Dyno Testing Integrated Engineering Air Intake System - Audi B8 S4

[@VancityAudi]

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[@mercracing]

Excellent breakdown of the upgrades and what to expect from each level of upgrades. So fantastic to see the heat exchanger helping make great power consistently!

[@VancityAudi]

Thanks for making such a stellar product!

[@kenj1424]

Love that you verify all you do on the car with dyno or 1/4 mile. No guess just facts!

[@VancityAudi]

That's why I love doing these videos for you all. I never make claims unless I can back them up. I just state what I prove the car can do. Thanks for watching!

[@davidmusiyenko4158]

I’m already stage 2+ 190mm crank from 034, 57mm supercharger pulley from IE, IE intake, ECS HX, p3 v3 gauge , Billet drivetrain and tranny inserts from 034, IE 80mm throttle body, running on 100 octane. Ran into fuel cutting issues. HPFP next. JHM test pipes/catted down pipes, then ported blower, and time to run e40. I love how you dyno everything. This way I can know what I was pushing to the wheels as I was going from stage 1-stage 2+ and forward. Thank you!

[@VancityAudi]

You're very welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@Beardchanics]

Always great to see parts tested properly.

[@VancityAudi]

Thank you for saying that!

[@Beardchanics]

@@VancityAudi Thanks for putting it out there, type of information that is really useful to make a choice.

[@VancityAudi]

@@Beardchanics No problemo. I'm glad I could help

[@davidblais2933]

Sick Passat!

[@VancityAudi]

Thanks!!!

[@spondev]

That is phenomenal power! Really excited to see that you are already making nearly 400 wheel on pump gas, no less. There you go closer to that 10 second run. You should be trapping right around 119 mph now. To run 10's repeatedly, you will need at least 124 mph traps, which should be easily achievable with E40, DP, 80 mm throttle body and ported blower. Actually with those additional mods you will be trapping around 128 mph. Again, congrats on the awesome results and thanks for the interesting content!

[@VancityAudi]

I'd say 119mph is a little on the high side for a Stage 1 - 93 octane tuned car, but we shall see. Thanks for watching!

[@spondev]

@@VancityAudi you trapped 116 mph when putting down 360 whp. With 33 additional hp, you will very likely pick up 3 mph in the 1/4. Every little bit helps- HX gave you better IAT-timing-power, intake more power, downpipes a bit more power.

[@VancityAudi]

@@spondev super cold weather, super low DA making super good power on a dyno doesn't directly relate to that high a trap speed. If the conditions were identical between those dyno days then I might agree. I think I did 115mph, not 116mph too haha. My guess is I manage like 117mph, maybe 118mph at best. Only time will tell though! I love your optimism!!!

[@fizzball13]

That spike is from when it shifted I think mine has done the same

[@VancityAudi]

It's not from that

[@fredzimmer8626]

Passat.... That's hilarious ! Does your RS3 have a Jetta badge? Interesting results. Seems like the overall consensus is that a intake doesn't add much but I think when people make that statement they are referring to a modified OEM airbox 034 back pipe, AFE filter, and a few holes punched in the bottom. Great #s on a STg1 you definitely have a healthy unit.

[@VancityAudi]

Does my RS3 have a Jetta badge you ask?!?! kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJqzZJJooduJiM0

[@fredzimmer8626]

@@VancityAudi LMAO !! Brilliant !

[@The_Hi_Life]

Are the down pipes significantly louder? Any drone?

[@VancityAudi]

You can hear it for yourself... kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4TRo4mNg8SrhJo

[@AndreBuxey]

Slapping on the intake is useless unless you get a revised tune from IE? That is impressive gains but its the sw + intake that made the difference. Would love to see the IE vs 034 vs ETC... intake back to backs....

[@VancityAudi]

Might want to watch the video again if that is what you took from it. That wasn't the case at all

[@audilover8174]

Good job you are making perfect videos with all the updates I’m surprised with the power the car makes I’m stage 2 single pulley on 91 tune with down Cts down pipes and cold air intake and I make 400 at the wheel congrats and keep going😀😀

[@VancityAudi]

Thanks and will do!

