundering for an oligarchs family in case you didn't see beyond his smoke screen.
@fanghe-z1j
@fanghe-z1j 6 ай бұрын
When will the money of those wealthy people who invaded Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya and other countries be confiscated?
@NyanyiC
@NyanyiC 6 ай бұрын
Never
@eddierussel5911
@eddierussel5911 6 ай бұрын
They always say Russia 😂 but others like UK , USA and etc are angels they do not steal and are not corrupt
@UrsulaPfeifferStrautman
@UrsulaPfeifferStrautman 6 ай бұрын
Exactly
@guydreamr
@guydreamr 3 ай бұрын
Whataboutism is hereabouts.
@willemhill2265
@willemhill2265 2 ай бұрын
Never because those are the ones the Americans, British and EU likes.
@buzzlightyear3715
@buzzlightyear3715 6 ай бұрын
I would bet more Russian money went to UK than Switzerland
@raptorhacker599
@raptorhacker599 6 ай бұрын
i concur
@Alex-pr6zv
@Alex-pr6zv 6 ай бұрын
Dubai is where it's at today
@eddierussel5911
@eddierussel5911 6 ай бұрын
Dubai does not collect tax
@Faceless166
@Faceless166 6 ай бұрын
UK was welcoming all Russian oligarchs since the 90s knowing perfectly well how they earned or rather stole the money from the Russian people. They didn’t care about democracy and human rights then.
@GrahamCStrouse
@GrahamCStrouse 3 ай бұрын
Not anymore.
@thereallotharmatthae
@thereallotharmatthae 6 ай бұрын
Great documentary.
@honey_tip_heaven
@honey_tip_heaven 6 ай бұрын
00:00:00 Escalation of Sanctions against Russia 00:04:06 Russian Oligarchs in Switzerland 00:08:01 Challenges and Criticisms Addressed 00:12:01 Investigation findings on FP and related entities 00:16:57 Swiss-Russian Financial Controversy 00:21:39 Swiss Banks and Russian Assets 00:25:28 High-profile clients in PHA Port 00:29:40 Circumventing sanctions and asset management 00:33:38 Sanctions Impact and Legal Implications 00:38:28 Legal Defense Against Sanctions The fastest way to absorb knowledge | Lilys AI
@armandobanha3817
@armandobanha3817 6 ай бұрын
Good doc...try complete with a doc about the 'other side'
@mlad21mii
@mlad21mii 6 ай бұрын
Honest Russians with Swiss bank accounts? I am positive that Swiss are aware of the salaries in Russia, so those honest Russians worked some few hundred years to accumulate their wealth...only to store it Swiss depositories 😂
@SMILYSUNFLOWER
@SMILYSUNFLOWER 6 ай бұрын
well why should we freeze their assets? if there isn't any proof that it was obtained illegally or is used to fund a war it shouldnt be frozen
@stadex4203
@stadex4203 6 ай бұрын
Russia is acountry with 144million people, surely one can imagine that this makes it possible for billionaires to arise in finance, entertainment, pharma, weapons industry, aerospace etc.
@luciferjohnson8495
@luciferjohnson8495 6 ай бұрын
​@@stadex4203not with honesty my guy. You can't become a millionaire let alone a billionaire being a honest guy. It's just works in movies only
@rambleon2838
@rambleon2838 6 ай бұрын
@@stadex4203 No they didn't. When the Soviets where forced to privatize their industries in the early 90s where did all the investment come from? Who was managing all the international business relationships? Putin was the main contact guy in St. Petersburg if you wanted to get into business with Russia. After Putin toppled Yeltsin in a soft coup, he went to work and nationalized Russian's biggest cash cow, the energy and mining sectors and put his long term allies and former KGB functionaries into the main seat of those companies who also happen to have expended their Russkiy mir into the European energy market which of course got them well connected to politicians, lawyers, realtors and bankers who started working on their behalf. Putin was such a good customer and honest play, regardless the Chechen, Georgian, Ukrainian and Syrian Wars and the aggressive speech towards the West in Munich, he got appeased with the Summer and Winter Olympics, the Soccer World Cup and a spot in the Formula 1 circuit.
@dzurfluh2156
@dzurfluh2156 6 ай бұрын
Bring those honest and well qualified Russians to Europe and give them the opportunity to make a life outside of the dictatorship and that way work against the Russian government.
@thomasduggan8755
@thomasduggan8755 6 ай бұрын
Why has Switzerland never been invaded Just follow the money 🤑 💰 💵 😢❤
@jungle1smass1ve
@jungle1smass1ve 6 ай бұрын
@@stadex4203 wow how naive are you. It's all about man power if we take nukes out of the question. Play more multiplayer games, they simulate it very well. Resources like energy, all types of guns, ammunition is not a problem for any country nowadays.
