To give you some context, the Panigale V4S - which makes a claimed 214bhp at the crank - measured 189bhp on same dyno
@pags19815 жыл бұрын
Blimey, they dont mess about eh
@MrTasmad5 жыл бұрын
@@SK-ps1mo Seriously bro?
@robindphillips5 жыл бұрын
Shit the bed
@MightyCalves5 жыл бұрын
Wow. I'm a Ducati fanboy, but this is amazing. Would like to see the two graphs together.
@AryanDiablo5 жыл бұрын
Beemer makes more power for half the price.
@davedavidson38145 жыл бұрын
Love a bit of blink 189
@wobblysauce5 жыл бұрын
that's what happens when you get older.
@KubuśpuchatekTVN5 жыл бұрын
SMH...
@davedavidson38145 жыл бұрын
Jason Bouphasavanh thanks for the opinions Jason 👍
@DylanHK5 жыл бұрын
How did you get the 44 teeth symbol next to you?
@RoryMacdonald-pfff5 жыл бұрын
👏 well said James .. a new (power) benchmark, just like 10 years ago.
@moviebod5 жыл бұрын
my point exactly
@JeffTH3665 жыл бұрын
"Ve Have Vays ov Making the Torque" (and BHP of course)
@taxi6155 жыл бұрын
People comparing the HP4 race to the new S1K have no clue what they are talking about...to be a comparable bike you would need to build one with the 2019 engine and tech. When people are holding on to 6HP that pretty pathetic. The HP4 race is in its own division and can't even use it on the street so what's even the point. The new engine is incredible and to see all the power starting around 5K thats just great and unheard of in the 4cyl engine world. We live in a time where bikes are incredible the wars manufactures are having against each other is certainly at our advantage.
@randykawasaki5 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Just because something is a track bike does not necessarily mean it will always be nherently superior to a road bike taken to the track, the 05 GSXR and 98 R1 and mk1 Fireblade blew a few track bikes out of the water when they arrived as stock. As to the reason why so many people are mentioning this, I'll give you one: >£40k. That's a pretty pursuasive point for most people, if not for 44t.
@theant98215 жыл бұрын
@@randykawasaki a comparison to the hp4 race is pointless, however interesting, sure race bikes become obsolete, but people are only taking the engine into consideration, the hp4 race has ha highly tuned 10 year old engine, not bad that in this game it can still do it with the current crop, a relevant comparison would be a similarly set up bike based on the new generation bike, then we'd know how far ahead the new machine is. A hp4 race mk2.
@randykawasaki5 жыл бұрын
@The ANT It isn'ta pointless comparison given the huge gulf in price and the narrow one in performance. BMW chose to punt out the HP4 just months before the RR turned up. That was very a smart marketing decision. Money is the name of the game.
@theant98215 жыл бұрын
@@randykawasaki well the ultimate of the new generation will only be possible when its about to be replaced, when its had years of development in motorsport. Building a new hp4 race would be futile as they could build a far better one with more experience with the design.
@hebbert1235 жыл бұрын
Baron, is your HP4 already for sale? ;)
@Yeahbuddylightweigh5 жыл бұрын
D.P. P savage 💯
@fishingwcp5 жыл бұрын
Just to put that in perspective, my first big bore sport bike was a new 92 cbr900rr (in 92) after I put a pipe, carb kit and Deion racing cams in it, I put it on a dyno and it did 115 rear wheel Hp...lol
@MichaelSmith-cb8gg5 жыл бұрын
Those where great days my big bike was the 91 92 suzuki gsxr 1100 120 hp then was big numbers the cbr was lighter I still like the looks of some of the older bikes
@topperbikez52923 жыл бұрын
Had my 2020 BMW S1000RR done last month. Had the full Akrapovic Racing System, Sprint Air Filter, Samco Hose kit installed. Had the ECU flashed with the Woolich Racing Software & she came in at 207bhp from the back wheel.
@DuoMotovlog5 жыл бұрын
That power curve is absolutely fantastic...never ending power for most situations. Well done BMW✌️
@chris5k1325 жыл бұрын
This bike has to be the bike of the year, its insane
@DuoMotovlog5 жыл бұрын
@@chris5k132 agree! ✌️
@FedeGherbaz5 жыл бұрын
On FB i said 194 being optimistic.... Wow.... 196 Is a new benchmark as they did 10 years ago.