[@daviddemyan927]

so technically with intake and throttle body it's about 22hp gain not bad

[@VancityAudi]

Certainly more than 22hp with both of those mods. You have to take into consideration the testing of those products was done on separate days and at very, very different power levels. If I tested the air intake gains at a Dual Pulley Throttle Body E40 state of tunel they would have been greater than what you saw in this video.

[@ChefS6]

Thank you for making this video. I definitely have to reflash and check with IE to make sure I’m not experiencing the same issue you did.

[@VancityAudi]

Don't reflash anything. Simply log your car. That will instantly tell you whether your bypass valve is opening on your pulls or not. If it isn't (like 90% of people), then you're fine

[@1bads5]

@@VancityAudi what are you using to log?

[@VancityAudi]

@@1bads5 kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3TLq3d9mK-bZ5I

[@МаксимВоронин-ы9ж]

Adam, have you compared such a filter with the oem? I wonder if there will be a big difference, other things being equal. I have an a6c7 with a custom 89mm intake pipe and an rs6 air box. I'm afraid to put a filter of zero resistance, a lot of sand in our area.

[@VancityAudi]

Not sure I understand the question. This video already shows an OEM filter vs an upgraded filter and intake.

[@МаксимВоронин-ы9ж]

@@VancityAudi I meant using a modified inlet pipe with an oem filter, and not with a filter like k & n and so on. on the c7 body (for a6 and a7) it is possible to use a filter box from rs6, but use a stock filter. on rs6 it is enough for 560hp, that is, the performance is enough for any level of improvements 3.0 tfsi

[@МаксимВоронин-ы9ж]

@@VancityAudi so I wanted to know if there would be a difference if only the filter was replaced with a modified one, given that the rest of the intake system is unchanged

[@VancityAudi]

@@МаксимВоронин-ы9ж gotchya. That I can't speak to because I never tried and tested that. Sorry

[@tmuratorimuratori6327]

How are you running 93 at high altitude? In colorado we have no 93, so i'm limited to a 91 tune which makes less power.

[@VancityAudi]

We are at extremely low altitude. Just above or at sea level.

[@-rotukezge---6564]

I'm new here but really like your videos, very professional 👍, I have stock S5 but want to add some nice whine of supercharger and want to order IE intake, that weird graph from dyno make me a bit concerned about power delivery..... do you think it may do the same thing on fully stock engine ?

[@VancityAudi]

If all you're looking for is to make the supercharger whine louder, then you'll want to buy an open air intake. Not a closed one, so make sure you don't buy the cover. With a stock tune, you'll gain no power using an air intake. The car will need to be tuned to make more power.

[@-rotukezge---6564]

@@VancityAudi thanks for quick replay! yes at the moment I'm looking for nice whine from supercharger so decided to go for open intake from IE, planning to order single pulley in future and when thats done I will be looking for ECU and TCU map, thanks for explanation 👍

[@tonyboss4291]

Great video, love the b8 content and very useful information.

[@VancityAudi]

Thanks for watching!

[@scottc78]

Great gains so far! What do you mean by downpipes exactly? I've only heard that term in regards to a turbo car, right off the hot side of the Turbo. Did you get headers? Or are these like cat deletes after the headers?

[@VancityAudi]

The Integrated Engineering downpipes. Not the headers. Here is a link to their website: performancebyie.com/products/ie-downpipes-audi-s4-s5-b8

[@scottc78]

@@VancityAudi interesting, on other cars I've had, those would be considered midpipes/resonator deletes or something. They look very nice regardless.

[@VancityAudi]

Have all your other cars been turbocharged or naturally aspirated? On these cars the cats are built into the headers. The headers then go into the downpipes.

[@scottc78]

@@VancityAudi a couple NA V8s like a '13 Mustang GT, a majority have been turbo. Supercharged is the only one I haven't owned. But the exhaust on a SC and NA car should be the same for the most part. Calling them downpipes seems like a "branding" decision to me.