@brendon1689
@brendon1689 6 ай бұрын
@@jungle1smass1ve video games? lol ok just take a look at russia, they are winning but not easily numbers are not the end all be all and never have been it's simple really; the more advantages you have, the better switzerland is hard to invade because it is landlocked and high up in the mountains. there are not many routes you can take into switzerland, and many are via tunnels which can easily by blown up and made impassable, so the remaining few are not very hard to defend one could say that air power could make the difference, which is true but the swiss have always been aware that their outsized stature has always been quite irritating to countries around them, so they are quite keen on their militant pacifism they are well aware of the military threats, and invest heavily in air defence besides, many countries have loads of assets funnelled or kept in switzerland's many financial institutions what do you do when something is hard and not worth it to get? you ignore it.
@rambleon2838
@rambleon2838 6 ай бұрын
@@stadex4203 What happened when France invaded Switzerland? Did they all take a collective afternoon nap?
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd 6 ай бұрын
@@brendon1689 switzerland is landlocked.
@brendon1689
@brendon1689 6 ай бұрын
@@QWERTY-gp8fd ? That's what i said?
@mohamadsami7131
@mohamadsami7131 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this
@eugenio1542
@eugenio1542 6 ай бұрын
Yes. This is Good. But. A tip of the iceberg. Dubai is the new way to go 😢
@orangeninja912
@orangeninja912 6 ай бұрын
260 member banks in that obscure organization. How many banks even exist in Switzerland
@Tempest_Murder
@Tempest_Murder 6 ай бұрын
Corruption must be bad if those were the best legal arguments the State Secretary was able to afford.
@rocketphewl
@rocketphewl 6 ай бұрын
. exactly.. what about euro-american oligarchs.? All war is between our rich and their rich.. not us... .
@sivuyilemtsi9840
@sivuyilemtsi9840 6 ай бұрын
Those were just lazy excuses for me, not even valid arguments. They make it seem like they are the only banking institutions in this world that face money launderers, therefore we do not know what they are going through. SMH!
@paladro
@paladro 6 ай бұрын
@@rocketphewl yeah and the swiss wallow around in the blood money
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
​@@paladrobased
@SMILYSUNFLOWER
@SMILYSUNFLOWER 6 ай бұрын
​@@paladroI'm Swiss and I've never done that.. you should check with your American friends that rank first on the financial secrecy index..
@jknowi
@jknowi 6 ай бұрын
I am glad you took this topic. Thank you!
@mrlover4310
@mrlover4310 6 ай бұрын
I would love to see how many European governments have got money in those Swiss account😮
@chelloandra
@chelloandra 6 ай бұрын
not governments
@arekkusub6877
@arekkusub6877 6 ай бұрын
Governments? That would be absolutely impossible, you are still living in a sort of 19. century of conspiracy theories.
@rambleon2838
@rambleon2838 6 ай бұрын
@@henlohenlo689 Switzerland has become the proxy for dictators, warlords, absolute monarchs and oligarchs starting WWII. In order to avoid getting invaded by the Nazis they agreed on safekeeping all the Nazi loot and be silent about it. Since the Swiss guard also is the guard who protects the Pope, the Catholic Church became also a silent crime partner when they where forced to cut a deal with Mussolini.
@OrontesRM
@OrontesRM 6 ай бұрын
get into the real world, comrade
@shainfarah3433
@shainfarah3433 6 ай бұрын
How dare you?lol
@TheMilpitasguy
@TheMilpitasguy 6 ай бұрын
But why stop at "freeze"? Those assets ($300-B) should be seized & handed over to Ukraine for rebuilding their country.
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
so all of them? are you crazy? that's thief.
@eddierussel5911
@eddierussel5911 6 ай бұрын
Ukraine is already sold to Black Rock
@colleenpeck6347
@colleenpeck6347 6 ай бұрын
Yes. I agree ‼️👍 💯
@j.krii.
@j.krii. 6 ай бұрын
Russia owns to Ukraine so much, that it must bancrupt 10 times. It is ukrainian money, no questions.
@jamescook6477
@jamescook6477 6 ай бұрын
​@@Wisteria__LaneYes, but thieving from thieves mostly.
@peterhueppi7338
@peterhueppi7338 6 ай бұрын
As a dual US/Swiss national, it's always entertaining to see the US act as the world's police (watch "Team America: World Police"). Let's make a documentary about the thousands of shell companies registered in Delaware that hide all kinds of assets. Let's also explore Miami's booming real estate market, fueled by stolen or laundered South American money, which seems to go unnoticed. We should delve into the illegal gun trade supported by US weapons manufacturers, which props up Latin American cartels. The list goes on… It's always easy to pick on the little guy, but hard to look yourself in the mirror. DW pushing its left agenda again.
