Dying Light 2: Choices & Consequences (2019 vs 2021)

Playlist: • Dying Light 2: 2019 vs...
Ever wondered how Dying Light 2 has evolved over the years since release? A bunch of Dying Light KZbinrs and I have banded together to collaboratively answer that question and cover as many different aspects of the game as possible. The above playlist contains every video from this series - check it out and make sure to show some love to the other content creators: OniZombies, Noviex, 80skidgrownup, BackBoardFilms, bwch, Crayfish The Arrowed.
Dying Light 2 2019 Vs 2021
Oni (HUD/Health Bars): • Dying Light 2 HUD 2019...
Bwch (Wildcard Factions): • Dying Light 2 Factions...
Noviex (Parkour): • Dying Light 2: 2018-19...
BackBoardFilms (Characters): • How Dying Light 2’s Ch...
Crayfish (Combat): • Dying Light 2: Combat ...
80skidgrownup (Environment/Infected): • Dying Light 2 Environm...
Big shoutout to OniZombies for taking the initiative to make this collaboration happen.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:41 - Industry Examples
3:41 - Dying Light 2 in 2018
5:26 - Dying Light 2 in 2019
7:22 - Dying Light 2 in 2021
9:41 - Conclusion
Drowner interview: • Dying Light 2 at E3 20...

[@ColossalKiwi]

Check out our Dying Light 2 collaboration playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLtFp_Qg94hNzAzV2W7X5xjwuMu5guWXNg

[@taisonbertalam2832]

What if I don't want to

[@ColossalKiwi]

@@taisonbertalam2832 I... I didn't think this far ahead

[@droffilcnosredneh525]

@@taisonbertalam2832 you have too. If you do not i will be at your window.

[@80skidgrownup00]

Personally I'm not convinced that the choices will be as significant as first promised back in the early trailers. It'll probably be the same compromise that we've seen in others areas of the game in order to get it finished. I am confident though that Techland will be supporting Dying Light 2 for many years to come after release to keep us interested after completing the game several times already 👍🏻

[@OmnivorousMammalian6269]

Techland did say something in a D2K Episode. I think it was ep3 or ep4, but they said something like "Lawan has a kill list and depending on your choices is whether or not you'll be on it or off it" but then Tymon Smektala cut them off and said that they are saying too much so 🤷

[@fgg4136]

@@OmnivorousMammalian6269 Hopefully the choices lives up to the trailers but I'd keep expectations low. I've only started following the game recently but I've only heard bad things about the games development.

[@John-996]

I dont think it will be Fallout New vegas level.

[@mynameisawesomeman]

@@fgg4136 Agreed. There's some stories out there that have talked about how troubled it has been and how things have changed direction multiple times, so i'm assuming this will not be the mind blowing experience everyone is expecting.

[@jonahscott5500]

COMMUNITY. SO HOT RIGHT NOW. Also y'all BEST USE THE TIME THEY GIVE. Weigh those options!!!

[@taisonbertalam2832]

Yes

[@taisonbertalam2832]

Hello Jonah

[@TheBardoSon]

Yo its Jonah or Aiden Caldwell the tarp-slasher xD

[@TheBardoSon]

Pin this comment!!

[@Rexy-kun]

Pin it!

[@CatLion4131]

I liked the choices in the 2019 version where it impacts the whole city the choices now only seem to impact a building or two

[@joshuawhite5980]

Some will change the city some will change buildings it depends on the mission

[@gabriel897100]

keep in mind that the 2019 demo was a main mission where as what we've seen with buildings changing are literally just side objectives throughout the world

[@MikkiZHskDK]

@@gabriel897100 is this confirmed somewhere or is this just a speculation, i would love if the main story shapes the world, and the side missions is still meaningful towards gameplay fun

[@danitbh7877]

@@MikkiZHskDK it is confirmed

[@noobstalker1]

It seems like 2019s just made all the changes happen at once to make it look like a lot

[@xivo9943]

Chad moment. I like how the community is so active rn and how almost everything is known unlike some games

[@Noname-hk7fi]

silksong moment

[@brokenbiscuit3609]

I really do hope the game lives up to expectations. Won't be pre-ordering it tho. Pre orders have been hell from my experience.