[@VancityAudi]

@@scottc78 Well the pipes that connect to the motor are called headers. What would you call them then? haha

[@jpstone9105]

Awsome video's man! Want to see how much more power you gain with dual pulley or if you go with bigger throttle body mod. Btw, was those down pipes strait or did they have like 200cel cats on them? From Tuner from Finland, out.

[@VancityAudi]

Here is the link to the downpipes: performancebyie.com/products/ie-downpipes-audi-s4-s5-b8

[@jpstone9105]

Just gone trough the previous posts and noticed that those down pipes had no cats 🤣. Well anyway, just fitted these to my S4B8 www.luisusgarage.com/p/audi-a4-s4-a5-s5-quattro-3-0-tfsi-354ps-v6-katalysaattorilla/

[@VancityAudi]

The stock downpipes don't have cats either.

[@internalcombustion8744]

Should’ve just put the stock intake back on rerun it then put the cold air intake back on both with downpipes

[@VancityAudi]

Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Perhaps you can put in the time, effort and money to go shoot the same video and show me how it really should have been done. Ever heard of the expression "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"? Apparently not.

[@internalcombustion8744]

@@VancityAudi it wasn’t not not nice , I’m js it was a big waste of time watching most of the video just to find out it was a complete waste of time. Downpipes give a lot of power gains and could’ve literally just gotten the power gain from them and who knows what the air box actually did performance wise

[@VancityAudi]

@@internalcombustion8744 lmao. I can always tell when people have no idea what they're talking about through the comments they make. Downpipes make very, VERY little power on this platform. They are simply removing a resonator. Try again.

[@WolfgangsLowVolt]

Do you have the A6 HX since the S6 has a normal intercooler in front? just curious because i'm interested in running the larger HX on my B8.5 S4.

[@VancityAudi]

I say right in the video what kind of heat exchanger I have, lol. I also made a video on the install: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bmHNn5-ng8arbLM

[@Plushka199]

Adam, could you make comparison in different rims? 17 inch versus 18 or 19. dyno or dragy

[@VancityAudi]

You would need the same wheels and the same tires in 2 different sizes to make that comparison accurate. Sadly I don't have that so I probably won't be doing that comparison. It wouldn't be very accurate

[@Plushka199]

@@VancityAudi maybe just winter 17 vs 18 summer on dragy? Gays tell me if change my 19 inch on 18 I’ll be faster. is it true?

[@CPMUNSEY]

Anytime you have less rotational mass the car is gonna be faster.

[@VancityAudi]

@@Plushka199 100% true, just like Chris mentions above... Rotational mass plays a MASSIVE role in going quickly in the 1/4 mile. If you run lighter 18's with lighter tires you will more than likely go faster than on your 19's

[@One_Guy]

8:30 seems about right doesn't really surprise me that you didn't gain anything. Proves the stock airbox is flowing enough air and then some for stock cars. will probably smooth out with some driving. more supporting mods are needed to require more air to come in :)

[@VancityAudi]

As I CLEARLY explained in this video, lol. It wasn't right at 8:30. The powerband was f$cked up because my bypass valve was opening so much because I was hitting target boost. The stock airbox flows well I'm sure, but this intake provides much better flow and power.

[@One_Guy]

@@VancityAudi the gains you showed in the latter part of the video were more to do wtih your downpipes and removing restrictions on the exhaust side. VAG does a great job at sizing their intakes and as you CLEARLY explained these intakes are more for sound and cosmetics than power gains until you get more serious about upgrades (stage 2 and higher).

[@VancityAudi]

@@One_Guy actually I said the downpipes were more for sound, not the intake. The dip in power was from the bypass valve opening. If that wouldn't have happened the 1st graph would have looked fine and I picked up 16whp from an intake. So like I said the intake flows better and makes more power than the OEM system. Hard to deny actual proof and facts that I am testing and showing you all. To continue to say that the OEM system makes as much power as this intake is just ignorant.

