Dynamis Alliance Blade vs Dynamis Razorback Blade Comparison & Review

In this video, I do a comparison between dynamis alliance blade and dynamis alliance razorback review, made by Daniel Winkler.
I believe this dynamis alliance knife is a great tactical knife and a perfect knife for self defense. I have been a proud owner of both of these defensive blades, and if you are looking for the best knife for self defense, hopefully this video will be helpful.
The dynamis alliance blade I have for this video review was made from cpm3v steel, however their new blades are made from 80crv2 steel. I find either one of these to be the best concealed fixed blades, but I have one that I prefer over the other - you will learn which one in this tactical blade comparison.
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[@CivilianWarrior]

Do you have one of these blades? What do you think?

[@CivilianWarrior]

@@jeffwerf Nice! I keep talking myself out of getting the Revere but I love that it has serrations. I gave up on passing it over leather after two years. Stopped working lol. Wait until 4th of July, he usually has a sale on the blades and might save you $50 off the Razorback. He usually has a sale on Thanksgiving too.

[@sunbunbradley]

This is a good comparison I know what one I am buying now

[@raygun4468]

@@CivilianWarrior Why did you have to send the blade back to Daniel Winkler to get it sharpened? Did they fix the problem after you got it back from being a butter knife only to find it was still only any good for spreading butter? I am not a fan of the brand, to be honest! winklerknives.com/collections/frontpage?page=2 There is nothing in this collection that is not seriously overpriced for what it is. Who pays over $200 for a push dagger when you could get a Cold Steel Safe Maker for under $50 in AUS8a (rolling eyes). There is not a single blade in his collection that I have not got from SOG/CRK/Cold Steel in higher-end steel for less cash.

[@sunbunbradley]

I am going to get one ! I have a TOOR darter Ranger green and I love that knife it is my EDC

[@GROSSFIT]

I do have the Dynamis, but I agree, it is a little bit too big. Love to have the razorback. But in my country double edge is a prob. I decided to go with the AMTAC Northman X. But I still crave the razorback.

[@wolf_ofwarstreet7844]

I’ve been eyeing these blades for a very long time, after your review I pulled the plug and grabbed the Razorback. I’m so glad I did!

[@CivilianWarrior]

That's awesome, I'm glad to hear this video helped and that you are happy with your purchase!

[@GUTI-ps6oy]

Lucky you less 500 Bugs for a pice of Steel 😁😁😁

[@BlahBlahYaga]

Thanks! I too have been wanting a comparison video

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you, I hope it helped.

[@exusarmyranger]

Awesome. Was looking for this type of comparison.

[@CivilianWarrior]

I hope it helped

[@hkpro99]

Great Video, sorely needed and well done. I prefer and carry the original blade but to each his own.

[@robjalali]

Fantastic review! Thanks for the informative video.

[@quedestino52]

A much needed video. I've been looking to purchase a Dynamis blade and could not get a handle comparison to help out with my purchase. Thank you.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Awesome, I'm happy to hear it could help you out in making a decision. That was the sole purpose for me putting this video up. Please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions.

[@DonCole-ip9nq]

Good info. I was leaning towards the Revere but now I am going with the Razorback. Much thanks.

[@emmanuelrodriguez848]

No crap in your comparison. Thank you, it is very useful.

[@GROSSFIT]

Thx. Good and important comparison video 👍🏼🙏🏼

[@Bigwerk]

Great video. I own the Revere, the Dynamis and the Razorback. Had I seen a video comparison like this beforehand, I would’ve just grabbed the Razorback. The other 2 it in a display case (awesome knives btw).

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you! Yeah I keep grabbing my razorback even over a new half face blades mk1 I just picked up. My dynamis blade just sits in the safe.

[@GoZipper]

Great video! Makes my decision easier to get the Razorback as it will fit me better. Thanks!

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you, happy to hear it helped! I'd love to know what you think of it once you get it.