@milkysocks56135 жыл бұрын
Loving the quick uploads! Is there any chance on Fagan doing a video explaining more about the abs problems with newer bikes?
@markpender77145 жыл бұрын
yes! watching the s22 launch videoI was very curious about the zx10 and the blade abs issues
@S29ORY5 жыл бұрын
Milky Socks it’s set up for road use, very safe and good on the road but on track when the bike is pushed to its limit the system reacts and up sets the bike and the rider has to correct the bike losing time on the lap.
@milkysocks56135 жыл бұрын
@@S29ORY Thank you. Was just weird, seeing a bsb rider struggle so hard with a bike like Fagan was. He said they can't be turned off either.. All those electronics and the manufacturers never thought to put a 'track mode' on the bikes.
@VaderWhoop5 жыл бұрын
The abs issue... I think the problem is you need some otherwise your belly just wobbles about under the stiffened suspension 😂 (Sorry, couldn't resist ) ABS / abs One is an acronym ( always spelled out in capitals ) The other are muscles. 🤓
@S29ORY5 жыл бұрын
Milky Socks I’ve heard you can remove the abs fuse on the fireblade not sure if that’s true. The blade is 0% Apr and has a £2k deposit contribution but it’s probably the old bike to sell them quicker. Be awesome if all manufacturers done 0% pcp
@JohnnyWooh5 жыл бұрын
Good to see they updated their dyno to windows 10 finally
@MagnumMuscle10005 жыл бұрын
These liter bikes are just nuts nowadays. The mighty 1992 ZX-11 made about 130 at the wheel. The oil cooled GSXR-1100 was around 125. Those bikes were legendary at the time for their speed. The CBR 954rr around 150. 200 RWHP is nuts.
@tonykeast99665 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Conclusive evidence that the game has been changed. That thing will shred the TT once dialled in. ZOINKS!
@hubert11425 жыл бұрын
Jizzmachine - will get it at some point I am sure. Statham and Perkins, I think we need a special episode focused on James. He's a supercool, funny guy with thousands stories to tell I am sure
@barz915 жыл бұрын
Hey guys please make a PART 2 Dyno vid on the same Dyno once the bike has had all the bhp increasing extras to give us a realistic idea what it will actually get up to once the stock exhaust and stuff comes off
@rewmeister5 жыл бұрын
I want to see that as well!
@buddybleeyes5 жыл бұрын
Man, this has been my dream bike for years... and it's only getting better! 😍
@g40will5 жыл бұрын
I loved all the small things about blink 189.
@Hypersonik5 жыл бұрын
As a technical exercise - amazing no doubt. But surely this opens up the old model to a great deal. If the old one is making 180rwhp, you're hardly going to get on it on the road and think 'Yeah, could do with some more power this.
@dipladonic2 жыл бұрын
Actually, on my "old model" S1000rr (geared, tuned, straight-through exhaust system etc), I find it to be rather quick at the start of the summer, but by the end, I'm screaming out for more POWER. It's always the fecking same.
@taxi6155 жыл бұрын
I knew this bike would be back on top can't wait now for mine only a couple more weeks. With the BMW power upgrade package (exhaust filter and tune from M division) they claim 217 crank hp I'm guessing it will make the 207-210 RWHP on a real dyno. I'm sure tuners will get to 215 RWHP on these bikes before July. Best thing is it starts making this power from 5000 RPM's most bike start around 9K. I think we will see new engines popping up around the world to catch up again to BMW. Love pretty much all bikes but hard not to be completely in love with BMW.
@IPHATBOYCHIEFO5 жыл бұрын
BMW S1000RR what a bike. Well worth the money. Thanks for another great vid. Cheers guys
@markmywords3125 жыл бұрын
BHP is incredible but it's amazing how much torque figures havent changed in 20 years. A product of track focussing bikes instead of road focussing. Given that 95% of riders never go near a track, cant help but think most riders needs are being ignored
@avalanx5 жыл бұрын
Definitely the new benchmark. Incredible.
@identiticrisis5 жыл бұрын
What did the fueling look like? The press-tested R1250s looked like ringers to me, with their perfect fueling. No way they were running in Euro5 spec!! Dieselgate all over again...
