GAME SINS | Everything Wrong With Dying Light 2: Stay Human

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

Aiden’s missing sister has the same name as Ethan’s missing wife: Mia, because they’re both Missing In Action.

[@mattbauman55]

Holy shit my head just exploded

[@Deadspace123100]

I can’t tell if that’s clever, dumb, or maybe both.

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

@@Deadspace123100 I call it lazy naming 😆

[@kamikazelemming1552]

I'm surprised more people didn't comment this.

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

@SNEEDman [Formerly Chuck’s] Blame Capcom for thinking that RE7 was “too scary”. I can’t imagine what kind of moron would want to dial down the horror aspects of a horror game.

[@workinprogress49]

I think every story department needs at least two or three people whose sole purpose is to rip apart every possible plot hold that comes up. Yes those people will be hated but damn it will the plot be more solid

[@stickydickrick]

Fuck yes,that's a solid idea. Because this game is dogshit

[@Skyrim_Elder]

@@stickydickrick The story*

[@andylaw3222]

That's a great idea!!!

[@roberthudley2548]

Bro you out here creating jobs!I would be great at this.

[@KingThrillgore]

We call this a writers room and it sounds like Techland fired them

[@Carlisho]

Bro that whole “get me my new shoes” part gotta be the dumbest quest ever in the history of videogames

[@mrwog82]

IKR? I actually believed she was purposely setting the player up to learn something and would then explain it later. Nope! She just wanted her shoes and was actually PISSED that we learnt the truth in the process!

[@Sarah-qx4vz]

I’d rather get mama chocolate in the first game than that. Damn.

[@mrwog82]

@@Sarah-qx4vz ha! So true! At least that was believable.

[@lm_slayer1]

@@mrwog82 the game heavily implies lawan uninvertidely wanted to let aiden in on to who she really is, but at the same time, didn't. She was conflicted about finding the right approach ever since hakon, it doesn't take 2 brain cells to figure it out, yall actually thought she gave a shit about the shoes

[@mrwog82]

@@lm_slayer1 As I said, it did seem that she wanted him to find out with her obvious set up, but was still mad later because she told him not to touch anything else. As if him finding out was some big accident despite the photo of her and Hakon being in the shoe box she sent him for. I guess since the game tells you she was too emotional to join the night runners, my response would be "damn straight she is!!"

[@iattacku2773]

Honestly this game should have had a zombie power skill tree as aiden becomes more zombie. It fits with the title being “ stay human “ they can balance it out with making stronger infected enemies. Also my biggest gripe with the story is that despite him being the secondary antagonist you don’t meet the butcher until the end of the game. It would have been cool to meet him sooner so he can explain his side of the story.

[@Trojianmaru]

I was constantly hoping we'd be able to use his transformation powers at will eventually, even if just after we finished the main campaign. I wanted to use it in free-roam, but I feel like the best we'll ever get, is maybe a 1v4 multiplayer mode, or those meh side games that take place in a bubble.

[@denverarnold6210]

I feel like that was originally intended with the Butcher, because if I recall right, the demo that was shown some years ago WAS the mission getting into his compound.

[@sufferordie3412]

@@denverarnold6210 Yep I definitely recall that too, although the room the Butcher was in may have been a boss fight during the demo

[@denverarnold6210]

@@sufferordie3412 i believe it was an option to fight him.

[@sufferordie3412]

@@denverarnold6210 Ah, that sounds right

[@feroxfire4128]

Should’ve, Could’ve, Would’ve: .Played as Lawan, starting as a child and being taken in by Frank, having the tutorial be her years of training .Make the Night-runners a neutral faction that runs for the whole city .Remove all the GRE and Waltz stuff .Double down on the factions, the number of choices and the consequences of those choices .Make the Butcher the main antagonist .End the game with a climatic city wide fight that, depending on your choices, is either… - PK’s vs Renegades - Survivors vs Renegades - PK’s & Survivors vs Renegades Maybe even include the Renegades as a joinable faction for the endgame and throw in some stuff with a Volatile Crane

[@IamaPERSON]

That would’ve been awesome, fighting Volatile Crane with a few unique abilities.

[@jessi4225]

"Played as Lawan, starting as a child and being taken in by Frank, having the tutorial be her years of training" This on it's own would be a sin as well. Taking the beginning from Horizon Zero Dawn and just plopping it into a different game, but instead of giant robots, it's zombies

[@IamaPERSON]

@Arakius I did.

[@IamaPERSON]

@Arakius a bit of both, my bad. I don’t watch him anymore, because I’m sick of the bots in the comments. Here, I don’t really see bots, so I don’t worry about them.

[@sandplanet471]

fucking this. The writer’s of the story must’ve been high or drunk or both.

[@albertoagnello1113]

The idea of changing the map by siding w a faction or another was a huge selling point, I was shocked when I discovered the only time you can alter the city like in the showcase was ONLY during the last mission... Game fun cause parkour zombie, but as you said at the beginning, 7 years for this...

[@Second_Splitter]

They were talking about the faction system when you give water towers/electrical stations which ends up with the faction you choose to control that area + you get certain structures/guns within that area that you can use.

[@Second_Splitter]

@Alexandry Dumass Yeah the main reason I got dying light 2 was just for the really good parkour. Tbh I didn't expect anything too crazy from Techland since a lot of that time was development hell and people getting laid off.

[@nektarios5291]

I think people tend to forget that making one BBB game that did unexpectedly doesn't mean that you go from indie developer to ubisoft overnight and every game you make subsequently is going to be the witcher and skyrim meets GTA 5. It's pretty difficult to make an open world game full stop. Tbf the story was shite, but so is the story for valhalla and a lot of games. Ubisoft cranks them out every 18 months because they're a giant company and they just use them as money spinners. Ffs it even took Rockstar 5 years between GTA 5 and RDR2, and they've been making AAA open world games since 2001. Edit: As I said the writing and story is absolutely trash, but I don't think that issue has anything to do with the length of development cycle, some of the best games ever made storyline wise were rushed buggy messes when they released, whereas other games that took years had unbelievably shit storylines (mass effect andromeda for example). So I don't think 7 years guarantees you a good game story wise anymore than waiting for 7 years for a film sequel means it'll be well written. Two different things entirely imo.