[@jayboom10]

@@VancityAudi I'm going to check and see if there is an updated stg1 tune. I'm same set up minus the heatX. I think you can give at least 4 of those horses to the downpipes. Those mid mufflers were just as restrictive letting air out as the stock intake was letting air in.

[@VancityAudi]

@@jayboom10 don't waste your time. There is no updated file available to the public yet. IE will be making some more changes off of my logs as I continue to make more power and then the updates will be released. I'm sure the downpipes helped a bit for the final run. They don't have mufflers on them though, haha, they are resonators.

[@Sean-dv9eh]

Thinking about doing the intake on my Audi b8.5 S5.. I'm out here in California what are you guys do for smog testing do you take it off?

[@VancityAudi]

We don't have smog testing up here in BC, Canada

[@alexcortez4768]

get CARB certified intake

[@gilbertmartinez8315]

Asking a newbie question: I want to do both the stage 1 tune and exhaust, should I do them both at the same time or, if I do the tune 1st then the exhaust would I have to retune the car?

[@VancityAudi]

We're all a newbie at some point so don't worry about it. Once you've tuned your car to Stage 1 you won't ever have to re-tune it to Stage 1 unless you want to change the octane of the tune you run. What happened to me with having to get a revised version of the tune was a very, very, very unlikely occurrence and only happened because of the amazing conditions I live in to make power.

[@graemepaterson9436]

@@VancityAudi hi, really enjoying these and your recent SQ5 vids, I live pretty local (Kelowna) and wondered how someone would know if they also need to update the tune?

[@VancityAudi]

@@graemepaterson9436 you'd need to do a 3rd or 4th gear pull and log the car. That will show you what your car is actually doing under full load at WOT

[@BG-bd5ye]

I have an S4 B8 as well. I've gone Malone tuning with CTS 187/57 pulleys, PLM intercooler, MH test pipes, cold air intake, CTS resonator back exhaust and Southbend clutch. Hopefully soon I'll be doing the full exhaust along with a ported, polished SC. I'm from Alberta and if this covid crap ever eff's off, it'd be sweet to head out your way. Is that your in house dyno you're using? How much to do a pull or two on that dyno? I'd like to see what numbers I'd have.

[@VancityAudi]

We start private track rentals at Mission Raceway in April. You're more than welcome to join us. As I mention in the video a few times this is Racing Greed's dyno. Feel free to email them or call them for their dyno rates. www.racinggreed.com

[@nathangerzen3727]

That clean mountain air😉

[@adrenalinowner7992]

Very good video from YEG

[@VancityAudi]

Thanks from YVR!

[@NiallJones1986]

Crazy you only had 93 octane!! In the uk even though fuel is crazy expensive we have standard 95 and then we have Vpower by shell which is 99 and a few other companies with 99 octane but its £1.36 per liter not per gallon like you lucky folks in the Usa 🤘

[@VancityAudi]

You might want to look up the difference between the octane ratings in Europe VS North America 😉

[@NiallJones1986]

@@VancityAudi now that's crazy, i was always told the fuel quality in north America was much worse than in the Uk. We have so called "99 RON" but as you say that might be your 93 ? Still much cheaper for you lucky lot lol

[@VancityAudi]

Not sure on the fuel quality statement, but your 99 is equivalent to our 94 in North America. Same sh$t, but the octane value is described differently

[@NiallJones1986]

@@VancityAudi my father worked for our local refinery for years, apparently the additives, quality etc is completely different due to laws and legislation dude

[@curtdragon]

LMAO how long have you had that Passat badge? I'm just now noticing it 🤣

[@VancityAudi]

I just put it on a couple weeks ago. I share details like that and behind the scenes stuff on my IG and FB pages!

[@elihere1242]

@@VancityAudi about to copy you :]

[@VancityAudi]

@@elihere1242 They say that imitation is the greatest form of flattery

[@zerofuckkksgiven8027]

How’s the pumping?

[@VancityAudi]

Sorry?

[@___asd159gh43]

You keep saying previous, are you meaning to say prior?