@raptorhacker599
@raptorhacker599 6 ай бұрын
no difference between right or left in the US when it comes to foreign policy of preying on the world
@nelhern2677
@nelhern2677 6 ай бұрын
Your argument about the US doesn't cancel the fact that switzerland is a heavily corrupted country. The difference is that the swiss population profits from said corruption,
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
@@nelhern2677 how? did you know international assets are only 2.5% of the Swiss economy? educate yourself!
@vaughnreedjr6592
@vaughnreedjr6592 6 ай бұрын
Nothing left about this video.
@JKHTX
@JKHTX 6 ай бұрын
​@raptorhacker599 both sides want bigger government in different ways. Each time a side wins, the American people lose freedom.
@fatimaperez9181
@fatimaperez9181 6 ай бұрын
Swiss Bank accounts is where everyone who wants to hide money can do so
@MyLoganTreks
@MyLoganTreks 6 ай бұрын
They have the best advisors and shady people in high places
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
one nation is still better. check the financial secrecy index ranking.
@colleenpeck6347
@colleenpeck6347 6 ай бұрын
Also, Grand Cayman! 🇰🇾
@lukemurray4950
@lukemurray4950 6 ай бұрын
This is not true. British overseas territories are. Virgin Islands for example
@rambleon2838
@rambleon2838 6 ай бұрын
The Swiss are not alone in that international shadow banking Bonzi scheme. There's an article in Politico that Swiss bankers and lawyers already start moving money around for their Russian clients to trusts on behalf of their wives or children or offshore to Cyprus or Dubai bank accounts well before the full scale invasion. Kremlin TV started talking about the envision 6-9 months before to prime the Russian audience. The West was asleep at the wheel and preoccupied with Covid-19 mandates, which seamed to be a coincident then, but today I have my serious doubts about it. This was well planned out between Putin and Xi as was planned out with Erdogan the 2015 opening of the refugee floodgate into Europe despite billions of euros sent to Turkey. The hostile take over of Honk Kong by China and the Myanmar military coup was not a coincident either. But, I shall digress. The Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project (OCCRP), founded in 2006, released the Panama Papers in 2019 including the Formation House leaks in London. In 2022, the released The Russian Asset Tracker, The Israeli Team Jorge investigation, Narco Files and Cypress Confidential. All seem to have one purpose: hide money and corrupt democracies in the process. The Formation House (now London Office) stands out since they have legally found loop holes for anybody who needed to hide money in smaller British Commonwealth states or former such as Pakistan, Cyprus, Hong Kong, Gambia and British Virgin Islands. Malta and Monaco was mentioned in this report.
@oldi184
@oldi184 6 ай бұрын
Imagine how much American money is in Switzerland.
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
what's the problem with that?
@oldi184
@oldi184 6 ай бұрын
​@@Wisteria__Lane None. Switzerland is a well-known tax haven. If you are rich, you will seek a tax haven place to protect and multiply your wealth. It's natural and totally normal human behavior. But for some reason, the DW TV makes it as something bad. Especially when Russians do it. It's a classical double standard and hypocrisy. But DW is a German national broadcaster and Germany is in NATO. Basically, Germany is a client state of Uncle Sam. So Germany will do and behave as Uncle Sam wishes.
@carolinekanini6342
@carolinekanini6342 6 ай бұрын
Hihihi 😂
@lesliea.6440
@lesliea.6440 5 ай бұрын
lol what money? Too many regulations. Especially after the fall out of 2008. No Swiss bank takes Americans because they are “too risky” only UBS…or that’s what I as told. Which is kinda funny since they are the ones who bailed out credit suisse this last year at the behest of the fed.
@MissRed92837
@MissRed92837 5 ай бұрын
I’m half Swiss, half American and I have to file taxes in the US. American citizens and dual citizens Swiss-American can’t hide money in Switzerland. Plus Swiss banks don’t like Americans as clients. The US has a contract with Switzerland where all Swiss banks have to report all bank accounts of American citizens to the IRS.
@oncoded
@oncoded 6 ай бұрын
And they still have the balls to call Africans corrupt....How dare you? 🤣🤣🤡🤡🙄🙄
@layingthatpipe
@layingthatpipe 6 ай бұрын
The Swiss hired an African to run one of there most corrupt banks credit suisse
@itzblvckhighlander1576
@itzblvckhighlander1576 6 ай бұрын
So your leaders aren‘t corrupt?