[@randomdude189]

It wasn’t fun at all

[@naciabell7903]

They should've kept crane as the main character after he became a sentient volatile, maybe work in the "stay human" mechanics and make it so that he has the appearance of a human for the majority of the game/masks himself and becomes a volatile in dark areas, maybe they could've had a story of him having learned to control himself yet fully use his volatile powers to protect humans. It could allow for a skill tree specific to volatile powers, maybe dlc? i know i'd buy that. Imagine how awesome that would be, not to mention story wise it would be interesting too. Something tells me this was the initial idea with some of the mechanics, like when you have to escape areas before you turn.

[@Sarah-qx4vz]

Yeah but then there’s no fear factor for night, you know?

[@Skyrim_Elder]

@@Sarah-qx4vz besides the endless volatiles

[@Sarah-qx4vz]

@@Skyrim_Elder assuming he can be a volatile in darkness, the rest of the infected wouldn’t take notice

[@russellbordersjr1144]

dude that actually sounds awesome

[@marchello_mamamia4287]

@@Skyrim_Elder they won’t be endless when they’re one shot

[@LetsReadPodcast]

The fact the roof tops, after only 15 years since the fall, with zero ground soil, are riddled with 50 year old looking trees and stumps - whose roots presumably would have nowhere to root. Thank God my HOA enforces strict rooftop mowing and maintenance 👨‍🔧 I’m still just salty that they could’ve just released this sequel with the same engine as the first game and it would still be superior in every conceivable way.

[@DeadHardTV]

I still can't forgive them the fact that zombies didn't fall of the building edges...

[@Trojianmaru]

Sin 30, aka the Poisoned water, pissed me off so much. It was obvious to me that the water guy would try and kill me to protect his secret, if I told him straight that I wouldn't keep his secret, plus he had no way of knowing if I would keep my word of I promised not to tell. So I lied, said sure, and took his bribe, but planned to tell the truth anyway. Then the game locks you into that choice, and forces you to keep it a secret even though you don't have any reason to once you get back to the bazzar. I fully intended to tell the truth, but instead Aiden keeps his word, and let's an innocent man die. 2nd time I did the quest, I was honest and told the man I would tell the bazzar everything, and he OBVIOUSLY tried to kill me. I mean shit, it's the same kind of stupid decision we all make fun of dumb crime show and horror movie characters for making "you're a murderer, and only I know! I'm gonna tell you loud and clear that once I walk out of this room, that we are currently in alone together, I'm gonna tell the cops and get you killed. Now put down the knife and unlock the door, so I can go get you killed pretty please. ZOMG WHO WOULD OF GUESSED YOU'D KILL ME TO KEEP YOUR SECRET?! WHAT A SURPRISE! "

[@denverarnold6210]

The logic is worse for the survivors in the beginning. It went: 1: Help survivors with the water tower 2: find evidence in the leader's brother's hidey hole 3: not wanting to pick a side or escalate, return to the bazaar to talk. 4: 5: blow the fuck up a windmill. He just goes along with their plan for no goddamn reason. No choice led me to that, beside not being "Fuck you guys, the PKs know what they're doing."

[@ChrisCAR5]

Chill out

[@as300remi2]

I had the same problem

[@randomdude189]

It’s not worth playing when you can’t affect the story. Same reason rdr2 was bad. Honor system on dictated between 2 convene options and you can’t play how you want at all

[@Tainted_Twan]

Don’t forget how many times aiden passed out every other cutscenes

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

Dude he gets sucker punched in the jaw nearly every cutscene as well.

[@Tainted_Twan]

@@JudeTheKZbinPoopersubscribe especially in the final boss he passes out after every phase

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

@@Tainted_Twan it's probably a way the devs used to set up the next scene outside of the players vision or to warp aiden to a different location. The one part that made me laugh is when you are running away from waltz and lawan closes the door in your face every time 😂. Man this game can be hella scuffed but I fucking love it

[@geoffbrown5621]

Bro just beat the game. I noticed that .

[@randomdude189]

I stopped playing after the intro

[@The_Archer-he2ft]

I love how they made a big deal out of the story in this but it sounds more convoluted and ridiculous than the 1st game. Also that boss fight with waltz looks worse than those expiremental infected who are like minibosses

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

Idk why anyone expected a decent story. All of techlands zombie games have had average stories. I did enjoy dl2's main quest though for what it was.

[@unk594]

@@JudeTheKZbinPoopersubscribe They fired one of the main writers who did most of the writing and then scrapped all their work since of the sexual assault allegations, which is the reason they got fired too.

[@coffeebreakhero3743]

@@JudeTheKZbinPoopersubscribe I find it morbidly hilarious that decent > average

[@JayJay_18_]

@@unk594 he did a few story drafts and couldn’t do much more considering he was fired then. They did keep some of his work + the story was barely changed

[@Second_Splitter]

@@unk594 and y’all still are expecting 7 years worth of development.

[@ezekcerve]

My biggest gripe is how grim the world is made to be. Imagine you live in Goodsprings, Nevada, or and Island on the coast of Ireland. The virus wouldnt even reach you. But most spectacular is the gun plot hole. The city was apparently raided and ammo ran out, but if the peacekeepers halted the military/renegades, they would've had firepower and the ability to make it. Not to mention military convoys that have been left out have axes and katanas inside even though they would have guns and ammo, unless you're saying the military took their guns when they left but not their transportation and left museum items in their place, also there shouldnt be tennis ball grenades in a labratory left shut before the need arose. Just like with military medkits, the game should've had items from before (guns, grenades, and practical melee weapons) and items made after like the "honey flower medkit".

[@diemitrimoran2963]

It’s pushing the idea upon us that guns are useless, which is in fact, not true, sometimes games like this program us to think a certain way, it’s just bullshit, guns could have and SHOULD have been in this game but they weren’t, and I strongly believe it was because they just flip flopped so much with what they wanted to put in the game

[@BapiBoozle]

@@diemitrimoran2963 They didn't push any ideas about guns. They knew what their strength was in the first game, and it wasn't the fucking guns. Guns in 1 felt like ASS and were obviously very strong. They needed a better reason for why there wouldn't be any, but the fact they're not in the game is good.