@FancyAnimal5 жыл бұрын
218hp at the crank with an olive oil tin hanging off the back.
@kiwiabroad83905 жыл бұрын
Ding, ding, double decker! The newest Bavarian RR leads the pack, again.
@exothermal.sprocket5 жыл бұрын
The GSX-R1000R is making near that power, not stock, but after the horrible Japanese-to-USA restrictions are removed.
@desidudev5 жыл бұрын
If you guys can dyno the same bike with a slip on exhaust with no tuning, then with tuning and then with a full exhaust system without and with tuning. Would be one of the most comprehensive dyno videos of one of the most powerful production litre bike ever.
@tristandrew59034 жыл бұрын
The ONLY thing that worries me is the hollowed out titanium valves on the new model...lighter crank and 14.5k rpm scares me. Is the extended warranty to 3yrs a sign from BMW. It'll be a couple of years before we have proven reliability but fingers crossed!
@oxide_fx5 жыл бұрын
I'm just impressed that it costs you just £200 for a device that could save your life... That's really cheap! It cost me that amount for a set of OEM adjustable levers....
@theneck51575 жыл бұрын
OxideFX it will also know where you are at all times and can tell what and where your doing it ....it’s the same reason everyone with onstar disconnects the second you buy your car , who wants big brother knowing how you ride and what your doing
@oxide_fx5 жыл бұрын
@@theneck5157 If it means the difference between being stuck in a ditch on my own with a bad injury in the middle of nowhere and them knowing my every location/ style of riding? I'd opt for the former. 90% of my rides are solo and I ride a lot more carefully when alone because I know that there may not be any help around if I wreck...
@theneck51575 жыл бұрын
OxideFX to each is own but when they record your riding style and can tell where you are when ever they want you might feel differently, at the track everyone will be around you and you ride a S1000RR by yourself 90% of the time ?? I can see if your riding a cruiser but what the hell are you doing on a superbike on your own all the time ???
@oxide_fx5 жыл бұрын
@@theneck5157 Yeah it's all down to personal preference. Good thing it's an optional extra so you don't have to have it if you don't want to. I think it's gonna be more useful on the roads than on the track as someone's almost always going to see you go down on the track. I was out in the literal middle of nowhere recently and rode past a guy who was down a 12ft ditch, trying to get the bike out. Only saw the helmet and jacket on the side of the road. Stopped and helped him pull it out, but would've had no idea he was there if it wasn't for the helmet he'd left at the side of the road.
@Brando8505 жыл бұрын
Will this be a US option?
@MadMexism5 жыл бұрын
Was looking at the Honda, and now this is in my scope. Very nice! Wonder if reliability is solid.
@djromana175 жыл бұрын
Well it's BMW so probably not. But a fantastic machine nonetheless when it works.
@chris5k1325 жыл бұрын
I predicted 197 and I was close. BmW setting the pace again
@tmenzella5 жыл бұрын
My old 82 350LC made that at the rear wheel even without the microns, Marlboro colours and the little bikini faring.
@Farlig695 жыл бұрын
10:10 Yeah and what´s it doing when you don´t press it - fuck that, no thanks, big brother merkel....
@motozest78565 жыл бұрын
The GSXR1000R, which is a fucking great liter bike, got on this exact dyno 177.32hp and 79.52 ft.lbs stock. This BMW is insane... If not for the expected (un)reliability there would be no reason to buy any other liter bike.
@kyleteeter75895 жыл бұрын
I've been saying for a while now that the BMW is going to be the better bike compared to the V4R. I think this proves. And it's not just about hp. But I think this will have more power through the rev range because of the variable valve timing and the cams that shift over. And I'm a guy who has never liked the S1000RR. But I saw this bike and heard about it and the motor and thought this was going to be the better bike, and I think it is. And the way you can adjust everything and the tech is really amazing. I mean, shit. A full exhaust and a tune from someone who knows what they're doing and you have a 215hp fucking monster. That is light and compact and that has a really good power band that has good power all the way through the rev range. I did NOT like the first two generations, but I really want one of these. This and the newest GSXR1K are really good bikes.
@bkizzle5745 жыл бұрын
WoW that bike pulls HARD!! Gonna be a monster on the streets!!
@LouCFur905 жыл бұрын
You guys did dyno the HP4 Race on a slick tire to be fair. The new S1K is still quite impressive.