@ebiekem
@ebiekem 6 ай бұрын
​@@itzblvckhighlander1576 pot calling kettle black.
@squireson
@squireson 6 ай бұрын
They don't seize the yachts, they arrest them, not permitting them to travel. The seizure only happens once the case is ready for court.
@diamondlion47
@diamondlion47 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this work, great video!
@michaelwinningham6166
@michaelwinningham6166 6 ай бұрын
As always, well done, DW! What a fascinating report.
@Hidfhjccbxcbhc
@Hidfhjccbxcbhc 6 ай бұрын
Oligarchs are best people in politics, they gave their children alot of money and shares with other friends, here in London many Oligarchs families are living freely.
@MP_mp20
@MP_mp20 6 ай бұрын
Heaven for Rich people around the world 🌎 not only Russia Poor people money 💰 around the world 🌎 😢😢😢 Shame on Europe 🇪🇺
@erik3371
@erik3371 6 ай бұрын
That's the flag of EU and Switzerland isn't in the EU...
@asha8443
@asha8443 6 ай бұрын
The EU could do more to stop their own citizens from stashing their money in Switzerland to avoid paying taxes. It’s Switzerland that benefits from this shady movement of money.
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
​@@asha8443switzerland automatically shares information on financial accounts to all of the EU.. how exactly are they avoiding taxes??
@eddierussel5911
@eddierussel5911 6 ай бұрын
​@@asha8443why to pay tax??? It goes nowhere anyway only to those that do not want to work.... Look at USA, ppl pay thousands of tax and yet medicine is not free, education not free ..why they pay such amount of tax if nothing in return???? Look at Dubai no tax and everyone happy
@rokasb9441
@rokasb9441 6 ай бұрын
DW production quality is so great... good job!
@farsalami8605
@farsalami8605 6 ай бұрын
Yes great " propaganda" productions
@GrumpyOldMan9
@GrumpyOldMan9 6 ай бұрын
"An innocent Russian with a Suisse bank account". Yeah, right
@Livin-In-a-Box
@Livin-In-a-Box 4 ай бұрын
If you keep your money in Switzerland, Cyprus, Bermuda, Caymans, or Dubai and you aren't from there, you are probably shady or avoiding taxes.
@Dg73739
@Dg73739 3 ай бұрын
Aww a jealous poor man
@Retroscoop
@Retroscoop 19 күн бұрын
Well, a Russian ballerina, opera singer, composer, painter, breeders of furry animals for mink coats, top Chefs de cuisine, Putin's jester....
@GrumpyOldMan9
@GrumpyOldMan9 18 күн бұрын
@@Dg73739 or an righteous wealthy man, who does mind paying taxes and is free of any grift. They do exist
@lettucesalad3560
@lettucesalad3560 6 ай бұрын
Poor Swiss bankers.. imagine having to do some work.
@MissRed92837
@MissRed92837 5 ай бұрын
Swiss bankers earn a fortune! I’m Swiss and I know bankers earn a fortune plus they get huge bonuses.
@sirjames2413
@sirjames2413 6 ай бұрын
This channel never fails to disappoint
@bonaldisillico
@bonaldisillico 6 ай бұрын
Bravi - keep up this fine work!
@YITV
@YITV 6 ай бұрын
Switzerland bears a great responsibility for the underdevelopment of Africa, they helped them in their embezzlement by being a safe heaven. Imagine the effect it will have if EU and US did just what it's doing now against Russia in regards to all the stolen monies from Africa in the Swiss banks
@eythemischief4148
@eythemischief4148 6 ай бұрын
Switzerland a HAVEN for ALL money? Investigative journalism, and not biased at all.
@ComradeCatpurrnicus
@ComradeCatpurrnicus 6 ай бұрын
What are you crying about? They aren't saying that Switzerland is the only place it happens, just that a lot of it does happen there and is relatively unknown/uncared about by many.
@eythemischief4148
@eythemischief4148 6 ай бұрын
@@ComradeCatpurrnicus You do sound like a cry baby though. Mr Relatively Unknown.
@mrbufffo2450
@mrbufffo2450 6 ай бұрын
DW thanks a lot for a great documentary
@francisa751
@francisa751 6 ай бұрын
Swiss was never neutral, not even during WWII.
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
You should know what neutrality is... It's not participating in a military way.. Switzerland is neutral.
@francisa751
@francisa751 6 ай бұрын
@ccii-ch6gf They hid Hitler's gold, that's why they never were invaded.