[@nagyzoli]

@@diemitrimoran2963 First game explains it. Gunshot attracts the faster, stronger zombies, and they are enough to swarm you no matter how many guns and ammo you have

[@FatesxofxthexDead]

@@BapiBoozle as someone that never bothered with guns in 1, it's pointless to say that when you can take out hoards just by standing on top of cars or on top of spikes (in the spikes case you just drop down and it pushes all the zombies behind you into the spikes. Combat is easy in general and dying at night in endgame only really amounts to being swarmed. It's not that guns make it too easy, the game itself is too easy. It's really fun don't get me wrong but it's an easy walk in the park. I cleared out the bridge for luls with melee weapons on my last new game. Also I didn't like using guns in 1 because you kept getting the runners.

[@connorsucks3847]

Guns will almost certainly be the focus of an upcoming dlc. Its been hinted at that there was a massive stockpile of weapons somewhere in the city and I wouldn't be surprised if they become the focus of a story dlc as it would be insanely powerful for whichever faction got a hold of them. I'm guessing the reason they didn't have guns in the base game was to incentivise engaging with the improved melee combat because at a certain point in the og game it was easy as hell to clear out anything with a decent shotgun and that would remove much of the challenge from this game (which is already much easier than the first dying light due to nights being a lot safer). My assumption is that the player will be able to get a decent variety of guns however they will cause volatiles to chase you at night or attract large groups of enemies during the day

[@nooby-uh7dm]

It should be counted as a sin that Aidan passes out in nearly every mission

[@ripwitch9833]

I remember laughing when the first trailer for DL2 was shown and their main selling point was that the choices will actually matter.

[@landismithCOJ]

Thank you, Dartigan. Now that you mention it, why hasn't Mario ever had a first person game? He jumps just as much as Kyle Crane or Aiden. I vote for House of Ashes. Forbidden West after.

[@MrEoin1986]

Yes please house of ashes

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

Because unlike Kyle Crane or Aiden, Mario is too iconic to remain hidden by the first person view. You gotta keep Mario visible via third person camera the whole time. That, and third person makes platforming easier.

[@BDuckification]

@@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight that sounds like Mario odysey smh

[@anthonyrios2311]

Well, there was Yoshi's Safari.

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

@@anthonyrios2311 And Mario Kart. Even though it’s not a jumping game, you still have to see Mario onscreen every time you play as him. No point in playing that kind of game in first person.

[@keaton3889]

10:40 Hakon was a nighrunner, and they take lots of inhibitors, which boost strength, stamina, and immunity. Of course he would be able to last longer, since at this point, Aiden has only had 2.

[@talentkid234]

There are tons of things like this that makes me think the narrator didn’t even play the game

[@LuffyxNamiisathing]

@@talentkid234 why would he? Horrible game

[@buttholelicker1874]

@@LuffyxNamiisathing Bc he’s reviewing the game ??

[@TheCyberfoxGod69]

@@talentkid234 agreed

[@jelly442]

@@LuffyxNamiisathing You haven’t played it either 💀

[@jerlocaldilf1318]

Never knew how much more I would love the first game after watching you play this. I could barely sit through the plot of this game let alone the teleportation enemies and characters have. I'm surprised you didn't add how the brute teleported to the top of the building you were on without a sound. Great vid cant wait for whichever is next!

[@The_Archer-he2ft]

They truly gave up on any realism, they should add a secret zombie with teleporting abilities that just likes to screw with the main character for the next zombie game techland makes

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

@@The_Archer-he2ft true lol. I am able to fly around the city on a fucking broom 😂

[@rifqiamru574]

Honestly after what I've seen they may as well make the game's tone a comedy like Sunset Overdrive. At least with those they can excuse the weird stuff with some sort of goofy tech or something

[@capthavic]

I'd like a sin for making the rebels ending objectively the best one despite coming off just as violent and dickish as the PK and making me want both factions to piss off.

[@Doomguyalsotheslayer]

Pk actually helps tbh

[@crazydynamite_1003]

You can also have an ending with renegade taking over the city with Juan and Colonel in charge, probably the worst ending.

[@TheCyberfoxGod69]

@@Doomguyalsotheslayerthey don't tho they only care about thier own group, if they control the water and power they will only allow the majority for them instead of allowing anyone to use as much as they want, they also are very authoritarian and have strict laws to the point they will torture u in public just for trying to loot a house for food cuz your starving. They also force survivors to give a majority of thier food and stuff to them for "protection" yet they don't do alot of it, considering I saw 2 dumb pks standing around while a guy got mugged. They will search people's homes without warrant and against thier will and take anything they see as too powerful or dangerous. They also will murder people just because they don't agree with them or because they had powerful weapons. The pks are worse than the survivors, and act like Rais did in the first game as compared to the average Joe's who are just trying to survive I can't blame thier actions for being "rebels" because they are just trying to survive. The survivors are rebeling against the pks cuz the pks are forcing thier ways on the people and are protecting people who don't want thier protection and thus expect them to hand over thier stuff for payment. The pks were literally evil side as Matt knew about the chemical strikes and didn't warn the people and tried to kill frank. He had his agenda for control over the people while the survivors just want to survive. Tbh can you blame a bunch of "rebels" for wanting to fight back after being oppressed by another faction that basically represents an authoritarian government? Tbh they don't need the pks order neither because the survivors literally have thier own way of order like trial and evidence and do things like the old world used to not in a barbaric way like the pks do. The pks aren't understanding at all, while the survivors are and pose lenanent punishment compared to the pks.

[@teamalmighty124]

@@crazydynamite_1003 Even though Dartigan said you couldn't side with them

[@rotshepherd3817]

@@crazydynamite_1003 how is it the worst? At least the colonel wanted to save the city from Waltz

[@kierantrunkwald2634]

I honestly had no idea how many plot holes were in this until watching this video… 7 years definitely wasn’t spent on going over the finer details 😂

[@denverarnold6210]

I see themes and intents throughout the story that give it a good foundation, but so much of it seems to be thrown together from multiple drafts from half written scripts. I have a few points of speculation from what I remember: 1: Lawan was supposed to be the female main character. From having a more interesting story and personality, to being a loner, to being roughly on par the few times she's directly with you, she seemed like she was originally going to be a choice of a female protagonist, with Aiden the male. And/or a co-op character. 2: The Butcher. Given how much he's talked up, I'm fairly certain he was either supposed to be the main antagonist, with Waltz either added later or a more subtle or even secret villain. The demo we saw before, years ago, literally spoiled half the endgame, and I don't think they would do that unless it was one option of an ending, or they were a joinable faction. For example, if I recall right, they had said that our actions would drastically alter the city, and possibly even it's landscape; specifically flooding parts of it. And there is a dam that is important enough to add to the game and have a location marker, but never visit. I think that the renegades would have destroyed the dam in order to take out the PK base with a wave, forcing it to crash into the city buildings. But I'm rambling on this point by now. 3: Volatile Aiden. I don't have much for this besides the fact it was added to the game at all, but I feel like it may have been intended to be an actual mechanic, whether triggerable, or being out too long caused it, and UV ending it, but the rapid onset of it, in spite of (or because of) inhibitors, and how he was seemingly so special in the experiments, it stands to reason that combined with being so close to a cure, and him likely having that almost cure, gave him some control while under the infection's influence, possibly similar to the matriarch in the first DLC..