@DeFausti5 жыл бұрын
What a monster. BMW shitting on the competition again!
@exothermal.sprocket5 жыл бұрын
Wonder how the DIN correction factor compares to SAE or STD dyno correction factors. Anyway, that's pretty healthy power. 220 hp or more at the crankshaft, give or take.
@MrRowrow225 жыл бұрын
Dyno vids always have the best gammy legged banter
@FortyFourTeeth5 жыл бұрын
Pasty legs
@MrRowrow225 жыл бұрын
@@FortyFourTeeth proper russlers pegs
@ShezzerNator1755 жыл бұрын
Well done to BMW! Never been a fan boy but euro 5 and that power that is so clean and linear. Just wow.... but hopefully it doesn’t shit it’s self with engine issues down the line, as that will be an ownership question.
@Hypersonik5 жыл бұрын
The legions of people who will get these on PCP to do 2500 miles in 3 years at £200pcm won't care.
@Sorry_ImTruthful5 жыл бұрын
Would love to see both graphs of the v4s/v4r vs s1krr to see which one has the better curve?.. only then will know which one is laying the power down the better, or just wait to see a head 2 head? Lol 😆
@dashford065 жыл бұрын
Awesome power and much more realistic than the 206 I saw recently in another dyno video by someone in England. Interesting, the SOS button. I guess American models don't have that... just got a new R1250GS as a garage mate for the 2015 RR, and it doesn't have it. For reference, my 2015 RR did 178 on the dyno, took it to 183.5 with Bazzazz fueling and Yoshimura tail pipe (not full exhaust).
@simonturner28675 жыл бұрын
dashford06 different correction factor on dyno
@Bikeadelic4 жыл бұрын
So what about s1000rr 2020 vs hp4 race? Is the hp4 still the danglies? Or is the new 2020 just as good?
@mrBIGego5 жыл бұрын
That’s Beast!!!! I’ll be getting one 5 years from now when I can afford it!!!
@sirfaffalot91365 жыл бұрын
Yeah same here! 🤣
@mrBIGego3 жыл бұрын
@@sirfaffalot9136 I have one now!!!
@Albertalorian5 жыл бұрын
What a time to be alive in the bike community! Also I see James, I hit like!!!
@friscokid665 жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to the iconic cylinders that are sticking out on the sides? That's what gave these bikes such stability, isn't it?
@kayle71554 жыл бұрын
Did the SOS thing go off when you had the accident this year? What a sexy sounding machine
@tonykartracer80325 жыл бұрын
It's those 'No Fear' slip on shoes, man.... I'm telling you!
@chrisnkc074 жыл бұрын
Will we get to see a 2021 ZX-10R on this dyno soon?
@twopoke5 жыл бұрын
My turbo makes 220.... 196 out of a reliable STANDARD NA motor is bloody amazing! Give ze germans a pat on ze back!
@hottbaje68685 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the lightest 1000cc production bike, all at a reasonable price compared to V4R.
@McNeilious15 жыл бұрын
guys - Have you reviewed/compared the BMW S1000R ??? If not when are you going to ? Looking to purchase an upright and your opinions matter lol
@ayrtongoat925 жыл бұрын
You guys are the best much love from across the pond
@dmfd1235 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT VID! Just what we wanted, amazing power.
@JalenDidIt5 жыл бұрын
That has to be the new best sounding inline 4 with factory exhaust. When. He did the first hit I knew I had to have one
@RevvedUpBiker5 жыл бұрын
What BMW have done to the new S1000rr is very appealing. Now how much can I afford per month to buy one!
@jasonisdn5 жыл бұрын
I looked a good bit in the comments and couldn't find the answer to my question, so I guess I'll ask it. What octane fuel was used for the test?
@michaelhayward75725 жыл бұрын
Anything with JHS and James in it is worth watching.
@kawi704racing5 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to discuss power tuning in depth? I feel it's hard to get good Information on the best ways to go about having a tune put in. Thanks ya'll are great.
@watersofthesouth4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to post the V4S dyno chart side by side for comparison?
@ozbiker53115 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reply , I spoke to the head mechanic at beam Brisbane Australia about that same video, he said that he had a 2018 1000rr but only one out of all that he put on his dyno and it got just over 200 at the rear but this is the dyno video make your mind up love to hear your comment after you watch it = BMW S1000RR 2019 Dyno Run Fastbike
@coops66215 жыл бұрын
Secondhand HP4 anyone?