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
​@@francisa751yes so what? that changed nothing to the neutrality
@missfridaycat
@missfridaycat 6 ай бұрын
This is very hard to watch because the background music is so intrusive. I’ve given up.
@definitelynotadam
@definitelynotadam 6 ай бұрын
36:33 awww it breaks my heart to see this injustice. Poor banker denied his profit margins from Russian oligarchs.
@community1854
@community1854 6 ай бұрын
Very good!
@droydi
@droydi 6 ай бұрын
16:10 so they followed convential AML guidelines, why is that music playing in the background when they just did what they are supposed to do in that situation???
@SourishDass
@SourishDass 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant piece of journalism by the DW team.
@AK-ej5ml
@AK-ej5ml 6 ай бұрын
Excellent documentary. Sanctions will only work if there are no loopholes or workarounds - which is near impossible to achieve.
@adramseyer
@adramseyer 4 ай бұрын
How ridiculous is that? They found a man with 500k Euros in Cash and 44 Million in gold (notably transferred to Dubai to make the point that Switzerland still is the bad guy. At the same time uncountable billions are being transferred through Dubai, Singapore and other places to support Russian oil and gas trades to the big guys (India and China) - which both are “tbtc” (to big to criticize). And btw, London has been the money laundering place and place to life for Russian oligarchs after Switzerland changed their money laundering laws in the 90ies and early 2000’s. Something they obviously forgot to mention in this cheap production.
@tomhermens7698
@tomhermens7698 3 ай бұрын
London was only a vehicle to Switzerland or elsewhere. Your cheap comment shows you are close to the fire.
@adramseyer
@adramseyer 3 ай бұрын
@@tomhermens7698 in case you refer to the fire of happiness, health, good schools, good roads, good income distribution and low taxes you are absolutely right. And btw, the finanince industry share of our total economy is only 16%. Have a good day!
@HectorSantos-fi9xm
@HectorSantos-fi9xm 6 ай бұрын
Any sanctions to France, US etc… for bombing Libia ?
@stopato5772
@stopato5772 6 ай бұрын
West is still waking up to Hiroshima and Nagasaki war crimes.
@sgg200
@sgg200 6 ай бұрын
a country without a principle.
@stehgrad
@stehgrad 6 ай бұрын
Pecunia non olet?
@danielvandenhoek1028
@danielvandenhoek1028 6 ай бұрын
one could argue, they actually are one of the most principled. Neutrality means neutrality, regardless ethics lol.
@asha8443
@asha8443 6 ай бұрын
I disagree. Their principle is to make more and more money. It’s called greed.
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
Really? Think of all the people that were helped because of the Red cross. And don't forget all the peace summits that happened in switzerland. some ended wars like for Algeria. don't only see negatives.
@On_The_Piss
@On_The_Piss 6 ай бұрын
@@Wisteria__Lane giving with one hand and taking with the other
@stadex4203
@stadex4203 6 ай бұрын
Before any Russian assets are seized the US and UK assets must be seized first for the illegal Iraq war with over 1million dead Iraqis, give the money to Iraq war victims and refugees, that way the new legal principle will have a solid foundation in Western legal precedent. Or is that not wanted? Western legal principles only apply to foreign leaders and not our own?
@Escape_The_Mundane
@Escape_The_Mundane 6 ай бұрын
Long live Kurdistan!!!
@osmenesses7092
@osmenesses7092 6 ай бұрын
Why to Iraq? So isis can take it?
@joannabusinessaccount7293
@joannabusinessaccount7293 6 ай бұрын
An excellent documentary. The Swiss cigar smoking lawyer asked an excellent questions and so did the investigative journalist. DW - please do a deep dive on how, exactly, does the Oligarchs and the Oligarch’s assets finance the way? Once we can better understand what exactly is the way that the Oligarchs function in Russia, and how their money goes to “fund the war” - we can all be a better judge of the justification for sanctions. People in the world need to know. People in the west understand that wars are funded by tax payers. But how does the money from oligarchs pay for the war? What do they buy? Equipment? Weapons? Salary for soldiers? What?
@Steeler-wg5zo
@Steeler-wg5zo 6 ай бұрын
As Bert Brecht wrote: 'First comes the grub, then the morals'
@JH-cb2zf
@JH-cb2zf 6 ай бұрын
Money removes all moral obligation
@Escape_The_Mundane
@Escape_The_Mundane 6 ай бұрын
My family come from near Switzerland, baden-wurttemberg. According to legend, they russians came from russia to there because of the famcy french lifestyle and the healing wells.
@margottomasik2108
@margottomasik2108 2 ай бұрын
Bill Browder is a true American patriot. Hope he receives Presidential Medal of Freedom for all his work.