[@yutro213]

This is what happens when *Chris Avallone* work is dismissed!

[@JayJay_18_]

Lawan was never going to be a main protagonist and waltz and the colonel existed in 2019 considering a mission tab was leaked showing the mission “let’s waltz”

[@Justin-ym5ce]

Omg that end boss was THE worst of all time, I was literally yelling at my tv for this game to be over

[@capthavic]

Same. One of those "thank God it's finally over" games.

[@cicl1680]

i got the bugged boss fight and it sucks . made me restart

[@sickandafraid]

@@cicl1680 mines wasn’t bugged, but the boss fight was still horrendous. Especially the part where he just runs around in circles, charges at you, then just endlessly swings his arms around so awkwardly. I’ve never felt so dissatisfied with a game’s ending.

[@cicl1680]

Good for you atleast you got to finish it mine is walts is OP he kills me in 2 hits his attacks are AOE and the room is dark with the chemicals closing in on us .

[@cicl1680]

@asta v2 i play souls and souls like games . and my experience with my bug in dying light 2 boss fight is not part of the game

[@elam3654]

I love how after that radio mission, the security faction still controls the vnc tower AND the elevator works. Even if Aiden picked the survivor faction... the security forces could still just send a dude up the elevator and change the settings.

[@OtterlyFriendly]

I'm surprised that you didn't sin the informant that you meet in the subway tunnel another time. I think he deserves another sin for telling you to get to the tunnel as fast as possible because he needs help, just for him to not be there to unlock the door and cause for Aiden to be attacked by a volatile and get bit. Which caused for the whole infection thing to happen to Aiden, Aiden almost dying to the Bazaar residents, and Aiden having the adverse effects from the inhibitors(i might be wrong on what caused for him to go volatile whether it be the bite or inhibs) and some other things lol. But at the same time, I think without Aiden going volatile, Aiden would totally get wrecked by Waltz in a fight.

[@springheeledjackofthegurdi2117]

alcohol can prevent several types of poisoning (Mike Malloy is a good example) but I believe it needs to already be in your system before consuming the poisons to be effective

[@johnnyreddington6333]

Although you never read the comments, one vote for dark pictures. It was truly the best one since until dawn by far

[@PseudonymX]

If he dosent read the comment then how are we supposed to vote anyways?

[@danielf6201]

House of ashes is so good 👍

[@twinku1]

He should be expected to read the comments. We keep his channel “in business.”

[@andreyu5640]

No

[@donenglish7572]

This video made me feel better for feeling mostly confused and thinking I missed stuff. The game equivalent of 'it's not you..it's me'.....

[@SpiritDK]

are we sure Aiden is not just in a coma somewhere after having fallen 12364578 miles and landing on his head, with the amount of inconsistencies, forgetfulness, false memories and so on and on and on, I'm pretty sure after just watching this video about the game I'm developing plot amnesia, there should be a warning label on this game

[@saisundernarous9137]

Your choices matter but not really. Only three choices affect the ending you get. That said for story missions who you side with gives you different missions. Bazaar blows up the wind mill, Pks you get a. Tunnel segment where your trapped because the wind mill gets blown up. For Juan and Matt Juan sends you to a tech Savant to bug the communications and he lives in a massive church with a demolisher. Matt you get the mission Dart showed. Also you can get another mid game waltz fight instead of fighting Hakon in the Jaun route If you side with Juan Frank dies anyway, Lawan goes to the island and kills everyone. Also it makes the most sense, story, persoanlity, and gameplay wise to side with the Bazaar but I’m sad they got no sins for being just the most disgusting, evil assholes. Even when you side Against the Peacekeepers the survivors try to kill aiden the most. (If you include Side quests. Counting only main story it stays even) Also no sun for them trying to hang aiden? You are the best roaster and the best when it comes to taking apart the details of the game. The reason stated they try to hang Aiden is he’s turning, makes sense. But in the cutscene someone asks why don’t they use a shovel? And then it comes up later that the whole bazaar can’t take on One infected man, despite fighting peace keeper squads, and that hanging him was the “only” way. Despite the fact uv lights are everywhere

[@bravepigster]

4:56 You forgot to sin that Waltz didn’t even check for a vein before jamming a whole needle in his arm and injecting him with mystery liquid.

[@thatsjassie]

I ended up going with the Peacekeepers because the survivors were annoying and I hated Barney lol overall I enjoyed the game but it was wayyyyyy more zombies in the first game. I vote for House of Ashes and then Horizon.

[@elliesaint1984]

The two peacekeepers with water pouring out of their coats had me laughing 😂

[@The_Hunta62]

The reason aiden didn’t experience the affects of the experiments was because he wasn’t infected until he entered the city

[@shortbread8941]

Great video, was looking for someone to pick this mess apart, made me laugh. Though was surprised you didn't mention how broken the beginning of waltz chase scene was, perhaps you didn't notice. When you look up in window some random guys throwing knives at you whilst she's shouting run, but your running away from nothing until the bit he bursts through the door. I think techland should be embarrassed and hit the drawing board on how to fix everything in this game

[@rzrkasper]

in the part where you were running away from walts with lawan, you should have added a sin for the doors in that sequence. They had an awfully slow delay before opening and they led to a dumb cutscene of aiden opening the door either way

[@melissapoling3768]

So normally when I play open world games, I'm kind of a completionist. I didn't do the challenges so much as every side quest in the first game. But when I played this game I had trouble doing even one of the side quests. I was quickly getting bothered by the fact that both factions who were willing to help Aiden required him to help them multiple times before even giving him one ounce of what he needed. I was getting annoyed by the very slow pacing when it came to the main story, but I dunno, I guess I'm just getting impatient anymore 😕🤷‍♀