[@merxzone]

Good video thanks. I have the alliance and 3 other winkler knives and a couple of their axes out of the box none have been very sharp. With some sharpening time they do take a good edge. They are tough and will do what they are designed to do.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you! I also own the Zev-Winkler Collaboration Blade, same steel but a little sharper out of the box. Winkler's work is amazing. Personally I think you can both see it and feel it when you have it in your hands. Was saving up for a Winkler Sayoc with the spike but then used those funds to purchase a Half Face Blade Warbird Tomahawk. I hope to purchase a Winkler Tomahawk soon.

[@pdw227]

Thanks man, this is what I needed to see. Much appreciated. I’m the same height as you, my hands are a little bigger, maybe the Revere.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Glad to hear it helped and great choice!

[@cavecanem2826]

Great video brother!

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you!

[@kamilagorniavisualartist6695]

Great stuff

[@Almosteasyese]

Good shit for making this review ! I like that you mentioned your proportions and how well it carries for you, because I'm close to your size and felt like I'd be in your same situation. If you ever wanna touch your own edge up, you can probably find a decent diamond stone like a Smiths for like 20, bucks and practice on a kitchen knife or something. Unless it's really dull, I suspect that medium and high grit do the job.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you, happy to hear it was helpful! I'm not ready to try sharpening these blades myself. I've tried using Lansky stone, Japanese water stones and now have the Wicked Edge Go. Messed up some $20 folders a couple years back when I was trying to learn how to sharpen my own stuff. I like my Wicked Edge for my kitchen knives bc they are flat. Issue I am having with these two blades is having them stay perfectly straight in the clamp. The spin running along the middle makes it very difficult which then prevents both sides from being sharpened at the same angle. Been meaning to reach out to Wicked Edge and see what they recommend.

[@Almosteasyese]

@@CivilianWarrior My pleasure man, by all means keep up the vids if you can! I totally get that, I can freehand my own shit because I grew up ruining my blades. If you did ever wanna find someone who would be able to put whatever edge you want on your blade, I say reach out to Matt of Zulubravo kydex. He does some great looking sharpening and mods

[@IdeaCalledFreedom]

Glad to see this comparison. I’m curious about the benefits of serrations over the dynamis blade. I obviously like serrations for cutting rope, cloth, etc, but is there a self defense advantage?

[@CivilianWarrior]

HI! About half of the professionals I've spoken to say they prefer serrations on their blades. Serrations help tear through layers of clothing and flesh even if the rest of the blade is dull and you are using it in a slashing motion. They are even effective when you just apply downward pressure on bare skin as the jagged edge's start to pierce the first layers of the skin. Plus like you mentioned, they are good for cutting rope, cloth and seatbelts. But if you are just driving the blade in and out, I don't see the serrations having any additional benefit.

[@ommaigod]

There's also a theory, (which I tend to believe), that serrated cuts on flesh cause more immediate pain than clean slices. And in self defense (as opposed to mil combat), pain compliance usually matters, because it changes mindsets from aggro, to defensive. My informal experience in kitchen and shop have supported this. When I was cut by serrated blades in the kitchen, and saw blades in shop, it immediately hurt, and they hurt more. When I've been cut with sharp clean edges, even that sent me to the ER for stitches, the pain was neither as immediate, nor as intense. I've witnessed similar with others, one that required emergency surgery -- the blade was "super sharp," yet he barely felt it, until he felt the heavy bloodflow soaking his clothing. He was not fighting, so he was not operating under fight-stress that tends to numb people's pain perception.

[@alexanderward7195]

This helped a ton. I'll be getting the Revere, then handing it off to be sharpened!

[@CivilianWarrior]

I'm jealous! Great choice and glad it helped.

[@user-xf3en8ih3d]

Great video

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you!

[@onereddfoxxx]

Thank you. Really helpful info. I’m of a mind to get one of those blades.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Glad it was helpful. Let me know if you have any questions. If I don't know the answer I'll just be honest and say I don't know.

[@onereddfoxxx]

I’m wondering if dinamis blade comes sharp? Or is it dull as razorback?