[@user-pw2gg6py1g]

Smart man always wait for reviews just to be safe.

[@brokenbiscuit3609]

@@user-pw2gg6py1g yeah, good advice to live by lol

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

Last game I preordered was far cry 6 and it came out bug free, ran great on consoles. And I loved it.

[@Gas_hzard15]

@jude prince exept for the fact that in console you couldn’t shoot snipers they forgot to put it in the software on the console edition

[@nicobenji0248]

Gameplay and graphics wise it lives up but the story was clearly cut back. Which was clearly a decision made due to the limited capabilities of current gen. I think they made the right decision of cutting back so much on the story aspect because they are still an indie studio and this would be a difficult task even for a team the size of R*

[@WhiteTyger22]

According to the voice actor of Aiden (Jonah Scott) the choices actually seem to matter and depending on what you do, it creates a massive change to the environment and certain characters. Im fully confident that the choices lives up to our expectations the developers are only trying not to spoil to much untill the game comes out

[@kirstyburston2912]

dissapointed that the trailers included so much footage from the central loop only to get there like 20 hours in

[@joshuahagon8269]

this is ingenious to not only spread the work amongst all the creators who are passionate but also spreading the community throughout your fanbases, legendary stuff. Hope to see some of you guys online on Feb 4th

[@LuvNukro]

my biggest concern was if avelone's content was still in the game, it sucks to hear it isn't but hopefully techland got inspired and can build a new vegas like story for us to roam around in

[@grassbag1]

I'm more so worried about the visual changes which I think was definitely avelone in the beginning. Everything looks too cartoonish and vivid now. Definitely does not look as gritty and unforgiving as the 2019 demo did.

[@OniZombies]

COLLABORATION YES YES YES

[@xivo9943]

How you doing?

[@taisonbertalam2832]

Yes

[@randomkriegsman8444]

The evolution of this game is fascinating!

[@blake3656]

Great video, your production level has gone up loads mate 👏

[@thetute59]

the devs stated that by exploring and reading notes ingame or whatever one may find more background info which may make decisions more informed :) However, idk where I have this from and I thinks its 1-2 years back that I heard this anyways. So who knows, but would be cool

[@Skinned_fried_n_cut_up_potato]

Glad I listen to the intro because I was so confused I was like “haven’t I already seen this video?”

[@caljackal6139]

6:30 They did say that each choice is pretty much neutral because you won't know what the consequences are until you make the decision. A seemingly good choice helping PKs kill bandits can be good but it could lead to the PKs getting cocky and just exterminating every person who they think is a bandit. But however letting the bandits live could make them disregard your help and go back to their old ways, maybe you find out a kid got kidnapped by them, and now you have opened up a sidequest to get her back and leave them no choice.

[@saechaoboi416]

Some of my favorite dying light content creators? I only have one 😳

[@tonkinesenchill4240]

I personally love linear games with a particular direction, even if they’re a little predictable. I think so long as the choices make a significant impact on the way the world around you feels and gives an authentic feeling of control it’ll work. Dying light one managed to be a pretty epic game, despite having an extremely generic story. I have little doubt that DL2 will knock out of the park and I can’t wait👍

[@maturnis]

my biggest complaint is that the story feels like its been done a billion times and that the choices dont really matter. the only ones that really matter is after a water tower activity where it just gives you world impact depending if you choose PK or survivors and these choices arent main story, theyre just for upgrades. the story doesnt really give me a reason to care for either faction. characters like lawan just become annoying and forced and her line at the end of the game "i wonder if ill make red fireworks" literally made me sigh becuase its that cheesy. none of the characters are likeable. the gameplay is the only enjoyable thing and for a game thats supposed to be 500 hours long, it feels like 450 is shitty dialog.