[@SATELLITEDOWN7735]

19:20 I feel like getting infected and starting to take inhibitors and the experiments combined produce this effect, although I agree it wasn't looked into as much as it should have been

[@austinbyrd7820]

The infamous games do a great job incorporating the parkour with the power fantasy game play and the story of 1 and 2 is considered amazing by the fans

[@stefaniverson2739]

A lot of these sins are super valid, BUT my playthrough was significantly different from yours. Even if it’s true there are only 4 major choices, my missions were vastly different from yours in many spots. Just as my first and second playthroughs were different from each other. All in all this game is very much like the first Dying Light. Story and characters suck but the gameplay keeps me hooked. Still had a lot of fun over 100 hours

[@snakekingblues3017]

Really hard to make me care about the Survivor side when first thing they do is try to hang you then when you help them they keep questioning your loyalty when aiden never said he was on their side I just end up helping frank

[@Amayawolf_01]

*#25:* "Hakon has been in the dark just as long as Aiden" I didn't think about this when I was playing, my thought was that I had been in the dark *waaaaay* longer than the default timer of about 5 mins when first getting the bracelet. I guess I just assumed his "immunity timer" was longer than mine. Either way, Aiden should've turned a lot sooner

[@Foodsipper]

It's a biomarker not a bracelet. Lol jk call it whatever you want

[@mindstouchworlds808]

My guess was that since Hakon was a Nightrunner and Nightrunner famously used Inhibiters to increase their strength. I assumed that Hakon immunity was higher.

[@SharkmanAdidas]

@@mindstouchworlds808But how did they get the inhibitors? Every inhibitor you find in the game needs to be opened with a GRE key and Aiden is the only one with the key…

[@iker9148]

@@SharkmanAdidas prob before the down fall or when he was with the night runners they stacked them

[@BlaqAdam]

Waltz is discount Wesker.

[@LJAndrews1986]

My favourite game savage on the Internet, this will be brilliant as per usual.

[@arid1233]

3:43 A GRE recorder said something about how in a few weeks of the virus leaking out of the lab, half the world’s population would be infected. My question is: How? Is the virus airborne, is it more infectious, does it no longer require a bite to spread it? How the virus spread during the opening stages of the outbreak makes no sense. Add one more sin

[@leonrussell9607]

These zombies can run and do parkour in the early stages of infection, they'd catch a lot of people

[@bravepigster]

Starting out I was like: bruh, they really went with the “I’m looking for my long lost family member” plot.

[@Xplici_T]

Pretty funny that your playthrough was about the same as mine, choices wise. I was hoping to not regret pre-ordering the game but I think the more I look into it, the more I have to change my positive review into a negative one.

[@loganlewis3843]

Thanks dartigan, truly happy to see you’re still makin videos and I really hope people discover you and get those views back up to the 100ks

[@camwyn256]

35:44 "I only sin glitches for two reasons; they're omnipresent or unique." But which one is this water pouring out of the Peacekeepers jackets? Omnipresent or unique?

[@KingEndymionrose]

Let me just say this I'm happy you still making videos I really enjoyed the gaming sins type of videos alot💗.

[@J4nT3mpl4r]

Why did you do the rebel playthrough? They fuck you over at every chance and then expect everything to work out with a half-assed apology.

[@warriorofcelestia]

2:27 thank you. i'm glad you brought that up. because both the following and dying light 2 both made me feel this.

[@williamedwards4151]

My biggest problem with the game were the cut-scenes before a fight. Every single jackass that starts a fight with you always gets a sucker punch on you. You're supposed to be a badass, and you can be a badass in actual gameplay, but the moment a cut-scene happens, you turn into some chump who gets sucker punched every 10 seconds. I hated it. In fact, Aiden is just an overall chump in most cut-scenes. Made it really hard to like him.

[@dirtyshinobii]

I swear, at the end of the game Aiden probably has brain damage by the amount of times he's fallen over and gotten bashed in the head

[@SequavisTooSwag]

you missed so many sins of aiden just standing around watching something and waiting to get detected or getting jumped in the most obvious ways

[@Evanz111]

Damn, I really thought more highly of this game before watching this. This is Telltale levels of story choice - and they really went all in on advertising it. Hell, Cyberpunk 2077 did a better job.

[@Baheloo]

Bro what are you on? Cyberpunk did better? ☠️

[@Dnap7]

? Hakon will remember that

[@mrwog82]

@@Baheloo Cyberpunk did do a better job with story, they just failed at literally everything else.

[@noisemaker807]

I mean Cyberpunk was so overhyped than Dying light Sure Cyberpunk did a better story than Dying light 1 and 2 but was the hype all that worth it? no all we want for dying light was parkour and drop kicking CD Projekt Red was known for witcher 3's story TechLand is known for their parkour system Did Cyberpunk did a goodjob in story telling? NO Did TechLand improve from the first game? Meh (Yes but not too much, still bland) But did TechLand Disappoint players with their parkour? For me no, some might say yes but i'm still satisfied

[@DashLashBoy]

Dying Light 2 definitely had some pretty trivial choices, however some choices actually mattered IMO and you could do 2-3 playthroughs and all of them being pretty different. I do agree though it's very underwhelming compared to the marketing

[@ledooni]

23:15 yes, he had cancer but you‘d only find that out siding with the PKs throughout the second half of the game. Same goes for a lot of background story of the Nightrunners. If you don‘t side with the Survivors (and give the radio tower to Frank) you‘ll never figure out Frank‘s and Hakon‘s background and motivations. That is probably the worst handling of decisions I‘ve ever seen in a video game.

[@TBear-pv1ex]

My main problem with DL2 is that there hasn't really been any progression whatsoever over 10 years. I thought there would be a faction of sentient volatile, more variants of volatile, and more GRE control (whether it be in the shadows or up-front). Kinda wish that there was some sort of "super" inhibitor that would make an appearance. That Volatiles would be more active. Most of all, make Waltz a secondary antagonist and give the protag a reason to fight other than wanting to "rescue" Mia and having no real plan to do anything after that (copying what spike said about settling down, especially in the context of Aidan then truly believing Mia to be his sister is low key disturbing, shows very little thought on what to do afterwards).