@thewippit24005 жыл бұрын
Great figures what a machine.. I would love to ride one epic.. I’d like to see the improvement with full race system on & fuelling set up 😬
@ToneNewEra5 жыл бұрын
BMW THE KING has arrived back for his crown.
@dunnmx61065 жыл бұрын
best bike on the market imo... if only i had a spare 20k
@dylanrosser7975 жыл бұрын
My heart's set on r1m but I know that this thing is the best out there by a mile
@dunnmx61065 жыл бұрын
Dylan Rosser would love a r1m but the bmw is just more refined i think.
@Kenneth51645 жыл бұрын
BMW is just now catching up on technology that the Yamaha had since 2015
@ojpfreely98235 жыл бұрын
Bloody awesome! I think the bee added another 5bhp!
@aeror1155 жыл бұрын
the new BMW is hot as F….! Need to ride this thing!!! Enjoy the bike life 🤙
@MrAndyS5 жыл бұрын
Everyone gonna be screaming sell hp4 race but lightness best ohlins money can buy carbon frame sublime feel make it special not just the BHP
@taxi6155 жыл бұрын
the HP4 race is way more than just lightness and Ohlins. it's just simply over built and will only go up in value as time goes by. Even if the new bike has 6hp difference thats just 2% of what the bike is really about. He should keep the race and add the S1K to his garage for some road use.
@hottbaje68685 жыл бұрын
HP4 has hidden cost of engines to be rebuilt or replaced. I would take the new bike and invest the cost difference in performance upgrades.
@taxi6155 жыл бұрын
@@hottbaje6868 it's only got that if your going to be racing the crap out of it BMW actually said that you can use the engine all you want with normal track use. besides most of the people that have that bike won't be racing it at the level it's meant to be or even used by some owners. Most bikes are garage keep in hope that one day it will go up in value. It's just not the same bike at all and shouldn't be compared to a road based bike.
@petekaiser5 жыл бұрын
Is this the regular s1000 rr or the m spec? But damn those power figures!!! Its massive!!!
@FortyFourTeeth5 жыл бұрын
M Package but no different to stock bike in terms of engine and power. Only chassis, carbon wheels etc
@petekaiser5 жыл бұрын
@@FortyFourTeeth well then...that is tempting to say the least, thanks gents. Looks like i know what i'm going to be begging for a new bike 😁
@Robertdiaz1235 жыл бұрын
That run up at 3:25 was amazing...
@donidaniello5 жыл бұрын
1st question is, will the inline 4s follow ducatis to 'cheat' their cc ? 2nd question is why must ducati add more cc than currently are? its understandable during v-twin era, but on v4 as well??
@Nerezza15 жыл бұрын
Because Ducati. It is literally the reason for all the strange stuff that they do.
@junglejim87815 жыл бұрын
Both aprilia and Ducati have 1100 sports bikes... there is nothing to say bikes have to 1000cc... that's an old wsb/bsb requirement for homologation purposes. Kawasaki made the 636 and the 599cc version for racing, Ducati and aprilia do the same... even the mysterious Norton v4 is an 1100 and had to use an aprilia engine to race at the TT.... The amount of power loss with ongoing emission regulations has forced some manufacturers to increase the displacement to cope... Just surprises me bikes aren't going the same as cars... big V12's swapped for twin turbo V8's... With the supercharged H2, its something to expect before all is electric
@nervcontrol5 жыл бұрын
Curious as to what the beemer would make with a full exhaust
@TheSoulofuniverse5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honest dyno run :) a new benchmark no doubt.
@MasterBlasterSr5 жыл бұрын
As soon as I can out ride my 18 S1K I will be getting the new genn the mean time please work out any bugs.
@ozbiker53115 жыл бұрын
We took the new 2019 BMW S1000RR to Black and White Bikes to see how well it would fair on a dyno run. The result amazes both Paul and Carl!
@smiffydooo5 жыл бұрын
the sound of that thing is just purely eargasmic
@CunningStuntsGoFast5 жыл бұрын
chose a new bike between this and the duc v4 , was tired of waiting , bought the duc , dont regret it . thought this was gonna smash the competition
@noutubenamesleft5 жыл бұрын
Well, bloody hell. Also, you guys got all your bikes in GP shift?