[@CivilianWarrior]

@@onereddfoxxx I can't say for sure. My dynamis blade is an older version. They used to use cpm 3v. It did come sharp. Seeing that the new ones are all 80crv2 like the razorback, I'd say there's a high probability it isn't razor hair cutting sharp. But these are more for penetration and not necessarily cutting. If never seen a winkler blade be as sharp as a Benchmade, ZT, Microtech, half face blades etc.

[@onereddfoxxx]

Fair enough and very good reference. I’ll start with Dinamis blade and see how it goes. And yeah - Microtechs are sharp! Have few of those!

[@CivilianWarrior]

@@onereddfoxxx I'd love to hear what you think once you get it

[@CRUSHEVERYTHING]

AWESOME

[@Capital_AMD]

Good vid!

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you!

[@sincityguns3460]

Great video dude. Only thing I would say is, no one knows you are carrying a blade just because you have a tiny bit of printing. Trust me, no one, especially now with everyone’s faces buried in their phone, is paying any attention to the tiny bit of printing you have. I have been carrying a full size pistol IWB for the past 27 years and I always have printing and no one has ever said anything to me. I have also have many occasions when I tell someone about my carrying (friends / family) and literally not one has ever known before I told them. Carry what you want, don’t worry about printing and you will be fine trust me.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you. After carrying a couple years now I agree with you. No one really looks too hard at that area on a stranger. Appreciate the view and comment!

[@TXGrayrider]

Good review. Could you talk about the sheath?

[@CivilianWarrior]

Good point and sorry for not talking about that in my vid. Was so caught up on the comparison, but yeah i hope to make another video when they release their diving blade and I will talk about the sheath then. For now I can say that it is the best sheath I have had. No sharp edges. Nice and slim, very easy to forget you have it on. The handle of the blade is what reminds me I have one on and not the sheath itself. I like that you can have the blade all the way in or even an inch, maybe an inch and a half from its fully seated position and still not worry about it falling out. I have tried using the sheath for some other blades I have with no luck. Personally I prefer the older clip, it it slimmer bc it doesn't have the extra spacing the new ones have for us to be able to tuck our shirts into. The one thing I would like to see is the addition of a suede type of liner on the actual retention part of the blade. Help reduce the normal wear and tear of the blade. You can notice it on my razorback along the middle. I know it's normal to have wear and tear on blades and firearms but I also do like keeping things looking as new as possible. Andrew and Half Face Blades lines all of his sheaths with suede and it does make a difference. Hope this helps until I get my hands on another Dynamis Blade to talk about.

[@epm357]

I carry an Izula 2. $60 and it does everything those knives do.

[@slamfire6005]

Except keep an edge

[@FCACTUAL69420]

The poors have entered the chat. JuSt aS GoOD

[@SteelCityIceBirds]

It’s not the blade steel resulting in the sharpness. It’s the blade/edge geometry. The blade is kept a bit thicker for strength when stabbing. Most dagger or spear point daggers are plenty sharp to slash. It was just never designed to be a slicer. Thanks for putting up a great comparison.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you Garrett, that's a great a point. The other 80CRV2 blades I've seen that are razor sharp were not intended for the same use as the Razorback and most likely also sharpened at a different angle.

[@daniel-lee888]

@@CivilianWarrior Thanks for the comparison! I own 3 Winkler knives and they tend to have thicker edges (for "hard use" durability) compared to say a Spyderco... I generally reprofile down to 15 to 17.5 degrees for better cutting efficiency.

[@CivilianWarrior]

@@daniel-lee888 Good to know thank you! I found out that Winkler sharpens both of these blades at 20 degrees. Guessing it's the same for other blades he does.I also own Zev-Winkler Blade but can't bring myself to using it knowing he only made 100 of them.