[@ColdEmperor]

I appreciate your hard work. Well done bro.

[@spadesandaces4543]

6:30 Considering they killed the previous lackeys who were interrogating him and waltz clearly lacks super hearing it seems reasonable he could’ve potentially manipulated him and lead him on a wild goose chase to potentially have a slim chance of escape

[@rahulguleria6654]

A full monologue for one sin in the beginning, you should've given at least 5 sins straightaway

[@louisduarte8763]

I totally forgot what happened in the 1st game, so I'll have to watch the video for that one to care. And that opening with the burn intended for Cyberpunk 2077's developers? Funny but painful. I don't understand why there are 2 human factions at all, when the common enemy are the zombies. Same with The Last of Us.

[@crazydynamite_1003]

Different groups of people believe in different way of governing/problem solving. When they can’t come to terms/agreements, war is very likely to happen. The last of us and dying light are both setting in an environment that the people are used to the new norm (constant zombie threats) and progress as human societies, and eventually comes to the point that other groups of survivors might be more dangerous than zombies, just like normal societies we currently live in.

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

This story was so convoluted that I had to rewind several parts and re-read them to process them. Honestly I would have never picked up on most of these sins myself because I would not be invested in these characters enough to care. The DL1 story was very to the point, with a few twists thrown in and easy to follow. DL2 is like a bad episode of real housewives.

[@vyuzen5464]

can we add another sin for how overblaringly easy combat was? i literally cheesed hakon by shooting arrows and dropkicking him into a corner hell, i could probably have done it without the arrows, and you can chew through streets easily with melee weapons and you dont even have to use them, you can just dropkick the zombies and it does a fair job

[@superderfmen]

I’m starting to think that they actually are encouraging you to go with the peacekeepers in the most unsubtle way possible with the most unbelievable characters. Think about it, at every turn the survivors are at your throat and at least half the time the peacekeepers are reasonable and actually appreciate your work. And the other half they reasonably declare you an enemy when you give them every reason to do it. Hell, even the nightrunner leader introduction is a drunken jackass who you don’t care about just as much as everyone else. Now I don’t agree with the way they presented and executed it (like at all cause holy fuck is it not subtle whatsoever) but I’m starting to think you’ll have a lot better of a time if you side with the peacekeepers.

[@WingsOfFreedom07]

31:47 The shield that guards the realms of man... this game's writing is on the level of fanfiction writers 😅

[@capthavic]

Yeah I literally was like "you're not joining the night's watch, fuck off" when I saw that part.

[@limecat7996]

if you side with jaun you end up basically siding with the renegades, because they end up getting the tower/city. also if you read the collectables i think it is you find out matt has cancer and thats why hes got the cough.

[@archstanton9073]

Killing a horse that is wounded after it fell off a cliff isn't psychotic. It's humane.

[@SATELLITEDOWN7735]

Only if you have a very rudimentary idea of horses, and a poor idea of how to care for

[@OneDumbOrangeCat]

@@SATELLITEDOWN7735 Well think about it, if you forget to pack anything that can be used, and have no quick way to get back home it's more humane to kill it there instead of leaving it to suffer for several hours.

[@crazydynamite_1003]

I think asking your little grandson to kill it is the psychotic part.

[@RavensSoTired]

Exactly horses can't get cast, this guy who does these videos doesn't do research. All he does is whine like a baby

[@RavensSoTired]

@@SATELLITEDOWN7735 you have never had horses that is painfully obvious🙄 when horse breaks his leg they have to be put to sleep, dummy the can't have a cast

[@klumsyninja9073]

This video came out sooner than I expected. Bravo

[@BadAssXerx3]

great Video as always, the streams were fun

[@ivan5604]

I like how you didn’t mention that Aiden landed on an armored vehicle at the factory which probably wouldn’t have cushioned the fall at all like traditional aluminum panels on normal cars

[@jayquickscope4446]

The panels on "normal cars" are steel nice try though

[@idontknowlolgivemesoemthi]

2:50 Actually,Crane learned that it would take camden too long to create a vaccine instead of there being no vaccine.

[@allsparkwarrier]

I goddamn knew that the choices weren't gonna affect the world other than how it looked. That whole choice system was one of the huge reasons I wanted to play the game, so disappointed that was a let down

[@likwid_smoke]

The classic illusion of choice lol

[@chasemiles2166]

Even after all the bugs I found in this game, I couldn’t even watch the entire last cinematic cutscene at the end because the game just cut out half way through.

[@giilameshxx5794]

We Love For These Bro , Keep it Going

[@Devs-mt7bj]

Babe wake up dartigan posted a sins video

[@travisb.honest2438]

This game is in the same boat as FNAF Security Breach, alot of this game seemd to be left on the cutting room floor.

[@dudebropog8750]

No?

[@fatalwaffle1715]

Awesome video! But I didn't know the game is already released.

[@somerandomperson9670]

Something about the waltz fight that bothered me before i updated was the fact that arrows absolutely destroyed him and that every hit he landed did one bar of health, so when i got to the final phase of the fight where aiden turns into a temporary volatile, i did am embarrassingly small amount of damage so i had to plan out how i would fight waltz so I didn't get my ass beaten, but since the update arrows were nerfed in the fight and aidens volatile strength was increased as to balance the fight out.

[@DarkAttackYT]

I honestly don't know if I should buy this game because I'm afraid I'm not gonna like it as much as the first game, especially gameplay-wise. From what I have seen, DL2's combat looks very arcade-y and less physic-based.

[@willlumis8126]

I love it lol it’s got lot of hate but it’s good

[@iattacku2773]

It’s cool. Though it is more floaty

[@haraldjohansen1867]

I liked the first one better. I quit the game before reaching the ending because of numerous bugs and glitches. I really wanted to like it but it has so many problems.