[@gameplaysboas1289]

actually the choices on the main missions really matter, they can change a lot of things but yeah some of the characters are really annoying with stupid dialogues and i couldn't care a lot for the factions except for frank

[@maturnis]

@@gameplaysboas1289 all the choices you make with the bazaar and pks mean nothing when you reach the central loop

[@Mitch_Conner75926]

@@gameplaysboas1289 The changes mean nothing and they don’t change anything. The only changes are with aidens immediate story and his relationship with Lawan and Hakon. The only choices that actually change the city are draining the flooded section and giving the water tower to either of them in which case both are extremely minor and meaningless. The RPG portion of the game was basically completely scrapped and it shows. The first part of the game it doesn’t matter who you side with the story ends up in the exact same place with the exact same people regardless. It offers no different Avenue, hell half of it doesn’t even make sense. I suppose that’s what happens when you fire your lead writer, gut all his work after false allegations.

[@Gone_now]

Something I really enjoy in games are when my decisions have a permanent physical impact on the world. Didn’t get much of that in Dying Light 1 and I still loved it to death so Dying Light 2 looks like it’s really going to be incredible.

[@Carter_Family_Bytes]

Oni Sent Me! Awesome Dissection

[@nova8352]

I'm glad dying light 2 is diving into more RPG aspects the reason i loved dead island and dying light so much is because i like to kill zombies and i adore rpg games. Nice video kiwi :)

[@mixinthebisquic1238]

I loved dead islands shootouts and slow paced horror in the sewer levels shit was scary asf lol it was such a great game couldnt do coop anytime any1 joined they tossed Molly and grenades at people and left

[@fossymoto]

fallout 3&4 came to my mind when choices and concicences and i dident know they reached out to old devs for input makes me have faith a bit in this that the resent relisez thats came out hope it stays true to the main pitch... choices

[@hotlinetheog]

Great vid thx

[@hejmeddig5829]

I hope they go back to the more subtle choices

[@stitchfan08]

Since they still have the mission from 2019 is still in the game im wondering what i will choose to do

[@loganmckaig1346]

I’m excited for the game to come out, but I can’t lie if they don’t implement this new style really well I will be mad they stirred away from the New Vegas way

[@its_kc7088]

I remember when in cyberpunk only the last mission impacted how the story finished, i was very sad about that :(

[@mebus9789]

I'm gonna be good in my first couple of playthroughs,then I'll just mess around for the rest

[@MembersOfHistory]

2:25 damn that dishonored player is goated

[@guilhermepintosl]

I think is the StealthGamerBR.

[@moisesvazquez8395]

Yall left my boy best gamer Ali out,he's been a dying light content creator for the longest

[@ColossalKiwi]

He's part of our Dying Light KZbinrs Discord server (I added him) and it was an open invitation to join this collab. Guess he was busy. He's been a Dying Light content creator for a long time, but not quite the longest.

[@silentkaine9352]

Fallout new vegas is the peak of gaming choices

[@GungusBungus]

Back in 2018 when you either negotiate with the survivors or kill them personally I would chose to negotiate because that would benefit the survivors more than the PK’s.

[@smexydave9998]

I've been worried about last Gen consoles but then again if techland can get dying light to run on Nintendo switch then I have nothing to worry about

[@grassbag1]

The visual changes with the environment are what have me concerned. This new version definitely looks way too picturesque and vivid for my liking. Almost like a cartoon.

[@bigboi8349]

Yeah I like the 2019 version more. Ist more dark and gritty. The new one is just to vibrant and colourful

[@generalv3815]

Man i’m so excited to get my hands on Dying Light 2! Hopefully it’s available on the nintendo switch

[@MasonIsKing]

Considering the first game only just got released on switch, i HIGHLY doubt, in fact can safely say it will NOT be on switch

[@generalv3815]

@@MasonIsKing Looked it up and it’s been confirmed, it’s being released on most platforms including the Switch.