[@modernsurvivaletiquette7354]

Good video crushed it. The million dollar question for me still is. How do you sit with it.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you! Yeah I realized I forgot to talk about the sheath which is great by the way. It's rounded off everywhere so there are no hotspots or points that jab into the body. I recommend wearing it within the first belt loop on your pants. Then when you sit, it naturally angels outward and rests at the front part of the upper and inner aspect of the thigh leading down to the groin area. I've gotten so used to wearing it, that I often forget I have it on. Hope that helps.

[@sully02988]

hey, thanks for content - did you take any of the crusheverything dynamis knife courses? worth it?

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you! I haven't but a friend tells me he has and thought it was worth it.

[@SevereMkII]

The knife doesn’t stay sharp because the sheath is made of glass reinforced nylon and the sheath itself dulls the blade

[@GUTI-ps6oy]

Like those crkt and spyderco crap 😁

[@Tully-Henderson]

This is an excellent comparison and one I’ve been looking for! I’ve actually been wanting an Alliance, would you like to sell yours? It seems like the alliance is just too big for you to use and I’d happily put it to use if you’d like to sell it.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you, glad I could help! Unfortunately I am not looking to sell it right now. Put it on my plate carrier after altering another sheath I had. I have noticed they have sales on July 4th and Black Friday's.

[@acts_men2192]

Nice review, good info. Thanks

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thanks for watching. I'm working on doing a better one and will include the Neptune blade too

[@JasonPatrick-tj4xj]

I discovered there is no perfect blade. But i could pick 3 and say they have it all

[@greekatso]

Can't decide between the Dynamis single edge or the Amtac upgraded northman serrated (can't have concealed double edge in the state I reside in)

[@CivilianWarrior]

Both good blades. Might be a little late but personally I like my Dynamis. Had the chance to grip a Amtac while at SHOT and for me personally, it just didn't feel very comfortable but then again that is a sample size of 1 and I have owned my Dynamis for over 8 years now. I don't think you will regret getting either one.

[@greekatso]

Appreciate the feedback, haven't gotten one yet. Leaning towards the Dynamis. @@CivilianWarrior

[@craigcook1571]

Try using ceramic sticks to sharpen those knives. They work great on a lot of hard to sharpen blades. By the way my toor knife is supposed to be delivered today

[@mitchellgoosen9166]

How do you like the Toor knife?

[@craigcook1571]

@@mitchellgoosen9166 it’s ok, it’s seems to be a good knife, I haven’t really used it to really check it out as far as edge holding, as I bought it mostly for self defense.

[@wyatthines153]

i have the winkler path finder in 80crv2 and it came super sharp i eventually dulled it and sharpened it back up to shave with 1 swipe kinda sharp ive never sent it in to have it sharpened thats weird it wasnt sharp tho

[@CivilianWarrior]

I think it might be the angle at which Winkler sharpened it. I also have the Zev-Winkler and that too was sharper. Which companies product did you use to sharpen your Path Finder and at what angle?

[@wyatthines153]

@@CivilianWarrior started with the ken onion worksharp and i believe i did 20 degrees on the edge cause there was a lil wobble in the edge i straightened then a soft and hard arkansas stones and a leather strop with white compound one stone is made by dans and the other is made by smiths then its a buck skin strop not sure of the brand tho

[@CivilianWarrior]

@@wyatthines153 I have been thinking about buying the Ken Onion worksharp for my Winklers blades and Kiku Matsuda. Appreciate the info! I'll probably wait for a 4th of July sale and then get the Ken Onion worksharp.

[@GUTI-ps6oy]

How EXPENSIVE can a knive get? YES

[@patbiggin4477]

Try behind your left or right hip slightly.im about the same size as you and I can easily conceal a knife larger than those

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you. I'll have to try that

[@redzen5149]

What do you think about the SMR from dynamis?

[@CivilianWarrior]

Honestly I'd love to get my hands on it to try it out but bc I have these two blades and a whole lot more, i'm probably not going to purchase the SMR. I don't see it ever replacing my Razorback or the Dynamis. I do plan on purchasing their Neptune divers blade whenever that comes out because I do scuba dive and swim in the ocean on a regular basis.