[@Trojianmaru]

It all depends on what you liked about DL1 really. The combat is fun, but due to the character spending years fighting zombies and parkour-ing their way through wastelands (and other spoiler reasons) they start off much better at fighting and Parkour than Crane did. The environment is also a lot more bland, but that's because it's been years since the zombie outbreak, so the city has become overgrown with plant life, and everyone lives on rooftops and in walled off sanctuaries. Also Parkour became the only way to survive, so literally everyone can do it now, even children. The zombie AI seems a lot dumber now, and volitles while stronger, are much rarer, but I don't have an explanation for that. There's also a LOT of reusing of assets, by which I mean you'll find a lot of dark zones that are identical to each other, differing only by the path you have to take through them, and you'll find a LOT of courtyard areas that are identical to each other. As for the story, I couldn't really say....the bugs were so bad, that 90% of the cutscenes had to be skipped, so I ended the game having barely any idea wtf was going on. So if you do decide to play it, but aren't desperate to play it right now, wait till Techland fixes their shit, and releases a LOT of patches. As it is right now, the game can be borderline unplayable, and there's no New Game+

[@luvstagrind]

Definitely wait for sale

[@Bathorite]

I don’t know why they introduced these variant zombies and used the poorly if they used them at all. The Banshees almost never show up outside of one scripted encounter and one quest, when they as one of the more nimble and jump capable zombies should harass you when you are above street level. The Goons are out in the open usually very easy to see and this allows you to encounter them on your terms instead of being around corners under cover or surprise enemies you have to scramble to regain your footing to engage. Volatiles are so hard to encounter that you almost never do unless you want to, they only show up outside if you’re really reckless or inside if you choose the wrong time to go in, they too should always be prowling about at night and above street level. Bolsters are useless and easy to kill but they are supposed to be I think… Whatever the spitting ones are called almost never detect you to attack you. Howlers are basically blind and all marked so you can easily avoid them. Virals don’t show up often enough, you usually have to attract them to encounter them. The Exploders are not a worry outside of a single story mission… Special infected are almost always clearly marked and far too rare, this is a horror game with a chase mechanic, they should be popping up and harassing you all over the place.

[@spadesandaces4543]

Howlers- Yeah I agree the howlers should have one of 5 things 1. Be unmarked 2. Have there range be 2.5x or 3x and react to you at twice the speed of what it currently is 3. Simply howl immediately once you entire line of sight 4. Howl when they here to much human noise in a given timeframe become they just ignore fire-crackers like “yes that’s normal hive mind activity” 5. Chases aren’t deactivated because they loose sight of you, even if your on the ground they don’t operate on a radius unlike other zombie types, you can just throw distractions to instantly make them look in a different direction if you don’t wish to be noticed, which the howler doesn’t find strange what so ever. howlers should patrol or move, they are static enemies that is basic the equivalent to a discount alarm t Volatiles- I feel like volatiles not being in facilities at night and not be roaming the night is dumb because then not being there at night and then being described as pack animals implied they’d be out hunting or other activities during the night in the first game this was the case they were just there what worse is that they could spot you in close to 3-5 secs even if you where on a 5 story building however they weren’t as fast and could be easily outrunned with some parkour competence Banshees- They should spawn on roof tops along with virals frequently they’re a decent enemy type but art very present in game I prefer they operate like glass cannons less health that virals but do 1.2x-2.3x the damage the banshee is a decent enemy but lacks presence in-game Bolters- They’re worthless and game two but lucky they’re not even a quarter as fast as game one in game one at-least for me you pretty much couldn’t kill them without a ranged weapon of sorts Goons- They should get on of two things more damage or some type of aid because they are slow not unmanageably strong and most importantly they don’t require more than one person to kill you don’t even need to be competent to kill one. Suggestions for they’re night time version tweaks one less noise from afar, two during they night they stagger you longer and they are 30-50% faster three they throw zombies at you they hide in ally-ways silently and ambush you kinda like they just wake up. Toad- this zombie is kinda like warm and in a similar spot to the Bolger, and howler in terms of rank I think it should act like the howlers feeder they should work in some sort of duo where the howler finds food and they kill it or the botler is used during a chance to keep track of you and they more they’re are the more accelerated the chase level gets Also tech-land add zombies as dangerous if not more than the volatiles because the others are to situational for me to really be afraid of them

[@spadesandaces4543]

Howlers- Yeah I agree the howlers should have one of 5 things 1. Be unmarked 2. Have there range be 2.5x or 3x and react to you at twice the speed of what it currently is 3. Simply howl immediately once you entire line of sight 4. Howl when they here to much human noise in a given timeframe become they just ignore fire-crackers like “yes that’s normal hive mind activity” 5. Chases aren’t deactivated because they loose sight of you, even if your on the ground they don’t operate on a radius unlike other zombie types, you can just throw distractions to instantly make them look in a different direction if you don’t wish to be noticed, which the howler doesn’t find strange what so ever. howlers should patrol or move, they are static enemies that is basic the equivalent to a discount alarm t Volatiles- I feel like volatiles not being in facilities at night and not be roaming the night is dumb because then not being there at night and then being described as pack animals implied they’d be out hunting or other activities during the night in the first game this was the case they were just there what worse is that they could spot you in close to 3-5 secs even if you where on a 5 story building however they weren’t as fast and could be easily outrunned with some parkour competence Banshees- They should spawn on roof tops along with virals frequently they’re a decent enemy type but art very present in game I prefer they operate like glass cannons less health that virals but do 1.2x-2.3x the damage the banshee is a decent enemy but lacks presence in-game Bolters- They’re worthless and game two but lucky they’re not even a quarter as fast as game one in game one at-least for me you pretty much couldn’t kill them without a ranged weapon of sorts Goons- They should get on of two things more damage or some type of aid because they are slow not unmanageably strong and most importantly they don’t require more than one person to kill you don’t even need to be competent to kill one. Suggestions for they’re night time version tweaks one less noise from afar, two during they night they stagger you longer and they are 30-50% faster three they throw zombies at you they hide in ally-ways silently and ambush you kinda like they just wake up. Toad- this zombie is kinda like warm and in a similar spot to the Bolger, and howler in terms of rank I think it should act like the howlers feeder they should work in some sort of duo where the howler finds food and they kill it or the botler is used during a chance to keep track of you and they more they’re are the more accelerated the chase level gets Also tech-land add zombies as dangerous if not more than the volatiles because the others are to situational for me to really be afraid of them

[@dragos0902]

10:50 as you get more inhibitors and get more powerful you can stay longer in the dark. Maybe Hakon did the same and that's why his biomarker did not turn red

[@jordanmckennieisawesome7005]

I love dying light. The 1st one is absolutely amazing I loved it so much when I first played it in 2015. I loved dying light 2 as well but I loved the 1 st one more. Dying light 2, the problem with the game is the story tbh like I just didn’t like the story. And you really only get like 3 encounters with Walz which is so wack cause Walz is a pretty interesting villain

[@kap6457]

Also dying light 2 only has like 20 hours of content

[@AImightywoIf737]

@@kap6457 100 but yes

[@user-wi7iy2me7y]

@@kap6457 i mean it's unfair to compare a game with 7 year of dlc and content updates to a 1 month old

[@idkneededtomakenewacc2575]

@@AImightywoIf737 definitely not 100. Copy and pasted night stores or copy and pasted gre facilities doesn’t count as “content”.