[@generalv3815]

@@MasonIsKing They didn’t just release the game, they gave us the PLATINUM version of it.

[@MasonIsKing]

@@generalv3815 guess my "safely says" wasn't very safe after all, nvm

[@mortadaali574]

it will be but on internet or something like that

[@AreaAlien-db8jp]

Ngl the 2018 of the scarred bald guy looked like a human pug, he looks much more intimidating in the 2021 version

[@user-rl1db6uk4z]

The only concern I have is techland is trying to please everyone wich onfortanatly can't happen I am very optimistic and think there's something for everyone but there is also something's that some people won't like but I think if you bought the game you know what your gonna get. Some people won't like it and some people will. Anyways I am very excited for the game and will be playing day one

[@MikkiZHskDK]

i would MUCH rather want the first part of the choice system, having the game change the world around you and not just be a capture fort system with perks system is not good gameplay, its the same trope we have seen in 100 of games allready.. if this is the case i will not be buying dying light 2. :/ the thing that sold me was the choice system, not a generic base capture system with reward tied to it

[@ishaqedrees5849]

Hey they have a concealed reward for two factions I wanna know what those upgrades do

[@namesjunior]

Hey Kiwi, what do you think the next-gen DL1 upgrade will include?

[@darthvaderthegamecat]

Well I believe it’ll have enhanced textures, 4K 60, an option for Ray tracing, and possibly new content.

[@blank9585]

im so invested in dying light 2 that im the fifth comment on a youtubers video that i dont even watch lmao

[@t.t6294]

after firing Chris Avellone and re writing the story, I don't expect the story or the choices to be great tbh

[@orangecountyroleplaycommun7319]

Damn bro it's been a long time I remember you when I was playing the best dying light with you and dead Island we never finished it

[@ColossalKiwi]

Ayyy good times

[@orangecountyroleplaycommun7319]

@@ColossalKiwi we've been too long I thought you died to be honest

[@ColossalKiwi]

@@orangecountyroleplaycommun7319 Only on the inside

[@payne267]

Surprised Aussie wasn't involved tbh

[@ColossalKiwi]

He wanted to be, but there's a lot going on right now. Hopefully we can involve him in the next collaboration.

[@BigW541]

I really do hope this games does well and doesn’t pull a Cyberpunk at the very end. Also, I don’t understand the mindset of “A game doesn’t have a specific mechanic I wanted… Game bad!” I for one wouldn’t preorder, but we would need to wait till it comes out to make a verdict.

[@mikeliu3798]

I think without chris,it's extreamly hard for Techland to make DL 2 become another New vegas.As a fan of New vegas,I really really wise Techland can make it.But from the recent videos they just updataed,it's well-founded to think that they didn't make it.

[@BUILDASPLIFF]

I bet you'll get 100k subs not long after dying light 2 comes out

[@madmac223]

Personally I'm not too worried about the game. Will it be the next Fallout or Elder Scrolls? I don't think so. Will it be terrible? no. Tech land gave dying light 8 years of support, that's not just patches and updates but community events, DLC the works. I think it will be a welcome addition to the series and it will see lots of love far into the future. So for all of you runners out there... good night and good luck.

[@rizalgar3801]

going with survivors all the way I'm a big fan of Techlands parkour

[@mejovai3876]

I'm confused about the guy jumping off in the trailer. I think he knows he can't die. My evidence? in the trailer, he has no claw marks right after he got scratched....... And so I think he didn't die at the end of the trailer.. Also, I really want the NPCs' to have S.T.A.L.K.E.R-like system.

[@helloimhere599]

Oh wow

[@helloimhere599]

Eyyyy a heart thank you😄😄😄

[@TheBangooman]

I'm expecting another cybperpunk scenario here. Lots of promises of deep interactivity and meaningful choices to end up being a pretty linear game that doesn't hold any interest story wise past the second playthrough. If I'm wrong I'll be happily surprised, and if I'm right at least I won't get dissappointed and cheated.