@marcom7873
@marcom7873 6 ай бұрын
All german people would like to live in Switzerland 🙏🏻🇨🇭🇩🇪
@Exposemedia4u
@Exposemedia4u 6 ай бұрын
Yes you’re right because they destroyed their own country.
@BenEthridge
@BenEthridge 3 ай бұрын
​@@Exposemedia4u; LOL 😅
@axelkarki261
@axelkarki261 3 ай бұрын
Nice work
@torbenlarsen331
@torbenlarsen331 6 ай бұрын
The EU should simply declare that they want to have full access to the names to the Russians accounts. Of course, confiscate their money. No mercy.
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
absolutely not
@MikusVilsons
@MikusVilsons 6 ай бұрын
38:41 The Lawyer is a liar too - sanction states that the Client is not only a son of a war criminal, but most importantly - he was not able to earn arrested money (assets) himself There is no need to lecture us about official languages in Switzerland! As well as those terms he appeal to - you can call it whatever you want, but common sense tells us - this is wrong, and has to be stopped now!
@live_free_or_perish
@live_free_or_perish 6 ай бұрын
I was doubtful about taking Russia's frozen assets. Not anymore.
@frankrenda2519
@frankrenda2519 6 ай бұрын
the west has turned to theft
@abdouj7116
@abdouj7116 6 ай бұрын
Criminals".. help yourself yourself and say bye-bye to western financial system. Western countries have never been held accountable for their crimes in lybia, Iraq Vietnam the list is long.
@gerhardphann
@gerhardphann 4 ай бұрын
Danke. Super 👍
@SaikouTouray-sf8fx
@SaikouTouray-sf8fx 6 ай бұрын
you do not have any point, Russia is literally using china, india and other countries to do their businesses like exporting oil and gas to china and china will exporting it to USA and other Europe countries.
@mrtee3477
@mrtee3477 6 ай бұрын
How can you freeze regular people's money?
@navajojohn9448
@navajojohn9448 6 ай бұрын
Bill Browder was an American national until ditched his citizenship. A good way to get out of taxes. He was a player in making money in the Russia when USSR dissolved. UK citizens not subject to taxes on worldwide income and off shore corps and trusts are common tools for tax avoidance plus lite touch regulations. Now to renounce US citizenship you have pay an exit tax if income and asset levels hit. It used to be free to renounce but Obama started charging money.
@WalterVetterli
@WalterVetterli 6 ай бұрын
What's he a Citizen of now???
@brinjoness3386
@brinjoness3386 6 ай бұрын
​@@WalterVetterliuk where taxes are larger
@W_Bin
@W_Bin 6 ай бұрын
The sheer amount of money these individuals have is a scandal in itself.
@paladro
@paladro 6 ай бұрын
there are no good or honest billionaires
@gregoryunderwood4121
@gregoryunderwood4121 4 ай бұрын
Nothing even close to that if the UAE families
@arbaz79
@arbaz79 6 ай бұрын
Great investigative journalism by DW 👍. Keep it up
@DWDocumentary
@DWDocumentary 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@SuperBeetox
@SuperBeetox 6 ай бұрын
It can definitely turns a saint into a sinner, bends the laws of the land, makes wrong seems right, blurs between good and evil. The Power of Money!
@Exposemedia4u
@Exposemedia4u 6 ай бұрын
All I see in this program is that the Swiss 🇨🇭 have followed the law and reported all suspicious cases . But I have seen nothing been done about Russian money been laundered though Dubai . 95% if russian money goes through Dubai
@RolandusLuzus
@RolandusLuzus 4 ай бұрын
Because they are scared of Dubai due to the dealings in oil, gas and other products!
@jamaljames2578
@jamaljames2578 4 ай бұрын
Always watching from Georgetown Guyana south America 🇬🇾🇬🇾
@nunobartolo2908
@nunobartolo2908 6 ай бұрын
Why not boycott Switzerland ?
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
why? we're doing more than many countries..
@nunobartolo2908
@nunobartolo2908 6 ай бұрын
@@Wisteria__Lane there is a reason any Swiss banker that lands in us soils spends time in jail
@SMILYSUNFLOWER
@SMILYSUNFLOWER 6 ай бұрын
​@@nunobartolo2908hmm propaganda? check the financial secrecy index. look who's first 😂
@nelhern2677
@nelhern2677 6 ай бұрын
@@Wisteria__Lane more to assist criminals that is.
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
@@nelhern2677 like who? and keeping money safe in a bank account I don't really call that assisting. maybe indirectly
@Johnny-qu9op
@Johnny-qu9op 3 ай бұрын
Once again excellent reporting 😮 I love DW ❤ from US.