[@AImightywoIf737]

@@idkneededtomakenewacc2575 Well, it is 100 hours of content, but only worth about 40-50. The 500 hours only works if you replay the game 5 times for all 5 different endings; getting 100% each one.

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

39:54 I’d rather not question where she was hiding the GRE key behind her, given her obvious lack of pockets.

[@LowKeyJaded]

If they told me to go get some damn shoes for some dumb broad in the middle of a ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE I would have stopped playing this game.

[@xjaegerwulf]

7 years of development, I played it a year AFTER its release and aside the underwhelming gameplay and story -compared to the first game-, it had a SHITLOAD of bugs. I was playing co-op with my friend, and stuff just kept bugging. Quests wouldn't progress, question markers reappeared after I discovered them which meant not being able to use fast travels unless we re-discovered them, but the pinnacle of fuck-ups happened when we finished the last story quest. The game decided that I didn't need to watch the ending so it just skipped every last cutscene but itself, I shit you not. I was like "what happened" then I googled it and saw that others had the same problem, the game skipped the cutscenes by itself. Usually I try to focus on the aspects of the game that I had fun with, but holy crap I paid full price for this game and I didn't even get to see the ending with the choices I made.

[@CayeDaws]

Wow. This video felt different, and you even started with a valid criticism to the mess that was the development of this game

[@Shadowclaw25]

you missed one point, shots for the workers: Hey barry how was the 8 hour shift ? oh nothing i just hit myself with 500 shots of uuuuaaarggghhh

[@jacksmith-mu3ee]

7:56 isn't that David belle ? The guy who invented parkour ???

[@mrsnikeersneerph4nt0m13]

Really wish they just expanded on the already existing gameplay of the first game instead of pretty much rebuilding an almost entirely new system because damn the gameplay is really bad especially put in context of the first game all very tedious and the leveling feels very grindy due to the requirement to collectathon

[@Karlin_Mana]

You know how to tell if a game is truly boring? When even the sins video of the game is boring. Dang...

[@fugingmoron1434]

I wish Aiden was not looking for his sister but instead was looking for a place safer than being outside the walls, therefore being inside the walls and just surviving.

[@dirtyshinobii]

But.. the only reason why he was outside the walls in the first place was to find his sister so that doesn't make sense

[@dksoulstice6040]

The Crossbow from siding with the PKs is way better than everything you get from the Survivors combined.

[@Changetheling]

Imagine awaiting for this game.

[@user-Jay178]

From what I see gameplay is good and plot is convoluted lol. Great video

[@capthavic]

Parkour is fine (when it works), combat is shit, and the writing is awful.

[@AImightywoIf737]

@@capthavic It always works for me, and what're we comparing the combat to? I thought it was quite fun, just needs some tweaks.

[@capthavic]

@@AImightywoIf737 Attacks wouldn't connect when they should have, enemies would hit you even if you weren't close, they would react like they were reading inputs not reacting to you, etc. My favorite example was they would break animations to dodge instantly, even if they were attacked in the middle of climbing up a ledge, causing them to teleport up to dodge and fall off. The combat is jank as fuck and unpolished, and so is the game in general. Oh and the parkour works fine...when Aiden feels like grabbing what he's supposed to, like the windmill I couldn't do because he just clipped through a hanging bar.

[@greenfolder2437]

I didn't think Dying Light 1's story was boring. It was interesting because Kyle was continuously put in situations where the GRE persuaded him to go against his morals to progress their own secret agenda under the guise of saving people. All the while he makes friends with people inside Harran who he comes to respect more than his employers. Way more interesting than Aiden's bargain-bin dumpster-fire amnesia plotline. (A game that makes amnesia interesting? We Happy Few.) Also Jade was 5 times more interesting than Lawan. Helped that she didn't swear like an attention-seeking twelve year old. Also Brecken the parkour instructor was way more interesting than Frank. He was clearly out of his depth, too injured to run, forced to rely on Kyle, only for it to blow up in his face and cause several children to die. I really felt bad for him. Whereas Frank is an enabled alcoholic who wants everyone to give up and join him in liver-poisoning. I was happy he died because it meant one less source of cringe cussing.

[@Cathras]

YASS!!! Been waiting for you to make this!

[@rattlymanatte5838]

My first playthrough I got the bug where dialogue wouldn’t happen and you’d have to skip it all. Second play through I was actually able to see the dialogue. I still skip it. The story isn’t interesting to me. I also sided with the peacekeepers because I don’t want to let any group of survivors that literally hang and try to beat you to death be able to control the last remaining cities.

[@jerbs5346]

Sin 45 if you played the game outside of the mission you would know that zipline goes to the silo you see Infront of you.

[@Secret0zv]

Objection to the stats and armor thing, maybe the sweatpants had a different fabric or something that cushioned melee damage more than the ones he was previously wearing. It makes total sense. You could've said something about health regeneration or survivor sense, but no, you went for the one thing in stats that makes sense, and it's that different clothes provide different resistances.

[@Lonewolf360gaming]

First dying light was a pretty decent zombie game where the story could just be considered background noise for some of the context, the sequel on the other hand is just worse than the first if we're gonna be talking about the general plot.

[@KrezalSkog]

You forgot the DLC where parkour, one of the main points of the game, is basically ignored in favor of a buggy.

[@andrewp1653]

Ok ok no need to repeat yourself

[@andrewp1653]

Ok ok no need to repeat yourself

[@user-wi7iy2me7y]

Yeah but dl2 feels better in everything else beside physics

[@user-wi7iy2me7y]

Yeah but dl2 feels better in everything else beside physics

[@jimschneider799]

@5:05 - why would somebody who's managed to avoid infection for 15+ years go into a sewer without a UV light?

[@spectredeadgaming7874]

I chose PK for crossbow and it was the best decision I ever made