@michaeljkasnter5 жыл бұрын
I have trouble holding on to my 2017-CBR-SP2 past 9k rpm, I cannot imagine needing more power? I destroy tires every 2500 miles, so this BMW will need rear tire every 1500 miles?
@mabrokenleg23885 жыл бұрын
Murder machine, i want one so much😬🙈
@lightbeam4615 жыл бұрын
207hp is what BMW gives for the worst wether scenario. And that is how manufacturers should be about the power. Of course you should have round 230hp at the crankshaft with a full exhaust and tune in a dry weather condition.
@mahamza865 жыл бұрын
Another refined bike from BMW, sound is still not good though. I wasn't able to catch that but how much was the Aprilia RSV4 RR? Because Aprilia claims 201 and BMW claims 199.
@rssniff5 жыл бұрын
BMW claims 205 or 207 depending on the country.
@MisterAki435 жыл бұрын
Baron turned out to be correct on his BvG vid about the bimmer. 'S1000RR - Respect' or whatever it was called. BMW have done it again.
@mattcorns97615 жыл бұрын
F***K Sake I have to give back or buy my 2014 in Oct. Now I've seen this I want one again, any ideas on blagging the Mrs Chris?
@_cr8ive_5 жыл бұрын
There is something wrong with the front wheel . . .it's am wont turning? I had an emergency once but cannot didn't find the SOS button . . .my spelling is am are badder...
@bloodysinner94565 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the Ducati V4S and V4R?
@JestersCapxXx5 жыл бұрын
81 ZX-10R riders with power commander just went out to buy a new exhaust system.
@JoeAchilles15 жыл бұрын
189... Is that a sexual position haha love it!
@RichDunn5 жыл бұрын
Don't try it in the back of an M2C!
@JoeAchilles15 жыл бұрын
@@RichDunn haha noted
@moviebod5 жыл бұрын
AKA Twister
@seanmapley74175 жыл бұрын
Awsome video lads love it!
@paultucker47495 жыл бұрын
Save 40 grand and buy one of these 🤣
@bianco20125 жыл бұрын
felt that burn
@chutney5 жыл бұрын
Get the ointment out Chris 🔥🔥
@nathanhardcastle87675 жыл бұрын
Any video with James is great but a video with 196rwhp and James is much better...it's the benchmark of bike videos.
@DGH195 жыл бұрын
BEAST!!! wasnt aware about the SOS very cool indeed
@victor-emmanuel74855 жыл бұрын
Absolutely addicted to this channel! 👌
@PaulMappud5 жыл бұрын
Need to see more (not in a bodily way) of the dyno guy, most entertaining...
@ChrisMag1005 жыл бұрын
🆘 function = BMW automatically knows you tossed the bike on the ground so they can void your warranty? 🤨
@644loic5 жыл бұрын
nha
@BrianEvansracer4 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, how did this S1000RR compare to the V4R
@lexian56025 жыл бұрын
Blink 189 is my favorite band
@samh34675 жыл бұрын
Why the delays in getting the bike? Ordered mine January been given 3 dates now latest one August/September
@jtab53925 жыл бұрын
I heard by BMW that the ugly tail lights on the new S1000RR, are too bright for DOT so they have to change them or update them that's why they are being delayed
@jamest51495 жыл бұрын
Come on, do a follow up video with a full system etc and show what it can be. Awesome
@ilmostro165 жыл бұрын
This result is incredible. But definitely much more realistic than the click-bait scamfest that other video is posting 206hp.
@2HYPR5 жыл бұрын
So why is BMW not leading WSBK, BSBK, SuperSport or any category?
@mrBIGego5 жыл бұрын
2HYPR still very new. Those bikes are highly upgraded so they are still doing R&D on the bike. They are currently still using the stock engine to which puts them at a disadvantage.
@2HYPR5 жыл бұрын
@@mrBIGego SSP is not "highly upgraded" and the DUC V4 is new.... I still think it is awesome and the whole package is superior to Duc for the street just why all the fuss over the HP?
@lametraserillos15 жыл бұрын
@@2HYPR duc is all focused for racing, bmw and other brandas are focused for road and racing ... V4r costs 40.000 euros ... (the others around 20.000 euros)