@SvalbardSleeperDistrict
@SvalbardSleeperDistrict 6 ай бұрын
35:30 This guy talking about how bad it is that low-income households have to pay higher electricity bills 😂 the absolute comedy effect...
@HeavilyCensoredKitty
@HeavilyCensoredKitty 6 ай бұрын
Nothing new they held lots of German accounts.
@Faceless166
@Faceless166 6 ай бұрын
You mean Nazi German?
@whatever-s3e
@whatever-s3e 6 ай бұрын
specially Ursula and gang
@djtigerstripes
@djtigerstripes 6 ай бұрын
I like how the subject matter here is like 20 years late
@ben5156
@ben5156 5 ай бұрын
Londongrad is so welcoming to the oligarchs with this Tory government.
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 6 ай бұрын
Switzerland adopting its normal wartime position.
@VdubKnckOff
@VdubKnckOff 4 ай бұрын
To each their own. The Swiss should be able to conduct business in whatever way they see fit. The EU is as or more corrupt than even the UN.
@michaelbryant2071
@michaelbryant2071 6 ай бұрын
The only law that matters in Switzerland is that of profit.
@SMILYSUNFLOWER
@SMILYSUNFLOWER 6 ай бұрын
if it was switzerland wouldn't have imposed so many sanctions.. it's even on the unfriendly list of Russia.
@SMILYSUNFLOWER
@SMILYSUNFLOWER 6 ай бұрын
if that was the case switzerland wouldn't be the third country applying the most sanctions against Russia..
@whatever-s3e
@whatever-s3e 6 ай бұрын
Criminals putting sanctions against Criminals
@MB-dp1rj
@MB-dp1rj 6 ай бұрын
Exactly!!
@asiaticonaeuropa
@asiaticonaeuropa 6 ай бұрын
if russian has 150 billions in swiss bank, how much do western politician have in swiss bank? 1000 billions? or 2000 billions?😂
@aliancemd
@aliancemd 6 ай бұрын
Swiss banks should not be allowed to do business in the West in general. Their business model is almost exclusively based on helping to legalize money from the criminal world(see Credit Suisse for example - most of the business was Russian oligarchs, dictators, drug cartels, etc).
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
erm no. maybe in the past
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
@ccii-ch6gf definetly.. or it would have all collapsed when banking secrecy ended. but assets keep rising since then.
@SMILYSUNFLOWER
@SMILYSUNFLOWER 6 ай бұрын
absurdity. check the financial secrecy index.
@aliancemd
@aliancemd 6 ай бұрын
​@ccii-ch6gf The reports are out and this was still happening up to the point Credit Suisse filed for bankruptcy because the Russian oligarchs pulling money out cascaded to other clients(fears that they won't be able to pull their money out of CS if it goes bankrupt - resulting in more and more clients pulling their money out). Leaks of drug cartels, dictators, all kinds of criminal clients are Very recent
@SMILYSUNFLOWER
@SMILYSUNFLOWER 6 ай бұрын
​@@aliancemdyes, the leaks are recent but not the activities. they are from 10 years ago.
@kereneldad2960
@kereneldad2960 6 ай бұрын
Excellent piece. You are spot-on.
@ombogalombo
@ombogalombo 6 ай бұрын
no they're not. Germany is a bigger criminal
@GrumpyOldMan9
@GrumpyOldMan9 6 ай бұрын
Reynders still hasn't seized the 300 billion USD Russian assets with Euroclear in Brussels. Why?
@rof8200
@rof8200 6 ай бұрын
Did not realise a court had decided that all these business people from Russia were guilty of crimes
@dannydetonator
@dannydetonator 6 ай бұрын
There are reasonable reasons behind every person and their assets becoming sanctioned. Why invite and enrich those helping to fight a war agaist you?
@anssiluomaranta34
@anssiluomaranta34 5 ай бұрын
anyone defending russia and russians so obviously these days: a russian bot or a traitor.
@maladjustedmalcontent1532
@maladjustedmalcontent1532 3 ай бұрын
Now that the Swiss authorities have been put on notice about Finaport what actions have they taken???
@RUHappyATM
@RUHappyATM 6 ай бұрын
Switzerland needs to change its banking secrecy laws.
@TheAdamAdy
@TheAdamAdy 6 ай бұрын
They can do whatever they want, theyre not part of EU
@Bulletguy07
@Bulletguy07 6 ай бұрын
@@TheAdamAdy Neither is my country (UK) since the insanity of Brexit but London is awash with dirty money from Russian billionaires who buy huge mansions.