[@kritche1245]

Safe to say you were roughly right. Wayyyy better launch than CP tho, but choices only killed characters and never really changed the story too much.

[@generalv3815]

yessir

[@Deadforge]

The choices in this game are more like Fallout 3, New vegas or an obsidian RPG.

[@KingKing-gw8fq]

How?

[@Deadforge]

@@KingKing-gw8fq Well for me the faction related stuff in the story and side quests but sadly it didn't end up having much of an impact on the end. I still enjoyed how great some of the side quests were and certain choice in the game. It's definitely one of the most vertical open worlds I've ever played. So I would now compare it more to TW3 choices but less impactful.

[@KingKing-gw8fq]

@@Deadforge yeah I wish we got the 2019 version of the game where there was a bunch of choices but hopefully that comes in a future DLC

[@Deadforge]

@@KingKing-gw8fq I hope so amd I think that happened due to Cyberpunk and the whole thing with the lead writer at the time so they had to chnage so much.

[@KingKing-gw8fq]

@@Deadforge nope the reason why the game changed is because of false sexual harassment claims against Chris avellone

[@yashmehta4087]

Imagine if kyle cryne showed in dying light 2 🔥

[@elpablo3344]

I know right!? Too bad it won’t happen :) Thank god…

[@yashmehta4087]

@@elpablo3344 how can u know ?

[@elpablo3344]

@@yashmehta4087 because Techland said a million times already that no DL1 characters are returning

[@BossMr51]

This feels like it'll need to be stepped into and played around with. Do i think it'll be inherently bad? No. But there's definitely room for it to either be the same lukewarm nonsense. Or great like games like until dawn, oblivion and fallout. At the very least It'll lead to no cities being exactly the same. Which is inherently a good thing.

[@CarnageReaper]

I am sure 100 different choices not exist Just 30 or more what I think

[@junkoenoshima6756]

I'm going to make ALL the wrong choices and see just how barbaric the city can get... despair is soon rising...

[@probebot171]

BWCH is cool.

[@sneedling]

what about detroit become human? that game got the choices down

[@ColossalKiwi]

So I've heard, I just haven't played it yet.

[@kosmicz3699]

oni sent me :}

[@TheUltrasora]

This video is age restricted on my ps5. I'm a 28 year man. Why?

[@Skylingale]

Detroit Become Human would've been a better example than Until Dawn imo. Great video anyways though!

[@ColossalKiwi]

True, I just haven't played it.

[@Skylingale]

@@ColossalKiwi Oh damn you gotta play it asap! It's an amazing game!

[@Jone991]

Fallout New Vegas? Its strange that you didnt mention Fallout 1 or 2 couse there are those choices.

[@JordanChar]

Ape together strong.

[@Opal-R]

I just want to kill zombies and do parkour if i don’t want to be locked out of content and have to make a new game to experience them. If I want a fallout new Vegas experience I would just play that but that’s my opinion

[@s77lom49]

All that player choice we saw back in 2018 is gone. There has been nothing advertised about it in the last couple of years as this is no longer the selling point. If that choice was still in the game, it would have been marketed. It hasn't because it isn't there. And it has nothing to do with revealing plot details.... they could still.maket the player choice without giving away much of the plot as they did in 2018. Gone I tell you. Now get over it. Edit - dont preorder Games

[@BigW541]

I do respect your opinion. Just the whole idea of “A game got rid of one element that I specifically wanted means game bad.” Is kinda silly. We would need to wait till the game comes out to make that verdict.