[@redzen5149]

@@CivilianWarrior I bought it. It’s muy pequito, however it’s a good back up.

[@CivilianWarrior]

@@redzen5149 Nice! By any chance, does it say who actually made it? Don't know if it too was made by Winkler.

[@redzen5149]

@@CivilianWarrior no it doesn’t, just says USA made. So hopefully. Regardless so far it’s solid. Like you said the blade is dull but once you actually take some time to get it razor sharp, it shreds. I do think it’s slightly overpriced, but a very nice concealed, almost disappearing blade to carry everyday.

[@JasonPatrick-tj4xj]

You got lucky in the way, your first expensive good quality knife gets you headed in the right direction. BUT, once you start its hard to stop....i bought over 100 blades. Sometimes you buy stuff you dislike in a few weeks. Its expensive, the learning curve. You could easily buy aell trade them....

[@CivilianWarrior]

Thank you. Yeah I agree it's hard to stop which is why I bought some half face blades and still want two more. Also just got a winkler sayoc r&d with the spike. Unboxing and first impression video coming soon. Just need to get back to the states.

[@Jack-oz4bf]

I carry my working knife on my right side inside pocket and my fighting knife at the small of my back parallel to the ground it's actually very comfortable and you can reach the knife very easily very fast and nobody would expect you to have a knife in the small of your back.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Nice! I actually asked winkler if he could make me one of his standard leather sheaths for my dynamis so I could carry that way. He said no.

[@mitchellgoosen9166]

That’s a bummer.

[@sunbunbradley]

Great video ! I want one and I will trade a battle worn used in combat WINKLER belt knife for one

[@Leftoftheslash]

Great review, I happen to carry the Amtac Northman. If you like the Dynamis you would like Amtac, check them out amtacblades.com/northman/

[@CivilianWarrior]

Hi! I definitely want to check out his blades. The idea of pocket carrying them got my attention. I'm trying to take one of his handgun or rifle course soon, where I hope to see them in person and determine if I want to buy one.

[@homeydirt2278]

I em Amtac weeks ago and still no reply. Not good

[@Leftoftheslash]

@@homeydirt2278 Try sending them a message directly through the website under the "contact" tab. If you email Bill directly keep in mind its a small business, he receives lots of orders which they ship out in small batches and he is also instructing firearms classes, so something to consider.

[@homeydirt2278]

@@Leftoftheslash I did, I understand small company, I just tried a different means so we’ll see

[@saleen692]

Like to see Razorback vs Northman

[@CivilianWarrior]

I'd love to do a comparison but I can't afford to get that blade and don't have enough subscribers to contact them and ask for one to be sent to me as a loaner/demo. If you know of someone who has one and is willing to let me check it out for a week, let me know.

[@Wagyu_Jubei]

That ain't 400 bucks worth of steel. I collect customs and production and that is hype you're paying for

[@CivilianWarrior]

I know but can you name one thing that is sold to consumers at the actual manufacturing cost?

[@Wagyu_Jubei]

@@CivilianWarrior it doesn’t have to be the actual mfr cost or sold at a loss but pricing like that is ridiculous. There’s a middle ground. They look like well made knives but fuck that price LOL

[@CivilianWarrior]

@@Wagyu_Jubei I'm always looking for new blades. Just came across Kemper customs. Can you name some of the customs you like? I'd love to check them out.

[@Wagyu_Jubei]

@@CivilianWarrior JW Bensinger and Ecos Knives (good inexpensive beaters)

[@Wagyu_Jubei]

@@CivilianWarrior subbed btw. Cool channel

[@pederhalverson2591]

It isn’t supposed to be razor sharp. It’s a fighting knife … penetration is the goal, not slashing.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Yup I said that right after saying it wasn't sharp, but the new ones are sharper.

[@greedygringoprospecting6941]

get a medford. micro praetorian T custom ordered.

[@CivilianWarrior]

Just looked it up, pretty cool looking folder. Just ordered the half face blade shpos folder gen 2. Stay tuned for a review on that one.