[@VancityAudi]

Nope. Previous: existing or occurring before in time or order

[@GTRuppsala]

392whp, with dp, catless or 100, 200 cells?

[@VancityAudi]

Lol, helps if you watch the video before you ask questions haha

[@GTRuppsala]

@@VancityAudi can’t always understand your sarcasm..., I had other things to do than ask idiot questions!

[@VancityAudi]

@@GTRuppsala what I meant by my comment was that if you watch the actual video you wouldn't have asked that question. No sarcasm was intended. Haha. The downpipes on S4's don't have cats.

[@GTRuppsala]

@@VancityAudi ok, most of newer cars have cats in downpipes and sometimes also down under the car, I thought s4 also have that, so why did you change the dp? Are the new bigger than stock? How many cats have s4 and were are they?

[@VancityAudi]

@@GTRuppsala I say right in the video why we changed the downpipes. You really should try watching it again, lol. The cats in B8 S4's are on the headers.

[@beamerino]

nice passat

[@VancityAudi]

Thanks

[@gagemangum2457]

Picking my b8.5 across the country this weekend I’m excited

[@93ChayZ]

Better be a 6 speed with a sport diff if you’re going through all that trouble 💀

[@gagemangum2457]

@@93ChayZ hahaha not exactly I wanted a daily, I already have a manual wide body bmw so I wanted something that I could just cruise around town and what not

[@VancityAudi]

@@93ChayZ Only if he wants to go slower, lol. He may enjoy driving it more though, haha

[@gapcityracing6086]

Wheel and tire size?

[@VancityAudi]

www.vancityaudi.com/faqs

[@elvisexplorer]

How many audi do you have?

[@VancityAudi]

Two

[@aaronkowalewski659]

Why does he keep saying it's a v8 supercharged engine? It's a v6 supercharged engine. He said it last video as well when comparing the tunes.

[@VancityAudi]

I'm saying B8, not V8

[@aaronkowalewski659]

@@VancityAudi ooooh lol my bad

[@VancityAudi]

@@aaronkowalewski659 all good. Probably just my Canadian accent 🤣

[@93ChayZ]

Damn that mustang dyno is reading that car SOOOOO LOWWWW 💀

[@VancityAudi]

I can't tell if you're being sincere or sarcastic haha

[@cheanamean]

Passat 😂😂😂

[@lifebidesign]

I like the APR Tune better. Passat LOL!!!

[@VancityAudi]

Why do you say that you like the APR tune better? Have you owned both tunes and done a direct comparison between the 2?

[@internalcombustion8744]

We also don’t need to see it rev to redline 3 times back to back to back … they not exactly exciting engines to hear

[@VancityAudi]

Then don't watch the video

[@internalcombustion8744]

@@VancityAudi was just a comment dude , I don’t think it’s really needed to hear this average af sounding engine rev 3 times from different angles… then to find out the whole video was a waste of time . You do make good videos but this ain’t it sis xoxox still subbed liked and commented to help algarythm anywya

[@VancityAudi]

@@internalcombustion8744 A negative comment adding nothing positive. Just shitting on the video, lol. Constructive criticism is one thing. Just shitting on a video with multiple comments is different. You may not enjoy the sound of the car but many others do. Thanks for subbing and for watching.

[@internalcombustion8744]

That’s so bad dude , video is pointless because of the downpipe install ……..

[@VancityAudi]

I clearly show the gains before the downpipes were installed as well. If you want to get a better number once the downpipes were installed take off 5whp then. Lol. It's not rocket science.

[@internalcombustion8744]

@@VancityAudi dps give way more than 5hp

[@VancityAudi]

@@internalcombustion8744 they absolutely do not. The maximum gains from downpipes with a Stage 2 Dual Pulley E40 tuned B8 are 8 - 12hp at the crank. This is very clearly stated by Integrated Engineering themselves on their website: performancebyie.com/collections/exhaust-systems/products/ie-downpipes-audi-s4-s5-b8 Seeing as my car was utilizing stock pulleys on a Stage 1 93 octane tune 5 wheel horsepower is being generous.