@stadex4203
@stadex4203 6 ай бұрын
You are obviously not very well informed about Swiss banking laws, Switzerland practices Information sharing for tax purposes for those accounts of foreigners who don't live in Switzerland. It is possible that loopholes exist but the laws will deal with that whenever they are renewed in the future.
@EverythingYouNeed-t5q
@EverythingYouNeed-t5q 6 ай бұрын
@@TheAdamAdy thank u
@RUHappyATM
@RUHappyATM 6 ай бұрын
@@stadex4203 I call BS. The only way Swiss can become rich is by offering a financial service. How best to provide FS for foreigners than secrecy laws. It's a land-locked country without much natural resources.
@stilllearning7797
@stilllearning7797 6 ай бұрын
Just wondering how many yachts and jets of American oligarchs were arrested in Europe following the US invasion in Iraq in 2003?
@eugeniucastravet4222
@eugeniucastravet4222 6 ай бұрын
Mr.Bionda have not seen and not heard what the most of russian citizens are saying about the war... He will be VERY SURPRISED... They are saying that they army is doing the right thing... So when you say 95% of the people who is nothing to do with the war because they were not the ones starting the war, you have to think twice...
@ivandobrev2240
@ivandobrev2240 6 ай бұрын
He is delusional: "Sanctions don't work" "But I fight to remove the sanctions, which aren't working anyway, but please remove them"
@anyetitan8410
@anyetitan8410 6 ай бұрын
@@ivandobrev2240 because he and his kind are there to make sure they don't work.
@WalterVetterli
@WalterVetterli 6 ай бұрын
you can say that again!
@ujjawaltyagi8540
@ujjawaltyagi8540 6 ай бұрын
If this is the case for Russia just image how much black money from U.S.A is flowing in swiss banks and how much monopoly US holds in west
@csg-cutesmilegooner1690
@csg-cutesmilegooner1690 6 ай бұрын
Another good episode
@lightone-rx4rr
@lightone-rx4rr 6 ай бұрын
Less than 10% of Swiss GDP comes from finance and banking sectors!
@jonber9411
@jonber9411 6 ай бұрын
The rest is from molten cheese and sheep hides?
@lszujo
@lszujo 6 ай бұрын
yeah,because most of the deals are done under the table.....you think the cheese industry made the swiss economy prosper?
@SMILYSUNFLOWER
@SMILYSUNFLOWER 6 ай бұрын
​@@lszujojust educate yourself about the economy of switzerland. you will see it's much more than cheese and banks..
@lszujo
@lszujo 6 ай бұрын
@@SMILYSUNFLOWER yeah,if you look into it there is absolutely nothing that would warrant to generate that kind of GDP......I understand that there is medicine production,you make watches and chocolate...i don't see how you make money off of internet via CERN,I mean no significant amount of start ups,virtually no cutting edge technology inventions/apart from some minor medical device/ no weapons made there.....just tell me what industry warrants a 700 billion $ GDP,because the things I listed above ain't cutting it...
@Wisteria__Lane
@Wisteria__Lane 6 ай бұрын
@@lszujo switzerland is the most innovative country in the world, the 3rd most competitive with the 2nd most diverse and free economy with a strong labor force and high productivity.. Banks are only 5% of the gdp.
@dougmacgregor5053
@dougmacgregor5053 6 ай бұрын
Don't forget London kids..
@twitchell2682
@twitchell2682 6 ай бұрын
"We have to maintain the staff on the yacht." No, send them home. That kinda logic smh.
@goodnighteliot
@goodnighteliot 6 ай бұрын
This should rather just be called: "Switzerland a heaven for money"
@johnwhorfin5150
@johnwhorfin5150 6 ай бұрын
40:42 nice camera position for the lawyer to give the bird hahaha
@siavashsafari3795
@siavashsafari3795 6 ай бұрын
the lawyer is right, sanctions are absolutely unjust
@RUHappyATM
@RUHappyATM 6 ай бұрын
Why? The Swiss got their wealth from this business. 75% are employed in the services sector.
@SMILYSUNFLOWER
@SMILYSUNFLOWER 6 ай бұрын
​@@RUHappyATMwill you actually listen? France and the USA have 80% more employed in that sector. It's not only BANKS. Educate yourself about economics..
@RUHappyATM
@RUHappyATM 6 ай бұрын
@@SMILYSUNFLOWER Depends on how much your export earnings come from financial services. If a larger part of your GDP comes from your financial services servicing foreign clients, that's a problem, especially with banking secrecy laws.
@SMILYSUNFLOWER
@SMILYSUNFLOWER 6 ай бұрын
@@RUHappyATM it was 16% in 2023 what's the problem??
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