[@s77lom49]

@@BigW541 absolutely. I do not know if the game is good or bad. I'm incline to think it will still be a good game actually. Choices that have ramifications throughout the game means developers need to work that much harder to produce content and assets that may never be experienced by many of the player base, unless the player base is invested enough to experience it through multiple play throughs. This is the level of immersion that the player base wants but its very expensive to produce. Nonetheless, the game looks good, and hopefully will have a compelling story... Time will tell. I won't preorder only because it hurts the industry and so ill do my part in order to keep developers FOCUSED on what they should be doing to move the industry forward.

[@BigW541]

@@s77lom49 True, I for one wouldn’t preorder the game because never know it might pull a Cyberpunk at the very end. If this game becomes a flop, I’m gonna be very disappointed.

[@scrappy93]

They're probably smoking.

[@mejrikais6002]

Plus the recent build look nothing like E3 2019 demo full downgrade

[@shrooman768]

I think dl2 started going downhill when techland lost Avellone

[@shoemcflextheflex2199]

tbh i dont really care about the story i mean its a cool concept but im gonna be more focused on the parkour exploring the map and combat

[@kennedykomornik1844]

I remember watching a video where a guy played through The Walking Dead Season 1 choosing all the decisions that made Lee an Asshole. Like not giving kids food or shouting at Kenny when he is about to shoot his own son to prevent him from turning. I wonder if you will be able to turn Aiden into such a monster that when he maybe manages to find his sister she is dead or hates him.

[@Skylingale]

That makes no sense.

[@kennedykomornik1844]

@@Skylingale what doesn't make sense?

[@Skylingale]

@@kennedykomornik1844 Why would your sister be dead if you were an asshole to someone else? Lmao. Or how would she know about you being asshole to others if she's missing? That's what doesn't make sense.

[@kennedykomornik1844]

@@Skylingale The fact that she is missing doesn't have to mean that she doesn't know what happens in the city. Also maybe someone is helding her captive and wants to kill her if he doesn't like Aiden because of his actions?

[@nicobenji0248]

With as much goes into optimizing modern games a Fallout New Vegas type of game just won't work on current gen cause the focus is too heavy on graphics these days. So all these were cut cause it's just not feasible to develop a good looking game, with relatively few bugs, lots of gamemplay systems, branching story, and good graphics. You'd kill your dev team with those goals as seen with TW3, Cyberpunk 2077, and Metro Exodus. Optimizing seems to be much easier of a process on "next gen" systems so I can see games like Fallout New Vegas returning on those systems. I can see games being developed with fewer bugs on those systems. The biggest problem with the PS4/Xbox One generation was that ambitions were too high for those consoles. Just not feasible in terms of development unless you have Rockstar/2k $$$ and are willing to overwork your employees to hell and back. So I think they made a good choice in parting ways with the New Vegas writer cause that guy's ambition will literally murder that dev team. One of the Metro Exodus lead devs literally had an aneurism due to being overworked. If they scaled back graphics I'm sure a lot of their ambitions would be feasible. So the final product made the choice of focusing on gameplay systems, graphics, and optimization over a complex story

[@NSD150]

Honestly the game play is kind of disappointing, but the story is massively disappointing, it just sucks.

[@texasbeast2542]

The first game had level progression. Weapon crafting. A three section skill tree. It had a skill tree for legendary rank. How exactly was the first game not in RPG?

[@Ya-got-boyf]

Funny how things play out . Dying light made me get a Xbox one . Dying light 2 is pushing me get an Xbox one X . This game is a straight up console seller .

[@Croat955]

I dont like it

[@Nerinae_]

Unfortunately dying light 2 looks very bad. Rpg elements, simple plot and outposts wtf is this?

[@beyondtrash1627]

Well that's a take I haven't heard before lol.

[@MasonIsKing]

If you think it looks bad we'll then you've looked but you ain't seen. This game is and will be amazing

[@BigW541]

I for one wouldn’t pre-order. I understand games can flop when they release just like Cyberpunk. But Saying the game is going to be bad because it doesn’t have one element that you like is a bit of a stretch to me. We would need to wait till it comes out.